Re: PESO: New Hampshire lake
Strange, when did Wenonah gain all this brand recognition? Back in the days when I was seriously into canoeing they were considered a decent mid-line boat, but reletively unknown. Recently I have heard them mentioned several times. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Tom C wrote: I like the picture. A nice point in time shot enhanced by the fish-eye. Is the canoe a Wenonah? Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: New Hampshire lake Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Way overdue for a PESO. We were away on our annual pilgrimage to the mountains and lakes of New Hampshire earlier this month. Mid-afternoon pix are naughty, I know, but the colors were especially rich. The red canoe in the foreground is our humble but beloved watercraft. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4843602 Tech stuff: ist D, FA 10-17, ISO 400, 1/150 @f/16, RAW conversion with ACR, minimal adjustment in PE4. Plaudits and brickbats welcomed. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO -- Chartreuse Coupe
I couldn't fall asleep so I decided to post a PESO. I took this last Bastille day, really beside the point but a it seems an interesting tidbit. Why should Stenquist have all the fun of annoying the group with classic car photos. I cropped it to 8x10 as the subject seemed to centered in the frame. http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_chartreusecoupe.html Technical Info.: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 400 @ 1/250sec (Av) smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8-5.6 AL[IF] @f5.6 (113mm) -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Contax list?
Thanks Bob, I've signed up. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Shell Sent: 25 August 2006 02:09 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Contax list? On Aug 24, 2006, at 2:18 PM, Bob W wrote: Hi, does anybody know where the Contax list is situated now? I have googled for it, but only came up with one which seems to require a paid subscription. I used to be on a/the Contax list some years ago, but it seems to have disappeared. Thanks, Bob We're still around and active. You think Pentax bashing is fun, wait until you get up with us in our Kyocera bashing!!! ___ Contax mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://contaxlist.com/mailman/listinfo/contax_contaxlist.com Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Grip for JIS crosspoint screwdriver?
Hi list, Someone managed to drop a camera with my F70-210/4-5.6 attached. Camera and lens appear to be fine, except that the zoom is stuck at 70mm. Although the optimist in me says that I did not lose a zoom but gained a prime, I'd still like to try my hand at repairing it. The mount screws are firmly in place, so I guess I need a JIS screwdriver. Www.micro-tools.com has these as what appears to be a blade only. See http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=ENScreen=PRODProduct_Code=49-8071Category_Code=SCPStore_Code=MTE and http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=ENScreen=PRODProduct_Code=49-8072Category_Code=SCPStore_Code=MTE. Does anyone know which one (#0 or #00) I need? Do I need a seperate grip for them? Would anyone know what grip fits? I mailed Microtools two days ago with the last two questions, but they do not seem to respond... Thanks in advance for any pointers, -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW
I presume this is not what you intended, but it is kind of cool. I believe I would have cropped off an inch at the bottom, getting rid of some of the conflicting colours of the rocks. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Womer Sent: 25. august 2006 03:22 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW Saturday night at GFM (the June edition) there was a very nice sunset, and several of us repaired to the top of the mountain to photograph it. I was shooting JPG, feeling intimidated my the perceived arcana of RAW conversion. It was a mistake. The colors came out very strangely, with different strangenesses depending on where I set the white balance. Detail wasn't very good, either. This shot was one of the best, and it suffered horribly getting compressed to a web-suitable size: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4848240 Ist D, FA 16-45, JPG, ISO 400, 1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/11. JPG converted to TIFF for editing, then saved for Web in PE4. The TIFF looks a lot better than the displayed JPG, but even the original JPG was disappointing. And that is why I now shoot RAW. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Grip for JIS crosspoint screwdriver?
I don't know which tip you need but have a look at the Moody Tools website: www.moodytools.com Doing a search of their site it seems the Acu-Min range of handles are suitable. HTH Dave On 8/25/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, Someone managed to drop a camera with my F70-210/4-5.6 attached. Camera and lens appear to be fine, except that the zoom is stuck at 70mm. Although the optimist in me says that I did not lose a zoom but gained a prime, I'd still like to try my hand at repairing it. The mount screws are firmly in place, so I guess I need a JIS screwdriver. Www.micro-tools.com has these as what appears to be a blade only. See http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=ENScreen=PRODProduct_Code=49-8071Category_Code=SCPStore_Code=MTE and http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=ENScreen=PRODProduct_Code=49-8072Category_Code=SCPStore_Code=MTE. Does anyone know which one (#0 or #00) I need? Do I need a seperate grip for them? Would anyone know what grip fits? I mailed Microtools two days ago with the last two questions, but they do not seem to respond... Thanks in advance for any pointers, -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Grip for JIS crosspoint screwdriver?
Turning a zoom into a prime, that's improvement, primes are better. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucas Rijnders Sent: 25. august 2006 09:23 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Grip for JIS crosspoint screwdriver? Hi list, Someone managed to drop a camera with my F70-210/4-5.6 attached. Camera and lens appear to be fine, except that the zoom is stuck at 70mm. Although the optimist in me says that I did not lose a zoom but gained a prime, I'd still like to try my hand at repairing it. The mount screws are firmly in place, so I guess I need a JIS screwdriver. Www.micro-tools.com has these as what appears to be a blade only. See http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=ENScreen=PRO DProduct_Code=49-8071Category_Code=SCPStore_Code=MTE and http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=ENScreen=PRO DProduct_Code=49-8072Category_Code=SCPStore_Code=MTE. Does anyone know which one (#0 or #00) I need? Do I need a seperate grip for them? Would anyone know what grip fits? I mailed Microtools two days ago with the last two questions, but they do not seem to respond... Thanks in advance for any pointers, -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comments on FA 24-90, please
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A simple Kalt or similar generic 67mm metal screw in lens hood will do a reasonable job. It won't be optimal for the lens at 90mm focal length, but it will be good enough for most purposes so as not to matter. I think one may struggle for a 24 @ 35mm. The Pentax round hood for the 28-80 is so wide and shallow I don't bother. I had tried a couple of other generic ones and they would vignette. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Full Frame/Canon
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: Pentax has already done motorcycles: http://www.motorsports-network.com/kawasaki/06kaw/zx10.htm (ZX-10) Plastic mount? Kostas (Kawasaki fan from the distance) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Japan DSLR Stats
On 8/25/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the first time since I've been using Pentax on a regular basis, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. That's the train grin -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS friday, was Re: Grip for JIS crosspoint screwdriver?
Op Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:13:31 +0200 schreef Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Turning a zoom into a prime, that's improvement, primes are better. Hmmm, I could turn this into a business... Anyone want to buy the rare, extremely hard to find smc Pentax-F 1:4 70mm lens? In good, but used contition. Yours for a mere $500,-, including worldwide shipping. Paypal preferred. Someone managed to drop a camera with my F70-210/4-5.6 attached. Camera and lens appear to be fine, except that the zoom is stuck at 70mm. Although the optimist in me says that I did not lose a zoom but gained a prime, I'd still like to try my hand at repairing it. The mount screws are firmly in place, so I guess I need a JIS screwdriver. Www.micro-tools.com has these as what appears to be a blade only. See http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=ENScreen=PRO DProduct_Code=49-8071Category_Code=SCPStore_Code=MTE and http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=ENScreen=PRO DProduct_Code=49-8072Category_Code=SCPStore_Code=MTE. Does anyone know which one (#0 or #00) I need? Do I need a seperate grip for them? Would anyone know what grip fits? I mailed Microtools two days ago with the last two questions, but they do not seem to respond... Thanks in advance for any pointers, -- :o) Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Talked to Bill Owens tonight!
