Re: Fungus sanity check please . . .
Hi Gang! I live in Arecibo, Puerto Rico, my home is 2 miles from the sea shore. This is how I decided to get rid of the fungii problem I had a couple years ago with a 50mm lens, that went to Pentax heaven. The humidity here ( been an island) is a constant from 75 % to 100% RH. As David wrote, I do not leave my cameras, or lenses in any camera bag. All my bags are left open and empty when not in use. Where do I store my photographic gear when not in use? I bought a dessicator cabinet from Fisher Scientific (www.fisherscientific.com). I tried to find a used one with no luck. This one is a basic, more economical I could find with the capacity I wanted. It measures about 45.5cm High, 34.5cm Wide and 34.5cm Deep. It is made in lexan and has a door seal. I paid around $330 including shipping. You can argue that it is expensive but, hey!, I have more than 4 grand in lenses and cameras. I was able to fit all my lenses including a 400mm AF -F5.6 SD Tokina lens, an FA F2.8 100mm, an FA* F1.4 85mm, all my other lenses ( total of 22 lenses 5 of them for mid format cameras I have). Also inside the cabinet are my 4 Pentax bodies, when not in use. The cabinet has 2 trays and the bottom area. It comes with a tray for indicating silica gel, which I ( I am a chemist) got from labs I visit. I use the microwave oven to regenerate the silica. I am going to buy new fresh silica from Fisher also. My plans is to buy another cabinet for my 2 medium format bodies, I can not afford to loose any of the equipment due to fungus or ( if you have never seen this, I have!) fungus eating bugs!. I had this into the prism area of my now dead Pentax ME Super some years ago.The humidity inside the chamber is kept at 35 to 40 % RH as measured with a small digital RH meter I bought in Wind and Weather for 25 bucks (www.windandweather.com) which is inside the cabinet. If any of you need details just let me know. Angel David Chang-Sang wrote: Hi Stan, First let me say that I use your site ALL the time as a reference when I'm looking for used Pentax lenses on Ebay or other places. It's a god send.. thank you. Now.. your fungus problem. All I could find on the web that seemed to sort of validate your point was the following: http://www.biotech.ufl.edu/EM/data/lenseatingfungi.html which is a biotech/biomed account of some instances amongst some collegues at university of florida http://www.chem.helsinki.fi/~toomas/photo/fungus/ an interesting page on lens fungus with images and a particularly interesting statement that may help you in your arguement: If you use your equipment in damp environments, let it dry as soon as you return into a drier room. Never leave your equipment in a closed (splashproof) camera bag when it need not be there. Leather lens cases are known to be especially bad, because leather is a natural product where fungi can grow before they proceed on to the lens The mere fact that the fungus can transfer from a leather lens case to a lens may suggest it's ability to move/transfer from lens to lens should lenses be stored together. Most of the pages/sites I spotted are good at explaining why fungus grows and how to stop it but not one of them actually stated that it does actually spread from lens to lens. Hope this helps. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:12 PM To: PDML Subject: Fungus sanity check please . . . I recently bought a used lens on eBay. It arrived with slightly smeared glass. I cleaned the lens, front and back, and looked through and saw little squiggly lines 1mm or so in length a few places around the edge of the front element. Cleaned the front some more to be sure, and confirmed that the little squiggly fuzzy lines are on the back side of the front element. Fungus I said. Actually what I said first was something else that rhymes with hoover. As Wendy would say. So I email the seller and tell him I don't want fungus. Fine, he says, send it back. I could clean it, I says, but I could not be sure of sanitizing it, and I don't want the fungus to spread to my other lenses. How about a professional cleaning? The seller is willing to have me get an estimate for a professional CLA of the lens. But he is also ridiculing the notion that a lens which is all fungused up is in any way a danger to other lenses. Like, how would the fungus get out to 'infect' the other lenses!?!? Tell me I am not crazy! Tell me I am not repeating a myth, that fungus is contagious and destructive. Even better, give me the URL of an authoritative source on this topic. Thanks. Stan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net
Anyone know what this is?
Hey gang Here's an intersting piece of metal and glass that says Honeywell Repronar on it. What in the world is it, and what does it do? It kinda looks like a pinhole SLR to me, but the hole is way too big . . . http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1339276414 Oh, and it's not my auction, Illinois Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anyone know what this is?
Part of an old slide duplicating system isn't it? Sometimes you see them for sale on a copy stand kind of thing. This one appears separated from the stand/bellows/lens. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey gang Here's an intersting piece of metal and glass that says Honeywell Repronar on it. What in the world is it, and what does it do? It kinda looks like a pinhole SLR to me, but the hole is way too big . . . http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1339276414 Oh, and it's not my auction, Illinois Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
Hey, Paul, you feel like a chump for buying your computer. In two years you could get one twice as good for half the money. Of course if you hadn't bought it you would not be on this list. Do your friends feel like chumps eveytime they look at the pics they shot with that now obsolete camera? This is my kid's second birthday party, but I was a real using this expensive digital camea I took it with. This is my wife on the way to the hospital to have Jimmy, but I was a real chump to take it with that now junk digicam. If they feel that way, I feel sorry for them. However, if they bought it to impress guys like you, they were real chumps, I admit that. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Paul F. Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: RE: Pentax digital SLR - Not now! In fact, as films improve, our results get better and better. Meanwhile, everyone I know whose digicam is more than two years old feels like a chump. JCO wrote: Best thing about them oldies is they aren't obsolete (yet) even after 40 years. I don't think we'll be able to say that about ANY digital SLR for a long time if ever. Can you imagine where digital cameras will be in 10 years from now let alone forty? Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Rikenon 50 comments (was: Re: Rikenon 50/1.4?)
Mark Cassino wrote: I could swear I read somewhere that the Rikenon 50mm f2.0 was the sharpest lens ever made for 35mm slrs - but for the life of me I have not been able to locate where I read that. Mark, First of all, how did you expose the statue shot at http://pug.komkon.org/01mar/rospug.html? Now, on the Rikenon lenses. There is no contradiction in your description of the Rikenon 50/1.4's edge sharpness. It's quite possible for a lens to have bite (contrast) without having ultrahigh resolution (detail). I often touch up my digital scans by sharpening, but all it does is to enhance the edge sharpness, and hence perceived contrast. A Google search for Rikenon 50 turned up these superlatives about the Rikenon 50/1.4, 50/2, and 50/2.8. I think I'll hold on to the XR Rikenon 50/2 that just arrived with my XR-P: On the XR Rikenon 50/1.4: From http://www.photographyreview.com/35mm+Primes/Contax+Planar+T*+50mm+f1.4/PRD_83431_3111crx.aspx Reviewed by: Ken, Expert, from Hong Kong; Photography Experience: 11-20 years, People Summary: Test report of all manual focus 50/1.4 from a UK photographic magazine which published 10 years ago has revealed that this carl zeiss 50/1.4 is NOT the best. It is placed on the second. The real winner is the new Rikenon Program 50/1.4 by RICOH. Surprise? If you can find a Rikenon P 50/1.4 and take photo at aperture from f1.4 to f4, you will see how superb the Rikenon can perform at such wide aperture. Please don't mix up with Ricoh 55/1.2, as 55/1.2 is rubbish. Strengths: Second best manual focus 50/1.4 On the Rikenon 50/2, in a Leica 50 review at http://www.photographyreview.com/PRD_83459_3111crx.aspx Reviewed by: Louis Lam, Intermediate, from HONG KONG, GUANG DONG CHINA Photography Experience: 11-20 years, Landscapes Summary: With such a high price tag ( as expected in Leica's products ), one can almost buy TWO 50mm/1.2 lens for the SLR. However, the image quality is unique among other manufracturers' offers with the very very exception of the RICOH Rikenon 50/2 P lens. Strengths: Best lens that I have ever owned for 50mm range. Weaknesses: Too much over priced for such a focal length and such aperture. Similar Products Used: Nikkor 50/1.4 AIS, MC Rokkor 50/1.4 PG, Prakticar PB 50/1.4, Rikenon 50/2 P, Seagull 50/1.8, Nikkor 50/1.8 AIS, Zeiss 50 Weaknesses: Slightly weak at f/1.4 and f/2 while Ricoh Rikenon have done a much better job in this aspect. Similar Products Used: Ricoh Rikenon P 50/1.4 Minolta MD 50/1.4 Prakticar Zeiss Jena 50/1.4 Canon FD 50/1.4 Minolta AF 50/1.4 On the Rikenon 50/2.8 (a macro?): Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/12/02 by Robert Appleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ...a test which clearly shows another product superior to the Leica equivalent. His detailed review of the the Ricoh 50/2.8 certainly point to that lens's superiority to the Elmar: Its optimum performance at f/2,8 is simply better than the Elmar-M 2.8/50 and even at its worst setting would kill the older version of the Elmar. Having shared this, I must now confess that I've just reviewed a 1991 Amateur Photographer comparision of 50s from all the camera makers and a few third-parties. The Rikenon 1.7 and 2.0 were included, and the only brand to fare worse at f/2.8 on a low-contrast target was Seagull. Performance of both lenses with high-contrast targets was respectable. I also have the magazine's 1984 review of the XR-P and XR Rikenon 50/1.7. There, it rated the lens Very Good across the board--in overall performance, corner definition, edge definition, image contrast, and optical balance. Best centrol, edge, and overall definition were found at f/5.6. Now if only Rikenon lenses included click-stops at half-apertures. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fungus sanity check please . . .
