Re: [PD] raspberry pi window position problem

2016-03-25 Thread Samuel Freeman
Thanks again for this helpful thread,

sdf

On 23 March 2016 at 15:33, oliver  wrote:

> IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>
>> On 2016-03-23 10:47, oliver wrote:
>>
>>> for whatever reason, my recently "apt-get installed" puredata was
>>> version 0.43 (how so ?)
>>>
>>
>> Debian/wheezy shipped Pd-0.43-2 Debian/jessie ships Pd-0.46-2
>>
>> so if perchance you are using a Raspbian version that is older than
>> two years, it might come without unsurprise that you see the problems
>> from back then...:-)
>>
>>
> yeah, i already thought so.
>
> it was a customized image to meet the specs of touchscreen i just bought.
> didn't realize that the raspbian version was still wheezy after all
> upgrading.
>
> changed to jessie now.
>
> sorry for the confusion
>
>
>
> cheers
>
> oliver
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Re: [PD] raspberry pi window position problem

2016-03-23 Thread oliver

IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

On 2016-03-23 10:47, oliver wrote:

for whatever reason, my recently "apt-get installed" puredata was
version 0.43 (how so ?)


Debian/wheezy shipped Pd-0.43-2 Debian/jessie ships Pd-0.46-2

so if perchance you are using a Raspbian version that is older than
two years, it might come without unsurprise that you see the problems
from back then...:-)



yeah, i already thought so.

it was a customized image to meet the specs of touchscreen i just 
bought. didn't realize that the raspbian version was still wheezy after 
all upgrading.


changed to jessie now.

sorry for the confusion


cheers

oliver

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Re: [PD] raspberry pi window position problem

2016-03-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-03-23 10:47, oliver wrote:
> for whatever reason, my recently "apt-get installed" puredata was
> version 0.43 (how so ?)

Debian/wheezy shipped Pd-0.43-2
Debian/jessie ships Pd-0.46-2

so if perchance you are using a Raspbian version that is older than two
years, it might come without unsurprise that you see the problems from
back then...:-)

fgamdr
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] raspberry pi window position problem

2016-03-23 Thread katja
On Raspbian Jessie you should get puredata 0.46.2 with apt-get
install. Check what info you get with command 'apt-cache show
puredata'. If it shows another version than 0.46.2, something may be
wrong with your repository settings, which could affect other packages
too.

Katja

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:47 AM, oliver  wrote:
> Julian Brooks wrote:
>>
>> Hey Sam! Great to hear you're lurking:) I think it was our first go's
>> on your Pi when we encountered this.
>>
>> Can I ask what RPi model's this is with and which version of
>> Raspbian?
>>
>> While we can sort hacks for Pd it should presumably be an O.S./W.M.
>> fix.
>>
>> I've never encountered this problem on various debian wheezy installs
>>  but that's with xfce not lxde.
>>
>>
>
>
> hi, small update:
>
> for whatever reason, my recently "apt-get installed" puredata was version
> 0.43 (how so ?)
>
> i manually installed 0.46 and voilà: problem gone !
>
> cheers
>
> oliver
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] raspberry pi window position problem

2016-03-23 Thread oliver

Julian Brooks wrote:

Hey Sam! Great to hear you're lurking:) I think it was our first go's
on your Pi when we encountered this.

Can I ask what RPi model's this is with and which version of
Raspbian?

While we can sort hacks for Pd it should presumably be an O.S./W.M.
fix.

I've never encountered this problem on various debian wheezy installs
 but that's with xfce not lxde.





hi, small update:

for whatever reason, my recently "apt-get installed" puredata was 
version 0.43 (how so ?)


i manually installed 0.46 and voilà: problem gone !

cheers

oliver



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Re: [PD] raspberry pi window position problem

2016-03-23 Thread Julian Brooks
Hey Sam! Great to hear you're lurking:)
I think it was our first go's on your Pi when we encountered this.

Can I ask what RPi model's this is with and which version of Raspbian?

While we can sort hacks for Pd it should presumably be an O.S./W.M. fix.

I've never encountered this problem on various debian wheezy installs but
that's with xfce not lxde.


On 22 March 2016 at 22:15, Samuel Freeman  wrote:

