Re: PESO - Another Cormorant
Interesting, although the bugs are a distraction. You could clone them out. Just pretend you're cleaning up a film scan:-). Paul On Oct 4, 2006, at 4:36 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from the shore yesterday). But this fella had come back to it's regular spot. I was shooting almost directly into the sun. Kind of boring, but I felt like playing with levels, and out came this, http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261ref=author with rusty look. The specks are bugs in the air. I can't explain why, but I like it. It is what I see when I see a cormorant. Something out of space and time, something that has been here for ever. BTW. The enablement is a M 500/4,5 Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Apart from anything else, our email addresses are no longer private. Given that anyone can subscribe to the list, they never were private. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
On 03.10.2006, at 17:16 , Boris Liberman wrote: Which, just by the way, means that people who shoot other brands will have easy access to Pentax lenses *and coatings*. Other brands won't have weather sealings and ultrasonic AF in these new Tokinas ;-) And Tokina will have their own coatings (they have used glass and coatings from Hoya since they become part of this company). THEY won't get our precious! ;-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
True, but the shots of the old Pentax concept cameras were ripped straight from DPR. Dave On 10/4/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of the images I saw on Pentax Life were Pentax PR pics that were also used on DPreview but were not exclusively theirs. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
On 2006-09-29 14:25, Juan Buhler wrote: Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). He should take a compact camera instead. What's the use of having exchangable lenses, when you don't want to exchange them. Get a decent Sony etc. instead... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW (DNG) and white balance question
On Oct 4, 2006, at 5:47 AM, Gonz wrote: I downloaded ACR 3.5 and I still see the strange tint. Its almost as if the Pentax software is writing the DNG incorrectly. Why not just adjust the white balance until it is correct and never mind what color temperature the RAW converter wants to report? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Another Cormorant
Nice shot, I like the light. Unfortunately, the bugs in the air look like dust specks on a slide. Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from the shore yesterday). But this fella had come back to it's regular spot. I was shooting almost directly into the sun. Kind of boring, but I felt like playing with levels, and out came this, http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261ref=author with rusty look. The specks are bugs in the air. I can't explain why, but I like it. It is what I see when I see a cormorant. Something out of space and time, something that has been here for ever. BTW. The enablement is a M 500/4,5 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
But they originally came from Pentax as well. They're PR pics. Anyone can use them. Paul On Oct 4, 2006, at 6:18 AM, David Savage wrote: True, but the shots of the old Pentax concept cameras were ripped straight from DPR. Dave On 10/4/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of the images I saw on Pentax Life were Pentax PR pics that were also used on DPreview but were not exclusively theirs. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Another Cormorant
Thanks Dave. The light was pretty different from what you see here, but it was stunning. About the bugs, please see my reply to Paul. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mann Sent: 4. oktober 2006 11:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Another Cormorant On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261ref=author Stunning light. Pity about the bugs, but I guess you gotta take the ugly nature with the pretty nature :) - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
Since the PDML archives are searchable anonymously by the public, this is in fact a public forum. Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 3:01 AM, John Coyle wrote: Shel, if you go to http://www.publicdomainregistry.com/whois/ and enter the domain name you will find it is published by a guy in Russia. He obviously sources material from this list as well as others - is that an OK thing to do? I'd be a little uncomfortable at being quoted without being asked - this is not a public forum, after all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Another Cormorant
Thanks for looking Paul. I do see your point about the bugs. In fact I did clone some out. Those I did found distracting. The rest for some strange reason corresponds with an odd idea I have about the bird. I'm not able to communicate this idea in words, if the picture fails too, then I'm mute ;-) I can live with that. I can even clone out some more bugs (if thats what it takes). Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 4. oktober 2006 12:09 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Another Cormorant Interesting, although the bugs are a distraction. You could clone them out. Just pretend you're cleaning up a film scan:-). Paul On Oct 4, 2006, at 4:36 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from the shore yesterday). But this fella had come back to it's regular spot. I was shooting almost directly into the sun. Kind of boring, but I felt like playing with levels, and out came this, http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261ref=author with rusty look. The specks are bugs in the air. I can't explain why, but I like it. It is what I see when I see a cormorant. Something out of space and time, something that has been here for ever. BTW. The enablement is a M 500/4,5 Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger noun 1 [with adj. ] a contemptible or pitied person, typically a man. - a person with a particular negative quality or characteristic. - used as a term of affection or respect, typically grudgingly : all right, let the little buggers come in. 2 derogatory a person who commits buggery. verb [ trans. ] penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. exclamation used to express annoyance or anger. PHRASAL VERBS bugger off [usu. in imperative ] go away. ORIGIN Middle English (originally denoting a heretic, specifically an Albigensian): from Middle Dutch, from Old French bougre, originally in the sense ‘heretic,’ from medieval Latin Bulgarus ‘Bulgarian,’ particularly one belonging to the Orthodox Church and therefore regarded as a heretic by the Roman Church. The sense [sodomite] (16th cent.) arose from an association of heresy with forbidden sexual practices; its use as a general insult dates from the early 18th cent. Compare with Bulgar. --- Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 3. oktober 2006 21:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 3. oktober 2006 21:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Another Cormorant
