date:20060305

> I don't think there's any reason to be concerned about that.  Taylor has
> not messed with any of my "projects" thus far, and seems to have no
> interest in such things.  He was, however, intrigued by the various bird
> pics that have appeared on the screen the past couple of days.

Har! So now we can engage Taylor's services in order to judge the
quality of bird pictures... That's cool ;-).

--
Boris

Re: PAW - Rest Stop Memorial

Interspersed


> [Original Message]
> From: frank theriault 

> I don't see that the photo is tilted, but maybe I'm slow and foggy,
> too .  I agree that there are no horizontal or vertical lines, but
> to my mind (both at the time of shooting, and now), the result of all
> those lines is "not tilted".  Whatever the situation, I don't see the
> orientation (whether tilted or not) as anything I tried to do
> intentionally;  rather I felt (and still do) that I shot the scene as
> presented to me.

That's just amazing to me ... that we see the same photo so differently. 
To me it's tilted, and quite obviously so.  I guess this just goes to prove
something my ex-wife told me: people experience things differently.


> As far as the Pepsi machines, two thoughts come to mind.  First of
> all, placing the row of vending machines in the sight-line of the
> memorial was rather unfortunate, and in my mind trivializes the
> monument.  In fact, I think its sanctity and "sacredness" (for lack of
> a better term) is severely compromized.

OK, I can understand that, but, your following comment has a lot more
validity and import for me.

> Secondly, to me, it spoke to the corperatization of war.  I couldn't
> help but wonder if that's what war's about these days:  corporate
> interests.  There's a movie playing in one or two theatres here in
> Toronto called "What We Fought For", and I was thinking of making that
> the (ironic) title of this photo.

I'm familiar with the movie, but, more than that, I recall Eisenhower
giving the speech - vaguely, but I remember it. 
 

> I guess that I'm reading way to much into it, but that's what I
> thought.  In any event, I think that the poor positioning of the
> monument is an insult to the soldiers that it was intended to honour.

Perhaps you are, but it's your photo and your experience, so don't discount
it.

Cheers!

Shel

Pentax restructuring Netherlands subsidiary

2006-03-05 Thread Thibouille

http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200611.html

It concerns the whole Benelux for who cares (me certainly).
Note the Capital of the old company and the one of the new company.
Seems interesting: good sign IMO.

--
Thibouille
--
*ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...

Re: PESO - Taylor, A New Cat in the Household

I don't think there's any reason to be concerned about that.  Taylor has
not messed with any of my "projects" thus far, and seems to have no
interest in such things.  He was, however, intrigued by the various bird
pics that have appeared on the screen the past couple of days.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Boris Liberman 

> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/taylor/Album/
>
> Shel, please pass my regards to Taylor... Hope he does not inflict 
> damage on our project ;-).

Re: PESO Robin

2006-03-05 Thread David Mann


On Mar 6, 2006, at 7:57 AM, mike wilson wrote:


You'll probably like this, also, then.

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/sillymolecules/sillymols.htm


Yes, I do.  I'll forward it to my partner who works in the chemistry  
field...


- Dave

Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style

2006-03-05 Thread David Mann


On Mar 6, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Bob Shell wrote:

I haven't done much bird photography in recent years.  Mostly these  
days when I go for hikes I just take binoculars and come back with  
memories.  But I used to do a lot of bird photography in earlier  
times, and may make a return to it when I can take life at a slower  
pace.


I just watch them in the back yard.  I've had a go at photographing  
them a couple of times but it needs too much patience :)


I've always wanted to try and get a photo of a fantail but I doubt  
it'll be possible.  They're never still and their flight, despite  
being quite slow, is so unpredictable that they look drunk (they feed  
on airborne insects).


- Dave

OT PESO - Night on Queen St

2006-03-05 Thread Adam Maas


http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/108513965/

Queen St West in Toronto, Nikon F3HP, Series E 35mm f2.5, (not)Agfa 
Silvertone 400 in Rodinal 1:25

Re: PESO: Lived to tell about it


Hi!


On 3/4/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Shot this fellow at Starbucks a few hours ago and lived to tell about
it:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4185457


That's a great shot, Paul.  Your seemed to have captured some
"personality" here (whether it's actually ~his~ personality or not is
another matter ).  He certainly seems a character!


Frank, what's good about your comments is that very often I could just 
say "ditto" and be done with it ;-).


Paul, I indeed agree with Frank.

Boris

Re: PESO - Taylor, A New Cat in the Household


Hi!


Yesterday Taylor arrived at Casa Belinkoff.  He's a 7 month old black male
cat who was rescued from an abandoned feral litter.  He readily took to his
new home, exploring the place and making himself comfortable.  I put
together a little gallery for a couple of friends, my sister, and my niece.
I'm posting it here because a month or two back we were discussing using
some programs for creating web galleries, one of which was Porta.  This
little gallery was made with Porta, and once the pics were sized and
processed, it took all of one second to create the gallery.

Anyway, here's Taylor - all pics made with an old Sony P&S and the built-in
flash.  Nothing particularly good, just a few fun, personal snaps.

http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/taylor/Album/


Shel, please pass my regards to Taylor... Hope he does not inflict 
damage on our project ;-).


Boris

Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style


Hi!

Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed up 
this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most of 
the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super flash 
on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier attached. ISO 
800, f5.6 @ 1/750th.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg


Paul, have pity on the little fellow - Sigma 500 super flash *with* 
flash magnifier... Hope you did not give little bird a big heart attack ;-).


Cool stuff...

Boris

Re: PESO: Still winter


Hi!


This is a shot I took today - a small creek somewhere in Denmark - perhaps
40 km from Copenhagen.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/108172005/
Comments are welcome, naturally.


Jens, this is excellent as quite many shots from you. Well, it makes me 
think of the earliest days of spring in the country where I used to live 
;-).


Boris

Re: PAW - Rest Stop Memorial


Hi!


Taken on the way back from last year's GFM.

I couldn't help but notice the Pepsi machines in the background, and
they brought to mind many interesting thoughts, most of which are
probably best not expressed here.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4185547&size=lg


Frank, your photo contains a message. Either this message comes through 
to the person who looks at the photo, or it does not.


It works for me. Some people have no sensibility once they see the 
dollar signs in their eyes...


Boris

Re: PESO: Boulogne sur Mer


Hi!


Here you go:
http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1306663


Ralf, this is pretty serious stuff ;-). Looks like a good place for two 
Highlander heroes to sort out their relations.


Anyways, this is indeed very good photo.

Boris

Re: GESO - Shots from my first outings with my IIIf.


Hi!

This is OT because it is not Pentax-related, but people have asked so 
here it is:


http://groups.msn.com/myrugbypictures/iiifinitiation.msnw?Page=1

I was so pleased to see the first shot - Post No Bills - on my first 
roll.  This one I saw out of the corner of my eye.  I quickly estimated 
distance - the light had not changed since my last shot - and shot from 
the hip.  I am so happy with the results.


The problem I will have is finding the proper utilization of this 
camera/lens combination here.  I am biding my time before even thinking 
about buying another lens :-)  Now, if I were in an urban 
environment...  I just have to await the festivals I attend and put on.


Cesar, the last shot is probably the best. At least to my eye/taste. 
They are rather difficult to do with digital, so I kinda envy you ;-).


I think PDML will allow you to keep enabling yourself with finest gear, 
and I mean Leica... So, you should be "even thinking" already...


Having met Bob W in person and having witnessed his work with Leica and 
finally having seen the results I must say - go for it!


Boris

Re: Constructive-Destructive critisisim wanted for these photos


Dave,


I'm asking for comments, as this may lead to more work, and i want to
see what the collective has to say. Looking for positive and negative
should they deserve either.