I like it. Thanks for sharing. Otis Wright Angel Ramos wrote: Hi Gang! I live in Arecibo, Puerto Rico, my home is 2 miles from the sea shore. This is how I decided to get rid of the fungii problem I had a couple years ago with a 50mm lens, that went to Pentax heaven. The humidity here ( been an island) is a constant from 75 % to 100% RH. As David wrote, I do not leave my cameras, or lenses in any camera bag. All my bags are left open and empty when not in use. Where do I store my photographic gear when not in use? I bought a dessicator cabinet from Fisher Scientific (www.fisherscientific.com). I tried to find a used one with no luck. This one is a basic, more economical I could find with the capacity I wanted. It measures about 45.5cm High, 34.5cm Wide and 34.5cm Deep. It is made in lexan and has a door seal. I paid around $330 including shipping. You can argue that it is expensive but, hey!, I have more than 4 grand in lenses and cameras. I was able to fit all my lenses including a 400mm AF -F5.6 SD Tokina lens, an FA F2.8 100mm, an FA* F1.4 85mm, all my other lenses ( total of 22 lenses 5 of them for mid format cameras I have). Also inside the cabinet are my 4 Pentax bodies, when not in use. The cabinet has 2 trays and the bottom area. It comes with a tray for indicating silica gel, which I ( I am a chemist) got from labs I visit. I use the microwave oven to regenerate the silica. I am going to buy new fresh silica from Fisher also. My plans is to buy another cabinet for my 2 medium format bodies, I can not afford to loose any of the equipment due to fungus or ( if you have never seen this, I have!) fungus eating bugs!. I had this into the prism area of my now dead Pentax ME Super some years ago.The humidity inside the chamber is kept at 35 to 40 % RH as measured with a small digital RH meter I bought in Wind and Weather for 25 bucks (www.windandweather.com) which is inside the cabinet. If any of you need details just let me know. Angel David Chang-Sang wrote: Hi Stan, First let me say that I use your site ALL the time as a reference when I'm looking for used Pentax lenses on Ebay or other places. It's a god send.. thank you. Now.. your fungus problem. All I could find on the web that seemed to sort of validate your point was the following: http://www.biotech.ufl.edu/EM/data/lenseatingfungi.html which is a biotech/biomed account of some instances amongst some collegues at university of florida http://www.chem.helsinki.fi/~toomas/photo/fungus/ an interesting page on lens fungus with images and a particularly interesting statement that may help you in your arguement: If you use your equipment in damp environments, let it dry as soon as you return into a drier room. Never leave your equipment in a closed (splashproof) camera bag when it need not be there. Leather lens cases are known to be especially bad, because leather is a natural product where fungi can grow before they proceed on to the lens The mere fact that the fungus can transfer from a leather lens case to a lens may suggest it's ability to move/transfer from lens to lens should lenses be stored together. Most of the pages/sites I spotted are good at explaining why fungus grows and how to stop it but not one of them actually stated that it does actually spread from lens to lens. Hope this helps. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:12 PM To: PDML Subject: Fungus sanity check please . . . I recently bought a used lens on eBay. It arrived with slightly smeared glass. I cleaned the lens, front and back, and looked through and saw little squiggly lines 1mm or so in length a few places around the edge of the front element. Cleaned the front some more to be sure, and confirmed that the little squiggly fuzzy lines are on the back side of the front element. Fungus I said. Actually what I said first was something else that rhymes with hoover. As Wendy would say. So I email the seller and tell him I don't want fungus. Fine, he says, send it back. I could clean it, I says, but I could not be sure of sanitizing it, and I don't want the fungus to spread to my other lenses. How about a professional cleaning? The seller is willing to have me get an estimate for a professional CLA of the lens. But he is also ridiculing the notion that a lens which is all fungused up is in any way a danger to other lenses. Like, how would the fungus get out to 'infect' the other lenses!?!? Tell me I am not crazy! Tell me I am not repeating a myth, that fungus is contagious and destructive. Even better, give me the URL of an authoritative source on this topic. Thanks. Stan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to
RE: A few questions....
1. Am I being unrealistic, in hoping that Pentax might produce a digital body, that I can use my 35mm lenses with? Has any manufacturer done this? Yes you are being unrealistic. Pentax would rather commit suicide than commit to potential customers. Nikon and Canon are both producing digital SLR's and are selling them as fast as they can crank them out. I suspected that was the answer - a great shame - probably lots of sales in it, but Pentax don't push their products too well. 2. I need to replace my el-cheapo tripod. Bearing in mind I used it with a 500mm lens quite often and will use it in the future with a 67II I want quite a sturdy beast. I don't want to pay much more than £100, but I don't care if it is heavy! How my current flimsy effort lasted so long is a mystery! Monfrotto offers pretty good bang for the buck. The 028/029 leg/ head combination is very sturdy, and quite tall. It might be a bit more expensive than £100 though. A tripod is a bad place to econimize. OK, maybe I need to stretch my budget there. I have sailed close to the wind for too long, and the potential cost of equipment being damaged + emotional upset is best not to compromise on. 3. I know of a charity auction coming up, where one of the boxes of bits contain camera bits and bobs. I can't view them - it is all unseen - a real lucky dip and I will bid on the basis that it is money to charity. Does anyone have any strong objections to me posting any non-Pentax items (?) here at cost + postage (assuming any of it is worth passing on) - I only use Pentax. Objections are irrelevant. The worst case is someone will get uppity, and we will have more bandwidth wasted by the objectors than the original post. It is considered better form to post the list to a web page, and inform the list about the URL. That way, anyone interested can go look, and those who aren't don't have to bother. Well, in part thanks to Greywolf, I'm going to start on a website, so fair enough. Thanks for your comments, I just want to pass items on which other PDMLers might use - not a money issue (which you never suggested) I'll pass it on, on cost + postage. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A few questions....
Hi Dave, Thanks for your comments. I am starting to find out about digital photography, because it is going to be the major player (one day). So other manufacturers have offered a body which supports their lenses, hmm... a bit short sighted of Pentax. For tripods the name Manfrotto comes up a lot - I will check that out, great. If my website plans don't develop (no pun intended) as quickly as I would like, I will post an OT comment in front of the subject, and folk can delete if they wish, without reading it. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
Think back about how many times you've heard someone here on the PDML express a wish for a new model Pentax. Well, at least we won't have to wait years for a new flagship digital camera. The whole key to buying digital cameras is to get one that fits your needs and keep it until it doesn't fit your needs anymore. There is absolutely no necessity to constantly upgrade, if doing so does not fit your budget. If you have really deep pockets, then you'll have a lot of fun getting all of the latest gear just as fast as it comes out. You certainly aren't going to stop technology from changing, so you might just as well plot your best course through the changes and enjoy the times. As digital cameras get better and better, film is going to get scarcer and more expensive. Len --- I collect rare photographs... I have two... One of Houdini locking his keys in his car... the other is a rare picture of Norman Rockwell beating up a child. - S.W. - Original Message - From: Paul F. Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Pentax digital SLR - Not now! In fact, as films improve, our results get better and better. Meanwhile, everyone I know whose digicam is more than two years old feels like a chump. JCO wrote: Best thing about them oldies is they aren't obsolete (yet) even after 40 years. I don't think we'll be able to say that about ANY digital SLR for a long time if ever. Can you imagine where digital cameras will be in 10 years from now let alone forty? Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff
Dave, Please finish your sentence. You like it to what? Len --- - Original Message - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff Tongue was in cheek Jeff,I like it to. Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A few questions....
I think Pentax will demo a DSLR by the end of the year. Obviously they intend to do so, as shown by the demo of the MZ-D and the press release announcing it's withdrawal. I'd look for a 3 or 4 meg SLR at Photokina. BTW, I need one. I've seen decent 8x10's and passable 11x14's from the D30. I think the next generation will have the resolution, and the generation after that will have the sensitivity that I'm looking for. Lately I've had some none-wedding jobs where digital would be perfect, and I suspect at some point I'll have to take a close look at digital for weddings and portraits. I'm not at the point where I *have* to do it for weddings...but I suspect that day is coming. Thanks, some really interesting points being made. I hope I can grasp this new technology! Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
In a message dated 23-Mar-02 8:53:16 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: half agree with this. Based on the number of pros who have switched over to DSLRs, for things other than news, and their comments, the current DSLR's image quality is adequate for 99% of their work. This pertains to the true DSLRs and not high end consumer digi cams. I fully concur that there aren't enough amateurs out there willing to buy into DSLRs for it to be profitable for Pentax and Minolta. Most unfortunate -- as I really want one. I use a Fuji 6900 for my digital purposes, and it's very nice, but I'd love to have the extra lens speed available that's in certain of my Pentax lenses. ERNR My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF500FTZ and MZ-3
Bernd, The the Z-1p coupled with any FTZ flash can do that. You just set the flash fill compensation on the body to -1EV and that's it. The MZ-S with the AF360FGZ can do the same thing. No other bodies I know of will do it automatically. You have to do some manual work yourself. If you want to do lots of compensated flash fill, then the Z-1p is the body for you. Bruce Dayton Friday, March 22, 2002, 11:53:20 PM, you wrote: HBB Is the AF500FTZ flash together with a MZ-3 or Z-1 capable of TTL flash HBB together with ambient light measuring and the flash set to -1 stop? E.g. HBB measuring without flash f11 and 1/15 sec, exactly that is used with HBB flash as fill-in but the flash downrated by 1 stop. HBB Regards HBB Bernd HBB - HBB This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, HBB go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to HBB visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A few questions....(re-sent - not seen this end)
1. Am I being unrealistic, in hoping that Pentax might produce a digital body, that I can use my 35mm lenses with? Has any manufacturer done this? Yes you are being unrealistic. Pentax would rather commit suicide than commit to potential customers. Nikon and Canon are both producing digital SLR's and are selling them as fast as they can crank them out. I suspected that was the answer - a great shame - probably lots of sales in it, but Pentax don't push their products too well. 2. I need to replace my el-cheapo tripod. Bearing in mind I used it with a 500mm lens quite often and will use it in the future with a 67II I want quite a sturdy beast. I don't want to pay much more than £100, but I don't care if it is heavy! How my current flimsy effort lasted so long is a mystery! Monfrotto offers pretty good bang for the buck. The 028/029 leg/ head combination is very sturdy, and quite tall. It might be a bit more expensive than £100 though. A tripod is a bad place to econimize. OK, maybe I need to stretch my budget there. I have sailed close to the wind for too long, and the potential cost of equipment being damaged + emotional upset is best not to compromise on. 3. I know of a charity auction coming up, where one of the boxes of bits contain camera bits and bobs. I can't view them - it is all unseen - a real lucky dip and I will bid on the basis that it is money to charity. Does anyone have any strong objections to me posting any non-Pentax items (?) here at cost + postage (assuming any of it is worth passing on) - I only use Pentax. Objections are irrelevant. The worst case is someone will get uppity, and we will have more bandwidth wasted by the objectors than the original post. It is considered better form to post the list to a web page, and inform the list about the URL. That way, anyone interested can go look, and those who aren't don't have to bother. Well, in part thanks to Greywolf, I'm going to start on a website, so fair enough. Thanks for your comments, I just want to pass items on which other PDMLers might use - not a money issue (which you never suggested) I'll pass it on, on cost + postage. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: KX MOT
I had a KX MOT. Also a Spotmatic MD body and the motor. That motor did work on the KX. Jim A. From: Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 12:04:09 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: KX MOT Saturday, March 23, 2002, 1:00:46 AM, vze2vg3x wrote: vvn For those who don't know, MOT means Motor Drive (optional). This vvn is the same drive available on the K2 MOT. Hi Paul, just to clarify, the K2 MOT is in fact K2 DMD, and uses specific Motordrive MD, which is incompatible with anything else (I have the camera but not the motordrive). OTOH, KX MOT should, according to an article on Dario's AOHC pages, work with the ordinary Motordrive II or which one (same on as SP MOT, spotmatics). Check the article for complete compatibility info. BTW, I would think that 100$ is pretty good price for KX MOT if in reasonably good (=working) condition. I got my K2DMD for slightly less. Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rikenon 50/1.4?
