Re: PESO - Puffin
Superb. John On Fri, 05 May 2006 04:04:28 +0100, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's really nice. Jostein wrote: Hi gang, Here's one from last week-end's foray in feathers: http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/lunde-1.html Cheers, Jostein -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: OT - Working for a living
On Fri, 05 May 2006 00:42:00 +0200, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My processing costs are going to double if I include scanning at processing time. The lab technician stated that at their highest resolution the scans should be good for at least an 8x10 print with a decent photograph. I think he said they would be scanned at 2456*3636, or something close to that. I didn't write it down. My other current option is to scan them myself on a flatbed (8400F), which is time consuming and, for me, frustrating. 2400x3600 doesn't sound too bad (almost 9Mpix, so you beat the *ist's ;-), the 1 hour scans I was referring to are 800x600... Maybe it's wise to evaluate the quality of the scans beforehand? -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
Thanks for that. Apparently, laughing in the morning is good for the constitution. I'm set up for the weekend. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/05/05 Fri AM 12:28:14 GMT To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout For your enjoyment. I'm just the messenger.. William Robb - Original Message - From: Brian Schneider Subject: Analog versus Digital Shootout http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Semi OT... DVD rewriter
Hi, My ancient (one of the first x2 rewriters in the country!!!) CDRW drive seems to be expiring. Just in time for me to fill my HDD with PEF files. I'm looking at a Philips PBDV1660G/00 DVD+-RW. Anyone got any nasty experiences, humerous stories, prices cheaper than £29.36? Other recommendations? mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT - Working for a living
William Robb wrote: A small but intersting request was made to me. A couple of years ago, a friend of ours looked after my dogs for a couple of days when we were doing some particularly noisy and strange people laden work on the house. As payment, I am shooting his wedding this August. I should have done the family portraits he wanted done when I had the chance. I hope the new camera is out by then. Which new camera? I know I missed the key words some messages back, but... I hate weddings. But I digress. Anyway, the couple asked me specifically if I would be shooting film or digital. I thold them I could shoot either, or both to a limited extent. They told me that they preferred digital. William Robb keith whaley
Re: Semi OT... DVD rewriter
On 5/5/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My ancient (one of the first x2 rewriters in the country!!!) CDRW drive seems to be expiring. Just in time for me to fill my HDD with PEF files. I'm looking at a Philips PBDV1660G/00 DVD+-RW. Anyone got any nasty experiences, humerous stories, prices cheaper than £29.36? Other recommendations? mike You should take a look at www.cdfreaks.com The review is here: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/267 Overall, it seems a good drive. Hmm... a week ago, I was in a computer store, wanting to buy a LG 4167B. Instead, I choosed a Plextor - big mistake. That Plextor - the PX750A - is actually a very expensive Teac. -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
On Thu, 4 May 2006, William Robb wrote: For your enjoyment. I'm just the messenger.. Thanks William. William Robb - Original Message - From: Brian Schneider Subject: Analog versus Digital Shootout http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm Out of curiosity (and having read the parts of the thread that have landed on my mailbox so far), is slide film designed to be scanned/printed? Is this why one would shoot slide? I don't, so I am only asking. Kostas
Re: OT - Working for a living
Missed the original, so quoting Keith quoting William, IYSWIM :-) On Fri, 5 May 2006, keith_w wrote: William Robb wrote: Anyway, the couple asked me specifically if I would be shooting film or digital. I thold them I could shoot either, or both to a limited extent. They told me that they preferred digital. Did you ask why? Kostas
enablement
If anyone is walking by the north end of George St in Sydney, I suggest you drop into the Paxtons there. They are selling off their 2nd stock at below cost. Last night, on the way to a company dinner, I had some time to kill. Managed to pick up a Tamron 2x 7-element AF teleconverter for $48 and a Seimar (???) 200mm/3.5 in nice condition for $28. Seems ebay has made it unprofitable for them to have a 2nd shelf. Also a nice package from KEH arrived this week - an super-tak 85/1.9 m42, an LN 6x7 120mm soft focus, and a LN Sigma 8mm AF fisheye. KEH seem to be using FedEx now instead of UPS. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: enablement
On May 5, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Also a nice package from KEH arrived this week - an super-tak 85/1.9 m42, an LN 6x7 120mm soft focus, and a LN Sigma 8mm AF fisheye. I'm curious... what use is AF in an 8mm fisheye? - Dave
Re: Analog versus Digital Shootout
On May 5, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: Out of curiosity (and having read the parts of the thread that have landed on my mailbox so far), is slide film designed to be scanned/ printed? AFAIK the newest films were formulated to scan better than the older ones. I'm going through my archives at the moment and I'm currently doing a mix of E100SW, Velvia and Provia 100F films that were shot about 5 years ago. At the start I was having all sorts of problems, particularly in the highlights. Now that I've improved my technique, I'm finding that they all scan pretty well (I'm still glad that I didn't shoot much Velvia). Is this why one would shoot slide? Could be one reason, but to be honest I'd rather shoot digital if I wanted a digital file. Scanning is pretty tedious work. Having said that, I'd rather scan slides than negs as the slide itself makes a good reference. The reason I originally switched to slides was because the small lab I used closed down. When I could no longer obtain good prints I changed over to slide film so I'd get to see what I actually shot, not what some high-volume machine on auto-exposure thinks I shot. - Dave
Re: OT - Working for a living
On May 5, 2006, at 2:41 PM, William Robb wrote: I hate weddings. Oh, I thought you'd left Walmart to go into weddings full-time. :) - Dave
Re: Paw power zoom ir-Colour Version
Oh no, those bloody smiley ads now have sound. Nice pic BTW. Not sure which version I prefer :) - Dave On May 5, 2006, at 11:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken asked to see the colour version. Best i can do after 1/2 hour of playing. Dave B http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/? action=viewcurrent=IMGP4690-1.jpg
Re: Semi OT... DVD rewriter
Hmm... a week ago, I was in a computer store, wanting to buy a LG 4167B. Instead, I choosed a Plextor - big mistake. That Plextor - the PX750A - is actually a very expensive Teac. Nothing wrong with Teac they made some of the best CD writers of all time, you're paying the extra for the Plextor firmware/software bundle etc. they're a great product IMHO. John John Whittingham Technician you can't be optimistic with a misty optic The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message.
Re: Semi OT... DVD rewriter
Digital Promotions in the UK is a good source for drives and media, very keenly priced as well: http://www.digitalpromo.co.uk I can thoroughly recommend Pioneer DVD writers but I beleive Plextor are a little faster. John John Whittingham Technician you can't be optimistic with a misty optic -- Original Message --- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Fri, 5 May 2006 7:55:31 + Subject: Semi OT... DVD rewriter Hi, My ancient (one of the first x2 rewriters in the country!!!) CDRW drive seems to be expiring. Just in time for me to fill my HDD with PEF files. I'm looking at a Philips PBDV1660G/00 DVD+-RW. Anyone got any nasty experiences, humerous stories, prices cheaper than £29.36? Other recommendations? mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information --- End of Original Message --- The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message.
