Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
On Dec 18, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Pål Jensen wrote: Better read his book Mountan light. Incidentally, his OP columns are published in book form as Galen Rowell's Vision: The Art of Adventure Photography and Galen Rowell's Inner Game of Outdoor Photography. All mandatory reading if you're interested in this type of photography. I'd second Mountain Light - every landscape photographer should read it. I wanted to buy a copy but the hardcover version is out of print. - Dave
Re: AA bis
On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: He was just driving by with his son when he saw the scene (and almost crashed the car when he did). He jumped out, set up his camera, found out the batteries in his light meter were dead, guesstimated the exposure and got one shot. Any photographer of any skill/experience level can relate to this kind of experience :) I certainly can, except for the dead batteries. Many of my favourite photos have been mostly due to simple luck. This one is probably the most lucky - I already had the photo composed and metered when the little wisp of cloud floated into view from behind the other clouds which were reasonably static. It was moving fast enough that I wouldn't have got the shot if I wasn't just about to trip the shutter already. I had enough presence of mind to hold off for a couple of seconds until the cloud was right where I wanted it. Another couple of seconds and it was gone. http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=4 BTW that's the full frame - I prefer to crop a bit off the right. The more I plan photos the worse they turn out... I once planned a mid-winter trip to a small mountain town so I could get some nice snow photos. Well that winter was unusually warm. We eventually found some small pockets of snow at the base of a couple of trees at the side of a road somewhere, where the sunlight wasn't reaching it. The following week, after we'd returned home, they got a massive dumping that even closed the roads. - Dave
RE: PEOW - UW Women's Volleyball NCAA Champions
Quite a nice shot. But I was disappointed - I thought the UW in the subject line stood for 'Underwater'... -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Jay Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2005 07:27 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PEOW - UW Women's Volleyball NCAA Champions Congratulations to the University of Washington women's volleyball team in capturing the Division 1 national championship today. They remained unbeaten throughout the entire tournament and swept the No. 1 ranked Nerbraska Cornhuskers in three straight games today. Managed to snap a few photos of the team earlier in the season with my then new FA 80-200 F/2.8 and the *istDS. Comments and critique welcome as usual. Thanks for looking. JayT http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/53671110.UW.jpg Handheld 1/750s f/4.0 at 170.0mm iso1600
RE: PAW: Redcoats!
I think it should be called The bellies are coming! The bellies are coming!. The guy in shades has been accidentally time-travelled from a Francoist Phalange parade. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2005 01:56 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PAW: Redcoats! Frank, I like it too. Found it interesting to examine each figure. The one hiding the whites of his eyes is also showing his individualism by wearing gloves. Obviously, having included all of the one/half guy on the far end would have improved the compositional balance and given us one more figure to study. Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alternate title: The British Are Coming, the British Are Coming. I think the third fellow from the left had heard that the Minutemen were told to hold their fire until they could see the whites of their eyes... vbg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690size=lg I actually like this one quite a bit. I think these guys started out trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada had been surprisingly grueling g. Your comments are always appreciated. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Bounce flash AF280T
Hello, I recently bought a used Pentax AF280T, with auto and TTL features. This flash should be capable for being used for bounce flash, isn't it? When I use the 'test' button, I only get the green light when aiming the flashlight directly to the subject. Even in a room with a low, white ceiling, I couln't get the green light when aiming the flashlight to the ceiling (completely vertical, or at an angle slightly towards the subject). The flash was in auto-mode. I tried both green and red mode. What does this mean? I had the impression that this flash is quite powerful, even to today's standards? What's the use of combining swiveling flashhead and auto/TTL measuring features if they won't work together? Not wanting to use direct flash, I ended up opening two stops above the flash-indicated setting, hoping this will give me acceptable exposure... (results to be expected still). Slightly disappointed greetings, but with remaining hope that someone of you will let mee see the light... Groeten, Vic
Re: FS: 100mm SMC F 1:2.8 Macro $300
Hernán's lens comes from a batch of lenses bought by a pharmaceutical company for a particular research project. They wanted a setup where the distance from subject to front of lens was constant, and solved it by fastening the lenses to a ring by three tightening screws. When the project was over, all the lenses were sold on the second hand market. I think one of the major reatailers in NYC (BH, KEH or Adorama) bought most of them. My lens is from the same batch. I bought it through eBay from a seller in Texas, who had bought it from NYC. The marks on the lens are round, roughly 2mm across, and on the outside of the filter ring. They are purely cosmetic, and can easily be covered up with some black paint if desired. I have left mine as is, because I think the history of the lens adds some curious interest. Cheers, Jostein Quoting Hernán Mouro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a 100mm SMC F 1:2.8 Macro for sale. I bought it from a member of the list in 2001. In fact, I found the original message from Stan Halpin offering it: http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg20022.html The lens is still in very good condition, it is the best lens I ever had by far (I haven't had many lenses, though!). In the message by Stan you can see it came from a lab and that there are three visible indentations in the outside of the filter ring. Does NOT hurt the ability to screw on a hood or filter. I have no experience as to be able to judge its condition, but Stan said aperture, lens surfaces, external cosmetics all in EXC or EXC+ and it keeps working great. I'm selling it to rise the money for a DSLR, I've already sold my 35mm, and . I'm asking the same I payed for it: $300 (+ shipping). I hope someone will enjoy this lens as much as I did. Best wishes, Hernan Mouro Davis, CA. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
RE: AA bis
Copying a masters work can very well be the first step of a creative process. All craft learning actaully starts by learning basic skills and theory and by copying the teachers, masters, tutors etc. There's nothing wrong in learning from others and trying to master the craftsmanship. Great masters were'nt born that way. They too did learn from their masters. All the photographs I have seen has influenced me. And they will continue to do so. I believe. Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: DagT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. december 2005 00:04 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: AA bis Den 15. des. 2005 kl. 21.32 skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: AA bis Copying a masters works is a good way to learn. However it takes creativity to become a master oneself. Copying St. Ansel is a creative challenge all by itself. A challenge, yes, but not creative. DagT
Re: GESO: eyes wide open - learning to use the 15mm
On 18/12/05, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: I find the 15mm/3.5 really hard to use. Not that it isn't a great lens, which it undoubtedly is. But I find it hard to get a composition that interests me. Keeping the background undistracting is a task. And I even find it tricky to see exactly what is in focus. I've had the lens for a few months now, and have only managed to get a handful of shots that I like. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index5/05_12_15mm/index.htm Will persist. I like both Pellican shots. I can't believe he let you get that close! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Bounce flash AF280T
Hi Vic, There are a few things to remember when using bounce flash: 1.) A ceiling, even a white one, diffuses and absorbs a lot of light. Losing 1-3 stops of light isn't uncommon. 2.) When bouncing, the distance from flash to subject increases dramatically, it becomes the distance from flash to ceiling plus from ceiling to subject. Since light decreases in proportion to the _square_ of the distance, doubling the distance decreases the light to 1/4. 3.) When bouncing, the flash should be aimed about 1/2 way to the subject, aiming straight up puts most of the light on you, not the subject. This is most evident when the ceiling is low. Think of bouncing a rubber ball off the ceiling and hitting the subject. Also, if this is a flash that has not been used for a while it has probably lost a good bit of its power. This can be remedied by forming the capacitor in the flash. To do this let the flash charge up for several minutes and then fire it in manual to get a full discharge. Repeat this 10-20 times, this should bring the capacitor back to near full efficiency. The 280t is a very good flash, it is still a _current model_, pretty impressive in this day and age! HTH Don -Original Message- From: Vic Mortelmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:57 AM To: pentax epostlijst Subject: Bounce flash AF280T Hello, I recently bought a used Pentax AF280T, with auto and TTL features. This flash should be capable for being used for bounce flash, isn't it? When I use the 'test' button, I only get the green light when aiming the flashlight directly to the subject. Even in a room with a low, white ceiling, I couln't get the green light when aiming the flashlight to the ceiling (completely vertical, or at an angle slightly towards the subject). The flash was in auto-mode. I tried both green and red mode. What does this mean? I had the impression that this flash is quite powerful, even to today's standards? What's the use of combining swiveling flashhead and auto/TTL measuring features if they won't work together? Not wanting to use direct flash, I ended up opening two stops above the flash-indicated setting, hoping this will give me acceptable exposure... (results to be expected still). Slightly disappointed greetings, but with remaining hope that someone of you will let mee see the light... Groeten, Vic
Re: Home Renovation web page
On 18/12/05, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed: That looks great Cotty - is there a working farm behind it? Yup. I always make friends with the farmers, they're mighty allies. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PAW: Redcoats!
