RE: GFM gear

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>Which reminds me, with so many new PDMLers showing up does that release TV
>and me from 'gate boy' duty?

Surely illegal in N.C. ?



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Auxiliary power supply for the *ist D

2003-10-16 Thread max mcrae
Guys, 

I noticed on a review site that the *IstD has a 6.5V input socket. 
Could it be powered with a Quantum TurboZ power pack?

Regards,

Max





Re: CLA for K50mm

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>Is the dust in-between the lens elements?  How does it get there?
>I  have a ~20 yo 50mm Pentax A lens that doesn't have any dust
>inside.

It is between certain groups of elements and the action of focussing can
suck in / blow out miniscule amounts of dust in the air that must be able
to move in and out of the lens, otherwise it would not work. Any lens
acts like a small, slow pump - especially zooms.

Which brings an interesting possibility - creating a vacuum inside




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RE: November autopug submissions so far

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>How is Stefan getting on with his Z10 BTw Cotty?

Could do better.

>
>Not seen any more PUGS of any of his pics on your website lately.  Has
>he lost interest, or just too shy to show us what he can do?  Bet he
>wants a nifty little optio S like Jos's eh?

You guessed it. That and he's going through a very active sport phase. He
plays for a local team and loves it. Practice Tuesday afternoon, matches
Saturday morning. Got Man of the Match one day :-)

He does get his Z10 out occasionally. They all went to Cotswold wildlife
park and he took his kit along and to be fair came back with some pretty
decent shots. He used up a few rolls that sit forlornly in the fridge.
You open the door and they all jump up and down going 'Yes, yes, yes,
yes! Me, pick me! Me! Pick me!' and then they see me reach for the orange
juice and as I shut the door they go 'you bastard'.

I should really scan them for him but I've forgotten how


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Re: FAJ 18-35 vs. FA 20-35?

2003-10-16 Thread Arnold Stark
Do you have any proof for the FA"0-35 being "much better"? In my 
opinion, the low price of the FA-J18-35 are a result of 1.) the omission 
of the aperture ring, 2.) a plastic lens mount, and 3.) the slow speed 
of this lens. Other than that I see no evidence that the FA-J18-35 is 
inferior to the FA20-35, neither optically nor mechanically.

Arnold

Joseph Tainter schrieb:

Heiko, the FA 20-35 f4 is one of Pentax's best. It has been my 
favorite lens, and the one that has given me keeper after keeper.

The FAJ is a cheap, entry-level lens, created so that digital kits can 
be offered at a low price. If you can afford the FA 20-35, it will be 
much better.

Joe






RE: Digital vs Film observation

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>I shoot it occasionally so I don't forget how. I feel a little foolish
>when I squeeze off a frame on the 645n then check the back. That
>damned screen is always blank.

You damn chimp.






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Re: ist D and Arca Swiss quick release

2003-10-16 Thread Alan Chan
Judging from the picture, the standard RRS B21 should do.

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Anyone out there using arca swiss release that got a ist D.  I just 
realized that I need a new plate for my new toy and I would appreciate 
suggestions.
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Re: FAJ 18-35 vs. FA 20-35?

2003-10-16 Thread Arnold Stark
Do you have any proof for this? In my opinion, the low price of the 
FA-J18-35 are a result of 1.) the omission of the aperture ring, 2.) a 
plastic lens mount, and 3.) of the slow speed of this lens. Other than 
that I see no evidence that the FA-J18-35 is inferiour to the FA20-35, 
neither optically nor mechanically.

Arnold

Joseph Tainter schrieb:

Heiko, the FA 20-35 f4 is one of Pentax's best. It has been my 
favorite lens, and the one that has given me keeper after keeper.

The FAJ is a cheap, entry-level lens, created so that digital kits can 
be offered at a low price. If you can afford the FA 20-35, it will be 
much better.

Joe






Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ... dealing with OT

2003-10-16 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Alex,

I've been with this group for ... I don't know how many years. I've found it
to be the most interesting of all those I've ever joined. The fact that
threads appear regularly that have little, or nothing, to do with Pentax is
what makes it so interesting. I don't care about cars and delete every post
about them. Its very easy, the Del key is to the right just below insert,
and I employ my middle finger, not being an expert typist. There are many
other topics that don't interest me and I use the same technique. With very
few exceptions the members are a great bunch of people. The really
unpleasant ones haven't lasted very long and I have a filter for one of
those who persists. I've also blotted my copybook a few times, but have been
forgiven very soon ... by most ... I think.

I believe that there is *always* someone in every list who knows more than
you do. Take advantage of this. I also believe that about one in twenty will
always disagree with you and there are others who will *always* nag. I've
had some problems dealing with that.

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- Original Message - 
From: "alex wetmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...


> So did I get lost in the car forum or is this supposed to be the
> Pentax forum?  I think I'm remembering why I dropped off of it a few
> years ago.
>
> Hopefully we can have more camera discussion than car discussion
> over the next few days.
>
> alex
>




Re: *ist-D in DPReview Pentax Forum

2003-10-16 Thread Arnold Stark
For the *ist D,  the FA-J 18-35 is not bad at all, as its limited 
zooming range and speed much help its optical quality! IMHO and from my 
2-day experience the FA-J is as good as the chip of the *ist D requires 
it to be.

Arnold

Joseph Tainter schrieb:

"I hope, hope, hope, hope that Pentax is sending the *ist-D
out to reviewers with good lenses (preferably at least one Limited),
rather than just the cheapo zooms."
Nope, it looks like it is being reviewed with the FAJ 18-35.

Joe






ist D and Arca Swiss quick release

2003-10-16 Thread Paul Eriksson
Anyone out there using arca swiss release that got a ist D.  I just realized 
that I need a new plate for my new toy and I would appreciate suggestions.

thanks
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RE: GFM gear

2003-10-16 Thread tom
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Are Pentax-using teetotallers going to be welcome at NPW?
>

I'll buy you a coke and a bar-b-q sandwich, but you'll have to suffer
politely as Doug and I attempt Neil Young.

tv




Re: November autopug submissions so far

2003-10-16 Thread Butch Black
>Hi, gang.
>Here's a list over all the people with successfully registered pictures in
>the Autopug for November.

[snip}

>BigButt

What the hell's this?

I've just installed Content Barrier X on my son's iMac - will the page
load, I ask myself!


Cheers,
  Cotty

Could be worse Cotty. I made the mistake of searching my name, Butch Black,
on Google. Let's just say that you don't want to do the search on your son's
iMac. The real me shows up around the 8th or 9th page. :)

Butch

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Re: Trouble with PUG

2003-10-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

J> well anyway,
J> I'm working on the mailserver connection. Hopefully that will fix it.

J> cheers,
J> Jostein

Today morning (my time ) it suddenly worked. Jostein, please if
you couldn't see my submission by the time you read this, let me know,
I'd use the e-mail route...

Thanks!

Boris



Re: Long exposure question

2003-10-16 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Chris Brogden wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Bob Walkden wrote:
> 
> > > The one thing you _can't_ do on an LX.  I remember being flabbergasted
> > > when I wanted to and realised I couldn't.  The lever goes in opposite
> > > directions for the two operations...
> >
> > well, what a lousy camera. Makes me glad mine were nicked .
> >
> > I thought you could do this:
> >
> > Lift & lock the mirror. This made the lever loose from the 'neutral'
> > position in the direction of the lens mouth, but you could still pull
> > it away from the mouth to crank up the self-timer.
> 
> Just tried it on my LX and couldn't do it.  The MLU action (press the
> button and move the lever towards the lens) locks the lever.  The only way
> to move it the opposite direction to activate the self-timer is to press
> the button releasing the lever, and this also deactivates the MLU.