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/


I am not much of an expert in shoots like this. Yet, they all seem 
rather similar among themselves... Rather static.


The spot lighting is cool, though it is probably not your idea ;-).

Also, perhaps if you posted slightly larger files, it would be easier to 
detect some nicer aspects, such as play of DOF.


Like Graywolf said, it is good for a beginning. But you're already ahead 
of me ;-).


Boris

Re: March PUG is open - my thoughts


Hi!

"Anti Pattern" - Boris Liberman - I especially like the dichotomy of the 
green cactus & the orange citrus


Thanks, Ken. It is was rather desperate submission, since I did not find 
any particularly patterned photographs of mine ;-).


The citrus is probably orange...

Boris

Re: DS remote control/flash questions

2006-03-05 Thread derbyc

Quoting Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi again.
> (Sorry about all the boring questions.)
> Will the DS accept a good-old-fashion mechanical remote? (A hopeful but, 
> I fear, fruitless question.)
> Will the infrared remote control F work from beside or behind the 
> camera? Maybe with a little mirror? :) (Another hopeful question)
> Why is the cable switch so darn _expensive_? :(
> Are there any cheaper (third party??) remote releases available?
> 
> And concerning flashes:
> My Sunpac auto 144 thrystor has a charge of around 2.3 volts between the 
> two terminals. Would this fry a DS?
> Has any one on the list used an *Ist with one of those cheap Phoenix 
> wireless jobs? How do they perform?
> 
> Once again, all ramblings appreciated.
> Sincerely,
> Francis
> 

Hi Francis,

No mechanical remote connection on the DS, unless you get one of the velcro
strappy things to go over the shutter release. 

The IR remote isn't reliable from behind the camera. The signal can bounce
around the room, but it depends on what's in the room. 

I got a reasonably cheap Chinese version of the DS electronic remote on ebay.
Nicely made.
http://tinyurl.com/pujwu

Derby

Re: DS remote control/flash questions

2006-03-05 Thread Adam Maas


Francis wrote:


Hi again.
(Sorry about all the boring questions.)
Will the DS accept a good-old-fashion mechanical remote? (A hopeful 
but, I fear, fruitless question.)
Will the infrared remote control F work from beside or behind the 
camera? Maybe with a little mirror? :) (Another hopeful question)

Why is the cable switch so darn _expensive_? :(
Are there any cheaper (third party??) remote releases available?

And concerning flashes:
My Sunpac auto 144 thrystor has a charge of around 2.3 volts between 
the two terminals. Would this fry a DS?
Has any one on the list used an *Ist with one of those cheap Phoenix 
wireless jobs? How do they perform?


Once again, all ramblings appreciated.
Sincerely,
Francis




It won't take a mechanical release, but it will take the much cheaper 
Canon 60N3 release which also fits the Rebel XT.


2.3 volts won't faze the DS, which is rated for 250v.

-Adam

DS remote control/flash questions

2006-03-05 Thread Francis


Hi again.
(Sorry about all the boring questions.)
Will the DS accept a good-old-fashion mechanical remote? (A hopeful but, 
I fear, fruitless question.)
Will the infrared remote control F work from beside or behind the 
camera? Maybe with a little mirror? :) (Another hopeful question)

Why is the cable switch so darn _expensive_? :(
Are there any cheaper (third party??) remote releases available?

And concerning flashes:
My Sunpac auto 144 thrystor has a charge of around 2.3 volts between the 
two terminals. Would this fry a DS?
Has any one on the list used an *Ist with one of those cheap Phoenix 
wireless jobs? How do they perform?


Once again, all ramblings appreciated.
Sincerely,
Francis

Re: Do you chimp?

2006-03-05 Thread Christian


mike wilson wrote:



Almost everyone has, so far, missed the point.  The actor was issued with a 
_film_ camera but thought that he needed to chimp to look like a real press 
photographer


My daughter (3) holds her toy cameras at arms distance and pretends to 
look at the non-existent LCD screen to compose her pictures just like 
she really dos with the Optio she uses...  Sign of the times.



--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net

Re: PESO: Lived to tell about it

2006-03-05 Thread Igor Roshchin


Subject: Re: PESO: Lived to tell about it
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:30:11 -0500
"frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 3/4/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks Frank. I've been wondering what he does for a living. He seems
> > to like being photographed. And he sometimes wears expensive clothes.
> > Interesting fellow.
> 
> Interesting indeed, Paul
> 
> I've always thought that if someone goes out of their way to cover
> themselves in tatoos like that, they probably don't mind being looked
> at, stared at, or photographed.  Presumably, the "art" was applied to
> be looked at.
> 
> I was surprised last year when I asked a couple, both of whom were
> covered in tatoos, if I could take a snap of them, and they politely
> declined.  Of course, I acceded to their wishes, but I sort of thought
> that if they're going to turn their skin into canvases, why wouldn't
> they want to "share" their art?  OTOH, photographs in art galleries
> are usually frowned upon...

You can see a similar phenomenon throughout the history of female fashion.
Women's clothing have always been pushing the acceptable limits
of skin exposure. However, try to stare openly, and you are risking getting 
a slap in the face or a harassment law suit (in today's America).
Go figure!  :-)

Igor

Re: out of lurk for a minute to share this siting on craigslist

2006-03-05 Thread Mark Roberts

mike wilson wrote:
 
>> "hey there everybody, i'm an amateur photographer that needs
>> something interesting to take
>> pictures of. So if you have a band or a house or anything
>> that you want photographed for free,
>> or just have any ideas of interesting photographs, please
>> contact me! all photos will be in black
>> and white."
>> 
>> pretty sad, huh.
>
>Life is slow in Rockwellland at the moment?

LOL. (And I mean *literally* LOL!)

Re: bright spot on rear lens element?

2006-03-05 Thread Bob Sullivan

Does the guy know how to clean a lens.
Are his lenses clean, or are his bright spots residual oil?
I wish we knew if he used residual oil remover (ROR).
A film of oil (grease) about one molecule thick will change reflections.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 3/5/06, Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hello!
>
> While watching a few e-Bay auctions for SMC-P lenses, I noticed
> that all lenses from this seller have
> "a bright spot on the rear lense element":
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-zoom-28-70mm-f-4-0-SMCP-FA-Autofocus-Lens-Extra_W0QQitemZ7594561955QQcategoryZ48558QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-Telephoto-SMCP-FA-100mm-f-2-8-Macro-AF-lens-NR_W0QQitemZ7594559450QQcategoryZ48558QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-Normal-SMCP-FA-50mm-f-1-4-Autofocus-Lens-NR_W0QQitemZ7594556499QQcategoryZ48558QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-Wide-Angle-FA-24mm-f-2-0-AL-IF-AF-EX-rare-NR_W0QQitemZ7594551547QQcategoryZ48558QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-Telephoto-SMCP-FA-300mm-f-4-5-ED-IF-AF-lens-NR_W0QQitemZ7594569810QQcategoryZ48558QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> http://tinyurl.com/q29el
> http://tinyurl.com/rdyp6
> http://tinyurl.com/lmp5v
> http://tinyurl.com/rtxb5
> http://tinyurl.com/s5j9b
>
> So, I am curious, what could be possible causes of this?
>
> The guy mentioned notorious cleaning of the lenses, so my
> guess was that it could've been caused by using some wrong solvents
> for cleaning, so that the SMC is removed, but I am not sure if
> there is any coating on the rear element.
> Moreover, if I had to guess, I'd say there is none.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Igor
>
>
>

Re: GESO--brickwork

Bruce,

You may not have to go that far (although old-town Auburn is a fun place
to visit).  All you need to do is find a location (maybe the old part of
Roseville or Rocklin) that has hundred-year-old brick building.  There are
a number of them in, for example, midtown Sacramento.  A lot of these
buildings have interesting doors, windows, or other ornamentation.  Of 
course the gold rush towns (Nevada City, Auburn, Placerville, Sutter Creek,
Angels Camp, etc., etc., etc.) are perfect for finding this kind of 
subject.  I've been focusing (literally) almost exclusively on my 6 month
old daughter as my photo subject of late.

