Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

2006-04-01 Thread Don Williams

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

It's easy to imagine San Francisco without the Pyramid. which is
actually called the Transamerica Tower.  It's a recent addition to the city
- built around 1970-1972 - which makes it but 34 years old.  Like the
Eiffel Tower, it met with disdain and opposition when it was planned and
built.  To this day many long-time San Franciscans consider it an
abomination.


Shel



  
It's hard to imagine Paris w/o it though. Like London w/o Big Ben,  
Seattle w/o the Space Needle, SF w/o the Pyramid, St. Louis w/o the 
arch, NYC w/o the Empire State Building. 







  
Its very useful for navigation. It marks North Beach well and can be 
seen from many different parts of the city. I once decided to take a 
close look, but was diverted on the way and never got there. SF is one 
of my absolute favorite cities in the world. Paris would be next -- if 
it were not for the smoking.


Don

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re: Did anyone else catch this? (was *ist F1)

2006-04-01 Thread Roman

Sounds good. Are we having F1 in DSLR or it was just a misprint. The release 
date for 10Mpix F1 is scheduled for October 2006. I think using whatever 
gadgets we have for the time being we shall find out if its going to be F1 or 
D2. Pentax SMCP-DA 14mm f/2.8 AF is the one DA lense I'm planning to my budget 
this year.

One,
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 Note the camera referred to:  *ist f1

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Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

2006-04-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The building is not quite in North Beach.  It's actually on the edge of
Chinatown, and very close to the Financial District.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Don Williams 

 Its very useful for navigation. It marks North Beach well and can be 
 seen from many different parts of the city. I once decided to take a 
 close look, but was diverted on the way and never got there. SF is one 
 of my absolute favorite cities in the world. Paris would be next -- if 
 it were not for the smoking.




Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Dario Bonazza

In brief:

The AF500FTZ gives erratic results on the D, sometimes good and mostly 
overexposed.

The Sigma EF500 DG works well on the D.
The AF500FTZ works well on the DS.
The AF500FTZ doesn't work at all with the DL (always full power).

Dario

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Dario Bonazza wrote:
s I   own the D (which also doesn't work as well as the DS with TTL).

In what way doesn't the D work well with TTL? Please don't tell my two D 
cameras, because they both work fine with either TTL (AF 400T) or TTL-P 
(Sigma 500 Super).

Paul





Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Thibouille
In that kind of things but not photo related:

In Belgium we have a couple stores named Exell which are computer stores.
Well, most computer sciences student like to go to these when thay are
bored so they can play with sales people. It's really really much fun.

Of course when you hear what they advise to other buyers, then it's no
fun anymore.
I forgot to add that usually theses stores are about 10-15% higher
priced than other little stores and about 30% higher than internet
prices.


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Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Dario Bonazza

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:


On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

It may seem cold to say so, but he should probably have done more 
thorough research if that was his intent. The DL is the bottom of the 
line DSLR body ... Why should one assume that all things from the past 
are compatible with the least expensive body, intended for newcomers to 
the brand? Features are dropped to allow lower pricing on such equipment.


Your point about research is very valid. However, the -DL is the first 
Pentax since the Super-A not to feature TTL flash, thus the surprise. 
Also, Pentax at the time did not have but the puny 360 available, and 
still doesn't have something better.


And I'm not even sure the 360 works well on the D. I didn't check that combo 
enough to be sure, but I have that feeling from a few shots I took. At the 
end of the day, I'm afraid that the only TTL flash working well on the D to 
be the Sigma EF500 DG.


I do hope the next AF540FGZ will be capable to do the same, but I haven't 
had the chance to check it. Sure I will no longer buy a Pentax product 
without advance careful research and test on compatibility. Too high a risk 
to be fooled.


Apologies for the conjecture, but I doubt salespersons have realised the 
chop unless someone has returned a body to them for that reason.


I know I would.


That's exactly what happened.

Dario 



Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Thibouille
Seems consistent with what was already reported.
My Metz 40MZ2 is behaving as a 500ftz IMO. Sometimes OK but usually too much.
As I do NOT have any recent SCA adapter I can't even dial any correction :(

On 4/1/06, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In brief:

 The AF500FTZ gives erratic results on the D, sometimes good and mostly
 overexposed.
 The Sigma EF500 DG works well on the D.
 The AF500FTZ works well on the DS.
 The AF500FTZ doesn't work at all with the DL (always full power).

 Dario

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 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:41 PM
 Subject: Re: DL TTL flash madness


 
  Dario Bonazza wrote:
  s I   own the D (which also doesn't work as well as the DS with TTL).
 
  In what way doesn't the D work well with TTL? Please don't tell my two D
  cameras, because they both work fine with either TTL (AF 400T) or TTL-P
  (Sigma 500 Super).
  Paul
 




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Re: New rebates on Pentax lenses expected

2006-04-01 Thread Thibouille
Why are rebates always limited to US.
I hate that ;)

On 4/1/06, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The rebate program is already announced on the Pentax web site.

 Basically, for the next three months, there's a $100 rebate on
 lots of nice lenses (including the limiteds, the 16-45, and the
 10-17 fisheye), and a $50 rebate on several others (notable
 among them being the DA 50-200 and the FA 50mm).

 I wonder if this is designed to tempt those of us who are
 waiting to see what innovations the DA f2.8 zooms offer?
 I think it might work - I feel a need for a fisheye zoom ...


 On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 07:54:53PM -0500, Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
  For whatever it's worth, I just received a SPAM message from Pentax
  (aka updates) with the following information (see below).
 
  My comments:
  1. The rebate coupon is already there:
  http://www.pentaxslr.com/files/scms_docs//YOUR_CHOICE_Lens_Coupon_12Lenses_040106.pdf
 
  It looks the same as the previous one.
  Didn't I say this earlier, that I'd expect the prices going down
  shortly after the end of the rebate or yet another rebate starting?
 
  2. Am I too critical or indeed, some images from Kelly Invitational
  event could have been of a better quality?
 
  Igor
 
  SPAM (aka updates) from Pentax:
 
  Been thinking about adding a new element to your photography? With our new 
  lens
  rebate program, it's your choice. Most PENTAX Digital SLR lenses will 
  feature a
  rebate, starting April 1, 2006.
 
  As a PENTAX owner, you know that our products are world-renowned. Each lens
  features the latest in lens technology and materials, and every smc PENTAX
  lens features our acclaimed multi-layer coating to lower surface reflection,
  reduce ultra violet rays, and deliver clear, high-contrast images.
  Famous for pristine clarity, superb contrast, and superior quality, smc
  PENTAX lenses are the exceptional choice for discerning photographers of
  every level.
 
  Save today! Visit www.pentaxslr.comour Web site for all of the details,
  including a downloadable form with the rebate offers.
 
  Also, please check out the Kelly Slater Invitational Web site at
  www.kellyslaterinvitational.com. Most of the amazing photos from the
  event, which was sponsored by PENTAX, were taken with our family of cameras.
 




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Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

2006-04-01 Thread John Forbes

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 03:41:53 +0100, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



John,

Do you imply that Cotty is wicked? ;-)


Of course.  In one sense of the word, anyway.

John




Igor

Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:39:04 -0800
John Forbes wrote:


You need an up-to-date dictionary, Igor. Wicked means ultra-cool.
At least, it does to the under-twenties, and Cotty.

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Re: What would be a good name for the new body?

2006-04-01 Thread John Forbes
I go with the DX suggestion.  Logical, sensible, sounds good.  So will  
Pentax use it?..


John

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 07:24:16 +0100, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


Pentax get stupid ideas about names. What the ... does *ist mean?  
Hobbyist

(star for hobby - any hobby).
They will sure think up some crazy name this time too. Like Pentax *ist  
D2.

Like
I'd be quite happy with Pentax D2, Pentax Super D or  Pentax DM  
(Deca

Mega-pixel)
Regards

Jens Bladt
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Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: What would be a good name for the new body?


I'd like to call it testarosa.
  The red-headed step child.
  (With apologies to anyone who happes to be such.)

  Collin (Never known for a well-developed sense of humor)
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Re: LONDON PDML SPRING 2006

2006-04-01 Thread John Forbes

On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 07:54:43 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 1/4/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed:


Yup, it's time to consider a change.  The way I see it is that it's a
thankless task, and Cotty's been doing it for years.  The man needs a
break.

On the other hand, Cotty's got the experience, and twelve months is more
than enough time to recover from the last one.

So, on balance, I nominate Cotty.

All in favour, say Aye!