On 24/8/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Yesterday Bill left a message on my answering machine and tonight he returned the call. Wow. He sounds like either a new man or his old self; which statement fits better I can't say. He's out of the hospital and back at home, though with in-home nursing care still. I must say that he sounded, both in terms of his voice and his demeanor, 100% improved from the past couple of times I've talked to him. In fact, his computer seems to have weathered the past few months less successfully than Bill and is suffering from a dead motherboard. Bill has a new Dell on order and says he'll be back on-list some time next week. With the start of the fall semester, I'm going to be too busy to contribute much over the next few weeks, so I'll ask everyone else to give him a warm welcome back. I think he really will make it to GFM next year. That's really nice. I'm sure he will receive a warm welcome. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Chartreuse Coupe
Nice shot. The hat makes it. Is it an Auburn Speedster? Paul On Aug 25, 2006, at 2:46 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I couldn't fall asleep so I decided to post a PESO. I took this last Bastille day, really beside the point but a it seems an interesting tidbit. Why should Stenquist have all the fun of annoying the group with classic car photos. I cropped it to 8x10 as the subject seemed to centered in the frame. http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_chartreusecoupe.html Technical Info.: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 400 @ 1/250sec (Av) smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8-5.6 AL[IF] @f5.6 (113mm) -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW
Tim, On the TIFF and the original JPG, the contrasting colors are part of the photo's interest, I think. The foreground was in cool bluish shade, and the background lit by the warm setting sun. Rick --- Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I presume this is not what you intended, but it is kind of cool. I believe I would have cropped off an inch at the bottom, getting rid of some of the conflicting colours of the rocks. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Womer Sent: 25. august 2006 03:22 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW Saturday night at GFM (the June edition) there was a very nice sunset, and several of us repaired to the top of the mountain to photograph it. I was shooting JPG, feeling intimidated my the perceived arcana of RAW conversion. It was a mistake. The colors came out very strangely, with different strangenesses depending on where I set the white balance. Detail wasn't very good, either. This shot was one of the best, and it suffered horribly getting compressed to a web-suitable size: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4848240 Ist D, FA 16-45, JPG, ISO 400, 1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/11. JPG converted to TIFF for editing, then saved for Web in PE4. The TIFF looks a lot better than the displayed JPG, but even the original JPG was disappointing. And that is why I now shoot RAW. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: New Hampshire lake
The canoe is an Old Town Penobscot. Lovely boat. Rick --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strange, when did Wenonah gain all this brand recognition? Back in the days when I was seriously into canoeing they were considered a decent mid-line boat, but reletively unknown. Recently I have heard them mentioned several times. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Tom C wrote: I like the picture. A nice point in time shot enhanced by the fish-eye. Is the canoe a Wenonah? Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: New Hampshire lake Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Way overdue for a PESO. We were away on our annual pilgrimage to the mountains and lakes of New Hampshire earlier this month. Mid-afternoon pix are naughty, I know, but the colors were especially rich. The red canoe in the foreground is our humble but beloved watercraft. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4843602 Tech stuff: ist D, FA 10-17, ISO 400, 1/150 @f/16, RAW conversion with ACR, minimal adjustment in PE4. Plaudits and brickbats welcomed. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Men with cameras: Canon
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060825142318 First I'd noticed him photographing me, so I contra photographed him. Will seek for other men with cameras in my archives to have one huge set of various photo gears I saw this summer. Somehow women seem to like Sony alpha so much. I remember having as least 3 of em using alpha, but I only had seen one guy with Pentax *istD(S) for entire summer period here. -- home http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Chartreuse Coupe
P. J. Alling wrote: I couldn't fall asleep so I decided to post a PESO. I took this last Bastille day, really beside the point but a it seems an interesting tidbit. Why should Stenquist have all the fun of annoying the group with classic car photos. I cropped it to 8x10 as the subject seemed to centered in the frame. http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_chartreusecoupe.html Technical Info.: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 400 @ 1/250sec (Av) smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8-5.6 AL[IF] @f5.6 (113mm) Really nice shot of an old boattail roadster with an interesting colour-scheme. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Men with cameras: Canon
On 25/8/06, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060825142318 First I'd noticed him photographing me, so I contra photographed him. Will seek for other men with cameras in my archives to have one huge set of various photo gears I saw this summer. Somehow women seem to like Sony alpha so much. I remember having as least 3 of em using alpha, but I only had seen one guy with Pentax *istD(S) for entire summer period here. LOL Excellent shot. Love the little string holding his lens cap in case he loses it. As for 'seeking other men with cameras', steady on old boy ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Another kind of northern light
A summer memory: Deciduous forest (backlit) http://folk.uio.no/mdahl/Deciduous.html Pentax *ist DS, 50-200mm @ 50mm, 1/60, f6.7 Best regards, Morten -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comments on FA 24-90, please
On Aug 25, 2006, at 1:26 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A simple Kalt or similar generic 67mm metal screw in lens hood will do a reasonable job. It won't be optimal for the lens at 90mm focal length, but it will be good enough for most purposes so as not to matter. I think one may struggle for a 24 @ 35mm. The Pentax round hood for the 28-80 is so wide and shallow I don't bother. I had tried a couple of other generic ones and they would vignette. I was thinking of a hood for the 24-90 to be used on the DSLRs only. For a 35mm film SLR, I'd just get the Pentax hood as that is what it's designed for. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Talked to Bill Owens tonight!