Re: Semi OT... DVD rewriter
On 5/5/06, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... a week ago, I was in a computer store, wanting to buy a LG 4167B. Instead, I choosed a Plextor - big mistake. That Plextor - the PX750A - is actually a very expensive Teac. Nothing wrong with Teac they made some of the best CD writers of all time, you're paying the extra for the Plextor firmware/software bundle etc. they're a great product IMHO. John Well, this drive don't support any of the 'advanced' Plextor functions (like media quality scan). It can't be made region-free. The write quality is not the best. But it's not that bad either, even if there are cheaper and better drives available. -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu
Re: Semi OT... DVD rewriter
Well, this drive don't support any of the 'advanced' Plextor functions (like media quality scan). It can't be made region-free. The write quality is not the best. But it's not that bad either, even if there are cheaper and better drives available. What model would the drive be? Many drives can be made region free with RPC-1 firmware if you know where to look. I still firmly beleive that the best value for money is Pioneer at £27.50 for the Pioneer 111D: http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/product_detail.jsp? product_id=12086taxonomy_id=43-92 John John Whittingham Technician you can't be optimistic with a misty optic -- Original Message --- From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Fri, 5 May 2006 13:15:16 +0300 Subject: Re: Semi OT... DVD rewriter On 5/5/06, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... a week ago, I was in a computer store, wanting to buy a LG 4167B. Instead, I choosed a Plextor - big mistake. That Plextor - the PX750A - is actually a very expensive Teac. Nothing wrong with Teac they made some of the best CD writers of all time, you're paying the extra for the Plextor firmware/software bundle etc. they're a great product IMHO. John Well, this drive don't support any of the 'advanced' Plextor functions (like media quality scan). It can't be made region-free. The write quality is not the best. But it's not that bad either, even if there are cheaper and better drives available. -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu --- End of Original Message --- The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message.
Re: Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/05/05 Fri AM 08:26:09 GMT To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout On Thu, 4 May 2006, William Robb wrote: For your enjoyment. I'm just the messenger.. Thanks William. William Robb - Original Message - From: Brian Schneider Subject: Analog versus Digital Shootout http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm Out of curiosity (and having read the parts of the thread that have landed on my mailbox so far), is slide film designed to be scanned/printed? Is this why one would shoot slide? I don't, so I am only asking. I suspect Velvia was chosen for its apparent high resolution. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: enablement
David Mann wrote: On May 5, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Also a nice package from KEH arrived this week - an super-tak 85/1.9 m42, an LN 6x7 120mm soft focus, and a LN Sigma 8mm AF fisheye. I'm curious... what use is AF in an 8mm fisheye? - Dave 1. 2nd hand price was cheaper than a new manual focus Peleng 2. Because everything looks in focus with an 8mm, it ain't necessarily so when you enlarge it. 3. It's a toy, and it's fun. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: Analog versus Digital Shootout
On May 5, 2006, at 1:00 AM, graywolf wrote: Intent. I think you're right -- note also that he has thrown away two thirds of the data from the drum scan. I'm going to do that with the scan I put up for a comparison. http://aaronreynolds.ca/albums/PDML/back_stairs_RVP_resized_chu.jpg Doesn't look anything like the crap they put up. I don't know why one would want to drop to 240 dpi at print size before comparing the prints, unless one wanted the print with more data to look worse. -Aaronx
Re: PESO - Puffin
Ken, Christian, P. J., John, Thanks for looking and the kind words. :-) Never got my own post back either, but at least it made it to the archives. Jostein Quoting Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Puffin Hi gang, Here's one from last week-end's foray in feathers: http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/lunde-1.html Hey Jostein, i didn't see the original post... Awesome portrait. Puffins are cool birds. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
PESO - Gannet
Another one from our foray in feathers, this time starring the ancient SMCP-500/4.5 and Tim's 1.7 AF converter. http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/gannet.html The image is cropped to about 50% of the original. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: PESO - Gannet
Very nice. Good job catching him in flight. How sharp is it at 100%? Paul On May 5, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Jostein wrote: Another one from our foray in feathers, this time starring the ancient SMCP-500/4.5 and Tim's 1.7 AF converter. http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/gannet.html The image is cropped to about 50% of the original. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Paw power zoom ir-Colour Version
I thought not. Unfortunately there was no greenish foliage to get any of that IR look. All i didi was take away the redish look the R72 filter gave the picture, using channel mixer i think. However the save to web version you are seeing, does not look anything like the version i was working on in PSCS2,but i sent it anyway.:-) Dave Thanks Dave. It's not at all what I expected. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Paw power zoom ir-Colour Version Ken asked to see the colour version. Best i can do after 1/2 hour of playing. Dave B http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=IMGP4690-1.jpg
Re: Analog versus Digital Shootout
I guess that proves that Canon is far superior... Norm From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] For your enjoyment. I'm just the messenger.. William Robb - Original Message - From: Brian Schneider Subject: Analog versus Digital Shootout http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
I don't think any film was designed to be scanned. Film came out long before there were scanners, and well before scanning become common place or popular. Shel [Original Message] From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Out of curiosity (and having read the parts of the thread that have landed on my mailbox so far), is slide film designed to be scanned/printed? Is this why one would shoot slide?
Re: enablement
For macro work LOL Shel [Original Message] From: David Mann I'm curious... what use is AF in an 8mm fisheye?
Done!
Done! As of now I am officially done with school. After two years (4 semesters) and a literally uncountable numbers of hours I have finished graduate school. (At least as far as the masters degree is concerned, but let's not follow that line of thought any further just now...) I feel as if I'm emerging from a long tunnel or surfacing after swimming 10 laps of a pool underwater and finally being able to catch my breath. The last couple of months were particularly intense, since I had two major projects to complete. Yesterday I was able to do my first real photography since February. It was for a job but it still felt great. Since the beginning of the semester I've been following the list sporadically and posting even more sporadically and even less coherently than usual (and yes, this includes writing a private email to Aaron Reynolds and then posting it to the entire damn list: My all-time top PDML boner). On the plus side, I won a couple of awards at the University that might look good on my C.V. - I took first prize in the photography contest and my digital video project The Last Tree on Easter Island won first place in the documentary category at the university film festival. (For those coming to GFM I'll have a new 15-minute video of my Grandfather Mountain photography to show there. Soundtrack music from it is on line at http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3 if you're interested - it's a 4 meg download.) Now that school's done I can... well, Lisa has a whole list of things, actually. Redecorate the spare bedroom, clean my office for the first time in six months, and many others (and I can possibly post to the PDML without making any more major blunders and making a fool of myself - except for the not making a fool of myself part). Oh yes, and I have to get ready for GFM as well. Fortunately, one of my school projects is going to serve as the basis for my GFM presentation, so that shouldn't be too bad. Hope to have it done this weekend so I can just make some prints to bring. Oh, yes - I also have to look for a job, don't I? Got a line on a possible teaching position at a local arts college. We'll see how that pans out. For now, I'm glad just to be re-joining society! (And the PDML - just barely - falls into the category of society g)
ist D flash question
What is the difference between the automatic flash mode on the ist D and the flash on mode? The former puts the letter A next to the lightning bolt on the top LCD, the latter just places the lightning bolt there. I can't tell any difference in practice, and the manual says nothing useful. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: ist D flash question
On May 5, 2006, at 6:24 AM, Rick Womer wrote: What is the difference between the automatic flash mode on the ist D and the flash on mode? The former puts the letter A next to the lightning bolt on the top LCD, the latter just places the lightning bolt there. I can't tell any difference in practice, and the manual says nothing useful. On the *ist DS, Automatic flash means that in the program pre-set modes the camera will automatically open and enable the flash unit when exposure readings determine that a suitably fast shutter speed is not reachable to minimize camera shake. This only operates in the Auto Picture or other preset modes, not in P, Tv, Av, M or B modes. In manual flash mode, the flash is enabled strictly manually even in the program pre-set modes ... you have to physically press the button to open it. It's reasonable to think that the D model is similar in operation, but I don't have a D instruction manual handy to confirm it right now. Godfrey
Re: PESO - Puffin
Good thing the link was left in on replies -- Count me again as one who never got the original post. Lovely head shot, Jostein... I'd have cropped a bit on top and on the right had it been mine, but that's just me. Re vertigo: I only have to _think_ heights and I get woozy. Best, ann Jostein wrote: Ken, Christian, P. J., John, Thanks for looking and the kind words. :-) Never got my own post back either, but at least it made it to the archives. Jostein Quoting Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Puffin Hi gang, Here's one from last week-end's foray in feathers: http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/lunde-1.html Hey Jostein, i didn't see the original post... Awesome portrait. Puffins are cool birds. Christian http://photography.skofteland.net This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Done!