Didn't anyone tell you that I retired ages ago? The last time it was not
me, one of my replicants. There's quite a few of us trundling around the
country. One is a successful pirate in the South China Seas. except he
had an accident and is a few inches shorter. Another owns a cheese shop
in Dijon. We're everywhere.


I had suspected this.  Anyway, it provides a suitable solution to the  
problem.


What date does your replicant have in mind?

John


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Re: New rebates on Pentax lenses expected

2006-04-01 Thread John Forbes
On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 10:21:58 +0100, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Why are rebates always limited to US.
I hate that ;)


I keep a brother in Texas (poor chap) just for that purpose.

John




On 4/1/06, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The rebate program is already announced on the Pentax web site.

Basically, for the next three months, there's a $100 rebate on
lots of nice lenses (including the limiteds, the 16-45, and the
10-17 fisheye), and a $50 rebate on several others (notable
among them being the DA 50-200 and the FA 50mm).

I wonder if this is designed to tempt those of us who are
waiting to see what innovations the DA f2.8 zooms offer?
I think it might work - I feel a need for a fisheye zoom ...


On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 07:54:53PM -0500, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 For whatever it's worth, I just received a SPAM message from Pentax
 (aka updates) with the following information (see below).

 My comments:
 1. The rebate coupon is already there:
  
http://www.pentaxslr.com/files/scms_docs//YOUR_CHOICE_Lens_Coupon_12Lenses_040106.pdf


 It looks the same as the previous one.
 Didn't I say this earlier, that I'd expect the prices going down
 shortly after the end of the rebate or yet another rebate starting?

 2. Am I too critical or indeed, some images from Kelly Invitational
 event could have been of a better quality?

 Igor

 SPAM (aka updates) from Pentax:

 Been thinking about adding a new element to your photography? With  
our new lens
 rebate program, it's your choice. Most PENTAX Digital SLR lenses will  
feature a

 rebate, starting April 1, 2006.

 As a PENTAX owner, you know that our products are world-renowned.  
Each lens
 features the latest in lens technology and materials, and every smc  
PENTAX
 lens features our acclaimed multi-layer coating to lower surface  
reflection,

 reduce ultra violet rays, and deliver clear, high-contrast images.
 Famous for pristine clarity, superb contrast, and superior quality,  
smc
 PENTAX lenses are the exceptional choice for discerning photographers  
of

 every level.

 Save today! Visit www.pentaxslr.comour Web site for all of the  
details,

 including a downloadable form with the rebate offers.

 Also, please check out the Kelly Slater Invitational Web site at
 www.kellyslaterinvitational.com. Most of the amazing photos from the
 event, which was sponsored by PENTAX, were taken with our family of  
cameras.







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RE: New rebates on Pentax lenses expected

2006-04-01 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
 From: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 01 April 2006 10:22
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: New rebates on Pentax lenses expected
 
 Why are rebates always limited to US.
 I hate that ;)
 

They give different inducements in different countries based upon cultural
preferences. In the USA they give rebates because all Americans are obsessed
with money. In France they give brothel vouchers, whereas Germans receive
enema tokens. In Britain they allow us to pay extra for our cameras, and
give us a free telescopic umbrella worth £5.99.

Bob






Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Dario Bonazza wrote:

At the 
end of the day, I'm afraid that the only TTL flash working well on the D to 
be the Sigma EF500 DG.


And that's P-TTL, right? Or are you saying that it has a TTL mode and 
it works well on the -D?


Kostas



RE: OT - Eiffel Tower

2006-04-01 Thread Bob W
Slate has a series of pictures of the Eiffel Tower by Magnum photographers:
http://todayspictures.slate.com/20060330/

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 Bob 

  Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:35:37 -0800
  Cotty ambiguously wrote:
 
  On 31/3/06, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  I have a different point of view... :-)
  
  http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Eiffel-100_0125-800x600.jpg
  





Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Dario Bonazza

Yes, P-TTL.

My point is that, before exploring the nuances of TTL vs.P-TTL, one needs a 
reliable system.

The D only gets that with the Sigma DG (P-TTL).
The DS gets that with any TTL/P-TTL flash I've tried so far, old  new.

That's a big improvement IMO, too quickly thrown away with the DL.

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: DL TTL flash madness



On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Dario Bonazza wrote:

At the end of the day, I'm afraid that the only TTL flash working well on 
the D to be the Sigma EF500 DG.


And that's P-TTL, right? Or are you saying that it has a TTL mode and it 
works well on the -D?


Kostas





WTB: Any one got a 35/2 lens for sale

2006-04-01 Thread Paul

Hi,

Is any one out there selling a 35/2?

I'm after a 35mm F2 in K mount, will consider K,M,A or FA.

Email me off list.

Thanks,
Paul



Re: New rebates on Pentax lenses expected

2006-04-01 Thread John Forbes

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:22:22 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


-Original Message-
From: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 April 2006 10:22
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New rebates on Pentax lenses expected

Why are rebates always limited to US.
I hate that ;)



They give different inducements in different countries based upon  
cultural
preferences. In the USA they give rebates because all Americans are  
obsessed

with money. In France they give brothel vouchers, whereas Germans receive
enema tokens. In Britain they allow us to pay extra for our cameras, and
give us a free telescopic umbrella worth £5.99.


I think I'll relocate my brother to Paris.

John


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Re: New rebates on Pentax lenses expected

2006-04-01 Thread David Savage
On 4/1/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  -Original Message-
  Wrom: BARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJVZCMHVIBGDADRZFSQHYUCDD
  Sent: 01 April 2006 10:22
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: New rebates on Pentax lenses expected
 
  Why are rebates always limited to US.
  I hate that ;)
 

 They give different inducements in different countries based upon cultural
 preferences. In the USA they give rebates because all Americans are obsessed
 with money. In France they give brothel vouchers, whereas Germans receive
 enema tokens. In Britain they allow us to pay extra for our cameras, and
 give us a free telescopic umbrella worth £5.99.

 Bob


And in Australia they give us inflated prices  F.A. else.

Dave :-)

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Re: OT: Why big negs

2006-04-01 Thread Bob Shell


On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've been getting as much for ink-jet prints as I ever got for  
optical prints. More, in fact. However, I don't call them ink-jet  
prints. Taking a clue from the pricey galleries, I call them giclee  
prints. The term giclee merely means a print created with a spray  
of liquid. It's accurate, if a bit pretentious. But people enjoy a  
bit of pretention every now and then. Particularly when they're  
opening their pocketbooks.


Isn't it silly how much difference a name makes?  I've found  
galleries reluctant to hang or sell inkjet prints.  Give the same  
print a French name that means spurt and they love it.  Sort of  
like the days when sheared lamb coats were sold in the USA at high  
prices and called mouton!  It's still sheared lamb and inkjet in  
the real world.


Galleries are really only concerned that their customers don't come  
screaming back in a year with a faded print.


Bob



RE: PESO: Greenhouse in infrared

2006-04-01 Thread Fred Widall

Markus,

Good question. I was trying to maximise the shutter speed. In most of the 
other shots I had people walking by and I was trying not to 'blur' them. I 
never thought to change the ISO when I was shooting this greenhouse.


I've found that with this filter, if the image is dim  on the LCD then the 
noise level is really bad when I go to process the image later.  Being 
able to shoot at a high ISO really helps.


You should pick one up, its fun. I got mine on Ebay for less than US$40
including dlivery.

Fred.

On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Markus Maurer wrote:


Hi Fred
You used a really interesting combination of old and new equipment well
here!
Why ISO 1600 when you used a tripod?
I would like to try that filter too ;-)
greetings
Markus






Re: What would be a good name for the new body?

2006-04-01 Thread Mark Roberts
John Forbes wrote:

I go with the DX suggestion.  Logical, sensible, sounds good.  So will  
Pentax use it?..

Nikon has registered DX as a trademark for their APS-C-sized series
of lenses and digital cameras. In fact, they generally refer to
reduced-frame digital as DX format rather than APS-C.

So the answer is probably no :)



Re: What would be a good name for the new body?

2006-04-01 Thread David Savage
On 4/1/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John Forbes wrote:

 I go with the DX suggestion.  Logical, sensible, sounds good.  So will
 Pentax use it?..

 Nikon has registered DX as a trademark for their APS-C-sized series
 of lenses and digital cameras. In fact, they generally refer to
 reduced-frame digital as DX format rather than APS-C.

 So the answer is probably no :)


How about DIX?

What sort of camera do you use?