On 8/24/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday Bill left a message on my answering machine and tonight he returned the call. Wow. He sounds like either a new man or his old self;snip Still in lurk mode here, but I ~must~ respond to this with a great big Woo Hoo!! Terrific news, Mark. Thanks for passing it on. Can't wait to see Bill next year @ GFM NPW. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Chartreuse Coupe
I don't know, the restoration removed any identifiable badges. I didn't speak with the driver. Paul Stenquist wrote: Nice shot. The hat makes it. Is it an Auburn Speedster? Paul On Aug 25, 2006, at 2:46 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I couldn't fall asleep so I decided to post a PESO. I took this last Bastille day, really beside the point but a it seems an interesting tidbit. Why should Stenquist have all the fun of annoying the group with classic car photos. I cropped it to 8x10 as the subject seemed to centered in the frame. http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_chartreusecoupe.html Technical Info.: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 400 @ 1/250sec (Av) smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8-5.6 AL[IF] @f5.6 (113mm) -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Great paper on Colour Management
Hi team, I just stumbled across a great little paper on colour management which covers all areas of interest to digital photographers, I hope that you find it of benefit. COLOUR MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP NOTES 2005 Copyright Les Walkling 2005 Version 2005:6 http://media-arts.rmit.edu.au/Les_Walkling/Colour_Management_Notes.pdf#search=%22Epson%207600%22 -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
I haven't posted anything (worth reading some would say) in the way of pictures for such a long time. Home reno and work commitments take precedence, but a weeks R and R to my parent's meant I could actually dust off the sensor and try and remember how to shoot a landscape. Or two. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic42.html http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic43.html Both shot with 1D and SMC K15mm f3.5 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
Neither URL connects. Please don't make me wait long. ;) Jack --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't posted anything (worth reading some would say) in the way of pictures for such a long time. Home reno and work commitments take precedence, but a weeks R and R to my parent's meant I could actually dust off the sensor and try and remember how to shoot a landscape. Or two. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic42.html http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic43.html Both shot with 1D and SMC K15mm f3.5 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
Not so much landscapes as seascapes and/or cloudscapes, since the clouds are were much of the interest lies. They need to be bigger. Cotty wrote: I haven't posted anything (worth reading some would say) in the way of pictures for such a long time. Home reno and work commitments take precedence, but a weeks R and R to my parent's meant I could actually dust off the sensor and try and remember how to shoot a landscape. Or two. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic42.html http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic43.html Both shot with 1D and SMC K15mm f3.5 -- -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Great paper on Colour Management
Great information. Thanks for sharing. Paul -- Original message -- From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi team, I just stumbled across a great little paper on colour management which covers all areas of interest to digital photographers, I hope that you find it of benefit. COLOUR MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP NOTES 2005 Copyright Les Walkling 2005 Version 2005:6 http://media-arts.rmit.edu.au/Les_Walkling/Colour_Management_Notes.pdf#search=%2 2Epson%207600%22 -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
On Aug 25, 2006, at 6:52 AM, Cotty wrote: I haven't posted anything (worth reading some would say) in the way of pictures for such a long time. Home reno and work commitments take precedence, but a weeks R and R to my parent's meant I could actually dust off the sensor and try and remember how to shoot a landscape. Or two. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic42.html http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic43.html Both shot with 1D and SMC K15mm f3.5 quite nice, both of them. I'd enjoy seeing a larger rendering! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
Both very nice. I particularly like the lighthouse shot. It's a superb composition. Well rendered too. Paul -- Original message -- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't posted anything (worth reading some would say) in the way of pictures for such a long time. Home reno and work commitments take precedence, but a weeks R and R to my parent's meant I could actually dust off the sensor and try and remember how to shoot a landscape. Or two. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic42.html http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic43.html Both shot with 1D and SMC K15mm f3.5 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
Cotty wrote: I haven't posted anything (worth reading some would say) in the way of pictures for such a long time. Home reno and work commitments take precedence, but a weeks R and R to my parent's meant I could actually dust off the sensor and try and remember how to shoot a landscape. Or two. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic42.html http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic43.html Both shot with 1D and SMC K15mm f3.5 Nice cloudcapes, would like to see them larger though, the small size does not do them justice. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Grip for JIS crosspoint screwdriver?
That is a replacement tip for a screwdriver set. Moody makes all kinds of drivers. You might want to check their website: http://www.moodytools.com/ -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Lucas Rijnders wrote: Hi list, Someone managed to drop a camera with my F70-210/4-5.6 attached. Camera and lens appear to be fine, except that the zoom is stuck at 70mm. Although the optimist in me says that I did not lose a zoom but gained a prime, I'd still like to try my hand at repairing it. The mount screws are firmly in place, so I guess I need a JIS screwdriver. Www.micro-tools.com has these as what appears to be a blade only. See http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=ENScreen=PRODProduct_Code=49-8071Category_Code=SCPStore_Code=MTE and http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?LTPLanguage=ENScreen=PRODProduct_Code=49-8072Category_Code=SCPStore_Code=MTE. Does anyone know which one (#0 or #00) I need? Do I need a seperate grip for them? Would anyone know what grip fits? I mailed Microtools two days ago with the last two questions, but they do not seem to respond... Thanks in advance for any pointers, -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS Friday: several Pentax lenses (and an AF body)
For sale (I have reduced again the price of the SMC-A 15 mm.): SMC Pentax-A 15 mm. 3.5, , an excellent ultra wide lens, compatible in all exposure modes with Pentax DSLRs, LN- 500 euros. SMC Pentax-A 50 mm. 1.2, the fastest lens Pentax has ever made, in A version (compatible with all exposure modes with Pentax DSLRs) LN- 250 euros. Tokina 28-70 2.6-2.8 ATX Pro II (for Pentax AF). LN in box, including both caps, hood and instruction manual. A very well made, fast pro zoom. 200 euros. SMC Pentax 85 mm. 1.8 (K series)+ original lens hood, well used, but no dust inside. The lens was serviced 3 years ago and shows some brassing, but the aperture and focus rings work smoothly, There's a very tiny coating mark (a tiny hairline) in the back element, hardly visible, which doesn't affect the image quality. As many of you will know, nowadays it is a very difficult to find lens, and when found, quite expensive. 250 euros. SMC Pentax-FA 80-320 mm. 4.5-5.6 (AF, black version). Ex+. 120 euros. Pentax MZ-5 AF SLR (boxed,with Spanish instruction manual) + F remote switch and FG AA battery pack. Ex+. 120 euros. Prices don't include shipping expenses from Spain. Regards, Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Chartreuse Coupe
Looks like a roadster to me. Probably a fiberglass replica of an Auburn Boat-tail speedster. Hum..? A closer look tends to make me think it is a restoration. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- P. J. Alling wrote: I couldn't fall asleep so I decided to post a PESO. I took this last Bastille day, really beside the point but a it seems an interesting tidbit. Why should Stenquist have all the fun of annoying the group with classic car photos. I cropped it to 8x10 as the subject seemed to centered in the frame. http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_chartreusecoupe.html Technical Info.: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 400 @ 1/250sec (Av) smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8-5.6 AL[IF] @f5.6 (113mm) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
It's nice to see that after three weeks gone, the PDML is still the same I re-subscribed and the first messages I got were off-topic threads and a bitch session about DSLRs in Japan... It's just like coming home after vacation... :-) Speaking of vacation, here is the QD tourist shot of Sydney: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-55 and of course, I have to throw in a bird: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-56 Sulpher-crested Cockatoo. They were perching on the balconies of the hotel where I stayed on Hamilton Island. Comments always appreciated. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO -- Chartreuse Coupe II
This is a bit more timeless. http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_chartreusecoupeii.html Technical Info.: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 400 @ 1/350sec (Av) smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8-5.6 AL[IF] @f4.0 (38mm) Notes: I wasn't going to post this one the focus was a bit off. It needs to be a bit in front of the driver to get the entire car in acceptable focus while rendering the background as sharp as possible for what I wanted to achieve , and even though the car wasn't moving very fast there's apparent motion blur in the taillights at full resolution. However I touched it up a bit and the problems aren't as noticeable at web resolution. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. The cat sig is coming down as soon as I verify that I'm attributing the next one correctly. I hope I haven't offend any cat lovers too much. -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Chartreuse Coupe II
