RE: OT: Illustrator CS vs Painter IX
Hi Vic I had the pleasure to have a look at your paintings and some other of your sides too. You present some very good photos here, my compliments. On the other side you have some really nice Pentax equipment which helps a lot ;-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Vic MacBournie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 6:47 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re:OT: Illustrator CS vs Painter IX I love Painter and have used it for a few years. It's a spectacular program in the hands of a true fine artist but it is also incredibly good for us photographers who are looking to take their photographs to a more creative level... (I too got an updated copy when I bought a new WACOM tablet which I highly recommend. I have a number of animal portraits which I have done by using a combination of photoshop and Painter (mostly painter) If anyone would like to see them they are here. Just click on the thumbnails for full-size images... Thanks Vic http://hometown.aol.ca/pentxuser/page15.html
Re: Peso: Pictures from a vacation VI
Shamelessly manipulated to accentuate nature's beauty. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/vacation/IMGP9536.html Tell me when to stop. Please go on. This one reminds of Fjord Scenic Ride back in good old 2004... Shame on you, Bill Robb, you shameless manipulator ;-). Well done in fact. -- Boris
Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 38q - GDG
On Sep 25, 2005, at 9:56 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/38q.htm Worth a big print. Probably worth re-shooting with film or even with medium format for better yet definition of texture and wider tonal range. Thanks Boris. I was going for a somewhat gritty feel and not the ultra smooth/ detailed texture of MF or LF film. However, it's a difficult image to print ... my first 8x12in was very flat looking. I discovered that i needed to bump up the highlights and push down the shadows just the smallest amount to make it work. It did better on glossy paper than matte too. I might re-render it from RAW as I have a better idea of where to go with it now. fun stuff. :-) Godfrey
Re: anybody still shoot film?
On 25/9/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I feel an ill wind blowing. I just hope this thread isn't included in my promise not to respond to the idiotic threads regarding lens compatibility any longer or I'll owe Cotty a pint. VERDICT, oops I mean: Verdict - - One pint and counting :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: GESO - Great North Run
On 25/9/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: I found it even more difficult than when normally photographing people because some of the subjects were in a very vulnerable condition. One or two others are maybe better but I feel that the subjects are too traumatic for me to feel comfortable about publishing them. Publish and be damned! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
On 26/9/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: And don't even think about using IS for this type of photography it won't help. Hi Rob, I'd be interested to read your further thoughts on this. Please explain? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
On 25/9/05, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: In any case, I'll just toss some of this junk out there. People will think it's OK or think that it stinks. I've seen so many amazing photos from this list in the past months that I'm almost afraid to share, but that's what a list is all about - sharing your ideas and your work. Looking forward to compliments or criticism, if anyone is so inclined. So here goes: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/2005_GreazyMeal Lovely set of pics. Well done. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
I live in a rather odd neighborhood. It's fairly rural and quite eclectic. Above Casa Belinkoff is almost 80,000 acres of park land and open space, down the hill are homes worth more than 500,000. Deer and coyote and fox abound. There's a small, old farm a short walk to the west, and some cute cottages and ramshackle old homes. In the middle of all this, the Hells Angels have a club house. In front of the club house is one of the most interesting and creative mailboxes I've ever seen. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/angel_box.jpg Here's one version of a detail. I'm concerned that the brightest highlights might be blown out. I took 'em high intentionally, but some monitors may show them as fried. let me know ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html Shel
Re: Interesting e-bay item. I don't think this may violate someones guidelin...
On 25/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I think Cotty said he used a IR remote for trying to capture his barn owl. Hmm, or maybe it was a timed remote, but I don't think so. My existing barn owl shots were done normally. I wanted to try and get a shot of the owl diving onto the camera, so I bought a wireless remote which was a lot more than the eBay item as it consisted of the transmitter and receiver unit which sits on the flash hotshoe. Unfortunately the owl must have known - he or she has stopped visiting the field behind our house :-( I keep meaning to find some time to surprise the birds on the feeders with some wide angle close-ups :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: One of the great books on photography ...
On 25/9/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I just finished reading On Being A Photographer by David Hurn and Bill Jay, published by Lenswork (http://www.lenswork.com). This is by far and away one of the most useful reads on the subject of Photography I've made in the past decade or so. I read my copy last year after Bob W recommended it. Unmissable. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: found-object art on the list
On 25/9/05, Mark Erickson, discombobulated, unleashed: OK, this is off-topic and probably counter-productive, but here goes. I was skimming some of the list traffic over the last few digests and some of the wording in some of the posts struck me as very interesting. Something called me to pull a few sentences out of context and regard them as stand-alone entities. All quotes have a certain something to me that sets them apart from the ordinary banter/debate/flamewar stuff on the list. Consider the below quotes as akin to a found-object art project. Note also that I am not making any value judgements one way or the other regarding any original discussions, but merely savoring the wording all by itself. - VERY BAD WRONG recommendations that needed to be set straight That's why you continually but your foot in your mouth and contradict yourself. SLAM DUNK PUNK. Get real are you on a super argue mode where your brain is removed for arument purposes or what? I DID read your post and you did say what you said you said Send them to Mark ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
On 26 Sep 2005 at 8:09, Cotty wrote: Hi Rob, I'd be interested to read your further thoughts on this. Please explain? IS simply can't beat a fast shutter speed for stage photography, particularly the high energy stuff. Though it might help if shooting a seated french horn player :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PAW: A Dancer's Arms
On 26/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Fanyastic picture Frank Gotta love Dave. Shall we club together and buy him a new keyboard? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: How Pentax Could Survive
I wish it was this simple, I've had it out and in 6 times to be sure.;-) Everything looks fine, I've had this issue since new. It's only off enough to cause problems with wide apertures, stop down a bit and the DOF hides the problem. I was convinced it was my eyes for a while but I just ran a roll thru the MX with a 50/1.4 wide open with no problem. Thanks Don -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:24 PM To: PDML Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive On Sep 25, 2005, at 6:22 PM, William Robb wrote: Nothing is certain, but I suspect this is wishful thinking. Full- frame doesn't offer wider angles; it's just that there aren't many very wide lenses in APS format yet. I've been told that the farther the rear nodal point is from the lens, the harder it is to design a good lens. If this is the case, there aren't going to be very many wide angles for the APS format, if they stay with the present flange to focal plane distance of 40 or so millimeters (I don't know the exact number offhand). What I'm unsure of is how much wider than a 14mm, or a 12mm in the case of the 12-24mm zoom, you need. I had a 15mm that I used with the Leica M once upon a time, and I found it to be not as pleasing a lens to use as a 21mm. Wider than 100 degrees across the diagonal is, to me anyway, truly a specialist domain. Godfrey
Re: PESO: A dog pic
On 25/9/05, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: This guy actually looked scary, and wasn't intimidated by me not showing fear and walking up to him: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=247 istD, FA16-45 at 16mm Thanks for looking, Marvellous shot! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
In neither one do the highlights look blown to me. Interesting, to say the least :-) Dave On 9/26/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in a rather odd neighborhood. It's fairly rural and quite eclectic. Above Casa Belinkoff is almost 80,000 acres of park land and open space, down the hill are homes worth more than 500,000. Deer and coyote and fox abound. There's a small, old farm a short walk to the west, and some cute cottages and ramshackle old homes. In the middle of all this, the Hells Angels have a club house. In front of the club house is one of the most interesting and creative mailboxes I've ever seen. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/angel_box.jpg Here's one version of a detail. I'm concerned that the brightest highlights might be blown out. I took 'em high intentionally, but some monitors may show them as fried. let me know ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html Shel
Re: PAW: A Dancer's Arms
Does fany mean the same thing where Dave is than it does here? cheeky schoolboy grin Dave On 9/26/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Fanyastic picture Frank Gotta love Dave. Shall we club together and buy him a new keyboard? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
On 26/9/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: IS simply can't beat a fast shutter speed for stage photography, particularly the high energy stuff. Though it might help if shooting a seated french horn player :-) In general I would agree. However, if one wanted a slower shutter speed to enable the activity on the stage to become motion-blurred, without the actual (static) stage and scenery to become blurred, and no tripod. But that's a red herring. Of course I would much rather use a fast lens. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Pentax repair turn-around time?