On 17/12/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690size=lg I actually like this one quite a bit. I think these guys started out trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada had been surprisingly grueling g. Your comments are always appreciated. Only 7 and a half men ;-) Very nice shot Frank, but persoanlly I'l lose mr half-dude on the right. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Another black and white conversion
IT's very nice. But I still think there's too much yoghurt-look to the skin tone. This may or may not disappear, when printed, depending on which paper is used. The whiteness of a computerscreen is not really the best for BW photographs. One more thing. It is considered approppriate for portraits only to hav ONE white spot in the eyes. I'd choose to remove one of them. This photograph is certainly worth it. All the best Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2005 06:00 Til: Pentax Discuss Emne: Another black and white conversion This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what you think. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono-3.html William Robb
PESO: Library add
This shot (heavily cropped) was one of a series I made for an advertising campaign for the public library. The library had appointed this model, in order to promote the library to the ethnic minorities in the community. Comments are as always welcome. BTW: Soon I have taken 26000 pictures with my * ist D. In one year and 4 months - that's still 54 shots a day in average. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/74728359/ Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk
Re: PEOW - UW Women's Volleyball NCAA Champions
Nice composition, interesting moment. A little oversaturated and yellow tinted on my monitor. Midtones are a bit dark as well, although highlights and shadow levels appear good. If you shot in RAW, you might want to go back and adjust the color temperature and tint a bit while increasing the brightness. On Dec 18, 2005, at 2:26 AM, Jay Taylor wrote: Congratulations to the University of Washington women's volleyball team in capturing the Division 1 national championship today. They remained unbeaten throughout the entire tournament and swept the No. 1 ranked Nerbraska Cornhuskers in three straight games today. Managed to snap a few photos of the team earlier in the season with my then new FA 80-200 F/2.8 and the *istDS. Comments and critique welcome as usual. Thanks for looking. JayT http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/53671110.UW.jpg Handheld 1/750s f/4.0 at 170.0mm iso1600
Re: Another black and white conversion
In recent years I've seen quite a few fashion shots with double catch lights. It's not necessarily a bad thing. I kind of like it, and I'm guessing Bill does as well. Extra twinkle :-). Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:51 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: IT's very nice. But I still think there's too much yoghurt-look to the skin tone. This may or may not disappear, when printed, depending on which paper is used. The whiteness of a computerscreen is not really the best for BW photographs. One more thing. It is considered approppriate for portraits only to hav ONE white spot in the eyes. I'd choose to remove one of them. This photograph is certainly worth it. All the best Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2005 06:00 Til: Pentax Discuss Emne: Another black and white conversion This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what you think. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono -3.html William Robb
Re: PESO: Library add
Nice shot. Excellent light yielded nice facial contouring and detail. Good work. On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:56 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: This shot (heavily cropped) was one of a series I made for an advertising campaign for the public library. The library had appointed this model, in order to promote the library to the ethnic minorities in the community. Comments are as always welcome. BTW: Soon I have taken 26000 pictures with my * ist D. In one year and 4 months - that's still 54 shots a day in average. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/74728359/ Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk
Re: Another black and white conversion
I agree. This is surely one of those rules that are made to be broken. John On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:07:07 -, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent years I've seen quite a few fashion shots with double catch lights. It's not necessarily a bad thing. I kind of like it, and I'm guessing Bill does as well. Extra twinkle :-). Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:51 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: IT's very nice. But I still think there's too much yoghurt-look to the skin tone. This may or may not disappear, when printed, depending on which paper is used. The whiteness of a computerscreen is not really the best for BW photographs. One more thing. It is considered approppriate for portraits only to hav ONE white spot in the eyes. I'd choose to remove one of them. This photograph is certainly worth it. All the best Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2005 06:00 Til: Pentax Discuss Emne: Another black and white conversion This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what you think. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono-3.html William Robb -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
RE: PESO: Library add
Thanks Paul. That's really too kind. I had some trouble with the light, since I was using my old stobe outfit (Metz 45's and one Metz 60, mounted on Osram Pilot's, with home made softboxes or umbrellas. I've started using a flash reflected off the cieling, rather than the commonly used hair light w. honey comb filter. It works well and is not as uncontrolable as the honey comb strobe, whic has to hit the subject very accurately. What do you guys use for hair light? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. december 2005 13:09 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: PESO: Library add Nice shot. Excellent light yielded nice facial contouring and detail. Good work. On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:56 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: This shot (heavily cropped) was one of a series I made for an advertising campaign for the public library. The library had appointed this model, in order to promote the library to the ethnic minorities in the community. Comments are as always welcome. BTW: Soon I have taken 26000 pictures with my * ist D. In one year and 4 months - that's still 54 shots a day in average. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/74728359/ Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk
Re: Pentax Stock Sale
People seldom makes investments with the intention of losing money. And people seldom make investments of a reasonable size without doing a little research first. What is also interesting is that the value of Pentax's shares has doubled in the last six months. Somebody should tell the prophets of doom. John On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:01:00 -, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=16312496 Maybe someone who knows more about corporate stuff can than I do can tell us what this means. Joe -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Pentax Stock Sale
Haven't heard from Herb Chong in quite a while Shel ... [Original Message] From: John Forbes What is also interesting is that the value of Pentax's shares has doubled in the last six months. Somebody should tell the prophets of doom.
Re: Pentax Stock Sale
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=16312496 Maybe someone who knows more about corporate stuff can than I do can tell us what this means. It does mean what it says - somebody thinks Pentax have great potential. What Pentax is working on is probably known by insiders. Personally, I think what was formerly known as Medium Format have great poetntial in digital. The first one who can manufacture MF digital to affordable prices (well at least semi-affordable) would experience quite a success. And I believe that only a volume manufacturer could be in that position. Pål
Re: Pentax manuals
The manuals published on that site are (as far as I experienced) very poor quality. Better get them here: http://www.pentax-manuals.com/ Groeten, Vic Jack Isidore wrote: Pentax manuals are available online http://www.pentaximaging.com/customer_care/manuals_literature On 12/17/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have experience ordering printed manuals from Pentax? Do you know if they are the original manuals or photocopies? If they're copies, how's the quality? Thanks! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Bounce flash AF280T
Hello Don, Thanks! Clarifies already a lot. When in auto red mode and using ISO200 film, the flash says to use f/5.6 aperture. These settings, when using the flash in manual mode (=maximum power?), would give a reach of 7m (24ft). That's not quite a lot, considering all light-loss factors that you mention before, which explains why I couldn't get proper exposure for bounce flash in auto mode (even if it is not optimally formed---which I will certainly try out). Basically, the conclusion seems that the flash is (even theoretically) not powerful enough for bounce flash in auto mode (at f/5.6,ISO200). Using another film is no solution, as the flash compensates f-value for ISO-value. Something I could try is to switch to TTL-mode, so I can set the aperture to whatever I want (f/2 e.g.) and use more sensitive film. This will stretch my bouncing-range significantly, I'd imagine. Does this reasoning sound sane? Groeten, Vic Don Sanderson wrote: Hi Vic, There are a few things to remember when using bounce flash: 1.) A ceiling, even a white one, diffuses and absorbs a lot of light. Losing 1-3 stops of light isn't uncommon. 2.) When bouncing, the distance from flash to subject increases dramatically, it becomes the distance from flash to ceiling plus from ceiling to subject. Since light decreases in proportion to the _square_ of the distance, doubling the distance decreases the light to 1/4. 3.) When bouncing, the flash should be aimed about 1/2 way to the subject, aiming straight up puts most of the light on you, not the subject. This is most evident when the ceiling is low. Think of bouncing a rubber ball off the ceiling and hitting the subject. Also, if this is a flash that has not been used for a while it has probably lost a good bit of its power. This can be remedied by forming the capacitor in the flash. To do this let the flash charge up for several minutes and then fire it in manual to get a full discharge. Repeat this 10-20 times, this should bring the capacitor back to near full efficiency. The 280t is a very good flash, it is still a _current model_, pretty impressive in this day and age! HTH Don -Original Message- From: Vic Mortelmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:57 AM To: pentax epostlijst Subject: Bounce flash AF280T Hello, I recently bought a used Pentax AF280T, with auto and TTL features. This flash should be capable for being used for bounce flash, isn't it? When I use the 'test' button, I only get the green light when aiming the flashlight directly to the subject. Even in a room with a low, white ceiling, I couln't get the green light when aiming the flashlight to the ceiling (completely vertical, or at an angle slightly towards the subject). The flash was in auto-mode. I tried both green and red mode. What does this mean? I had the impression that this flash is quite powerful, even to today's standards? What's the use of combining swiveling flashhead and auto/TTL measuring features if they won't work together? Not wanting to use direct flash, I ended up opening two stops above the flash-indicated setting, hoping this will give me acceptable exposure... (results to be expected still). Slightly disappointed greetings, but with remaining hope that someone of you will let mee see the light... Groeten, Vic