Hi! As of now I am officially done with school. After two years (4 semesters) and a literally uncountable numbers of hours I have finished graduate school. (At least as far as the masters degree is concerned, but let's not follow that line of thought any further just now...) I feel as if I'm emerging from a long tunnel or surfacing after swimming 10 laps of a pool underwater and finally being able to catch my breath. *The rest of the rant snipped* ;-) Congratulations, Mark! Getting a degree is always great achievement and a milestone. This year it's going to be 10 years since I got mine. I still think that those years that I spent studying were absolutely the best of my life... Consider it a friendly warning ;-). Well, do you have your diploma now? Care to elaborate on its topic? Boris
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 4 May 2006, William Robb wrote: For your enjoyment. I'm just the messenger.. Thanks William. William Robb - Original Message - From: Brian Schneider Subject: Analog versus Digital Shootout http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm Slide film is designed to be neither scanned nor printed. Slide film is designed to be projected... Out of curiosity (and having read the parts of the thread that have landed on my mailbox so far), is slide film designed to be scanned/printed? Is this why one would shoot slide? I don't, so I am only asking. Kostas -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
Yes. Slides just weren't for slide shows. Several reasons I prefer slide film over negatives: 1. Greater saturation 2. First generation image 3. Virtually eliminates the photofinisher mis/interpreting contrast, color, etc. It essentially showed me what I shot, not a rendition. 4. Transparency film *generally* has better grain characteristics/resolving power than negatives. 5. Looking at an image that is transmitted light feels like being there, compared to viewing a relected image on paper. 6. Wonderful experience holding up the little jewels. 7. Before digital, most magazines and nature photographers preferred transparency film, for some of the same reasons. 8. Pushability. Tom C. Out of curiosity (and having read the parts of the thread that have landed on my mailbox so far), is slide film designed to be scanned/printed? Is this why one would shoot slide? I don't, so I am only asking. Kostas
Re: OT - Working for a living
On May 4, 2006, at 10:26 PM, William Robb wrote: Truly it is sad, but these days shooting for money involves digital cameras. Unless it's shooting for a lot of money! -Aaron
RE: PESO - bird through a mosquito net
Hi Igor the background rendering is much nicer here. Still not very good but okay for a non Pentax lens ;-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Igor Roshchin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 6:23 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - bird through a mosquito net Kenneth, All images were taken between 3:14 and 3:15pm local time. It is possible that what you think is being an effect of the harsh light comes from the fact that I've choosen strong contrast in the curve tab in the ACR. Here is an example when I choose it to be linear. http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/bird/IMGP3150-lin.jpg.html (only the first image). I am not sure which one is better. I think I like the higher contrast picture a bit more. Igor Thu, 04 May 2006 08:03:43 -0700 Kenneth Waller wrote: What these images cry out for is a more subtle light. From the looks of the shadow on the ground it must have been around noon. I know you have to take what you get but as nice as your captures are the light needs to be less harsh. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin Subject: PESO - bird through a mosquito net Hi All! Being in Boston, MA last weekend, I observed this guest enjoying a shower under the sprinklers. I took a few shots through the mosquito net, but when I tried to open the screen door the visitor rushed away. Having looked at Mark Cassino's pages, I think this bird is called American Robin. My pictures are nowhere close to Mark's, but I was surprised (even though I know the physical explanation why) - that I was able to get this quality of images. (You can even see small water droplets, especially on the first photo.) For curious about technical details, the images were taken with ISO 800 and Tamron 75-300 /4-5.6 at 300 mm. The exposure information is posted under each image. http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/bird/ Igor
Re: PESO - Gannet
Jostein wrote: Another one from our foray in feathers, this time starring the ancient SMCP-500/4.5 and Tim's 1.7 AF converter. http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/gannet.html The image is cropped to about 50% of the original. An interesting perspective. nice shot. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
1. The very best reason to shoot slides is how great they look projected. 2. The next reason is that you can easily evaluate the first generation image by just looking at it on a light table with a loupe, it takes a great deal of skill and knowledge to evaluate negatives that way. 3. In the old days magazines wanted slides because that is what their photo-mechanical department was set up to handle. 4. You can pretend you are a pro. Most of the other justifications are just that, justifications. And, no, slide film is not really intended to be scanned or printed. It does relatively poorly at both. Sadly, I expect slide film to soon disappear entirely. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 4 May 2006, William Robb wrote: For your enjoyment. I'm just the messenger.. Thanks William. William Robb - Original Message - From: Brian Schneider Subject: Analog versus Digital Shootout http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm Out of curiosity (and having read the parts of the thread that have landed on my mailbox so far), is slide film designed to be scanned/printed? Is this why one would shoot slide? I don't, so I am only asking. Kostas
Re: OT - Working for a living
;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Aaron Reynolds On May 4, 2006, at 10:26 PM, William Robb wrote: Truly it is sad, but these days shooting for money involves digital cameras. Unless it's shooting for a lot of money!
