Re: Another Venue for Enablement

2005-03-16 Thread Peter Smekal
Thanksfor your help Marco,

sound like the perfect pastime for the Easter holidays!!
Peter

On Mar 15, 2005, at 11:07 PM, Peter Smekal wrote:

 Hhhmmm ... how did you get registered? ... just curious

Persistence. For those interested in actually registering and bidding,
the following may be of help.

-Marco
===

- You do not have to live in Japan to register as a user. Some
persistent trial and error with a web translator will do the trick.

- Although most auctions specify Seller will not ship
internationally, in fact, many will if you ask them politely in
Japanese (close to 80% of the sellers I ask say yes).

- Yikes! you may be thinking, How do I ask in Japanese? Well, with
the help of a Japanese-speaking friend, I created a communication
construction kit that will handle virtually all of the communications
necessary to bid, win and negotiate the payment and delivery of an
item. You can find it here:

http://www.alpert.com/yahoo_auction_kit.html

You'll need to have your browser set up to display Japanese characters
to
see it properly.

- Pretty much everyone who says yes will accept an International Postal
Money Order for payment.

A note on translating the registration pages: Page-based translators
won't work on pages that require log-in or are generated by scripts.
(this includes the later pages you will encounter in the auction
registration process). For those sorts of pages you have to manually
paste the hunks of text into a text translator. The one I use is here:

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/text/

Paste the Japanese characters into the left hand box, click the bottom
of the two sets of characters with an arrow in the middle box (that
selects Japanese to English translation), and click the button with the
orange border. The translated text will appear in the right hand box.

Also, don't try inputting your data into a page displayed in a page
translator. Keep two browser windows open: one the original Japanese
page and the other the translated page. Read from the translated page,
but enter your data into the original page.

There's a fair amount of trail and error involved (especially when you
get to the pages where you input an address and other assorted stuff),
but persistence will pay off.

One thing to keep in mind is that you have to have a credit card # on
file with them in order to bid. They charge the card about $2.90 a
month for months in which you make bids. This was supposed to increase
security for auction participants, but personally I think it was a
response to Yahoo!'s then-sagging revenues.





Re: D645 Prediction

2005-03-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Rob Studdert wrote on 16.03.05 1:32:

 I predict that if and when Pentax actually get a D645 body to market Canon
 will 
 before if not very soon after release a full frame 18MP body at a very
 attractive price point which will be near half the price point of the Pentax
 D645. In the interim Pentax will be no closer to production of a full frame
 35mm DSLR and APS DSLR development will remain stagnant.
Well, price point of 645D is not known yet. However from various rumours
that we heard before, I think it won't be more expensive than Canon's FF
35mm. It was somewhere around 5000-7000USD (seems too low to be true ;-) If
that would be case I think there will be a lot of photographers who'd buy
it. But of course we'll have to wait for official annoucement.

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Takumar aperture calibration ?

2005-03-16 Thread Niko Koskela
Well, that tortuous loop has come to its end. I just had to try once 
more. And that did it, now it works as it should. I am not quite sure 
what was it that i made differently, but on that last disassembly i 
fiddled with the focusing helicoid and it´s bronze coloured counterpart...

Thanks for your tip anyway Rob, i´ll keep that in mind when i have to 
take also the aperture mech out of the lens !

Niko


Re: A couple lens opinions wanted.

2005-03-16 Thread Andy Chang
From the recent Ebay activity, the 2 lenses you want to sell may fetch 
a pretty good price... :)

Personally, really don't like the flare control of Sigma lenses...
Cheers
Andy
Thibouille said:
I saw:
A sigma 70-210 at 70 euros and a 100-300 at 95 euros in a shop. Of
course these are probably DC versions but are they acceptable lenses ?
What would be the value of an FA 50mm 1.7 and a M 50mm 1.4 ?
Consider selling but not sure yet ...
 

Thibouille





Re: Takumar aperture calibration ?

2005-03-16 Thread Alan Chan
--- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't know about this particular lens but if you removed the aperture mech 
 from the lens body for immersion cleaning then you need to make sure that it 
 was returned and secured in precisely the same position. If the aperture mech 
 is rotated to a different point then the aperture may not fully close or 
 fully 
 open. If you didn't mark the position during disassembly then you may have to 
 experiment in order to determine the correct position, unfortunately this 
 requires a tortuous loop of assembly, testing and disassembly :-(

My own way of doing it is to set the aperture blades just fully opened at max
aperture, then stop down to inspect for evenness. It may not be 100% precise (no
such thing btw according to the service manual), but wouldn't be too far off. 
This
is especially true consider there is quite a variation when the lenses are set 
to
'A'. So if the loose tolerance DA/FAJ lenses were considered fine, you should 
have
no problem to employ this method in practice. But now lenses can be tested on 
D/DS
directly, re-adjust should be a breeze.

Alan Chan
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Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread David Savage
So that's what Fred's up to :-)

Dave S


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:54:36 +, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Wednesday, March 16, 2005, 2:38:32 AM, Fred wrote:
 
  The discussion regarding who would buy the new D645 made me wonder how
  much you folk spend on your career/hobby/addiction.
 
 People might want to think twice about publishing the value of their
 equipment on a list for every burglar on the internet to read. Knowing
 most people's names, and roughly where you live, it wouldn't be
 difficult to find your address and come and do a bit of 'shopping'.
 
 --
 Cheers,
 Bob
 




Re: Takumar aperture calibration ?

2005-03-16 Thread Alan Chan
--- Niko Koskela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, that tortuous loop has come to its end. I just had to try once 
 more. And that did it, now it works as it should. I am not quite sure 
 what was it that i made differently, but on that last disassembly i 
 fiddled with the focusing helicoid and it´s bronze coloured counterpart...

It is important to realize that the aperture blades aren't accurate by turning 
the
aperture ring slowly. You have to flip the lever at every stop to see the 
actual differences.

Alan Chan
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Re: D645 Prediction

2005-03-16 Thread dagt
 fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Rob Studdert wrote on 16.03.05 1:32:
 
  I predict that if and when Pentax actually get a D645 body to market Canon
  will 
  before if not very soon after release a full frame 18MP body at a very
  attractive price point which will be near half the price point of the Pentax
  D645. In the interim Pentax will be no closer to production of a full frame
  35mm DSLR and APS DSLR development will remain stagnant.

 Well, price point of 645D is not known yet. However from various rumours
 that we heard before, I think it won't be more expensive than Canon's FF
 35mm. It was somewhere around 5000-7000USD (seems too low to be true ;-) If
 that would be case I think there will be a lot of photographers who'd buy
 it. But of course we'll have to wait for official annoucement.

I'm not sure that I'd want a full frame camera, mainly because of the problems 
with vignetting with wide angles.

Take a look at Bjørn Rørsletts comparison between Nikon D2X and Canon 1Ds mkII 
on this page
http://www.naturfotograf.com/D2X_rev06.html
especially the vignetting problems.

They've proved that it is possible to make good wide angles for smaller 
sensors, and the noise characteristics of sensors like Canon 20D is very good 
(as well as the new 12MP sensor of Nikon), so you get enough pixels from the 
APS size sensor to match the 135 film.

If you want good quality from larger sensors and wide angles a 645 system is 
better than a full frame system. In addition you can get even larger sensors.

DagT




Re: what about 24

2005-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 15, 2005, at 1:49 PM, pancho hasselbach wrote:
I just came across an offer for an K 3.5/24. Has anybody compared it 
directly to the A 2.8/24? I own the latter, and I think that, apart 
from it's other qualities, it tends to a slight barrel distortion.
Unfortunately, someone on Stan's site said the 3.5/24 shows _no_ 
distortion.
I only have experience of the A24/2.8 and I like it a lot on the DS. 
Distortion seems quite low, certainly non-critical for my use of this 
focal length, and it's contrasty and sharp. Rendering is very good too.

Godfrey


Re: 18.6 MP 645 announcement

2005-03-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Frantisek wrote on 16.03.05 0:52:

 I wonder about the extra large sensor and only 18.6 MP. It could
 mean the noise would be well controled, perhaps quite better than the
 22MP backs so far.
Let's hope it will be better than Kodak's CMOS sensor used in DCS-14x
models. It wasn't too good noise-wise.