I'm a DIX user

...maybe not

:-)

Dave


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Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Thibouille
Well, DL was not supposed to replace the DS.
DL is just a lower spec DS. Good or bad i don't know but it is logical
something is missing on the DL compared to the DS and DL being a more
coming from bridge type of camera I guess the middle user buying a
DL shouldn't be bothered by the lack of plain TTL.

Now, for us looking for a cheap body, it is PITA I confess.

On 4/1/06, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, P-TTL.

 My point is that, before exploring the nuances of TTL vs.P-TTL, one needs a
 reliable system.
 The D only gets that with the Sigma DG (P-TTL).
 The DS gets that with any TTL/P-TTL flash I've tried so far, old  new.

 That's a big improvement IMO, too quickly thrown away with the DL.

 Dario

 - Original Message -
 From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 12:34 PM
 Subject: Re: DL TTL flash madness


  On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
  At the end of the day, I'm afraid that the only TTL flash working well on
  the D to be the Sigma EF500 DG.
 
  And that's P-TTL, right? Or are you saying that it has a TTL mode and it
  works well on the -D?
 
  Kostas
 




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Re: What would be a good name for the new body?

2006-04-01 Thread Christian
Fifties and sixties race cars for the road, sure, I'd expect spartan and 
not well finished.  The 250 SWB was a race car that people drove on the 
road.  Now, if I'm paying $85k (1984 dollars) for a road car that was 
not meant to be raced like the Testarossa, I'd expect the glovebox to 
close properly.  Still a huge fan of the prancing horse, and the TR 
is a car I've always loved and wanted to own/drive with its outrageous 
cheese-grater inlets and I was fortunate enough to have a friend who 
trusted me with his car :-)


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Paul Stenquist wrote:
Ditto. Fit, finish and Ferarri have never been bedfellows. Fun, fury and 
Ferarri are a much better match.

Paul
On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Christian wrote:

A friend had a 1985 Testarossa.  Fun car, but it really ruined the 
Ferrari mystique for me.  While it sounded amazing and was awesome to 
drive, the fit and finish was no better than my 86 Hyundai.  The 
interior finish was absolutely atrocious.  I understand they are 
better now, but I've not been able to drive a newer model.



I don't know about that, Christian. Ferraris, at least the old ones, 
were never all that well finished in terms of upholstery and paint. 
They put all their money on the mechanicals and attended to the 
interior with casual it doesn't make it go any faster panache. My 
all time favorites, the 1961-62 250SWBs, were little more than racing 
cars with a couple of leather seats and a floor mat, road lighting. 
Forget air conditioning, sound deadening, and all that rubbish.


But, man, they were fun to drive!

Godfrey








Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
The AF400T works great on the D. i think the reason Dario and others 
have experienced so many failures and erratic behavior patterns with 
certain flashes on the D is that the connectors on the D hotshoe 
sometimes have trouble making contact. That would explain the erratic 
results with some flash units. Mounting is critical. The AF 400T 
doesn't mount on the shoe of course. It uses a cable that attaches to 
the shoe. I think the weight of some flashes on the shoe causes them to 
rock back and forth a bit, interrupting contact. Even the Sigma has to 
be mounted carefully, and the wheel has to be tightened aggressively.

Paul
On Apr 1, 2006, at 5:34 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:


On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Dario Bonazza wrote:

At the end of the day, I'm afraid that the only TTL flash working 
well on the D to be the Sigma EF500 DG.


And that's P-TTL, right? Or are you saying that it has a TTL mode and 
it works well on the -D?


Kostas





Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Dario Bonazza

Thibouille wrote:


Well, DL was not supposed to replace the DS.
DL is just a lower spec DS. Good or bad i don't know but it is logical
something is missing on the DL compared to the DS and DL being a more
coming from bridge type of camera I guess the middle user buying a
DL shouldn't be bothered by the lack of plain TTL.


Unfortunately, in practice the DL replaced the Ds, which in turn replaced 
the D.
I know that's not supposed to be the case, but it was what happened in many 
countries, where Pentax importers only distributed a body at a time.


In  Italy, D distribution ended December 2004 (clearance sale of last 12 
cameras happened in January 2005), while DS and DL overlapped for 2-3 months 
in late 2005.


So, there's usually no real choice for anybody wanting to buy a Pentax DSLR 
over here: one model at a time, always stepping down as models are replaced 
:-(


The situation might change this April, when the Samsung GX-1S (DS2) is 
supposed to be on sale.
BTW, have you noticed that Samsung DSLR manuals are available for download 
at www.samsungcamera.com ?


Dario 



Re: What would be a good name for the new body?

2006-04-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Nikon has registered DX as a trademark for their APS-C-sized series
of lenses and digital cameras. In fact, they generally refer to
reduced-frame digital as DX format rather than APS-C.


That shows remarkable sensibility, given that the sensor is not APS-C  
format..  :-)


Godfrey



Re: What would be a good name for the new body?

2006-04-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
G'morning ...

What is it then?  It seems that there are various APS formats.  What are
they, and what are the specs?

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

  Nikon has registered DX as a trademark for their 
  APS-C-sized series of lenses and digital cameras. 
  In fact, they generally refer to reduced-frame digital 
  as DX format rather than APS-C.

 That shows remarkable sensibility, given that the sensor is 
 not APS-C  format..  :-)




Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist

Subject: Re: DL TTL flash madness


The AF400T works great on the D. i think the reason Dario and others have 
experienced so many failures and erratic behavior patterns with certain 
flashes on the D is that the connectors on the D hotshoe sometimes have 
trouble making contact. That would explain the erratic results with some 
flash units. Mounting is critical. The AF 400T doesn't mount on the shoe 
of course. It uses a cable that attaches to the shoe. I think the weight 
of some flashes on the shoe causes them to rock back and forth a bit, 
interrupting contact. Even the Sigma has to be mounted carefully, and the 
wheel has to be tightened aggressively.


This doesn't explain the poor TTL performance I have gotten with my Metz 
60CT/2.
It also uses a small box attached to the hot shoe, and the contacts were 
cleaned just prior to my last flash fiasco.


William Robb 





Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bill and others,

I don't use flash, so I cannot recommend this from personal experience,
however, a few people I know have suggested a product called Digital Flash
Powder  as something that can help the erratic performance of some flash
units used on DSLR cameras.  A Google search should turn up some hits and
some information on the product, which, as I recall, is made by a small
company in Montana.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: William Robb 

 This doesn't explain the poor TTL performance I have gotten with my Metz 
 60CT/2.
 It also uses a small box attached to the hot shoe, and the contacts were 
 cleaned just prior to my last flash fiasco.




Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Toine
I doubt the connector is the problem.
Install the flash/camera combo on a tripod, select a static subject,
and expose a series of 4 shots with 200, 400, 800 and 1600 ISO. I
don't see why the exposures shouldn't be identical. In real live with
my D creates a series of underexposed, correctly exposed, over exposed
and horribly overexposed depending on ISO setting.
If I forget to use ISO 400 during flash use I'm in trouble.

Toine

On 4/1/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The AF400T works great on the D. i think the reason Dario and others
 have experienced so many failures and erratic behavior patterns with
 certain flashes on the D is that the connectors on the D hotshoe
 sometimes have trouble making contact. That would explain the erratic
 results with some flash units. Mounting is critical. The AF 400T
 doesn't mount on the shoe of course. It uses a cable that attaches to
 the shoe. I think the weight of some flashes on the shoe causes them to
 rock back and forth a bit, interrupting contact. Even the Sigma has to
 be mounted carefully, and the wheel has to be tightened aggressively.
 Paul
 On Apr 1, 2006, at 5:34 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

  On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
  At the end of the day, I'm afraid that the only TTL flash working
  well on the D to be the Sigma EF500 DG.
 
  And that's P-TTL, right? Or are you saying that it has a TTL mode and
  it works well on the -D?
 
  Kostas
 





Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Jack Davis
Made by a company known as Muskets for Freedom.

Jack

--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bill and others,
 
 I don't use flash, so I cannot recommend this from personal
 experience,
 however, a few people I know have suggested a product called Digital
 Flash
 Powder  as something that can help the erratic performance of some
 flash
 units used on DSLR cameras.  A Google search should turn up some hits
 and
 some information on the product, which, as I recall, is made by a
 small
 company in Montana.
 
 Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: William Robb 
 
  This doesn't explain the poor TTL performance I have gotten with my
 Metz 
  60CT/2.
  It also uses a small box attached to the hot shoe, and the contacts
 were 
  cleaned just prior to my last flash fiasco.
 
 
 


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Re: What would be a good name for the new body?