RE: enablement
Hi Derby I soon will have some test close-up shots of flowers made with the Tamron SP 2.8 70-150mm soft focus portrait lens to show I should have the film back from the lab at the weekend ;-) I'm very interested to see soft photos from your newest enablement. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Derby Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:35 AM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: enablement If anyone is walking by the north end of George St in Sydney, I suggest you drop into the Paxtons there. They are selling off their 2nd stock at below cost. Last night, on the way to a company dinner, I had some time to kill. Managed to pick up a Tamron 2x 7-element AF teleconverter for $48 and a Seimar (???) 200mm/3.5 in nice condition for $28. Seems ebay has made it unprofitable for them to have a 2nd shelf. Also a nice package from KEH arrived this week - an super-tak 85/1.9 m42, an LN 6x7 120mm soft focus, and a LN Sigma 8mm AF fisheye. KEH seem to be using FedEx now instead of UPS. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
RE: Analog versus Digital Shootout
Hi David what exactly is different now in your scanning technique? Since I have to scan a lot . I love to learn ;-) greetings Markus AFAIK the newest films were formulated to scan better than the older ones. I'm going through my archives at the moment and I'm currently doing a mix of E100SW, Velvia and Provia 100F films that were shot about 5 years ago. At the start I was having all sorts of problems, particularly in the highlights. Now that I've improved my technique, I'm finding that they all scan pretty well (I'm still glad that I didn't shoot much Velvia). - Dave
Re: Semi OT... DVD rewriter
If the prices on DVD burners keeps going down, soon they will be paying you to carry them out of the store grin. I kind of think that there are only 2-3 companies actually manufacturing them anymore, and all the rest are merely relabeled, so buy what ever is cheapest. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: On 5/5/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My ancient (one of the first x2 rewriters in the country!!!) CDRW drive seems to be expiring. Just in time for me to fill my HDD with PEF files. I'm looking at a Philips PBDV1660G/00 DVD+-RW. Anyone got any nasty experiences, humerous stories, prices cheaper than £29.36? Other recommendations?
Carrying stuff in the forest
As long as the path is reasonably smooth one can use wheels. Or even one wheel: http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0521.jpg http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0503.jpg http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0572.jpg The load of logs was ejected and the gear was loaded in its place. And, after moving all this stuff half a kilometre, the result was the picture of the _Anemone __nemorosa_. Quite rare here, but abundant in some places. By the way, the small stand weighs about 18kg; the tripod 5.5kg. The camera bag with lenses is lightweight at about 4kg. Don -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616
Re: OT - Working for a living
- Original Message - From: keith_w Subject: Re: OT - Working for a living I hope the new camera is out by then. Which new camera? Rumour has it that a 10mp camera is in the works. William Robb
Re: OT - Working for a living
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: OT - Working for a living . They told me that they preferred digital. Did you ask why? Nope. William Robb
Re: Done!
Well done, Mark! Rick --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done! As of now I am officially done with school. After two years (4 semesters) and a literally uncountable numbers of hours I have finished graduate school. (At least as far as the masters degree is concerned, but let's not follow that line of thought any further just now...) I feel as if I'm emerging from a long tunnel or surfacing after swimming 10 laps of a pool underwater and finally being able to catch my breath. The last couple of months were particularly intense, since I had two major projects to complete. Yesterday I was able to do my first real photography since February. It was for a job but it still felt great. Since the beginning of the semester I've been following the list sporadically and posting even more sporadically and even less coherently than usual (and yes, this includes writing a private email to Aaron Reynolds and then posting it to the entire damn list: My all-time top PDML boner). On the plus side, I won a couple of awards at the University that might look good on my C.V. - I took first prize in the photography contest and my digital video project The Last Tree on Easter Island won first place in the documentary category at the university film festival. (For those coming to GFM I'll have a new 15-minute video of my Grandfather Mountain photography to show there. Soundtrack music from it is on line at http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3 if you're interested - it's a 4 meg download.) Now that school's done I can... well, Lisa has a whole list of things, actually. Redecorate the spare bedroom, clean my office for the first time in six months, and many others (and I can possibly post to the PDML without making any more major blunders and making a fool of myself - except for the not making a fool of myself part). Oh yes, and I have to get ready for GFM as well. Fortunately, one of my school projects is going to serve as the basis for my GFM presentation, so that shouldn't be too bad. Hope to have it done this weekend so I can just make some prints to bring. Oh, yes - I also have to look for a job, don't I? Got a line on a possible teaching position at a local arts college. We'll see how that pans out. For now, I'm glad just to be re-joining society! (And the PDML - just barely - falls into the category of society g) http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Carrying stuff in the forest
- Original Message - From: Don Williams Subject: Carrying stuff in the forest As long as the path is reasonably smooth one can use wheels. Or even one wheel: http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0521.jpg http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0503.jpg http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0572.jpg The load of logs was ejected and the gear was loaded in its place. And, after moving all this stuff half a kilometre, the result was the picture of the _Anemone __nemorosa_. Quite rare here, but abundant in some places. By the way, the small stand weighs about 18kg; the tripod 5.5kg. The camera bag with lenses is lightweight at about 4kg. I keep meaning to make backpacks for my dogs and let them earn their keep every once and a while. William Robb
Re: ist D flash question
Thanks, Godfrey. I'll investigate that. Unfortunately the ist D manual is poop, and says nothing enlightening (so to speak). Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's reasonable to think that the D model is similar in operation, but I don't have a D instruction manual handy to confirm it right now. Godfrey http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Done!
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: Done! As of now I am officially done with school. After two years (4 semesters) and a literally uncountable numbers of hours I have finished graduate school. (At least as far as the masters degree is concerned, but let's not follow that line of thought any further just now...) I feel as if I'm emerging from a long tunnel or surfacing after swimming 10 laps of a pool underwater and finally being able to catch my breath. Congratulations! I know exactly how you feel... I defended my dissertation on April 4th and I'm walking at commencement next Friday. Graduate school finally over for me as well. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
And, no, slide film is not really intended to be scanned or printed. It does relatively poorly at both. graywolf I would beg to differ with you on that. No film was made with the primary purpose of being scanned. It's been the advent of powerful and affordable digital technology that's allowed it. Great prints can/have come from slides. Commercially there have been relatively few good outfits doing it, but they are out there. The vast majority of landscape/nature fine art prints, coffee table books, calendars, etc., were shot on transparency film. Those photographers never intended their work to be viewed as slide shows, but as prints. Not trying to be argumentative. Tom C.
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
Sadly, I expect slide film to soon disappear entirely. graywolf If/when it does, that's the day I stop all fim usage. Tom C.
Motorcycle Photo Opportunity
A couple of friends and I are going to the motorcycle concours in Half Moon Bay tomorrow. If you're in the area, like bikes, and want some possibly interesting photo ops, take a look here: http://www.legendofthemotorcycle.com/ Maybe I'll see some of you down there. Shel
Re: Motorcycle Photo Opportunity
BAH! I'm on the wrong coast! :-( Take lots of pictures, Shel. -Mat On 5/5/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of friends and I are going to the motorcycle concours in Half Moon Bay tomorrow. If you're in the area, like bikes, and want some possibly interesting photo ops, take a look here: http://www.legendofthemotorcycle.com/
Re: Carrying stuff in the forest
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Don Williams Subject: Carrying stuff in the forest As long as the path is reasonably smooth one can use wheels. Or even one wheel: http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0521.jpg http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0503.jpg http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0572.jpg The load of logs was ejected and the gear was loaded in its place. And, after moving all this stuff half a kilometre, the result was the picture of the _Anemone __nemorosa_. Quite rare here, but abundant in some places. By the way, the small stand weighs about 18kg; the tripod 5.5kg. The camera bag with lenses is lightweight at about 4kg. I keep meaning to make backpacks for my dogs and let them earn their keep every once and a while. Don't be cruel! This is better. http://www.sonic.net/~cdlcruz/carting/pvccart.htm 8-)
Re: PESO - Puffin
I didn't see the original post, but this is very excellent work! -- Bruce Thursday, May 4, 2006, 11:10:59 PM, you wrote: JF Superb. JF John JF On Fri, 05 May 2006 04:04:28 +0100, P. J. Alling JF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's really nice. Jostein wrote: Hi gang, Here's one from last week-end's foray in feathers: http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/lunde-1.html Cheers, Jostein
Re: Motorcycle Photo Opportunity
Shel Belinkoff wrote: A couple of friends and I are going to the motorcycle concours in Half Moon Bay tomorrow. If you're in the area, like bikes, and want some possibly interesting photo ops, take a look here: http://www.legendofthemotorcycle.com/ Too Flashy for me.