Sorry, I replied to the wrong post before. :-( Back to bed now. yawn I wish it was this simple, I've had it out and in 6 times to be sure.;-) Everything looks fine, I've had this issue since new. It's only off enough to cause problems with wide apertures, stop down a bit and the DOF hides the problem. I was convinced it was my eyes for a while but I just ran a roll thru the MX with a 50/1.4 wide open with no problem. Thanks Don -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:27 PM To: PDML Subject: Re: Pentax repair turn-around time? Don, The focusing screen is user-serviceable. Just unclip the retaining frame at the front and re-seat the screen, fix the clip again. It's probably just gotten jiggered a little bit from vibration. Worth a shot and takes less than a minute to do. Godfrey On Sep 25, 2005, at 6:44 PM, Don Sanderson wrote: There is no doubt anymore that my ist-D needs adjusted. By comparing autofocus results to what I see in the viewfinder the focus screen image is off by about 1/3 inch with a 50mm lens focused at 1.5 feet. Autofocus is on the money. I hesitate to try this myself without any tech info. How long might I expect Pentax US to have the camera if I send it in? Is there an expedited service available at a fee? TIA Don
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
On 26 Sep 2005 at 8:35, Cotty wrote: In general I would agree. However, if one wanted a slower shutter speed to enable the activity on the stage to become motion-blurred, without the actual (static) stage and scenery to become blurred, and no tripod. But that's a red herring. Of course I would much rather use a fast lens. The problem is generally preventing a shot from being motion blurred, blur is easy to achieve wanted or not. I've got lots of images of sharp mics, you can even see the wire in the mesh but the faces behind them are often rendered contorted. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Distortion low on the horizon
Does anyone know the technical reason that the sun renders as an ellipse when shot close to the horizon? TIA. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 38q - GDG
I would really like to have this as 120X90 on canvas ;-) i just love BW minimalizm shots Michael On 9/26/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 25, 2005, at 9:56 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/38q.htm Worth a big print. Probably worth re-shooting with film or even with medium format for better yet definition of texture and wider tonal range. Thanks Boris. I was going for a somewhat gritty feel and not the ultra smooth/ detailed texture of MF or LF film. However, it's a difficult image to print ... my first 8x12in was very flat looking. I discovered that i needed to bump up the highlights and push down the shadows just the smallest amount to make it work. It did better on glossy paper than matte too. I might re-render it from RAW as I have a better idea of where to go with it now. fun stuff. :-) Godfrey -- Yours Michael
Re: Pictures from a vacation VI
Grrr - wonderful shot Bill - no need to stop! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: Peso: Pictures from a vacation VI Shamelessly manipulated to accentuate nature's beauty. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/vacation/IMGP9536.html Tell me when to stop. William Robb
Re: Distortion low on the horizon
Good question. I Google'ed it and came up with this: I did not mention refraction in the explanation I just gave. Refraction lifts up the image of a celestial object near the horizon, and the more the closer the object is to the horizon. Refraction can only have a systematic effect in the vertical direction, because the atmosphere is layered only in the vertical direction. It is impossible to make everything appear, for example, twice as large in the horizontal direction, because if that happened everywhere along the horizon, then the horizon would have to be twice as large in circumference, and that doesn't fit. So, the image of the Sun (the solar disk) is equally wide at every height above the horizon. The effect of refraction in vertical direction can be seen in the Sun or Moon when they are low in the sky, because then the Sun and the Moon appear a little squashed, because the bottom is lifted up more by refraction than the top (because the bottom, as long as it is visible, is closer to the horizon than the top). The Sun appears to be 15% flatter when the bottom of the solar disk touches the horizon. When the bottom of the Sun is still 1 degree (two diameters) above the horizon, then the flattening is 10%. If the Sun is 5 degrees above the horizon, then the flattening is only 2.5%. So, refraction close to the horizon does not make the image of the Sun or Moon larger, but rather smaller, because it is flattened in the vertical direction. The effect is at most 15%, and in the wrong direction, so it cannot explain the small when high, large when low effect, which works in the other direction, does not change the shape, and appears much greater than 15%. Under Larger near the Horizon, Smaller Overhead: http://www.astro.uu.nl/~strous/AA/en/antwoorden/sterrenbeelden.html Dave On 9/26/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know the technical reason that the sun renders as an ellipse when shot close to the horizon? TIA. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Has anyone used a Manfrotto 555B Levelling Column?
Has anyone used or owned a Manfrotto 555B Levelling Center Column for the new 055 series tripods? I'm looking at purchasing one for pano use and I'd like to gather thoughts on its use good and bad. It doesn't look like it slides right out of the tripod too easily and I'd prefer to be able to just untighten the centre column, slide it out and swap it with another fitted with an alternate head. http://www.manfrotto.com/webdav/site/manfrotto/shared/_images/Manfrotto/product_ images/zoom/555B.jpg Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Distortion low on the horizon
I do now: http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/atoptics/sunflat.htm Cheers, David Rob Studdert wrote: Does anyone know the technical reason that the sun renders as an ellipse when shot close to the horizon? TIA. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Distortion low on the horizon
Refraction. You are looking at the sun throught the outskirts of a spherical lens, and to complicate things further the lens has a graded index because of gradients in pressure and humitity. Just before you see the sun set it is actually already behind the horizon but the lens made by the athmosphere bends the light slightly aorund the edge. You can see at lot of strange things happen, especially in warm air over warm water when the athmosphere has layers of air with different refractive indexes. The most famous is the green flash, when you suddenly see a part of the sun disk turn green. DagT fra: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] dato: 2005/09/26 ma AM 09:46:21 CEST til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net emne: Distortion low on the horizon Does anyone know the technical reason that the sun renders as an ellipse when shot close to the horizon? TIA. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Distortion low on the horizon
Rob Studdert wrote on 26.09.05 9:46: Does anyone know the technical reason that the sun renders as an ellipse when shot close to the horizon? Maybe it is squished because it bounced from earth surface? ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
This one time, at band camp, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need faster glass, not a 20d. The 20d's AF is problematic in light that low (As is a D70's). But a stop or two of ectra speed would save you (As would shooting at 3200). An 85 f/1.4 at 3200 would get you 3 stops more speed than your sigma wide-open at 1600. Have you seen the noise on an image at 3200 in low light? I can tell you from experience, it is worthless. Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
PESO - Model Mantid
http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/mantid2.jpg Just grabbed one of these (Snake Mantid, Kongobatha diademata) from the garden and did some close-up shooting indoors. QD conversion, could be better but it does the job. Let me know what you think. It's been the first bit of real shooting I've done for quite a while. Cheers, David
Re: Pictures from a vacation V
William Robb wrote: My wife likes this one, I'm not as sure about it. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/vacation/IMGP9489.html Shot with the FA50/1.4, at f/8, 1/13 second. William Robb I like it too, Bill! 1/13 sec? Those odd times are an artifact of the digital age, I guess... Hand held? Monopod? Deserves to be enlarged and mounted, perhaps in a series of images, but definitely displayed... keith whaley
Re: OT: Illustrator CS vs Painter IX
In a message dated 9/25/2005 9:48:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I love Painter and have used it for a few years. It's a spectacular program in the hands of a true fine artist but it is also incredibly good for us photographers who are looking to take their photographs to a more creative level... (I too got an updated copy when I bought a new WACOM tablet which I highly recommend. I have a number of animal portraits which I have done by using a combination of photoshop and Painter (mostly painter) If anyone would like to see them they are here. Just click on the thumbnails for full-size images... Thanks Vic http://hometown.aol.ca/pentxuser/page15.html Aha! I've seen them before (well, most of them) and liked them. I did not realize you created them that way. Good to know! Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO: A dog pic
In a message dated 9/25/2005 11:26:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This guy actually looked scary, and wasn't intimidated by me not showing fear and walking up to him: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=247 istD, FA16-45 at 16mm Thanks for looking, j = That's an interesting photo. It's different. Marnie aka Doe
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
Very good stuff for the most part. A little soft here and there, but some very nice comositions with good exposure control. The band should be thrilled with these. My favorite is probaby 2700, although it was a close call. Also like the overheads that show the band and the first couple of rows of the crowd. Good work. This is definitely a manual focus situation for any camera and lens. A zoom is a nice convenience but the speed of the primes is a big plus. Paul On Sep 25, 2005, at 11:15 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: I tried to take some photos at a show with my kit lens and figured out after about 5 minutes that it was a hopeless disaster. Too dark, the focus would take forever. And the lens is just too slow at f5.6 from most of the zoom range. So I pulled out the old glass. A28 f2.8, A50 f1.7, M135 f2.5, and my dad's old M40-80 f2.8-4. These older lenses do a much better job of pulling in the light (although I discovered that the 40-80 zoom has some weird sort of blooming around the highlights. A disappointment as the zoom range was perfect for the close quarters I was working in.). Focus could have been even better if those darned band members would just stop moving! In any case, I'll just toss some of this junk out there. People will think it's OK or think that it stinks. I've seen so many amazing photos from this list in the past months that I'm almost afraid to share, but that's what a list is all about - sharing your ideas and your work. Looking forward to compliments or criticism, if anyone is so inclined. So here goes: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/2005_GreazyMeal -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
RE: anybody still shoot film?