Hi! Tim, I don't feel or think of anything in particular when I look at the picture. I just see a bird most probably in bird's natural habitat... I could probably think of something related to freedom but I must tell you it would mean I was really pullin' it. Like I said - I see an interesting picture of interesting animal. Sorry, if that's not what you intended. On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B/W? Could be worth a try. Thanks ;-) But I do wonder, does the idea get across? -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Another Cormorant
Thanks Godfrey. There is a massive critique against the bugs. Maybe I should rethink about them? ;-) The light is not natural. It is what I saw when playing with the file. Something beyond reality, and for some reason my vision included bugs ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 4. oktober 2006 12:38 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Another Cormorant Nice shot, I like the light. Unfortunately, the bugs in the air look like dust specks on a slide. Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from the shore yesterday). But this fella had come back to it's regular spot. I was shooting almost directly into the sun. Kind of boring, but I felt like playing with levels, and out came this, http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261ref=author with rusty look. The specks are bugs in the air. I can't explain why, but I like it. It is what I see when I see a cormorant. Something out of space and time, something that has been here for ever. BTW. The enablement is a M 500/4,5 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
Hi! Which, just by the way, means that people who shoot other brands will have easy access to Pentax lenses *and coatings*. Other brands won't have weather sealings and ultrasonic AF in these new Tokinas ;-) And Tokina will have their own coatings (they have used glass and coatings from Hoya since they become part of this company). THEY won't get our precious! ;-) Sylwek, according to what I read on the net, they will get same coatings as Pentax lenses. But then again, internet is very much a rumour petri dish, so that I naturally digress. As usual, let us just wait and see what turns out when the lenses (both Tokina and Pentax) come out. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
Lots of companies use Hoya glass, even Leica. I'm sure Pentax is using Hoya glass where appropriate. Shel [Original Message] From: Sylwester Pietrzyk Other brands won't have weather sealings and ultrasonic AF in these new Tokinas ;-) And Tokina will have their own coatings (they have used glass and coatings from Hoya since they become part of this company). THEY won't get our precious! ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Another Cormorant
You are not the one to blame if it's not what I intended ;-) So, no reason to be sorry. Thanks Boris, appreciated. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 4. oktober 2006 12:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Another Cormorant Hi! Tim, I don't feel or think of anything in particular when I look at the picture. I just see a bird most probably in bird's natural habitat... I could probably think of something related to freedom but I must tell you it would mean I was really pullin' it. Like I said - I see an interesting picture of interesting animal. Sorry, if that's not what you intended. On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B/W? Could be worth a try. Thanks ;-) But I do wonder, does the idea get across? -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
I suppose I was over reacting. Privacy is a very big issue with me. Shel [Original Message] From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 10/4/2006 5:13:11 AM Subject: Re: Pentax Life On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Apart from anything else, our email addresses are no longer private. Given that anyone can subscribe to the list, they never were private. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
I'm not too sure of that. If Pentax were going to distribute photos I doubt they would have been taken through the display case at their Photokina stand. Also, I just went and had a look at the PentaxLife site. Since I first mentioned this a week or so ago he seems to have taken the pictures, down and put a link to the DPreview page. Cheers, Dave On 10/4/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they originally came from Pentax as well. They're PR pics. Anyone can use them. Paul On Oct 4, 2006, at 6:18 AM, David Savage wrote: True, but the shots of the old Pentax concept cameras were ripped straight from DPR. Dave On 10/4/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of the images I saw on Pentax Life were Pentax PR pics that were also used on DPreview but were not exclusively theirs. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
It's pretty mild language here. I tend to utter it when something stuffs up. An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite heavily: http://www.videofoundry.co.nz/ianman/humour/bugger.html From what I've read it received 100+ official complaints in NZ and 1 here in Oz. I guess there are more prudes in New Zealand ;-) Dave On 10/4/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Another Cormorant
Oh, by the way, the bugs absolutely don't bug me. On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are not the one to blame if it's not what I intended ;-) So, no reason to be sorry. Thanks Boris, appreciated. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 4. oktober 2006 12:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Another Cormorant Hi! Tim, I don't feel or think of anything in particular when I look at the picture. I just see a bird most probably in bird's natural habitat... I could probably think of something related to freedom but I must tell you it would mean I was really pullin' it. Like I said - I see an interesting picture of interesting animal. Sorry, if that's not what you intended. On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B/W? Could be worth a try. Thanks ;-) But I do wonder, does the idea get across? -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
Thanks Godfrey. There are so many words that are not proper. Sometimes I wonder what a list of proper words would look. How many entries? 20? Hopefully a bit more, but you get my point. To bug somebody is being a nuisance. I get that. And being a nuisance is also described as being an ass. I guess thats the connection. Never the less, avoiding all bad words makes the language so limited. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 4. oktober 2006 12:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger noun 1 [with adj. ] a contemptible or pitied person, typically a man. - a person with a particular negative quality or characteristic. - used as a term of affection or respect, typically grudgingly : all right, let the little buggers come in. 2 derogatory a person who commits buggery. verb [ trans. ] penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. exclamation used to express annoyance or anger. PHRASAL VERBS bugger off [usu. in imperative ] go away. ORIGIN Middle English (originally denoting a heretic, specifically an Albigensian): from Middle Dutch, from Old French bougre, originally in the sense heretic, from medieval Latin Bulgarus Bulgarian, particularly one belonging to the Orthodox Church and therefore regarded as a heretic by the Roman Church. The sense [sodomite] (16th cent.) arose from an association of heresy with forbidden sexual practices; its use as a general insult dates from the early 18th cent. Compare with Bulgar. --- Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 3. oktober 2006 21:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