I got an XR Rikenon 1:2 50 L and RKN MC Auto Zoom 1:3.5-4.5 f=35-70mm with my Ricoh KR-10, and I like both of them. As an example, I had to go to a wedding the following weekend, and as I had no other K-mount lenses, I used these, and the results were really very good My only problem arose from fitting a filter and hood to the zoom, causing some vignetting at 35mm. James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
E: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
No, this is mostly a feature of Pal. I think that's unfair. Pal is simply reporting what he has seen or heard through his various contacts and reading. It's something that we all might do. I'm not the slightest bit enticed by 67, but if I saw a website, Japanese or otherwise, that mentioned some new and interesting 67 kit being rumoured, I would mention it to the list. There will always be rumours, can't make them vanish. It's up to the reader to interperate the information, and form their own opinions. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A few questions....
1. Am I being unrealistic, in hoping that Pentax might produce a digital body, that I can use my 35mm lenses with? Has any manufacturer done this? Hi Malc, I'll answer the above point to the best of my ability. No. And no. As Pal points out quite frequently, on the news of the demise of the 'high end' MZ-D, Pentax said that they would be developing a less-costlier digital SLR camera that would be compatible with existing K mount lenses. There was no release date given. This is not speculation, this is fact: Pentax announced it. Of course, this doesn't mean that Pentax will ever actually produce a K-mount DSLR, it just means that they intend to. They can change their mind for any reason at any time. I for one, am convinced that they will produce it. Not only am I convinced, I am sure that working models are being road-tested as you read this. I am also convinced that it will be released before Christmas 2002. I won't go into the why's and wherefore's regarding whether it's a good thing or a bad thing. Other's are far better qualified, and have already put their points of view across, better than I could. Like you, I'm just a guy on the list who would buy one, and as such I can only say that I don't care whether or not it's a good thing or a bad thing. I will buy one - within limits. It must not be any more expensive than the competition - I'm guessing Nikon D100 and Canon D60/30 territory. It must not be too far away in 'spec' territory from this competition, either. Personally, if the K mount DSLR turns out to be a 2 MP £1199 job, I'm not interested. 2MP at any price and I'm not interested. 4 MP at £1699 and I'll bite. 4MP at £2299 and I won't. 6 MP at £1999 and I'll bite. 6 MP at £2699 and I won't. I don't think it's unrealistic to hope that Pentax will bring out the successor to the MZ-D at all. In fact I would say that it's not only very realistic, but will happen, and within a few short months. AFAIK, though I may be wring on this, the K mount design is licensed by Pentax, and certainly there is no other manufacturer who has produced a K mount DSLR body for sale publicly. Of course, that doesn't mean they don't exist ;-) If I were Pentax, and working on the MZ-Dn, I certainly wouldn't want Fuji or anyone else stealing my thunder... Thood for fought. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Ricoh Multi-Program SLR w/lens and data back
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1340185736 Talking about Rikenon 50mm f2.0, this Ricoh Multi-Program SLR comes with one. Any ideas about this camera? Currently BIN = $51.50 with 1 day 4+ hours to run. James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A few questions....
Hi Cotty, Thank you for your reply, which is most informative, but baffling at the same time, as no one knows Pentax's future true plan of action. What will happen, is guesswork, until they say, it will be released on...date.. If it happens, I will be a happy person...for a change. The prices you mention are not conducive to my future health! Malcolm P.S. I think you are a subscriber to a weekly photo mag: could I discuss page 13? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!
I appreciate the verve, enthusiasm, and good intentions with which you made that statement but 5 years ago was 1997 and computers were a lot more powerful than you give them credit for being. Unless you have some good, recognized references for a statement like that, you shouldn't make it. Len --- - Original Message - From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR! Remember, today's $300 digital cameras have more memory and processing power than a $3000 PC from 5 years ago! --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: UK PDMLers
Hi Dan, as lovely as she is, and as well informed about art as she is, I must point out that the young girl in question is not my daughter, but the daughter of some friends. Cartoon I once saw: 2 art critics talking, one of them saying I know a lot about Art, but I don't know what I like Don't forget that when Impressionism was new people said the same thing about it that you're saying about the rest of the content of Tate Modern (and presumably the other major modern art museums around the world). You may not like it, but that by itself doesn't mean it's not art. Indeed, it's quite possible to have a work of art that nobody on the planet, living or dead likes, but that wouldn't necessarily disqualify it from being art. The Impressionists almost achieved this, remember, and now they're all over biscuit tins and jigsaws in tourist shops full of teddy bears dressed as policemen and Beefeaters. How long before we see Tracy Emin's work on chocolate boxes? Modern art since the rise of photography, and possibly since before then, has been about breaking definitions of what is or isn't art, so it's almost bound to be unpopular, at least to begin with. Even stuff that looks like poo can still be art. Incidentally, there's some excellent photography in Tate Modern. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Saturday, March 23, 2002, 2:56:23 PM, you wrote: I'm not very artistic myself, but I have visited most of the major art museums in the word. IMHO, except for one room of impressionists, what is in the Tate Modern simply is not art. For the most part, Bob's daughter is correct. Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, everyone's a critic! I like Tate Modern, although if you're really cool these days it's de rigeuer to say you prefer Tate Britain. Last time I went to Tate Modern I was with a friend and her 6-year-old daughter. I asked the little girl what she thought of one of the exhibits. She replied It looks like poo. And it does. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax would rather commit suicide than commit to potential customers (WAS: Re: A few questions....)
William wrote: Yes you are being unrealistic. Pentax would rather commit suicide than commit to potential customers. I don't think so. Having been around on this list since it's beginning I've noticed that Pentax have put out exactly those higher end products most of us asked for. The MZ-S is almost a blueprint of the MZ-1 we wanted: a metal bodied, small MZ-style camera. I can also remember my own and others whining about plasticky AF lenses and that we wanted compact, metal lenses back. JCO even said that the lenses need to have metal focus rings as well in order to make him happy; no rubber. Thats exactly what we got with the Lmited lenses. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
Agreed for the most part. However, there are two issues. 1) Pentax says that they will make a digital slr. 2) The digital slr market isn't here yet. Only 20 000 digital slr's hase been manufactured to date. Regardless of what some people think, the market is at present miniscule. This MIGHT change with the D100 and D60. Or it might not. I do agree that Pentax mainly missed the boat the last ten years or so. However, Minolta who didn't miss the AF bandwagon is in hardly any better position than Pentax. In spite of having the worlds fasterst AF system the pundits don't buy it because the pros don't use it. Unfortunately, in the last 15 years slr's has become fashion/status statements and if you don't have the right name it really doesn't matter what you offer. Branding have been the buzz word the last decade in marketing. I'm worried about Pentax due to Minoltas annoncement of Minolta SSM lenses. Minolta is probably a more dangerous competitor for Pentax than Nikon and Canon. Pål - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now! - Original Message - From: Paul F. Stregevsky Subject: RE: Pentax digital SLR - Not now! In fact, as films improve, our results get better and better. Meanwhile, everyone I know whose digicam is more than two years old feels like a chump. Yes but, they are chumps who have had the benefit of the equipment for two years. Equipment gets better. Thats a fact of life. I am sure there are people who bought into Pentax M-42 cameras in 1973 who felt like chumps in 1975. The same with the Canon chumps who bought into FD cameras in 1985, or Minolta Chumps who bought in 1984. The point is, if Pentax stays out of this market niche long enough, they won't have a market to sell to when/ if they decide to get into it. Look what has happened to them over the past couple of decades for playing this game with the high end market. They turned Ostrich when the modern AF cameras came out, and they started to lose market share in a big way. Pentax used to be the camera of choice for SLR's for the serious photographer. Now they are a has been company that sells point and shoots. They are no longer recognized as being an industry leader by the people who they need to recognize them, which is the buying public. When J. Sixpack goes looking for a film camera now, he is looking at Nikons and Canons. When he goes out to buy a digital, he will be doing the same thing. Soon, it won't matter what Pentax puts on the shelf, it won't sell because no one will care. The worst case scenario is that they won't be able to put anything on dealers shelves because the dealers themselves don't have enough confidence in the brand's recognition to sell to give them shelf space. To an extent, it is already happening. Pentax no longer commands respect from the camera stores in many places. I read that here all the time. As this situation evolves, the company will find itself in deeper doo-doo. Not putting a digital SLR onto the market very soon will be suicide for Pentax. The digital SLR market is here, now, and needs to be responded to. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A few questions....