G'day Bruce John. You both raise good points. Maybe I'm looking at Digital SLRs from the wrong angle. What you both have said makes a lot of sense. Thanks. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor. Grafton, Australia -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 26 September 2005 3:25 AM To: John Forbes Subject: Re: anybody still shoot film? I concur. My two *istD bodies have a combined total of around 40,000 images. Neither one has had a hiccup through the entire time. That is about 1,100 rolls of film. Far more wear and tear than I ever put on my film bodies. You may ask why so many images - the ability to shoot speculation with digital has had a major impact for me. Basically, I can shoot events where I may or may not make money (kids sports, social events, etc). When shooting film, I couldn't even consider this venue because it would be way too costly. If you were to count the number of frames shot by these digital SLR's I think you would find that they are more durable than you might have imagined. Most film cameras don't have that much use put on them. If you think of all the reports of ZX-5 series cameras breaking, without nearly the amount of use, I would say that the film cameras are perhaps less robust than the digis. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, September 25, 2005, 5:33:33 AM, you wrote: JF Trevor, JF The majority of people on this list would now appear to be shooting JF digital, so most reports of camera malfunctions will concern JF digitals. JF Furthermore, digital malfunctions are newsworthy, whilst film camera JF malfunctions are not. I bet we've heard from every DSLR-owner whose JF camera has malfunctioned, whilst film camera malfunctions go JF unmentioned. JF Furthermore, at least some of the reports about DSLR problems can be JF traced to misunderstandings about how the things work, or bad JF batteries. JF I think you'll find that the great majority of owners have had no JF problems. JF John JF On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 07:05:50 +0100, Trevor Bailey JF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All. I have stayed with film for the time being. The PZ-1p is super reliable even if it's hard on batteries. From the traffic on this forum about *ist D body malfunctions, I am holding off of investing in Pentax Digital SLR. I don't have the Dollars to throw at a Digital or the patience for the pissing around of warranty claims, waiting around and freight costs. If the reliability improves, Who knows. I wonder if Pentax will release a grip and strap for the *ist Ds2 similar to the one for the PZ-1p if they don't do a battery grip? Hooroo. Regards, Trevor. Grafton. Australia
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
Spend all the money you wish, but no camera I've seen can autofocus in that kind of situation. My friend's D20 can't. Use manual focus and fast primes. On Sep 25, 2005, at 11:41 PM, McRae, Max MS wrote: Charles wrote: I tried to take some photos at a show with my kit lens and figured out after about 5 minutes that it was a hopeless disaster. Too dark, the focus would take forever. remainder snipped I had exactly the same problem on the weekend trying to photograph dancers in a hall lit only with spots. I wasn't allowed to use flash, so had to use 1600 ISO, keep my 2.8 Sigma 70 -200 wide open, and override the shutter to read 1/250th to try and stop movement. What a joke...I took over 1000 exposures and 99% are complete junk. The auto focus on the *IstD is hopelessly inadequate for this kind of low light work. I lost a lot of money on this shoot, so I'm looking to buy a camera that will do the job...possibly a Canon D20. Any advise out there welcomed. Max EOM NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination, copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is the disclosure of the information therein. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the message.
Re: PESO: Duet
Thanks Shel. I shot a series. This is the only one with tit, but I prefer it to the others. Paul On Sep 25, 2005, at 11:42 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Bingo! Great pic ... even the tilt works ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3757379size=lg
Re: Pictures from a vacation V
I like it. Fascinating subject, interesting light, well exposed. One has to wonder how long ago that tree was cut. If it's hardwood, it could be a very ancient stump. Paul On Sep 25, 2005, at 11:49 PM, William Robb wrote: My wife likes this one, I'm not as sure about it. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/vacation/IMGP9489.html Shot with the FA50/1.4, at f/8, 1/13 second. William Robb
Re: Temporarily enabled with 2.8/70-200mm
AFAIK, at least for Canon, to remove the aperture ring, was one of the steps toward a camera that can be commanded with just one hand (in fact canon cameras have the most-used commands on the right-most part of them). Canon is aiming at nature photographers (among others), those who may need a free hand to hang around in the wild . But of course other factors may have come in the math too (cost-cutting to say one). Very true. However, the Canon EOS lenses does not have an aperture ring, and neither does many nikon lenses. I don't know exactly why C and N have eliminated them, but it could be a sign in time for the future of the K-mount.
Re: Peso: Pictures from a vacation VI
Interesting. Does the blue on the mountains contradict the warm light on the foreground hill? I'm not sure. I like the composition and framing, and the layered clouds in the mountains are great. What would it look like if you pushed it to the warm side??? Paul On Sep 26, 2005, at 12:24 AM, William Robb wrote: Shamelessly manipulated to accentuate nature's beauty. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/vacation/IMGP9536.html Tell me when to stop. William Robb
Re: How Pentax Could Survive
given the rising popularity of stitched panoramas, the ultrawide lenses are more important than they used to be relative to film cameras. i could use a 10mm 180 degree full frame fisheye on my bodies, if it were sufficiently high quality. it would save me a lot of time. Herb - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:48 PM Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive True. I get good use out of the 15 on digital. It's hard to say, but I suspect, were I shooting 35mm film, that the 15 wouldn't be the right lens unless I was trying hard to make it so. On film, I got very good use out of the 20, but my 17 is definitely in the realm of too wide for most of the time.