My findings exactly.  Thought it was my example but once I got an
instruction book (long after I got the camera) I noticed it
specifically says that this sequence of operation is not possible. 
Truly a useless bit of tat. 8-)

m



Re: Da Cubbies

2003-10-16 Thread Butch Black
I have only one thing to say


Yankees win thaa Yankees win

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RE: Swabs and *ist D

2003-10-16 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > We sell things called "sensor swabs."  They're supposed to have been
> > packaged in sterile rooms by 21 year old virgins or something like that.
> > Open the package, swipe one across your sensor *only once*, and repeat
> > with another package if necessary.  Never used them myself, as I don't
> > have a DSLR yet.
> >
> > chris
> >
> Although only Kodak and Fuji have said its ok to use the swabs and
> cleaning fluid on their sensors, Nikon(and i suppose Pentax as its
> new)have not endorsed the product.The lads on the D1 BB all use them
> with,as they report,good results. I see the fluid on the Henrys and
> Vistek web sites but not the swabs. I take it Dons has them Chris.

Yup, kicking around somewhere.  I suspect the repair centers use something
similar when they clean sensors, as blower brushes don't work all the
time.  I'm pretty nervous about allowing anything to touch the sensor, but
the people locally who've used the swabs say that they work beautifully.
If you want to see something really scary, remove your lens, fire the
shutter on bulb (or lock up the mirror), and have a look at the
pretty-coloured sensor that's now collecting millions of tiny dust
particles.  :)

chris



Re: LX users - where to process film?

2003-10-16 Thread Chris Brogden

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, jmb wrote:

> Where do you all get your film processed and prints made?
> Wal*Mart, drug store, or photo store or at home?

Photo store.  Of course, working there makes it easier...  :)

chris



Re: Long exposure question

2003-10-16 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Bob Walkden wrote:

> > The one thing you _can't_ do on an LX.  I remember being flabbergasted
> > when I wanted to and realised I couldn't.  The lever goes in opposite
> > directions for the two operations...
>
> well, what a lousy camera. Makes me glad mine were nicked .
>
> I thought you could do this:
>
> Lift & lock the mirror. This made the lever loose from the 'neutral'
> position in the direction of the lens mouth, but you could still pull
> it away from the mouth to crank up the self-timer.

Just tried it on my LX and couldn't do it.  The MLU action (press the
button and move the lever towards the lens) locks the lever.  The only way
to move it the opposite direction to activate the self-timer is to press
the button releasing the lever, and this also deactivates the MLU.

chris



*ist D $1500

2003-10-16 Thread Paul Eriksson
Yes, my wife said ok so it's sitting right here next to the monitor.  
Surprisingly it was only $1500 at Samys camera in LA and they had some left 
after I went.  Just in case someone is interested.

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Re: LX users - where to process film?

2003-10-16 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "jmb" 
Subject: LX users - where to process film?


> Where do you all get your film processed and prints made?
> Wal*Mart, drug store, or photo store or at home?

LX #1 Wal-Mart.
LX#2 Kodak.
LX#3 Home darkroom.
Not really, I hardly ever shoot B&W on 35mm.

William Robb



Re: Long exposure question

2003-10-16 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Larson"
Subject: Re: Long exposure question


> Hey Bill,
>   What is French flagging? Oh, and why is it called that? ;)

You didn't do a Google search did you?
Anyway, it's an old technique from when lenses didn't have shutters. The
photographer would cap the lens, then pull the dark slide.
The dark slide was then used as a flag in fromt of the lens while the cap
was pulled. The flag was then used as a shutter to allow the exposure.
After the exposure, the lens was recapped, and the dark slide was reinserted
into the film back.
It's still a great way to enjoy some of the classic lenses that are in
barrel mounts.

William Robb



Re: LX users - where to process film?

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Apilado
I get film runned through my LX, and ESII (Provia) at two places here in
Portland, OR:  Quick Stop Photo and Citizens Photo.  I get prints from my
Optio 230 done at Quick Stop.  Decided I don't want to get a printer for
digital images because of paper costs and inks costs.  Much easier to let
the processor do everything.  Plus,  I like the people behind the counter.

Jim A.

> From: jmb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:50:16 -0400
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: LX users - where to process film?
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:43:22 -0400
> 
> Where do you all get your film processed and prints made?
> Wal*Mart, drug store, or photo store or at home?
> 
> John
> 
> 



Re: GFM gear

2003-10-16 Thread Doug Brewer
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 11:28 PM, frank theriault wrote:

I should hope so.  Someone has to drive us home.  

-frank

PS:  Seriously, I'm a much better talker than a drinker.  I'll be 
passed out on the floor at about 8:30, after my second beer.  




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Are Pentax-using teetotallers going to be welcome at NPW?
I'm generally nursing several largish Dr. Peppers through the 
festivities. They haven't run me off because of it. They run me off for 
other reasons, I think.




RE: GFM gear

2003-10-16 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Eleanor,

You are always welcomed when I am around.  You did not shrink away from my
snaked LX - I am proud.

But yes, teetotallers are welcomed.  We welcome all.

Still trying to be the roving PDML ambassador,

César
Panama City, Florida

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RE: GFM gear

2003-10-16 Thread frank theriault
I should hope so.  Someone has to drive us home.  

-frank

PS:  Seriously, I'm a much better talker than a drinker.  I'll be passed out 
on the floor at about 8:30, after my second beer.  



"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





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RE: Digital vs Film observation

2003-10-16 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Cesar,

I'm not interested in any Nikon lenses.  All I meant was that I'd consider 
an F4 (or any other Nikon body) if I had some lenses to throw on it.  I have 
no desire to start another system.

Working on the bike this weekend?  (I still haven't answered your off-list 
e-mail from a couple of days ago.  Nice looking old thing, eh?)

cheers,
frank


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From: "Cesar Matamoros II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Digital vs Film observation
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:26:18 -0400
I could never get used to the size of the F4 though.  Just imagine the time
I had using the D1X and D1H...
Trying to stay caught up until the busy weekend starts,

César
Panama City, Florida
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but
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Re: Is PUG a gallery

2003-10-16 Thread Brendan
Yup, it's where we impose our images on to tohers.

 --- jmb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does PUG
mean  Pentax Users Gallery?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> 
>  

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Re: Is PUG a gallery

2003-10-16 Thread cbwaters
Yup.
http://pug.komkon.org/
It is cool as the other side of the pillow too.

Cory 
post hog today?

- Original Message - 
From: "jmb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:01 PM
Subject: Is PUG a gallery


> Does PUG mean  Pentax Users Gallery?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 


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Pentax Recalls *ist D -- Shock Hazard

2003-10-16 Thread Joseph Tainter
Not really. That's just to get some attention.

Gang, what are we going to do about themes for next year's PUG? Except 
for Synchronicity I can live with the themes now planned. They just seem 
rather dull.

I have long favored revisiting some old themes. It would be fun to 
compare then and now.

Whatever everyone prefers, please, please change Synchronicity. We were 
promised no more of it.

Okay, now you can all go back to playing with your starkistdees.

Joe



Is PUG a gallery

2003-10-16 Thread jmb
Does PUG mean  Pentax Users Gallery?