> Hello all (long time lurking here),
>
>  When I came across this problem in 2012, a hack similar to the
> linked pdtk_canvas.tcl solution fixed things.
>
> I encountered the same problem with a fresh install more recently, and was
> loathed to go digging for the solution - I gave up too easily and went
> playing with sonic pi instead! So I am happy to see this thread which
> reignites plans for touch screen musicking!
>
> Here's what I am here to add:
>
> When changing the Raspbian configure.txt make sure to look through the
> whole file to check for multiple instances of the disable_overscan line.
>
> Hope that helps someone
>
> sdf
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 22 March 2016, Julian Brooks  wrote:
>
>> Correction sorry:
>>
>> "Also, if you have a qwerty keyboard attached you can make use of the
>> option key & pointer to pull the window around."
>>
>> That of course should be alt-click not option-click
>>
>> Ingo's fix makes more sense anyway (without firing up the rpi and
>> checking)
>>
>> On 22 March 2016 at 15:24, Ingo  wrote:
>>
>>> It could be a overscan problem.
>>> In Raspbian there is a config.txt file in boot.
>>>
>>> #overscan_left=24
>>> #overscan_right=24
>>> #overscan_top=16
>>> #overscan_bottom=16
>>> disable_overscan=1
>>>
>>> Try "disable_overscan=0" or change the border values to what gives you a
>>> full screen without going over.
>>>
>>> Ingo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i am experiencing a strange problem with a freshly apt-get installed PD
>>> on a
>>> new Raspberry PI.
>>>
>>> whenever i am opening a new patch, the window appears with its menubar
>>> above
>>> the vertical 0 position, meaning i can't touch the window and drag it to
>>> a
>>> usable position. the only (extremely annoying) workaround is to
>>> right-click
>>> the window and "move" the window to a central position every time i open
>>> a
>>> new patch.
>>>
>>> i never experinced this beheaviour before, did anybody here ?
>>>
>>> I get the same on Debian Wheezy amd64 running LXDE but not on Ubuntu or
>>> WIndows, so I think it has to do with the window manager.
>>> Martin
>>>
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Re: [PD] raspberry pi window position problem

2016-03-22 Thread Julian Brooks
Correction sorry:

"Also, if you have a qwerty keyboard attached you can make use of the
option key & pointer to pull the window around."

That of course should be alt-click not option-click

Ingo's fix makes more sense anyway (without firing up the rpi and checking)

On 22 March 2016 at 15:24, Ingo  wrote:

> It could be a overscan problem.
> In Raspbian there is a config.txt file in boot.
>
> #overscan_left=24
> #overscan_right=24
> #overscan_top=16
> #overscan_bottom=16
> disable_overscan=1
>
> Try "disable_overscan=0" or change the border values to what gives you a
> full screen without going over.
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> i am experiencing a strange problem with a freshly apt-get installed PD on
> a
> new Raspberry PI.
>
> whenever i am opening a new patch, the window appears with its menubar
> above
> the vertical 0 position, meaning i can't touch the window and drag it to a
> usable position. the only (extremely annoying) workaround is to right-click
> the window and "move" the window to a central position every time i open a
> new patch.
>
> i never experinced this beheaviour before, did anybody here ?
>
> I get the same on Debian Wheezy amd64 running LXDE but not on Ubuntu or
> WIndows, so I think it has to do with the window manager.
> Martin
>
>
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Re: [PD] raspberry pi window position problem

2016-03-22 Thread Ingo
It could be a overscan problem.
In Raspbian there is a config.txt file in boot.

#overscan_left=24
#overscan_right=24
#overscan_top=16
#overscan_bottom=16
disable_overscan=1

Try "disable_overscan=0" or change the border values to what gives you a
full screen without going over.

Ingo



i am experiencing a strange problem with a freshly apt-get installed PD on a
new Raspberry PI.

whenever i am opening a new patch, the window appears with its menubar above
the vertical 0 position, meaning i can't touch the window and drag it to a
usable position. the only (extremely annoying) workaround is to right-click
the window and "move" the window to a central position every time i open a
new patch.

i never experinced this beheaviour before, did anybody here ?
 
I get the same on Debian Wheezy amd64 running LXDE but not on Ubuntu or
WIndows, so I think it has to do with the window manager.
Martin


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Re: [PD] raspberry pi window position problem

2016-03-22 Thread Julian Brooks
Hello,

This is an old (2012) problem - weird that it's reappeared?

Anyhow - fix (I think) in here:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.puredata.general/90949

Also, if you have a qwerty keyboard attached you can make use of the option
key & pointer to pull the window around.

Regards,

Julian



On 22 March 2016 at 14:52, Martin Peach  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:56 AM, oliver  wrote:
>
>> hi, dear list !
>>
>> i am experiencing a strange problem with a freshly apt-get installed PD
>> on a new Raspberry PI.
>>
>> whenever i am opening a new patch, the window appears with its menubar
>> above the vertical 0 position, meaning i can't touch the window and drag it
>> to a usable position. the only (extremely annoying) workaround is to
>> right-click the window and "move" the window to a central position every
>> time i open a new patch.
>>
>> i never experinced this beheaviour before, did anybody here ?
>>
>>
> I get the same on Debian Wheezy amd64 running LXDE but not on Ubuntu or
> WIndows, so I think it has to do with the window manager.
>
> Martin
>
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Re: [PD] raspberry pi window position problem

2016-03-22 Thread Martin Peach
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:56 AM, oliver  wrote:

> hi, dear list !
>
> i am experiencing a strange problem with a freshly apt-get installed PD on
> a new Raspberry PI.
>
> whenever i am opening a new patch, the window appears with its menubar
> above the vertical 0 position, meaning i can't touch the window and drag it
> to a usable position. the only (extremely annoying) workaround is to
> right-click the window and "move" the window to a central position every
> time i open a new patch.
>
> i never experinced this beheaviour before, did anybody here ?
>
>
I get the same on Debian Wheezy amd64 running LXDE but not on Ubuntu or
WIndows, so I think it has to do with the window manager.

Martin
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