William wrote: Yes you are being unrealistic. Pentax would rather commit suicide than commit to potential customers. Pentax will make a digital slr and have stated so in press release. Nikon and Canon are both producing digital SLR's and are selling them as fast as they can crank them out. Really? The combined total sales of Nikon and Canon digital slr's to date is less than a year production run of the MZ-S. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Pentax Models
I'll take one of each, and maybe a camera or two! Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Digital SLR
We don't need no stinkin' digital cameras! On a more serious note. I don't know much about digital; however, I'll offer my thoughts on it anyway. Take your pictures with high resolution tried and true film. Have the negatives (or slides) scanned by your processor OR buy the best scanner, computer and printer available NOW, scan the negatives yourself, and you can blow any digital camera currently made out of the water. I believe it would be cheaper than buying any digital SLR currently available. Do folks out there not know this? Digital is a big gotta have it now lie. Changes in digital capability will likely come fast what with Foveon vs. CCD and what not. You will be sitting in the dust in a couple of years resolution-wise as far as digital is concerned if you buy something today. Film is good now and always will be. Am I correct in my thinking and opinions? Robert - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!
The DSLRs that pros are buying aren't close to 7k. The ones based on pro bodies are under 5K. The D60 D100 (based on midline consumer bodies) are around 2k. What I've found interesting is that pro Canon shooters who would never have considered using an Elan 7, have snapped up the D30 (same body) as fast as Canon could make them. --- Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the reason that Pentax cancelled the MZ-D was, among other things, that the high-end professional crowd is just not their market. People who make their livings with their cameras buy _systems_ and invest a lot in lenses. There are many Nikon and Canon system professionals out there, but few Pentax pros (at least in 35mm). Ergo, no established market for a $7000 pro-grade body. Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FONG
Subject: Pentax 6 x 7 System Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:30:53 GMT From: Walter Griebeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format Hi, FOR SALE Pentax 6 x 7 Camera System Body (with mirror lock up) AE Finder Wooden Handgrip 105mm Standard Lens (old style) 135mm Macro Lens (old style) 165mm Telephoto Lens (new style) 45mm Wide Angle Lens (new style) 300mm Telephoto Lens (new style) All Lenses (except) 105mm complete with original Hard Cases Accessories Magnifying Hood Right Angle Viewer Reverse Lens Adapter Helicoid Extension Tube 2 Lens Hoods All Accessories are complete with original Cases Camera, Lenses and Accessories are all in mint condition Other Accessories Manfrotto close-up attachment for macro photography Sunpak Ringlight for Pentax 6 x 7 1 Set of 3 Hoya Close-up filters Assortment of other filters Lunasix Lightmeter with tele (reflective adapter) All the above items will have to be sold together as one lot. Purchaser to pay for shipping. Method of payment: Certified check or Money order Currency: US $ Will throw in with purchase of the above camera system Bonus: Courtney Studio Flash Units (2), 2 tripods, Boom Arm. Numerous reflectors, Soft Box, etc. Mint Condition FYI: Am located in Canada If interested send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Willing to negotiate * Get over it. Dr. Laura --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
You are just plain wrong. Go to http://www.dpreview.com/, poke around until you can find the 2meg - 3meg sample jpg files taken with the DSLRs. Down load them. open them up in a program where you can blow them up to 300 - 400%, and lood at what you see. The images are way better than you can get with any under 2K scanner. If you don't believe your own eyes, go here: http://www.photonews.com/forums/forums.html and see what working pros, who are using digital have to say. There are pros wha have dropped MF film for DSLRs. Just about all the folks saying that digital has a ways to go yet, turn out to be spectators. --- Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't need no stinkin' digital cameras! On a more serious note. I don't know much about digital; however, I'll offer my thoughts on it anyway. Take your pictures with high resolution tried and true film. Have the negatives (or slides) scanned by your processor OR buy the best scanner, computer and printer available NOW, scan the negatives yourself, and you can blow any digital camera currently made out of the water. I believe it would be cheaper than buying any digital SLR currently available. Do folks out there not know this? Digital is a big gotta have it now lie. Changes in digital capability will likely come fast what with Foveon vs. CCD and what not. You will be sitting in the dust in a couple of years resolution-wise as far as digital is concerned if you buy something today. Film is good now and always will be. Am I correct in my thinking and opinions? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
Hi Robert ... You don't know me, but I'm a die-hard, manual-focus, bw negative shootin', process my own film kinda guy. But ya know what? There's still a place for these funky digital cameras in my equipment cabinet. Why? Because they're fast and easy to use, and I can send photos via e-mail or post 'em to my web site and use 'em to sell my goods and services without having to strain myself. And I'm using an old, 640 x 480 resolution, Sony Mavica, which probably has the worst image quality I've seen in a l-o-n-g time. But by fiddling with the crummy images just a bit in a FREE photo editing program (Irfan) the pictures are more than acceptable and help me generate extra $$$ simple and easily. And the pictures help me stay in touch with family and friends easily as well. As for the quality of digital prints, well, I'd have to say that you're a little behind the curve. Granted a lot of PS digital cameras produce mediocre results, as do, IMO, many of the digital SLRs ... but, when moving to larger format, or higher resolution digital capture, the results can be outstanding. I've seen some very large digital photos at several museums and galleries, and while the subject matter was of little interest, the technical quality was superb. But again, that's at the very high end of the scale. Robert Woerner wrote: I don't know much about digital; however, I'll offer my thoughts on it anyway. Take your pictures with high resolution tried and true film. Have the negatives (or slides) scanned by your processor OR buy the best scanner, computer and printer available NOW, scan the negatives yourself, and you can blow any digital camera currently made out of the water. I believe it would be cheaper than buying any digital SLR currently available. Do folks out there not know this? Digital is a big gotta have it now lie. Changes in digital capability will likely come fast what with Foveon vs. CCD and what not. You will be sitting in the dust in a couple of years resolution-wise as far as digital is concerned if you buy something today. Film is good now and always will be. Am I correct in my thinking and opinions? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ricoh Multi-Program SLR w/lens and data back
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1340185736 Talking about Rikenon 50mm f2.0, this Ricoh Multi-Program SLR comes with one. Any ideas about this camera? Currently BIN = $51.50 with 1 day 4+ hours to run. It's the XR-P with optional grip attached. regards, Alan Chan _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!
Len Wrote: I appreciate the verve, enthusiasm, and good intentions with which you made that statement but 5 years ago was 1997 and computers were a lot more powerful than you give them credit for being. Unless you have some good, recognized references for a statement like that, you shouldn't make it. Len A, I love a good challenge! First, a disclaimer: comparing a 1997 Pentium II desktop computer to a digital camera is sort of an apples-to-oranges comparison. The camera won't play Doom, doesn't run a web-browser, and can't balance your checkbook. On the other hand, the 1997 Pentium II can't fit in a pocket, take a picture, then display it on your TV. Also, it's hard to compare desktop memory to digital camera memory because the're used for very different things, and because big flash memories (like 256 MByte CompactFlash cards) didn't even exist in 1997. I was really making two points: o) Sleek little digital cameras hide a deceptively large amount of processing power. o) Moore's law gave us about a 10x increase in processing power over the last 5 years, and will continue to march on (at least for the next few years). Ok, let's at least compare processing power: I bopped over to the SPEC website (www.spec.org) to get the state of the PC art in early 1997. A quick search of the SPEC95 results showed that in April 1997 Intel tested their PD440FX motherboard with Pentium II processors ranging in clock rate from 233 to 300 MHz, all with 64 MBytes of RAM. That's probably a pretty good snapshot of cutting-edge PC's from early 1997. Per the Texas Instruments website, the HP Photosmart 315 (a $300 digital camera using 2001 technology) is equipped with the TI TMS320DSC21 camera processor. The DSC21 has a C5000 fixed-point DSP core, an ARM7 32-bit RISC processor core, and a bunch of other stuff including memory controller, USB controller, etc., all in one chip. TI doesn't have a product bulletin for this processor on their website, but they do have a product bulletin for the TMS320DSC24, a related product. Here it is: http://focus.ti.com/pdfs/vf/vidimg/dsc24_prodbull.pdf The DSC24 bulletin states that the DSP subsystem is a 500 MIPS system, which indicates that the DSC24 chip is clocked somewhere in the hundreds of MHz. I can't find performance numbers for the DSC21, but I'm guessing they're either equal or perhaps 1/2 that of the DSC24. Both TI chips will run Nucleus, VxWorks, or Linux. Based on my experience coding signal processing algorithms for DSP's and general-purpose microprocessors, I'd bet that the DSC24 will perform signal and image processing tasks about as fast or maybe faster than a 300 MHz Pentium II. A lot of the speed issues depend on memory access times and throughput. Typical still camera image processing algorithms include Bayer pattern interpolation, sharpening algorithms, JPEG compression, PAL or NTSC video coding, etc. We can get into a debate about the details, but I think I'm pretty solid in saying that the computational power of the TI still camera DSP's is at least comparable to an early 1997 Pentium II box. --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!