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Christian wrote: William Robb wrote: For your enjoyment. I'm just the messenger.. William Robb - Original Message - From: Brian Schneider Subject: Analog versus Digital Shootout http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm At the risk of sounding more dumb than usual What is the point in comparing 20x30 inch 240dpi prints and then showing crappy jpegs on a website? Assuming that they were all done in the same way, this does not affect the outcome of the comparison, does it? Kostas
Re: PESO - Gannet
Another nice shot. Based on not seeing the eye of the bird, I would say that you were above them. This certainly provides a different perspective - quite refreshing. -- Bruce Friday, May 5, 2006, 4:12:35 AM, you wrote: J Another one from our foray in feathers, this time starring the ancient J SMCP-500/4.5 and Tim's 1.7 AF converter. J http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/gannet.html J The image is cropped to about 50% of the original. J Jostein J J This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: ist D flash question
Hello Rick, My basic understanding is the the Auto mode makes it's own determination to fire when the camera decides there is not enough light. The lightning bolt on means that the flash will fire. So if you wanted to do a little fill in reasonable ambient light, the Auto mode would not fire because there was enough light. If the light level is low enough, then both modes would behave the same. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, May 5, 2006, 8:24:07 AM, you wrote: RW Thanks, Godfrey. I'll investigate that. RW Unfortunately the ist D manual is poop, and says RW nothing enlightening (so to speak). RW Rick RW --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's reasonable to think that the D model is similar in operation, but I don't have a D instruction manual handy to confirm it right now. Godfrey RW http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW RW __ RW Do You Yahoo!? RW Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around RW http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Gannet
On 5/5/06, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: Another one from our foray in feathers, this time starring the ancient SMCP-500/4.5 and Tim's 1.7 AF converter. http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/gannet.html Beautiful! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
OT: Curves tutorial
http://ronbigelow.com/articles/curves-1/curves-1.htm And other useful stuff.
Re: Carrying stuff in the forest
Bill, Making the dogs carry stuff? Not a bad idea. And if speed is needed, how about ( hanging out front) a cat on a stick. Colllin KC8TKA
GESO: Window must go
A quick and dirty gallery of newest family members. http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/Hide/index.htm The nest is about a meter from my back door. I have been trimming the plant for a better view and now I must remove the window glass to get sharp pictures. It is a small window with very old, very wavy, glass which I can not get a decent picture through. More and better to come. Powell
Re: Semi OT... DVD rewriter
Thaks to all that responded. Looking at the test of the Philips writer, it seems that it does everything up to and including making breakfast. http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/267 It seems I will have to fall back on PS6 as my sole excuse for crappy pictures mike
Re: PESO - Gannet
Very nice but the black background detracts by hiding the wing tips. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Gannet Another one from our foray in feathers, this time starring the ancient SMCP-500/4.5 and Tim's 1.7 AF converter. http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/gannet.html The image is cropped to about 50% of the original. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Done!
On 5/5/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Oh, yes - I also have to look for a job, don't I? Got a line on a possible teaching position at a local arts college. We'll see how that pans out. I'm sure you'll make the cut, just don't let any rejections dissolve your confidence - they'll fade away and you'll zoom right along ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Done!
Congratulations Mark. Now go out enjoy the day! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Done! Done! As of now I am officially done with school. After two years (4 semesters) and a literally uncountable numbers of hours I have finished graduate school. (At least as far as the masters degree is concerned, but let's not follow that line of thought any further just now...) I feel as if I'm emerging from a long tunnel or surfacing after swimming 10 laps of a pool underwater and finally being able to catch my breath. The last couple of months were particularly intense, since I had two major projects to complete. Yesterday I was able to do my first real photography since February. It was for a job but it still felt great. Since the beginning of the semester I've been following the list sporadically and posting even more sporadically and even less coherently than usual (and yes, this includes writing a private email to Aaron Reynolds and then posting it to the entire damn list: My all-time top PDML boner). On the plus side, I won a couple of awards at the University that might look good on my C.V. - I took first prize in the photography contest and my digital video project The Last Tree on Easter Island won first place in the documentary category at the university film festival. (For those coming to GFM I'll have a new 15-minute video of my Grandfather Mountain photography to show there. Soundtrack music from it is on line at http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3 if you're interested - it's a 4 meg download.) Now that school's done I can... well, Lisa has a whole list of things, actually. Redecorate the spare bedroom, clean my office for the first time in six months, and many others (and I can possibly post to the PDML without making any more major blunders and making a fool of myself - except for the not making a fool of myself part). Oh yes, and I have to get ready for GFM as well. Fortunately, one of my school projects is going to serve as the basis for my GFM presentation, so that shouldn't be too bad. Hope to have it done this weekend so I can just make some prints to bring. Oh, yes - I also have to look for a job, don't I? Got a line on a possible teaching position at a local arts college. We'll see how that pans out. For now, I'm glad just to be re-joining society! (And the PDML - just barely - falls into the category of society g)
RE: Curves tutorial
Hi Collin thanks for the useful link! happy weekend Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 6:25 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT: Curves tutorial http://ronbigelow.com/articles/curves-1/curves-1.htm And other useful stuff.
Re: exhibit ... reminder
Godfrey, thanks for invitation! If only I would live in the USA... :-) Right now it is too far away from Poland for visiting even as good exhibition as yours :-( But one day when I come to the USA who knows? ;-) Thanks again! Cheers Sylwek On 2006-05-05, at 02:12, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The Pacific Arts League Weekend Show was a big success last week. I've got two photos hanging in the Photo and Sculpture show at the same venue, which opened yesterday. I'd like to invite you to come see them and enjoy the reception. --- May 3 - 26 Photo and Sculpture :: Reception 6-9 pm :: Friday, May 5th :: Awards at 6:15 in the Main Gallery gallery viewing hours: Mon-Fri 9-5, Sat 10-4 --- The gallery is located at Pacific Art League of Palo Alto 668 Ramona Street Palo Alto, CA 94301 650-321-3891 www.pacificartleague.org best Godfrey Pozdrowienia Sylwek
Re: PESO - Puffin
Hi gang, Here's one from last week-end's foray in feathers: http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/lunde-1.html I'm having a hard time deciding what I think of this. It's obviously an extreme closeup of a puffin. I like it but it just looks so weird. The bird looks so sad and melancholy (if birds can look that way). The lack of any natural points of reference in the background give the impression the bird was shot in a front of a photographic background or dropcloth. Not criticisms, just observations. Tom C.