On 04.10.2006, at 12:56 , Shel Belinkoff wrote: Lots of companies use Hoya glass, even Leica. I'm sure Pentax is using Hoya glass where appropriate. But SMC is Pentax own, isn't it? ;-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
On 04/10/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04.10.2006, at 12:56 , Shel Belinkoff wrote: Lots of companies use Hoya glass, even Leica. I'm sure Pentax is using Hoya glass where appropriate. But SMC is Pentax own, isn't it? ;-) Practically the same as the CZ T* coatings I believe (and from my experience) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
Spam Reduction. And only that. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: Well then, what's the point of trying to disguise the email addresses in the archives if it's not to provide some privacy? Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Huh? The point of having a mailing list is to make discussion easier, not to hide anything. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: Well that sucks! What's the point of having a subscription list if anyone can read the archives. Apart from anything else, our email addresses are no longer private. I'm not happy with this news. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: Thanks Godfrey. There are so many words that are not proper. Sometimes I wonder what a list of proper words would look. How many entries? 20? Hopefully a bit more, but you get my point. To bug somebody is being a nuisance. I get that. And being a nuisance is also described as being an ass. I guess that’s the connection. Never the less, avoiding all bad words makes the language so limited. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 4. oktober 2006 12:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger noun 1 [with adj. ] a contemptible or pitied person, typically a man. - a person with a particular negative quality or characteristic. - used as a term of affection or respect, typically grudgingly : all right, let the little buggers come in. 2 derogatory a person who commits buggery. verb [ trans. ] penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. exclamation used to express annoyance or anger. PHRASAL VERBS bugger off [usu. in imperative ] go away. ORIGIN Middle English (originally denoting a heretic, specifically an Albigensian): from Middle Dutch, from Old French bougre, originally in the sense ‘heretic,’ from medieval Latin Bulgarus ‘Bulgarian,’ particularly one belonging to the Orthodox Church and therefore regarded as a heretic by the Roman Church. The sense [sodomite] (16th cent.) arose from an association of heresy with forbidden sexual practices; its use as a general insult dates from the early 18th cent. Compare with Bulgar. --- Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 3. oktober 2006 21:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
Supposedly, although there has been discussion that it and the Zeiss T* coatings are the same or at least quite similar. I read more than once that Pentax and Zeiss had (and I can't recall exactly what it was) a relationship in developing their coatings. It's quite possible that over the years they've diverged some in terms of the coatings and the process of applying them. The new Pentax lenses - at least some of them - are being advertised as having a Super Protective coating: A newly developed SP (Super Protective) coating made of a special fluoride compound has been applied to the front surface of the lens with a unique evaporation process. As a result, the lens offers excellent water and oil-repellant performance and makes for easier cleaning. This is probably in addition to the SMC which is used on more than just the front surface of, presumably, just the front element. BTW, getting back to the use of Hoya glass. Hoya will make and provide glass to specification, so it's not likely that companies like Pentax and Leica are just buying off the shelf glass, although that could be possible in some situations. Shel [Original Message] From: Sylwester Pietrzyk Shel Belinkoff wrote: Lots of companies use Hoya glass, even Leica. I'm sure Pentax is using Hoya glass where appropriate. But SMC is Pentax own, isn't it? ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
Yes ... certainly at one time, but as I noted elsewhere, they may have diverged at some point. A few years ago Mark Dalal and I compared his CZ T* 85/1.4 with my Pentax A* 85/1.4. They were much more alike than different. Shel [Original Message] From: Digital Image Studio But SMC is Pentax own, isn't it? ;-) Practically the same as the CZ T* coatings I believe (and from my experience) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RE: PESO -- a proper portrait - Jocelyn
Thanks, Tim. Jocelyn is not a model by any means. She's my girlfriend, and my frequent subject for class assignments. :) I was completeing an assignment on window lighting. I was using the A50/1.7 at 5.6 and 1/200s. Mike On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A fine portrait IMO. I like the light and the pose. She seems comfortable with situation. Is she a pro model? I'm just curious about the situation of the shoot. BTW: What lens and what stop? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hamilton Sent: 3. oktober 2006 01:50 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO -- a proper portrait - Jocelyn http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocelynshort5-1window.jpg I've been taking a portraiture course through my local community college. This was for an assignment. I was using window light only. I have other shots using off-camera flash as a fill, but this was by far the best photo of the session. :) Any tips? comments? Thanks. mike -- Remember to Breathe -- MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- Remember to Breathe -- MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: On 04.10.2006, at 12:56 , Shel Belinkoff wrote: Lots of companies use Hoya glass, even Leica. I'm sure Pentax is using Hoya glass where appropriate. But SMC is Pentax own, isn't it? ;-) Cheers, Sylwek Yes, but SMC isn't glass, it's coatings. Pentax does its own coating, they buy their glass elsewhere (likely from Hoya). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Another Cormorant