Bruce Wrote: The DSLRs that pros are buying aren't close to 7k. The ones based on pro bodies are under 5K. The D60 D100 (based on midline consumer bodies) are around 2k. What I've found interesting is that pro Canon shooters who would never have considered using an Elan 7, have snapped up the D30 (same body) as fast as Canon could make them. Didn't photojournalists used to buy big, fat Kodak DSLR's based on Nikon and Canon bodies for tens of thousands of dollars? Seems like prices only really dropped when Nikon put out the original D1 a couple of years ago. I got the $7K figure from price rumors related to the never-introduced Pentax full-frame digital SLR. BTW, no fair quoting prices for the Canon D60 and Nikon D100! They aren't even available yet! :-) --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Pentax 1.4X-L Teleconverter
Now that I've sold my Pentax 500/4.5, I don't have a use for my Pentax 1.4X-L teleconverter. Are you interested in buying it for your Tokina? John Mustarde has written that they work great together. I bought it from KEH in January for $245. I see that they're still listing one for $245 and one for $265, so I can't really ask that. But I'd part with it for $215 + $10 insured shipping within USA, $18 to Canada, somewhat more elsewhere. I belong to PayPal and BidPay and can accept credit cards. Paul Franklin Stregevsky 13 Selby Court Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] H (301) 349-5243 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax production numbers?
Pål (and all), Some of the pages on the Pentax Japan website (http://www.pentax.co.jp) show initial production rates for new products in units per month. Is that what you're quoting, or are there other numbers out there (perhaps in Asahi corporate financial reports)? --Mark Pål wrote: William wrote: Yes you are being unrealistic. Pentax would rather commit suicide than commit to potential customers. Pentax will make a digital slr and have stated so in press release. Nikon and Canon are both producing digital SLR's and are selling them as fast as they can crank them out. Really? The combined total sales of Nikon and Canon digital slr's to date is less than a year production run of the MZ-S. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
I wasn't refering to photojournalists. I was refering to commercial, advertizing, editorial, event and wedding photographers. Try looking here: http://www.photonews.com/forums/forums.html rather than perpetuating folk tales. --- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Digital isn't yet up there with 35mm film. I'm sure that day will come. The reason why photo journalists use digital is that it is convenient and because the quality demand in this area of professional photography is close to zero. This fact is quite ironic considering the marketing trade-off assosiated with photo journalist use. Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A few questions....
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: A few questions Malcolm wrote: 2. I need to replace my el-cheapo tripod. Bearing in mind I used it with a 500mm lens quite often and will use it in the future with a 67II I want quite a sturdy beast. I don't want to pay much more than £100, but I don't care if it is heavy! As always I recommend Berlebach tripods. www.berlebach.de Seconded. I have a great love for my wood tripod. They don't ring, they are much stronger, and they are much harder to damage. If you ding the leg of a metal tripod, you can run into some problems with legs that no longer close, or in a worst case scenario, a leg that can fold under a heavy lens/camera system. If you damage a wood tripod leg, you get out the sandpaper and varnish. I keep forgetting about Berlebach tripods. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
- Original Message - From: Robert Woerner Subject: Digital SLR We don't need no stinkin' digital cameras! Hmm Mafud seems to have returned. On a more serious note. I don't know much about digital; however, I'll offer my thoughts on it anyway. Take your pictures with high resolution tried and true film. Have the negatives (or slides) scanned by your processor OR buy the best scanner, computer and printer available NOW, scan the negatives yourself, and you can blow any digital camera currently made out of the water. I believe it would be cheaper than buying any digital SLR currently available. Do folks out there not know this? Digital is a big gotta have it now lie. Changes in digital capability will likely come fast what with Foveon vs. CCD and what not. You will be sitting in the dust in a couple of years resolution-wise as far as digital is concerned if you buy something today. Film is good now and always will be. Am I correct in my thinking and opinions? The point is not whether the buyer of todays technology will be sitting in the dust or not. Were that the point, there would be very few users of Pentax SLR cameras at all. The point is that companies that want to have a place in this market need to get cameras out there now. Not next year, or in a few years. Pentax at least needs a prosumer digital very soon to be taken seriously by the marketplace. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff
6X6 is cool! Rolllei's are the best! steve --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Tamron 300f2.8
I've been watching this auction for a couple of days. somebody sniped me after I had the high bid 30 seconds to go! I hope it was someone on the list. What a bargain! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItemitem=134042814 1 In the end I won this sigma 300/4 APO Macro http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItemitem=134043200 1 Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
Hi, Pal, I'm not sure what your point is. Pentax' older gear satisfies my needs, at a fraction of the price of newer equipment. As long as such high quality used gear is out there, I have no intention of buying new. Is there something wrong with that? Or have I missed your point? It doesn't particularly make me feel good, bad or otherwise. It's just the way it is. regards, frank Pål Jensen wrote: Tom wrote: From this list, it would seem that Pentax need make no more cameras what so ever. All of us only want the old used ones, we seem to think the new ones are junk. I've noticed this strange phenomena too. However, it comes from people who has no intention of buying a new product. I guess it makes them feel good. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now! Hi, Pal, I'm not sure what your point is. Pentax' older gear satisfies my needs, at a fraction of the price of newer equipment. As long as such high quality used gear is out there, I have no intention of buying new. Is there something wrong with that? Or have I missed your point? The point is that Pentax doesn't generate new revenue from those who buy used equipment. There is a catch 22 though. If they don't come out with equipment to entice new purchases, they don't generate revenue to bring new equipment to market. If they don't generate revenue from new equipment sales, they can't afford to bring new equipment to market. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Need help on Portable Lighting Setup
I'm looking to do some friends' (as well as possibly some semi-pro) jobs/portraits in the near future. I would like input from anyone who has a portable lighting system. What type of equipment do you have, how much will it cost me, etc. I'm leaning towards a slave system. I'm not sure if that's the right way to go. I'm just starting my research into this equipment. My current equipment is Pentax Super Program manual focus: 100 mm 2.8 lens 135 mm 2.8 AF200T Vivitar 283 Can I get good results by simply using the Vivitar 283, bounced into an umbrella? I've been thinking about a newer, bigger, better Pentax flash (280, 400, 550, etc.). Would this be a good combo to bounce from the camera? And still use the 283 the AF200T? What about a cheap portable back drop-any recommendations there? What about a flash meter-any suggestions/recommendations for brand, model, price, etc.? Any ideas suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: 150//2.8 for 6x7 Pentax
I'm going to have to part with one of my 6x7 lenses. I picked up the 165/4 leaf shutter, so the SMC Takumar 150/2.8 has become somewhat redundant. It pains me a bit to let this go, since it's quite fast and has produced some very sharp images, but I have to economize a little.It has some bright spots on the focus ring; the glass appears to be perfect to my eye. A normal amount of minor dust can be seen under certain lighting conditions. The lens comes with both original caps and the original metal, rectangular hood. I bought the lens from KEN three months ago. It was rated excellent and priced at $295. I purchased the hood separately for $40. I will sell both for $250. I'll ship free to any location in the US. Shippiung to other countries wil be actual cost minus $10. If you'd like to see a picture I shot with the lens, you'll find one at http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/_uimages/amyl2.jpg This was shot through a net filter. You can see another unfiltered shot at http://www.portfolios.com/zoom.wga?User_number=stenquistimagecount=16 If no one is interested, I'll put the lens up on ebay late tomorrow. Paul Stenquist - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
Isn't the Optios a 3+ megapixel camera? Looks pretty nice from what I've seen. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: Bill, your comments ring ever so true. I'm looking for a digital camera (!) with certain specs and features for a specific long-term project. My first thought was to see what Pentax offered. Just the Optios and a little toy model. So, not only have they lost my business for the camera, but for whatever accessories I may choose to buy as well. And, down the line, should I choose to upgrade, the chances are real good that I wouldn't even consider Pentax, because by that time there may be an investment in another company's digital products. What's even more disappointing is that I'm not looking for a DSLR, but a good prosumer model in the 3MP - 4MP range. The advanced amateur market is one that Pentax does pretty well with their film cameras, but their digital offerings are quite poor wrt features and the number of models offered. So, I'm looking at Canon, Nikon, and Olympus - all companies with a broad range of digital cameras to fit just about every budget and need. As a 35+ year user of Pentax gear, this is very disappointing indeed. Not even having a Pentax to consider is ridiculous. William Robb wrote: The point is, if Pentax stays out of this market niche long enough, they won't have a market to sell to when/ if they decide to get into it. Look what has happened to them over the past couple of decades for playing this game with the high end market. They turned Ostrich when the modern AF cameras came out, and they started to lose market share in a big way. Pentax used to be the camera of choice for SLR's for the serious photographer. Now they are a has been company that sells point and shoots. They are no longer recognized as being an industry leader by the people who they need to recognize them, which is the buying public. When J. Sixpack goes looking for a film camera now, he is looking at Nikons and Canons. When he goes out to buy a digital, he will be doing the same thing. Soon, it won't matter what Pentax puts on the shelf, it won't sell because no one will care. The worst case scenario is that they won't be able to put anything on dealers shelves because the dealers themselves don't have enough confidence in the brand's recognition to sell to give them shelf space. To an extent, it is already happening. Pentax no longer commands respect from the camera stores in many places. I read that here all the time. As this situation evolves, the company will find itself in deeper doo-doo. Not putting a digital SLR onto the market very soon will be suicide for Pentax. The digital SLR market is here, now, and needs to be responded to. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Gotta stay out of camera stores....