2006-04-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Advanced Photo System film specifications
http://www.kodak.com/cluster/global/en/consumer/APS/redBook/ 
aboutSystem.shtml


Rounding to half-mm accuracy:
Full frame H format is 17mm x 30mm and is always recorded on the film.
C-type format is 2:3 proportions - 17mm x 25.5mm
P-type format is 9:16 proportion - 9.5mm x 30mm

Godfrey

On Apr 1, 2006, at 6:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


G'morning ...

What is it then?  It seems that there are various APS formats.   
What are

they, and what are the specs?

Shel




[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi



Nikon has registered DX as a trademark for their
APS-C-sized series of lenses and digital cameras.
In fact, they generally refer to reduced-frame digital
as DX format rather than APS-C.


That shows remarkable sensibility, given that the sensor is
not APS-C  format..  :-)







Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Kenneth Waller

a few people I know have suggested a product called Digital Flash
Powder  as something that can help the erratic performance of some flash
units used on DSLR cameras.


Shel - thanks for the info

While I haven't tried it yet, I've heard it's good bang for the buck.
I hear it's really good especially the first application.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: DL TTL flash madness



Bill and others,

I don't use flash, so I cannot recommend this from personal experience,
however, a few people I know have suggested a product called Digital 
Flash

Powder  as something that can help the erratic performance of some flash
units used on DSLR cameras.  A Google search should turn up some hits and
some information on the product, which, as I recall, is made by a small
company in Montana.

Shel




[Original Message]
From: William Robb



This doesn't explain the poor TTL performance I have gotten with my Metz
60CT/2.
It also uses a small box attached to the hot shoe, and the contacts were
cleaned just prior to my last flash fiasco.







SMC Pentax-M 50mm fix

2006-04-01 Thread Grunt
Hi everyone,
I recently succeeded in fixing 2 Pentax 50mm lenses that had the focus
jammed. I have documented the experience at this site for those who might be
interested.
http://grantharg.tripod.com/CameraRepair/M50mmfixa.htm
It compliments my MG fix page.
http://grantharg.tripod.com/CameraRepair/MGfixa.htm

Grant



Re: What would be a good name for the new body?

2006-04-01 Thread Jack Davis
Godfrey,
In applying 4th grade arithmetic and, very likely, my complete
misunderstanding of the P-type proportions, I'm sore confused.
9:16=0.56:l.0 or 17x30.
I'd appreciate not being to embarrassed by your answer. ;-/

Jack

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Advanced Photo System film specifications
 http://www.kodak.com/cluster/global/en/consumer/APS/redBook/ 
 aboutSystem.shtml
 
 Rounding to half-mm accuracy:
 Full frame H format is 17mm x 30mm and is always recorded on the
 film.
 C-type format is 2:3 proportions - 17mm x 25.5mm
 P-type format is 9:16 proportion - 9.5mm x 30mm
 
 Godfrey
 
 On Apr 1, 2006, at 6:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
  G'morning ...
 
  What is it then?  It seems that there are various APS formats.   
  What are
  they, and what are the specs?
 
  Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
 
  Nikon has registered DX as a trademark for their
  APS-C-sized series of lenses and digital cameras.
  In fact, they generally refer to reduced-frame digital
  as DX format rather than APS-C.
 
  That shows remarkable sensibility, given that the sensor is
  not APS-C  format..  :-)
 
 
 
 


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Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Paul,

When using the 400T, do you dial in any negative compensation?  Also
what ISO's have you tried it with.  I have shot many weddings with
mine, but I am usually at ISO 400 and compensation set to about -2.  I
haven't really fiddled with the connector at all and am wondering if
perhaps I should.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.

-- 
Bruce


Saturday, April 1, 2006, 5:47:07 AM, you wrote:

PS The AF400T works great on the D. i think the reason Dario and others
PS have experienced so many failures and erratic behavior patterns with
PS certain flashes on the D is that the connectors on the D hotshoe 
PS sometimes have trouble making contact. That would explain the erratic
PS results with some flash units. Mounting is critical. The AF 400T 
PS doesn't mount on the shoe of course. It uses a cable that attaches to
PS the shoe. I think the weight of some flashes on the shoe causes them to
PS rock back and forth a bit, interrupting contact. Even the Sigma has to
PS be mounted carefully, and the wheel has to be tightened aggressively.
PS Paul
PS On Apr 1, 2006, at 5:34 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

 On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 At the end of the day, I'm afraid that the only TTL flash working 
 well on the D to be the Sigma EF500 DG.

 And that's P-TTL, right? Or are you saying that it has a TTL mode and
 it works well on the -D?

 Kostas





Re: Bailing out.

2006-04-01 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:

But, Keith, look at the opportunities:

http://mat.gsia.cmu.edu/POB/DEC0998/0519.html

Kostas (Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinus 
alacribus et fructuosis potiri potes!)


That's an interesting site, Kostas!  g



They left out Cotty's favourite: 


Heia! asellum meum palma ferite ac me Eruptionem nominate!

3 gold stars for the first correct translation...

Robertus scripsit



Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.

Re vera, cara mea, mea nil refert.



PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

What do you say?

Boris



RE: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Bob W
One can't say much about minimalism...

But that's a very beautiful photo.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 01 April 2006 19:15
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Minimalism
 
 Hi!
 
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858
 
 What do you say?
 
 Boris
 
 
 
 





RE: Bailing out.

2006-04-01 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
 From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 01 April 2006 18:11
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Bailing out.
 
 Bob W wrote:
 But, Keith, look at the opportunities:
 
 http://mat.gsia.cmu.edu/POB/DEC0998/0519.html
 
 Kostas (Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinus 
 alacribus et fructuosis potiri potes!)
 
 That's an interesting site, Kostas!  g
 
  
  They left out Cotty's favourite: 
  
  Heia! asellum meum palma ferite ac me Eruptionem nominate!
  
  3 gold stars for the first correct translation...
  
  Robertus scripsit
  
 
 Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.
 
 Re vera, cara mea, mea nil refert.
 
 
 
 

facillimus!





Re: Bailing out.

2006-04-01 Thread keith_w

Bob W wrote:


-Original Message-
From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 April 2006 18:11

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Bailing out.

Bob W wrote:


But, Keith, look at the opportunities:

http://mat.gsia.cmu.edu/POB/DEC0998/0519.html

Kostas (Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinus 
alacribus et fructuosis potiri potes!)


That's an interesting site, Kostas!  g

They left out Cotty's favourite: 


Heia! asellum meum palma ferite ac me Eruptionem nominate!

3 gold stars for the first correct translation...

Robertus scripsit



Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.

Re vera, cara mea, mea nil refert.




facillimus!


Gasp! don't get caught at it! At least in public.

keith



Re: Rebate posted today

2006-04-01 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=7495423

May have already been reported here, but here it is anyway.
Lenses listed:
snip
 ($100) smc P-FA 77mm F1.8 Limited Lens (black or silver)

Aaaagh!
Just what I needed. More temptation.
 



Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Scott Loveless
Excellent!

On 4/1/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

 What do you say?

 Boris




--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman



Re: Enablement

2006-04-01 Thread Jostein
Chiming in late on this one...

Congrats, Sylwek! 
Sounds like your intial experience with the A* is very similar to mine. I'm sure
you will be happy with it. :-)

How did you remove the tripod collar?

Jostein

Quoting Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 If you remember my post from about two weeks ago I was asking some questions
 about FA* 200/4 macro. Unfortunately it happened that it wasn't FA* but
 rather A* version that Polish Pentax dealer had for sale. I decided not to
 buy it. But after my complains about dealer's mistake and that this old
 manual focus lens is not worth money they asked for FA* version, they
 lowered price to the point that I decided to buy it. And I must say that it
 wasn't bad decision at all, especially that A* 200/4 macro after removing
 tripod mount is not that much bigger and heavier than FA 100/2.8 macro :-)
 First results, even at open aperture are just stunning!
 
 -- 
 Balance is the ultimate good...
 
 Best Regards
 Sylwek
 
 





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Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread mike wilson

Jack Davis wrote:


Made by a company known as Muskets for Freedom.

Jack


Which bayonet mount does it use?



--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Bill and others,

I don't use flash, so I cannot recommend this from personal
experience,
however, a few people I know have suggested a product called Digital
Flash
Powder  as something that can help the erratic performance of some
flash
units used on DSLR cameras.  A Google search should turn up some hits
and
some information on the product, which, as I recall, is made by a
small
company in Montana.