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/04 Wed AM 09:34:49 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Another Cormorant B/W? Could be worth a try. Thanks ;-) But I do wonder, does the idea get across? The bird sits still and silent through influences that would elicit some response in humans (typified by the spectacular light and the rapidly moving insects) for reasons that we will never fathom? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 4. oktober 2006 11:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Another Cormorant Tim, did you think of B/W rendering? It is somewhat soft, but without having any real experience in shooting with anything longer than 210 mm I couldn't tell. Boris On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from the shore yesterday). But this fella had come back to it's regular spot. I was shooting almost directly into the sun. Kind of boring, but I felt like playing with levels, and out came this, http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261ref=author with rusty look. The specks are bugs in the air. I can't explain why, but I like it. It is what I see when I see a cormorant. Something out of space and time, something that has been here for ever. BTW. The enablement is a M 500/4,5 Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: On 04.10.2006, at 12:56 , Shel Belinkoff wrote: Lots of companies use Hoya glass, even Leica. I'm sure Pentax is using Hoya glass where appropriate. But SMC is Pentax own, isn't it? ;-) SMC was revolutionary 30-odd years ago, but these days anyone with the right software and a basic understanding of optics can design high performance multi-layer optical coatings. SMC is just a brand. http://www.thinfilmcenter.com/ S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Captured Moments from the Streets of New York
NPR piece on an exhibit at the National Gallery of Art w/photos by Walker Evans, Robert Frank, Helen Levitt and others, taken from 1938 through 1958. Includes a slide show sampler for another glimpse at history. Would be a good outing for anyone traveling to DC. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6169849sc=emaf -P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
But we were talking about coatings :-) On 04.10.2006, at 14:35 , Adam Maas wrote: Yes, but SMC isn't glass, it's coatings. Pentax does its own coating, they buy their glass elsewhere (likely from Hoya). Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Inchworm
Thanks! On 10/2/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting shot ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Scott Loveless This is my daughter. As I was taking this, she was explaining to me that it was measuring her hand. http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4981291498720985106 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:23, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I stumbled around and found I had it done without really thinking how i did it :) Now Im slothfully overloading on freecell There's something delightful about a person spending upwards of $1,000 on a machine and then using it to duplicate the function of a $2.00 pack of cards. Not that there's anything *wrong* with that! :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Inchworm
On 10/2/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: This is my daughter. As I was taking this, she was explaining to me that it was measuring her hand. http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/ photo#4981291498720985106 I like the photo but it seems kinda flat, needs a little sparkle. I can buy that. The colors are a bit subdued, but I tend to like that in color photography. What brand of sparkle did you have in mind? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Inchworm
Thanks, Frank. Much appreciated. On 10/2/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/2/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is really a response to Paul's bandwagon thread. Yesterday was strange. I spent the afternoon in PJ mode, shooting a family picnic with the K100D. I nearly filled a 1GB card in about two hours. This is my daughter. As I was taking this, she was explaining to me that it was measuring her hand. http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4981291498720985106 I like it!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Inchworm
On 10/2/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/2/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knarf will be next! No, knarf will be last! I mean, I know digital's (nearly) inevitable for me, but I'll hang onto film until the bitter end. They'll have to pry it from my dead, bony fingers... We need our own little clique. All three of us. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
On 04.10.2006, at 14:33 , Digital Image Studio wrote: Practically the same as the CZ T* coatings I believe (and from my experience) According to various sources Pentax and Zeiss codeveloped SMC and T* coatings, so that's hardly surprise :-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. Dan On 10/4/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: Thanks Godfrey. There are so many words that are not proper. Sometimes I wonder what a list of proper words would look. How many entries? 20? Hopefully a bit more, but you get my point. To bug somebody is being a nuisance. I get that. And being a nuisance is also described as being an ass. I guess that's the connection. Never the less, avoiding all bad words makes the language so limited. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 4. oktober 2006 12:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger noun 1 [with adj. ] a contemptible or pitied person, typically a man. - a person with a particular negative quality or characteristic. - used as a term of affection or respect, typically grudgingly : all right, let the little buggers come in. 2 derogatory a person who commits buggery. verb [ trans. ] penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. exclamation used to express annoyance or anger. PHRASAL VERBS bugger off [usu. in imperative ] go away. ORIGIN Middle English (originally denoting a heretic, specifically an Albigensian): from Middle Dutch, from Old French bougre, originally in the sense 'heretic,' from medieval Latin Bulgarus 'Bulgarian,' particularly one belonging to the Orthodox Church and therefore regarded as a heretic by the Roman Church. The sense [sodomite] (16th cent.) arose from an association of heresy with forbidden sexual practices; its use as a general insult dates from the early 18th cent. Compare with Bulgar. --- Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 3. oktober 2006 21:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Inchworm
On 10/4/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kids teach you nature, life, death and other stuff. All the important things we tend to forget. It's wonderful. That they do, and yes it is. Thanks, Tim. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Inchworm
On 10/2/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me, too. Nice composition particularly. Thanks, Rick. Speaking of inchworms, though, the digital thing is creeping up on you, Scott. Your tag line Shoot more film! will be replaced with Shoot film!, then Shoot some film!, then Shoot a little film, if you feel like it, and finally just Shoot! And then we'll know that the harmless-appearing but ferocious digital inchworm has consumed another one. See, now you're just stirring the pot. g Knarf will be next! Followed immediately by Armageddon? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: You think you are a street photographer...