It was sunny and in the upper 40s (F) today, so I went out and did some street shooting with the 6x7 and the 55/4. On the way back I stopped at Nathan's Cameras, a shop that some of you know. He sells only used equipment and has quite a variety: a number of Leicas, Hasselblads, and other high end stuff. He also has five or six LX sitting on the shelf. (Mark Cassino bought his LX at Nathans for a rather substantial amount, and, if memory serves me correct, ended up spending a lot more servicing it.) But I digress. I actually went there to see if he had an enlarger part I'd like to have, although I kind of knew he wouldn't. I suppose I really just wanted to handle some nice glass. So after he told me he didn't have the enlarger part, I asked him if he had any Pentax 67 stuff. He said, I have a few things. Such as, said I. Oh, I have a 165/4 leaf shutter lens, he said. Can I see it, said I. So he pulled what appeared to be a new box down from the shelf. I opened it. The lens was still in the plastic bag. All the styrofoam was in place. In other words, it appeared to be new. I don't think it's ever been used, he said. So at this point, I just know I can't afford it. Nathan has a lot of nice stuff, but it's all pretty spendy. $750, I'm thinking. But just for grins, I say, how much. $395. says he. At that point I think my jaw dropped and my eyes glazed over. He says, A no brainer, isn't it? And I nod and pull out my wallet. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
We are all in awe of Bruce and the professional perspective he so generously brings to our list. Paul Robert Woerner wrote: Oh, you're so wonderful. Please tell us all about your first hand experience with digital. Because by being a bystander, and not a participant, you have no first hand knowledge and making a judgement based on conjecture. For an opinion like that, I might as well go ask my cat. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
Yes, the Optio 330 is a 3mp camera, but it doesn't offer the features that I want. For example, one feature that's important is the ability for the camera to take an accessory wide angle lens. The Optio doesn't allow that, so I'm stuck with 37mm at the wide end. There's no TIFF format, and close focusing, or macro mode, doesn't come as close as some other cameras. Yes, it's a pretty good camera in some respects, but that's essentially all Pentax offers - the Optio in three flavors, vanilla, chocolate, and strawberry. Paul Stenquist wrote: Isn't the Optios a 3+ megapixel camera? Looks pretty nice from what I've seen. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
I think it's a mistake to consider that digital SLRs need to affect the 35mm market in order to use that format's lenses in producing one. It's the medium format market they are affecting. Go to any used professional equipment store and you'll see a growing number of RB Blad units, with continually falling prices. It's happening because of Digital. The 35mm market is affected by the PS digitals, and Pentax is already in that market. I wouldn't be at all surprized to see Pentax' initial digital release to be in the medium format arena -- the market that they consider the real professional market. That would be consistent with their last two decades treatment of professional photography. Collin * Get over it. Dr. Laura --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
Two questions. Did the LX result in pros acceptance of Pentax in the marketplace? How many digital SLRs have been produced at this point in time? Robert P.S. Who is Mafud? - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Digital SLR - Original Message - From: Robert Woerner Subject: Digital SLR We don't need no stinkin' digital cameras! Hmm Mafud seems to have returned. On a more serious note. I don't know much about digital; however, I'll offer my thoughts on it anyway. Take your pictures with high resolution tried and true film. Have the negatives (or slides) scanned by your processor OR buy the best scanner, computer and printer available NOW, scan the negatives yourself, and you can blow any digital camera currently made out of the water. I believe it would be cheaper than buying any digital SLR currently available. Do folks out there not know this? Digital is a big gotta have it now lie. Changes in digital capability will likely come fast what with Foveon vs. CCD and what not. You will be sitting in the dust in a couple of years resolution-wise as far as digital is concerned if you buy something today. Film is good now and always will be. Am I correct in my thinking and opinions? The point is not whether the buyer of todays technology will be sitting in the dust or not. Were that the point, there would be very few users of Pentax SLR cameras at all. The point is that companies that want to have a place in this market need to get cameras out there now. Not next year, or in a few years. Pentax at least needs a prosumer digital very soon to be taken seriously by the marketplace. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
Too bad this is a dream, huh? :( http://www.dpreview.com/news/0009/00091402pentaxdigitalslr.asp Robert - Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Digital SLR You are just plain wrong. Go to http://www.dpreview.com/, poke around until you can find the 2meg - 3meg sample jpg files taken with the DSLRs. Down load them. open them up in a program where you can blow them up to 300 - 400%, and lood at what you see. The images are way better than you can get with any under 2K scanner. If you don't believe your own eyes, go here: http://www.photonews.com/forums/forums.html and see what working pros, who are using digital have to say. There are pros wha have dropped MF film for DSLRs. Just about all the folks saying that digital has a ways to go yet, turn out to be spectators. --- Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't need no stinkin' digital cameras! On a more serious note. I don't know much about digital; however, I'll offer my thoughts on it anyway. Take your pictures with high resolution tried and true film. Have the negatives (or slides) scanned by your processor OR buy the best scanner, computer and printer available NOW, scan the negatives yourself, and you can blow any digital camera currently made out of the water. I believe it would be cheaper than buying any digital SLR currently available. Do folks out there not know this? Digital is a big gotta have it now lie. Changes in digital capability will likely come fast what with Foveon vs. CCD and what not. You will be sitting in the dust in a couple of years resolution-wise as far as digital is concerned if you buy something today. Film is good now and always will be. Am I correct in my thinking and opinions? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax production numbers?
For those like myself for whom Japanese is not their forte, you can read a good part of what is on this website by using AltaVista's translation engine located at http://babelfish.altavista.com . - Original Message - From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:19 PM Subject: Pentax production numbers? Pål (and all), Some of the pages on the Pentax Japan website (http://www.pentax.co.jp) show initial production rates for new products in units per month. Is that what you're quoting, or are there other numbers out there (perhaps in Asahi corporate financial reports)? --Mark Pål wrote: William wrote: Yes you are being unrealistic. Pentax would rather commit suicide than commit to potential customers. Pentax will make a digital slr and have stated so in press release. Nikon and Canon are both producing digital SLR's and are selling them as fast as they can crank them out. Really? The combined total sales of Nikon and Canon digital slr's to date is less than a year production run of the MZ-S. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
I gotta go along with your perspective here and I'm pleased to have it. . I haven't paid much attention to the digital world. Although I scan most of m color images and print them digitally. That's as far as I'm going for now. Interestingly enough, many of the photographers who shoot cars for our company use digital setups on 45 bodies that generate files of around 60 megabytes. I generate 250 megabyte files from my 6x7 scans. On a 13 x19 print, the difference shows. The studio guys acknowledge that film is still better, but they also kow that the clients like the immediate turnaround of digital. (If they so choose the agency and client folk can watch the scan take shape on a monitor in the studio. That's where it's at for commrece, but not for art. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: Yes, the Optio 330 is a 3mp camera, but it doesn't offer the features that I want. For example, one feature that's important is the ability for the camera to take an accessory wide angle lens. The Optio doesn't allow that, so I'm stuck with 37mm at the wide end. There's no TIFF format, and close focusing, or macro mode, doesn't come as close as some other cameras. Yes, it's a pretty good camera in some respects, but that's essentially all Pentax offers - the Optio in three flavors, vanilla, chocolate, and strawberry. Paul Stenquist wrote: Isn't the Optios a 3+ megapixel camera? Looks pretty nice from what I've seen. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Need help on Portable Lighting Setup
Well, to start with I would get a peanut slave for the Vivitar, a couple of umbrellas, and light stands. I would set the 200 T in an umbrella up next to the camera and fire it with a sync cord. The Vivitar I would put in the other umbrella and set up about 45 degrees to the side. Considering the relative power I would set both umbrellas about the same distance, say 5 feet from the subject(s). Now you could rush out and buy a flash meter, but what I would do is waste a roll of cheap 100 speed slide film. Take one shot at each f-stop on the lens, keeping notes of which frame was which f-stop. Use the strobes on manual. Get the film processed and examine the slides for the best exposure. Note the f-stop. Multiply it by 5. That is your guide number for this setup. Next check if the lighting ratio is about what you want. Adjust the distance of the key light, the Vivitar, to adjust if necessary. If the lighting is too flat move the key closer, if it is to contrasty move it farther out. I suggest 3.5 feet, or 7 feet as that is a one f-stop adjustment. Now waste another roll of slide film. Pick the best exposure. Multiply by 3.5 or 7 which ever distance you moved your key to. That is your guide number for this setup. Actually since you already know your f-stop within a stop or so I would do both distances on this roll and have the guide numbers for three setups. This will probably have you ready to shoot the family. As you can see what you are doing is experimenting in a controlled manor to find out what the settings you need to use are. You will not only quickly learn them, you also will learn a lot about lighting in a very short time. Read a couple of books on portrait lighting. If your local library don't have any they probably can get them on interlibrary loan for you. Play around with the lights you have until you understand what you are doing. If you get good you might want to invest in a couple of studio strobes, you could continue to use your existing strobe as background and hair lights respectively. Happy shooting. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 8:36 PM Subject: Need help on Portable Lighting Setup I'm looking to do some friends' (as well as possibly some semi-pro) jobs/portraits in the near future. I would like input from anyone who has a portable lighting system. What type of equipment do you have, how much will it cost me, etc. I'm leaning towards a slave system. I'm not sure if that's the right way to go. I'm just starting my research into this equipment. My current equipment is Pentax Super Program manual focus: 100 mm 2.8 lens 135 mm 2.8 AF200T Vivitar 283 Can I get good results by simply using the Vivitar 283, bounced into an umbrella? I've been thinking about a newer, bigger, better Pentax flash (280, 400, 550, etc.). Would this be a good combo to bounce from the camera? And still use the 283 the AF200T? What about a cheap portable back drop-any recommendations there? What about a flash meter-any suggestions/recommendations for brand, model, price, etc.? Any ideas suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
It was supposed to be priced at 7K. For me, it might as well have been vaporware. I think Pentax figured that out. When they can build one for 2k, we will come. They can, and they will Paul Robert Woerner wrote: Too bad this is a dream, huh? :( http://www.dpreview.com/news/0009/00091402pentaxdigitalslr.asp Robert - Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Digital SLR You are just plain wrong. Go to http://www.dpreview.com/, poke around until you can find the 2meg - 3meg sample jpg files taken with the DSLRs. Down load them. open them up in a program where you can blow them up to 300 - 400%, and lood at what you see. The images are way better than you can get with any under 2K scanner. If you don't believe your own eyes, go here: http://www.photonews.com/forums/forums.html and see what working pros, who are using digital have to say. There are pros wha have dropped MF film for DSLRs. Just about all the folks saying that digital has a ways to go yet, turn out to be spectators. --- Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't need no stinkin' digital cameras! On a more serious note. I don't know much about digital; however, I'll offer my thoughts on it anyway. Take your pictures with high resolution tried and true film. Have the negatives (or slides) scanned by your processor OR buy the best scanner, computer and printer available NOW, scan the negatives yourself, and you can blow any digital camera currently made out of the water. I believe it would be cheaper than buying any digital SLR currently available. Do folks out there not know this? Digital is a big gotta have it now lie. Changes in digital capability will likely come fast what with Foveon vs. CCD and what not. You will be sitting in the dust in a couple of years resolution-wise as far as digital is concerned if you buy something today. Film is good now and always will be. Am I correct in my thinking and opinions? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
Vaporware. A non-working mock up. Did they actually make some that worked? Who knows? All we know for sure is they said they are not going to market it. Now they say they will bring out a plain jane stripped down model. Me? I wouldn't hold my breath. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: Re: Digital SLR Too bad this is a dream, huh? :( http://www.dpreview.com/news/0009/00091402pentaxdigitalslr.asp Robert - Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Digital SLR You are just plain wrong. Go to http://www.dpreview.com/, poke around until you can find the 2meg - 3meg sample jpg files taken with the DSLRs. Down load them. open them up in a program where you can blow them up to 300 - 400%, and lood at what you see. The images are way better than you can get with any under 2K scanner. If you don't believe your own eyes, go here: http://www.photonews.com/forums/forums.html and see what working pros, who are using digital have to say. There are pros wha have dropped MF film for DSLRs. Just about all the folks saying that digital has a ways to go yet, turn out to be spectators. --- Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't need no stinkin' digital cameras! On a more serious note. I don't know much about digital; however, I'll offer my thoughts on it anyway. Take your pictures with high resolution tried and true film. Have the negatives (or slides) scanned by your processor OR buy the best scanner, computer and printer available NOW, scan the negatives yourself, and you can blow any digital camera currently made out of the water. I believe it would be cheaper than buying any digital SLR currently available. Do folks out there not know this? Digital is a big gotta have it now lie. Changes in digital capability will likely come fast what with Foveon vs. CCD and what not. You will be sitting in the dust in a couple of years resolution-wise as far as digital is concerned if you buy something today. Film is good now and always will be. Am I correct in my thinking and opinions? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rikenon 50/1.4?