Re: OT - Working for a living
And even then, it's frequently digital Clint Clemens and his Canon full-frame digital plus crew get thirty thousand a day. And they earn it. Paul On May 5, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: On May 4, 2006, at 10:26 PM, William Robb wrote: Truly it is sad, but these days shooting for money involves digital cameras. Unless it's shooting for a lot of money! -Aaron
Re: Analog versus Digital Shootout
FWIW ... I've given up looking at web pages like this. The results presented are rarely definitive and generally questionable as to intent, practice and methodology. Whether the question of analog (why do people refer to film as analog rather than film? i find that expression so annoying) compared to digital (and that's in quotes too because the word 'digital' is used to mean so many things it's almost meaningless) is such a broad question in so many directions that it's problematic to even determine what criteria ought to be used to measure performance. I compare prints. Lots of prints. Prints from negatives or transparencies, printed with traditional chemical processes, prints from scanned negatives or transparencies printed with both chemical and inkjet processes, prints from digital captures printed with both again. BW and Color prints too. Depending upon size and the quality of the work done, one or another print will look better to my eye. Good stuff from people who know what they're doing, from either process, allows me to transcend the technical discussion of differences and tend to the real work: the photography. You recall my most recent PAW image, a 2400 ppi scan from a 1983 negative? http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/large/06-half.jpg I was at my class last night and put six photographs, printed to A3 size, on this kind of theme on the table when my turn came up. After the first round of discussion (we're working on statements for an upcoming exhibit), I mentioned to the group that one of the six was NOT digital capture. There are three photographers and two painters in the group. The information sailed over the heads of the painters entirely (I find the painting community does not respond to the technology of photography at all, they respond to color, light, emotional content, etc) but the three photographers did an intense study from that point on of each print. Only one of them correctly identified this one as being a film image ... she found a tiny hair in the image (that I've since cloned out... ;-). One of them told me that he thought *all* of them were medium format TXP when he first looked at them... That's good enough for me. I want to get on with doing photography, I'm confident that the medium I'm using is adequate to the task. Godfrey
Re: Motorcycle Photo Opportunity
Heya Shel, I got your note on this to me the other day, sorry for not responding earlier. Unfortunately, my calendar is a bit too crowded for a HMB run. Have fun, I look forward to seeing the pictures! Godfrey On May 5, 2006, at 8:41 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: A couple of friends and I are going to the motorcycle concours in Half Moon Bay tomorrow. If you're in the area, like bikes, and want some possibly interesting photo ops, take a look here: http://www.legendofthemotorcycle.com/ Maybe I'll see some of you down there. Shel
Re: Done!
Boris Liberman wrote: Congratulations, Mark! Getting a degree is always great achievement and a milestone. This year it's going to be 10 years since I got mine. I still think that those years that I spent studying were absolutely the best of my life... Consider it a friendly warning ;-). Schooldays are the happiest days of your life is an English truism that makes no sense whatsoever until you leave school. Not that it's necessarily true... :-) S
Re: ist D flash question
Yes, I think Bruce has it. I'm looking at the D manual now. When on Program mode, with the Automatic setting, the camera will fire the flash at its discretion. The manual setting means that as long as the flash is open, it will always fire it. What isn't clear is whether the flash must be opened manually for the Automatic mode to work, but you can find that out with a quick test. Sometimes, interpreting the instruction manual is an art in its own right... ;-) Godfrey On May 5, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Hello Rick, My basic understanding is the the Auto mode makes it's own determination to fire when the camera decides there is not enough light. The lightning bolt on means that the flash will fire. So if you wanted to do a little fill in reasonable ambient light, the Auto mode would not fire because there was enough light. If the light level is low enough, then both modes would behave the same. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, May 5, 2006, 8:24:07 AM, you wrote: RW Thanks, Godfrey. I'll investigate that. RW Unfortunately the ist D manual is poop, and says RW nothing enlightening (so to speak). RW Rick RW --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's reasonable to think that the D model is similar in operation, but I don't have a D instruction manual handy to confirm it right now. Godfrey RW http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW RW __ RW Do You Yahoo!? RW Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around RW http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Done!
Congratulations, Mark! On May 5, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: ... Oh, yes - I also have to look for a job, don't I? Got a line on a possible teaching position at a local arts college. We'll see how that pans out. ... You call that a 'job'? ];-) Godfrey
Re: Analog versus Digital Shootout
My Man Godfrey, A painter acquaintenance of mine made this fascinating statement: Photography is for people who can't draw. Though he did really like my 4x5 bw shot of the naked ladies lilies. Collin KC8TKA
Re: Carrying stuff in the forest
You could always buy one, they're not _that_ expensive... *http://tinyurl.com/gsz39* William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Don Williams Subject: Carrying stuff in the forest As long as the path is reasonably smooth one can use wheels. Or even one wheel: http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0521.jpg http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0503.jpg http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/hold/0572.jpg The load of logs was ejected and the gear was loaded in its place. And, after moving all this stuff half a kilometre, the result was the picture of the _Anemone __nemorosa_. Quite rare here, but abundant in some places. By the way, the small stand weighs about 18kg; the tripod 5.5kg. The camera bag with lenses is lightweight at about 4kg. I keep meaning to make backpacks for my dogs and let them earn their keep every once and a while. William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: OT - Working for a living
On May 5, 2006, at 12:17 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: 2400x3600 doesn't sound too bad (almost 9Mpix, so you beat the *ist's ;-), the 1 hour scans I was referring to are 800x600... Maybe it's wise to evaluate the quality of the scans beforehand? Definitely. That scan resolution is somewhat low. Do you get [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIFFs from the process? How good is the scan quality? My experience is that film requires scans double to triple the number of pixels as digital capture to achieve comparable print quality. 2400x3600 scans from 35mm negative is only a 2550 ppi scan. A 35mm full frame negative scanned at 2550 ppi will make an 8x12 inch image at 300 ppi output ... presuming that the rendering work post scanning is done carefully, and that there's minimal grain aliasing issues. (A Minolta Scan Dual II 35mm film scanner from 2000 is 2820ppi. Current state of the art in consumer film scanners is 4000 to 5400 ppi.) Godfrey
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
If you're going to use poor scanning technique you will end up with bad scans, which will bias your results in favor of pure digital capture. My crappy scanner gives better results than I saw in that comparison. I've become almost completely digital but mostly due to convenience not quality. Though the quality from raw capture on both the *ist-D and Ds are more than acceptable, if I really worked at it and used perfectly exposed negatives or slides I could do better. Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 5 May 2006, Christian wrote: William Robb wrote: For your enjoyment. I'm just the messenger.. William Robb - Original Message - From: Brian Schneider Subject: Analog versus Digital Shootout http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm At the risk of sounding more dumb than usual What is the point in comparing 20x30 inch 240dpi prints and then showing crappy jpegs on a website? Assuming that they were all done in the same way, this does not affect the outcome of the comparison, does it? Kostas -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
William Robb wrote: For your enjoyment. I'm just the messenger.. William Robb - Original Message - From: Brian Schneider Subject: Analog versus Digital Shootout http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm At the risk of sounding more dumb than usual What is the point in comparing 20x30 inch 240dpi prints and then showing crappy jpegs on a website? also, they mentioned upsizing the film scans in CS2 but made a point of mentioning that when they upsized the digi-image they used multiple steps. Did they use multiple steps with the film scans? And... what was the aperture? and why would you want to compare 20x30 prints when you can't even print that size? so many flaws in this test (and, yes, I know that's why Mr. Robb sent us the link). I'm no pixelpeeper or measurebator. I make pictures. my tests are as simple as how did the picture turn out? or wow that image is soft... I wonder if it was the lens or me? and wow, must be the lens, time for something else the sorts of tests that people post on websites just seem like reassurance to the photographer that the purchase they made was justified. I mean, I've seen so called tests that prove that a 17-55 crappy canon kit lens (CCKL) is better than the 17-40 L lens. whatever. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net
Re: PESO - Gannet
I didn't see the original post but I'll second what Cotty said. Cotty wrote: On 5/5/06, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: Another one from our foray in feathers, this time starring the ancient SMCP-500/4.5 and Tim's 1.7 AF converter. http://www.oksne.net/paw/runde/gannet.html Beautiful! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
FS not mine, but maybe of interest here
http://www.craigslist.org/sby/spo/157573745.html
RE: First enablement in quite a while.