On 10/3/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hearing voices again, Frank? snip I always hear voices in my head, Shel. The trick is to ascertain which ones are real and which ones are imaginary. I find when I wear my aluminium foil helmet, it allows the real ones through, while fending off the fake ones. g cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Captured Moments from the Streets of New York
On 10/4/06, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NPR piece on an exhibit at the National Gallery of Art w/photos by Walker Evans, Robert Frank, Helen Levitt and others, taken from 1938 through 1958. Includes a slide show sampler for another glimpse at history. Would be a good outing for anyone traveling to DC. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6169849sc=emaf Amazing stuff. I'd love to get down to Washington to see it. It'd be nice if it goes on the road when done there, although I doubt it would come to Toronto. Buffalo, maybe? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax medium formats
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Pentax medium formats Basically what your saying is if you don't look close you cant Tell the difference. Well there is a difference IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK. Its not something that's never seen either IMHO. What I am saying is if you don't stick the picture to your nose, then the difference (if any) doesn't matter, because it isn't visible. I have images shot on both 4x5 and 6x7 hanging on my wall. I need to take them out of the frames to be able to see any real quality difference between the two. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: What I did on my summer vacation
Thanks to everyone who took the time to wade through my website. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. We are equal opportunity profaners. Hence the term fucking hell William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. I think that summarizes my feelings exactly, Dan. BTW, I brought it up to Jostein, not because I was in any way offended, but because I figured that with English not being his first language, he might not have been aware of the connections that the context might bring up in the minds of some people. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: What I did on my summer vacation
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: GESO: What I did on my summer vacation Looks like you had a nice trip. I think I'll show the Rottie gallery to my wife. I like Rotties, and it is time to replace Ludvik, but she is afraid of them, so she says no. I hope these pictures could turn her around. She wants a Labrador. I like them too, had two of them, but I'd like a bit smarter dog this time. Rotties are great dogs. Originally, they were a herding dog. You should have access to some great puppies where you are. I may buy my next one from Germany. Just don't leave them chained up in the yard with no human companionship and they are fine. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Inchworm
On 10/4/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/ photo#4981291498720985106 I can buy that. The colors are a bit subdued, but I tend to like that in color photography. What brand of sparkle did you have in mind? Maybe a bit of curves would help, without un-subduing the colors? I haven't tried it on the shot, but it's worth a try, I think. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Loose lens mount on used SMC Pentax-A Zoom...
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Matt Kelch Subject: Loose lens mount on used SMC Pentax-A Zoom... I recently picked up a used SMC Pentax-A 1:4 70-210mm zoom for around 40.00. Its in absolutely great condition, but the bayonet mount is a bit loose where it is mounted to the rest of the lens. I'm not sure how to go about fixing it if it can be fixed. Anyone have experience with this? There are 5 or so screws attaching the mount to the lens. Use a small phillips screwdriver (jewelers screwdriver), try to tighten them. If that doesn't fix it, it probably needs more help than the average person can give it. William Robb I was thinking those were it, but I was unable to tighten or loosen any of them. I need to get a screw driver that fits better I guess. In any case, I don't think its a big problem at this point and for 40.00 I can't complain. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
Well, then he's apparently trying to keep things on the up and up. I'm sure Pentax appreciates what he's doing. So do I. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not too sure of that. If Pentax were going to distribute photos I doubt they would have been taken through the display case at their Photokina stand. Also, I just went and had a look at the PentaxLife site. Since I first mentioned this a week or so ago he seems to have taken the pictures, down and put a link to the DPreview page. Cheers, Dave On 10/4/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they originally came from Pentax as well. They're PR pics. Anyone can use them. Paul On Oct 4, 2006, at 6:18 AM, David Savage wrote: True, but the shots of the old Pentax concept cameras were ripped straight from DPR. Dave On 10/4/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of the images I saw on Pentax Life were Pentax PR pics that were also used on DPreview but were not exclusively theirs. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO -- two more
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:59 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO -- two more Two more from my day with the K100D. The first was taken just before sunset: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4982033758228709394 I love the God rays!!! The next is another portrait of my daughter: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4982033756927229970 Lovely shot. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Are you considering PSE 5.0?
If so, check out; http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ideagallery/ Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
On 10/4/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. We are equal opportunity profaners. Hence the term fucking hell If I can't get the coffee out of my keyboard, yer buying me a new one. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO -- two more
Two more from my day with the K100D. The first was taken just before sunset: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4982033758228709394 The next is another portrait of my daughter: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4982033756927229970 Of course, any critiques are welcome. Thanks for looking. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot some film, Rick! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- two more
On 10/4/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A sweet and gentle moment ;-)) BTW, I liked the night shot too. Do you recall the tech details on that one? I'm really mostly interested in the ISO rating. Thanks, Shel. ISO 200, f11, multisegmented metering. I took several shots of this scene and pulled the exposure back a little to bring out the rays. 18mm (18-55 kit lens). -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO -- two more