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
I like the detail shot. Nice pic. Highlights are excellent. They read as just a somewhat brighter shade of gray. Paul : On 9/26/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in a rather odd neighborhood. It's fairly rural and quite eclectic. Above Casa Belinkoff is almost 80,000 acres of park land and open space, down the hill are homes worth more than 500,000. Deer and coyote and fox abound. There's a small, old farm a short walk to the west, and some cute cottages and ramshackle old homes. In the middle of all this, the Hells Angels have a club house. In front of the club house is one of the most interesting and creative mailboxes I've ever seen. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/angel_box.jpg Here's one version of a detail. I'm concerned that the brightest highlights might be blown out. I took 'em high intentionally, but some monitors may show them as fried. let me know ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html Shel
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
Love it. Beautiful shot. John On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 06:38:04 +0100, Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wildcherry -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 23/09/2005
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
Charles, if that's junk, you've redefined the word. Lovely stuff. John On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 04:15:07 +0100, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to take some photos at a show with my kit lens and figured out after about 5 minutes that it was a hopeless disaster. Too dark, the focus would take forever. And the lens is just too slow at f5.6 from most of the zoom range. So I pulled out the old glass. A28 f2.8, A50 f1.7, M135 f2.5, and my dad's old M40-80 f2.8-4. These older lenses do a much better job of pulling in the light (although I discovered that the 40-80 zoom has some weird sort of blooming around the highlights. A disappointment as the zoom range was perfect for the close quarters I was working in.). Focus could have been even better if those darned band members would just stop moving! In any case, I'll just toss some of this junk out there. People will think it's OK or think that it stinks. I've seen so many amazing photos from this list in the past months that I'm almost afraid to share, but that's what a list is all about - sharing your ideas and your work. Looking forward to compliments or criticism, if anyone is so inclined. So here goes: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/2005_GreazyMeal -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 23/09/2005
RE: PDML 10th anniversary
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: Hi Dario, -Original Message- From: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:46 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PDML 10th anniversary Yes, when you were called Antti-Pekka Virtanen, if I remember well. Yes, you're correct. It was on the days before I was married ;-). (And no, it is not customary to Finnish men to take the last name of their bride...) Interesting. As is the (apparent, perhaps :-) similarity of the surnames. Kostas
RE: PDML 10th anniversary
It is (interesting that is). The similarity of the two names is only visual as you suggested. Why did I change my name in the first place? Well, my previous name is propably the 2nd most common surname in Finland. On a contrast to that there are only about 50 people alive who have the same surname as I currently have. And the best part is I did not need to alter my hand written signature at all ;-). Regards, Antti-Pekka Antti-Pekka Virjonen Estera Oy Turku www.estera.fi www.computec.fi -Original Message- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 2:42 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PDML 10th anniversary On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote: Hi Dario, -Original Message- From: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:46 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PDML 10th anniversary Yes, when you were called Antti-Pekka Virtanen, if I remember well. Yes, you're correct. It was on the days before I was married ;-). (And no, it is not customary to Finnish men to take the last name of their bride...) Interesting. As is the (apparent, perhaps :-) similarity of the surnames. Kostas
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 04:15:07 +0100, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In any case, I'll just toss some of this junk out there. People will think it's OK or think that it stinks. I've seen so many amazing photos from this list in the past months that I'm almost afraid to share, but that's what a list is all about - sharing your ideas and your work. Looking forward to compliments or criticism, if anyone is so inclined. So here goes: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/2005_GreazyMeal Uh, I think you must have shared the wrong link. There's nothing wrong with this stuff. It's fantastic, actually.
Re: PESO: Duet
I must be looking at the wrong pic. Didn't see any tits at all. heh Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks Shel. I shot a series. This is the only one with tit, but I prefer it to the others. Paul
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Sep 2005 at 8:09, Cotty wrote: Hi Rob, I'd be interested to read your further thoughts on this. Please explain? IS simply can't beat a fast shutter speed for stage photography, particularly the high energy stuff. In other words, IS will compensate for camera motion, but not for motion of the *subject*. Now of course that doesn't matter if you're Frank... ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Duet
Being an old reprobate, I took another look at this pic, thinking, did I miss something?. Then I realised that all that had been missed was an L. :-) John On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:52:12 +0100, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Shel. I shot a series. This is the only one with tit, but I prefer it to the others. Paul On Sep 25, 2005, at 11:42 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Bingo! Great pic ... even the tilt works ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3757379size=lg -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 23/09/2005
Re: PAW: People Portraits 2005 #38 - GDG
On 9/22/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another PAW up for viewing: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/38.htm Comments, critique, flames always appreciated. Flames are ignored. ;-) enjoy Godfrey A lovely, spontaneous moment! I don't mind the fact that she's a bit soft; indeed, I think that only adds to the feeling of spontaneity. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Pictures from a vacation V
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife likes this one, I'm not as sure about it. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/vacation/IMGP9489.html Shot with the FA50/1.4, at f/8, 1/13 second. The subject is a little too centered for my taste, but if you crop it to an 8 x 10 you could fix that easily (been there, done that). A hair of fill flash (1.5-2 stops below ambient) probably wouldn't have hurt. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PAW: People Portraits 2005 #38 - GDG
On 9/25/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No its NOT this is NONESENSE. No, if you don't like my posts for personal reasons then just delete them please. I am not going to stop posting or post only whats pleasurable for you to hear just for your reading pleasure. Secondly, my posts are not rambling, they are logical and on topic and if check the thread, correct facts and valid opinions and non contradictory. The totally uncalled for personal attacks which I never engage in voluntarily ( I ask people to stop repeatedly when they start appearing ) before I ever get forced to reply in same way only to quell them are FAR FAR WORSE abuse of the list than anything I ever do or have done. I don't you see you complaining about that and those are the ultimate in impoliteness and and total netiquitte basics abandonment. Think about it your calling me impolite because of caps? and people like WR thow in comments like retarded and pompous WITHOUT any prior personal attacks made at him at all and that's OK? No way Jose. Punish the criminals not the victims... Get it? (with no apologies to JCO) ;-) So, did you like Godfrey's piccie? LOL -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Daily Update-Petition Petition Survey
84 hits on the web page and 17 submissions so far. Let's keep it going and spread the word! http://www.donsauction.com/Pentax for the survey. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for comments/suggestions. Thanks! Don
Re: PAW: A Dancer's Arms