Thanks,

John




Re: CLA for K50mm

2003-10-16 Thread jmb
Cotty wrote:
>...CLA a K50mm f/1.2 lens. It works fine but is full of dust.
Cotty,

Is the dust in-between the lens elements?  How does it get there?
I  have a ~20 yo 50mm Pentax A lens that doesn't have any dust
inside.
John





Re: FAJ 18-35 vs. FA 20-35?

2003-10-16 Thread Joseph Tainter
Heiko, the FA 20-35 f4 is one of Pentax's best. It has been my favorite 
lens, and the one that has given me keeper after keeper.

The FAJ is a cheap, entry-level lens, created so that digital kits can 
be offered at a low price. If you can afford the FA 20-35, it will be 
much better.

Joe



Re: *ist-D in DPReview Pentax Forum

2003-10-16 Thread Joseph Tainter
"I hope, hope, hope, hope that Pentax is sending the *ist-D
out to reviewers with good lenses (preferably at least one Limited),
rather than just the cheapo zooms."
Nope, it looks like it is being reviewed with the FAJ 18-35.

Joe



LX users - where to process film?

2003-10-16 Thread jmb
Where do you all get your film processed and prints made?
Wal*Mart, drug store, or photo store or at home?
John




Re: November autopug submissions so far

2003-10-16 Thread Brendan
I'm working on mine still, check for one tonight.

 --- Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, gang.
> Here's a list over all the people with successfully
> registered pictures in
> the Autopug for November.
> As of 2003-10-16 at 20:00 GMT. The list does NOT
> include those who have
> submitted by email to Adelheid.
> 
> If you have submitted via Autopug and can't find
> your name on the list,
> please drop me an email.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jostein
> 
> -
> Alan Chan
> Albano Garcia
> Amy Jo Patey
> André Albano
> Andrew Wong
> BigButt
> Bill Sawyer
> Bob Tait
> Chris Murray
> Cotty
> Daniel Auger
> Danton Villas Boas
> Derby Chang
> Don Williams
> E.R.N. Reed
> frank theriault
> Fred Widall
> Frits J. Wuthrich
> Gerald Lewis
> HAMICHE Samir
> Harald Rust
> Jan van Wijk
> John F. Ciesla
> John Francis
> Joseph Tainter
> Kenneth Waller
> Mark Stringer
> Martin Mielke
> Max McRae
> Ollen Mullis
> Partho
> Paul Rojkov
> Paul Stenquist
> Richard Gardner
> Ryan Lee
> Sandor Lueff
> Stephen Pruetz
> Steve Larson
> Steven Desjardins
> Sylwester Pietrzyk
> Toni Lankerd
> Wessel Sijl
> Willaim Robb
> 
> --
> -
>  

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Re: OT: dremel tools

2003-10-16 Thread Brendan
Plausible  enabling you mean :-)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey, 
> I didn't tell him what to do just provided the tool.
> (plausible denial)
> 
> Cory
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brendan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: dremel tools
> 
> 
> > Oh no dremels and cameras, you guys are gonna
> start
> > drilling into those old K and M lenses to make
> them
> > wotk in *IST and D's
> > 
> >  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You can get
> the
> > tool, case, and fifty or so
> > > accessories for around seventy
> > > dollars.  Very handy to have around the shop.
> > > Cory
> > > 
> > > - Original Message - 
> > > From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in
> > > Italy)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > disgorged:
> > > >
> > > > >Don't forget your Dremmel...
> > > >
> > > > You know what? I would love one of those. It's
> > > something I've always
> > > > wanted but just never gotten around to buying.
> > > Actually they are quite
> > > > expensive, no? I might look at eBay for one...
> > > >
> > > > And of course I'll need a belt holster for it.
> > > LOL.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >   Cotty
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Re: OT: dremel tools

2003-10-16 Thread cbwaters
Hey, 
I didn't tell him what to do just provided the tool. (plausible denial)

Cory

- Original Message - 
From: "Brendan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: OT: dremel tools


> Oh no dremels and cameras, you guys are gonna start
> drilling into those old K and M lenses to make them
> wotk in *IST and D's
> 
>  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You can get the
> tool, case, and fifty or so
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> > Cory
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> > Actually they are quite
> > > expensive, no? I might look at eBay for one...
> > >
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> > >
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Re: OT: dremel tools

2003-10-16 Thread Brendan
Oh no dremels and cameras, you guys are gonna start
drilling into those old K and M lenses to make them
wotk in *IST and D's

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You can get the
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> accessories for around seventy
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> Cory
> 
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> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:53 PM
> Subject: Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in
> Italy)
> 
> 
> > On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >Don't forget your Dremmel...
> >
> > You know what? I would love one of those. It's
> something I've always
> > wanted but just never gotten around to buying.
> Actually they are quite
> > expensive, no? I might look at eBay for one...
> >
> > And of course I'll need a belt holster for it.
> LOL.
> >
> > Cheers,
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Re: Trouble with PUG

2003-10-16 Thread Butch Black
It is not that was getting error messages. All of the above conditions
were met, still it would not get through.

Boris

I have never been able to get the auto-pug to work correctly for me. I have
had no problems sending an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and attaching the
jpg file. I gave up trying to figure out why.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)




OT: dremel tools

2003-10-16 Thread cbwaters
You can get the tool, case, and fifty or so accessories for around seventy
dollars.  Very handy to have around the shop.
Cory

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To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)


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>
> >Don't forget your Dremmel...
>
> You know what? I would love one of those. It's something I've always
> wanted but just never gotten around to buying. Actually they are quite
> expensive, no? I might look at eBay for one...
>
> And of course I'll need a belt holster for it. LOL.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: OT: Lotus Elise

2003-10-16 Thread Robert Gonzalez
Swet

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some of you were discussing the Lotus Elise a few days ago and I thought I'd
pass along that the US version is reviewed in this month's Road &Track.
It's getting a new Toyota engine with 190 bhp and 133 lb.-ft of torque...
not bad for a car weighing in at < 2K pounds.
Too bad I just bought such an expensive camera.  I guess the RX-7 will have
to do for now :)
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RE: Digital vs Film observation

2003-10-16 Thread Rob Brigham
I better still use film - I just bought a truckload of the stuff a
couple of days before Peter led me to the dark side by going and
importing an istD with my name on it!

I am sure I will specifically set out to do a batch of film every now
and again - if only to hold the loverly MZ-S again...

Still like slides for some reason too.  Nothing else will ever have the
impact of a 5 foot high projected image!

> -Original Message-
> From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 16 October 2003 20:06
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Digital vs Film observation
> 
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> I plan to use my film camera as much as I do now.  As I have 
> acquired smaller digital cameras - three to date - I have 
> found they have added to my shooting not supplanted it.  I 
> will see if having a DSLR will change that. I like the *ist D 
> in the fact that I can carry it and a couple of film cameras 
> in the same pack.  It would be more cumbersome with other 
> DSLRs due to their size and weight.
> 
> I especially plan to only cart my film gear when I travel 
> internationally. Who needs to carry a portable?  Even a 
> portable hard drive is too much of a hassle.  Though I may 
> have to change that if I go to the isle across the pond as I 
> do not know how Cotty would greet me with only film gear:-)
> 
> And of course there is my medium format gear that I will keep using.
> 
> There are many occasions when I will need to use digital - 
> event shooting when I will want some sample shots to send out 
> electronically and timing is of the essence.  Quick 
> documenting of items for use in presentations within the 
> hour.  Presentations of awards and such at work where the 
> main viewing is on computer and there is no thought of printing...
> 
> Just my two cents,
> 
> Cesar
> Panama City, Florida
> 
> -- -Original Message-
> -- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:02 PM
> --
> -- Certainly makes for a real dilemma.  Buy the DSLR and pretty
> -- much quit
> -- shooting film because of how fun it is.  So you go to sell 
> your film
> -- gear and find that it is worthless (as resale - not 
> useless).  So you
> -- resolve to use it - but find the digi is so much fun that 
> you really
> -- don't use it.  Seems to not buy the digi in the first place makes
> -- sense.  Just don't try one or you might get hooked.
> --
> -- I'd be curious to know how many who have a DSLR really use 
> their film
> -- bodies anymore.  Outside of wide angle issues I suspect 
> that very few
> -- really do.
> --
> -- ---
> -- Bruce
> 
> 



RE: November autopug submissions so far

2003-10-16 Thread Rob Brigham
How is Stefan getting on with his Z10 BTw Cotty?