At 04:48 PM 3/23/02 +0100, Lasse Karlsson wrote: Mark Cassino wrote: BTW - I could swear I read somewhere that the Rikenon 50mm f2.0 was the sharpest lens ever made for 35mm slrs - but for the life of me I have not been able to locate where I read that. I bought one on ebay (they are pretty cheap) but haven't gotten around to testing it. A very distant bell started ringing as I read the above. I think, although I am not 100 per cent sure, that a few years back I reported that a photo mag (probably Swedish) had tested a Rikenon 50 f2.0 to be the sharpest 50mm lens they had ever tested (MTF). If I find this article again I'll get back to you. LOL! I spent hours searching the web trying ti figure out where I read that. Well, at least I know it came from a reliable source! If you do find the reference let me know. (Is there any way you can search for messages to the old PDML, while run on the Pentax-server?) Doug can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that is all gone now. - MCC - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
My need is for some commercial and personal work, where quality is not too critical, but some features are important. Frankly, I've not paid much attention to it either, and am surprised at what I'm finding. Even on supposedly higher-end cameras, image quality is pretty poor. Chromatic aberration is rampant, and really bad color fringing seems not to be the exception. We'd never accept that kind of crap from our 35mm cameras. Noise, color rendition, lack of sharpness, and detail do not compare to 35mm cameras and film. Check out dpreview.com and be amazed. I've been reading some digital photography magazines, trying to get a handle on what's out there. I've only read three so far, and guess what? Not a single review that I read discussed or showed image quality, but there was plenty of discussion about features. What I'm getting at is that the quality is only so-so, although good enough for many shooters in many situations, but not good enough for the kind of prints some of us like to see. There's a lot of neat features on many cameras, which are important to many users, but not to you and me. I don't need my camera to play movies, do voice-overs, and whistle Dixie. I'd gladly pass on those features for a good 3mp camera with a 28mm lens that produced sharp images. OTOH, I brought in a few hundred $$$ today with some shots made with the awful old Sony Mavica that I have. That goes to show how important quality is in some situations g. Paul Stenquist wrote: I gotta go along with your perspective here and I'm pleased to have it. . I haven't paid much attention to the digital world. Although I scan most of m color images and print them digitally. That's as far as I'm going for now. Interestingly enough, many of the photographers who shoot cars for our company use digital setups on 45 bodies that generate files of around 60 megabytes. I generate 250 megabyte files from my 6x7 scans. On a 13 x19 print, the difference shows. The studio guys acknowledge that film is still better, but they also kow that the clients like the immediate turnaround of digital. (If they so choose the agency and client folk can watch the scan take shape on a monitor in the studio. That's where it's at for commrece, but not for art. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
Once again if you can't afford it and don't need it doesn't mean nobody can afford it, nor need it. You are saying exactly what I said most of the people on this list were saying. When the MZ-D was anounched there was no competiion for it on the market now there is. In digital a year is a full generation, that means that already the competion is moving up. By Photokina which will be exactly two years from Pentax showing the MZ-D, everybody will have 6mp slr digitals, except Pentax of course. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Digital SLR It was supposed to be priced at 7K. For me, it might as well have been vaporware. I think Pentax figured that out. When they can build one for 2k, we will come. They can, and they will Paul Robert Woerner wrote: Too bad this is a dream, huh? :( http://www.dpreview.com/news/0009/00091402pentaxdigitalslr.asp Robert - Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Digital SLR You are just plain wrong. Go to http://www.dpreview.com/, poke around until you can find the 2meg - 3meg sample jpg files taken with the DSLRs. Down load them. open them up in a program where you can blow them up to 300 - 400%, and lood at what you see. The images are way better than you can get with any under 2K scanner. If you don't believe your own eyes, go here: http://www.photonews.com/forums/forums.html and see what working pros, who are using digital have to say. There are pros wha have dropped MF film for DSLRs. Just about all the folks saying that digital has a ways to go yet, turn out to be spectators. --- Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't need no stinkin' digital cameras! On a more serious note. I don't know much about digital; however, I'll offer my thoughts on it anyway. Take your pictures with high resolution tried and true film. Have the negatives (or slides) scanned by your processor OR buy the best scanner, computer and printer available NOW, scan the negatives yourself, and you can blow any digital camera currently made out of the water. I believe it would be cheaper than buying any digital SLR currently available. Do folks out there not know this? Digital is a big gotta have it now lie. Changes in digital capability will likely come fast what with Foveon vs. CCD and what not. You will be sitting in the dust in a couple of years resolution-wise as far as digital is concerned if you buy something today. Film is good now and always will be. Am I correct in my thinking and opinions? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
K 135 f3.5
Hey Paul (Stregevsky), I got the K 135 f3.5 you found for me at ritzcam out of Phoenix. I paid $89 and it is a beaut. No wear or dust/scratches. I'll let you know what I think about it when I get some pics shot and developed. Thanks for the tip. Robert - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: M35/f2.0 STak 35mm f2
Aaron wrote: I was thinking of this, but as my gear is manual focus oriented, I think I'd like to stay with a lens with a good MF feel, and also I'm looking for something small. I'd trade ya my small version SuperTak 35mm f2 for your big awkward one if ya like. - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
A dream is all it ever was, and probably will be for $7,000. --- Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad this is a dream, huh? :( http://www.dpreview.com/news/0009/00091402pentaxdigitalslr.asp Robert Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
I assume that you've been looking at the $1000 digicams. The whole camera costs about what just the sensor does in the SDLRs. You don't see that junk in the DSLR files dpreview has on their site. Not all 3mp cameras are the same. Judging a camera by just its pixel count is like judging a car based only on its advertized peak HP. --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My need is for some commercial and personal work, where quality is not too critical, but some features are important. Frankly, I've not paid much attention to it either, and am surprised at what I'm finding. Even on supposedly higher-end cameras, image quality is pretty poor. Chromatic aberration is rampant, and really bad color fringing seems not to be the exception. We'd never accept that kind of crap from our 35mm cameras. Noise, color rendition, lack of sharpness, and detail do not compare to 35mm cameras and film. Check out dpreview.com and be amazed. Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
- Original Message - From: Robert Woerner Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Digital SLR Two questions. Did the LX result in pros acceptance of Pentax in the marketplace? Speaking personally, yes. The LX moved me from Nikon to Pentax. How many digital SLRs have been produced at this point in time? I think Pål said 20,000 earlier today. I accept that number. Who is Mafud? You don't want to know. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Quest for a camera bag
So, I ended up with a thing called a Lowe Pro Photo Trekker AW today. It holds the 6x7 and the 7 lenses that I own, plus the geegaws that I carry around to make my photographic life even more miserable. It seems to be a well made thing. It is almost comfortable, I will have to spend some time seeing if I can make it conform to my body, or if I will have to conform to it. I hope I can make it work for me. I couldn't find a shoulder bag that would work for me, but this backpack has a shoulder strap, so it can be carried much like a shoulder bag, anyway. I can carry it fully laden, which is a bonus, I will try it out over the next week, and decide if I want to keep it or not. Thanks again to all who advised me on this. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Need help on Portable Lighting Setup