Regarding the B&W treatment, the digital lith process started out as a 
B&W process for me.  I almost accidentally discovered that leaving the
colors in the highlight layer can yield the washed hand-colored look that
I like.  It's a pretty cool process, actually, and it's pretty flexible,
to.  If you're interested, we could get together sometime and I can show 
you the layer construction on a bunch of the images that I've done.

The other examples that I've shared with the PDML are at

http://www.westerickson.net/gmb2005

Once again, the web really doesn't do justice to the prints.

--Mark

Bruce Dayton wrote:
>You're right.  I didn't look at the others.  Having gone back now, I
>like the second and third images better.  It is a cool subject.  I
>played around with one of them a bit, and almost feel that a B&W
>treatment might further enhance it.
>
>Yes, I am about 15 miles away from there.  I may go up - take my
>daughter Erin - and see if I can find it.  Nice work.
>
>-- 
>Best regards,
>Bruce

Re: GESO--brickwork

Ken,

The images are pretty heavily processed (see the link to the digital lith
description elsewhere in the thread).  I intended for the coloring to evoke
a washed hand-colored look, so the "desaturated" feel is on purpose.
Regarding contrast, the digital lith workflow yields very high "local"
contrast in the full sized images that isn't fully apparent in the
resized-for-web versions.  To do it right, I would probably have to try to
apply the process to an image after it has been resized.  H.  Something
to think about.

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that local, micro-scale contrast is
really important for certain kinds of images.  Unfortunately, 100dpi
monitors and resized images lose this effect Guess you'll have to trust
me on this one :-)

--Mark

Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
>Interesting study Mark.
>
>>Can it stand as a
>>photographic subject on its own?
>
>I'd say yes.
>
>I'd prefer a little more contrast & saturation.
>
>Was the white point/dark point set in post processing?
>
>Kenneth Waller

Re: Constructive-Destructive critisisim wanted for these photos

2006-03-05 Thread Dave Brooks

Thanks Paul.

Actually, this was a free be. I donated my time(4 hour show, many hours 
tweaking) to this event, to assist in the fund raiser for the radio 
station.(who liked me enough to offer me a spot to do a Canadian Blues Show 
every Mondy,when we get off the ground). All acts recieved,courtesy of moi, a 
Cd of stills. Preadjusted and my interpretations.They also received a free 
recording courtesy of the sound guy.

Looks like i need do do a lot more study and PS investigation, or go back to 
model trains.

Looks like my bad week carry's on.:-)

Dave

Paul Said:

Hi Dave, 
I agree in regard to the spotlight effect. I'd lose it. Then I'd boost 
the saturation quite a bit and increase contrast. I'd also provide 
larger images on this page if you want the participants to be motivated 
to buy. 
Paul 
On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: 

> On Mar 5, 2006, at 8:20, Dave Brooks wrote: 
>> 
>> Hi Troops 
>> 
>> I recently completed my radio station picture adjustments. About 225 
>> or so. 
>> Its the first time doing all Raw and converting.
David J Brooks
Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region
www.caughtinmotion.com
Pentax istD, PZ-1, Nikon D1 D2H

Re: PESO - Land, under the Sun

2006-03-05 Thread William Robb



- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Land, under the Sun









Being relatively new to the list, wasn't that stretching the PUG entry
rules a bit? :-)




I may have been trying to make a point about something or other...

William Robb

Re: Thanks

You're doing good work. I looked at your horse pics as well and found 
many excellent shots.

Paul
On Mar 5, 2006, at 7:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Well i asked for it.

Thanks for the comments on the fund raiser photos and my "adjustments".

Seems i'll have a lot of camera equipment for sale soon.

Dave

Re: Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv

2006-03-05 Thread David Savage

Ditto.

Dave

On 3/6/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like "Euphoria." Interesting juxtaposition of the sign and building.
> Paul
> On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > It seems I am in a shooting streak again... Went today for a walk in
> > the area close to our offices...
> >
> > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291
> > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292
> >
> > As usual brutal and honest comments are sought after.
> >
> > Boris
> >
>
>

Thanks

2006-03-05 Thread brooksdj


Well i asked for it.

Thanks for the comments on the fund raiser photos and my "adjustments".

Seems i'll have a lot of camera equipment for sale soon.

Dave

Re: GESO--brickwork

2006-03-05 Thread David Savage

I reckon it can looking at these examples.

They are all good, but I particularly like the last two, with the
fourth being my favorite.

BTW, they also look good in B&W.

Dave

On 3/6/06, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All,
>
> The brick wall is classic fodder for lens test pictures.  Can it stand as a
> photographic subject on its own?
>
> http://www.westerickson.net/brickwork/
>
> --Mark
>
> These are my first real 31Ltd images.  All were taken handheld with a
> *ist-Ds and postprocessed using a "digital lith" workflow.  Comments and
> suggestions welcome as always.
>
>

Re: PESO - Land, under the Sun

2006-03-05 Thread David Savage

On 3/6/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> Wrom: RHDMNNSKVFVWRKJV
> Subject: PESO - Land, under the Sun
>
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12254
> >
> > So far I've been severely criticized for lack of sharpness on the
> > foreground... I wonder what you have to say re this and re the image in
> > general.
> >
> > Be brutal and honest.
>
> I saw yours and thought of mine.
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/00july/JulyOO/barrel.html
>
> William Robb
>

Being relatively new to the list, wasn't that stretching the PUG entry
rules a bit? :-)

Just kidding.

Dave

Re: Robin, Michigan Style


Thanks Ken. Good point.
Paul
On Mar 5, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

A very good capture Paul. Sure is crisp. My only nit is that I would 
like a less distracting background. Doesn't appear that you could get 
there thru a wider aperture. A lower perspective might have been the 
only way.


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style


Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed 
up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most 
of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super 
flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier 
attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg

Re: PESO - Taylor, A New Cat in the Household

2006-03-05 Thread Joseph Tainter


Cat with keyboard and film scanner.

Joe

Re: GESO--brickwork


Interesting study Mark.

Can it stand as a
photographic subject on its own?


I'd say yes.

I'd prefer a little more contrast & saturation.

Was the white point/dark point set in post processing?

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: GESO--brickwork



All,

The brick wall is classic fodder for lens test pictures.  Can it stand as 
a

photographic subject on its own?

http://www.westerickson.net/brickwork/

--Mark

These are my first real 31Ltd images.  All were taken handheld with a
*ist-Ds and postprocessed using a "digital lith" workflow.  Comments and
suggestions welcome as always.

Re: Robin, Michigan Style

A very good capture Paul. Sure is crisp. My only nit is that I would like a 
less distracting background. Doesn't appear that you could get there thru a 
wider aperture. A lower perspective might have been the only way.


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style


Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed up 
this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most of the 
US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super flash on 
high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier attached. ISO 800, 
f5.6 @ 1/750th.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg

Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style

Although I've sold a few as stock, I don't shoot birds seriously. But I 
find it a relaxing diversion. I sometimes walk three miles through the 
woods without getting off a single shot, cut it's still a good time. 
Today I got four or five keepers in just a mile or so. That's rare in 
my experience for anywhere other than a migratory fly zone like Point 
Pele in Ontario. Speaking of Point Pele I went there last May. Looking 
forward to making the trip again this year. Some list members are 
regulars there.