Not seen any more PUGS of any of his pics on your website lately.  Has
he lost interest, or just too shy to show us what he can do?  Bet he
wants a nifty little optio S like Jos's eh?

> -Original Message-
> From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> I've just installed Content Barrier X on my son't iMac - will 
> the page load, I ask myself!
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
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Re: Zenit 16mm Fisheye & *istD

2003-10-16 Thread frank theriault
Yeah, whatever, Cotty,

Excuse me while I go grind some coffee beans.

I'm sorry, you want me to put my arm ~where~ in that cow?

cheers,
frank




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From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

'City folk'...

;-)

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Re: November autopug submissions so far

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>Hi, gang.
>Here's a list over all the people with successfully registered pictures in
>the Autopug for November.

[snip}

>BigButt

What the hell's this?

I've just installed Content Barrier X on my son't iMac - will the page
load, I ask myself!


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Re: OT: Ordinary objects?

2003-10-16 Thread frank theriault
I just stay off my meds for a couple of days;  same effect.  

cheers,
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From: Simon King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I stumbled across the following at the site indicated below;

"Intentional, even blur can be produced by holding a vibrator in the same
hand as your camera...interesting effect, but one I would suggest to do in
the studio only!"
Anyone tried this?
Simon
Cited from;
Cheap Tricks: Ordinary Objects Create Extraordinary Effects
By Nanette Staph for Usefilm.com
Published January 2002
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Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>Don't forget your Dremmel...

You know what? I would love one of those. It's something I've always
wanted but just never gotten around to buying. Actually they are quite
expensive, no? I might look at eBay for one...

And of course I'll need a belt holster for it. LOL.

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Re: Swabs and *ist D

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>The E-1 vibrates dust off the sensor every time your turn it on.

This provides some interesting possibilities.

NOT what you are thinking, you sickies. Well, what about this business of
shooting with a vibrator to get those soft-focus shots?

Mind you, what happens to the dust? It'll be like the bits of burnt bread
at the bottom of the toaster - all is well until you turn the camera
upside down




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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-16 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Just keep digging till we get to the mountains of Australia.

On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 11:04, Jostein wrote:
> Quoting Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > This proves the Netherlands is much much older, since it is all worn
> > down to less then 50 meters.
> 
> LOL.
> How deep must you dig in the Netherlands to reach solid rock? :-)
> 
> Jostein
> 
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RE: Digital vs Film observation

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>I especially plan to only cart my film gear when I travel internationally.
>Who needs to carry a portable?  Even a portable hard drive is too much of a
>hassle.  Though I may have to change that if I go to the isle across the
>pond as I do not know how Cotty would greet me with only film gear:-)

I 'm as much a PowerBooker as a photog. In fact the PB goes with me more
places than the cameras do. Every day to work, without fail. In my work I
find I may have up to 3 hours to kill parked up in a side street. It's a
clock, hi-fi, pic viewing machine, book, typewriter, tv, radio, colouring
book, calendar, map, newspaper, jotter, gaming machine, library, phone
book, and even a lava lamp ;-)

I have 3 gear bags, 2 of which carry a computer. The one I'll be bringing
to GFM will be a LowePro Stealth back pack - the amount of stuff it will
carry is impressive bearing in mind it's nowhere near as big as the
Nature Trekkers etc. It will take me a week to decide which lenses  to bring!

Cesar I would greet you the way I greet anyone from the list.

With a wink, of course ;-)



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RE: Digital vs Film observation

2003-10-16 Thread tom
> -Original Message-
> From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
> >I'd be curious to know how many who have a DSLR really use
> their film
> >bodies anymore.  Outside of wide angle issues I suspect
> that very few
> >really do.
>
> Not even with wide angle issues. I can go down to 22mm
> which is plenty
> wide for me.

Which 14 do you have?

>
> Haven't shot film in a year. No regrets, either. Times change.

I shoot it occasionally so I don't forget how. I feel a little foolish
when I squeeze off a frame on the 645n then check the back. That
damned screen is always blank.

tv






RE: GFM gear

2003-10-16 Thread frank theriault
Hey, I resent that.  My mug's "interesting", not ugly!

I'm sure, Cotty, that the more I drink at GFM, the funnier you'll get. 

cheers,
frank
PS:  I hate it when I ignore a thread, then pop in mid-thread, and find 
stuff I'm interested in!



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fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cesar, you and me can have our own little breakaway group and critique
some of their ugly mugs ;-)

We might just manage a landscape if the light's right I suppose?

>Hmmm, first he takes my bed, now he is going to be taking non-nature 
shots.
>Good thing I don't have a girlfriend... :-)

You can borrow mine - just don't tell the wife.

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Re: Long exposure question

2003-10-16 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Thursday, October 16, 2003, 9:13:55 PM, you wrote:

>> If you've forgotten your Homburg then, as far as I remember, you can also use
>> both the mlu and the self-timer on the LX.

> The one thing you _can't_ do on an LX.  I remember being flabbergasted
> when I wanted to and realised I couldn't.  The lever goes in opposite
> directions for the two operations...

well, what a lousy camera. Makes me glad mine were nicked .

I thought you could do this:

Lift & lock the mirror. This made the lever loose from the 'neutral'
position in the direction of the lens mouth, but you could still pull
it away from the mouth to crank up the self-timer.

Perhaps I'm thinking of something else. I've never used a self-timer for
anything other than mucking around, and rarely used MLU.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



CLA for K50mm

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
Today I spoke to a chap at Asahi Photo in Wembley (London) and he quoted
me £47 to CLA a K50mm f/1.2 lens. It works fine but is full of dust. The
price includes tax and return postage, with I thought was fairly reasonable.

Had an LX CLA'd by them previously and I was happy.

www.asahiphoto.net




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Re: Digital vs Film observation

2003-10-16 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Vic,

I was walking by your (now) ~least~ favourite camera store (their discount 
outlet around the corner on Queen St., downtown), and they've got F4 bodies 
going for around $1000 Cdn.  They looked minty.  That's cheaper than F3's, 
for some reason.

The F4 is a Pretty Damned Good body, especially for that price.  If I had 
Nikon lenses...

cheers,
frank


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Funny you say that. I was just at my favourite camera store and the owner 
was
telling me about a customer who brought in two mint F3s motor drives a slew
of excellent lenses etc. Stuff that cost about $10,000. Lucky to get $2,000 
for
it. The sad thing is, this stuff still takes just as good pictures as it 
did
when it was worth $10,000. It's a great time to pick up real bargains,
especially old Nikons and Canon... but even Pentax especially K and M 
lenses...
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Re: Digital vs Film observation

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>I'd be curious to know how many who have a DSLR really use their film
>bodies anymore.  Outside of wide angle issues I suspect that very few
>really do.