 OTOH that puts it in competition with EOS 1DsII, so
 it better have ~8000$ price
645D was rumoured to cost around 5000-7000 USD so that would be very good
price for digital MF. And it is not so unlikely if you consider that Kodak's
FF DCS-14 bodies that uses either F80 or SD-10 body as base (so they must
buy it from someone else) sell for abut 4000$.

 and some darn fast AF...
I think it will use AF sensor array as used in *istD/Ds. So they better
improve its low-ligt performance, otherwise it will be just some darn slow
AF ;-)

 If not, I would
 share Rob's scepticism. Although, I am not a sceptic. I just laughed
 at all the threads on dpreview about D2X vs 1DSII.
Both are great cameras. I wish Pentax could produce *istD succesor with
12MPix sensor as used in D2X. And AF performance at level of D2X would be
nice too ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: PESO apricot blossoms

2005-03-16 Thread Peter Lacus
Francis,
We have a lovely bouquet of apricot blossoms in our kitchen right now.
http://www.photosynth.ca/photo/f/apricot-blossoms.html
Taken with Kodak ps while shining a blue LED flash light at it.
cool idea that blue LED lighting. On my display they do look somewhat 
dark but nothing too dramatic. I like both of them.

Bedo.


Re: D645 Prediction

2005-03-16 Thread Alin Flaider

  The larger sensor (38x50mm?) has pixels almost twice as big (in
  area) and should have better signal to noise performance than 1 DS2,
  and that will put 645d in different league and command a higher
  price. That is, if Kodak does its homework.

  Otherwise, sadly the 35 mm full frame from Pentax is as likely as
  US signing the Kyoto agreement. Oh well, maybe the 20D viewfinder is
  not that bad? I should have another look...
 
  Servus,  Alin

Rob wrote:

RS I predict that if and when Pentax actually get a D645 body to market Canon 
will
RS before if not very soon after release a full frame 18MP body at a very
RS attractive price point which will be near half the price point of the Pentax
RS D645. In the interim Pentax will be no closer to production of a full frame
RS 35mm DSLR and APS DSLR development will remain stagnant.

RS I'd love to be proven wrong but...




Re: FS: MZ-S kit, beautiful!

2005-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 15, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Joe Wilensky wrote:
We're in the process of purchasing the minivan our growing family 
needs, and, as the purchase is coming a bit earlier than planned, it 
would really help to have a little extra cash around. So although I am 
enjoying my second brief ownership of an MZ-S, complete with BG-10 
grip and instruction manual, I fear it will have to be sold. ...
Price for PDML: $525 for the kit, includes shipping in the continental 
U.S.
If I were intent on shooting film anymore, I'd grab this in a 
heartbeat. But I'm watching my pennies ... I will need the dosh for 
another digital body in the relatively near future.

Godfrey


Re: *istD creation/modification dates

2005-03-16 Thread John Forbes
Macs consider that history began on 1 January 1904, whereas Windows thinks  
it began on 1 January 1900.  That explains why your Mac is saying  
31/12/03.  There is no date recorded in the field, and rather than display  
nothing, the Mac goes back to the dawn of time.

John
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:23:24 -0500 (EST), John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Tom Lesser mused:
When I use the finder on my Mac (OS X) to open the DCIM  100PENTX
folder on a CF card shot in my *istD,  and select a RAW file in list
view, the column headed Date Modified shows the actual date and time
that the photo was shot;  the column headed Date Created says Dec
31, 1903 ... I would have expected Date Created to show the date
and time the photo was shot, and the Date Modified to be empty or
show the actual creation date, too.
Date Created should show when the file was created.  This could be
set from an existing file, if copied, or it would reflect the date
that the file was imported into the system.
Date Modified reflects when the contents of the file were modifed.
The two dates start off the same on the CF card (and if I look at
the files using a file browser on Windows I see that).  If the Mac
shows something different in the file browser, It's probably a
MAC problem.
Dec 31, 1903 is too early a date to have a meaningful representation
on most computer file systems.  I suspect this really means I don't  
know

In the Metadata panel of Photoshop CS, before you select an image in
the browser, the fields available are Date Created and Date
Modified,  but when you select a RAW image, the Date Created field
disappears completely, and the Date Modified shows the actual
creation date  time.
Presumably Photoshop is trying to do something clever and get the
image creation date from the EXIF data.  Unfortunately it's trying
to be too clever - it doesn't know how to get data from RAW files.
(I assume you *do* have the appropriate version of ACR installed)
Photoshop Elements 3.0 on Windows shows the correct metadata.
If you select a RAW file from the finder and do a Get Info command,
the Info window shows two dashes -- in the Created field, and shows
the actual date and time the photo was made in the Modified field.
That's probably another way of saying I don't know
Re: JPG files, Photoshop Browser shows correct Created and Modified
dates/times, as do the Finder window and Get Info window.
So Photoshop does know how to get the data from the JPEG files.
That's not really surprising - several file browsers know that.
Why are dates and times wrong for RAW files?  Is it a Pentax issue, a
Mac issue, or a Photoshop issue?
Looks like a Mac and/or Photoshop problem.



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PAW: People Portraits #12

2005-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Slim pickin's this week: I'm in the midst of packing up stuff for
moving, fixing all the vehicles and getting them ready for the move,
etc. I liked the light on this people shot, though...
   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/12.htm
comments always appreciated.
Godfrey


Re: 67 Lens to Pentax 35mm K-Mount Body Adapter

2005-03-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

PS  How do you pronounce *ist?

Rhymes with 'heist'  ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Pentax News

2005-03-16 Thread Jostein
Quoting Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hmm, This latest PENTAX digital advancement will be showcased under glass,
 hopefully it will stay there just like the MZ-D did.

After the MZ-D, I'd be surprised if they dare repeating that blunder.

OTOH, I don't think this camera will be on the usual assembly line. According to
my local Pentax person (I was not allowed to say so until the press release),
this will be a camera to be produced on demand rather than in batches based on
expected sales. He also said that there will be options for personal
customization of each camera, but he had no details on potential parameters.

IMO, this camera sounds like a beast to battle the Hasselblad/Imacon H1 and will
probably be priced thereafter too.

Shucks. :-(

Jostein


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Re: OT: Perhaps There Is A God After All

2005-03-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/3/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Not Easter weekend, but still, I'm happy.  Actually, this is good,
because I can spend Easter with my two younger kids, then two weeks
later visit my eldest.  I think it's better this way.

I just thought I'd share...

Good news Frank - enjoy your trip and let's see some pics




Cheers,
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Re: So who else shoots one handed?

2005-03-16 Thread Peter Lacus
Frank,
As an example, here's a PESO from a while back.  No time for
viewfinders or two hands on the camera.  My youngest, Claire, sucking
on a Warhead, a candy that's excruciatingly sour for about 15
seconds, then turns sweet:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349851
this one is really cool, hehe.
Bedo.


Re: Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread m.9.wilson

 
 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 Hi,
 
 Wednesday, March 16, 2005, 2:38:32 AM, Fred wrote:
 
  The discussion regarding who would buy the new D645 made me wonder how
  much you folk spend on your career/hobby/addiction.
 
 People might want to think twice about publishing the value of their
 equipment on a list for every burglar on the internet to read. Knowing
 most people's names, and roughly where you live, it wouldn't be
 difficult to find your address and come and do a bit of 'shopping'.

I would quite like to see what happened to anyone who tried a bit of personal 
shopping at the WRobb department store 8-)
But I agree with your sentiment.
BTW, thanks for the information you sent the other day.  For the last three 
days, I have downloaded mail in the morning and not had time to read it 8-(  
Just the occasional few minutes at work.

mike

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Re: Used Dslr

2005-03-16 Thread Frantisek
Eac Egad, what a horrible idea.

Eac I also notice you volunteered someone else's D/DS. ;-)

;-)

I would offer my DSLR in a heartbeat, bu you see, it's a Nikon, that
test would be meaningless... I am so sorry ;-)

Good light!
   fra



Re: PAW: Keep Your Eyes on the Road

2005-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 14, 2005, at 4:02 PM, frank theriault wrote:
...and your hands upon the wheel:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3196973size=lg
Nice, although it would be better for me if I didn't have this sense of 
imminent disaster since he isn't looking where he's going... ;-)

Godfrey


Re: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm guessing it will be much less. The digital market is still evolving.
To be successful, Pentax will have to price under the Canon 1DS Mark II.
I think they'll find a way to do it.