A sweet and gentle moment ;-)) BTW, I liked the night shot too. Do you recall the tech details on that one? I'm really mostly interested in the ISO rating. Shel [Original Message] From: Scott Loveless The next is another portrait of my daughter: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4982033756927229970 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PDML Mini-FAQ Link
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:07:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it doesn't take care of everything, actually. I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't bring the freecell window up to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar for it got big. sigh a = What I told you about will take care of fonts on the desktop, in the Windows file explorer (the directoy/file management thing), and quite a few others. However, a lot of time you have to adjust fonts within a program. For instance, with Word, I go in and adjust the view size to 150% rather than 100%. That works in some programs. But some older programs when used on XP will not go to a full window. They were designed for a smaller resolution screen. So even using the maximize box on the title bar (the box next to the red X close box) may not do it. I can't full window my solitaire program that I used extensively in Windows Me, and still use a lot. (I play 40 Thieves a great deal). So I just use it the way it is. It fills about 3/4th of the screen in XP, where it once filled the whole window in Me. You can always set the screen resolution down, but I find that not worth it. The higher resolution is better for photos. HTH, Marnie -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
On 10/4/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can't get the coffee out of my keyboard, yer buying me a new one. It's a bad sign when a man can't handle his coffee. Maybe it's time to switch to booze. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
On 10/4/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can't get the coffee out of my keyboard, [Robb's] buying me a new one. Yeah. Like that'll happen... cheers, frank g -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
In a message dated 10/4/2006 6:07:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SMC was revolutionary 30-odd years ago, but these days anyone with the right software and a basic understanding of optics can design high performance multi-layer optical coatings. SMC is just a brand. http://www.thinfilmcenter.com/ S Not quite true. Canon lenses will flare in situations Pentax lenses won't. Not all Pentax lenses flare less, but a lot do. It wasn't just hype. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- two more
On 10/4/06, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two more from my day with the K100D. The first was taken just before sunset: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4982033758228709394 I love the God rays!!! The next is another portrait of my daughter: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4982033756927229970 Lovely shot. Thanks, Bill. Glad you like them. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/03 Tue PM 11:20:29 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog) On Oct 3, 2006, at 5:20 PM, mike wilson wrote: John Francis wrote: On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:01:08PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On 10/3/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith's wrong about us both being wrong. Keith and Christian are both wrong, so obviously you're wrong about Keith being right - he's wrong. Right? I have a French surname. The French are never wrong. As for the others, I really don't care. Along with being gourmets and always right, we're aloof about others. cheers, theriault Does this mean knarf is a loof? I've always thought of him as a lert. I only met him once, but I was left with the impression that he is a stute. And always a pt. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
In a message dated 10/3/2006 10:18:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems that I can pull up anyone's email address just by clicking on a message. I was quite surprised to find that anyone could access the archives without being subscribed to the list. Shel You need to google more, Shel. It will bring up things from all over the Net. Sometimes I forget and self-disclose too much, but I have found stuff I said years ago in other forums (like a newsgroup) if I google for it hard enough. In my opinion, my words should die after a week or so, but, nope, some stupid utterances of mine can be found years and years later. Makes one think, huh? Well, not really... Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- two more
No, not that one - the starry night shot showing the roof of the house. This one: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4978870170851409938 Shel [Original Message] From: Scott Loveless Shel Belinkoff wrote: A sweet and gentle moment ;-)) BTW, I liked the night shot too. Do you recall the tech details on that one? I'm really mostly interested in the ISO rating. Thanks, Shel. ISO 200, f11, multisegmented metering. took several shots of this scene and pulled the exposure back a little to bring out the rays. 18mm (18-55 kit lens). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
On 10/4/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. I think that summarizes my feelings exactly, Dan. BTW, I brought it up to Jostein, not because I was in any way offended, but because I figured that with English not being his first language, he might not have been aware of the connections that the context might bring up in the minds of some people. If it wasn't for the fact I know better (that, and I don't want to offend him) I would swear he was a pom from the way he writes. :-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite true. Canon lenses will flare in situations Pentax lenses won't. Not all Pentax lenses flare less, but a lot do. It wasn't just hype. Ah, now just because any idiot can design coatings as good as SMC, it doesn't mean that they do. ;-) S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
In a message dated 10/3/2006 7:49:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This guy is providing a valuable service. I wouldn't say anything on the list that I didn't want other Pentax owners to hear. I find it a little paranoid to worry about him quoting the list. Quote away, I say. Paul = Except for me. I say nothing of note. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
I was _stunned_ by the amount of flare produced by one of my Leica lenses. In the same situation there was no flare from the Pentax glass. Granted, the Pentax glass had an early coating (K-mount) and the Leica was quite a bit newer LOL Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not quite true. Canon lenses will flare in situations Pentax lenses won't. Not all Pentax lenses flare less, but a lot do. It wasn't just hype. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite true. Canon lenses will flare in situations Pentax lenses won't. Not all Pentax lenses flare less, but a lot do. It wasn't just hype. Ah, now just because any idiot can design coatings as good as SMC, it doesn't mean that they do. ;-) S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some more images...