On Mar 5, 2006, at 5:30 PM, Bob Shell wrote:



On Mar 5, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Yep. When you've spent some time shooting birds, you come to realize 
that they're watching you when they're in profile. That's why you 
have to wait for a shot with the camera in place. If you raise the 
camera while the bird is in this position, he'll fly away.



I haven't done much bird photography in recent years.  Mostly these 
days when I go for hikes I just take binoculars and come back with 
memories.  But I used to do a lot of bird photography in earlier 
times, and may make a return to it when I can take life at a slower 
pace.


Bob

Re: PAW - Rest Stop Memorial

2006-03-05 Thread frank theriault

On 3/5/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Frank ...
>
> The pic doesn't do much for me either, although I believe it would be
> stronger if the framing were a little tighter (as said, I believe, by David
> Savage - eliminating the fourth soda machine) and if the photo wasn't
> tilted so much.  There doesn't seem to be a horizontal or a vertical line
> in it.
>
> My only thought is that you intentionally wanted the image tilted and
> skewed, but for what reason I cannot understand.  But then, I don't
> understand the relationship between the pop machines and the memorial
> either.  I guess I'm just slow and a bit foggy ... happens more and more
> these days.
>
> Shel

Shel,

I don't see that the photo is tilted, but maybe I'm slow and foggy,
too .  I agree that there are no horizontal or vertical lines, but
to my mind (both at the time of shooting, and now), the result of all
those lines is "not tilted".  Whatever the situation, I don't see the
orientation (whether tilted or not) as anything I tried to do
intentionally;  rather I felt (and still do) that I shot the scene as
presented to me.

As far as the Pepsi machines, two thoughts come to mind.  First of
all, placing the row of vending machines in the sight-line of the
memorial was rather unfortunate, and in my mind trivializes the
monument.  In fact, I think its sanctity and "sacredness" (for lack of
a better term) is severely compromized.

Secondly, to me, it spoke to the corperatization of war.  I couldn't
help but wonder if that's what war's about these days:  corporate
interests.  There's a movie playing in one or two theatres here in
Toronto called "What We Fought For", and I was thinking of making that
the (ironic) title of this photo.

I guess that I'm reading way to much into it, but that's what I
thought.  In any event, I think that the poor positioning of the
monument is an insult to the soldiers that it was intended to honour.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Dawn's Early Light

2006-03-05 Thread John Forbes

On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:47:28 -, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Beautiful!  Tom, in what lovely location do you live?


We all know that Tom lives in Cloud Cuckoo Land. :-) Very beautiful place,  
no noise except the birds, and Tom makes the most of the photo  
opportunities.


John



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Re: PESO - Angry Sea

Thanks Tim.  It was very impressive to stand there in the wind and
sparse rain droplets and just take it in.

-- 
Bruce

Sunday, March 5, 2006, 1:55:18 PM, you wrote:

TØ> Beautiful. Think you captured this in the precise right moment and framed it
TØ> perfectly. 
TØ> The B&W conversion makes it slightly abstract. I believe I prefer the "being
TØ> there" feeling of the original.

TØ> Tim
TØ> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)

TØ> Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
TØ> (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 21. februar 2006 04:37
>> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>> Subject: PESO - Angry Sea
>> 
>> Over this weekend I took the family down to Monterey, CA to see the
>> beach and aquarium.  The big issue was the forecast.  There was
>> supposed to be rain the whole time we would be there.  As we arrived
>> the rain was just ending for the moment.  This was taken at Marina
>> beach just north of Monterey.
>> 
>> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
>> ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/8.0
>> 
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2788.htm
>> 
>> Comments welcome
>> 
>> --
>> Bruce
>>

Re: GESO--brickwork

You're right.  I didn't look at the others.  Having gone back now, I
like the second and third images better.  It is a cool subject.  I
played around with one of them a bit, and almost feel that a B&W
treatment might further enhance it.

Yes, I am about 15 miles away from there.  I may go up - take my
daughter Erin - and see if I can find it.  Nice work.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce

Sunday, March 5, 2006, 1:46:33 PM, you wrote:

ME> Bruce,

ME> You're describing your response to the first image, right?  Turns out the
ME> image I put up is one of three compositions I took--one where the door
ME> dominates, the one shown, and one with much more brick and less door.
ME> What did you think of the other images?  My personal favorite is the stairs
ME> and gas meters

ME> --Mark

ME> p.s., the building in question is just below the courthouse in Auburn--
ME> maybe 15 miles from where you live?

ME> Bruce Dayton wrote
>>I think it has potential - as is, I would like to see even more brick
>>making the door becoming an anchor to the brick subject or the door
>>becoming the subject.  Right now it seems that the door and brick have
>>about equal emphasis.  This is a subject I would really explore if you
>>have the opportunity.
>>
>>-- 
>>Best regards,
>>Bruce

Re: PESO Robin



On Mar 5, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Rick Womer wrote:


Nice photo, and nice bokeh from that lens, but I don't
think it's a robin.


I don't think you're Rick, so there!!

Bob

Re: PESO - Dawn's Early Light

2006-03-05 Thread Rick Womer

Beautiful!  Tom, in what lovely location do you live?

Rick

--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Taken this morning outside the front door. I should
> mention that I was the 
> only one up yet. I saw the light from the upstairs
> bathroom window upon 
> stepping out of the shower.  I ran 'au naturel' out
> to the car, got the 
> camera, changed lenses and took several shots. I
> thought that would add a 
> little to the image. ;-)
> 
>
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4181984&size=lg
> 
> 
> 
> The other version which was the one I failed to
> convert the profile on is 
> here:
> 
>
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4181617&size=lg
> 
> I hope not to hear Jack Davis say he prefers the
> second one better.
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >Subject: Re: Web vs. Photoshop Colors
> >Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:48:28 -0700
> >
> >Thanks everyone.  I got it fixed thanks to your
> kind assistance.
> >
> >1) I still don't have a clear understanding of it
> though.  I had gone to 
> >the  dialog on the Edit menu.  It
> pops up and in the 
> >Working Space RGB field it says sRGB IEC61966-2.1. 
> Seeing that, I thought 
> >the image *already was* in sRGB, and I was using
> Save for Web as usual.
> >
> >2) However, when I went to  on
> the Edit menu, the 
> >Source Space was Adobe RGB.  Setting the
> destination space to sRGB 
> >(converting to) and then using Save to Web
> corrected the problem.
> >
> >So now I ask (and I'm sure this has been mentioned
> here before or I could 
> >look it up), what is it really telling me under
>  when it 
> >says the working space is sRGB?
> >
> >I'm also amazed at how little difference it has
> made in other images, not 
> >doing the Convert to Profile step.
> >
> >Tom C.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >>Subject: Re: Web vs. Photoshop Colors
> >>Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:06:50 -0500
> >>
> >>As Ryan said, make sure the color space is sRGB.
> Then, if you're using 
> >>PhotoShop do a Save for Web. It should come up on
> the Save for Web page 
> >>looking the same as your sRGB but all exif data
> and color space info will 
> >>be stripped. That should avoid any confusion when
> you put it up on the 
> >>web.
> >>Paul
> >>On Mar 3, 2006, at 5:57 PM, Ryan Brooks wrote:
> >>
> >>>Tom C wrote:
> >>>
> I've been this route before... aargh.
> 
> >>>
> >>>Convert to profile sRGB, that'll expand or reduce
> your working gamut into 
> >>>the web gamut and it should be exactly the same
> in appearance.  Don't 
> >>>bother embedding a profile in the web image, it
> is assumed sRGB and may 
> >>>be ignored.
> >>>
> >>>-Ryan
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 


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RE: PESO - Pura Reserve (4)

2006-03-05 Thread Tim Øsleby

I totally disagree with Ken here. This intersection is what makes the photo.
It makes it different. 
That said, the general composition reminds me of DagT balloon vs. needle
shot. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -Original Message-
> From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22. februar 2006 02:00
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: PESO - Pura Reserve (4)
> 
> Boris, I think you've got some good elements here but the intersection of
> the bottom of the rose with the horizon is distracting. A slightly lower
> perspective would elevate the rose and eliminate this unfortunate
> coincidence.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO - Pura Reserve (4)
> 
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12082
> >
> > I boosted saturation and contrast somewhat. Perhaps this time you could
> > tell me if this Sigma lens is any good. At least now you can see the
> > bokeh.
> >
> > Spring is at full power in Israel... Jostein can attest to that.
> >
> > Boris
> >
>

Re: PESO Robin

2006-03-05 Thread Rick Womer

Nice photo, and nice bokeh from that lens, but I don't
think it's a robin.