Perhaps by using lots of plastic. There is a reason that cameras destined
for heavy use are expensive, right Paul? Pentax can only sacrifice so
much in terms of quality before it becomes self-defeating.




Cheers,
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Re: 12-24 DA Lens announcement

2005-03-16 Thread Frantisek
JF I think you'll find that's a FA-J 18-55.
Oops/

JF There is some speculation on the dpreview forums that this lens is
JF a variant of the Tokina 12-24 (presumably with Pentax SMC add-ons).

Hm. I somewhat doubt it, but speculation is endless...

I have tested the Tokina, and it is as most Tokinas. Mechanically
excellent, optically so so. I wanted to buy it but now I don't know...
the lens was not really critically sharp. Not bad but not comparable
to say excellent 28-70/2.6-2.8 zoom. I will try few more and see
if there's a difference.

Good light!
   fra



Re: Full Frame DSLR

2005-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 14, 2005, at 4:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most of the modern Leica ultrawides are retrofocus design anyway, like
the Elmarit-M 21 and 24mm lenses.
Hello Godfrey,
fancy meeting you here :-)
Photographers and equipment junkies float on the same waters... ;-)
I didn't know that about the modern Leica wides. This list has been 
quite
educational so far.
Yes, the Pentaxians are an informative lot. I've learned a lot about 
Pentax gear in the scant three months since I bought the *ist DS.

Godfrey


Re: Had to play a bit-Was 322RC2 ballhead

2005-03-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:

To get an idea of it's size and 'beefy-ness'
here it is with Bogen 3001 legs and the ist-D:

http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Grip.jpg

I can see the brake, but where's the throttle??




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Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread John Whittingham
 The discussion regarding who would buy the new D645 made me wonder 
 how much you folk spend on your career/hobby/addiction.

Obviously not enough because I'm still looking for stuff :)

John 

-- Original Message ---
From: Fred Widall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:38:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

 The discussion regarding who would buy the new D645 made me wonder 
 how much you folk spend on your career/hobby/addiction.
 
 I consider photography my main hobby, but being on the fugual side of
 miserly, I calculate that my total expenditure for equipment over 
 the past twenty  years is approx. US$4000. Take away my two digital cameras
 (*istDS  Optio 33LF) and its closer to US$2500. Of course I don't
 make my living at this, nor do I consider myself an expert 
 photographer, but I do have fun with the equipment I have.
 
 I think I can confidently say that I will not be buying a D645 !!
 
 Just curious.
 
 --
  Fred Widall,
  Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall
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Re: Pentax News

2005-03-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Mar 15, 2005, at 10:44 PM, William Robb wrote:
If they go the 645 route for their pro line digital cameras, it 
would be consistent with the company's strategy of
35mm for amateurs, medium format for professionals.
I don't necessarily see that as a minus for advanced amateurs or 
part-time pros. It makes the 35mm equipment more affordable. I may go 
to 645 if it's somewhat affordable, but I would certainly want to 
continue with APS DSLR in any case. I think we can look forward to an 
advanced amateur camera with 10 to 12 megapixel sensor, high speed 
buffer, and compact packaging. It would be the MZ-S or PZ-1P or the 
DSLR world. Close to pro level specs, but still affordable. I see no 
reason for despair. But, then again, despair is what we do best :-).
Paul



Re: first *istD casualty?

2005-03-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Make sure you have fresh batteries in the camera. I've experienced a 
wide range of odd behavior with low voltage batteries.
Paul
On Mar 15, 2005, at 10:58 PM, Tan and Steve wrote:

Well, she's given up the ghost!  My poor baby is off to the shop after
17,000 or so frames cause her aperture control won't work anymore! 
boohoo...

I can change shutter speed but the only way to change the aperture is 
by
emptying out the batteries and restarting the camera - not exactly an
efficient way to shoot a wedding!

Any suggestions for a quick fix before I ship her out?
tan. :)
Tanya Mayer Photography
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247



Re: Pentax News

2005-03-16 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
And now at last it comes. (...) In place of the Dark Lord you will
set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as
the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow
upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger
than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!

It just crossed my mind... :)

Alex Sarbu

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:04:26 -0500, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
. I see no
 reason for despair. But, then again, despair is what we do best :-).
 Paul
 




Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
8x10 2-D
12 Ilex
210/5.6 Fujinon
4x5 Nagaoka
135 Ysarex
90/8 Ilex
Super Program
Winder
MX
Winder
A70-210/4
A100/2.8
FA50/1.4
A50/1.7
A35/2
K30/2.8
$1800



Re: what about 24

2005-03-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
The K 24/3.5 is very sharp and contrasty. Barrel distortion seems 
minimal for that wide a lens, but I haven't compared it to the A24/2.8.
Paul
On Mar 16, 2005, at 4:00 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Mar 15, 2005, at 1:49 PM, pancho hasselbach wrote:
I just came across an offer for an K 3.5/24. Has anybody compared it 
directly to the A 2.8/24? I own the latter, and I think that, apart 
from it's other qualities, it tends to a slight barrel distortion.
Unfortunately, someone on Stan's site said the 3.5/24 shows _no_ 
distortion.
I only have experience of the A24/2.8 and I like it a lot on the DS. 
Distortion seems quite low, certainly non-critical for my use of this 
focal length, and it's contrasty and sharp. Rendering is very good 
too.

Godfrey



Re: D645 Prediction

2005-03-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
The 20D isn't full frame. And based on the results I've seen, it's no 
better than the *istD, perhaps not as good.

On Mar 16, 2005, at 4:06 AM, Alin Flaider wrote:
  The larger sensor (38x50mm?) has pixels almost twice as big (in
  area) and should have better signal to noise performance than 1 DS2,
  and that will put 645d in different league and command a higher
  price. That is, if Kodak does its homework.
  Otherwise, sadly the 35 mm full frame from Pentax is as likely as
  US signing the Kyoto agreement. Oh well, maybe the 20D viewfinder is
  not that bad? I should have another look...
  Servus,  Alin
Rob wrote:
RS I predict that if and when Pentax actually get a D645 body to 
market Canon will
RS before if not very soon after release a full frame 18MP body at a 
very
RS attractive price point which will be near half the price point of 
the Pentax
RS D645. In the interim Pentax will be no closer to production of a 
full frame
RS 35mm DSLR and APS DSLR development will remain stagnant.

RS I'd love to be proven wrong but...




Re: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's not a matter of materials. It's more about the evolution of the 
technology and the reduced cost of components. Whatever sensor Pentax  
is using, you can be fairly certain they have a deep pocket, heavy user 
partner. I'll bet we hear more about this shortly.
Paul
On Mar 16, 2005, at 5:04 AM, Cotty wrote:

On 16/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
I'm guessing it will be much less. The digital market is still 
evolving.
To be successful, Pentax will have to price under the Canon 1DS Mark 
II.
I think they'll find a way to do it.
Perhaps by using lots of plastic. There is a reason that cameras 
destined
for heavy use are expensive, right Paul? Pentax can only sacrifice so
much in terms of quality before it becomes self-defeating.


Cheers,
  Cotty
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Re: 18.6 MP 645 announcement

2005-03-16 Thread Frantisek
 share Rob's scepticism. Although, I am not a sceptic. I just laughed
 at all the threads on dpreview about D2X vs 1DSII.
SP Both are great cameras. I wish Pentax could produce *istD succesor with
SP 12MPix sensor as used in D2X. And AF performance at level of D2X would be
SP nice too ;-)

I meant I laughed at the constant quarrels between people there on DPREVIEW...

If the price you mention is near real, it would be some great
camera...

Good light!
   fra



Re: D645 Prediction

2005-03-16 Thread Alin Flaider

  20D is no full frame but at least sits on a full frame path.
 
  Servus,  Alin

Paul wrote:
PS The 20D isn't full frame. And based on the results I've seen, it's no
PS better than the *istD, perhaps not as good.