Shel





[Original Message]
From: William Robb 



This doesn't explain the poor TTL performance I have gotten with my


Metz 


60CT/2.
It also uses a small box attached to the hot shoe, and the contacts


were 


cleaned just prior to my last flash fiasco.







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Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread keith_w

Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

What do you say?

Boris


Absolutely lovely!

Now carefully press a red ink chop stamp in the lower left corner, and frame it.

Beautiful job!

keith



Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Boris,

Very nice indeed!  You really did a great job here.  I like the
presentation.

-- 
Bruce


Saturday, April 1, 2006, 10:14:45 AM, you wrote:

BL Hi!

BL http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

BL What do you say?

BL Boris




Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:

 --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I don't use flash, so I cannot recommend this from personal experience,
 however, a few people I know have suggested a product called 
Digital Flash Powder

 Made by a company known as Muskets for Freedom.
 
 Jack

Which bayonet mount does it use?

Don't bother: It causes lots of barrel distortion.

(I had to rifle through my notes to find this information.)



Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Jack Davis
One that didn't sell well. IOW, turned out to be a 'flash in the pan'.
Sorry!

J

--- mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jack Davis wrote:
 
  Made by a company known as Muskets for Freedom.
  
  Jack
 
 Which bayonet mount does it use?
 
  
  --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 Bill and others,
 
 I don't use flash, so I cannot recommend this from personal
 experience,
 however, a few people I know have suggested a product called
 Digital
 Flash
 Powder  as something that can help the erratic performance of some
 flash
 units used on DSLR cameras.  A Google search should turn up some
 hits
 and
 some information on the product, which, as I recall, is made by a
 small
 company in Montana.
 
 Shel
 
 
 
 
 [Original Message]
 From: William Robb 
 
 This doesn't explain the poor TTL performance I have gotten with
 my
 
 Metz 
 
 60CT/2.
 It also uses a small box attached to the hot shoe, and the
 contacts
 
 were 
 
 cleaned just prior to my last flash fiasco.
 
 
 
  
  
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Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Jack Davis
Extremely nice! I say; could use a slight crop on the left side.

Jack

--- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858
 
 What do you say?
 
 Boris
 
 


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Re: PESO - A bug in the field

2006-04-01 Thread Jostein
Hi Ken,

I think it's a good shot. They often let the wings fall towards the ventral side
so that it's difficult to get the whole wing into focus at the same time. IMO,
it looks like a good trade-off between DOF and blurred background.

Still, I do think the background is a bit busy. Not in texture, of course, but
in colour intensity. In the shooting situation, I think I would have tried to
avoid a bright background, but that's something you know just as well as I
do...:-) Some post-processing of the shot you have could reduce the effect of
the colour (eg. using Selective Colour in Photoshop, to take some juice out of
the green).

Also, I think maybe the colours on abdomen would be more justified if contrast
was reduced a little bit.

Still, all in my subjective opinion, of course. 

Thanks for posting.

Jostein

Quoting Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Check out
  http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
 
 Comments solicited
 
 Good/Bad/Indifferent
 
 What can you suggest/what would you have done differently?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 





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Re: Bailing out.

2006-04-01 Thread mike wilson

keith_w wrote:


Bob W wrote:


-Original Message-
From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 April 
2006 18:11

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Bailing out.

Bob W wrote:


But, Keith, look at the opportunities:

http://mat.gsia.cmu.edu/POB/DEC0998/0519.html

Kostas (Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinus 
alacribus et fructuosis potiri potes!)



That's an interesting site, Kostas!  g


They left out Cotty's favourite:
Heia! asellum meum palma ferite ac me Eruptionem nominate!

3 gold stars for the first correct translation...

Robertus scripsit




Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate non iam adesse.

Re vera, cara mea, mea nil refert.





facillimus!



Gasp! don't get caught at it! At least in public.

keith


Verba tua intellegere non possum.  Filone ferreo maxillae tuae iunctae sunt?



Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Tom C
It sounds almost like a simple software oversight involving 3rd grade 
mathematics.


Tom C.





From: Toine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: DL TTL flash madness
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 17:24:51 +0200

I doubt the connector is the problem.
Install the flash/camera combo on a tripod, select a static subject,
and expose a series of 4 shots with 200, 400, 800 and 1600 ISO. I
don't see why the exposures shouldn't be identical. In real live with
my D creates a series of underexposed, correctly exposed, over exposed
and horribly overexposed depending on ISO setting.
If I forget to use ISO 400 during flash use I'm in trouble.

Toine

On 4/1/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The AF400T works great on the D. i think the reason Dario and others
 have experienced so many failures and erratic behavior patterns with
 certain flashes on the D is that the connectors on the D hotshoe
 sometimes have trouble making contact. That would explain the erratic
 results with some flash units. Mounting is critical. The AF 400T
 doesn't mount on the shoe of course. It uses a cable that attaches to
 the shoe. I think the weight of some flashes on the shoe causes them to
 rock back and forth a bit, interrupting contact. Even the Sigma has to
 be mounted carefully, and the wheel has to be tightened aggressively.
 Paul
 On Apr 1, 2006, at 5:34 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

  On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
  At the end of the day, I'm afraid that the only TTL flash working
  well on the D to be the Sigma EF500 DG.
 
  And that's P-TTL, right? Or are you saying that it has a TTL mode and
  it works well on the -D?
 
  Kostas
 








Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread mike wilson

Mark Roberts wrote:


mike wilson wrote:



Jack Davis wrote:



--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I don't use flash, so I cannot recommend this from personal experience,
however, a few people I know have suggested a product called 
Digital Flash Powder


Made by a company known as Muskets for Freedom.

Jack


Which bayonet mount does it use?



Don't bother: It causes lots of barrel distortion.

(I had to rifle through my notes to find this information.)


Sorry but I think you're spouting a lot of balls.



Remarkable lens for sale

2006-04-01 Thread Joseph Tainter
Respecting that someone on the list might want it I won't 
divulge the location. Somewhere in the world, right now, on 
eBay, there is a 300 mm. F1.4 lens for sale in Pentax mount.


At least that is what the listing says.

Joe



Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Toine
Very very nice.

On 4/1/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

 What do you say?

 Boris





Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Tom C

Hi!

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

What do you say?

Boris



Ooooh. Aaaah.  With this shot you've transcended mere photography and 
created a piece of art.


Tom C.




Re: Enablement

2006-04-01 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

On 2006-04-01, at 19:43, Jostein wrote:


Chiming in late on this one...

Better late than never as Englishmen used to say ;-)


Congrats, Sylwek!

Thanks!

Sounds like your intial experience with the A* is very similar to  
mine. I'm sure

you will be happy with it. :-)
I already am (don't even know if I can say that way in English) -  
every new picture that I make ensures me that it is top class lens in  
every respect. And you were right - it performs very well at longer  
distances (probably due to FREE). I am very glad I chose it over  
cheaper Sigma EX 180/3.5!



How did you remove the tripod collar?
Ah yes, you're right, I should say only tripod mount, the collar is  
non-removable ;-)


--
Best regards
Sylwek




Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


Hi!

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

What do you say?

Boris



Ooooh. Aaaah.  With this shot you've transcended mere photography and 
created a piece of art.


Tom, you make me loose a gift of speech.

Good thing, I still have a gift of touch-typing ;-).

But thanks! I will probably print it real big as it easily lends itself 
to enlargement this way.


Boris



RE: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
I say:
This is a seductive image. (Translated to Norwegian that’s a compliment, I
hope it is in English too)
Brilliant idea, very well executed. Simple and elegant. 
This is the best photo I've seen from you Boris ;-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 1. april 2006 20:15
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Minimalism
 
 Hi!
 
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858
 
 What do you say?
 
 Boris
 






RE: Remarkable lens for sale

2006-04-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
What date is it today?


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 1. april 2006 20:14
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Remarkable lens for sale
 
 Respecting that someone on the list might want it I won't
 divulge the location. Somewhere in the world, right now, on
 eBay, there is a 300 mm. F1.4 lens for sale in Pentax mount.
 
 At least that is what the listing says.
 
 Joe
 





Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Unca Mikey
Wonderful photograph!  I wouldn't crop a pixel anywhere, I think it's 
perfect just as it is.  And I agree, this is art, and very well done 
at that.


*UncaMikey

On 4/1/06, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi!

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

 What do you say?

 Boris




Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread Paul Stenquist

Hi Bruce,
I it at 200 and 400 without any compensation. But I always use an omni 
reflector or soft box attachment.

Paul
On Apr 1, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


Hello Paul,

When using the 400T, do you dial in any negative compensation?  Also
what ISO's have you tried it with.  I have shot many weddings with
mine, but I am usually at ISO 400 and compensation set to about -2.  I
haven't really fiddled with the connector at all and am wondering if
perhaps I should.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.