Hi P.J think about it a bit please! There is a good reason why I asked for that favor. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 6:46 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: First enablement in quite a while. This is a silly question. Why not do the test yourself, you've got both lenses... Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Don could you show me a comparison shot of the bokeh of the M100 and Tamron 90mm? I own both lenses and wonder whether I should use the Pentax M 100 more... thanks Markus -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:57 AM To: PDML Subject: First enablement in quite a while. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7612790892 I know I paid too much for it but I was out this morning and compared the M100/2.8 to my Tamron SP 90 macro. The bokeh on the 100 is SO much smoother. This should be the same lens without the Green Button Zip sound required, scared away two birds this morning. ;-( Been buying only broken stuff lately, be nice to get one that works out of the box. Don -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Aperture
On Apr 27, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Derby Chang wrote: I'm not terribly interested in mac software, since I don't use it. But I am interested in design processes and quality controls as a part of my day job. I think someone at Apple took their eye off the ball with Aperture. You can learn a lot when things go wrong. I wonder where I can read more on what did go wrong. http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0604aperture.html The UI does look nice though (even if the Ars Technica review says it has serious problems). For another perspective on the ThinkSecret article, read John Gruber's take in Daring Fireball. Apparently someone at Apple didn't read Fred Brooks: http://daringfireball.net/2006/04/aperture_dirt http://daringfireball.net/2006/05/more_aperture_dirt [Note: I'm an Authorized Apple Business Agent (and I'd be very happy to sell you a Mac. :-) ). However, I'm not an Apple employee. The following are my personal opinions.] I don't use Aperture yet -- although I thought the demos at Photo- Plus last year were impressive, I had little use for it since it didn't support Pentax RAW. I also read the biting review at Ars Technica. I think Apple has taken the criticism seriously. If you look at the negative points in the reviews, you'll notice in the version 1.1 specs that many of them have been addressed. There's a supposedly improved RAW processor. They've added support for DNG and Pentax RAW (the specs list a Pentax *1st D which I think is a typo). You will still need a Mac with good graphics to use it, and I think this will limit its appeal at least in the short term. It won't install on computers that don't meet its minimum specs. I look forward to getting my NFR copy and try it out. --jc
RE: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
Out of curiosity (and having read the parts of the thread that have landed on my mailbox so far), is slide film designed to be scanned/printed? Is this why one would shoot slide? I don't, so I am only asking. there are plenty of reasons for shooting slides, unconnected with scanning. However, slide processing - especially Kodachrome - is rapidly fading. I used to shoot Kodachrome, and I've found that it scans quite well, although it's too old to have been designed for it. However, I prefer negative colour film for scanning. Most of the recent ones (from Kodak, I'm not familiar with others) are designed to scan well. Print film is generally better than slide film because it does not have so much contrast or saturation, and is more tolerant of exposure errors. The wide latitude and relatively lower contrast tends to produce a better print, both conventional and digital (although I suppose digital is now the conventional way of doing it) at lower cost. I like digital prints made from scanned colour film, they tend to capture subtleties better. Such things are, of course, a matter of taste. Bob
Re: Done!
Congrats! We expect to see/hear more from you now on. Good luck on the job hunt. -- Bruce Friday, May 5, 2006, 6:28:19 AM, you wrote: MR Done! MR As of now I am officially done with school. After two years (4 MR semesters) and a literally uncountable numbers of hours I have MR finished graduate school. (At least as far as the masters degree is MR concerned, but let's not follow that line of thought any further just MR now...) MR I feel as if I'm emerging from a long tunnel or surfacing after MR swimming 10 laps of a pool underwater and finally being able to catch MR my breath. MR The last couple of months were particularly intense, since I had two MR major projects to complete. Yesterday I was able to do my first real MR photography since February. It was for a job but it still felt great. MR Since the beginning of the semester I've been following the list MR sporadically and posting even more sporadically and even less MR coherently than usual (and yes, this includes writing a private email MR to Aaron Reynolds and then posting it to the entire damn list: My MR all-time top PDML boner). On the plus side, I won a couple of awards MR at the University that might look good on my C.V. - I took first prize MR in the photography contest and my digital video project The Last Tree MR on Easter Island won first place in the documentary category at the MR university film festival. (For those coming to GFM I'll have a new MR 15-minute video of my Grandfather Mountain photography to show there. MR Soundtrack music from it is on line at MR http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3 if you're interested - it's a MR 4 meg download.) MR Now that school's done I can... well, Lisa has a whole list of things, MR actually. Redecorate the spare bedroom, clean my office for the first MR time in six months, and many others (and I can possibly post to the MR PDML without making any more major blunders and making a fool of MR myself - except for the not making a fool of myself part). Oh yes, and MR I have to get ready for GFM as well. Fortunately, one of my school MR projects is going to serve as the basis for my GFM presentation, so MR that shouldn't be too bad. Hope to have it done this weekend so I can MR just make some prints to bring. MR Oh, yes - I also have to look for a job, don't I? Got a line on a MR possible teaching position at a local arts college. We'll see how that MR pans out. MR For now, I'm glad just to be re-joining society! (And the PDML - just MR barely - falls into the category of society g)
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
Well, no -- because they threw away detail from the 6x6 scan to make the resolutions equivalent, destroying the comparison. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout Date: Fri May 5, 2006 12:02 pm Size: 605 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net On Fri, 5 May 2006, Christian wrote: William Robb wrote: For your enjoyment. I'm just the messenger.. William Robb - Original Message - From: Brian Schneider Subject: Analog versus Digital Shootout http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm At the risk of sounding more dumb than usual What is the point in comparing 20x30 inch 240dpi prints and then showing crappy jpegs on a website? Assuming that they were all done in the same way, this does not affect the outcome of the comparison, does it? Kostas
Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: Fw: Analog versus Digital Shootout http://www.ales.litomisky.com/shootout/analogversusdigitalshootout.htm At the risk of sounding more dumb than usual What is the point in comparing 20x30 inch 240dpi prints and then showing crappy jpegs on a website? Assuming that they were all done in the same way, this does not affect the outcome of the comparison, does it? The problem with this sort of test is that the very nature of it favours digital. William Robb
Re: Carrying stuff in the forest
I remember running into a guy on the Appalachian Trail who did that. Being a kind person he had loaded some light but bulky stuff in the dog packs. Like his sleeping bag and down parka. The dog decided to go for a romp in the woods and came back sans packs. I met the guy shivering in one of the shelters cussing the dog up, down, and crossways, while it continued to snow. About 6 six inchs when I arrived at the shelter, and about 2 feet the next morning. It eventually got to 60 inchs in that area the heaviest snowfall ever recorded in May. Of course I imagine your dogs are better trained than his was grin. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- William Robb wrote: I keep meaning to make backpacks for my dogs and let them earn their keep every once and a while.