Re: PESO: Library add
When I use a hair light, it's a small 150 watt monolight with a snorkel. It's adjust able to four different output levels, so it's fairly easy to balance when shooting digital. Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 7:51 Att M, Jens Bladt wrote: Thanks Paul. That's really too kind. I had some trouble with the light, since I was using my old stobe outfit (Metz 45's and one Metz 60, mounted on Osram Pilot's, with home made softboxes or umbrellas. I've started using a flash reflected off the cieling, rather than the commonly used hair light w. honey comb filter. It works well and is not as uncontrolable as the honey comb strobe, whic has to hit the subject very accurately. What do you guys use for hair light? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. december 2005 13:09 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: PESO: Library add Nice shot. Excellent light yielded nice facial contouring and detail. Good work. On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:56 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: This shot (heavily cropped) was one of a series I made for an advertising campaign for the public library. The library had appointed this model, in order to promote the library to the ethnic minorities in the community. Comments are as always welcome. BTW: Soon I have taken 26000 pictures with my * ist D. In one year and 4 months - that's still 54 shots a day in average. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/74728359/ Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk
SV: Another black and white conversion
To me this is not a rule, that must be obeyed. It simply make the photographs more subtle, balanced and adds credibility to the picture. In other words, it simply looks better. Especially a small mirror imgage in the eyes of person showing an umbrella, isn't very pretty. Of cource, that's just my opinion. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. december 2005 13:18 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Another black and white conversion I agree. This is surely one of those rules that are made to be broken. John On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:07:07 -, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent years I've seen quite a few fashion shots with double catch lights. It's not necessarily a bad thing. I kind of like it, and I'm guessing Bill does as well. Extra twinkle :-). Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:51 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: IT's very nice. But I still think there's too much yoghurt-look to the skin tone. This may or may not disappear, when printed, depending on which paper is used. The whiteness of a computerscreen is not really the best for BW photographs. One more thing. It is considered approppriate for portraits only to hav ONE white spot in the eyes. I'd choose to remove one of them. This photograph is certainly worth it. All the best Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2005 06:00 Til: Pentax Discuss Emne: Another black and white conversion This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what you think. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono-3.html William Robb -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: PEOW - UW Women's Volleyball NCAA Champions
In a message dated 12/17/2005 11:26:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Comments and critique welcome as usual. Thanks for looking. JayT http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/53671110.UW.jpg Handheld 1/750s f/4.0 at 170.0mm iso1600 = Nice shot -- good detail and strong composition. Marnie aka Doe
PAW: Redcoats! Redux
Based on some comments received WRT the original post, I've fiddled around with it (mostly cropped a bit but also slightly different levels adjustments): http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3958764size=lg For your reference, here's the original: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690size=lg Waddya think? Better, worse, same, indifferent either way? How would you have cropped the original? Much as I don't like to crop, this is one that requires it, so I'd be interested to know (since I so rarely crop, I'm not very good at it). Thanks for your input! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Pentax Stock Sale
Herb will eventually explain why this sale is an obvious indication of Pentax' imminent demise. Doom and darkness are upon us! Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 8:16 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Haven't heard from Herb Chong in quite a while Shel ... [Original Message] From: John Forbes What is also interesting is that the value of Pentax's shares has doubled in the last six months. Somebody should tell the prophets of doom.
RE: Another black and white conversion
Please take a look: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/74759996/ Hope it's OK, I posted this, Paul. I'll delete it again shortly. Regards Jens To me this is not a rule, that must be obeyed. It simply make the photographs more subtle, balanced and adds credibility to the picture. In other words, it simply looks better. Especially a small mirror imgage in the eyes of person showing an umbrella, isn't very pretty. Of cource, that's just my opinion. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. december 2005 13:18 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Another black and white conversion I agree. This is surely one of those rules that are made to be broken. John On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:07:07 -, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent years I've seen quite a few fashion shots with double catch lights. It's not necessarily a bad thing. I kind of like it, and I'm guessing Bill does as well. Extra twinkle :-). Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:51 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: IT's very nice. But I still think there's too much yoghurt-look to the skin tone. This may or may not disappear, when printed, depending on which paper is used. The whiteness of a computerscreen is not really the best for BW photographs. One more thing. It is considered approppriate for portraits only to hav ONE white spot in the eyes. I'd choose to remove one of them. This photograph is certainly worth it. All the best Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2005 06:00 Til: Pentax Discuss Emne: Another black and white conversion This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what you think. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono-3.html William Robb -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux
In a message dated 12/18/2005 6:18:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Waddya think? Better, worse, same, indifferent either way? How would you have cropped the original? Much as I don't like to crop, this is one that requires it, so I'd be interested to know (since I so rarely crop, I'm not very good at it). Thanks for your input! cheers, frank == You did fine. Yes, the crop is better. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Another black and white conversion
It's Bill Robb's photo, not mine. Single catch lights are nice here, but so are the doubles. It's an easy switch. Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:23 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: Please take a look: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/74759996/ Hope it's OK, I posted this, Paul. I'll delete it again shortly. Regards Jens To me this is not a rule, that must be obeyed. It simply make the photographs more subtle, balanced and adds credibility to the picture. In other words, it simply looks better. Especially a small mirror imgage in the eyes of person showing an umbrella, isn't very pretty. Of cource, that's just my opinion. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. december 2005 13:18 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Another black and white conversion I agree. This is surely one of those rules that are made to be broken. John On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:07:07 -, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent years I've seen quite a few fashion shots with double catch lights. It's not necessarily a bad thing. I kind of like it, and I'm guessing Bill does as well. Extra twinkle :-). Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:51 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: IT's very nice. But I still think there's too much yoghurt-look to the skin tone. This may or may not disappear, when printed, depending on which paper is used. The whiteness of a computerscreen is not really the best for BW photographs. One more thing. It is considered approppriate for portraits only to hav ONE white spot in the eyes. I'd choose to remove one of them. This photograph is certainly worth it. All the best Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2005 06:00 Til: Pentax Discuss Emne: Another black and white conversion This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what you think. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono -3.html William Robb -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
RE: PAW: Redcoats! Redux
Hi Frank, Ideally, more careful framing when making the photo may have yielded a better photo from the start, assuming that you could get the entire man on the right and that there were no major distracting elements visible when so doing. However, this crop is a great improvement over the original. It's got more strength and greater impact. Shel [Original Message] From: frank theriault Based on some comments received WRT the original post, I've fiddled around with it (mostly cropped a bit but also slightly different levels adjustments): http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3958764size=lg For your reference, here's the original: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690size=lg Waddya think? Better, worse, same, indifferent either way? How would you have cropped the original? Much as I don't like to crop, this is one that requires it, so I'd be interested to know (since I so rarely crop, I'm not very good at it). Thanks for your input! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: FS: 100mm SMC F 1:2.8 Macro $300
Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hernán's lens comes from a batch of lenses bought by a pharmaceutical company for a particular research project. They wanted a setup where the distance from subject to front of lens was constant, and solved it by fastening the lenses to a ring by three tightening screws. When the project was over, all the lenses were sold on the second hand market. I think one of the major reatailers in NYC (BH, KEH or Adorama) bought most of them. My lens is from the same batch. I bought it through eBay from a seller in Texas, who had bought it from NYC. The marks on the lens are round, roughly 2mm across, and on the outside of the filter ring. They are purely cosmetic, and can easily be covered up with some black paint if desired. I have left mine as is, because I think the history of the lens adds some curious interest. Thanks for the background story, Jostein! I have one of these lenses too. Bought it from KEH. Other than a 50/1.4, it was the first high end Pentax lens I ever purchased. What an introduction to good glass! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Pentax Stock Sale
John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People seldom makes investments with the intention of losing money. And people seldom make investments of a reasonable size without doing a little research first. What is also interesting is that the value of Pentax's shares has doubled in the last six months. Somebody should tell the prophets of doom. They'll fins *some* way of putting a negative spin on it... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Another black and white conversion