PS On Mar 16, 2005, at 4:06 AM, Alin Flaider wrote:


   The larger sensor (38x50mm?) has pixels almost twice as big (in
   area) and should have better signal to noise performance than 1 DS2,
   and that will put 645d in different league and command a higher
   price. That is, if Kodak does its homework.

   Otherwise, sadly the 35 mm full frame from Pentax is as likely as
   US signing the Kyoto agreement. Oh well, maybe the 20D viewfinder is
   not that bad? I should have another look...

   Servus,  Alin




Re: 12-24 DA Lens announcement

2005-03-16 Thread Herb Chong
it would replace my Sigma 12-24, which i don't like a lot, but it functions 
well enough to be useable. i expect optics on the Pentax to be comparable to 
the 16-45 and no worse than the 14.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: 12-24 DA Lens announcement


I already have the 16-45, but I'm still going to want the 12-24. It's a lot 
wider on the small end, and the range is so different, that it's not at all 
redundant. It will be the lens for those times when only wide is needed. 
The 16-45, on the other hand, provides everything from moderately wide to 
portrait lens fov.



Re: 18.6 MP 645 announcement

2005-03-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Frantisek wrote on 16.03.05 12:20:

 I meant I laughed at the constant quarrels between people there on DPREVIEW...
Oh yes, that's true. Neverending, pointless quarrels. Just like a small
children, who often like to quarrel with friends who has the best toy :-)

 If the price you mention is near real, it would be some great
 camera...
That was rumours 1 or 2 years ago. I hope they were close to true.

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Man of the year

2005-03-16 Thread Alin Flaider

  I believe at least one of these was taken in Romania. :o(
  Do I see the an incipient essay? ;o)
 
  Servus,  Alin

Bob wrote:

BW http://www.web-options.com/manoftheyearawards.htm




Re: Man of the year

2005-03-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Alin Flaider wrote on 16.03.05 12:42:

 I believe at least one of these was taken in Romania. :o(
I have been several times in Romania and never seen these men ;-)

 Do I see the an incipient essay? ;o)
No, I bet it is closed now ;-)

-- 
Pozdrowienia
Sylwek



Re: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Mar 2005 at 6:22, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 It's not a matter of materials. It's more about the evolution of the 
 technology and the reduced cost of components. Whatever sensor Pentax  
 is using, you can be fairly certain they have a deep pocket, heavy user 
 partner. I'll bet we hear more about this shortly.

If Josteins insider information is correct regarding its suggested build to 
order production then the sensors will likely remain very expensive that is of 
course unless Pentax's competitors employ the same sensors at much higher 
volumes :-(

Remember too that any large sensor will never fall to the cost of a physically 
smaller high or low volume sensor due to the relatively fixed cost of silicon 
per unit area.

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/3/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

It's not a matter of materials. It's more about the evolution of the 
technology and the reduced cost of components. Whatever sensor Pentax  
is using, you can be fairly certain they have a deep pocket, heavy user 
partner. I'll bet we hear more about this shortly.

I take your point but submit that it is a matter of materials. A high
spec camera is not just about the technology packed inside, is it? Surely
it's also about how that package is put together, how well it stands up
to heavy use, how well the service and backup capability exists. I have
no argument with much of the above WRT Pentax, but if I was making money
full time from stills, and eyeing up some new gear, I would be a daft boy
to move away from what I already had unless the newbie was as good as, or
better than, the status quo. The 645D has to catch up, meet, and maybe
even surpass offerings already there. It can be done IMO, but not on the
cheap, without losing credibility.

Best regards,




Cheers,
  Cotty


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What to do with a dead 6x7 (or two)

2005-03-16 Thread Paul Ewins
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pentaxmx/6x7/

I learned the hard way that early 6x7s can't be repaired. The one on the
right is the early version (mk 1?) with the checker spool release while
the left hand one is the later style, still without MLU. 

The finders are equally beaten up and I sometimes wonder if they have some
sort of clumsy feng-shui built into them as almost every 6x7 finder I have
seen looks to have been dropped at least once. Still, I guess most were pro
gear and got used often enough that an accident was inevitable.

I'm still looking for a cheap lens for the left hand camera, so if anybody
has a non-functional or fungus ridden 6x7 lens that they would part with
cheaply please let me know. 

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia




Visiting New York city in June - which camera shop should I visit?

2005-03-16 Thread Stuart Moore
Hi all,

I am taking my wife to Ney Work city for a birthday weekend in June and it 
seems a good opportunity to buy some additional odds and ends for my Pentax 
*ist D. I could do with some prime lenses and a battery grip. I am also 
thinking of something to bounce a little light off. (I am a bit new at this.)

Generally USA prices are a lot lower than UK prices so it is worth me stocking 
up a bit.

By the way, as I shall travelling out of the country, will I be excused the 
local sales tax? Perhaps only certain shops?

TIA,

Stuart

-- 
Stuart  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Pentax News

2005-03-16 Thread David Savage
Seek help.

g

Dave S


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:13:16 +0200, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And now at last it comes. (...) In place of the Dark Lord you will
 set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as
 the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow
 upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger
 than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!
 
 It just crossed my mind... :)
 
 Alex Sarbu
 
 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:04:26 -0500, Paul Stenquist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 . I see no
  reason for despair. But, then again, despair is what we do best :-).
  Paul
 
 
 




Re: *istD creation/modification dates

2005-03-16 Thread Jostein
Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 Looks like a Mac and/or Photoshop problem.


Hmmm...
I just used the Windows Explorer and added some custom fields to the Details
view. One field called image created date shows nothing. I agree with you
about the interpretation of the file created date, but it would have been nice
if the image created date was correctly set as well. 

Interestingly, the Pentax Photo browser has got a third take on this. Below the
thumbnail, it shows a date that varies with local timezone, while the
date/time field in the metadata below shows an absolute timestamp. Thus, all
the pics from Israel a couple of weeks ago, have literally correct stamp
relative to your current timezone, whereas the metadata entry is correct
according to the local timezone where the shot was made. :-)

I have only raw files to look at, but imo, the mac can't be the culprit here.

Jostein


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Re: Pentax News

2005-03-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't think this camera will be on the usual assembly line. According to
my local Pentax person (I was not allowed to say so until the press release),
this will be a camera to be produced on demand rather than in batches based on
expected sales. He also said that there will be options for personal
customization of each camera

Will Cesar be able to order a factory-installed snakeskin finish?

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-16 Thread Jostein
If that becomes the street price, I'll start saving too. Might end up selling
most of my smaller format gear in the process, though.

Jostein

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I would probably spend $4000 on a D645. 
 
 
  So who here has it in their sights and how much would you be prepared to
 spend 
  on such a beast?
  
  Cheers,
  
  
  Rob Studdert
  HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
  Tel +61-2-9554-4110
  UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
  Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
  
 
 





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Re: D645 Prediction

2005-03-16 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm not sure that I'd want a full frame camera, mainly because of the 
problems with vignetting with wide angles.

You know, this and all the other criticisms, praises and predictions for
the future of full-frame sensors are based on an assumption that sensor
technology won't improve in the years to come.

I wouldn't be so rash as to propose an exact time frame, but they *are*
going to improve. They're going to get bigger, better and cheaper.
If you're in a hurry and just have to be on the bleeding edge of
technology you need to switch to Canon ASAP. Otherwise work with what
you have (and can afford) and concentrate on improving your own skills
and techniques. Plenty of room for improvement there, at least in my
case.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: first *istD casualty?

2005-03-16 Thread Don Sanderson
I agree with Paul, when my autofocus quit I had to remove
the old batteries, put in a new set and wait almost 30
minutes before everything went back to normal.
Not only do low batteries do wierd things, it appears
that it takes a bit to recover from the wierd too.
Hasn't acted up since.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:06 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: first *istD casualty?
 
 
 Make sure you have fresh batteries in the camera. I've experienced a 
 wide range of odd behavior with low voltage batteries.
 Paul
 On Mar 15, 2005, at 10:58 PM, Tan and Steve wrote:
 
 
  Well, she's given up the ghost!  My poor baby is off to the shop after
  17,000 or so frames cause her aperture control won't work anymore! 
  boohoo...
 
  I can change shutter speed but the only way to change the aperture is 
  by
  emptying out the batteries and restarting the camera - not exactly an
  efficient way to shoot a wedding!
 