On 9/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I figured I should try to get some Pentax content in my PAWs: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3755687size=lg Comments are always welcome. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson Fanyastic picture Frank. The pose and lighting are perfect. Good job. Dave Thanks, Dave. And thanks to everyone else who commented. I wasn't sure how it would be received, but I'm glad that so many of you enjoyed it. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Temporarily enabled with 2.8/70-200mm
Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Robb wrote something that I snipped until this was left: The Canon rep told me (sorry, not compelling evidence, just anecdotal) that they felt accuracy and reliability would be improved by eliminating moving parts, as much as possible, and that in the long run, it would be cheaper for manufacture and, consequently, for the consumer to purchase. The accuracy comment makes sense. With an aperture ring you have detents for stops and half stops. Anything in between is a guess. Electronic aperture operation gives the photographer more precise control. Accuracy is certainly part of it. Almost all cameras are electronically controlled now, but you have to convert the electronic information into mechanical movement at some point. The closer this conversion is to the final mechanism, the fewer mechanical linkages you'll have in between and the better off you are. Also, having part of the mechanical system for aperture control in the camera body has a big (negative) effect on manufacturing and assembly costs; purely electronic stuff is much cheaper to assemble than mechanical/electronic stuff. This was, despite opinions to the contrary, a large part of the reason for Pentax ditching the potentiometer and aperture cam from their camera bodies. Canon and Minolta have got almost all the mechanical stuff except the shutter and mirror eliminated from their camera bodies and it pays big dividends in manufacturing costs. Pentax (and Nikon) would undoubtedly like to eliminate the stop-down lever and mechanism from their camera bodies but I don't see how they could do it without a wholesale lens mount change like what Canon Minolta did. If that happens we'll have some *real* lens mount issues! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: GESO: CNE Airshow 2005
On 9/25/05, Pat Kong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank, Nice show the Snowbirds put on, isn't it? I've seen the group fly here in San Francisco as part of Fleet Week in recent years. They are a nice contrast to the US Navy's Blue Angels. Flying at slower speeds than the Angels, they give me more time to capture them. I love watching their loops as you've captured them. Also easier on my ears, too. Got any more like these? Thanks, Pat. Yeah, the Snowbirds put on a great show, and their slow speed means that spectators can see 'em a lot longer than faster aircraft. Those three are by far the best shots that I got of them. The rest are merely repetitive, IMHO. I got shots of other aircraft, but due to out location, we were shooting into the sun, so mostly I got silhouettes. We thought the show was over, and we left our location, then the Snowbirds did their show, so we got them with the sun behind us. Therefore, my Snowbird shots were the best of the day. I may post a couple of other shots over the next day or so, but I don't think they'll be as good as what you've already seen. Thanks again for your kind comments. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun 3--Farmers' Market
On 9/24/05, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Saturday I had the F17-28 lens, I took it with me on my weekly trip to the farmers' market in a nearby park. This shot lost a good deal of its zip in scanning, but I like the fisheye perspective. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720439 PZ-1p, F17-28, Elite Chrome 100, goodness knows what the exposure was. Rick 1) Clearly, you're getting the hang of this lens; and, 2) Clearly, you're having too much fun with it! vbg Terrific shot, Rick. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Temporarily enabled with 2.8/70-200mm
Pentax (and Nikon) would undoubtedly like to eliminate the stop-down lever and mechanism from their camera bodies but I don't see how they could do it without a wholesale lens mount change like what Canon Minolta did. If that happens we'll have some *real* lens mount issues! Wow! Indeed! Fred
Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun 3--Farmers' Market
Thanks, Frank! It =is= really fun to use. Shot many frames with it yesterday too at a run/walk fundraiser. I'm getting those shots on CD, so maybe there will be some quick posts. Rick --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/24/05, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Saturday I had the F17-28 lens, I took it with me on my weekly trip to the farmers' market in a nearby park. This shot lost a good deal of its zip in scanning, but I like the fisheye perspective. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3720439 PZ-1p, F17-28, Elite Chrome 100, goodness knows what the exposure was. Rick 1) Clearly, you're getting the hang of this lens; and, 2) Clearly, you're having too much fun with it! vbg Terrific shot, Rick. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
Creepy, Shel! How would this shot work with a polarizer and a BW conversion? Rick --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in a rather odd neighborhood. It's fairly rural and quite eclectic. Above Casa Belinkoff is almost 80,000 acres of park land and open space, down the hill are homes worth more than 500,000. Deer and coyote and fox abound. There's a small, old farm a short walk to the west, and some cute cottages and ramshackle old homes. In the middle of all this, the Hells Angels have a club house. In front of the club house is one of the most interesting and creative mailboxes I've ever seen. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/angel_box.jpg Here's one version of a detail. I'm concerned that the brightest highlights might be blown out. I took 'em high intentionally, but some monitors may show them as fried. let me know ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html Shel __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Camera engineering ( GREEN BUTTON has just officially DIED...)
On 9/23/05, Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of stuff. I've started taking my mountain bike (Rocky MountainTrailhead) off road, and that's been a lot of fun... trying not tofall into rivers and that sort of thing. Learning how to ride downconcrete stairs was the trickiest. I should probably buy a helmet oneof these days. :) I sold my 67II to a friend at work to bring my debt load down. Thisleaves me without any Pentax gear except an Auto 110, so I feel a weebit guilty about posting here. I'll get a DSLR eventually, but fornow I can borrow pretty much anything I like from the manufacturers'reps, so I'm taking advantage of that to try out every DSLR I can. Idon't think I'll go with a Pentax DSLR, though my g/f bought her dadone and my roommate is buying one for himself. :) (Oh, and yes, myg/f is a Pentax user. I bought her a Z-1p/28-105PZ to go with her Z-1kit.) My photography lately has been taking on a bit of a distinctive style. It's quite abstract, and people have commented that my photos looklike paintings, often with brush strokes. I'm saving up to get someprinted frickin' huge on canvas. What's new with you? (And everyone else?) Not much... g -frank PS: Oh yeah, I'm not a bike courier anymore. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: anybody still shoot film?
I shot two rolls of slide film the other day using my LX and underused 35-105 lens. i had a wonderful time and am looking forward to seeing the results. I had the ist D along for the ride but only shot three shots with it... Vic On 26-Sep-05, at 3:01 AM, Cotty wrote: On 25/9/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I feel an ill wind blowing. I just hope this thread isn't included in my promise not to respond to the idiotic threads regarding lens compatibility any longer or I'll owe Cotty a pint. VERDICT, oops I mean: Verdict - - One pint and counting :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
On 9/26/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in a rather odd neighborhood. It's fairly rural and quite eclectic. Above Casa Belinkoff is almost 80,000 acres of park land and open space, down the hill are homes worth more than 500,000. Deer and coyote and fox abound. There's a small, old farm a short walk to the west, and some cute cottages and ramshackle old homes. In the middle of all this, the Hells Angels have a club house. In front of the club house is one of the most interesting and creative mailboxes I've ever seen. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/angel_box.jpg Here's one version of a detail. I'm concerned that the brightest highlights might be blown out. I took 'em high intentionally, but some monitors may show them as fried. let me know ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html Abandon hope all ye who enter here. g Interesting mailbox, interesting interpretations by you, no fried highlights that I can see. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: RE: anybody still shoot film?