P. J. Alling wrote: This is a bit more timeless. http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_chartreusecoupeii.html Technical Info.: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 400 @ 1/350sec (Av) smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8-5.6 AL[IF] @f4.0 (38mm) Notes: I wasn't going to post this one I actually like this one better compositionally. Nice shot and a neat car. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: New Hampshire lake
Don't know. I bought a 17 ft. model in 1998. Maybe the web has helped them gain some exposure. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: New Hampshire lake Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:19:30 -0400 Strange, when did Wenonah gain all this brand recognition? Back in the days when I was seriously into canoeing they were considered a decent mid-line boat, but reletively unknown. Recently I have heard them mentioned several times. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Tom C wrote: I like the picture. A nice point in time shot enhanced by the fish-eye. Is the canoe a Wenonah? Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: New Hampshire lake Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Way overdue for a PESO. We were away on our annual pilgrimage to the mountains and lakes of New Hampshire earlier this month. Mid-afternoon pix are naughty, I know, but the colors were especially rich. The red canoe in the foreground is our humble but beloved watercraft. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4843602 Tech stuff: ist D, FA 10-17, ISO 400, 1/150 @f/16, RAW conversion with ACR, minimal adjustment in PE4. Plaudits and brickbats welcomed. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
On 8/25/06, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's nice to see that after three weeks gone, the PDML is still the same I re-subscribed and the first messages I got were off-topic threads and a bitch session about DSLRs in Japan... It's just like coming home after vacation... :-) Speaking of vacation, here is the QD tourist shot of Sydney: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-55 The scenery looks vaguely familiar. and of course, I have to throw in a bird: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-56 Sulpher-crested Cockatoo. They were perching on the balconies of the hotel where I stayed on Hamilton Island. Cool shot. I prefer the black ones, with the red flash under their tail. Sweet sounding song those buggers have isn't it? :-) Welcome back. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
Nice stuff. I'd wouldn't mind seeing a larger sized version of the lighthouse shot. Dave On 8/25/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't posted anything (worth reading some would say) in the way of pictures for such a long time. Home reno and work commitments take precedence, but a weeks R and R to my parent's meant I could actually dust off the sensor and try and remember how to shoot a landscape. Or two. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic42.html http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic43.html Both shot with 1D and SMC K15mm f3.5 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
The only question is are there Kodak footprints for the Sydney Opera House scene? It's a classic. Ok, I have another question, do the birds actually pose for you or do you shoot them and wire them in those poses. They're just too good. Christian wrote: It's nice to see that after three weeks gone, the PDML is still the same I re-subscribed and the first messages I got were off-topic threads and a bitch session about DSLRs in Japan... It's just like coming home after vacation... :-) Speaking of vacation, here is the QD tourist shot of Sydney: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-55 and of course, I have to throw in a bird: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-56 Sulpher-crested Cockatoo. They were perching on the balconies of the hotel where I stayed on Hamilton Island. Comments always appreciated. -- -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies
One of my favorite jazz musicians. Attended a high school clinic led by him in 1976. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401836.html Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
On 25/8/06, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: Neither URL connects. Please don't make me wait long. ;) Strange. Try these: http://tinyurl.com/lqtdz and http://tinyurl.com/ph2fg -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
David Savage wrote: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-56 Sulpher-crested Cockatoo. They were perching on the balconies of the hotel where I stayed on Hamilton Island. Cool shot. I prefer the black ones, with the red flash under their tail. Sweet sounding song those buggers have isn't it? :-) Thanks! Didn't see the black ones... :-( My in-laws don't understand my fascinations with the cockatoos noisy buggers is the usual comment). The thing is, we don't have anything close to the parrots that you guys have. The only parrot species in the US went extinct in the 1800s. So traveling to Oz and seeing all the parrots (and how close you can get to them!) is an awesome experience for a bird guy like me! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies
Tom C wrote: One of my favorite jazz musicians. Attended a high school clinic led by him in 1976. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401836.html Tom C. Does anyone remember Stan Kenton's pressing of This is an Orchestra? Among other notable sections, toward the very end, Maynard did one of his famous high register excursions past hearing capability! Gave you goose bumps! 8-) keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
Thanks! Me and John James: watch 'em for a bit, kill 'em and wire 'em to a board. Oh and don't forget to include Drawn [photographed] from Nature :-) Christian http://photography.skofteland.net P. J. Alling wrote: The only question is are there Kodak footprints for the Sydney Opera House scene? It's a classic. Ok, I have another question, do the birds actually pose for you or do you shoot them and wire them in those poses. They're just too good. Christian wrote: It's nice to see that after three weeks gone, the PDML is still the same I re-subscribed and the first messages I got were off-topic threads and a bitch session about DSLRs in Japan... It's just like coming home after vacation... :-) Speaking of vacation, here is the QD tourist shot of Sydney: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-55 and of course, I have to throw in a bird: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-56 Sulpher-crested Cockatoo. They were perching on the balconies of the hotel where I stayed on Hamilton Island. Comments always appreciated. -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
On 25/8/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: It's nice to see that after three weeks gone, the PDML is still the same I re-subscribed and the first messages I got were off-topic threads and a bitch session about DSLRs in Japan... It's just like coming home after vacation... :-) Speaking of vacation, here is the QD tourist shot of Sydney: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-55 and of course, I have to throw in a bird: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-56 Sulpher-crested Cockatoo. They were perching on the balconies of the hotel where I stayed on Hamilton Island. Comments always appreciated. Crap, as always ;-) Welcome back bro. I like the opera house shot, I haven't seen that angle before. V nice mate. More please! D'you meet up with any Ozzy's hint hint? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
Cotty wrote: I haven't posted anything (worth reading some would say) in the way of pictures for such a long time. Home reno and work commitments take precedence, but a weeks R and R to my parent's meant I could actually dust off the sensor and try and remember how to shoot a landscape. Or two. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic42.html http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic43.html Both shot with 1D and SMC K15mm f3.5 Love the light house. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Chartreuse Coupe
Nice shot. The strong contrast and saturation work very well with the subject. I love the hat. A more unusual angle makes this very enjoyable. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, August 24, 2006, 11:46:23 PM, you wrote: PJA I couldn't fall asleep so I decided to post a PESO. PJA I took this last Bastille day, really beside the point but a it seems an PJA interesting tidbit. PJA Why should Stenquist have all the fun of annoying the group with classic PJA car photos. I cropped it to 8x10 as the subject seemed to centered in PJA the frame. PJA http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_chartreusecoupe.html PJA Technical Info.: PJA Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 400 @ 1/250sec (Av) PJA smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8-5.6 AL[IF] @f5.6 (113mm) PJA -- PJA Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as PJA modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the PJA same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no PJA authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their PJA material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats PJA are mean for the fun of it PJA P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW
Yes, I see what you mean. I switched to RAW a long time ago and pretty much stick to it. Unless there is a very specific reason to shoot jpg, which, for me, is fairly rare. -- Bruce Thursday, August 24, 2006, 6:22:11 PM, you wrote: RW Saturday night at GFM (the June edition) there was a RW very nice sunset, and several of us repaired to the RW top of the mountain to photograph it. I was shooting RW JPG, feeling intimidated my the perceived arcana of RW RAW conversion. RW It was a mistake. The colors came out very strangely, RW with different strangenesses depending on where I set RW the white balance. Detail wasn't very good, either. RW This shot was one of the best, and it suffered RW horribly getting compressed to a web-suitable size: RW http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4848240 RW Ist D, FA 16-45, JPG, ISO 400, 1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/11. JPG RW converted to TIFF for editing, then saved for Web in RW PE4. RW The TIFF looks a lot better than the displayed JPG, RW but even the original JPG was disappointing. And that RW is why I now shoot RAW. RW Rick RW http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW RW __ RW Do You Yahoo!? RW Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around RW http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Munich Street at Dusk