Thanks to all of you for your very nice comments Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
In a message dated 10/4/2006 8:09:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think not ... I already spend too much time in front of the computer. I need to get out more, exercise more, photograph more, socialize more ... I agree that you sometimes (often?) provide more info than is needed. Shel === It's the female difference. :-) What the heck, I figure I get lost in the masses. There are a lot of masses. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
On 04.10.2006, at 16:42 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite true. Canon lenses will flare in situations Pentax lenses won't. Not all Pentax lenses flare less, but a lot do. It wasn't just hype. Exactly the same situation is with modern Minolta lenses. My friend who had FA 50/1.7 met his friend with Minolta AF 50/1.7. Minolta user complained about flare visible in the viewfinder. It was jaw-dropping experience for him when he looked in my friend's MZ-S' viewfinder ;-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Life
I think not ... I already spend too much time in front of the computer. I need to get out more, exercise more, photograph more, socialize more ... I agree that you sometimes (often?) provide more info than is needed. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to google more, Shel. It will bring up things from all over the Net. Sometimes I forget and self-disclose too much -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Sunset over Guilford
On 10/3/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One last PESO for a while. http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_sunset.html Beautiful and serene. Love the colour of the sky. Very well composed - the boat's about perfect. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: D-Xenogon 35
Or maybe kit means that not just any idiot can design coatings as good. Just because there's some software out there that helps design such coatings doesn't mean that it comes with 30+ years of experience with coatings, collaboration with other great lens makers, and a feel for quality optics and coatings. I'd suggest that if they could, they would. Or, maybe they can, but they won't for reasons of cost or time or some such. Shel [Original Message] From: Steve Jolly Ah, now just because any idiot can design coatings as good as SMC, it doesn't mean that they do. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO - A Wedding in Maine
On 10/1/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good friend got married a month ago in a quaint chapel on the Maine coast. I wasn't the official photographer (fortunately), but took a lot of pics for the fun of it. http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=648705 Just catching up on some old posts. Rick, these are terrific! If you weren't the official photog, perhaps you ought to have been. You've captured the feel and mood beautifully! Love the fisheye interior shot. Which lens? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax medium formats
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote: I thought the 645 users were the junior brothers of the brotherhood, Ahem, that was the Little Brotherhood. ;) We were better than those Brotherhood types, if for no other reason than our backs were unbowed from lack of weight 'round our necks. I went through this a few years back, 6x7 versus 645. I opted for 645 as I had 4x5 cameras to cover the larger end of things, so the 645 was a nice compromise for weight and hand hold-ability, and more exposures per roll. I feel I made the right choice, at the time, although it wasn't much longer 'til DSLRs were infringing on the picture quality turf. I still use my 645 from time to time, with the 645-K adapter its a nice addition to a film kit. If I didn't have a view camera, or if I didn't love to use it, I'd probably have, and would, buy a 67. I can't think of any pitfalls with the 645 cameras, at least not model I had. I seem to remember something about the rollers or film curvature in the 645n when you enabled 16 exposures per 120 roll. There was a Tom who used to do wedding photography around here who had a handy list of differences between the two systems. He was a proponent of the 645nII, until he was lured away by the full frame Canon DSLRs. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
Well isn't that what buggery is stuffing something up? David Savage wrote: It's pretty mild language here. I tend to utter it when something stuffs up. An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite heavily: http://www.videofoundry.co.nz/ianman/humour/bugger.html From what I've read it received 100+ official complaints in NZ and 1 here in Oz. I guess there are more prudes in New Zealand ;-) Dave On 10/4/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements
For most subjects, I get nice 11 x 17 prints from my 6 megapixel camera. That's with Photoshop RAW converter interpolation to a 72 megabyte file. I expect to be able to get very nice 11 x 17s from the 10 megapixel. I think it will even prove quite good on highly detailed subjects like landscapes with trees. I would think 16 x 20 will be good with most subjects as well. Paul -- Original message -- From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] How big enlargements can one expect to get out of a 10mp DSLR like the K10D? A3 format? I've never used a digital camera Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Are you considering PSE 5.0?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:29 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Are you considering PSE 5.0? I take it your happy with it Bill. Very happy with it. I hear it has curves, and a few other things added from The Mother Ship Yes, curves plus a few things not available in The Mother Ship Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
10mp DSLR enlargements
How big enlargements can one expect to get out of a 10mp DSLR like the K10D? A3 format? I've never used a digital camera Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Another Cormorant
I like version two better. Tim Øsleby wrote: Ok. I took my latest enablement for a test spin. I took a lot of boring photographs of tiny birds in middle of frame (they where far from the shore yesterday). But this fella had come back to it's regular spot. I was shooting almost directly into the sun. Kind of boring, but I felt like playing with levels, and out came this, http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261ref=author with rusty look. The specks are bugs in the air. I can't explain why, but I like it. It is what I see when I see a cormorant. Something out of space and time, something that has been here for ever. BTW. The enablement is a M 500/4,5 Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Are you considering PSE 5.0?
I take it your happy with it Bill. I hear it has curves, and a few other things added from The Mother Ship Dave Quoting Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If so, check out; http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ideagallery/ Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW (DNG) and white balance question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 4, 2006, at 5:47 AM, Gonz wrote: I downloaded ACR 3.5 and I still see the strange tint. Its almost as if the Pentax software is writing the DNG incorrectly. Why not just adjust the white balance until it is correct and never mind what color temperature the RAW converter wants to report? Because its nice to start with a reference you know and adjust from there, instead of blindly moving the white balance around until you like it. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PAW - Sunflower
Very very nice! Tom C. From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PAW - Sunflower Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 22:23:00 +1300 Back to the pretty flower photos. I might print this one tomorrow. http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=568t=1 - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements
Pål Jensen wrote: How big enlargements can one expect to get out of a 10mp DSLR like the K10D? A3 format? I've never used a digital camera it depends. I've made 20x30 inch prints from 6mp (*ist D) by upsizing and interpolation. The level of detail is pretty darn good too. Of course there are people that will dispute this without looking at my prints. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements
On Oct 4, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Pål Jensen wrote: How big enlargements can one expect to get out of a 10mp DSLR like the K10D? A3 format? I find 180 to 200 ppi produces very satisfactory rendering quality for A3 and A3 Super sized prints. A K10D body produces full-frame image with 2592x3872 pixels, which means a 180 ppi density print covers 14.5 x 21.5 inch image area, without upsampling or other interpolation. If more print output density or a larger print is desirable, you upsample either in the RAW conversion processing or in post processing. You get no more detail but the rendering is usually smoother. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- The other side of the tracks.