--
Bruce


Saturday, April 1, 2006, 5:47:07 AM, you wrote:

PS The AF400T works great on the D. i think the reason Dario and 
others
PS have experienced so many failures and erratic behavior patterns 
with

PS certain flashes on the D is that the connectors on the D hotshoe
PS sometimes have trouble making contact. That would explain the 
erratic

PS results with some flash units. Mounting is critical. The AF 400T
PS doesn't mount on the shoe of course. It uses a cable that attaches 
to
PS the shoe. I think the weight of some flashes on the shoe causes 
them to
PS rock back and forth a bit, interrupting contact. Even the Sigma 
has to
PS be mounted carefully, and the wheel has to be tightened 
aggressively.

PS Paul
PS On Apr 1, 2006, at 5:34 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:


On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Dario Bonazza wrote:


At the end of the day, I'm afraid that the only TTL flash working
well on the D to be the Sigma EF500 DG.


And that's P-TTL, right? Or are you saying that it has a TTL mode and
it works well on the -D?

Kostas








Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Paul Stenquist

Beautiful. An experiment that succeeded. Congratulations.
On Apr 1, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Bob W wrote:


One can't say much about minimalism...

But that's a very beautiful photo.

--
Cheers,
 Bob


-Original Message-
From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 April 2006 19:15
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Minimalism

Hi!

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

What do you say?

Boris












Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Kenneth Waller

What do you say?


Only that I like it alot.
Is that minimal enough?

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO - Minimalism



Hi!

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

What do you say?

Boris





PESO: Queen For A Day

2006-04-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from 
Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what we 
call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them and 
various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some Greek 
fast food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. Anyway, there 
was a young lady there with her mother. The young lady was wearing a 
wedding veil. She's getting married later today and had gone to the 
city with her mom to have her hair done. They stopped for lunch at the 
Coney. I recorded the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 @ 1/15th, ISO 
400

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716



Re: Queen For A Day

2006-04-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Nice capture Paul, but a little soft in the focus on the face. Looks like 
the focus is somewhat behind her face (the crown looks in focus to me.)


BTW, Mayor Kilpatrick, of Detroit, said recently one of the greatest things 
about Detroit was the ability to get a Coney Dog @ 2 AM.


I think I'll pass.

Kenneth Waller


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO: Queen For A Day


I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from 
Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what we 
call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them and 
various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some Greek fast 
food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. Anyway, there was a 
young lady there with her mother. The young lady was wearing a wedding 
veil. She's getting married later today and had gone to the city with her 
mom to have her hair done. They stopped for lunch at the Coney. I recorded 
the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 @ 1/15th, ISO 400

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716





PAW - Solitary Protester

2006-04-01 Thread frank theriault
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285748

Thanks for looking and commenting!

cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread frank theriault
On 4/1/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

 What do you say?


Beautiful!

Just beautiful.

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - A bug in the field

2006-04-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Thanks to all who took the time to comment - Bob S, Bruce, Jack, William R, 
Hank, David S., Frank, Bob S., Boris, Tom C.,  David B.


FWIW - this was taken with available light - no photons were harmed in its 
production.
Yes that is dew, happily supplied by a cool damp night  getting there 
early.

No healing brush was used on this image.


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: PESO - A bug in the field




On Mar 29, 2006, at 8:24 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:


Check out
http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

Comments solicited

Good/Bad/Indifferent



Gorgeous!

Bob





Re: Queen For A Day

2006-04-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks for looking, Ken. I can handle a coney dog every now and then. 
But Kwami looks like he's a frequent customer.
Blowing up the hi-res tiff, I can see that the eyes and the crown are 
both equally sharp or, if you will, equally soft. At 1/15th, there's 
probably a wee bit of camera shake. Should have opened up a stop 
perhaps, but the moment was quickly passing.

Paul
On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

Nice capture Paul, but a little soft in the focus on the face. Looks 
like the focus is somewhat behind her face (the crown looks in focus 
to me.)


BTW, Mayor Kilpatrick, of Detroit, said recently one of the greatest 
things about Detroit was the ability to get a Coney Dog @ 2 AM.


I think I'll pass.

Kenneth Waller


- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO: Queen For A Day


I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from 
Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what 
we call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them 
and various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some 
Greek fast food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. 
Anyway, there was a young lady there with her mother. The young lady 
was wearing a wedding veil. She's getting married later today and had 
gone to the city with her mom to have her hair done. They stopped for 
lunch at the Coney. I recorded the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 
@ 1/15th, ISO 400

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716






Re: PAW - Solitary Protester

2006-04-01 Thread Paul Stenquist

Interesting shot. Lonely crusade. Was he wearing leather shoes? g
On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:25 PM, frank theriault wrote:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285748

Thanks for looking and commenting!

cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: PAW - Solitary Protester

2006-04-01 Thread Kenneth Waller

Frank,
I looked  the only thing that strikes me is the inclusion of the person on 
the

RH side.  Probably a no crop thing huh?

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PAW - Solitary Protester



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285748

Thanks for looking and commenting!

cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: PESO: Queen For A Day

2006-04-01 Thread frank theriault
On 4/1/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from
 Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what we
 call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them and
 various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some Greek
 fast food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. Anyway, there
 was a young lady there with her mother. The young lady was wearing a
 wedding veil. She's getting married later today and had gone to the
 city with her mom to have her hair done. They stopped for lunch at the
 Coney. I recorded the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 @ 1/15th, ISO
 400
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716

It's not working for me.  For one thing, she looks like a beautiful
young woman, but that's not a particularly flattering photo of her. 
Also, I'm not sure what she's doing with her right arm behind her
head.  Is she winding up to throw something?  It's really hard to
tell, especially in the context of a restaurant.

With all the build up in your description, I was expecting that
something in the photo would be unique to Coneys - a hot dog, a menu
on which we could read the name of the establishment;  in fact I
thought it would be a shot of her eating one (but perhaps it's not
fair to talk of such expectations - I should just comment on the
photo, no?).

I do like the dynamics of the photo - nicely blurred bottom parts, the
tilt.  I also like the booth partitions in the background - it gives
the photo a sense of place.

So, it's a mixed one for me Paul.  Maybe your body of work is
generally so outstanding that you've spoiled me for anything less than
outstanding from you!  g

cheers,
frank




--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Queen For A Day

2006-04-01 Thread Kenneth Waller

Paul Stenquist -
I can handle a Coney dog every now and then. 
But Kwami looks like he's a frequent customer.


I also like them but not @ 2AM in Detroit!

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Queen For A Day


Thanks for looking, Ken. I can handle a coney dog every now and then. 
But Kwami looks like he's a frequent customer.
Blowing up the hi-res tiff, I can see that the eyes and the crown are 
both equally sharp or, if you will, equally soft. At 1/15th, there's 
probably a wee bit of camera shake. Should have opened up a stop 
perhaps, but the moment was quickly passing.

Paul
On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

Nice capture Paul, but a little soft in the focus on the face. Looks 
like the focus is somewhat behind her face (the crown looks in focus 
to me.)


BTW, Mayor Kilpatrick, of Detroit, said recently one of the greatest 
things about Detroit was the ability to get a Coney Dog @ 2 AM.


I think I'll pass.

Kenneth Waller


- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO: Queen For A Day


I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from 
Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what 
we call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them 
and various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some 
Greek fast food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. 
Anyway, there was a young lady there with her mother. The young lady 
was wearing a wedding veil. She's getting married later today and had 
gone to the city with her mom to have her hair done. They stopped for 
lunch at the Coney. I recorded the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 
@ 1/15th, ISO 400

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716








Re: PAW - Solitary Protester

2006-04-01 Thread Kenneth Waller

Er, hmmm should be LH side.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: PAW - Solitary Protester



Frank,
I looked  the only thing that strikes me is the inclusion of the person 
on the

RH side.  Probably a no crop thing huh?

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PAW - Solitary Protester



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285748

Thanks for looking and commenting!

cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson







Re: PAW - Solitary Protester

2006-04-01 Thread frank theriault
On 4/1/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Frank,
 I looked  the only thing that strikes me is the inclusion of the person on
 the
 RH side.  Probably a no crop thing huh?



Nope.  I actually cropped this one (note:  no black borders...).  I
debated leaving that partial person in there, but I actually preferred
it there for some odd reason.  To me it lends a certain dynamic to the
scene.

Thanks for looking and commenting.