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/26 Mon AM 02:02:51 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: anybody still shoot film? Theoretically yes, practically no. Unless like others have said you can afford to buy a 12000 dpi drum scanner or alternately afford to pay ~US$50 per scan for the privilege. And then it wouldn't be usable unless all colour/level/gamma adjustment could be perfected at the point of capture. This is what I find paradoxical about the whole digital revolution. On one hand, there are statements like the above - 12,000dpi to extract anything like the full information from a 35mm frame. On the other, there are the 6mp is enough brigade. I know they are not exclusive. Back to the practicality of the issue: suppose some D3200 were shot at and processed to yield 1600ISO or higher then scanned at sufficient resolution to reveal individual grains (2000dpi+). The resultant image will look and behave like a lithograph. IOW no grey-scale adjustment/correction can be accomplished on such an image until the individually rendered grains are integrated to form an apparent grey-scale image. That I understand. Is the ISO scale linear wrt grain size? If so, I assume that to get the same effect from a 25ISO frame you will need to scan at 128,000dpi. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESO: Duet
On 9/25/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stopped by the farmer's market in Birmingham, Michigan this morning. Snapped a few pics of this country gospel singer and his young partner. *istD, DA 50-200 at 80mm, f8 at 1/250th, RAW. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3757379size=lg Nice capture! g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW: A Dancer's Arms
I think he needs new fingers. Cotty wrote: On 26/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Fanyastic picture Frank Gotta love Dave. Shall we club together and buy him a new keyboard? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: OT: found-object art on the list
From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/26 Mon AM 03:11:20 GMT To: 'pentax-discuss' pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT: found-object art on the list OK, this is off-topic and probably counter-productive, but here goes. I was skimming some of the list traffic over the last few digests and some of the wording in some of the posts struck me as very interesting. Something called me to pull a few sentences out of context and regard them as stand-alone entities. All quotes have a certain something to me that sets them apart from the ordinary banter/debate/flamewar stuff on the list. Consider the below quotes as akin to a found-object art project. Note also that I am not making any value judgements one way or the other regarding any original discussions, but merely savoring the wording all by itself. - VERY BAD WRONG recommendations that needed to be set straight That's why you continually but your foot in your mouth and contradict yourself. SLAM DUNK PUNK. Get real are you on a super argue mode where your brain is removed for arument purposes or what? I DID read your post and you did say what you said you said Ulysses. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
On Sep 25, 2005, at 22:32, Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Charles I liked your concert shots. The quality is fine for me and you got some good moments too. Did you use a denoiser program on the pc to clean them up? The only processing for any of these is a bit of cropping, the occasional white balance adjustment, and levels. I don't like the looks of what comes out of the de-noising software I've seen so far. Makes everything look plasticy in my opinion. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
On Sep 25, 2005, at 22:43, Rob Studdert wrote: Junk, you are kidding, that's a great set of concert pics, equal to anything I've seen presented here before. It seems like there was plenty of light and it looks like you were moving about far more than the band members too, many interesting angles. :-) Thanks for the compliments. I guess I used the word junk too loosely. I meant it more in the sense of stuff or things as opposed to garbage. At the same time, I am definitely my own worst critic and I'm never really happy with my results, even when others tell me it's good! Manual focus is the only way for me when shooting bands too. There is so much potential for focus and movement problems in shots like this that you have to accept that only a few will end up being really sharp regardless of the gear you employ. If I hit a 1-in-10 ratio, I'm happy. I did a little better here - took about 750 shots and there are just under/over 100 that I included! Not every one is in sharp focus - sometimes the blur is a good effect, and other times the blur is something that I'm choosing to ignore because there are other things about the shot that I like. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: Re: How Pentax Could Survive
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/26 Mon AM 03:30:35 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive Since (at least as I read it) Herb is bitchin' and moaning about the failure of his gear to deliver the goods, I'd suggest he get faster and better gear, and see if that really nets better results. Why keep using Pentax gear if it doesn't do the job? In his position, I would certainly have hired a set of gear to make some decisive moments of more than one type. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: PESO -- The oldest house in town
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/26 Mon AM 04:54:58 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- The oldest house in town Have you used some type of PS filter on this shot? I can't see any detail at all in the walls and there is an overall look like one of the watercolour type filters has been used. Ditto! PJ replied to this some days ago. It's a long exposure, hand held. In which case, we have a new steady champion. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESO - Model Mantid
Nice illustration quality. Mantids are scary, if you think about it. This one looks it. David Nelson wrote: http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/mantid2.jpg Just grabbed one of these (Snake Mantid, Kongobatha diademata) from the garden and did some close-up shooting indoors. QD conversion, could be better but it does the job. Let me know what you think. It's been the first bit of real shooting I've done for quite a while. Cheers, David -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: anybody still shoot film?
On Sep 26, 2005, at 6:21 AM, mike wilson wrote: Theoretically yes, practically no. Unless like others have said you can afford to buy a 12000 dpi drum scanner or alternately afford to pay ~US $50 per scan for the privilege. And then it wouldn't be usable unless all colour/level/gamma adjustment could be perfected at the point of capture. This is what I find paradoxical about the whole digital revolution. On one hand, there are statements like the above - 12,000dpi to extract anything like the full information from a 35mm frame. On the other, there are the 6mp is enough brigade. I know they are not exclusive. As I said, the advantage of scanning devices like the Imacon is primarily tonal rendering, not significant image data. Of course, quantizing a unit area of film to a higher degree and providing more pixels will allow printing to even larger sizes. Digital printing is different compared to optical printing in that quality improves as you make the print larger right up to the point where pixelation becomes visible. So with a 12,000 ppi scan, you're going to be able to make a 60x40 inch enlargement at 300 ppi output size. But you're NOT going to see significantly more quality in an 11x17 inch print. How many 60x40 inch prints do you plan on making? ;-) To make an 13x19, 300ppi print from 35mm requires scanning at 4000 ppi. Unless you need a larger print, or need to crop a LOT, you don't need more. That I understand. Is the ISO scale linear wrt grain size? If so, I assume that to get the same effect from a 25ISO frame you will need to scan at 128,000dpi. Grain size is non-linear and complex to calculate as it changes with processing methodology, sensitivity, gamma, and acutance. Godfrey
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
On Sep 26, 2005, at 2:18, Shel Belinkoff wrote: In front of the club house is one of the most interesting and creative mailboxes I've ever seen. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/angel_box.jpg Looks good, levels are right on. Nice metal skeleton! Here's one version of a detail. I'm concerned that the brightest highlights might be blown out. I took 'em high intentionally, but some monitors may show them as fried. let me know ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html ...and suddenly the steel skeleton looks like it is made out of grey clay. Were you using AWB? -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
Hi John ... yes, the color change was deliberate. I'll post the details in response to another message in this thread. Thanks! Shel [Original Message] From: John Coyle Shel - the highlights are far from fried on my monitor - what I do find interesting is that the skull has changed colour! Was this deliberate? I live in a rather odd neighborhood. It's fairly rural and quite eclectic. Above Casa Belinkoff is almost 80,000 acres of park land and open space, down the hill are homes worth more than 500,000. Deer and coyote and fox abound. There's a small, old farm a short walk to the west, and some cute cottages and ramshackle old homes. In the middle of all this, the Hells Angels have a club house. In front of the club house is one of the most interesting and creative mailboxes I've ever seen. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/angel_box.jpg Here's one version of a detail. I'm concerned that the brightest highlights might be blown out. I took 'em high intentionally, but some monitors may show them as fried. let me know ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/26 Mon AM 07:18:12 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail I live in a rather odd neighborhood. It's fairly rural and quite eclectic. Above Casa Belinkoff is almost 80,000 acres of park land and open space, down the hill are homes worth more than 500,000. Deer and coyote and fox abound. There's a small, old farm a short walk to the west, and some cute cottages and ramshackle old homes. In the middle of all this, the Hells Angels have a club house. In front of the club house is one of the most interesting and creative mailboxes I've ever seen. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/angel_box.jpg Here's one version of a detail. I'm concerned that the brightest highlights might be blown out. I took 'em high intentionally, but some monitors may show them as fried. let me know ... http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html No blowout here but dramatically different colour casts. The full size is dark rusty brown, the detail is battleship grey. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
Rick ... I've worked with this mailbox before. A few years ago I shot it using BW film and a deep red filter. That gave me nice, white bones This time, using the digi, I had to find another way to achieve a similar effect. A polarizer wouldn't do anything along the lines I wanted, although a BW conversion might. However, what I chose to do here, for this interpretation, was to create a Hue/Sat layer in PS and adjust the red channel. I reduced the saturation and turned up the lightness, and that got things pretty close to where I wanted them. I've still not been able to figure out how to get that really bleached, white look that I got with a #29 Red Filter on real BW film. I may have run up against my skill limitations in PS, or maybe it just can't quite be done ... gotta play around with it some more. Shel [Original Message] From: Rick Womer Creepy, Shel! How would this shot work with a polarizer and a BW conversion? http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
What's AWB? Auto White Balance? If so, no ... Shel [Original Message] From: Charles Robinson http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html ...and suddenly the steel skeleton looks like it is made out of grey clay. Were you using AWB?
Re: Daily Update-Petition Petition Survey
On 26/9/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: 84 hits on the web page and 17 submissions so far. Let's keep it going and spread the word! http://www.donsauction.com/Pentax for the survey. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for comments/suggestions. Don, I can't take part as I don't own / use a Pentax DSLR. Is this correct? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Duet
On 26/9/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks Shel. I shot a series. This is the only one with tit, but I prefer it to the others. As well as being clothed, it's hidden behind a guitar, and it's a bloke. C'mon Paul, you can do better than that ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Re: How Pentax Could Survive
That makes perfect sense. Rent or borrow some gear and see if it does the trick. Shel [Original Message] From: mike wilson From: Shel Belinkoff Since (at least as I read it) Herb is bitchin' and moaning about the failure of his gear to deliver the goods, I'd suggest he get faster and better gear, and see if that really nets better results. Why keep using Pentax gear if it doesn't do the job? In his position, I would certainly have hired a set of gear to make some decisive moments of more than one type.