I agree with Jens in this instance. While a double catch light may be OK, it depends on the photo and what's reflected in the eye(s). Shel ... [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist It's Bill Robb's photo, not mine. Single catch lights are nice here, but so are the doubles. It's an easy switch. Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:23 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: Please take a look: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/74759996/ Hope it's OK, I posted this, Paul. I'll delete it again shortly. Regards Jens To me this is not a rule, that must be obeyed. It simply make the photographs more subtle, balanced and adds credibility to the picture. In other words, it simply looks better. Especially a small mirror imgage in the eyes of person showing an umbrella, isn't very pretty. Of cource, that's just my opinion. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. december 2005 13:18 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Another black and white conversion I agree. This is surely one of those rules that are made to be broken. John On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:07:07 -, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent years I've seen quite a few fashion shots with double catch lights. It's not necessarily a bad thing. I kind of like it, and I'm guessing Bill does as well. Extra twinkle :-). Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:51 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: IT's very nice. But I still think there's too much yoghurt-look to the skin tone. This may or may not disappear, when printed, depending on which paper is used. The whiteness of a computerscreen is not really the best for BW photographs. One more thing. It is considered approppriate for portraits only to hav ONE white spot in the eyes. I'd choose to remove one of them. This photograph is certainly worth it. All the best Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2005 06:00 Til: Pentax Discuss Emne: Another black and white conversion This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what you think. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono -3.html William Robb -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Bounce flash AF280T
Vic, I'm not sure which green light you're talking about but the flash does indeed work in Auto, TTL modes while bounced and swiveled. CW - Original Message - From: Vic Mortelmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax epostlijst pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:56 AM Subject: Bounce flash AF280T Hello, I recently bought a used Pentax AF280T, with auto and TTL features. This flash should be capable for being used for bounce flash, isn't it? When I use the 'test' button, I only get the green light when aiming the flashlight directly to the subject. Even in a room with a low, white ceiling, I couln't get the green light when aiming the flashlight to the ceiling (completely vertical, or at an angle slightly towards the subject). The flash was in auto-mode. I tried both green and red mode. What does this mean? I had the impression that this flash is quite powerful, even to today's standards? What's the use of combining swiveling flashhead and auto/TTL measuring features if they won't work together? Not wanting to use direct flash, I ended up opening two stops above the flash-indicated setting, hoping this will give me acceptable exposure... (results to be expected still). Slightly disappointed greetings, but with remaining hope that someone of you will let mee see the light... Groeten, Vic -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 12/16/2005
Spied online FS: LX/Super program kit.
I saw a kit with lenses, LX, and a Super Program in Craig's List today. I don't know this guy but thought it might interest somebody here: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/bar/111489215.html CW
Re: AA bis
David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: He was just driving by with his son when he saw the scene (and almost crashed the car when he did). He jumped out, set up his camera, found out the batteries in his light meter were dead, guesstimated the exposure and got one shot. Any photographer of any skill/experience level can relate to this kind of experience :) I certainly can, except for the dead batteries. Many of my favourite photos have been mostly due to simple luck. I think Moonrise Over Hernandez is the quintessential example of the old saying about luck being when preparation meets opportunity. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: GESO: eyes wide open - learning to use the 15mm
Wide angle lenses do create a dilemma at times. So much included vs how much do I want. Can be a very dramatic tool, but only if you allow it to perform. Considering the setting, I think your composition choices, especially that including the stationary Peli, were well done. The nicely placed vortex shot makes me wonder, when water runs down a drain in the southern hemisphere, does it, as has been claimed, circle clockwise or counter clockwise? Jack --- Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the 15mm/3.5 really hard to use. Not that it isn't a great lens, which it undoubtedly is. But I find it hard to get a composition that interests me. Keeping the background undistracting is a task. And I even find it tricky to see exactly what is in focus. I've had the lens for a few months now, and have only managed to get a handful of shots that I like. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index5/05_12_15mm/index.htm Will persist. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
SV: Another black and white conversion
Sorry. I'll correct it at once. Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. december 2005 15:27 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Another black and white conversion It's Bill Robb's photo, not mine. Single catch lights are nice here, but so are the doubles. It's an easy switch. Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:23 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: Please take a look: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/74759996/ Hope it's OK, I posted this, Paul. I'll delete it again shortly. Regards Jens To me this is not a rule, that must be obeyed. It simply make the photographs more subtle, balanced and adds credibility to the picture. In other words, it simply looks better. Especially a small mirror imgage in the eyes of person showing an umbrella, isn't very pretty. Of cource, that's just my opinion. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. december 2005 13:18 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Another black and white conversion I agree. This is surely one of those rules that are made to be broken. John On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:07:07 -, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent years I've seen quite a few fashion shots with double catch lights. It's not necessarily a bad thing. I kind of like it, and I'm guessing Bill does as well. Extra twinkle :-). Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:51 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: IT's very nice. But I still think there's too much yoghurt-look to the skin tone. This may or may not disappear, when printed, depending on which paper is used. The whiteness of a computerscreen is not really the best for BW photographs. One more thing. It is considered approppriate for portraits only to hav ONE white spot in the eyes. I'd choose to remove one of them. This photograph is certainly worth it. All the best Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. december 2005 06:00 Til: Pentax Discuss Emne: Another black and white conversion This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what you think. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono -3.html William Robb -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Bill Owens update
Mark Roberts wrote: I don't know that it would be appropriate to post it to the list, but if anyone wants to send Bill a card I'll give you his address in a private email. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com Mark - yes send the address please - ann To me aswell Mark. Dave
Re: GFM contest question
Not my fault your speedometers have wonky dials on them.. William Robb and you thought it was flat too :) actually - you do have an excuse... it is Roberts who is really the scary one - he knows the roads :) a Chuckle, Chuckle. You noticed then i had trouble staying with him, eh. If those walkie talkies i had with me had a bit more power in the hills i would have felt better.:-) Dave
Re: Bounce flash AF280T
Vic, It does work as a bounce flash. I don't know what your film speed or subject distances are, but try bounce at a 45 degree angle about 6 feet from subject at ASA 400. With a low ceiling, this should light the green light. Regards, Bob S. On 12/18/05, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vic, I'm not sure which green light you're talking about but the flash does indeed work in Auto, TTL modes while bounced and swiveled. CW - Original Message - From: Vic Mortelmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax epostlijst pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:56 AM Subject: Bounce flash AF280T Hello, I recently bought a used Pentax AF280T, with auto and TTL features. This flash should be capable for being used for bounce flash, isn't it? When I use the 'test' button, I only get the green light when aiming the flashlight directly to the subject. Even in a room with a low, white ceiling, I couln't get the green light when aiming the flashlight to the ceiling (completely vertical, or at an angle slightly towards the subject). The flash was in auto-mode. I tried both green and red mode. What does this mean? I had the impression that this flash is quite powerful, even to today's standards? What's the use of combining swiveling flashhead and auto/TTL measuring features if they won't work together? Not wanting to use direct flash, I ended up opening two stops above the flash-indicated setting, hoping this will give me acceptable exposure... (results to be expected still). Slightly disappointed greetings, but with remaining hope that someone of you will let mee see the light... Groeten, Vic -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 12/16/2005
Re: AA bis
I read another version of the circumstances surrounding this accidental shot. As I remember the story, Ansel was on the other side of the road working on a shot of a stump. The stump wasn't revealing anything he considered worthy of recording and he finally decided to end the effort. He then turned away and, at that point, saw the Hernandez scene across the road. With very little light remaining, he shouted bring me the 8x10..hurry, or some such phrase. Seems he only had one plate loaded... or similar dilemma, but I don't have anything like a clear recollection of what the author claimed pursued. I've sincerely tried to appreciate this image. I gaze at it, put myself there, let it wash over me, but inevitable come away slightly dissatisfied with my artistic connection. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: He was just driving by with his son when he saw the scene (and almost crashed the car when he did). He jumped out, set up his camera, found out the batteries in his light meter were dead, guesstimated the exposure and got one shot. Any photographer of any skill/experience level can relate to this kind of experience :) I certainly can, except for the dead batteries. Many of my favourite photos have been mostly due to simple luck. I think Moonrise Over Hernandez is the quintessential example of the old saying about luck being when preparation meets opportunity. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: GFM contest question
Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William Robb wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele graywolf wrote: Correction 46 minutes to Boone, 1 hour to Johnson City, 2 hours to Asheville (according to my map software). Unless you are driving with Wheatfield - then it's 20 min to Boone, 30 min to Johnson Cityetc :) ann of the white knuckles Not my fault your speedometers have wonky dials on them.. and you thought it was flat too :) actually - you do have an excuse... it is Roberts who is really the scary one - he knows the roads :) When you ride with an ex-roadracer on winding roads, you should know what to expect! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Bill Owens update
Hi Mark, Thanks for the updates on Bill. I would like his email addy please to send him a little note to get well soon. Thanks, Steve - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill Owens update I don't know that it would be appropriate to post it to the list, but if anyone wants to send Bill a card I'll give you his address in a private email. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PAW: Redcoats!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690size=lg I actually like this one quite a bit. I think these guys started out trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada had been surprisingly grueling g. Your comments are always appreciated. Nice photo. Actually, my reaction is, doesn't that idiot third from the right realize they didn't have raybans back then? Ruins the whole look. ;-) I am weird sometimes. Sometimes? ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: GFM contest question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not my fault your speedometers have wonky dials on them.. William Robb and you thought it was flat too :) actually - you do have an excuse... it is Roberts who is really the scary one - he knows the roads :) a Chuckle, Chuckle. You noticed then i had trouble staying with him, eh. Yes - both when I was driving with you and when I was driving with _him_ :) If those walkie talkies i had with me had a bit more power in the hills i would have felt better.:-) Not me, he had to slow down because they didnt ... :) Hey, Mark - if you are reading this thanks for the info you sent off line - I tried to respond but your over active spam blocker bounced me a Dave
Re: Bill Owens update
- Original Message - From: Steve Larson Subject: Re: Bill Owens update Hi Mark, Thanks for the updates on Bill. I would like his email addy please to send him a little note to get well soon. You'd better go with his street address in Gastonia. I have a feeling Bill won't be checking his email for a while. William Robb
Re: AA bis
David Mann wrote: On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: He was just driving by with his son when he saw the scene (and almost crashed the car when he did). He jumped out, set up his camera, found out the batteries in his light meter were dead, guesstimated the exposure and got one shot. Any photographer of any skill/experience level can relate to this kind of experience :) I certainly can, except for the dead batteries. Many of my favourite photos have been mostly due to simple luck. Tell me :) http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=4 BTW that's the full frame - I prefer to crop a bit off the right. Nice one - I don't think I'd crop it at all actually. Hmmm. The more I plan photos the worse they turn out... (snip details) - Dave Yeah, I can't count the ones that fizzled when I actually had time to park myself for a couple of an hours with a 400mm and a tripod and then you shoot a whole bunch of insurance shots just to prove you were there... ann
Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux
On 18/12/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Based on some comments received WRT the original post, I've fiddled around with it (mostly cropped a bit but also slightly different levels adjustments): http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3958764size=lg Way to go Frank. That's a great pic, and would sit nicely on the front page of a newspaper ;-) Well done mate! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux
Much improved. I like it. Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Cotty wrote: On 18/12/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Based on some comments received WRT the original post, I've fiddled around with it (mostly cropped a bit but also slightly different levels adjustments): http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3958764size=lg Way to go Frank. That's a great pic, and would sit nicely on the front page of a newspaper ;-) Well done mate! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux
Nice It really works well as a BW picture Dave On 18/12/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Based on some comments received WRT the original post, I've fiddled around with it (mostly cropped a bit but also slightly different levels adjustments): http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3958764size=lg
Re: Pentax Stock Sale
Den 18. des. 2005 kl. 15.39 skrev Mark Roberts: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People seldom makes investments with the intention of losing money. And people seldom make investments of a reasonable size without doing a little research first. What is also interesting is that the value of Pentax's shares has doubled in the last six months. Somebody should tell the prophets of doom. They'll fins *some* way of putting a negative spin on it... Of course: It is the results of rumors spread by those who know in order to increase the value if their shares before they sell. Inside trading of this kind is well known by conspirators. .-) DagT
Another DAM book
Not really, this is a new book devoted to Digital Asset Management from the viewpoint of the photographer. http://thedambook.com/ I picked it up yesterday at the local Barnes and Noble and have been using it as an excuse to not finish those Christmas Cards. Chapter 1 is downloadable from the web site as a PDF. I bet a bunch of you guys buy this book. See you later, gs http://www.georgesphotos.net
Re: Pentax Stock Sale
On 12/18/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't heard from Herb Chong in quite a while I'll give it a go. g SPARX is buying 20% of Pentax to get a board seat, from which it will influence the complete sale of Pentax to Samsung. Once the acquisition is complete, SPARX will dump its stock, make a gazillion dollars, and then fade away into the back room obscurity from whence it came. Meanwhile, Samsung will develop a new K mount and a line of lenses for it. Of course, there will be adapters allowing the use of new glass on old bodies. Old glass will never, ever fit on new bodies. It will be impossible. At this point all of my Pentax glass becomes an instant collector's item which I will sell for 10 bajillion dollars and then buy Canon gear, because Canon is the best and they'll be around longer than God. Muhahahahahah! For some strange reason, your Pentax glass will become worthless paperweights. The remainder of Pentax will then be sold to Sony who will revive the old K mount, but will lens protect the bodies so that they will only work with new Sony lenses. Within 3 days of the new bodies hitting the market a 12 year old with an SMC-Takumar 50/1.4 will defeat the lens protections using a 120 film spool and some candle wax. Shel ... -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PAW: Redcoats!
In a message dated 12/18/2005 7:45:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am weird sometimes. Sometimes? ;-) -- Mark Roberts == I knew I left myself open. Marnie aka Doe Okay, most of the time. ;-)
Re: Pentax manuals
Thanks for all the replies and thanks for the links. I was really looking for an original physical copy in decent shape, which I think I have found. Thanks again! On 12/17/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have experience ordering printed manuals from Pentax? Do you know if they are the original manuals or photocopies? If they're copies, how's the quality? Thanks! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux
Very nice! Made me laugh, too. On 12/18/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on some comments received WRT the original post, I've fiddled around with it (mostly cropped a bit but also slightly different levels adjustments): http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3958764size=lg For your reference, here's the original: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690size=lg Waddya think? Better, worse, same, indifferent either way? How would you have cropped the original? Much as I don't like to crop, this is one that requires it, so I'd be interested to know (since I so rarely crop, I'm not very good at it). Thanks for your input! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
RE: Another DAM book
Does this mean we can stop calling ourselves photographers now, and start calling ourselves digital asset managers? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: George Sinos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2005 18:23 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Another DAM book Not really, this is a new book devoted to Digital Asset Management from the viewpoint of the photographer. http://thedambook.com/ I picked it up yesterday at the local Barnes and Noble and have been using it as an excuse to not finish those Christmas Cards. Chapter 1 is downloadable from the web site as a PDF. I bet a bunch of you guys buy this book. See you later, gs http://www.georgesphotos.net
Re: Amature
In a message dated 12/13/2005 10:08:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've posted my best pictures so far at: http://dapjang.deviantart.com/gallery/ Some outstanding photos, Sunny, -- moody with good compositions -- in various moods. Actually, I was a bit amazed at the variety of the shots. (Although a gallery presentation where I could use a next button/arrow would be nice.) You definitely have talent. Please continue to hang around the list. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
Jack Davis wrote: I can allow that Dewitt has written for NG without jealousy or resentment. Jack --- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:01 PM 12/17/2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote: Tom C wrote: Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas on how to look at things and find the shot. Ah yes, Dewitt I shoot for National Geographic Jones. Way more mentions of shooting for NG in his columns than there are mentions of him in NG's index. I'm not familiar with Dewitt Jones and how often he brings up that fact, but I have to say that if I had shot for National Geographic, I would have to mention it at least a few times in public. ;) take care, Glen I haven't shot for National Geographic... yet. Berry During the period when I used to read Outdoor Photographer (several years ago) I noticed that Dewitt Jones brought up his shooting for National Geographic in every single column at least once. Since I was also in the habit of reading National Geographic and had never noticed his name in a byline or photo credit, I eventually looked him up in the index and found a small number of references, but he still really isn't one of the first, say, twenty names that would come to my mind if I were trying to think of National Geographic photographers. Just struck me as major name-dropping, the way he kept on with it, and persistent name-droppers just set my teeth on edge. 'Course, I haven't read OP in many years, so for all I know, by now Dewitt Jones could have died, retired, or stopped referring to himself as an NG photographer every month, (Rowell died way after I stopped reading the mag) and the text may now have its typos corrected before printing. For all I know.