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW - Solitary Protester

2006-04-01 Thread frank theriault
On 4/1/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Er, hmmm should be LH side.

I knew whatcha meant.

vbg

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Queen For A Day

2006-04-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks for looking, Frank. Maybe you had to be there :-). Actually, 
she's preening, patting her hair in place before I shoot. The menu is 
partly visible in the foreground, but including more of it seemed to 
disturb the balance of the shot.

Paul
On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:38 PM, frank theriault wrote:


On 4/1/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from
Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what 
we

call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them and
various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some Greek
fast food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. Anyway, there
was a young lady there with her mother. The young lady was wearing a
wedding veil. She's getting married later today and had gone to the
city with her mom to have her hair done. They stopped for lunch at the
Coney. I recorded the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 @ 1/15th, ISO
400
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716


It's not working for me.  For one thing, she looks like a beautiful
young woman, but that's not a particularly flattering photo of her.
Also, I'm not sure what she's doing with her right arm behind her
head.  Is she winding up to throw something?  It's really hard to
tell, especially in the context of a restaurant.

With all the build up in your description, I was expecting that
something in the photo would be unique to Coneys - a hot dog, a menu
on which we could read the name of the establishment;  in fact I
thought it would be a shot of her eating one (but perhaps it's not
fair to talk of such expectations - I should just comment on the
photo, no?).

I do like the dynamics of the photo - nicely blurred bottom parts, the
tilt.  I also like the booth partitions in the background - it gives
the photo a sense of place.

So, it's a mixed one for me Paul.  Maybe your body of work is
generally so outstanding that you've spoiled me for anything less than
outstanding from you!  g

cheers,
frank




--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread John Francis

The DL was aimed at a market segment totally dominated by price.
I'd bet that well over 90% of DL purchasers will never own any
flash other than the pop-up flash on the camera.

On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 01:07:54PM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 Yes, P-TTL.
 
 My point is that, before exploring the nuances of TTL vs.P-TTL, one needs a 
 reliable system.
 The D only gets that with the Sigma DG (P-TTL).
 The DS gets that with any TTL/P-TTL flash I've tried so far, old  new.
 
 That's a big improvement IMO, too quickly thrown away with the DL.
 
 Dario
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 12:34 PM
 Subject: Re: DL TTL flash madness
 
 
 On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
 At the end of the day, I'm afraid that the only TTL flash working well on 
 the D to be the Sigma EF500 DG.
 
 And that's P-TTL, right? Or are you saying that it has a TTL mode and it 
 works well on the -D?
 
 Kostas
 



PESO: Puppy Luv

2006-04-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
One more from today's trip into town. Again, the FA 40/1.4. This time 
at an ap and shutter speed that show off the lens:  f6.7 @ 1/180th. 
This was going to be BW, but the skin tones, the dog's fur, and the 
orange sweater changed my mind. That's one think I like about digital: 
no commitment on the BW vs. color decision.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285825



Re: DL TTL flash madness

2006-04-01 Thread John Francis

I think you may be onto something here.  I don't do a lot of flash
photography, and when I am using flash it's still my old AF500FTZ.
But I always used to wonder about these complaints; I've never
considered the combination to be unreliable.

But now, on reading your post, I'm reminded that I did once run into
a problem with the flash behaving somewhat erratically.  All I did
then, though, was to take the flash off, clean the contacts, and
put it back on the camera (making sure it was clamped on tightly).
That was it - just one occasion.  But since then I am very careful
to make sure the flash is well seated.


On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 08:47:07AM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 The AF400T works great on the D. i think the reason Dario and others 
 have experienced so many failures and erratic behavior patterns with 
 certain flashes on the D is that the connectors on the D hotshoe 
 sometimes have trouble making contact. That would explain the erratic 
 results with some flash units. Mounting is critical. The AF 400T 
 doesn't mount on the shoe of course. It uses a cable that attaches to 
 the shoe. I think the weight of some flashes on the shoe causes them to 
 rock back and forth a bit, interrupting contact. Even the Sigma has to 
 be mounted carefully, and the wheel has to be tightened aggressively.
 Paul
 On Apr 1, 2006, at 5:34 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
 
 On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 
 At the end of the day, I'm afraid that the only TTL flash working 
 well on the D to be the Sigma EF500 DG.
 
 And that's P-TTL, right? Or are you saying that it has a TTL mode and 
 it works well on the -D?
 
 Kostas
 



Re: PESO - A bug in the field

2006-04-01 Thread Bob Shell


On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

Thanks to all who took the time to comment - Bob S, Bruce, Jack,  
William R, Hank, David S., Frank, Bob S., Boris, Tom C.,  David B.


Which Bob S is which? ;-)



FWIW - this was taken with available light - no photons were harmed  
in its production.
Yes that is dew, happily supplied by a cool damp night  getting  
there early.

No healing brush was used on this image.


Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures.  I've photographed them  
many times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and  
seen a few covered in dew first thing in the morning.  But I never  
saw one as striking as the one you found and photographed so well.   
That photo would sell as a stock image, for sure.


Bob



Re: Remarkable lens for sale

2006-04-01 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

That's an exceptional lens.
But ... for anyone interested ... I've found an A200/2.8.
Anyone ???
Let me know soon!

Collin

At 03:45 PM 4/1/2006, you wrote:

Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:13:40 -0700
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Remarkable lens for sale
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Respecting that someone on the list might want it I won't
divulge the location. Somewhere in the world, right now, on
eBay, there is a 300 mm. F1.4 lens for sale in Pentax mount.

At least that is what the listing says.

Joe



He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose
-- Jim Elliott



Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

2006-04-01 Thread John Francis

I think more peoplw would consider the Golden Gate Bridge to be
the iconic structure for San Francisco.  While I'm sure there are
many people who can remember the City by the Bay without the bridge,
it's been around a little longer that the TransAmerica building.

On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 11:48:40PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 It's easy to imagine San Francisco without the Pyramid. which is
 actually called the Transamerica Tower.  It's a recent addition to the city
 - built around 1970-1972 - which makes it but 34 years old.  Like the
 Eiffel Tower, it met with disdain and opposition when it was planned and
 built.  To this day many long-time San Franciscans consider it an
 abomination.
 
 
 Shel
 
 
 
 It's hard to imagine Paris w/o it though. Like London w/o Big Ben,  
 Seattle w/o the Space Needle, SF w/o the Pyramid, St. Louis w/o the 
 arch, NYC w/o the Empire State Building. 
 
 



Re: What would be a good name for the new body?

2006-04-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Mea Culpa!*

No mistake on your part, a calculation and rounding error mistake:

APS film formats are

H=9:16 - 17x30
C=2:3 - 17x25.5
P=1:3 - 10x30

It's all on the Kodak page I listed. I transcribed the numbers too  
quickly, wrote the wrong proportion for P format, calculated and  
didn't proof-read.


So called APS-C class sensors are 16x24 mm in the Nikon, Pentax,  
Konica Minolta bodies and 15x22 mm in the Canon bodies. They're close  
to APS-C format but are not the same.


Godfrey

* note use of Latin

On Apr 1, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


Godfrey,
In applying 4th grade arithmetic and, very likely, my complete
misunderstanding of the P-type proportions, I'm sore confused.
9:16=0.56:l.0 or 17x30.
I'd appreciate not being to embarrassed by your answer. ;-/

Jack

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Advanced Photo System film specifications
http://www.kodak.com/cluster/global/en/consumer/APS/redBook/
aboutSystem.shtml

Rounding to half-mm accuracy:
Full frame H format is 17mm x 30mm and is always recorded on the
film.
C-type format is 2:3 proportions - 17mm x 25.5mm
P-type format is 9:16 proportion - 9.5mm x 30mm

Godfrey

On Apr 1, 2006, at 6:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


G'morning ...

What is it then?  It seems that there are various APS formats.
What are
they, and what are the specs?

Shel




[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi



Nikon has registered DX as a trademark for their
APS-C-sized series of lenses and digital cameras.
In fact, they generally refer to reduced-frame digital
as DX format rather than APS-C.


That shows remarkable sensibility, given that the sensor is
not APS-C  format..  :-)









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Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

2006-04-01 Thread keith_w

John Francis wrote:


I think more peoplw would consider the Golden Gate Bridge to be
the iconic structure for San Francisco.  While I'm sure there are
many people who can remember the City by the Bay without the bridge,
it's been around a little longer that the TransAmerica building.