Rick

--- Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This week I enabled myself with a cheap Sigma A
> 5,6-400 mm and mounted
> the lens together with a Takumar-A 2x TC on my istD.
> 
> http://360.leende.net/sigma400
> 
> Hope you like it.
> Not the greatest pictures and the lens could be
> better, but I enjoyed
> the wildlife.
> The Sigma works like any Pentax-A lens on the istD,
> combined with the
> Takumar-A 2x it only works in manual green button
> mode.
> 
> Toine
> 
> 


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Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style



On Mar 5, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Yep. When you've spent some time shooting birds, you come to  
realize that they're watching you when they're in profile. That's  
why you have to wait for a shot with the camera in place. If you  
raise the camera while the bird is in this position, he'll fly away.



I haven't done much bird photography in recent years.  Mostly these  
days when I go for hikes I just take binoculars and come back with  
memories.  But I used to do a lot of bird photography in earlier  
times, and may make a return to it when I can take life at a slower  
pace.


Bob

RE: PESO - My Lonely Ass (On the Way to Work)

2006-03-05 Thread Tim Øsleby

I'm briefly skimming peso to get on top on of about 1500 unread mails. This
one really caught my eye. Pleasant, dreamy and so on. I specially like that
the mule of the animal is nearly in contact with the ground. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21. februar 2006 19:26
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO - My Lonely Ass (On the Way to Work)
> 
> I've liked Rick Womer's "On the Way to Work" theme as it provides a little
> glimpse into his daily life.  His way to work is far different from mine,
> walking past suburban areas, cemeteries and the like, full of human
> history.
> 
> This is one of the things I see on the 20 mile drive to work.
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4147790
> 
> Tom C.
> 
>

Re: PESO: Still winter

I've found this to be the case as well. Some shots just don't pop on a 
small computer screen. I've come across scenes like this that are 
intriguing full scale but don't translate very well to a small photo. 
Still, Jens has made the most of this with a nice composition. I also 
find it interesting in that it describes a place that I would otherwise 
never see.

Paul
On Mar 5, 2006, at 5:07 PM, George Sinos wrote:


I'll expand a little on my earlier comment.

I think this is one of those photos that must be large to be
appreciated.  Its one of those photos that you put over your mantle or
on the wall in your office or den.  The kind you sit back and look at,
and every time you see it a different part of the photo or a different
detail catches your eye.

GS

On 3/5/06, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Jens,

A very pleasant picture to observe.  I like the diagonal running
through the frame and the reflections.  I find myself wanting a bit
more dramatic lighting.  The composition is quite nice, but there is
still something about the shot that stops it from being amazing.
Perhaps it is lighting or perhaps lack of strong subject that grabs my
attention or maybe both.

--
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, March 5, 2006, 8:52:17 AM, you wrote:

JB> This is a shot I took today - a small creek somewhere in Denmark 
- perhaps

JB> 40 km from Copenhagen.
JB> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/108172005/
JB> Comments are welcome, naturally.
JB> Regards
JB> Jens Bladt
JB> http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Re: GESO

2006-03-05 Thread Rick Womer

Dan,

Very nice gallery.  You've transmitted the "feel" of
the place very nicely.

Rick

--- "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I enjoy unusual signs.  Here are a few I found last
> week in Key West.
> Dan M
> www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=577829
> 
> 

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Re: PESO - Angry Sea

2006-03-05 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher

Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Comments welcome

Nicely captured. There really is nothing more majestic than the sea. 

Just wondering if the whole frame isn't leaning a tad towards the right.

Ralf

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Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style

Yep. When you've spent some time shooting birds, you come to realize 
that they're watching you when they're in profile. That's why you have 
to wait for a shot with the camera in place. If you raise the camera 
while the bird is in this position, he'll fly away.

Paul
On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:48 PM, Bob Shell wrote:


On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


A technically well done shot.  The only downside for me is the bird is
just sitting there - almost like it was stuffed.  Somehow I'd like it
be actively doing something.  As it is, it would be a great shot for
learning what this particular bird looks like.  Food for thought.



It is doing something.  It is staring intently at the photographer in 
an "alert" pose.  Birds like this "robin" with eyes on the side of 
their head are looking at you when the side of their head is toward 
you.  They arrived here last week, and the males like this fellow are 
busy picking out their territories and squabbling with other males 
over the prime real estate so they'll be all set when the females 
arrive.  Sort of reminds me of the people around here!


Bob

Re: PESO: Still winter

2006-03-05 Thread George Sinos

I'll expand a little on my earlier comment.

I think this is one of those photos that must be large to be
appreciated.  Its one of those photos that you put over your mantle or
on the wall in your office or den.  The kind you sit back and look at,
and every time you see it a different part of the photo or a different
detail catches your eye.

GS

On 3/5/06, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Jens,
>
> A very pleasant picture to observe.  I like the diagonal running
> through the frame and the reflections.  I find myself wanting a bit
> more dramatic lighting.  The composition is quite nice, but there is
> still something about the shot that stops it from being amazing.
> Perhaps it is lighting or perhaps lack of strong subject that grabs my
> attention or maybe both.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Sunday, March 5, 2006, 8:52:17 AM, you wrote:
>
> JB> This is a shot I took today - a small creek somewhere in Denmark - perhaps
> JB> 40 km from Copenhagen.
> JB> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/108172005/
> JB> Comments are welcome, naturally.
> JB> Regards
> JB> Jens Bladt
> JB> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
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>

Re: GESO--brickwork

2006-03-05 Thread Toine

Mark,
Thanks for the workflow information. I must/will try this one of these
days. The first door/photo would be my favorite.
Toine

On 3/5/06, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Toine,
>
> Thanks for the comments.  My workflow is based on the one described here:
>
> http://www.pauck.de/marco/photo/lith/digital_lith/digital_lith.html
>
> When I start with a color image, I convert it to black and white via the
> channel mixer to create the "shadows" layer.  On the "shadows" side, I
> usually use a much smaller unsharp mask radius than Pauck describes, but it
> is really dependent on the grain/noise properties of the original image.  I
> leave the highlights layer in color.  The interaction between the highlights
> layer underneath and the shadow layer on top creates the desaturated, "hand
> colored" effect.
>
> By the way, I just printed the stairs image out on my Epson R800 and it's
> much better than the web version
>
> --Mark
>
> Toine wrote:
> >Yes it can, I like it very much. The colors are fascinating and now
> >I'm wondering what a "digital lith" workflow exactly is.
> >Toine
> >
> >On 3/5/06, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> The brick wall is classic fodder for lens test pictures.  Can it stand as
> a
> >> photographic subject on its own?
> >>
> >> http://www.westerickson.net/brickwork/
> >>
> >> --Mark
> >>
> >> These are my first real 31Ltd images.  All were taken handheld with a
> >> *ist-Ds and postprocessed using a "digital lith" workflow.  Comments and
> >> suggestions welcome as always.
> >>
>
>

RE: PESO - Angry Sea

2006-03-05 Thread Tim Øsleby

Beautiful. Think you captured this in the precise right moment and framed it
perfectly. 
The B&W conversion makes it slightly abstract. I believe I prefer the "being
there" feeling of the original.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21. februar 2006 04:37
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO - Angry Sea
> 
> Over this weekend I took the family down to Monterey, CA to see the
> beach and aquarium.  The big issue was the forecast.  There was
> supposed to be rain the whole time we would be there.  As we arrived
> the rain was just ending for the moment.  This was taken at Marina
> beach just north of Monterey.
> 
> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/8.0
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2788.htm
> 
> Comments welcome
> 
> --
> Bruce
>

Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style



On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


A technically well done shot.  The only downside for me is the bird is
just sitting there - almost like it was stuffed.  Somehow I'd like it
be actively doing something.  As it is, it would be a great shot for
learning what this particular bird looks like.  Food for thought.