Re: Another one bites the dust.
On 5/4/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck, this frees me up to do all sorts of meaningfull things. Like get my basement cleaned out and build a darkroom and sauna. That's great. Wish I could have a darkroom but apartments have too little room as it is. Cheers, Gautam
Re: Carrying stuff in the forest
- Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: Carrying stuff in the forest Of course I imagine your dogs are better trained than his was grin. My breed of choice is one that tends to stay close as well. William Robb
get Nikon's new 10.2 megapixel D200 digital SLR camera at BH
*BH Photo Video* http://hotdeals.apple.com/bhphotovideo/index.php has deals on a variety of Mac compatible products; get Nikon's new 10.2 megapixel D200 digital SLR camera kit w/18-70mm auto-focus zoom lens for only $.99!; Olympus Evolt E-330, 7.5 megapixel digital SLR camera kit w/14-45mm auto-focus zoom lens for only $.95; get ready for summer movies with the Canon ZR-600 Mini Digital Video camcorder with 25x optical zoom lens and color viewfinder for only $XXX.95; Lexar 1GB Secure Digital (SD) card for only $XX.99; print your images like a pro with the Epson Stylus Pro 7800 large-format professional inkjet printer for only $.00!; and much more. not advertising, just sharing. -- home http://roman.blakout.net/
Re: get Nikon's new 10.2 megapixel D200 digital SLR camera at BH
On May 5, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Roman wrote: *BH Photo Video* http://hotdeals.apple.com/bhphotovideo/ index.php has deals on a variety of Mac compatible products; get Nikon's new 10.2 megapixel D200 digital SLR camera kit w/18-70mm auto-focus zoom lens for only $.99!; Olympus Evolt E-330, 7.5 megapixel digital SLR camera kit w/14-45mm auto-focus zoom lens for only $.95; get ready for summer movies with the Canon ZR-600 Mini Digital Video camcorder with 25x optical zoom lens and color viewfinder for only $XXX.95; Lexar 1GB Secure Digital (SD) card for only $XX.99; print your images like a pro with the Epson Stylus Pro 7800 large-format professional inkjet printer for only $.00!; and much more. Why the XXX crap? Tell us the prices if you really want to share. Bob
Re: Done!
Mark Roberts wrote: I feel as if I'm emerging from a long tunnel or surfacing after swimming 10 laps of a pool underwater and finally being able to catch my breath. Well-earned congrats, Mark! Traditional undergrads don't realize how easy they have it. Try going to school and having a life at the same time... For now, I'm glad just to be re-joining society! (And the PDML - just barely - falls into the category of society g) Mark! Best regards, Stephen Moore
The List ... sigh
Hey, all ... I've noticed that many posts, including mine, are not making it to the list. However, sometimes the original post and some, or all, of the follow-up posts, are in the archives. I just want people to know that if I don't reply to your on-list messages, and seem to drop out of discussions, it's most likely because I don't see the messages. Shel
Re: Aperture
Juey Chong Ong wrote: On Apr 27, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Derby Chang wrote: I'm not terribly interested in mac software, since I don't use it. But I am interested in design processes and quality controls as a part of my day job. I think someone at Apple took their eye off the ball with Aperture. You can learn a lot when things go wrong. I wonder where I can read more on what did go wrong. http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0604aperture.html The UI does look nice though (even if the Ars Technica review says it has serious problems). For another perspective on the ThinkSecret article, read John Gruber's take in Daring Fireball. Apparently someone at Apple didn't read Fred Brooks: http://daringfireball.net/2006/04/aperture_dirt http://daringfireball.net/2006/05/more_aperture_dirt [Note: I'm an Authorized Apple Business Agent (and I'd be very happy to sell you a Mac. :-) ). However, I'm not an Apple employee. The following are my personal opinions.] I don't use Aperture yet -- although I thought the demos at Photo-Plus last year were impressive, I had little use for it since it didn't support Pentax RAW. I also read the biting review at Ars Technica. I think Apple has taken the criticism seriously. If you look at the negative points in the reviews, you'll notice in the version 1.1 specs that many of them have been addressed. There's a supposedly improved RAW processor. They've added support for DNG and Pentax RAW (the specs list a Pentax *1st D which I think is a typo). You will still need a Mac with good graphics to use it, and I think this will limit its appeal at least in the short term. It won't install on computers that don't meet its minimum specs. I look forward to getting my NFR copy and try it out. --jc Ah...the mythical man-month strikes again. Thanks for the links D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
RE: The List ... sigh
I had perceived that problem to have somewhat corrected itself and that the list was just rather slow lately. Tom C. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: The List ... sigh Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 14:08:22 -0700 Hey, all ... I've noticed that many posts, including mine, are not making it to the list. However, sometimes the original post and some, or all, of the follow-up posts, are in the archives. I just want people to know that if I don't reply to your on-list messages, and seem to drop out of discussions, it's most likely because I don't see the messages. Shel
Friday FS: Street Photos book - last chance for first print run
Hi all, I'm about to make the last count to put the printing order of my book in. I will definitely print more in the future, (no more than 200 though) but if you order one now you'll get it from the first batch :) To those of you who ordered one, thanks! Your book will be shipping mid next week, as promised. 8x6.5, hard cover, bound in black cloth with dark grey faux suede gloved spine. It contains 30 images, 16 of which are the ones in my show. It is a limited edition of 200, signed and numbered. FWIW, all photographs were taken with my ist D in 2005 and early 2006. The price is $60, plus $5 for packing and shipping in the USA, $10 elsewhere. Or $100 for the book plus an 8x12 print of your choice from my show. You can get better books by better photographers for less money at Borders, but hey. For the record, I'm not making any money off this project--it was just for fun and to see if there was interest. To get one, place an order here: http://www.jbuhler.com/buy/book.html The shopping cart software I use can accept Paypal, or you can choose to send me a check or money order. As an offer to the pdml and because the price I had estimated at the beginning was slightly lower, enter this voucher code to get a 10% discount: 920460260051 Books will start shipping mid next week. Thanks, j -- Juan Buhler Check out my book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com
RE: The List ... sigh
Tom C wrote: I had perceived that problem to have somewhat corrected itself and that the list was just rather slow lately. If only :-( Malcolm