Re: AA bis
Pretty typical statement for someone who has lots of good luck, but does not even recognize it as such. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Mark Roberts wrote: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: He was just driving by with his son when he saw the scene (and almost crashed the car when he did). He jumped out, set up his camera, found out the batteries in his light meter were dead, guesstimated the exposure and got one shot. Any photographer of any skill/experience level can relate to this kind of experience :) I certainly can, except for the dead batteries. Many of my favourite photos have been mostly due to simple luck. I think Moonrise Over Hernandez is the quintessential example of the old saying about luck being when preparation meets opportunity.
Re: PESO: Library add
In a message dated 12/18/2005 3:57:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: Soon I have taken 26000 pictures with my * ist D. In one year and 4 months - that's still 54 shots a day in average. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/74728359/ Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk == Very nice. I find the size a bit odd, but knowing it was part of ad campaign sort of explains it. Quite a nice portrait -- I like the background color -- sets her off. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Another black and white conversion
In a message dated 12/16/2005 9:02:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is mostly just farting around with a picture, but see what you think. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0138-mono-3.html William Robb == Other people can tell you if you are doing the BW conversion right much better than clueless I can. This one sort of bother me, because she looks sort of airbrushed. Something about her skin. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO - Fractal Frost
In a message dated 12/17/2005 12:27:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shiver... Taken this morning. *ist D and FA 100 f/2.8 Macro. Shooting up through the tops of some Aspen branches. ISO 200, 1/250, f/14. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957235 Tom C. Quite a nice shot. Interesting pattern. But, think I'd like it better with the background a tad less purple. But then purple is one of my least favorite colors. :-) Also so that the there is more differentiation between the background and the branches. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PAW: Redcoats!
Hmmm...Seems like this is one of those times that color would be helpful. Without your explanation, I would have no idea these are supposed to be redcoats. What actually is interesting to me in the shot, is the difference in each face. The guy with shades helps to bring that out. I like it, but perhaps for a different reason than you - more of a character study/comparison for me. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 17, 2005, 5:05:33 PM, you wrote: ft Alternate title: The British Are Coming, the British Are Coming. ft I think the third fellow from the left had heard that the Minutemen ft were told to hold their fire until they could see the whites of their ft eyes... vbg ft http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690size=lg ft I actually like this one quite a bit. I think these guys started out ft trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of ft parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada ft had been surprisingly grueling g. Your comments are always ft appreciated. ft cheers, ft frank ft -- ft Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux
As I said earlier, I like this new version much better. But because I have no problem either cropping or doing anything else necessary to get the result I want, I would have taken this a step further and cloned out the remainder of the redcoat on the far right of frame. It's a simple PhotoShop job. About five minutes work. Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: Very nice! Made me laugh, too. On 12/18/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on some comments received WRT the original post, I've fiddled around with it (mostly cropped a bit but also slightly different levels adjustments): http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3958764size=lg For your reference, here's the original: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690size=lg Waddya think? Better, worse, same, indifferent either way? How would you have cropped the original? Much as I don't like to crop, this is one that requires it, so I'd be interested to know (since I so rarely crop, I'm not very good at it). Thanks for your input! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO - Fractal Frost
I've looked at this one several times and played with it a bit. I like the image in general - nice abstract. I think I have finally pinpointed what is bothering me...the snow/frost on the branches is just too blue - at first I was thinking more about contrast, but after playing around that wasn't it, after correcting for the blue, the image feels better to me. Whether blue or white, it is a very interesting image and one that takes a sharp eye to pick out. Nice work. -- Bruce Saturday, December 17, 2005, 12:26:32 PM, you wrote: TC Shiver... TC Taken this morning. *ist D and FA 100 f/2.8 Macro. Shooting up through the TC tops of some Aspen branches. ISO 200, 1/250, f/14. TC http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957235 TC Tom C.
Re: Another DAM book
Only if you have pointy hair. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bob W wrote: Does this mean we can stop calling ourselves photographers now, and start calling ourselves digital asset managers? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: George Sinos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2005 18:23 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Another DAM book Not really, this is a new book devoted to Digital Asset Management from the viewpoint of the photographer. http://thedambook.com/ I picked it up yesterday at the local Barnes and Noble and have been using it as an excuse to not finish those Christmas Cards. Chapter 1 is downloadable from the web site as a PDF. I bet a bunch of you guys buy this book. See you later, gs http://www.georgesphotos.net
Re: PESO - Start the day (or Coffee, Juice, Sigarette)
In a message dated 12/16/2005 9:26:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! I think this is one of your best, Boris. Well done! Thanks... Though I didn't receive your reply in my mailbox... Very strange... As you can see it is a citation from another person's response... Please try this URL: http://www.photo-forum.ru/photo/242720/index.en.html PhotoForum is hickupping. Sorry. Boris I finally got this one to load -- after trying 3-5 times. Okay, I like it. It's simple, it has nice detail, and nice blank contrasting areas/colors. She looks the way I feel before I have my first cigarette of the day. Or as I have it. But I suspect only smokers might like this shot. ;-) The pic doesn't say a lot, but does say something about that first cigarette. Marnie aka Doe ;-)
Re: AA bis
The preparation was applied while spending endless hours in the darkroom agonizing over printing Hernandez the way He saw it. Hard to believe the time He spent printing that particular image. Purportedly, His most sought after. In fact, one of His books identified it as the main reasons He finally decided to stop providing personally done prints. Jack --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty typical statement for someone who has lots of good luck, but does not even recognize it as such. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Mark Roberts wrote: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2005, at 6:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: He was just driving by with his son when he saw the scene (and almost crashed the car when he did). He jumped out, set up his camera, found out the batteries in his light meter were dead, guesstimated the exposure and got one shot. Any photographer of any skill/experience level can relate to this kind of experience :) I certainly can, except for the dead batteries. Many of my favourite photos have been mostly due to simple luck. I think Moonrise Over Hernandez is the quintessential example of the old saying about luck being when preparation meets opportunity. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: PAW: Redcoats! Redux
Another 5 minutes work and you could make 'em all look like David Hasselhof. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2005 19:32 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux As I said earlier, I like this new version much better. But because I have no problem either cropping or doing anything else necessary to get the result I want, I would have taken this a step further and cloned out the remainder of the redcoat on the far right of frame. It's a simple PhotoShop job. About five minutes work. Paul
Re: Dear Santa
He brought a nice Tilt-shift lens. Made by ? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:32 PM Subject: Re: Dear Santa No more list here. Santa's (that's right, Santa and not the holiday gift-person) been. He brought a nice Tilt-shift lens and the PZ-1p has already made friends with it. Tomorrow I'll introduce it to the MZ-S. Cheers, Gautam On 12/9/05, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Santa: I have been a very good boy this year. I always ate my vegetables, and I even cleaned my room. Please leave me one or more of the following this year: 1. *istDS2. No need for the kit lens, just the body please. 2. 2GB SD cards. Two of them, please. 3. FA31/1.8 Limited. I've been VERY good. 4. Manfrotto carbon fiber tripod. Or a gym membership so I can carry my Tiltall. 5. Zenitar 16mm fisheye lens. 6. Peace on earth, and good will to men. Sincerely, Mat Maessen (hey, I can dream, can't I?)
Re: Redcoats!