Not even with wide angle issues. I can go down to 22mm which is plenty
wide for me.

Haven't shot film in a year. No regrets, either. Times change.


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Re: Da Cubbies

2003-10-16 Thread frank theriault
C'mon, Paul,

You've got the Dead Things in Hockey, at least.

They don't call it HockeyTown (tm) for nothing!  

cheers,
frank


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fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Da Cubbies
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:56:07 -0400
I am jealous, but wait until next year:-)

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Re: Autopug hiccup

2003-10-16 Thread frank theriault
Hey, Jostein,

I submitted two (one for next month, too - ain't I efficient?) last night, 
being Wednesday night at about 11:30 EST.

Got auto-replies for both of them.  At least I think they were auto-replies. 
 Maybe you did them manually (if so, great job on making them look like the 
real thing).

Just thought you might want to know...

cheers,
frank


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fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Autopug hiccup
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:24:19 +0200
Hi, gang.

Currently, the confirmation emails are not being sent out when you submit
pictures through autopug. This is because the mail account has been moved 
to
another server, and I need to reconfigure the scripts generating the email.
I will look into this asap, but please keep submitting in the meantime.
Confirmations will be sent out manually, if need be.

cheers
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Re: 5 days to pug deadline

2003-10-16 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Steve,

As opposed to "this is my Front Yard" from Bill Owens?  

cheers,
frank


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fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That's what Optios are for.   I wonder if we're in for a whole seies of
last minute "this is my backyard" photos.
Steve (with the non-functional scanner)


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Re: 5 days to pug deadline

2003-10-16 Thread frank theriault
Hey, Dave,

All's you have to do is "Cottify" your DigiNikon, and set it up to take m42. 
 You've got a Spotty, right?  You must have some screwmount left.

Necessity is the Mother of Invention.

cheers,
frank


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hey,these guys will have it easy now.Us scanner folk have all the work to 
do.

Dave(scanning tonight)Brooks


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Re: *ist D, raw, proofs

2003-10-16 Thread Leon Altoff
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:02:46 -0700 (PDT), alex wetmore wrote:

>Has anyone figured out a good way to use the Pentax Photo Lab to
>generate JPEG proofs of your photographs when you shoot in raw?

>You can do a batch conversion by starting the Photo Lab application
>standalone and opening a bunch of files.  The problem is that it saves
>the JPEGs with an insanely high quality setting (higher than JPEG ***
>on the camera, I'm getting 6-7mb files).  Ideally I'd like to have it
>scale the image to 50% and save it as a medium quality JPEG.  These
>would just be used for cataloging the images and putting them on the
>web.

I load the files into Photo Lab from Photo Browser rather than as a
stand alone, that way you can see exactly what images you are loading. 
just select the files you want and click on the Photo Lab icon and they
all load in.

I generally set the image how I want it and then save as a 16 bit tiff
and then do final editing in Photoshop before saving.  I also have a
lot of macros set up in Photoshop so I can make common changes at the
touch of a button.

If you want to simply compress the Photo Lab jpegs then you can try a
program like Xat (from www.xat.com).  It compresses files well without
too much loss.

>For images that I'd like to print or do some heavier editting on this
>would leave me with the original RAW files.  There are many advantages
>to working directly with RAW (editing exposure and saturation after
>the fact is wonderful), but I haven't figured out a way to do so that
>isn't cumbersome.

>The utility "dcraw" now has the ability to read *ist D RAW files too,
>but it can't read the white balance setting from them so it's default
>rendering looks terrible.

I'm hoping that someone will write a Photoshop plugin, and that ACDSee
(which Pentax have used in the past) will soon be able to read istD RAW
files.  For the time being I can cope with the cumbersomeness I have to
deal with.


 Leon

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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-16 Thread Bill Owens
IIRC, the European and North American plates are separating at about 1
inch/year, and the Rocky Mountains are still growing due to subduction of
the Pacific plate beneath the Western North American plate.  Pal, correct me
if I'm wrong.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: *IstD price in Italy


>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > How high do they have to climb to the beach (grin)?
> >
>
> Strictly speaking, the "geological" formations in Netherlands are mostly
> sediments, IOW a very recent formation. Not very old at all. More like a
> mountain waiting to happen, really.
>
> g, d, & r
>
> Jostein
>
>




November autopug submissions so far

2003-10-16 Thread Jostein
Hi, gang.
Here's a list over all the people with successfully registered pictures in
the Autopug for November.
As of 2003-10-16 at 20:00 GMT. The list does NOT include those who have
submitted by email to Adelheid.

If you have submitted via Autopug and can't find your name on the list,
please drop me an email.

Cheers,
Jostein

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Alan Chan
Albano Garcia
Amy Jo Patey
André Albano
Andrew Wong
BigButt
Bill Sawyer
Bob Tait
Chris Murray
Cotty
Daniel Auger
Danton Villas Boas
Derby Chang
Don Williams
E.R.N. Reed
frank theriault
Fred Widall
Frits J. Wuthrich
Gerald Lewis
HAMICHE Samir
Harald Rust
Jan van Wijk
John F. Ciesla
John Francis
Joseph Tainter
Kenneth Waller
Mark Stringer
Martin Mielke
Max McRae
Ollen Mullis
Partho
Paul Rojkov
Paul Stenquist
Richard Gardner
Ryan Lee
Sandor Lueff
Stephen Pruetz
Steve Larson
Steven Desjardins
Sylwester Pietrzyk
Toni Lankerd
Wessel Sijl
Willaim Robb

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Re: Da Cubbies

2003-10-16 Thread Bill Owens
Fooled ya didn't I!

My batteries are charged, and the charger will be in the camper this
weekend.  The son-in-law and myself will be leaving around noon tomorrow for
Smith Mountain Lake in Virginia.  We're taking PDML Central for a weekend of
fishing and hunting, and, needless to say, giving the *istD a workout.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Da Cubbies


> Bill,
> You don't look a day over 91, really ;)
>
> Cory
> charged his batteries overnight and is packing his gear to go shoot race
> cars at Road Atlanta tomorrow and Saturday :)
> BTW, I've only the two 256 MB cards so I'll be editing on the fly I guess.
> I *did* buy some of that film stuff though ..
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Da Cubbies
>
>
> > Yeah, we've been saying that for 95 years now :-(
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Francis Alviar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Pentax Discuss List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:36 AM
> > Subject: re: Da Cubbies
> >
> >
> > > Man that's heartbreaking what happened to the Cubs.
> > > Not a fan per se but still I felt bad for them.  Oh
> > > well, there's always next year.
> > >
> > >
> > > Francis
> > >
> > > __
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
> > > http://shopping.yahoo.com
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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OT: Lotus Elise

2003-10-16 Thread cbwaters
Some of you were discussing the Lotus Elise a few days ago and I thought I'd
pass along that the US version is reviewed in this month's Road &Track.
It's getting a new Toyota engine with 190 bhp and 133 lb.-ft of torque...
not bad for a car weighing in at < 2K pounds.
Too bad I just bought such an expensive camera.  I guess the RX-7 will have
to do for now :)

Cory


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Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread cbwaters
Don't forget your Dremmel...
Cory
- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)


> On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
> >Seems like I will definitely have to bring the screwmount collection I
have.
>
> ..and I'll bring a small hacksaw, file, and a big grin!
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
>
>
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Re: Da Cubbies