On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 11:48:40PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


It's easy to imagine San Francisco without the Pyramid. which is
actually called the Transamerica Tower.  It's a recent addition to the city
- built around 1970-1972 - which makes it but 34 years old.  Like the
Eiffel Tower, it met with disdain and opposition when it was planned and
built.  To this day many long-time San Franciscans consider it an
abomination.


Shel



It's hard to imagine Paris w/o it though. Like London w/o Big Ben,  
Seattle w/o the Space Needle, SF w/o the Pyramid, St. Louis w/o the 
arch, NYC w/o the Empire State Building. 


Maybe Coit tower?
Still, that's more recognized by those who know a little of S.F.
With the G.G. Bridge, it's instant recognition...

keith whaley



Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread mike wilson

Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

What do you say?

Boris


Good.

8-)



Re: PESO - A bug in the field

2006-04-01 Thread Kenneth Waller

Bob -
I mean Bob S, vbg

Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures.  I've photographed them  many 
times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and  seen a few 
covered in dew first thing in the morning.


I had quite a bit of time in a small field of sleeping Darners. As the sun 
rose they gradually woke up and became moving targets - not good. I chose 
this one because it was the most accessible without disturbing others  had 
the background I was seeking.

IIRC I was shooting low into the sun, which accounts for the added sparkle.

BTW this was one of the last shots of this guy before he woke.

This was my second attempt to capture these guys, never had the excellent 
conditions like this before.


Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: PESO - A bug in the field




On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

Thanks to all who took the time to comment - Bob S, Bruce, Jack,  William 
R, Hank, David S., Frank, Bob S., Boris, Tom C.,  David B.


Which Bob S is which? ;-)



FWIW - this was taken with available light - no photons were harmed  in 
its production.
Yes that is dew, happily supplied by a cool damp night  getting  there 
early.

No healing brush was used on this image.


Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures.  I've photographed them  many 
times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and  seen a few 
covered in dew first thing in the morning.  But I never  saw one as 
striking as the one you found and photographed so well.   That photo would 
sell as a stock image, for sure.


Bob





RE: PESO: Puppy Luv

2006-04-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
Pretty good. Both are cute. Relaxed nice pose, the colours, nice texture in
the bench, the woman's closed eyes makes me sense her affection for the dog,
the hand in her lap makes a nice counterpoint (I'm sure if that’s the best
word) in the composition. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 1. april 2006 22:52
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Puppy Luv
 
 One more from today's trip into town. Again, the FA 40/1.4. This time
 at an ap and shutter speed that show off the lens:  f6.7 @ 1/180th.
 This was going to be BW, but the skin tones, the dog's fur, and the
 orange sweater changed my mind. That's one think I like about digital:
 no commitment on the BW vs. color decision.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285825
 






Re: Queen For A Day

2006-04-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:

At 1/15th, there's probably a 
wee bit of camera shake. Should have opened up a stop perhaps, but the moment 
was quickly passing.


That was the point I was wanting to make: at 1/15 I don't even bother 
to press the shutter with a 50 *on 135 film*.


Hat off to you, Steady...

Kostas (1/45, 1/30 on a very good day...)



Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

2006-04-01 Thread John Forbes

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 22:05:38 +0100, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I think more peoplw would consider the Golden Gate Bridge to be
the iconic structure for San Francisco.  While I'm sure there are
many people who can remember the City by the Bay without the bridge,
it's been around a little longer that the TransAmerica building.


I know I'm ignorant, but at least I'm not alone.  :-)  I've never heard of  
the Pyramid (except for the one at the Louvre).  On the other hand, the  
Golden Gate Bridge is almost as well known as the Empire State Building,  
the Statue of Liberty, and the Grand Canyon. And much more so than the  
Alamo, which I recall as an uninspiring little shack of only local  
interest.


I think the Pyramid has some catching up to do.  The Eiffel Tower it is  
not.


John




On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 11:48:40PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

It's easy to imagine San Francisco without the Pyramid. which is
actually called the Transamerica Tower.  It's a recent addition to the  
city

- built around 1970-1972 - which makes it but 34 years old.  Like the
Eiffel Tower, it met with disdain and opposition when it was planned and
built.  To this day many long-time San Franciscans consider it an
abomination.


Shel



It's hard to imagine Paris w/o it though. Like London w/o Big Ben,
Seattle w/o the Space Needle, SF w/o the Pyramid, St. Louis w/o the
arch, NYC w/o the Empire State Building.












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Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread John Forbes

Super picture.

John

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:12:59 +0100, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



What do you say?


Only that I like it alot.
Is that minimal enough?

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - Minimalism



Hi!
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858
 What do you say?
 Boris











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Re: PESO: Puppy Luv

2006-04-01 Thread John Forbes
On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:52:07 +0100, Paul Stenquist  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


One more from today's trip into town. Again, the FA 40/1.4. This time at  
an ap and shutter speed that show off the lens:  f6.7 @ 1/180th. This  
was going to be BW, but the skin tones, the dog's fur, and the orange  
sweater changed my mind. That's one think I like about digital: no  
commitment on the BW vs. color decision.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285825




FA 40/1.4?  Where do you people find all this exotic glass?

John


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Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris,
You are getting too damned good!
Stop showing us these great photos.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 4/1/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

 What do you say?

 Boris





Re: PESO - Minimalism

2006-04-01 Thread John Coyle

Very striking image Boris - I like it.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 4:14 AM
Subject: PESO - Minimalism



Hi!

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12858

What do you say?

Boris





Re: PESO - A bug in the field

2006-04-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks for the clarification Ken.  I looked at that image 4 times
before commenting.  It is compelling in many ways.

It took me a while to see it as dew on the dragonfly.
The dew makes it unique, but adds some visual distraction.
I wish the dew was a bit more 'fine grained' (smaller drops?).

But this is truely a rare shot - so I can't ask for more.
Congrats Ken, your stuff makes me envious.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 4/1/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bob -
 I mean Bob S, vbg

  Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures.  I've photographed them  many
  times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and  seen a few
  covered in dew first thing in the morning.

 I had quite a bit of time in a small field of sleeping Darners. As the sun
 rose they gradually woke up and became moving targets - not good. I chose
 this one because it was the most accessible without disturbing others  had
 the background I was seeking.
 IIRC I was shooting low into the sun, which accounts for the added sparkle.

 BTW this was one of the last shots of this guy before he woke.

 This was my second attempt to capture these guys, never had the excellent
 conditions like this before.

 Kenneth Waller

 - Original Message -
 From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO - A bug in the field


 
  On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
 
  Thanks to all who took the time to comment - Bob S, Bruce, Jack,  William
  R, Hank, David S., Frank, Bob S., Boris, Tom C.,  David B.
 
  Which Bob S is which? ;-)
 
 
  FWIW - this was taken with available light - no photons were harmed  in
  its production.
  Yes that is dew, happily supplied by a cool damp night  getting  there
  early.
  No healing brush was used on this image.
 
  Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures.  I've photographed them  many
  times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and  seen a few
  covered in dew first thing in the morning.  But I never  saw one as
  striking as the one you found and photographed so well.   That photo would
  sell as a stock image, for sure.
 
  Bob
 





Re: OT - Eiffel Tower

2006-04-01 Thread Tom C
Hey it's the first thing I thought of. Sure the GG Bridge is more iconic.  
In my mind's eye I was envisioning city skylines. :-)


Tom C.





From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT - Eiffel Tower
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:33:35 +0100

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 22:05:38 +0100, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I think more peoplw would consider the Golden Gate Bridge to be
the iconic structure for San Francisco.  While I'm sure there are
many people who can remember the City by the Bay without the bridge,
it's been around a little longer that the TransAmerica building.


I know I'm ignorant, but at least I'm not alone.  :-)  I've never heard of  
the Pyramid (except for the one at the Louvre).  On the other hand, the  
Golden Gate Bridge is almost as well known as the Empire State Building,  
the Statue of Liberty, and the Grand Canyon. And much more so than the  
Alamo, which I recall as an uninspiring little shack of only local  
interest.


I think the Pyramid has some catching up to do.  The Eiffel Tower it is  
not.


John




On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 11:48:40PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

It's easy to imagine San Francisco without the Pyramid. which is
actually called the Transamerica Tower.  It's a recent addition to the  
city

- built around 1970-1972 - which makes it but 34 years old.  Like the
Eiffel Tower, it met with disdain and opposition when it was planned and
built.  To this day many long-time San Franciscans consider it an
abomination.


Shel



It's hard to imagine Paris w/o it though. Like London w/o Big Ben,
Seattle w/o the Space Needle, SF w/o the Pyramid, St. Louis w/o the
arch, NYC w/o the Empire State Building.












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