Much better. I like this one. What really makes it interesting is the narrow street lined with cars, the cyclist and the oncoming car. Makes you wonder just how well everything is going to fit and who is going to give in (game of chicken). Nice shot! -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, August 24, 2006, 6:32:28 PM, you wrote: RW This one, I'm happy with. Taken at dusk in Munich. RW http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4848253 RW Ist D, FA 16-45, ISO 1600, f/4 @ 1/30. RAW file RW converted to DNG with ACR with minimal adjustment, RW then saved for web. RW Comments, plaudits, brickbats welcomed. RW Rick RW http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW RW __ RW Do You Yahoo!? RW Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around RW http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS Friday: several Pentax lenses (and an AF body)
On 25/8/06, Carlos Royo, discombobulated, unleashed: SMC Pentax-A 15 mm. 3.5, , an excellent ultra wide lens, compatible in all exposure modes with Pentax DSLRs, LN- 500 euros. If you don't sell this lens, any Euro-listers who don't have one and are reading this must be mad. I have the K version and it is amongst the top half dozen best Pentax lenses ever made. 500 euros, that's about 330. I am sorely tempted just to have another. (put the commission in the post as usual Carlos ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
On 25/8/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I'd enjoy seeing a larger rendering! Let me have your address. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
Thanks all. Will put up larger files later. What - to fill a 1024X768 screen? Leave it with me -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Another kind of northern light
Somehow, this comes across as too busy without anything to really pull my attention. I just find my eyes wandering around in the frame with no place to land. -- Bruce Friday, August 25, 2006, 6:13:22 AM, you wrote: MD A summer memory: Deciduous forest (backlit) MD http://folk.uio.no/mdahl/Deciduous.html MD Pentax *ist DS, 50-200mm @ 50mm, 1/60, f6.7 MD Best regards, MD Morten -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
On Aug 25, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Christian wrote: ... The thing is, we don't have anything close to the parrots that you guys have. The only parrot species in the US went extinct in the 1800s. ... I'm sure they're imports, but there is a colony of wild parrots living in the city of Cupertino, CA where I used to live and work. They had a nest in the tree outside my office window for a year or two. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
Hello Cotty, Neither one just jumped out and made me go 'wow!', but as I looked further, they really started to grow on me. The first, I really appreciate the issues with that kind of lighting (having my own similar shots that look pretty bad). Very tough to show the details that you have in that one. I would have loved to see a few more shots of this one - slightly different perspectives and focal lengths. The second has such a strong sky - it is very good. I appreciate your sharing with us. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, August 25, 2006, 6:52:01 AM, you wrote: C I haven't posted anything (worth reading some would say) in the way of C pictures for such a long time. Home reno and work commitments take C precedence, but a weeks R and R to my parent's meant I could actually C dust off the sensor and try and remember how to shoot a landscape. Or two. C http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic42.html C http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic43.html C Both shot with 1D and SMC K15mm f3.5 C -- C Cheers, C Cotty C ___/\__ C || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche C ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com C _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Men with cameras: Canon
Somehow this photo is amusing to me. I think because of the cap keeper with the lens cap hanging down just so. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, August 25, 2006, 4:35:56 AM, you wrote: R http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060825142318 R First I'd noticed him photographing me, so I contra photographed him. R Will seek for other men with cameras in my archives to have one huge set R of various photo gears I saw this summer. Somehow women seem to like R Sony alpha so much. I remember having as least 3 of em using alpha, but R I only had seen one guy with Pentax *istD(S) for entire summer period here. R -- R home http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Turbulent age
--- K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, Sony brand should be really at work here. I agree... In fact in most respects the Minolta 5D was a better camera than the Alpha, but it did not have the Sony name and also the 10 MP figure which attracts customers (it was after all the first 10 MP camera in its class, albeit by a small margin). Notice that Canon have updated the Rebel to 10 MP when the 30D and 1D Mk II N are still 8 MP, this shows that in their mind the people who care most about pixel count are consumers buying the entry-level models (aside from pros who use top-end cameras like 1Ds MK II and who buy top-end glass to take advantage of all those pixels). Overwhelming market domination by big 2 is not only unhealthy but deterimental to us all, the consumers. I agree! I am glad to see Nikon doing so well now as well, for a while it was beginning to look as though Canon would become the ONLY significant player in the market. Doug __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
Two good ones. I especially like the bird with the backglow. -- Original message -- From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's nice to see that after three weeks gone, the PDML is still the same I re-subscribed and the first messages I got were off-topic threads and a bitch session about DSLRs in Japan... It's just like coming home after vacation... :-) Speaking of vacation, here is the QD tourist shot of Sydney: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-55 and of course, I have to throw in a bird: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-56 Sulpher-crested Cockatoo. They were perching on the balconies of the hotel where I stayed on Hamilton Island. Comments always appreciated. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
Cotty wrote: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-55 and of course, I have to throw in a bird: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-56 Crap, as always ;-) I take back what I said about your lighthouse picture. It's shite! :-P Welcome back bro. Gee thanks... More please! I got about 1000 frames to process. D'you meet up with any Ozzy's hint hint? Lots of 'em... the country is crawling with 'em. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
Nice portrait of the Cockatoo. Love the background color - it really works well with the bird. As to the first, I think I've seen that same picture somewhere before grin. Welcome back. Not only the same threads, but the same participants. -- Bruce Friday, August 25, 2006, 8:54:16 AM, you wrote: C It's nice to see that after three weeks gone, the PDML is still the C same I re-subscribed and the first messages I got were off-topic C threads and a bitch session about DSLRs in Japan... It's just like C coming home after vacation... :-) C Speaking of vacation, here is the QD tourist shot of Sydney: C http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-55 C and of course, I have to throw in a bird: C http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-56 C Sulpher-crested Cockatoo. They were perching on the balconies of the C hotel where I stayed on Hamilton Island. C Comments always appreciated. C -- C Christian C http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Chartreuse Coupe II
It is a nice angle on the car but, the background is rather busy and it looks to frozen - not sure if it is just parked or driving along. The driver position seems to indicate movement, but the image does not. Also the saturation and contrast are a lot lower in this one. I like the first better. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, August 25, 2006, 9:03:39 AM, you wrote: PJA This is a bit more timeless. PJA http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_chartreusecoupeii.html PJA Technical Info.: PJA Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 400 @ 1/350sec (Av) PJA smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8-5.6 AL[IF] @f4.0 (38mm) PJA Notes: PJA I wasn't going to post this one the focus was a bit off. It needs to be PJA a bit in front of the driver to get the entire car in acceptable focus PJA while rendering the background as sharp as possible for what I wanted to PJA achieve , and even though the car wasn't moving very fast there's PJA apparent motion blur in the taillights at full resolution. However I PJA touched it up a bit and the problems aren't as noticeable at web resolution. PJA As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. PJA The cat sig is coming down as soon as I verify that I'm attributing the PJA next one correctly. I hope I haven't offend any cat lovers too much. PJA -- PJA Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as PJA modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the PJA same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no PJA authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their PJA material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats PJA are mean for the fun of it PJA P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW
On 25/8/06, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, I see what you mean. I switched to RAW a long time ago and pretty much stick to it. Unless there is a very specific reason to shoot jpg, which, for me, is fairly rare. Dare I say it, I shoot mostly RAW now as well. Keep it quiet. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies
I've never heard it. I have a couple CD's of Maynard's 50's big bands which I enjoy. I'll have to look for it. Thanks. I really loved his versions of McArthur Park, Chameleon, Primal Scream and Living for the City. Hollywood, around 1983, was a very good album. It seems to be unavailable in the USA but I found it on CD at amazon.uk. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:41:51 -0700 Tom C wrote: One of my favorite jazz musicians. Attended a high school clinic led by him in 1976. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401836.html Tom C. Does anyone remember Stan Kenton's pressing of This is an Orchestra? Among other notable sections, toward the very end, Maynard did one of his famous high register excursions past hearing capability! Gave you goose bumps! 8-) keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies
Hello Tom, That is sad news, indeed. He was my favorite trumpeter and I listen to him regularly. I was fortunate to attend a jass concert to see him and his band when I was in high school. My son recently started the trumpet and I have been flooding him with Maynard's music. Thanks for letting me know. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, August 25, 2006, 9:20:53 AM, you wrote: TC One of my favorite jazz musicians. Attended a high school clinic led by him TC in 1976. TC http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401836.html TC Tom C. TC I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or TC numbered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Great paper on Colour Management
Nicely done. Godfrey On Aug 25, 2006, at 7:21 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: I just stumbled across a great little paper on colour management which covers all areas of interest to digital photographers, I hope that you find it of benefit. COLOUR MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP NOTES 2005 Copyright Les Walkling 2005 Version 2005:6 http://media-arts.rmit.edu.au/Les_Walkling/ Colour_Management_Notes.pdf#search=%22Epson%207600%22 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
On 8/26/06, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage wrote: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-56 Sulpher-crested Cockatoo. They were perching on the balconies of the hotel where I stayed on Hamilton Island. Cool shot. I prefer the black ones, with the red flash under their tail. Sweet sounding song those buggers have isn't it? :-) Thanks! Didn't see the black ones... :-( My in-laws don't understand my fascinations with the cockatoos noisy buggers is the usual comment). Farmers really don't like them. I was staying at the farm of a friend of the family, sleeping in a tent in their backyard, when I was woken by the blast of a shotgun squawking Cockatoos. That was quite a shock. :-) The thing is, we don't have anything close to the parrots that you guys have. The only parrot species in the US went extinct in the 1800s. So traveling to Oz and seeing all the parrots (and how close you can get to them!) is an awesome experience for a bird guy like me! I imagine it would be. They're not very afraid of people, especially at the tourist spots. Very smart too make good pets (Although the common 2x2x2 foot cage isn't very humane) Around here in late spring, when the native trees are in flower, we get flocks of Sulphur-Crested Cockatoos, plain Black Cockatoos Pink Grey Galahs. They descend on a tree and bite off all the flowers move on. It gets quite noisy early in the morning late at night, and this is in the suburbs. Sound's like you had fun. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
A couple of parakeets have been living outside one of the Ford buildings in Dearborn, Michigan for several years. I think they survive the winters by staying tucked in a corner of the brickwork when the weather is frigid Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 25, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Christian wrote: ... The thing is, we don't have anything close to the parrots that you guys have. The only parrot species in the US went extinct in the 1800s. ... I'm sure they're imports, but there is a colony of wild parrots living in the city of Cupertino, CA where I used to live and work. They had a nest in the tree outside my office window for a year or two. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
On 25/8/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: D'you meet up with any Ozzy's hint hint? Lots of 'em... the country is crawling with 'em. Any with a ponytail? ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
On 25/8/06, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: Neither one just jumped out and made me go 'wow!', but as I looked further, they really started to grow on me. The first, I really appreciate the issues with that kind of lighting (having my own similar shots that look pretty bad). Very tough to show the details that you have in that one. I would have loved to see a few more shots of this one - slightly different perspectives and focal lengths. The second has such a strong sky - it is very good. I appreciate your sharing with us. Thanks Bruce. Yeah, the lighthouse was shot perched on a steep drop, right on the cliff face, where 445 steps take you to the bottom (my lad counted them on the way back up). Seadied on a rock, right into the sun which is just out of frame a third the way in on the left. Assistant flagged the lens, although she doesn't like being called that. Because of the inaccessibility, there are no other vantage points unless lower, but I wasn't happy with the angle. As for focal lengths, I had some different lengths with me but once I see something in my head I tend not to shoot it like that. I see an image in my mind, and then bung on the right lens to achieve that on...I nearly said film...er, digitally. The only thing I thought of was a close shot of the lighthouse but the light was all wrong for that and balls to it. As I reached the top of the cliff, this was the sight that greeted me, and it impressed me the most. Everything else I saw was a 'co-star' and so I made a pic of that initial impression. Everyone who commented that it is not big enough is absolutely right - but to be honest looking at these things on a computer monitor is a load of tosh anyway. The real thing is the print. At A3 the lighthouse is pretty decent. If y'all wanna pop round and have a look, I'll get the kettle on. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Aug 25, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Christian wrote: ... The thing is, we don't have anything close to the parrots that you guys have. The only parrot species in the US went extinct in the 1800s. ... I'm sure they're imports, but there is a colony of wild parrots living in the city of Cupertino, CA where I used to live and work. They had a nest in the tree outside my office window for a year or two. :-) I understand there are also escapees living in areas of Florida. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Grip for JIS crosspoint screwdriver?
Someone managed to drop a camera with my F70-210/4-5.6 attached. Camera and lens appear to be fine, except that the zoom is stuck at 70mm. Although the optimist in me says that I did not lose a zoom but gained a prime, I'd still like to try my hand at repairing it. This may help. http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/70-210.htm NOTE: REMOVE THE INFORMATION BRUSH before disassembly! The mount screws are firmly in place, so I guess I need a JIS screwdriver. Www.micro-tools.com has these as what appears to be a blade only. I have this JIS Type S Driver Set and recommend it. https://www.micro-tools.com/store/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=58-0318 Powell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies
Hi Bruce. The clinic I attended was a band competition. The two best Stage Bands got to play a couple of songs in concert with Maynard's band that evening. Our's was one of them. I also saw him in Denver in 1986. Cool that your son is playing trumpet, Bet your house is noisy! That's what I play, now just for my own personal pleasure and to make the Border Collie sing. You may know of these... I only found it a couple of years ago. Yamaha makes an electronic mute with headphones. When playing, there's little backpressure compared to a regular mute, and the sound through the headphones sounds like no mute is being used. Nice for late night practicing. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:17:25 -0700 Hello Tom, That is sad news, indeed. He was my favorite trumpeter and I listen to him regularly. I was fortunate to attend a jass concert to see him and his band when I was in high school. My son recently started the trumpet and I have been flooding him with Maynard's music. Thanks for letting me know. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, August 25, 2006, 9:20:53 AM, you wrote: TC One of my favorite jazz musicians. Attended a high school clinic led by him TC in 1976. TC http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401836.html TC Tom C. TC I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or TC numbered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW
Cotty wrote: On 25/8/06, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, I see what you mean. I switched to RAW a long time ago and pretty much stick to it. Unless there is a very specific reason to shoot jpg, which, for me, is fairly rare. Dare I say it, I shoot mostly RAW now as well. Keep it quiet. Do you mean RAW or in the raw? No wait a minute, I really don't NEED to know. -- -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
Nice picture of the harbor in Sydney with the boats. Pictures of Sydney always remind me of Vancouver, BC. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:54:16 -0400 It's nice to see that after three weeks gone, the PDML is still the same I re-subscribed and the first messages I got were off-topic threads and a bitch session about DSLRs in Japan... It's just like coming home after vacation... :-) Speaking of vacation, here is the QD tourist shot of Sydney: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-55 and of course, I have to throw in a bird: http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-56 Sulpher-crested Cockatoo. They were perching on the balconies of the hotel where I stayed on Hamilton Island. Comments always appreciated. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
Thanks, Cotty. Extremely nice composition on both. I've chased many a lighthouse. Obviously, #2 a great sky. Jack --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/8/06, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: Neither URL connects. Please don't make me wait long. ;) Strange. Try these: http://tinyurl.com/lqtdz and http://tinyurl.com/ph2fg -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Political Statement?