Re: Re: Daily Update-Petition Petition Survey
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/26 Mon PM 02:21:22 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Daily Update-Petition Petition Survey On 26/9/05, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed: 84 hits on the web page and 17 submissions so far. Let's keep it going and spread the word! http://www.donsauction.com/Pentax for the survey. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for comments/suggestions. Don, I can't take part as I don't own / use a Pentax DSLR. Is this correct? It's a want list. You've been tempted, haven't you? - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: anybody still shoot film?
Resolution is not the only thing. Check out the link I posted previously. The Imacon scan was done at 3600ppi and the drum scan at 2400ppi. The drum scan was indubitably better even on the monitor at reduced size. http://www.xs4all.nl/~diax/pages/mamiya_boot_scan_compare.html# so folks won't have to look up the post. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 26, 2005, at 6:21 AM, mike wilson wrote: Theoretically yes, practically no. Unless like others have said you can afford to buy a 12000 dpi drum scanner or alternately afford to pay ~US $50 per scan for the privilege. And then it wouldn't be usable unless all colour/level/gamma adjustment could be perfected at the point of capture. This is what I find paradoxical about the whole digital revolution. On one hand, there are statements like the above - 12,000dpi to extract anything like the full information from a 35mm frame. On the other, there are the 6mp is enough brigade. I know they are not exclusive. As I said, the advantage of scanning devices like the Imacon is primarily tonal rendering, not significant image data. Of course, quantizing a unit area of film to a higher degree and providing more pixels will allow printing to even larger sizes. Digital printing is different compared to optical printing in that quality improves as you make the print larger right up to the point where pixelation becomes visible. So with a 12,000 ppi scan, you're going to be able to make a 60x40 inch enlargement at 300 ppi output size. But you're NOT going to see significantly more quality in an 11x17 inch print. How many 60x40 inch prints do you plan on making? ;-) To make an 13x19, 300ppi print from 35mm requires scanning at 4000 ppi. Unless you need a larger print, or need to crop a LOT, you don't need more. That I understand. Is the ISO scale linear wrt grain size? If so, I assume that to get the same effect from a 25ISO frame you will need to scan at 128,000dpi. Grain size is non-linear and complex to calculate as it changes with processing methodology, sensitivity, gamma, and acutance. Godfrey
Typing on a laptop:was: PAW: A Dancer's Arms
On 26/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Fanyastic picture Frank Gotta love Dave. Shall we club together and buy him a new keyboard? Cheers, Cotty Getting used to laptop keyboards now.LOL Dave
Re: How Pentax Could Survive
- Original Message - From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are wrong. Before that we were discussing content, and although the technicalities of the eagle pictures are brilliant the content as such is not very impressive. What Capturing animal behavior is one of the most interesting things about wildlife photography to me. How many times have you seen the behavior depicted in those shots in the wild much less captured them on film/digital? Perhaps you shouldn't comment on content/images/genre/technical ability/quality when you have no appreciation whatsoever for that type of photography. You mention HCB and others in a previous post; maybe you should stick to street photography Let's just say we differ in opinion about what is good content Christian
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
Oh No! How could ~that~ have happened ... thanks Mike LOL I think I've figured out a way to get it closer to the bleached bones effect that I want. Shel [Original Message] From: mike wilson http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html No blowout here but dramatically different colour casts. The full size is dark rusty brown, the detail is battleship grey.
RE: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way!
Great shots Charles, I like them. And I AGREE with you that manual focus and fast primes was probably if not the only way to go with these shots. BUT- I want too make it clear here, that these great photos and techniques just prove what I have been saying for the last week. AF is not always better than MF and MF lenses are easier to focus manually than AF lenses are able to focus manually. That's why the PENTAX K/M lenses are not just old lenses nobody wants according to numerous posters repeatedly. They fail to recognize the differences between MF and AF lenses. AF lenses cant do EVERYTHING the old K/M lenses still can do which is be more user friedly for MF situations AND there are far more wider selection of K/M type lenses than there is currently brand new. I don't think anybody can question that.. in -Original Message- From: Charles Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 11:15 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: GESO: IstDS and concert photography - manual focus is the best way! I tried to take some photos at a show with my kit lens and figured out after about 5 minutes that it was a hopeless disaster. Too dark, the focus would take forever. And the lens is just too slow at f5.6 from most of the zoom range. So I pulled out the old glass. A28 f2.8, A50 f1.7, M135 f2.5, and my dad's old M40-80 f2.8-4. These older lenses do a much better job of pulling in the light (although I discovered that the 40-80 zoom has some weird sort of blooming around the highlights. A disappointment as the zoom range was perfect for the close quarters I was working in.). Focus could have been even better if those darned band members would just stop moving! In any case, I'll just toss some of this junk out there. People will think it's OK or think that it stinks. I've seen so many amazing photos from this list in the past months that I'm almost afraid to share, but that's what a list is all about - sharing your ideas and your work. Looking forward to compliments or criticism, if anyone is so inclined. So here goes: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/2005_GreazyMeal -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: How Pentax Could Survive
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: Re: How Pentax Could Survive IMO, equipment is not a replacement for skill and ability, for dedication and knowledge. Here Here! To improve my bird photography I want 2 things right now: 1. Time to be in the field; to study the things, to watch their behavior and predict what's going to happen next; to find the right spots, etc. 2. Bigger glass. Yes I do need better gear. Any bird photographer worth his salt has a 600mm lens. It is required gear for these subjects. Yes, I CAN get and DO get by with a 300mm and some TCs, but it is not the same. As an aside, I mostly use MF when shooting birds, even in flight, because I find I get better results. And one more comment addressing my needs specifically, number 1.: This week I am attending a bird photography workshop with Greg Downing in Cape May, NJ. Christian
Re: Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/26 Mon PM 02:51:27 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail Oh No! How could ~that~ have happened ... thanks Mike LOL I think I've figured out a way to get it closer to the bleached bones effect that I want. Looking at it again, I thought maybe you'd done a part BW conversion but missed the background in the corner. Nah 8-) Bleached bones would be good. At the moment it looks like the work of someone who's not familiar with digital. 8- mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
Hello Shel, The highlights look ok on my monitor. That is truly a unique mailbox. One that I'd be apt to visit more than once. Seems like there must be some perfect lighting to really make it jump out from it's surroundings. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, September 26, 2005, 12:18:12 AM, you wrote: SB I live in a rather odd neighborhood. It's fairly rural and quite eclectic. SB Above Casa Belinkoff is almost 80,000 acres of park land and open space, SB down the hill are homes worth more than 500,000. Deer and coyote and fox SB abound. There's a small, old farm a short walk to the west, and some cute SB cottages and ramshackle old homes. In the middle of all this, the Hells SB Angels have a club house. In front of the club house is one of the most SB interesting and creative mailboxes I've ever seen. SB http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/angel_box.jpg SB Here's one version of a detail. I'm concerned that the brightest SB highlights might be blown out. I took 'em high intentionally, but some SB monitors may show them as fried. let me know ... SB http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html SB Shel
Re: Daily Update-Petition Petition Survey
In a message dated 9/26/2005 5:22:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 84 hits on the web page and 17 submissions so far. Let's keep it going and spread the word! http://www.donsauction.com/Pentax for the survey. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for comments/suggestions. Thanks! Don === Looks like a well-thought out petition, Don. Nice of you to do it. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO - Model Mantid