It is doing something.  It is staring intently at the photographer in  
an "alert" pose.  Birds like this "robin" with eyes on the side of  
their head are looking at you when the side of their head is toward  
you.  They arrived here last week, and the males like this fellow are  
busy picking out their territories and squabbling with other males  
over the prime real estate so they'll be all set when the females  
arrive.  Sort of reminds me of the people around here!


Bob

Re: GESO--brickwork

Bruce,

You're describing your response to the first image, right?  Turns out the
image I put up is one of three compositions I took--one where the door
dominates, the one shown, and one with much more brick and less door.
What did you think of the other images?  My personal favorite is the stairs
and gas meters

--Mark

p.s., the building in question is just below the courthouse in Auburn--
maybe 15 miles from where you live?

Bruce Dayton wrote
>I think it has potential - as is, I would like to see even more brick
>making the door becoming an anchor to the brick subject or the door
>becoming the subject.  Right now it seems that the door and brick have
>about equal emphasis.  This is a subject I would really explore if you
>have the opportunity.
>
>-- 
>Best regards,
>Bruce

Re: Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv


I like "Euphoria." Interesting juxtaposition of the sign and building.
Paul
On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

It seems I am in a shooting streak again... Went today for a walk in 
the area close to our offices...


http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291
http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292

As usual brutal and honest comments are sought after.

Boris

Re: GESO--brickwork

Toine,

Thanks for the comments.  My workflow is based on the one described here:

http://www.pauck.de/marco/photo/lith/digital_lith/digital_lith.html

When I start with a color image, I convert it to black and white via the
channel mixer to create the "shadows" layer.  On the "shadows" side, I
usually use a much smaller unsharp mask radius than Pauck describes, but it
is really dependent on the grain/noise properties of the original image.  I
leave the highlights layer in color.  The interaction between the highlights
layer underneath and the shadow layer on top creates the desaturated, "hand
colored" effect.

By the way, I just printed the stairs image out on my Epson R800 and it's
much better than the web version

--Mark

Toine wrote:
>Yes it can, I like it very much. The colors are fascinating and now
>I'm wondering what a "digital lith" workflow exactly is.
>Toine
>
>On 3/5/06, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> The brick wall is classic fodder for lens test pictures.  Can it stand as
a
>> photographic subject on its own?
>>
>> http://www.westerickson.net/brickwork/
>>
>> --Mark
>>
>> These are my first real 31Ltd images.  All were taken handheld with a
>> *ist-Ds and postprocessed using a "digital lith" workflow.  Comments and
>> suggestions welcome as always.
>>

Re: March PUG is open - my thoughts

Thanks for commenting on the Pug, Ken. I have to agree about Ann's pic 
from Scottsdale. Excellent shot.

Paul
On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

Since I've got some time on my hands, (recently retired yet called 
back to consult) I thought I'd give my thoughts on a few of the images 
in the March Pug that caught my eye.



"Ripples" - Henk Terhell - good eye & execution

"Field" - Jens Bladt - My kind of image - good eye & execution

"Dew" - Dag Thrane - good subject & idea. Needs a more imaginative 
composition


"Metal Landscape" - Gianfranco Irlando - imaginative & original

"Church Window" - Rick Wormer - simple, good eye & execution

"Gords" -  Bob Sullivan - nicely captured & executed

"Green Light" - Francis - would like to see a more evenly dispersed 
light pattern.


"Lens Test" - Joseph Tainter - this image would really shine with 
softer light


"Anti Pattern" - Boris Liberman - I especially like the dichotomy of 
the green cactus & the orange citrus


"Sun on Canoes" - Dave Brooks - I would like this more if there were 
sun on the canoes.


"Marshall ST. Scottsdale, Az." - Ann Sanfedele -  My favorite this 
month - Nice subject, composition & light - well done


"Rainbow of Colors" - Harold Rust - wonderful colors, great composition

"Chevy Rainbow" - Paul Stenquist - Great eye & capture, I remember the 
day Paul, the only way to make this better would be to change the 
title and include Fords 


My $.02's on this months PUG

YMMV

Kenneth Waller

Re: PESO - Taylor, A New Cat in the Household


Shel Belinkoff wrote:




Taylor is showing is interest in draping himself over my shoulder and
taking a cat nap.

Got any pix of your cats?

Shel


Nothing electronic.  It's one of the things I have (not exactly) 
planned. 8-)  Anyway, you've got the live version of one - the other was 
exactly the same but with Persian fur.


They were born under the floorboards of a house under renovation.  The 
whole litter and mother were unknowingly boarded in and it was only 
after the smell got too bad that investigations revealed the two 
survivors.  They were only about six weeks old when I got them; took a 
lot of nursing and they were always petite.  I didn't expect them to 
last long..








[Original Message]
From: mike wilson 



Just out of interest:  my version of this model used to like climbing 
into the crook of your arm and lying upside down there to sleep.  He 
would often climb there when not sleepy but, if you tickled in the right 
spot at the top of his sternum, would immediately fall into a deep sleep 
from which it was difficult to awaken him.

Re: GESO--brickwork

I think it has potential - as is, I would like to see even more brick
making the door becoming an anchor to the brick subject or the door
becoming the subject.  Right now it seems that the door and brick have
about equal emphasis.  This is a subject I would really explore if you
have the opportunity.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, March 5, 2006, 1:05:17 PM, you wrote:

ME> All,

ME> The brick wall is classic fodder for lens test pictures.  Can it stand as a
ME> photographic subject on its own?  

ME> http://www.westerickson.net/brickwork/

ME> --Mark 

ME> These are my first real 31Ltd images.  All were taken handheld with a
ME> *ist-Ds and postprocessed using a "digital lith" workflow.  Comments and
ME> suggestions welcome as always.

Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style

Hello Paul,

A technically well done shot.  The only downside for me is the bird is
just sitting there - almost like it was stuffed.  Somehow I'd like it
be actively doing something.  As it is, it would be a great shot for
learning what this particular bird looks like.  Food for thought.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, March 5, 2006, 12:42:04 PM, you wrote:

PS> Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed
PS> up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most
PS> of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super
PS> flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier 
PS> attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th.
PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg

Re: Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv

The first is pretty good - light amusement.  The second, I think, is
much better.  The billboard and message are in such stark contrast to
the location.  Nicely done.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, March 5, 2006, 10:55:11 AM, you wrote:

BL> Hi!

BL> It seems I am in a shooting streak again... Went today for a walk in the
BL> area close to our offices...

BL> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291
BL> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292

BL> As usual brutal and honest comments are sought after.