  Any suggestions for a quick fix before I ship her out?
 
  tan. :)
 
  Tanya Mayer Photography
 
  Brisbane, Qld, Australia
  www.tanyamayer.com
  Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
  Mobile +61 0437831247
 
 



Re: Visiting New York city in June - which camera shop should I visit?

2005-03-16 Thread m.9.wilson

 
 From: Stuart Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 all,
 
 I am taking my wife to Ney Work city for a birthday 

geordie joke
You're going to Middlesbrough?
/geordie joke

I'll explain it if I have to

m

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Re: Visiting New York city in June - which camera shop should I visit?

2005-03-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
BH on 34th and 9th Avenue. It's disneyland for photographers, and the 
prices are very reasonable.
Paul
On Mar 16, 2005, at 7:11 AM, Stuart Moore wrote:

Hi all,
I am taking my wife to Ney Work city for a birthday weekend in June 
and it seems a good opportunity to buy some additional odds and ends 
for my Pentax *ist D. I could do with some prime lenses and a battery 
grip. I am also thinking of something to bounce a little light off. (I 
am a bit new at this.)

Generally USA prices are a lot lower than UK prices so it is worth me 
stocking up a bit.

By the way, as I shall travelling out of the country, will I be 
excused the local sales tax? Perhaps only certain shops?

TIA,
Stuart
--
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Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Enough of this enablement, time for belt tightening

Or some picture taking!

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mar 15, 2005 10:08 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

I just did some quick numbers Fred, put it this way, in the last 6
months I've averaged about AU$1k a month.

HOLY CRAP!

It all started with me going into my camera store to put a deposit on
a 31mm Ltd, and walking out with an *ist D (One week later I picked up
my 31mm). Add another $2k of equipment I had before that fateful day.

Enough of this enablement, time for belt tightening.

Dave S



On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:38:32 -0500 (EST), Fred Widall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The discussion regarding who would buy the new D645 made me wonder how
 much you folk spend on your career/hobby/addiction.
 
 I consider photography my main hobby, but being on the fugual side of
 miserly, I calculate that my total expenditure for equipment over the past
 twenty  years is approx. US$4000. Take away my two digital cameras
 (*istDS  Optio 33LF) and its closer to US$2500. Of course I don't
 make my living at this, nor do I consider myself an expert photographer,
 but I do have fun with the equipment I have.
 
 I think I can confidently say that I will not be buying a D645 !!
 
 Just curious.
 
 --
 Fred Widall,
 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall
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Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread Jim Hemenway
My thoughts exactly.
Jim
Bob W wrote:
Hi,
Wednesday, March 16, 2005, 2:38:32 AM, Fred wrote:

The discussion regarding who would buy the new D645 made me wonder how
much you folk spend on your career/hobby/addiction.

People might want to think twice about publishing the value of their
equipment on a list for every burglar on the internet to read. Knowing
most people's names, and roughly where you live, it wouldn't be
difficult to find your address and come and do a bit of 'shopping'.



Just call me Gramps!

2005-03-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Well, I've just joined the ranks of Grandfatherhood.
I now have a legitimate excuse for being wierd with
the birth of my first Grandchild 'Isabel Lynn'. (I'm told that
it is the sworn duty of all Grampa's to act strange.)  ;-)
Another baby with poor timing, just like me! I was born
at 5:34 am, she beat me by one minute at 5:33.

Funny, I don't feel (or act) any older! ;-)

Took place a couple of hundred miles from here but
I'll see to it y'all have to put up with some pics one
of these days.

Don



RE: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread Don Sanderson
They'd never dare visit here with the ever vigilant
Beauregard on duty!
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Beau_Yawn_Web.jpg

BTW: I have exactly $1.04 worth of gear.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:55 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Wednesday, March 16, 2005, 2:38:32 AM, Fred wrote:
 
  The discussion regarding who would buy the new D645 made me wonder how
  much you folk spend on your career/hobby/addiction.
 
 People might want to think twice about publishing the value of their
 equipment on a list for every burglar on the internet to read. Knowing
 most people's names, and roughly where you live, it wouldn't be
 difficult to find your address and come and do a bit of 'shopping'.
 
 -- 
 Cheers,
  Bob
 



RE: [personal] Visiting New York city in June - which camera shop should I visit?

2005-03-16 Thread David Chang-Sang
BH and Adorama are the two shops I visit when I'm in NYC.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/map_r2_c2.gif is the map for locating BH
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=contactus (no map for Adorama but
their information is on that page)

Adorama and BH are more midtown locations. Please NOTE that their hours
of operation change DRASTICALLY on Friday afternoons/Saturday days due to
the Jewish Sabbath.

Some folks like 17th St. Photo but I've never been there.
http://www.17photo.com/

17th St. Photo is also considered midtown

All three are on the island of Manhattan.

If you're buying your equipment in the store in person then you will be
paying local taxes 8.625% - if you calculate that into your equipment
purchases you'll often find out that it still is a lot cheaper than buying
at home :)

Have fun and grab gear!!

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Stuart Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:11 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [personal] Visiting New York city in June - which camera shop
 should I visit?


 Hi all,

 I am taking my wife to Ney Work city for a birthday weekend in
 June and it seems a good opportunity to buy some additional odds
 and ends for my Pentax *ist D. I could do with some prime lenses
 and a battery grip. I am also thinking of something to bounce a
 little light off. (I am a bit new at this.)

 Generally USA prices are a lot lower than UK prices so it is
 worth me stocking up a bit.

 By the way, as I shall travelling out of the country, will I be
 excused the local sales tax? Perhaps only certain shops?

 TIA,

 Stuart

 --
 Stuart  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]







RE: first *istD casualty?

2005-03-16 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:43:24 -0600, Don Sanderson wrote:

 Not only do low batteries do wierd things, it appears
 that it takes a bit to recover from the wierd too.

That doesn't really surprise me.  The low voltage can affect writes to
non-volatile (flash?) memory inside the camera.  It's possible that
some values were stored incorrectly when voltage was low, and the
camera had to work its way through it to figure out the correct
values.  Sort of like on some cars, when you disconnect the battery,
they lose their memory of the fine tuning of the engine control (fuel,
timing, etc.) and the car runs rough for the first few minutes after
the battery is reconnected and the car started.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread David Savage
Hey there's an idea! Maybe I should take all this stuff out it's box. :-)

Don't worry Kenneth all my kit is getting a good workout.

All my recent spending hasn't all been on photographic equipment. In
my numbers I took into account much needed software  computer
hardware upgrades.

Dave S




On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:08:07 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Kenneth Waller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Enough of this enablement, time for belt tightening
 
 Or some picture taking!
 
 Kenneth Waller




Re: Just call me Gramps!

2005-03-16 Thread David Savage
Congratulations Gramps. :-)

Dave S




On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:12:09 -0600, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, I've just joined the ranks of Grandfatherhood.
 I now have a legitimate excuse for being wierd with
 the birth of my first Grandchild 'Isabel Lynn'. (I'm told that
 it is the sworn duty of all Grampa's to act strange.)  ;-)
 Another baby with poor timing, just like me! I was born
 at 5:34 am, she beat me by one minute at 5:33.
 
 Funny, I don't feel (or act) any older! ;-)
 
 Took place a couple of hundred miles from here but
 I'll see to it y'all have to put up with some pics one
 of these days.
 
 Don
 




Re: Just call me Gramps!

2005-03-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/16/2005 5:13:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Funny, I don't feel (or act) any older! ;-)

Took place a couple of hundred miles from here but
I'll see to it y'all have to put up with some pics one
of these days.

Don
===
Congrats, gramps!

Marnie



Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/16/2005 5:29:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BTW: I have exactly $1.04 worth of gear.

Don
=
Well, just because I said that I've spent approx. $4,000 over 4 years doesn't 
mean I actually $4,000 of gear. No way, not possible, I have too many third 
party consumer grade zooms for that. I've sold a lot too, as I stated also.

I have approx. $35.47 worth of gear, actually. 

Marnie ;-)



Re: Just call me Gramps!

2005-03-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, I've just joined the ranks of Grandfatherhood.
I now have a legitimate excuse for being wierd with
the birth of my first Grandchild 'Isabel Lynn'. (I'm told that
it is the sworn duty of all Grampa's to act strange.)  ;-)

Ah, so that's why you've spent all these many months practicing! ;-)

Congrats!