I like it Doug It says something to me. I understand it says something to others too and frankly, I don't care what it might say to them. :) CW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: PESO - Political Statement? I hesitated on this one, for obvious reasons. In the end I just found it, um, interesting... Spotted on the way to GFM last week, and taken on the way back. http://www.alphoto.com/images/trespass.jpg rare tech info: istD, 12-24/4 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/426 - Release Date: 8/23/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW
On 8/26/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/8/06, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, I see what you mean. I switched to RAW a long time ago and pretty much stick to it. Unless there is a very specific reason to shoot jpg, which, for me, is fairly rare. Dare I say it, I shoot mostly RAW now as well. Keep it quiet. What have you done with the real Cotty?!? Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS Friday: several Pentax lenses (and an AF body)
Damn you Cotty, I was waiting for him to lower the price... Cotty wrote: On 25/8/06, Carlos Royo, discombobulated, unleashed: SMC Pentax-A 15 mm. 3.5, , an excellent ultra wide lens, compatible in all exposure modes with Pentax DSLRs, LN- 500 euros. If you don't sell this lens, any Euro-listers who don't have one and are reading this must be mad. I have the K version and it is amongst the top half dozen best Pentax lenses ever made. 500 euros, that's about 330. I am sorely tempted just to have another. (put the commission in the post as usual Carlos ;-) -- -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
On Aug 25, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Cotty wrote: ... Everyone who commented that it is not big enough is absolutely right - but to be honest looking at these things on a computer monitor is a load of tosh anyway. The real thing is the print. At A3 the lighthouse is pretty decent. If y'all wanna pop round and have a look, I'll get the kettle on. See you between September 26 and October 17 sometime ... :-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
Cotty wrote: On 25/8/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: D'you meet up with any Ozzy's hint hint? Lots of 'em... the country is crawling with 'em. Any with a ponytail? ;-) Oh yeah... that guy We saw Rob, Geraldine and the baby for a bit on our last day in Sydney. Unfortunately it was a very brief visit. Next time, we've decided that our stay in Sydney will be longer. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies
Good to note about the mute. I had never heard of it. If the noise gets to be too much I may have to investigate. So far, it is fine. That must have been so cool to work with Maynard's band like that. -- Bruce Friday, August 25, 2006, 10:30:55 AM, you wrote: TC Hi Bruce. TC The clinic I attended was a band competition. The two best Stage Bands got TC to play a couple of songs in concert with Maynard's band that evening. TC Our's was one of them. I also saw him in Denver in 1986. TC Cool that your son is playing trumpet, Bet your house is noisy! That's what TC I play, now just for my own personal pleasure and to make the Border Collie TC sing. TC You may know of these... I only found it a couple of years ago. Yamaha TC makes an electronic mute with headphones. When playing, there's little TC backpressure compared to a regular mute, and the sound through the TC headphones sounds like no mute is being used. Nice for late night TC practicing. TC Tom C. TC I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or TC numbered. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:17:25 -0700 Hello Tom, That is sad news, indeed. He was my favorite trumpeter and I listen to him regularly. I was fortunate to attend a jass concert to see him and his band when I was in high school. My son recently started the trumpet and I have been flooding him with Maynard's music. Thanks for letting me know. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, August 25, 2006, 9:20:53 AM, you wrote: TC One of my favorite jazz musicians. Attended a high school clinic led by him TC in 1976. TC http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401836.html TC Tom C. TC I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or TC numbered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW
On 25/8/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Do you mean RAW or in the raw? No wait a minute, I really don't NEED to know. Pete the perve. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW
Dare I say it, I shoot mostly RAW now as well. Keep it quiet. On 26/8/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: What have you done with the real Cotty?!? Yeah well, I finally got around to it. To be honest it's not the panacea that some think it is, but to be sure, there's much more available in the shadows than with jpeg. I'm finding blown highlights are in fact blown highlights no matter what you shoot. Resolution-wise it's negligible. Well, printed up to A3 on my printer at any rate. But yeah, RAW is pretty kool. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies
Yeah it was pretty neat. :-) Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:43:50 -0700 Good to note about the mute. I had never heard of it. If the noise gets to be too much I may have to investigate. So far, it is fine. That must have been so cool to work with Maynard's band like that. -- Bruce Friday, August 25, 2006, 10:30:55 AM, you wrote: TC Hi Bruce. TC The clinic I attended was a band competition. The two best Stage Bands got TC to play a couple of songs in concert with Maynard's band that evening. TC Our's was one of them. I also saw him in Denver in 1986. TC Cool that your son is playing trumpet, Bet your house is noisy! That's what TC I play, now just for my own personal pleasure and to make the Border Collie TC sing. TC You may know of these... I only found it a couple of years ago. Yamaha TC makes an electronic mute with headphones. When playing, there's little TC backpressure compared to a regular mute, and the sound through the TC headphones sounds like no mute is being used. Nice for late night TC practicing. TC Tom C. TC I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or TC numbered. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:17:25 -0700 Hello Tom, That is sad news, indeed. He was my favorite trumpeter and I listen to him regularly. I was fortunate to attend a jass concert to see him and his band when I was in high school. My son recently started the trumpet and I have been flooding him with Maynard's music. Thanks for letting me know. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, August 25, 2006, 9:20:53 AM, you wrote: TC One of my favorite jazz musicians. Attended a high school clinic led by him TC in 1976. TC http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/24/AR2006082401836.html TC Tom C. TC I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or TC numbered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW
I suppose, it's a hobby. Cotty wrote: On 25/8/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Do you mean RAW or in the raw? No wait a minute, I really don't NEED to know. Pete the perve. -- -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - On More's Creek
Taken this morning on the way to work. Another water abstract. Columnar Basalt lava cliffs reflecting in the water of More's Creek. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4850427 Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Pt Arena Light
Cotty's offering made me want to join in, so here's the only one I'll bother you all with..for now. Taken last summer (a coastal retreat from the valley heat) at Pt. Arena on central California coast. This is largely a record of the 'prox perspective I plan to use some future early evening. Like to have the tide out, I think, to expose more shoals and help with a placid surf to reflect a sunset. That's all. :) Jack Comments welcome! http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=176 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Back from Oz and 2 PESOs
Bruce Dayton wrote: Nice portrait of the Cockatoo. Love the background color - it really works well with the bird. and [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two good ones. I especially like the bird with the backglow. Thanks, Paul and Bruce! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Pt Arena Light