Steve, I'll give you my 2 cents worth. For diffusing the light, Lumiquest makes a softbox that velcros on to your flash. It does a reasonable job and can be used even when the flash is in the hotshoe of your camera. Cost is about $25. Use a couple of wein optical slaves, hook one flash up to your camera through 5p cord and two hotshoe adapter F's. So one flash is hooked to the camera through the 5p stuff and has a softbox on it, one flash is used for fill with slave trigger and softbox and a third can be used for background fill with an optical slave. Use them on manual mode and adjust light output by moving the lights if they don't have multiple power settings. You may need to invest in a lightstand or two. It would be most ideal to use a flash meter, but if not, you could burn a couple of rolls of slide film testing at different f stops to see how things looked. Bruce Dayton Saturday, March 23, 2002, 5:36:17 PM, you wrote: SP I'm looking to do some friends' (as well as possibly SP some semi-pro) jobs/portraits in the near future. I SP would like input from anyone who has a portable SP lighting system. What type of equipment do you have, SP how much will it cost me, etc. I'm leaning towards a SP slave system. I'm not sure if that's the right way to SP go. I'm just starting my research into this equipment. SP My current equipment is Pentax Super Program manual SP focus: SP 100 mm 2.8 lens SP 135 mm 2.8 SP AF200T SP Vivitar 283 SP Can I get good results by simply using the Vivitar SP 283, bounced into an umbrella? I've been thinking SP about a newer, bigger, better Pentax flash (280, 400, SP 550, etc.). Would this be a good combo to bounce from SP the camera? And still use the 283 the AF200T? SP What about a cheap portable back drop-any SP recommendations there? SP What about a flash meter-any SP suggestions/recommendations for brand, model, price, SP etc.? SP Any ideas suggestions would be greatly appreciated! SP Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® SP http://movies.yahoo.com/ SP - SP This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, SP go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to SP visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Len Paris wrote: I appreciate the verve, enthusiasm, and good intentions with which you made that statement but 5 years ago was 1997 and computers were a lot more powerful than you give them credit for being. Unless you have some good, recognized references for a statement like that, you shouldn't make it. Five years ago, in 1997, a well specified computer would have been a Pentium II 350 with 128MB of RAM, about 10Gb hard disk and a hardware accelerated video card powering a 17 monitor. I know this, because I still have the well specified computer I bought in 1997 and I'm using it right now as a mail-server and web-server. Now maybe his statement would have been true if he'd said ten years ago, when a powerful machine would've been a 486 with 32Mb. dave -- dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net A lie is an abomination unto the Lord and a very present help in time of trouble. -- Adlai Stevenson - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Quest for a camera bag
You will regret that you did not take my advice. GRIN Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: Quest for a camera bag So, I ended up with a thing called a Lowe Pro Photo Trekker AW today. It holds the 6x7 and the 7 lenses that I own, plus the geegaws that I carry around to make my photographic life even more miserable. It seems to be a well made thing. It is almost comfortable, I will have to spend some time seeing if I can make it conform to my body, or if I will have to conform to it. I hope I can make it work for me. I couldn't find a shoulder bag that would work for me, but this backpack has a shoulder strap, so it can be carried much like a shoulder bag, anyway. I can carry it fully laden, which is a bonus, I will try it out over the next week, and decide if I want to keep it or not. Thanks again to all who advised me on this. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
I'm not judging the camera by pixel count, I'm judging by the results I saw, and I specifically did not mention 6mp DSLR cameras. They use different lenses, to begin with - they use the same or similar lenses that are used on 35mm SLR cameras. Bruce Rubenstein wrote: I assume that you've been looking at the $1000 digicams. The whole camera costs about what just the sensor does in the SDLRs. You don't see that junk in the DSLR files dpreview has on their site. Not all 3mp cameras are the same. Judging a camera by just its pixel count is like judging a car based only on its advertized peak HP. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OH....MY....GOD
I set up the tripod, attached th 645n. Grabbed the AF500FTZ out of the bag, attached a long 5p and a Quantum. Attached the 5p to the camera and handed the flash and battery to my assistant. I turn around for 2 seconds...and hear my rig crash to the ground. She had just sort of walked off with the flash in her hand. Yes, the one attached to the camera. It fell nose first, and the FA 45-85/4.5 took the brunt. It appears to be toast. The filter ring is completely bent, and I can't turn the focusing ring. Wah. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
Oh, Man! That's a sorry shame. tom wrote: I set up the tripod, attached th 645n. Grabbed the AF500FTZ out of the bag, attached a long 5p and a Quantum. Attached the 5p to the camera and handed the flash and battery to my assistant. I turn around for 2 seconds...and hear my rig crash to the ground. She had just sort of walked off with the flash in her hand. Yes, the one attached to the camera. It fell nose first, and the FA 45-85/4.5 took the brunt. It appears to be toast. The filter ring is completely bent, and I can't turn the focusing ring. Wah. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A few questions....
As always I recommend Berlebach tripods. www.berlebach.de Pål - Pål, Thanks for the link, interesting to note only two tripod manufacturers recommended! I won't look at anything else as I prefer recommendation. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
F5.6 and Be There
Yesterday my new focusing scope arrived ... a lovely, almost new, Micro Sight with 25X magnification. Just a while ago I grabbed a roll of TX that was sitting around, loaded a frame into the Beseler 23C-II with the dichro head, and raised it to fill a full sheet of 11x14 paper using the 80mm/4.0 Componon-S. First thing is that the difference between the 25X Micro Sight and the 10X Peak is amazing, not just in terms of bigger grain clumps to focus on, but the Micro Sight sure appeared to provide a brighter image through the eyepiece. The lens was set wide open, and stopping down to 5.6 showed a very marked improvement in contrast and sharpness. Moving to F/8.0 didn't show much of a change, but beyond that it was clear that contrast was falling off, and the grain clumps looked a little softer. Moving the focuser around under the projected image sharpness and contrast seemed about equal at the frame edge and center of the image, although I didn't get way into the corners. Using the larger magnification scope seems like it may be very helpful in determining the ideal apertures for the enlarging lens. When I get a little more time, and don't feel so tired, I'll do the same with all my lenses on both enlargers. Might be enlightening. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 01:52:16 -0500 tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It fell nose first, and the FA 45-85/4.5 took the brunt. It appears to be toast. The filter ring is completely bent, and I can't turn the focusing ring. Ouch!, bad! how is the body? Kevin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OH....MY....GOD
Oh sh*t !! Sorry to hear.. :( that royally sucks... big time :( Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tom Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 1:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OHMYGOD I set up the tripod, attached th 645n. Grabbed the AF500FTZ out of the bag, attached a long 5p and a Quantum. Attached the 5p to the camera and handed the flash and battery to my assistant. I turn around for 2 seconds...and hear my rig crash to the ground. She had just sort of walked off with the flash in her hand. Yes, the one attached to the camera. It fell nose first, and the FA 45-85/4.5 took the brunt. It appears to be toast. The filter ring is completely bent, and I can't turn the focusing ring. Wah. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
OUCH --- tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I set up the tripod, attached th 645n. Grabbed the AF500FTZ out of the bag, attached a long 5p and a Quantum. Attached the 5p to the camera and handed the flash and battery to my assistant. I turn around for 2 seconds...and hear my rig crash to the ground. She had just sort of walked off with the flash in her hand. Yes, the one attached to the camera. It fell nose first, and the FA 45-85/4.5 took the brunt. It appears to be toast. The filter ring is completely bent, and I can't turn the focusing ring. Wah. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
That's gotta hurt! Sorry man. Bruce Dayton Saturday, March 23, 2002, 10:52:16 PM, you wrote: t I set up the tripod, attached th 645n. Grabbed the AF500FTZ out of the bag, attached a long 5p and a Quantum. Attached the 5p to the camera and handed the flash and t battery to my assistant. t I turn around for 2 seconds...and hear my rig crash to the ground. She had just sort of walked off with the flash in her hand. Yes, the one attached to the camera. t It fell nose first, and the FA 45-85/4.5 took the brunt. It appears to be toast. The filter ring is completely bent, and I can't turn the focusing ring. t Wah. t tv t - t This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, t go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to t visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
Everyone is asking about the equipment. What I want to know is - when does the assistant get out of the hospital? -=Mike=- In the Pacific Northwet - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: OHMYGOD | I set up the tripod, attached th 645n. Grabbed the AF500FTZ out of the bag, attached a long 5p and a Quantum. Attached the 5p to the camera and handed the flash and | battery to my assistant. | | I turn around for 2 seconds...and hear my rig crash to the ground. She had just sort of walked off with the flash in her hand. Yes, the one attached to the camera. | | It fell nose first, and the FA 45-85/4.5 took the brunt. It appears to be toast. The filter ring is completely bent, and I can't turn the focusing ring. | | Wah. | | tv | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2387
I've been watching this auction for a couple of days. somebody sniped me after I had the high bid 30 seconds to go! I hope it was someone on the list. What a bargain! Christian. You are such a nice-guy. If it were me, I'd be grinding my teeth and saying I hope they burn in hell. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
The one area which Pentax might still be able to carve out a niche for their DSLRs is in the ergonomics/usability area though... I picked up Sigma's pro digital offering and was shocked at how poorly the camera felt in my hands, not to mention how all the controls were laid out. Forget the advantages of the new Foveon technology or whatever they call it; if it don't fit, I ain't gonna use it! Cheers. On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 02:24 PM, pentax-discuss-digest wrote: When the MZ-D was anounched there was no competiion for it on the market now there is. In digital a year is a full generation, that means that already the competion is moving up. By Photokina which will be exactly two years from Pentax showing the MZ-D, everybody will have 6mp slr digitals, except Pentax of course. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