I like it Knarf. My only nit is the cutoff guy on the RH side. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: Redcoats! Alternate title: The British Are Coming, the British Are Coming. I think the third fellow from the left had heard that the Minutemen were told to hold their fire until they could see the whites of their eyes... vbg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690size=lg I actually like this one quite a bit. I think these guys started out trying to look as fierce as possible, but it seems that the rigors of parading the 1/2 mile down King Street in Gananoque, Ontario, Canada had been surprisingly grueling g. Your comments are always appreciated. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Library add
Hello Jens, The ethnicity certainly comes out - no question about that. Looks like you did your work well on this one. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, December 18, 2005, 3:56:42 AM, you wrote: JB This shot (heavily cropped) was one of a series I made for an advertising JB campaign for the public library. JB The library had appointed this model, in order to promote the library to the JB ethnic minorities in the community. JB Comments are as always welcome. JB BTW: Soon I have taken 26000 pictures with my * ist D. In one year and 4 JB months - that's still 54 shots a day in average. JB http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/74728359/ JB Jens Bladt JB http://www.jensbladt.dk
Re: PAD - photo a day
In a message dated 12/15/2005 4:17:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to present you my site - http://pad.go.pl All of the pictures were taken with pentax gear : k2 or mesuper with 50/1.2 or 28/3.5 with few exceptions for the pentax gear I don't have anymore ;-) I hope you'll like it :-) = Some nice stuff, you have a good eye. I didn't look at them all, just randoming picked out about four. I suggest you pick out one a week that you especially like and post the link as a PESO. To let us updated on what you are doing and get feedback. Otherwise it will be too overwhelming for most of us. :-) A photo a day, huh? Ambitious. Better you than I. ;-) But more power to you and keep up the good work. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PEOW - UW Women's Volleyball NCAA Champions
My feelings exactly. Nice shot, too. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, December 18, 2005, 4:03:21 AM, you wrote: PS Nice composition, interesting moment. A little oversaturated and yellow PS tinted on my monitor. Midtones are a bit dark as well, although PS highlights and shadow levels appear good. If you shot in RAW, you might PS want to go back and adjust the color temperature and tint a bit while PS increasing the brightness. PS On Dec 18, 2005, at 2:26 AM, Jay Taylor wrote: Congratulations to the University of Washington women's volleyball team in capturing the Division 1 national championship today. They remained unbeaten throughout the entire tournament and swept the No. 1 ranked Nerbraska Cornhuskers in three straight games today. Managed to snap a few photos of the team earlier in the season with my then new FA 80-200 F/2.8 and the *istDS. Comments and critique welcome as usual. Thanks for looking. JayT http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/53671110.UW.jpg Handheld 1/750s f/4.0 at 170.0mm iso1600
Re: PAW: Redcoats!
The guy with the glassses is obviously a volunteer from California! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAW: Redcoats! On 12/17/05, Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What era redcoats are they? Can't be American Revolution era. Maybe War of 1812? Maybe that rebellion in one of the Canadian provinces. Well, the whites of their eyes thing was just a joke (had to say something about those sunglasses, which would be inappropriate and inaccurate for whatever era they're from). Anyway, Jim, I don't know for sure what era they're from, but I'd think War of 1812 would be much more likely than War of Independance. The photo was taken near Kingston, Ontario (which has a Canadian Armed Forces base, BTW), and the War of 1812 would have played a large part in the history of that area of Canada; much more so that the War of Independance. Kingston is steeped in military history, and several War of 1812 battles were fought in the vicinity. This group was marching in the Christmas parade in the Town of Gananoque, about 20 miles down the road. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Pentax Stock Sale
Buying big chunks of existing stock does not help the company much. Buying a new issue provides them with working funds. 20%+ of existing stock looks like the start of a hostile takeover. Of course it could just be that they see Pentax as a good investment right now. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Mark Erickson wrote: Sometimes purchases like this are a good thing. For example, the Texas Pacific Group, a private investment firm, purchased a large stake in Ducati back in 1996. Ducati used the money as working capital and TPG got them to tighten up their operation, improve their quality control, and get back on their feet. We're on (or maybe just past) the cusp of a big shift from film to digital. Pentax is a player, so maybe these guys see opportunity. Or maybe they're hoping to turn a quick buck by selling Pentax to Samsung. We'll see --Mark Joe, Most corporations that have somebody else buy 20% of their stock start looking over their shoulders at what the investor has in mind. Are they buying to force the company to split up or merge with another corporation? But I know nothing about Japanese corporate culture... Regards, Bob S. On 12/17/05, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=16312496 Maybe someone who knows more about corporate stuff can than I do can tell us what this means. Joe
Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
Apparently, you can't. Jack --- E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: I can allow that Dewitt has written for NG without jealousy or resentment. Jack --- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:01 PM 12/17/2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote: Tom C wrote: Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas on how to look at things and find the shot. Ah yes, Dewitt I shoot for National Geographic Jones. Way more mentions of shooting for NG in his columns than there are mentions of him in NG's index. I'm not familiar with Dewitt Jones and how often he brings up that fact, but I have to say that if I had shot for National Geographic, I would have to mention it at least a few times in public. ;) take care, Glen I haven't shot for National Geographic... yet. Berry During the period when I used to read Outdoor Photographer (several years ago) I noticed that Dewitt Jones brought up his shooting for National Geographic in every single column at least once. Since I was also in the habit of reading National Geographic and had never noticed his name in a byline or photo credit, I eventually looked him up in the index and found a small number of references, but he still really isn't one of the first, say, twenty names that would come to my mind if I were trying to think of National Geographic photographers. Just struck me as major name-dropping, the way he kept on with it, and persistent name-droppers just set my teeth on edge. 'Course, I haven't read OP in many years, so for all I know, by now Dewitt Jones could have died, retired, or stopped referring to himself as an NG photographer every month, (Rowell died way after I stopped reading the mag) and the text may now have its typos corrected before printing. For all I know. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux
Excellent! But we need the Hasselhof head. Do you have it? On Dec 18, 2005, at 2:49 PM, Bob W wrote: Another 5 minutes work and you could make 'em all look like David Hasselhof. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2005 19:32 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux As I said earlier, I like this new version much better. But because I have no problem either cropping or doing anything else necessary to get the result I want, I would have taken this a step further and cloned out the remainder of the redcoat on the far right of frame. It's a simple PhotoShop job. About five minutes work. Paul
Pentax 645
Can anyone, please, tell me if the manual 645 body provides mirror lockup? Thanks, Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Another DAM book
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: Another DAM book Does this mean we can stop calling ourselves photographers now, and start calling ourselves digital asset managers? Dam imagers. William Robb
Re: AA bis
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: AA bis The preparation was applied while spending endless hours in the darkroom agonizing over printing Hernandez the way He saw it. Hard to believe the time He spent printing that particular image. Purportedly, His most sought after. In fact, one of His books identified it as the main reasons He finally decided to stop providing personally done prints. Much of that preparation was also knowing his film, equipment and light. I recall reading one of AAs descriptions of the scene. He had no meter available, but he knew the required exposure (more or less), because he knew what the luminance of the moon was. The negative was, apparently, somewhat underexposed. I saw an original Moonrise, signed by St. Ansel in a gallery in Santa Fe some years ago. He hadn't quite secured the depth of field required, and if you look carefully, you can see the crosses in the graveyard are slighly soft. They wanted $15,000 for the print, and had I been able to afford it, I would have bought it. It was a lovely photograph. Being able to hold an original AA print in my hands was quite a nice experience as well. William Robb
Re: GESO: eyes wide open - learning to use the 15mm
Derby Was the darkened sky at the top of the second Pelican shot done in Photoshop? Not lens vignetting I trust! I thought the tree shot was terrific. This wide angle thing is a particularly virulent form of LBA. I've got an 8mm Peleng on the way, to add to the Sigma 12-24 and the Pentax fisheye zoom. Now if I bought a 15mm, that would only leave the 14mm DA and the new fisheye zoom then I would be cured. Thanks for showing us these shots Peter
Re: GESO: eyes wide open - learning to use the 15mm