In a message dated 9/26/2005 6:47:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/mantid2.jpg Just grabbed one of these (Snake Mantid, Kongobatha diademata) from the garden and did some close-up shooting indoors. QD conversion, could be better but it does the job. Let me know what you think. It's been the first bit of real shooting I've done for quite a while. Cheers, David = Nice shot! Well lit and well composed, but, ugh, ugh, ugh. Marnie aka Doe :-)
OT - New Oly E500
Interesting that Oly has abandoned the weird look of the other 4/3 cameras with a real pentaprism on this new one: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0509/05092604olympuse500.asp Interesting price point too. Christian
RE: Temporarily enabled with 2.8/70-200mm
How is this an argument against an electronic aperture simlator as opposed to a mecahnical one? It is in fact possible to make an aperture ring that electronically controls the F-stop used during exposure. I guess this can even be done without an aperture simulator. A thumb wheel on the lens, so to speak. Prefereably a hard to move wheel. To me it's not important WHERE this controle is located. What is improtant is that it's not unintentionally moved. The thumb wheel on the body is prone to accidently being moved away from the wanted setting - or electronicaly overruled by some uncoprehesible flash automatics. The thumb wheel is easily moved unintentionaly. A very simple way to fix this would be to make it work in a way, that it has to be pushed forwards (into the body) before it can be moved. Or perhaps I just need a HOLD button, to secure my aperture setting. (Like the HOLD button on the MZ-S holds the shutter speed). To me this would be exactly as good a an aperture ring. Except for the fact, that I own some excellent lenses without an A-setting = no body controle available. When using a flash I can: 1) Use Manual Mode and use the green button - preset to activating the SPEED (Tv) according to the ambient light - to set the the proper speed. This can be done with non-A lenses. 2) Use Program Mode (PF=Hyper Mode ON in the PF dialog; meaning that the green button function is constantly ON in P-mode) and then preselect the aperture on the body. This requires the A-setting on the lens. If I had a HOLD APERTURE button I could make sure my aperture setting stays until I change it. Until I get a button like this, I prefere an aperture ring for flash photography. Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 26. september 2005 14:37 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Temporarily enabled with 2.8/70-200mm Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Robb wrote something that I snipped until this was left: The Canon rep told me (sorry, not compelling evidence, just anecdotal) that they felt accuracy and reliability would be improved by eliminating moving parts, as much as possible, and that in the long run, it would be cheaper for manufacture and, consequently, for the consumer to purchase. The accuracy comment makes sense. With an aperture ring you have detents for stops and half stops. Anything in between is a guess. Electronic aperture operation gives the photographer more precise control. Accuracy is certainly part of it. Almost all cameras are electronically controlled now, but you have to convert the electronic information into mechanical movement at some point. The closer this conversion is to the final mechanism, the fewer mechanical linkages you'll have in between and the better off you are. Also, having part of the mechanical system for aperture control in the camera body has a big (negative) effect on manufacturing and assembly costs; purely electronic stuff is much cheaper to assemble than mechanical/electronic stuff. This was, despite opinions to the contrary, a large part of the reason for Pentax ditching the potentiometer and aperture cam from their camera bodies. Canon and Minolta have got almost all the mechanical stuff except the shutter and mirror eliminated from their camera bodies and it pays big dividends in manufacturing costs. Pentax (and Nikon) would undoubtedly like to eliminate the stop-down lever and mechanism from their camera bodies but I don't see how they could do it without a wholesale lens mount change like what Canon Minolta did. If that happens we'll have some *real* lens mount issues! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
Hi Bruce ... When the ivy is fuller, and the light a little softer, the full sculpture does jump out from the background. Then, using a red filter and BW film nets some pretty nice results. The shot I posted was just a quick snap to show the piece in its entirety and in its surroundings, not as a quality photo. Earlier and later in the day works pretty well for color film, especially if the lighting is soft, as with a light cloud cover, and using a longer lens to blur the background is helpful as well. However, the time of day I was there yesterday was to take advantage of the lighting on the skull and face, to get a little extra contrast, as that's what I wanted to work with using the digi and to compare the 77mm and K85/1.8 lenses (the 77mm seems to be a scosh sharper, the 85mm has, at least in this instance, a nicer bokeh. Both are excellent optics). It's really a nice piece of art work. One of the biggest problems I have photographing it is that the neighbors usually have their car parked in such a way that it's difficult, if not sometimes impossible, to get a nice, uncluttered shot. Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton Hello Shel, The highlights look ok on my monitor. That is truly a unique mailbox. One that I'd be apt to visit more than once. Seems like there must be some perfect lighting to really make it jump out from it's surroundings. -- Best regards, Bruce http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html
Re: Temporarily enabled with 2.8/70-200mm
You could just learn how to hold the camera such that you didn't hit the thumbwheel control accidentally. It's pretty simple, really. I've moved aperture rings on lenses by accident too, until I trained myself not to grab the wrong ring. ;-) Godfrey On Sep 26, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: ... The thumb wheel is easily moved unintentionaly. A very simple way to fix this would be to make it work in a way, that it has to be pushed forwards (into the body) before it can be moved. Or perhaps I just need a HOLD button, to secure my aperture setting. (Like the HOLD button on the MZ-S holds the shutter speed). To me this would be exactly as good a an aperture ring. Except for the fact, that I own some excellent lenses without an A-setting = no body controle available. ... If I had a HOLD APERTURE button I could make sure my aperture setting stays until I change it. Until I get a button like this, I prefere an aperture ring for flash photography. ...
Re: How Pentax Could Survive
Marni AKA Doe said: Well, I am interested in wildlife photography and I have tried some. And it ain't easy. In fact, it's very difficult. So that affects my opinion. In those situations, it's better to get several shots rather than just one. And I am not even talking about making money on it, just getting the shots. Squirrels are the fastest d___ creatures, for instance. = Squirrels are relatively easy to photograph. They are curious, and for the most part used to humans. It's just a matter of taking the time to work with them. Last year I posted a few macro shots of squirrels made with the Sony digicam. One of the little creatures was so close that you could see the details of the deck and the house reflected in her eye.
Re: OT - New Oly E500
The only one that looked a little odd was the E300. The E1 is normal looking. But who cares how a camera look as long as it fits in your hands correctly and works well? Yes, the price point is very aggressive. Godfrey On Sep 26, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Christian wrote: Interesting that Oly has abandoned the weird look of the other 4/3 cameras with a real pentaprism on this new one: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0509/05092604olympuse500.asp Interesting price point too. Christian
Re: PAW PESO - Hells Angels' Mailbox Detail
OMG - what a picture! Gasha Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Bruce ... When the ivy is fuller, and the light a little softer, the full sculpture does jump out from the background. Then, using a red filter and BW film nets some pretty nice results. The shot I posted was just a quick snap to show the piece in its entirety and in its surroundings, not as a quality photo. Earlier and later in the day works pretty well for color film, especially if the lighting is soft, as with a light cloud cover, and using a longer lens to blur the background is helpful as well. However, the time of day I was there yesterday was to take advantage of the lighting on the skull and face, to get a little extra contrast, as that's what I wanted to work with using the digi and to compare the 77mm and K85/1.8 lenses (the 77mm seems to be a scosh sharper, the 85mm has, at least in this instance, a nicer bokeh. Both are excellent optics). It's really a nice piece of art work. One of the biggest problems I have photographing it is that the neighbors usually have their car parked in such a way that it's difficult, if not sometimes impossible, to get a nice, uncluttered shot. Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton Hello Shel, The highlights look ok on my monitor. That is truly a unique mailbox. One that I'd be apt to visit more than once. Seems like there must be some perfect lighting to really make it jump out from it's surroundings. -- Best regards, Bruce http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/w-face.html