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: What to do with a dead 6x7 (or two)

2005-03-16 Thread Malcolm Smith
Paul Ewins wrote:

 I learned the hard way that early 6x7s can't be repaired. The 
 one on the right is the early version (mk 1?) with the 
 checker spool release while the left hand one is the later 
 style, still without MLU.

My early one (non-MLU) was bought at a time when most people were starting
to trade into digital. Before I bought one I checked that parts and support
for a CLA were possible and that was confirmed, so I got one. In the 18
months or so I used and enjoyed it, that level of support for spares here
went down to *might* be able to repair/CLA any 6x7.

Did I keep it and risk having a camera which could no longer be easily
repaired or sell it? I chose to sell. Why the parts have suddenly dried up I
can only assume that many have bought and had them serviced. Buying a second
one for parts with my luck would have ensured the part I may have needed was
broken in the second camera too.

In the end, I expect the best way to deal with this and other cameras for
which support becomes an issue, is to have a club 'graveyard' of donated
broken cameras and pay for just the bits required. Not that many would want
an extra task or hassle of setting it up, of course!! Maybe some day in the
future. 

Malcolm   




Re: Peso, Something simple

2005-03-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/15/2005 11:15:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Actually, I'd what I'd like an interpretation of is that interpretation 
 statement.

Sometimes I don't understand everything I read from this list but this 
is too much. :-O While I understand every word I don't understand it at 
all. Would it be possible to translate this sentence to the English 
for dummies, please? :-)

My mother tongue is Slovak, in the various schools I've learned Russian 
and French (not that I'm good at both of them, sadly) but my English is 
entirely self taught so far.

Cheers,

Bedo.
=
I was being humorous. At least, in my own mind, I was. I was referring to 
William Robb's statement, not yours.

William Robb:
Go hard. The best explanation of you you would interpret a picture is 
 actually interpreting it.
 Thats my philosophy anyway.

I didn't understand that at all and it was in English and I've been speaking 
English since I was a child. Or a Californian version of it.

Sometimes, Bedo, it's not a foreign language problem. It's a humor problem, 
or an I expressed myself poorly problem, or a logic problem, or something. 

For self-taught you do very, very, very well. Better than I ever spoke or 
read Spanish. (A foreign language used to be required in high schools here.)

Marnie 



RE: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread Don Sanderson
That's a lot more than me, wanna borrow Beau? ;-)

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:49 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??
 
 
 In a message dated 3/16/2005 5:29:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 BTW: I have exactly $1.04 worth of gear.
 
 Don
 =
 Well, just because I said that I've spent approx. $4,000 over 4 
 years doesn't 
 mean I actually $4,000 of gear. No way, not possible, I have too 
 many third 
 party consumer grade zooms for that. I've sold a lot too, as I 
 stated also.
 
 I have approx. $35.47 worth of gear, actually. 
 
 Marnie ;-)
 



RE: Just call me Gramps!

2005-03-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Exactly!
Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:04 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Just call me Gramps!
 
 
 Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Well, I've just joined the ranks of Grandfatherhood.
 I now have a legitimate excuse for being wierd with
 the birth of my first Grandchild 'Isabel Lynn'. (I'm told that
 it is the sworn duty of all Grampa's to act strange.)  ;-)
 
 Ah, so that's why you've spent all these many months practicing! ;-)
 
 Congrats!
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 



Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Bob W
Subject: Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment 
??


People might want to think twice about publishing the value of 
their
equipment on a list for every burglar on the internet to read. 
Knowing
most people's names, and roughly where you live, it wouldn't be
difficult to find your address and come and do a bit of 'shopping'.

I thought about that before posting.
I'll also trot out this tired old picture of my two dogs:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/TheFellas.html
Combined weight, in excess of 200 pounds, combined teeth, in excess 
of 80.

William Robb 




Re: Pentax News

2005-03-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: Pentax News


I don't necessarily see that as a minus for advanced amateurs or 
part-time pros. It makes the 35mm equipment more affordable. I may 
go to 645 if it's somewhat affordable, but I would certainly want 
to continue with APS DSLR in any case. I think we can look forward 
to an advanced amateur camera with 10 to 12 megapixel sensor, high 
speed buffer, and compact packaging. It would be the MZ-S or PZ-1P 
or the DSLR world. Close to pro level specs, but still affordable. 
I see no reason for despair. But, then again, despair is what we do 
best :-).
There are a lot of 645 (and 6x7) lenses out there. It would be a 
shame for them to be relegated to junk status just because the 
marketplace is abandoning film.

William Robb 




SuperA/Program flash compensation: Experimental confirmation

2005-03-16 Thread Rick Womer
To address a recent thread:

Yes, the exposure compensation knob on a SuperA/Super
Program does, indeed, control the flash output when
the main dial is set to M and aperture is set on the
lens.

Experimental details: Super Program with film speed
set to 200, Sunpak 30DX flash.  Metered in a dim room,
flash turned off, manually set 1/4 sec @ f/3.5.  With
exposure comp knob at 0, the flash recycled in 2
seconds.  With knob at x4 (i.e. 2 stops overexposure)
recycling took 7 seconds.  With knob at x1/4 (2 stops
underexposure) recycling was instantaneous.  The flash
output visibly varied, too.

Note: if the shutter is on P (program) OR the lens is
on A, the comp knob adjusts the ambient exposure, not
the flash.  If the flash is turned on during metering,
things get confusing.

QED.

Rick




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Re: What to do with a dead 6x7 (or two)

2005-03-16 Thread Mark Cassino
Interesting I had no problems getting my 6x7 repaired about a year ago, 
and at a local shop.  He wouldn't touch my LX, Pz-1p, or Mz-S though

- MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Ewins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:07 AM
Subject: What to do with a dead 6x7 (or two)


http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pentaxmx/6x7/
I learned the hard way that early 6x7s can't be repaired. The one on the
right is the early version (mk 1?) with the checker spool release while
the left hand one is the later style, still without MLU.
The finders are equally beaten up and I sometimes wonder if they have some
sort of clumsy feng-shui built into them as almost every 6x7 finder I 
have
seen looks to have been dropped at least once. Still, I guess most were 
pro
gear and got used often enough that an accident was inevitable.

I'm still looking for a cheap lens for the left hand camera, so if anybody
has a non-functional or fungus ridden 6x7 lens that they would part with
cheaply please let me know.
Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia




RE: SuperA/Program flash compensation: Experimental confirmation

2005-03-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Rick, good info!

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Womer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:15 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: SuperA/Program flash compensation: Experimental confirmation
 
 
 To address a recent thread:
 
 Yes, the exposure compensation knob on a SuperA/Super
 Program does, indeed, control the flash output when
 the main dial is set to M and aperture is set on the
 lens.
 
 Experimental details: Super Program with film speed
 set to 200, Sunpak 30DX flash.  Metered in a dim room,
 flash turned off, manually set 1/4 sec @ f/3.5.  With
 exposure comp knob at 0, the flash recycled in 2
 seconds.  With knob at x4 (i.e. 2 stops overexposure)
 recycling took 7 seconds.  With knob at x1/4 (2 stops
 underexposure) recycling was instantaneous.  The flash
 output visibly varied, too.
 
 Note: if the shutter is on P (program) OR the lens is
 on A, the comp knob adjusts the ambient exposure, not
 the flash.  If the flash is turned on during metering,
 things get confusing.
 
 QED.
 
 Rick
 
 
 
   
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Re: Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread m.9.wilson

 
 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/03/16 Wed PM 02:05:41 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob W
 Subject: Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment 
 ??
 
 
 
 
  People might want to think twice about publishing the value of 
  their
  equipment on a list for every burglar on the internet to read. 
  Knowing
  most people's names, and roughly where you live, it wouldn't be
  difficult to find your address and come and do a bit of 'shopping'.
 
 
 I thought about that before posting.
 I'll also trot out this tired old picture of my two dogs:
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/TheFellas.html
 Combined weight, in excess of 200 pounds, combined teeth, in excess 
 of 80.