2003-10-16 Thread cbwaters
Bill,
You don't look a day over 91, really ;)

Cory
charged his batteries overnight and is packing his gear to go shoot race
cars at Road Atlanta tomorrow and Saturday :)
BTW, I've only the two 256 MB cards so I'll be editing on the fly I guess.
I *did* buy some of that film stuff though ..
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Da Cubbies


> Yeah, we've been saying that for 95 years now :-(
>
> Bill
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Francis Alviar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax Discuss List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:36 AM
> Subject: re: Da Cubbies
>
>
> > Man that's heartbreaking what happened to the Cubs.
> > Not a fan per se but still I felt bad for them.  Oh
> > well, there's always next year.
> >
> >
> > Francis
> >
> > __
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
> > http://shopping.yahoo.com
> >
> >
>


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Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-16 Thread Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> How high do they have to climb to the beach (grin)?
>

Strictly speaking, the "geological" formations in Netherlands are mostly
sediments, IOW a very recent formation. Not very old at all. More like a
mountain waiting to happen, really.

g, d, & r

Jostein



Re: Trouble with PUG

2003-10-16 Thread Jostein
There are two possible causes. One is that this is caused when the ISP's
mailserver was moved (see my previous post "Autopug hiccup".

The other is more hypotethical...
>From time to time, some people in USA have problems with the scripts timing
out before the uploads are completed. Recently, I have come to suspect the
internet infrastructure itself to be part of this problem. My ISP is
connected to a commercial backbone that does not have special agreements
with all US network operators for priority access to their backbone.
Basically, this means that network traffic to and from my backbone will
queue up last; especially at times of high traffic.

well anyway,
I'm working on the mailserver connection. Hopefully that will fix it.

cheers,
Jostein

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Pictures at: http://oksne.net
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- Original Message - 
From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chris Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: Trouble with PUG


> Hi!
>
> CM> Is your picture under 75KB? and I think there is a limit on the number
of
> CM> characters on the filename.  I think it has to be 8 or less, and its
> CM> probably best not to have spaces in the filename either.
>
> CM> -Chris
>
> It is not that was getting error messages. All of the above conditions
> were met, still it would not get through.
>
> Boris
>



Re: Swabs and *ist D

2003-10-16 Thread alex wetmore
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
> And, the 4/3 ratio requires less cropping than the 6MP ratio
> and so the net is close to the same pixels per image.

This depends on your final image size.  If you are printing 10x8 then
that is pretty close to 4:3.  6x4 is the same ratio as 3:2 (what the
*ist D sensor is).  My largest prints are 19x13 which is also pretty
close to the 3:2 ratio.

It would be nice if more companies sold 12x8 paper which would work
perfectly with the 3:2 ratio.  For now I'm printing at 11x8.5 which is
a better match than 10x8 and means I don't need to trim the paper.

alex



Re: Long exposure question

2003-10-16 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Bob Walkden wrote:

> If you've forgotten your Homburg then, as far as I remember, you can also use
> both the mlu and the self-timer on the LX.

The one thing you _can't_ do on an LX.  I remember being flabbergasted
when I wanted to and realised I couldn't.  The lever goes in opposite
directions for the two operations...

mike



Re: *IstD price in Italy

2003-10-16 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Up to a few centimeters above sea level.


On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 21:54, graywolf wrote:
> How high do they have to climb to the beach (grin)?
> 
> 
> Jostein wrote:
> > Quoting Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > 
> >>This proves the Netherlands is much much older, since it is all worn
> >>down to less then 50 meters.
> > 
> > 
> > LOL.
> > How deep must you dig in the Netherlands to reach solid rock? :-)
> > 
> > Jostein
> > 
> > -
> > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
> > 
> > 
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Re: Digital vs Film observation

2003-10-16 Thread wendy beard
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> I'd be curious to know how many who have a DSLR really use their film
> bodies anymore. Outside of wide angle issues I suspect that very few
> really do.

For me, that's certainly the case.
Since the beginning of June when I got the digital, I have shot precisely three rolls 
of film. One B+W in the LX, one Reala in the MZ-S (it was already in the camera when I 
bought the DSLR) and this past weekend I whapped a roll of Velvia in the MZ-S just 
because I was going to go shooting trees and in case I needed the wide angle lens for 
landscape.

wendy beard
ottawa, canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com




Re: Swabs and *ist D

2003-10-16 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
The E-1 vibrates dust off the sensor every time your turn it on.
Also, the 5Mp ratio is working out well.
And, the 4/3 ratio requires less cropping than the 6MP ratio
and so the net is close to the same pixels per image.
Looks like they've got a winner with some in-between features and 
in-between price.  They're selling, though perhaps not as well as
they'd like.

CRB



RE: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Those are fighting words :-)

But as well built as they are I think they can defend themselves...

This should be an interesting trip,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:22 AM
-- 
-- On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
-- 
-- >Seems like I will definitely have to bring the screwmount 
-- collection I have.
-- 
-- ..and I'll bring a small hacksaw, file, and a big grin!
-- 
-- 
-- Cheers,
--   Cotty
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Digital vs Film observation

2003-10-16 Thread Pentxuser
CRB wrote: Since in the 60s - 80s so many Nikons were sold,
I'm seeing shelves fill up with unwanted / undesirable
F, F3, 8008, etc.  Few Canon or Pentax used bodies.
The Pentax are still being grabbed up by students.
But the Nikon outfits cost more.  So they sit and gather dust.
The only Pentax that isn't selling is a used PZ-70.  (iirc)

Funny you say that. I was just at my favourite camera store and the owner was 
telling me about a customer who brought in two mint F3s motor drives a slew 
of excellent lenses etc. Stuff that cost about $10,000. Lucky to get $2,000 for 
it. The sad thing is, this stuff still takes just as good pictures as it did 
when it was worth $10,000. It's a great time to pick up real bargains, 
especially old Nikons and Canon... but even Pentax especially K and M lenses...
Vic



Re: Long exposure question

2003-10-16 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Jordan"
Subject: Long exposure question


> Here's a conundrum. Out last night taking night shots.Arrived with tripod,
> but I'd forgotten the remote release. With the LX, I can use mirror lock
up
> or the self timer to reduce camera shake.
>
> What do people think would be the best one to use to reduce camera shake?
I
> voted for using the self timer, but would welcome other opinions.

Two ways to do it.
One is to use MLU and release the shutter directly. If you are going to do
that, put your thumb on the bottom of the camera, and your index finger on
the shutter button, and squeeze. You will impart less vibration that way.
The other way is to use the self timer and French Flag the lens.
Without a cable release, I would opt for the latter method.
The LX will support French Flagging quite nicely on auto.
Don't ask me why it's called French Flagging, I haven't a clue.

William Robb



Autopug hiccup

2003-10-16 Thread Jostein
Hi, gang.

Currently, the confirmation emails are not being sent out when you submit
pictures through autopug. This is because the mail account has been moved to
another server, and I need to reconfigure the scripts generating the email.
I will look into this asap, but please keep submitting in the meantime.
Confirmations will be sent out manually, if need be.

cheers
Jostein
-



Re: Oh What a Night!

2003-10-16 Thread wendy beard
Wednesday, October 15, 2003, 2:39:07 PM, you wrote:

PJ> A perfect night was rounded off by a bag of chips (real chips, UK style) and
PJ> a can of Vimto. Sheer bliss!