In a message dated 12/17/2005 10:35:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I find the 15mm/3.5 really hard to use. Not that it isn't a great lens, which it undoubtedly is. But I find it hard to get a composition that interests me. Keeping the background undistracting is a task. And I even find it tricky to see exactly what is in focus. I've had the lens for a few months now, and have only managed to get a handful of shots that I like. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/index5/05_12_15mm/index.htm Will persist. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like the trees. The swirly shot didn't do as much for me as I thought it would (I thought from the thumbnail it looked interesting) -- closer up I felt it had too *much* swirl. The pelican might have been better if you were lower down (try Christian's frying pan tripod :-)), his head was too much in line with the horizon, would have been nice to have more of him silhouetted against the sky. A note, I prefer PESOs to GESOs. I rarely have the time to spend much time looking at GESOs. Lots of times I just skip them completely. The exception for me, is PDML meets, etc. And I know I am not the only one who feels that way. Trees are nice. Keep trying. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Redcoats! Redux
Works for me Knarf. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: Redcoats! Redux Based on some comments received WRT the original post, I've fiddled around with it (mostly cropped a bit but also slightly different levels adjustments): http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3958764size=lg For your reference, here's the original: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3957690size=lg Waddya think? Better, worse, same, indifferent either way? How would you have cropped the original? Much as I don't like to crop, this is one that requires it, so I'd be interested to know (since I so rarely crop, I'm not very good at it). Thanks for your input! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Pentax 645
No it doesn't, and the 645N demonstrated that there is no difference between using the MLU or not using it with a well damped mirror like the one of the 645. MLU on the 645N was only added for marketing reasons, since so many asked for it. And someone wrote that Pentax has no marketing! Dario - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:58 PM Subject: Pentax 645 Can anyone, please, tell me if the manual 645 body provides mirror lockup? Thanks, Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
OT: Photoshop BW Converson Tones
On the last set of Mom hands I showed (where most liked them, not her hand and mine, the one where I asked if the thumb was too light), someone sent me a variation that I liked. He said he used 16 bit to get more subtle variation in tones. I notice when one imports a RAW into PS one can import it as 16 bit. So I am wondering how many of you do that? Specifically when making a BW conversion. But also with color. Does it make a difference if you later save it as a JPEG (8-bit)? Can you get sublter tonal values for BW? (And maybe subtler color ranges for color?) Or is it all lost again when one saves it later as an 8-bit? Probably someone has asked this before, I vaguely remember that they have. But I wasn't paying attention then. :-) TIA, Marnie
Re: Pentax 645
- Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] No it doesn't, and the 645N demonstrated that there is no difference between using the MLU or not using it with a well damped mirror like the one of the 645. MLU on the 645N was only added for marketing reasons, since so many asked for it. I disagree. There are several instances when you cannot put a camera on a ideal surface where the small difference with or without mirror lock actually makes a difference. However, for ordinary shooting condition the lack of mirror lock is a non-issue. The mirror pre-fire function is also nice elimination the need for a remote release. Pål
Re: OT: Photoshop BW Converson Tones
I never work in any other mode than 16 bit, it preserves data and prevents 'hstogram jaggies' that cause posterization. I convert to 8 bit as the last step before saving the final jpeg. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the last set of Mom hands I showed (where most liked them, not her hand and mine, the one where I asked if the thumb was too light), someone sent me a variation that I liked. He said he used 16 bit to get more subtle variation in tones. I notice when one imports a RAW into PS one can import it as 16 bit. So I am wondering how many of you do that? Specifically when making a BW conversion. But also with color. Does it make a difference if you later save it as a JPEG (8-bit)? Can you get sublter tonal values for BW? (And maybe subtler color ranges for color?) Or is it all lost again when one saves it later as an 8-bit? Probably someone has asked this before, I vaguely remember that they have. But I wasn't paying attention then. :-) TIA, Marnie
RE: PAW: Redcoats! Redux
...and then some: http://uhura.cc.rochester.edu/~jg001g/hassel.htm -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2005 19:56 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux Excellent! But we need the Hasselhof head. Do you have it? On Dec 18, 2005, at 2:49 PM, Bob W wrote: Another 5 minutes work and you could make 'em all look like David Hasselhof. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2005 19:32 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux As I said earlier, I like this new version much better. But because I have no problem either cropping or doing anything else necessary to get the result I want, I would have taken this a step further and cloned out the remainder of the redcoat on the far right of frame. It's a simple PhotoShop job. About five minutes work. Paul
Re: OT: Photoshop BW Converson Tones
Ditto. But I rarely save as jpeg. I save full-size files as tiffs. Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Adam Maas wrote: I never work in any other mode than 16 bit, it preserves data and prevents 'hstogram jaggies' that cause posterization. I convert to 8 bit as the last step before saving the final jpeg. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the last set of Mom hands I showed (where most liked them, not her hand and mine, the one where I asked if the thumb was too light), someone sent me a variation that I liked. He said he used 16 bit to get more subtle variation in tones. I notice when one imports a RAW into PS one can import it as 16 bit. So I am wondering how many of you do that? Specifically when making a BW conversion. But also with color. Does it make a difference if you later save it as a JPEG (8-bit)? Can you get sublter tonal values for BW? (And maybe subtler color ranges for color?) Or is it all lost again when one saves it later as an 8-bit? Probably someone has asked this before, I vaguely remember that they have. But I wasn't paying attention then. :-) TIA, Marnie
Re: PAW: Redcoats! Redux
On 18/12/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: ...and then some: http://uhura.cc.rochester.edu/~jg001g/hassel.htm ROTFL!!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Pentax 645
Yes, Pal I do agree. It's forever been a deal breaker when I learn a body does not allow such. Auto pre-flash or the manual ability to lock up the mirror and then set the self-timer, is ideal. Too much hyper-focus work, using 100 ISO film, to do without it. --- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] No it doesn't, and the 645N demonstrated that there is no difference between using the MLU or not using it with a well damped mirror like the one of the 645. MLU on the 645N was only added for marketing reasons, since so many asked for it. I disagree. There are several instances when you cannot put a camera on a ideal surface where the small difference with or without mirror lock actually makes a difference. However, for ordinary shooting condition the lack of mirror lock is a non-issue. The mirror pre-fire function is also nice elimination the need for a remote release. Pål __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Photoshop BW Converson Tones
In a message dated 12/18/2005 12:39:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ditto. But I rarely save as jpeg. I save full-size files as tiffs. Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Adam Maas wrote: I never work in any other mode than 16 bit, it preserves data and prevents 'hstogram jaggies' that cause posterization. I convert to 8 bit as the last step before saving the final jpeg. -Adam Well, I use JPEGs on web pages, but I actually usually print from a resized RAW. When I print which isn't that often. At least, that's what I remember doing, but it's been a while. :-)Maybe I've printed from a PDF. Thanks, I've never imported a RAW as 16-bit. Obviously, I could be doing it better. Marnie
RE: Bill Owens update
Also my words, Manuel from Portugal -Mensagem original- De: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: sábado, 17 de Dezembro de 2005 16:23 Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Assunto: Re: Bill Owens update Ditto. Dario from Italy - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Bill Owens update I haven't met Bill either, but he's been an important part of the PDML for many years, and I've enjoyed his on-line company very much. Please send him my best. Paul
Re: Pentax 645
On 2005-12-18, at 21:07, Dario Bonazza wrote: No it doesn't, and the 645N demonstrated that there is no difference between using the MLU or not using it with a well damped mirror like the one of the 645. I'm not sure of what you said. My friends who use the oldest 645 report that it has quite noticable mirror shock. But much different story is with 645N, which I tried and was really surprised of how well this big mirror is. MLU on the 645N was only added for marketing reasons, since so many asked for it. ??? I thought it was added on 645NII :-) And someone wrote that Pentax has no marketing! As we can see it has. But only in professional market ;-) -- Best regards Sylwek
Re: OT: Photoshop BW Converson Tones
I actually do both, save as 16bit PSD in ProPhotoRGB for archive and JPEG in sRGB for display and printing. I've got an action that does all this for me when I'm done editing. -Adam Paul Stenquist wrote: Ditto. But I rarely save as jpeg. I save full-size files as tiffs. Paul On Dec 18, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Adam Maas wrote: I never work in any other mode than 16 bit, it preserves data and prevents 'hstogram jaggies' that cause posterization. I convert to 8 bit as the last step before saving the final jpeg. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the last set of Mom hands I showed (where most liked them, not her hand and mine, the one where I asked if the thumb was too light), someone sent me a variation that I liked. He said he used 16 bit to get more subtle variation in tones. I notice when one imports a RAW into PS one can import it as 16 bit. So I am wondering how many of you do that? Specifically when making a BW conversion. But also with color. Does it make a difference if you later save it as a JPEG (8-bit)? Can you get sublter tonal values for BW? (And maybe subtler color ranges for color?) Or is it all lost again when one saves it later as an 8-bit? Probably someone has asked this before, I vaguely remember that they have. But I wasn't paying attention then. :-) TIA, Marnie