Combined ferocity: almost that of a cross Koala, from what you've said before.  
Having said that, _I_ wouldn't wait to find out if they came down the stairs at 
me.  One of my friends keeps a chainsaw in the bedroom for exactly the same 
reason.  His argument,Would you argue with a naked man wielding a chainsaw in 
the dark? seems to be very persuasive to me.

mike

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Re: Just call me Gramps!

2005-03-16 Thread pnstenquist
From one Grampa to another, I have to tell you it's a good thing. My 
grandaughter lives in Scotland (and I'm in the states), so I haven't seen her. 
But her and mom will be coming over later this spring. Congratulations on your 
new one.
Paul


 Well, I've just joined the ranks of Grandfatherhood.
 I now have a legitimate excuse for being wierd with
 the birth of my first Grandchild 'Isabel Lynn'. (I'm told that
 it is the sworn duty of all Grampa's to act strange.)  ;-)
 Another baby with poor timing, just like me! I was born
 at 5:34 am, she beat me by one minute at 5:33.
 
 Funny, I don't feel (or act) any older! ;-)
 
 Took place a couple of hundred miles from here but
 I'll see to it y'all have to put up with some pics one
 of these days.
 
 Don
 



Re: Full Frame DSLR (two responses in one)

2005-03-16 Thread Eactivist
I guess I can skip the full frame speculations that I haven't read yet.

Whew, a few more messages to delete from my email box.

Marnie   (I'm trying, Doug, I'm trying.)



Re: SuperA/Program flash compensation: Experimental confirmation

2005-03-16 Thread Joe Wilensky
That confirms what I thought ... though I think that with the shutter 
on P or the lens on A, the exposure compensation knob would adjust 
both the ambient exposure and flash output. Isn't that the case on 
all Pentax bodies with TTL flash, except for the PZ-1p, where they 
finally made flash compensation its own function?

Joe

To address a recent thread:
Yes, the exposure compensation knob on a SuperA/Super
Program does, indeed, control the flash output when
the main dial is set to M and aperture is set on the
lens.
Experimental details: Super Program with film speed
set to 200, Sunpak 30DX flash.  Metered in a dim room,
flash turned off, manually set 1/4 sec @ f/3.5.  With
exposure comp knob at 0, the flash recycled in 2
seconds.  With knob at x4 (i.e. 2 stops overexposure)
recycling took 7 seconds.  With knob at x1/4 (2 stops
underexposure) recycling was instantaneous.  The flash
output visibly varied, too.
Note: if the shutter is on P (program) OR the lens is
on A, the comp knob adjusts the ambient exposure, not
the flash.  If the flash is turned on during metering,
things get confusing.
QED.
Rick

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Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/16/2005 5:39:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hey there's an idea! Maybe I should take all this stuff out it's box. :-)

Don't worry Kenneth all my kit is getting a good workout.

All my recent spending hasn't all been on photographic equipment. In
my numbers I took into account much needed software  computer
hardware upgrades.

Dave S
==
I knew there was something I forgot to include in my financial figuring.

This thread is giving me a headache. 

And a stomach ache, and insomnia.

Marnie 



Re: PAW: People Portraits #12

2005-03-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/16/2005 1:29:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Slim pickin's this week: I'm in the midst of packing up stuff for
moving, fixing all the vehicles and getting them ready for the move,
etc. I liked the light on this people shot, though...

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/12.htm

comments always appreciated.

Godfrey
=
Oh, like it. Espcially the doorway and back to back chairs. Nice 
juxtaposition.

Though it bothers me a tad his hands are cut off. (Wondering what he is doing 
-- looks like keyboarding.)

Marnie 



Re: 67 Lens to Pentax 35mm K-Mount Body Adapter

2005-03-16 Thread Eactivist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mused:

 Village Idiot
 
 PS  How do you pronounce *ist?
=
Everyone seems to call them the D or DS. I'm glad. I haven't gotten the trick 
down yet of sneezing right before saying D/DS.

Marnie :-)



Re: PAW: Keep Your Eyes on the Road

2005-03-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The disaster might make for an interesting photo ;-))

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3196973size=lg

 Nice, although it would be better for me if I didn't have this sense of 
 imminent disaster since he isn't looking where he's going... ;-)




Re: SuperA/Program flash compensation: Experimental confirmation

2005-03-16 Thread Rick Womer
Probably, but I didn't have time to test things
further last night.

Rick

--- Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That confirms what I thought ... though I think that
 with the shutter 
 on P or the lens on A, the exposure compensation
 knob would adjust 
 both the ambient exposure and flash output. Isn't
 that the case on 
 all Pentax bodies with TTL flash, except for the
 PZ-1p, where they 
 finally made flash compensation its own function?
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 To address a recent thread:
 
 Yes, the exposure compensation knob on a
 SuperA/Super
 Program does, indeed, control the flash output when
 the main dial is set to M and aperture is set on
 the
 lens.
 
 Experimental details: Super Program with film speed
 set to 200, Sunpak 30DX flash.  Metered in a dim
 room,
 flash turned off, manually set 1/4 sec @ f/3.5. 
 With
 exposure comp knob at 0, the flash recycled in 2
 seconds.  With knob at x4 (i.e. 2 stops
 overexposure)
 recycling took 7 seconds.  With knob at x1/4 (2
 stops
 underexposure) recycling was instantaneous.  The
 flash
 output visibly varied, too.
 
 Note: if the shutter is on P (program) OR the lens
 is
 on A, the comp knob adjusts the ambient exposure,
 not
 the flash.  If the flash is turned on during
 metering,
 things get confusing.
 
 QED.
 
 Rick
 
 
 
 
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RE: Just call me Gramps!

2005-03-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hey, Gramps ...

Congratulations.  This is a good place to act strange.  Thus far I don't
see any more strangeness than usual ;-))

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Don Sanderson 

 Well, I've just joined the ranks of Grandfatherhood.
 I now have a legitimate excuse for being wierd with
 the birth of my first Grandchild 'Isabel Lynn'. (I'm told that
 it is the sworn duty of all Grampa's to act strange.)  ;-)
 Another baby with poor timing, just like me! I was born
 at 5:34 am, she beat me by one minute at 5:33.




RE: PAW: People Portraits #12

2005-03-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I like the light as well.  It's also neat that we don't see what he's doing
with his hands, and we don't see all of the chair on the right.  Nice
juxtaposition and symmetry.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 Slim pickin's this week: I'm in the midst of packing up stuff for
 moving, fixing all the vehicles and getting them ready for the move,
 etc. I liked the light on this people shot, though...

 http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/12.htm




RE: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread Jens Bladt
I keep a spreadsheet for insurance purposes.
It tells me I have appr. 16,000-17,000 USD invested in photographic
equipment - not counting scanner, printer and other computer stuff. Man,
that's just too much! I try to keep it down. So, whenever I buy something,
I'll sell something :-)

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Fred Widall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 16. marts 2005 03:39
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??


The discussion regarding who would buy the new D645 made me wonder how
much you folk spend on your career/hobby/addiction.

I consider photography my main hobby, but being on the fugual side of
miserly, I calculate that my total expenditure for equipment over the past
twenty  years is approx. US$4000. Take away my two digital cameras
(*istDS  Optio 33LF) and its closer to US$2500. Of course I don't
make my living at this, nor do I consider myself an expert photographer,
but I do have fun with the equipment I have.

I think I can confidently say that I will not be buying a D645 !!

Just curious.

--
 Fred Widall,
 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall
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Re: I need an intervention, quick

2005-03-16 Thread wendy beard

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well last week i bought a Sigma 300 F4 for the istD
 and today i bought the Sigma 170-500
 for the Nikon.
 
 Why oh why, does the little devil voice in  my head
 talk louder then the cute little angel
 voice.g
 

Voice from a different devil:

http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/40788350
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/40799212
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/40788934

tempted?
vbg

W.

Wendy Beard
Ottawa, Canada



Re: I need an intervention, quick

2005-03-16 Thread Scott Loveless
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:15:49 -0500, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think you should give your equipment away.  Not sell it, but give
 it.  To someone who will use it and love it.  vbg
Frank's after your fisheye lenses.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 


-- 
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Re: Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread David Savage
I dunno about that Mike. Koalas may look cute but they are notoriously
bad tempered when they come down from their eucalyptus leaf high :-)

Dave S


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:21:05 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

 Combined ferocity: almost that of a cross Koala, from what you've said 
 before.  
 mike
 
snip



Google for the rest of us

2005-03-16 Thread Peter Lacus
http://labs.google.com/googlex/
complete with the dock and with compliments to the OSX :-)
Bedo.