Fizzy or non-fizzy?
Damn. You shouldn't have mentioned those chips either. I can just smell those big fat 
soggy chips wrapped in paper and sprinkled liberally with salt & vinegar (Sarsons of 
course.)
Drool

wendy beard
ottawa, canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com




Re: More fun playing with the *istD

2003-10-16 Thread bucky
Only if everything stays REALLY STILL.

Quoting Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Wouldn't a 2 stop longer exposure be the equivalent of a 2 stop increase in
> speed?
> 
> Bill
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: More fun playing with the *istD
> 
> 
> > Sorry, but isn't that just a 2-stop longer exposure at ISO 3200?  It'd
> only be
> > ISO 12800 if you got the same shutter speed/aperture combination after
> dialing
> > in the +2 stops as without dialing in +2.
> >
> > Quoting Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > If you have a need to shoot in really low light
> > >
> > > Out of curiosity, I just set the *istD to ISO 3200, dialed in +2 stops
> of
> > > exposure compensation, and the camera delivered it.  ISO 12800?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
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> >
> >
> 
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Re: Da Cubbies

2003-10-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I am jealous, but wait until next year:-)

Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> You're just jealous.
> Your tems didn't stand a chance to even go this far.
> 
> CRB



Street price of *ist-D kit?

2003-10-16 Thread Juey Chong Ong
A few days ago, someone posted this URL to Hunt's listing for the  
*ist-D kit:

http://commerce5.pair.com/hunts/Merchant/ 
merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HPAV&Product_Code=2707507661&Category 
_Code=PENTAXDIGCAM

If I read the description correctly, the price of the kit is US$1,699,  
which is the same price as what most places are charging for the body  
only.

I called them to ask if they had the kit but they said it wasn't in  
stock and they could not tell me what the price was.

Who else is selling the kit?

--jc



Re: "Digital Camera Lens Optimization"

2003-10-16 Thread Keith Whaley


Harold Owen wrote:
> 
> I have just read a readers letter in the current issue of the "British
> Journal of Photography" regarding partial colour casts with certain
> lensesNikon lenses when using his Kodak DCS Pro 14n.
> 
> It was also mentioned that there is a recommended lens list for the
> camera which then allows the camera to "optimize" the lens in use
> providing it is on the list.
> 
> I was wondering if Pentax has an approved list for Pentax lenses for use
> with the *ist D?
> 
> Further information on the "Digital Camera Lens Optimization" can be
> read here:-
> 
> http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/cameras/dcsPro14n/dcsPro14nTechnology.jhtml?id=0.2.10.36.7.4.3.24.5&lc=en
> 
> No doubt the URL will need to be be pasted in two sections in order to
> access the website.

Nope. I got it open all in one line. However:

"We no longer support Netscape 4.x / Internet Explorer 4.x 
browsers. A standards-compliant web browser is required 
to view the redesigned kodak.com website.

While 96.8% of our audience uses a standards-compliant web 
browser, you appear not to be using one. 

If that's not sufficient motive, I guess I won't have far to look!
I'm getting that all over the place. Kodak was merely the most recent!

keith whaley  <== one of the 3.2% who hasn't got the word...  B ^)

> If Kodak can "optimize" lenses using the cameras software are we likely
> to see this feature being available with Pentax digital cameras, or
> Pentax issuing a list of 'approved' lenses.
> 
> I have not joined the ranks of the *ist D users yet but the input from
> them has made enjoyable reading.
> 
> Harry



RE: More fun playing with the *istD

2003-10-16 Thread Rob Brigham
What you want to do it minus 3 exp comp using RAW (allowing you a faster
shutter speed), and then increase the sensitivity by plus 3 in the RAW
software - 25600 ISO then!!

That's if I got my maths right?

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 16 October 2003 16:12
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: More fun playing with the *istD
> 
> 
> Sorry, but isn't that just a 2-stop longer exposure at ISO 
> 3200?  It'd only be 
> ISO 12800 if you got the same shutter speed/aperture 
> combination after dialing 
> in the +2 stops as without dialing in +2.
> 
> Quoting Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > If you have a need to shoot in really low light
> > 
> > Out of curiosity, I just set the *istD to ISO 3200, dialed 
> in +2 stops 
> > of exposure compensation, and the camera delivered it.  ISO 12800?
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
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> 
> 



Re: NYC landscapes (was: feature for digital camera)

2003-10-16 Thread moesg
I agree, I grew up in the western part of NJ, it was very nice place to live.

Geoff
 
> Obviously you are not familiar with the state.
> Try looking in the north west part or the southern tip or the southern
> shore. It's true N.J. has an industrial rap, but don't judge the entire
> state by that.
> Try it you might like it.
> 
> Michigan Kenneth Waller who use to live in N.J.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "arnie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:10 PM
> Subject: Re: NYC landscapes (was: feature for digital camera)
> 
> 
> > ha, new jersey. the most populated state in the union, try finding a
> scenic
> > view there. the only gardens in the garden state are the ones used to hide
> > the smoke stacks.
> >
> > arnie
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bruce Rubenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: NYC landscapes (was: feature for digital camera)
> >
> >
> > > Oy! Looking for natural stuff in NYC is like going to the Grand Canyon
> to
> > > take pictures of kids playing stick ball in the gutter...
> > > Here goes: There's Cental Park in Manhattan and Prospect Park in
> Brooklyn,
> > > along with the Brooklyn and Bronx Botanic Gardens anda patch of grass in
> > my
> > > back yard. The closest thing to a mountain in NYC is the garbage dump in
> > the
> > > Great Kills section of Staten Island. All the bodies of water are either
> > man
> > > made, or have funny stuff floating in them. I think that you really want
> > to
> > > go to New Jersey.
> > >
> > > BR
> > >
> > > From: "arnie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > lanscapes, foliage, lakes, rivers - natural stuff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 




Re: Old lenses, *istD, and the Pentax Mad Scientists

2003-10-16 Thread b_rubenstein
This is not true. The only lens like this is the very cheap zoom that was 
introduced along with the 300D. All their other lenses are fully EF 
compatible.

BR

From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Canon's solution to this, is to make dedicated wide-angles for the models 
with 
less than full-size chips. With rear elements that protrude further into the 
camera house than ordinary lenses. Because the mirror is smaller, there's 
room. They have even ensured that those lenses are physically incompatible 
with any full-size chip/film cameras.



Re: *ist-D in DPReview Pentax Forum

2003-10-16 Thread Mark Roberts
"Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Some people seem to be quite happy dropping US$1700 on a new camera body and 
>hanging a slow, cheap US$100 zoom on it.  Amazing.  In a way, Pentax seems 
>to be encouraging this kind of behavior by creating a mediocre "kit lens" to 
>go with the *ist-D. 

Oh $deity, I hope, hope, hope, hope that Pentax is sending the *ist-D
out to reviewers with good lenses (preferably at least one Limited),
rather than just the cheapo zooms.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: More fun playing with the *istD

2003-10-16 Thread Bill Owens
Wouldn't a 2 stop longer exposure be the equivalent of a 2 stop increase in
speed?

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: More fun playing with the *istD


> Sorry, but isn't that just a 2-stop longer exposure at ISO 3200?  It'd
only be
> ISO 12800 if you got the same shutter speed/aperture combination after
dialing
> in the +2 stops as without dialing in +2.
>
> Quoting Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > If you have a need to shoot in really low light
> >
> > Out of curiosity, I just set the *istD to ISO 3200, dialed in +2 stops
of
> > exposure compensation, and the camera delivered it.  ISO 12800?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
>




Re: Old lenses, *istD, and the Pentax Mad Scientists

2003-10-16 Thread John Francis
> 
> UPDATE:
> 
> The basic mod is pretty simple -- changing M to A.
> And you don't have to modify anyting.
> 
> 1)  set the lens to the minimum aperture.  f22, etc.
> 2)  short the A pin to the body or lens.  Use a piece of foil or 32 awg wire.
> 
> Without the lens information pins you'll not get matrix metering but you will get 
> automatic modes of operation.