BL> Boris

Re: GESO--brickwork

2006-03-05 Thread Toine

Yes it can, I like it very much. The colors are fascinating and now
I'm wondering what a "digital lith" workflow exactly is.
Toine

On 3/5/06, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All,
>
> The brick wall is classic fodder for lens test pictures.  Can it stand as a
> photographic subject on its own?
>
> http://www.westerickson.net/brickwork/
>
> --Mark
>
> These are my first real 31Ltd images.  All were taken handheld with a
> *ist-Ds and postprocessed using a "digital lith" workflow.  Comments and
> suggestions welcome as always.
>
>

Re: Constructive-Destructive critisisim wanted for these photos


Hi Dave,
I agree in regard to the spotlight effect. I'd lose it. Then I'd boost 
the saturation quite a bit and increase contrast. I'd also provide 
larger images on this page if you want the participants to be motivated 
to buy.

Paul
On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:


On Mar 5, 2006, at 8:20, Dave Brooks wrote:


Hi Troops

I recently completed my radio station picture adjustments. About 225 
or so.
Its the first time doing all Raw and converting. I used PSEL and its 
ACR for the conversions,then fine tuned the jpegs by adding lighting 
effects from the filter modes and some cropping.


The flash made everything the same. Fully lit stage.Kinda boring. I 
would have liked to shoot natural, but at 15th shutter f 2.8 i felt i 
would not get anything worthy.




Actually, with some patience, a monopod, and a steady hand you can get 
usable shots at that speed.  Some will be trashed because you moved, 
others will be junk because the *subject* has the audacity to not hold 
still for the camera.  But it can be done!


I'm asking for comments, as this may lead to more work, and i want to 
see what the collective has to say.

Looking for positive and negative should they deserve either.

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/

Scroll down about 1/2 way to the Whistle Radio link.



I was completely puzzled by the spotlight effect.  I thought: "If 
they're under the spotlight, then why was flash necessary?".  After a 
while it occurred to me that the spot effect is something that was 
probably added after the fact.   I find it completely distracting.  I 
realize it was probably done to make the pictures less flat (that 
pesky flash "sameness"), but personally I don't care for the effect.


Other than that, the only quibble is the extreme compression used on 
the photos.  Hard to see any details there.


I'd work on goosing the ISO up to 800/1600, steadying the camera with 
something like a monopod, and using existing light.  But that's just 
me.  I intensely dislike flash for performance photography.


 -Charles

--
Charles Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org

Ping César (was Re: FS Friday: FA* 85mm F1.4)

César,

Did you get my email?

--Mark 

-Original Message-
>Mark,
>
>I hope you don't mind the personal intrusion.
>Is the lens still available?
>
>César
>Panama City, Florida

GESO--brickwork

All,

The brick wall is classic fodder for lens test pictures.  Can it stand as a
photographic subject on its own?  

http://www.westerickson.net/brickwork/

--Mark 

These are my first real 31Ltd images.  All were taken handheld with a
*ist-Ds and postprocessed using a "digital lith" workflow.  Comments and
suggestions welcome as always.

Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style

2006-03-05 Thread Toine

Nice picture!
Our European Robin's would abandon their territory immediately after
spotting this giant.
Toine

On 3/5/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed
> up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most
> of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super
> flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier
> attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th.
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg
>
>

Re: PESO: Still winter

Hello Jens,

A very pleasant picture to observe.  I like the diagonal running
through the frame and the reflections.  I find myself wanting a bit
more dramatic lighting.  The composition is quite nice, but there is
still something about the shot that stops it from being amazing.
Perhaps it is lighting or perhaps lack of strong subject that grabs my
attention or maybe both.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, March 5, 2006, 8:52:17 AM, you wrote:

JB> This is a shot I took today - a small creek somewhere in Denmark - perhaps
JB> 40 km from Copenhagen.
JB> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/108172005/
JB> Comments are welcome, naturally.
JB> Regards
JB> Jens Bladt
JB> http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Re: FS tak a 2x

2006-03-05 Thread graywolf

Go find a "good" doctor, most of these problems we take for granted as 
just being old age aren't. 90% of them are treatable. No reason most of 
us can not function effectively until 90 or so.


I am currently reading The Physchology of Aging by Janet K. Belsky and 
having my eyes opened quite a bit.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---


Lon Williamson wrote:

As we get old, we get senile.  I argue with myself about
brown vs white sugar on my oatmeal every morning.  Sometimes
the debate lasts til noon.

-Lon

Aaron Reynolds wrote:


AAARGH.  Why can I never remember to change the reply-to address?

PESO: Robin, Michigan Style

Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed 
up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most 
of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super 
flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier 
attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg

Re: Constructive-Destructive critisisim wanted for these photos

2006-03-05 Thread graywolf

Hi Dave,

Not much to say. As you know sellable photos are not necessarily the
most interesting ones. As you learn to streamline your work flow you
will have more time to take an occassional interesting shot that may
sell to the more discriminating of your customers.

A possible route to go would be to have a tripod mounted camera covering
the whole stage operated with a wireless remote control, and a handheld
camera with a fast longer lens to do individual (head) shots.

Anyway, it looks like a good start at developing skills in a new area of
photo expertise.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---

Dave Brooks wrote:

Hi Troops

I recently completed my radio station picture adjustments. About 225 or so.
Its the first time doing all Raw and converting. I used PSEL and its ACR for
the conversions,then fine tuned the jpegs by adding lighting effects from the
filter modes and some cropping.

The flash made everything the same. Fully lit stage.Kinda boring. I would have
liked to shoot natural, but at 15th shutter f 2.8 i felt i would not get
anything worthy.

I'm asking for comments, as this may lead to more work, and i want to see what the collective has to say.
Looking for positive and negative should they deserve either.

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/

Scroll down about 1/2 way to the Whistle Radio link.

I put what i felt are the 2 best from each band, for a total of 16 pictures.

Be as nice or brutal as you feel. After the week i just had, nothing can make
me feel bad as for comments.:-)

Dave

David J Brooks
Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region
www.caughtinmotion.com
Pentax istD, PZ-1, Nikon D1 D2H

Re: PESO Robin



On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:57 PM, mike wilson wrote:


David Mann wrote:


On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Bob Shell wrote:

migratory thrush (Turdus migratorius)

That has to be about the funniest Latin name I've ever seen.
- Dave the 10-year-old

You'll probably like this, also, then.

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/sillymolecules/sillymols.htm




Some of the most difficult creatures to identify with certainty are  
the microlepidoptera, very tiny moths.  There is one series of genera  
with the names Perplexa, Vexata, Exasperata and Damnifica.  All were  
named by entomologist J.F. Gates Clarke to express his mood at the  
time of attempting to classify them.


When I worked at the Smithsonian Institution many years ago we had a  
jokester who used to create weird bugs and slip them into the  
collection.  One notable example of his work was a large beetle  
carved from plastic that we found in one of the collection drawers  
one day.  It's label read Staphylinus styrofoamus.


Bob

Re: Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv

2006-03-05 Thread Joseph Tainter


http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291
http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292

As usual brutal and honest comments are sought after.

--

Well, they are brutal and honest photos. These are well done, 
Boris. I believe they accomplished what you wanted.


Joe

RE: PESO: Still winter

2006-03-05 Thread Jens Bladt

Thanaks a lot, George - I'll make sure you'll get the opportunity :-)
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: George Sinos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 5. marts 2006 20:26
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: PESO: Still winter


Jens -

This one would look good over my mantle.  With all that detail it
needs to be printed large.

gs


On 3/5/06, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a shot I took today - a small creek somewhere in Denmark - perhaps
> 40 km from Copenhagen.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/108172005/
> Comments are welcome, naturally.
> Regards
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
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Re: PESO - Taylor, A New Cat in the Household



Taylor is showing is interest in draping himself over my shoulder and
taking a cat nap.

Got any pix of your cats?

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: mike wilson 

> Just out of interest:  my version of this model used to like climbing 
> into the crook of your arm and lying upside down there to sleep.  He 
> would often climb there when not sleepy but, if you tickled in the right 
> spot at the top of his sternum, would immediately fall into a deep sleep 
> from which it was difficult to awaken him.