Re: I need an intervention, quick

2005-03-16 Thread brooksdj
Very nice.
How do you like the MkII
My D2h seems ok now(limited winter use mined you),after the AE board 
replacement last
fall.If it fails 
again,i'm selling and going for the 1D-MkII.

Dave  

 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well last week i bought a Sigma 300 F4 for the istD
  and today i bought the Sigma 170-500
  for the Nikon.
  
  Why oh why, does the little devil voice in  my head
  talk louder then the cute little angel
  voice.g
  
 
 Voice from a different devil:
 
 http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/40788350
 http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/40799212
 http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/40788934
 
 tempted?
 vbg
 
 W.
 
 Wendy Beard
 Ottawa, Canada
 






Re: Lexicography of the list

2005-03-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
frank theriault wrote:
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:01:19 -0500, Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

AGG.
   

Are you trying to say that you first used PESO?  Or are you groaning
about the PESO/coined thing?
always curious,
frank
 

Bad puns deserve a groan, the worse the bigger... (Gaud that's a stupid 
English construction I created there, I might loose my license).

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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: *istD creation/modification dates

2005-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 16, 2005, at 4:20 AM, Jostein wrote:
Looks like a Mac and/or Photoshop problem.
Hmmm...
I just used the Windows Explorer and added some custom fields to the 
Details
view. One field called image created date shows nothing. I agree 
with you
about the interpretation of the file created date, but it would have 
been nice
if the image created date was correctly set as well.

Interestingly, the Pentax Photo browser has got a third take on this. 
Below the
thumbnail, it shows a date that varies with local timezone, while the
date/time field in the metadata below shows an absolute timestamp. 
Thus, all
the pics from Israel a couple of weeks ago, have literally correct 
stamp
relative to your current timezone, whereas the metadata entry is 
correct
according to the local timezone where the shot was made. :-)

I have only raw files to look at, but imo, the mac can't be the 
culprit here.
You're quite right, Mac OS is not the culprit at all. Image files on a 
card written by the DS do not have the Created date field in the FAT 
file directory filled out. I used the Terminal to read direct from the 
SD card's file system using the GetFileInfo development tool:

$ ./GetFileInfo -m /Volumes/NO\ NAME/DCIM/100PENTX/IMGP1529.PEF
03/11/2005 22:54:00
$ ./GetFileInfo -d /Volumes/NO\ NAME/DCIM/100PENTX/IMGP1529.PEF
02/05/2040 22:28:16
The -m option returns the Modified date, the -d option should return 
the Created date, but in the case of the Pentax *ist DS' SD file 
system, the latter is nil and the system grabs whatever bytes are in 
that offset on the FAT volume and translates them to a date.

The problem can be corrected pretty easily. Drag copy the files to your 
Mac OS X system, then use a script to pipe the DATE STRING output of 
GetFileInfo -m filename to SetFile -d DATE STRING filename. 
Perhaps I'll write the script when I have a few moments...

Godfrey


Re: D645 Prediction

2005-03-16 Thread DagT
På 16. mar. 2005 kl. 13.48 skrev Mark Roberts:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure that I'd want a full frame camera, mainly because of the
problems with vignetting with wide angles.
You know, this and all the other criticisms, praises and predictions 
for
the future of full-frame sensors are based on an assumption that sensor
technology won't improve in the years to come.

I wouldn't be so rash as to propose an exact time frame, but they *are*
going to improve. They're going to get bigger, better and cheaper.
If you're in a hurry and just have to be on the bleeding edge of
technology you need to switch to Canon ASAP. Otherwise work with what
you have (and can afford) and concentrate on improving your own skills
and techniques. Plenty of room for improvement there, at least in my
case.
Of course :-)
There are technological possibilities, like shifted micro lenses over 
the pixels, to reduce vignetting.  But there´s always the question what 
is the least expensive, to produce some new wide angle lenses, and let 
those who are interested to pay the bill, or to make even more 
complicated sensors, and let all of the users pay the cost.

DagT


Re: D645 Prediction

2005-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 16, 2005, at 4:48 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

I'm not sure that I'd want a full frame camera, mainly because of the
problems with vignetting with wide angles.
You know, this and all the other criticisms, praises and predictions 
for
the future of full-frame sensors are based on an assumption that sensor
technology won't improve in the years to come.

I wouldn't be so rash as to propose an exact time frame, but they *are*
going to improve. They're going to get bigger, better and cheaper.
If you're in a hurry and just have to be on the bleeding edge of
technology you need to switch to Canon ASAP. Otherwise work with what
you have (and can afford) and concentrate on improving your own skills
and techniques. Plenty of room for improvement there, at least in my
case.
Exactly. I'm working with what I have now, and when something better 
that I can afford comes up, I'll see if it nets me an advantage. I'll 
move to it if it does.

Godfrey


Re: Just call me Gramps!

2005-03-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/3/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:

Well, I've just joined the ranks of Grandfatherhood.
I now have a legitimate excuse for being wierd with
the birth of my first Grandchild 'Isabel Lynn'. (I'm told that
it is the sworn duty of all Grampa's to act strange.)  ;-)
Another baby with poor timing, just like me! I was born
at 5:34 am, she beat me by one minute at 5:33.

Congrats Don




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Re: Would you want a Wi-Fi camera?

2005-03-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
Powell Hargrave wrote:
Kodak (and others} are going wireless with photography.  Interesting.
http://www.creativepro.com/story/news/22648.html?cprose=daily
I see how this can have useful applications besides the gee-whiz factor but
it does not interest me at all.
Do you desire a wireless camera?  Instant PESOs anyone.
Powell
 

This is just so wrong, in so many ways.  (But I'm sure Kodak, or someone 
else, will sell lots of them).

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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Just call me Gramps!

2005-03-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 16, 2005, at 5:12 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:
Well, I've just joined the ranks of Grandfatherhood.
Congratulations!
I now have a legitimate excuse for being wierd with
the birth of my first Grandchild 'Isabel Lynn'. (I'm told that
it is the sworn duty of all Grampa's to act strange.)  ;-) ...
Yeah, a buddy of mine was just informed that he will be a grampa in 7 
months and he's already acting strange.

Godfrey


Re: Survey: How do you do exposure?

2005-03-16 Thread ernreed2
Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Godfrey DiGiorgi mused:
  
  Personally, I find all these variations on the theme of Program mode 
  too much to think about. I use Program mode with the EV compensation 
  control for simplicity when I don't really have to watch the focus zone 
  or shutter speed too closely, and switch to Av or Tv modes when I need 
  to hit a specific aperture or shutter speed to get the effect I want.
  
  Godfrey
  
 
 That's exactly why some of us like the Hyper-Program mode (as found
 on the *ist-D, or the PZ-1p).  Switching to Av or Tv isn't a matter
 of moving the mode dial (which isn't all that conveniently situated);
 you just have to use the shutter (or aperture) control to set the
 value that you want, and the camera switches modes automatically.


EXACTLY!




Re: OT: Take the Knarf Quiz !!

2005-03-16 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,
 
  Actually, it's probably some obscure Canadian National Holiday...
 
  like celebrating the return of the Canadian Geese.
 
 actually, I think it was Commonwealth Day yesterday, so half the world
 was celebrating their great good fortune in belonging heart and soul to
 the Great White Mother Across The Sea who has blessed them with her
 Ineffable, Majestic Sovereignty and Blessed Grace.


eh -- well, a common language is kinda useful though ...



Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread Tom Reese
Doug Franklin wrote:

I'd have to curtail another expensive hobby (racing, guns, or women :-)
to get a digital SLR.  It's going to happen, it's just a matter of when
and what hobby takes one for the team.

Racing? You could probably finance a digital SLR, a small arsenal, Paris
Hilton and a couple new hobbies if you gave up racing (if you're talking
motorsports).

To answer the initial question: about five times as much as I should have.

Tom Reese





Re: How much do you have invested in your camera equipment ??

2005-03-16 Thread Eactivist
I have a rash now, too.

Marnie 



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