I like it. Jack Davis wrote: Cotty's offering made me want to join in, so here's the only one I'll bother you all with..for now. Taken last summer (a coastal retreat from the valley heat) at Pt. Arena on central California coast. This is largely a record of the 'prox perspective I plan to use some future early evening. Like to have the tide out, I think, to expose more shoals and help with a placid surf to reflect a sunset. That's all. :) Jack Comments welcome! http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=176 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it P. J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: GFM Sunset, or Why I Switched to RAW
Cotty wrote: Dare I say it, I shoot mostly RAW now as well. Keep it quiet. On 26/8/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: What have you done with the real Cotty?!? Yeah well, I finally got around to it. To be honest it's not the panacea that some think it is, but to be sure, there's much more available in the shadows than with jpeg. I'm finding blown highlights are in fact blown highlights no matter what you shoot. Resolution-wise it's negligible. Well, printed up to A3 on my printer at any rate. But yeah, RAW is pretty kool. With the Pentax's, you've usually got about 1 stop of overhead between blown highlights on the JPEG and on the RAW, Nikon's about the same (at least with the D50) although most Nikon's underexpose a bit to preserve JPEG highlights. Canon may not be giving you that extra headroom (As it's purely in the JPEG rendering engine). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Very Very OT - Maynard Ferguson Jazz Trumpeter Dies
Tom C wrote: I've never heard it. I have a couple CD's of Maynard's 50's big bands which I enjoy. I'll have to look for it. Thanks. I really loved his versions of McArthur Park, Chameleon, Primal Scream and Living for the City. Hollywood, around 1983, was a very good album. It seems to be unavailable in the USA but I found it on CD at amazon.uk. Tom C. I'll keep this short, but... This is an Orchestra is a sub-title. The record itself is titled Stan Kenton - Prologue. Capitol records # EASF-386, 45 rpm. In this record, he takes each section of his orchestra and highlights small examples of what each instrument contributes to the total, one by one. On the album cover, Stan says: With high regard and respect for each other's individuality...a group of personalities can make music wide in scope-- from tender, soft sounds to screaming, crashing dissonance. . . . This is an orchestra! This soliloquy is spoken at the very end of side two, and is accompanied by the full orchestra to carefully emphasize his words, which he speaks louder and louder, to be heard above the instruments' growing crescendo... Guess who gets to add the ...screaming, crashing dissonance to highlight the phrase? Good ol' Maynard, of course... As a one time musician, and contemporary of Maynards, I grew up with him in my ears! He'll be missed. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
Super dooper. Great clouds in the second shot. John On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:52:01 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't posted anything (worth reading some would say) in the way of pictures for such a long time. Home reno and work commitments take precedence, but a weeks R and R to my parent's meant I could actually dust off the sensor and try and remember how to shoot a landscape. Or two. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic42.html http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic43.html Both shot with 1D and SMC K15mm f3.5 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Grip for JIS crosspoint screwdriver?
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:31:04 +0200, Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone managed to drop a camera with my F70-210/4-5.6 attached. Camera and lens appear to be fine, except that the zoom is stuck at 70mm. Although the optimist in me says that I did not lose a zoom but gained a prime, I'd still like to try my hand at repairing it. This may help. http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/70-210.htm NOTE: REMOVE THE INFORMATION BRUSH before disassembly! Ah, it thats yours? It's one of my bookmarks :o) It helped tremendouly when I recently disassembled a FA28-70/4, so thanks for maintaining it! Now that we're at it: is there any way to remove the focussing ring on an F lens? There seem to be slots for a screwdriver, but I'm hesitant to use force... The FA had a different construction here. The mount screws are firmly in place, so I guess I need a JIS screwdriver. Www.micro-tools.com has these as what appears to be a blade only. I have this JIS Type S Driver Set and recommend it. https://www.micro-tools.com/store/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=58-0318 Thanks. Micro-tools and micro-tools europe seem to have a different catalogue. The US site does ship to Germany (where the european part is located), but not to the Netherlands. Strange... -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Pt Arena Light
It's a bit soft. Needs more USM. ;-) Seriously though, it's a nice calming scene that makes me recall the smell the sea. Dave On 8/26/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty's offering made me want to join in, so here's the only one I'll bother you all with..for now. Taken last summer (a coastal retreat from the valley heat) at Pt. Arena on central California coast. This is largely a record of the 'prox perspective I plan to use some future early evening. Like to have the tide out, I think, to expose more shoals and help with a placid surf to reflect a sunset. That's all. :) Jack Comments welcome! http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=176 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Grip for JIS crosspoint screwdriver?
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:36:50 +0200, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a replacement tip for a screwdriver set. Moody makes all kinds of drivers. You might want to check their website: http://www.moodytools.com/ Thank you (and David). Is it me, or does their site not work? I tried two PC's and three browsers... -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Grip for JIS crosspoint screwdriver?
Woks fine for me on Firefox v1.5.0.6. Dave On 8/26/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:36:50 +0200, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a replacement tip for a screwdriver set. Moody makes all kinds of drivers. You might want to check their website: http://www.moodytools.com/ Thank you (and David). Is it me, or does their site not work? I tried two PC's and three browsers... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Landscapes Qty 2
Cotty wrote: I haven't posted anything (worth reading some would say) in the way of pictures for such a long time. Home reno and work commitments take precedence, but a weeks R and R to my parent's meant I could actually dust off the sensor and try and remember how to shoot a landscape. Or two. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic42.html Looks familiar: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/s_stack.jpg -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Full Frame/Canon
If the problem is the sensor, there is not much you can do about it with lens design. However, since SLR UWA lenses are extreme retrofocus lenses the light coming out the back side is not at the extreme angles that it is from a normal UWA. But it's still more extreme than with longer lenses, isn't it? The conventional wisdom is of course that digital sensors are more sensitive to those angles than film, of course... But I don't know a lot about it, or even care. I was just trying to point out that it seemed unfair to draw conclusions about lenses in general based on the behaviour of wide-angles. - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Pt Arena Light
The jury's out on this one. Definitely a pleasing composition. Other than that though... this particular shot does not grab me. What you have in mind for the future with the pinks, reds, and oranges of a sunset would be nice. The lighthouse... It's so small I'm sort of bugged by it being there. My own personal opinion of course. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Pt Arena Light Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Cotty's offering made me want to join in, so here's the only one I'll bother you all with..for now. Taken last summer (a coastal retreat from the valley heat) at Pt. Arena on central California coast. This is largely a record of the 'prox perspective I plan to use some future early evening. Like to have the tide out, I think, to expose more shoals and help with a placid surf to reflect a sunset. That's all. :) Jack Comments welcome! http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=176 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