RE: Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv

I like the story in the second one.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Boris Liberman

> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291
> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292

Re: PESO - Taylor, A New Cat in the Household

Odd how many people think cats are aloof.  You just gotta know how to read
'em, and understand cat language.  A lot of what they do to communicate is
quite subtle.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Paul Stenquist 

> Looks like a keeper. Reminds me of a cat I obtained through similar 
> circumstances. Her name was Ebony. She defied cat stereotypes by being 
> very affectionate. Hope Taylor proves to be as good a companion.

> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/taylor/Album/

RE: PESO: Sunset Sail

2006-03-05 Thread Jens Bladt

It's beautiful. I'd straighten the horizon  line, though.
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Daniel J. Matyola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. marts 2006 18:17
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO: Sunset Sail


This is a snap that I grabbed last week in Key West, FL, at thenightly "sunset 
celebration" at Mallory Square.  I was just trying tocapture the feeling of the 
event.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4178034
Comments, suggestions, and especially constructive criticism are welcome.
Dan M

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Re: PESO - Taylor, A New Cat in the Household

It's really odd, but in the last few weeks my life has been full of black
cats.  I must have come across eight or nine others besides my two.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: mike wilson 

> That's not Taylor.  That's Samson, who, with his sister Delilah, gave me 
> much pleasure for 19years.  'Lilah (a fluffy version of Sam) lasted for 
> 21.  I'm always seeing reincarnations of them.
>
> It's a pity my wife is allergic to cats.  But, to equal things up a bit, 
> I'm allergic to dogs.

Re: PESO - Taylor, A New Cat in the Household

Hi,

The more familiar I become with Porta, the more I like it.  Being able to
customize the appearance easily - even if only by trial an error - makes
the program more valuable and enjoyable to use.  Some people have said that
it's difficult to find the Porta site.  If that's the case for you, here's
the URL: 

 http://www.stegmann.dk/mikkel/porta/

Neither Taylor, nor my other cat, is allowed to sleep on the scanner.  But
they do enjoy hanging out nearby.  Buddy likes sitting atop the computer
and looking out the window.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Toine 

> Thanks for the Porta tip. I missed the discussion about web galleries
> and right this moment I was googling for new gallery software. I will
> check Porta today.
> Nice cat. My cat is not allowed to sleep on the scanner :)

Re: PESO: Still winter

2006-03-05 Thread George Sinos

Jens -

This one would look good over my mantle.  With all that detail it
needs to be printed large.

gs


On 3/5/06, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a shot I took today - a small creek somewhere in Denmark - perhaps
> 40 km from Copenhagen.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/108172005/
> Comments are welcome, naturally.
> Regards
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
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>

Re: PESO - Taylor, A New Cat in the Household


Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Glad your daughter enjoyed the pics.  Thanks for the good wishes. Taylor is
quite a handful right now - and he's real friendly and affectionate.



Just out of interest:  my version of this model used to like climbing 
into the crook of your arm and lying upside down there to sleep.  He 
would often climb there when not sleepy but, if you tickled in the right 
spot at the top of his sternum, would immediately fall into a deep sleep 
from which it was difficult to awaken him.


m

Re: PESO - Taylor, A New Cat in the Household


E.R.N. Reed wrote:


mike wilson wrote:


Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Yesterday Taylor arrived at Casa Belinkoff.  He's a 7 month old black 
male
cat 




That's not Taylor.  That's Samson, who, with his sister Delilah, gave 
me much pleasure for 19years.  'Lilah (a fluffy version of Sam) lasted 
for 21.  I'm always seeing reincarnations of them.


It's a pity my wife is allergic to cats.  But, to equal things up a 
bit, I'm allergic to dogs.


m




Ay. The poor child.



Allergies will be the least of its problems.  Wait till it understands 
what it is seeing in a mirror... 8-

Re: PESO Robin


David Mann wrote:


On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Bob Shell wrote:


migratory thrush (Turdus migratorius)



That has to be about the funniest Latin name I've ever seen.

- Dave the 10-year-old




You'll probably like this, also, then.

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/sillymolecules/sillymols.htm

Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv


Hi!

It seems I am in a shooting streak again... Went today for a walk in the 
area close to our offices...


http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291
http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292

As usual brutal and honest comments are sought after.

Boris

Re: color profiles ICC for *ist DS/L

2006-03-05 Thread Cory Papenfuss

	That said, I found a profile stashed within the demo of BibblePro for 
linux.  I've used that profile for awhile.  I'm assuming you're referring 
to RAW... otherwise you don't need one.


I haven't found any particular need to hunt for a profile with the DS. Camera 
Raw's native settings for converting the DS RAW files seems close enough, and


	When I first started doing RAW with my -DS, dcraw didn't even have 
the DNG coefficents it now uses by default.  As a result, they were pretty 
flat and much different than the in-RAW JPG file.  CameraRaw probably has 
a good average profile to use for the Pentax cameras like the bibble one I 
eventually found.


Whatever floats your 'scope

-Cory

--

*
* Cory Papenfuss*
* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
*

March PUG is open - my thoughts

Since I've got some time on my hands, (recently retired yet called back to 
consult) I thought I'd give my thoughts on a few of the images in the March 
Pug that caught my eye.



"Ripples" - Henk Terhell - good eye & execution

"Field" - Jens Bladt - My kind of image - good eye & execution

"Dew" - Dag Thrane - good subject & idea. Needs a more imaginative 
composition


"Metal Landscape" - Gianfranco Irlando - imaginative & original

"Church Window" - Rick Wormer - simple, good eye & execution

"Gords" -  Bob Sullivan - nicely captured & executed

"Green Light" - Francis - would like to see a more evenly dispersed light 
pattern.


"Lens Test" - Joseph Tainter - this image would really shine with softer 
light


"Anti Pattern" - Boris Liberman - I especially like the dichotomy of the 
green cactus & the orange citrus


"Sun on Canoes" - Dave Brooks - I would like this more if there were sun on 
the canoes.


"Marshall ST. Scottsdale, Az." - Ann Sanfedele -  My favorite this month - 
Nice subject, composition & light - well done


"Rainbow of Colors" - Harold Rust - wonderful colors, great composition

"Chevy Rainbow" - Paul Stenquist - Great eye & capture, I remember the day 
Paul, the only way to make this better would be to change the title and 
include Fords 


My $.02's on this months PUG

YMMV

Kenneth Waller

Re: Do you chimp?

2006-03-05 Thread Gautam Sarup

> How about Gerard Depardieu in Tous les Matins du Monde

Cotty, I loved that movie so I never looked carefully at carefully
at what Depardieu or the other actors were doing.  Same with
The Music Teacher.

On occassion I'm unsuccessful at dodging Indian movies.
They do fantastic ham jobs.  Wave guitars and violins like
magic wands and expect them to produce sound.

TTYL,
Gautam

On 3/5/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/3/06, Gautam Sarup, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Don't think I ever saw Russell Crowe pretending to play
> >music but I have seen some others trying hopelessly.
>
> Violin in 'Master and Commander'.
>
> How about Gerard Depardieu in Tous les Matins du Monde
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>  Cotty
>
>
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
>
>
>

Re: Still winter

Jens, as posted, I think there's too much you're trying to convey in this 
image. IMHO you need to isolate & simplify. For example - reflections, the 
demarcation line between open water & ice etc.


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:52 AM
Subject: PESO: Still winter



This is a shot I took today - a small creek somewhere in Denmark - perhaps
40 km from Copenhagen.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/108172005/
Comments are welcome, naturally.
Regards
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

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Re: Constructive-Destructive critisisim wanted for these photos