Unfortunately you will get automatically wrongly-exposed images.

The aperture actuator is designed for an "A" lens, and will *not*
stop a "K" or "M" lens down to the correct setting; theresponse
of the mechanisms is different.

My calculations haven't been confirmed yet, but I believe the
error will always be to over-expose (which is bad for digital).
It will be by less than a stop at wide apertures, but the error
will increase as the lens is asked to stop down further.  The
maximum exposure error depends critically on the exact motion,
which I haven't measured, but looks like well over two stops.



*ist-D in DPReview Pentax Forum

2003-10-16 Thread Mark Erickson
Hi all, 

I've been lurking in the DPReview Pentax forum.  It's an interesting read.  
It looks like a number of brand-agnostic folks have compared the *ist-D 
head-to-head against the Canon 10D and Nikon D100 and have chosen the 
*ist-D.  This, along with the reviews that are being published, tells me 
that Pentax has a good shot of capturing significant market share in the 
DSLR business.  The DSLR world is a great chance for a fresh start for 
Pentax;  many DSLR buyers look to be moving up from cameras like the Canon G 
series and Sony F series.  They aren't bringing old-school-photographer 
prejudices with them.  Yeah, the K/M series issue is a drag, but how many of 
us do they have to worry about? 

On the other hand, some things haven't changed at all in the digital world.  
Some people seem to be quite happy dropping US$1700 on a new camera body and 
hanging a slow, cheap US$100 zoom on it.  Amazing.  In a way, Pentax seems 
to be encouraging this kind of behavior by creating a mediocre "kit lens" to 
go with the *ist-D. 

I'm not dropping the $$$ yet, but I anticipate that I will eventually.  
Anybody hang a *ist-D on the back of a big lens like a 500mm or 600mm beast? 
Seems like that would be the ultimate Pentax wildlife setup 

--Mark



Phase 1

2003-10-16 Thread tom
Just got an email from Phase 1 saying that they're releasing a version
of Capture 1 DSLR for the Canon 300D.

Any rumor on a version for the istD?

tv





Re: Oh What a Night!

2003-10-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Wonderful to hear about something besides *ist D for a change!  Glad
the LX provided that much satisfaction.

---
Bruce


Wednesday, October 15, 2003, 2:39:07 PM, you wrote:

PJ> Mid October in 2003,
PJ> What a very special thing for me,
PJ> What a camera, what a night.

PJ> OK, that's enough bad rip off lyrics, but I'm on an absolute high. Mid
PJ> October brings a huge travelling fairground to Hull in the UK, and I've just
PJ> spent a fantastic evening and about 6 rolls of Velvia making the most of it.

PJ> What was special about it? It cured me of my *istD envy. I'm really wedded
PJ> to my LXen, but tonight not only did they feel and handle as wonderfully as
PJ> ever, but the metering system will guarantee lots of perfectly exposed
PJ> trannies.

PJ> I know this because the trusty LX did just that last year, coping with night
PJ> shots of all the usual funfair attractions. To say that the fair presents
PJ> exposure challenges for normal cameras is a total understatement, but the LX
PJ> rises to the occasion, dealing with strobes flashing on and off, lighted
PJ> carousels whizzing into the frame and all the other variables that would
PJ> result in rolls of wrongly exposed film with a lesser camera.

PJ> An added bonus this year was my newish  (to me) 20mm f/2.8, which is a
PJ> brilliant lens. Still getting used to it, but it really is a brilliant pin
PJ> sharp lens which gives a fantastic perspective. That and my 35 - 105 were
PJ> all I needed for the night.

PJ> A perfect night was rounded off by a bag of chips (real chips, UK style) and
PJ> a can of Vimto. Sheer bliss!


PJ> Peter





Re: Oh What a Night!

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>A perfect night was rounded off by a bag of chips (real chips, UK style) and
>a can of Vimto. 

You're a sick lad Peter. I bet you like Marmite as well ;-)

(Vimto, in case a few hundred bewildered readers didn't know, is a
mystical concoction dating back to just about WWII if I'm not mistaken,
and tastes like it! Commonly referred to by chips-toting Yorkshiremen as
'pop' [viz: "Eeh 'ek lad, go an fetch me a bottle a pop"], it is
basically a carbonated fruit drink. Unfortunately, after decades of
scientific analysis, nobody has quite yet decided exactly which fruit it is.)

Besides, Irn Bru is tons better and made from girders!!!

Glad you had a good time


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Re: More fun playing with the *istD

2003-10-16 Thread bucky
Sorry, but isn't that just a 2-stop longer exposure at ISO 3200?  It'd only be 
ISO 12800 if you got the same shutter speed/aperture combination after dialing 
in the +2 stops as without dialing in +2.

Quoting Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> If you have a need to shoot in really low light
> 
> Out of curiosity, I just set the *istD to ISO 3200, dialed in +2 stops of
> exposure compensation, and the camera delivered it.  ISO 12800?
> 
> Bill
> 
> 




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Re: Swabs and *ist D

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>> Although only Kodak and Fuji have said its ok to use the swabs and
>cleaning fluid on their
>> sensors,
>> Nikon(and i suppose Pentax as its new)have not endorsed the product.
>
>Pentax sez to just use a brushless blower to clean the CCD.

You guys know me by now. I'll give almost anything a go. I'm the last
person on the planet to read the instructions, usually as the detritus
that was once something in perfectly good working order lays around me.
However, the one thing that I would not entertain is using anything other
than a blower brush *without the brush attached* on a DSLR sensor. That
is, a rubber blower.

Canon's official line is only to use a blower - of the kind that pumps
air through a rubber chamber using the fingers to pump it. They
specifically warn against using any commercially available cleaning
sprays or blower sprays, claiming that the pressure and freezing action
of the spray gas may damage the surface of the imaging element.

They don't say anything about swabs in my manual. Personally I would not
use anything that depended on contact with the sensor.

.02


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Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread Bill Owens
> Hmmm, first he takes my bed, now he is going to be taking non-nature
shots.
> Good thing I don't have a girlfriend... :-)

Look on the bright side.  You've still got a bed, and be thankful he's not
taking your bed and girlfriend at the same time

> Definitely looking forward to the what looks to be a great PDML gathering
at
> GFM!!!

Yeah, it's going to be a real hoot!

> But can overlook it all for a few gottles of geer;

I'll drink to that!

Bill




More fun playing with the *istD

2003-10-16 Thread Bill Owens
If you have a need to shoot in really low light

Out of curiosity, I just set the *istD to ISO 3200, dialed in +2 stops of
exposure compensation, and the camera delivered it.  ISO 12800?

Bill




RE: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>Seems like I will definitely have to bring the screwmount collection I have.

..and I'll bring a small hacksaw, file, and a big grin!


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Re: Ebay emails OT

2003-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>For several days now i have received emails claiming to be from
>ebay and that
>they need to verify my account.
>Its signed "the ebay team"
>
>I have not responded and deleted them.These are the fake ones correct. 

I had one or two in the past. The email address they come from is always
something like 'ebayadmin.com' or something, and are totally bogus.
Forward them to the real eBay (as I did) who were very grateful to
receive them




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