You're right the little 35 to 70mm isn't the sharpest lens Pentax ever made. It isn't even the sharpest zoom that Pentax ever made. It falls short a bit short when compared to the 20-35mm f4.0 or it's original stablemate the 70-210mm f4-5.6. But then the 20-35 is damn near the sharpest zoom I've ever seen and the 70-210 seems to be one of the best regarded zooms Pentax ever made in that focal length range. A good prime will easily out preform it, but you'd expect that. It's forte is being very small, about the same size and length as a normal (35mm on APS-C digital, or 50 on 35mm film), prime, and sharp enough. It fills the focal length gap between the two aforementioned zooms nicely and gives better than adequate results. Doug Franklin wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Yea, compare it to the best... Poor thing must have gotten an inferiority complex. I didn't like this lens on film as much as I liked the FA 28~70 F4.0 many it rest in peace. Seems that most aren't happy with that lens on digital... I think that the F 35-70mm probably out resolves the 6mp sensor. Maybe I'll be disappointed with it when I finally get a K10D. Doug Franklin wrote: Boy, that sure wasn't my experience [with the smc Pentax F 35-70mm f3.5~4.5]. [...] I was disappointed in the sharpness, [...] flare control was certainly up to Pentax' (high) standards. [...] could've seemed less sharp because the same rolls contained shots from the FA* 200/2.8 and F* 300/4.5 and A 50/1.4. I guess I should give it a try on the *ist D. When I got back into photography after a long hiatus, it was a handful of months before the ZX-5n/MZ-5n came out, so I ended up getting a ZX-5. Trying to economize, I also got the F 35-70 and F 100-300 lenses with it. I made those decisions in the emotional aftermath of trying to shoot the first Petit le Mans with a K-1000 and a couple of Promaster zooms (35-80 and 80-200). They were *not* the best decisions I ever made, or the most considered ones. From almost the beginning, I wasn't satisfied with the 100-300. At first I thought it was me. After I bought some serious glass, I found it wasn't. Since I shoot mostly at the long end of the focal length spectrum, it quickly went into a box in the closet while better lenses populated my field bag. For a long time, I was mostly satisfied with the F 35-70, but I always felt that I wasn't getting the images I should be getting from it. It had been quite a while, but I got into this hobby with a K-1000 and an SMC-M 50/1.4 and a buttload of Tri-X Pan, many moons ago. The F wasn't coming close to what I was expecting. When I got an A 50/1.4 I finally started getting the images I expected. Granted, it's one of the best 35mm SLR lenses around, but it's what that old M 50/1.4 had trained me to expect. As I attempted more motorsports photography (it's almost all I do anymore), I realized that it was a situation where the equipment really does matter. So I started getting good long lenses, like the FA* 200/2.8 and F* 300/4.5. I couldn't afford the FA* 600/4 or FA 400/5.6 or FA* 400/2.8 or FA* 300/2.8, but if I could, I'd snap them up in a second. I have a Sigma 400/5.6 APO Macro that's good, but I still want the Pentax. [BTW, the FA* 200/2.8 and F* 300/4.5 are absolutely, bar none, the cat's meow. It took me a long time to find them at reasonable prices, but it was worth the wait. I can't wait to see how they perform on the K10D, because they look as good on the *ist D as they did on 35mm film.] I don't have credentials, so I have to shoot from the cold side of the fences. That means distance. I'm used to working corners where the cars are a dozen feet or less away. Shooting from the nearby hillside just annoys the heck out of me, in addition to making it more difficult for me to get the shots I want to get. The shots that I know are not only there, but that none of the pros there are going to get. [Note: The skills for getting good shots at 10 feet are a bit different than the ones for 50m with a long lens. :-) ] rant One thing that just annoys the feces out of me is the herd photography I see at pro race events. At the Petit le Mans last weekend, there were probably somewhere north of 100 credentialed still photogs and more credentialed video photogs. And they move around the track like a herd of bison on the prairie. For the Thursday night practice session, the course marshals (corner workers) at turn seven had to call in to race control asking for crowd control support, because they had /31/ photogs blocking the Emergency Vehicles (EVs) access to the track, between the turn station and the Jersey Barrier wall to drivers' right. WTF?! Get off your lazy asses. I work corners, so I know a lot of the corner workers at any given event at several tracks. All I would have to do is work one day of an event to have a track access pass, which would get me to virtually any hot area on the property, and
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
In a message dated 10/4/2006 8:50:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well isn't that what buggery is stuffing something up? == Now it's getting a bit offensive. Marnie :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- two more
On 10/4/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, not that one - the starry night shot showing the roof of the house. This one: http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#4978870170851409938 Sorry, Shel, I misunderstood. I don't recall the ISO right now. I'll take a look tonight when I get home. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Flat or punchy
I have observed over time some preferences among many of the listers concerning how a photo should 'look' - I'm sure that some of it is in relation to the monitor that it is being displayed on, but some of it seems to be a preference. Back in the film days, you could look at a slide or print of the same scene and see a difference in rendering. My experience was the slide was more punchy, contrasty and had more eye pop. But the print seemed to have more subtle detail, especially in the dark areas. Now there is the possibility that it is a optical trick, the contrast making us look past the subtle detail because of the visual overload, or there really is more subtle detail to be had. I bring this up because in the digital age, some of this same phenomenon is more controlled by the photographer in post process. I see many images, including my own, where there is a little lower contrast, but holding detail and others where the punchy wow factor is there. Seems like a subject worth discussing a bit. I can say, for myself, I am using a calibrated Fujitsu CrystalView screen on my laptop - it is considered a very high contrast, high quality screen. It does make my other screens (two CRT's and 1 laptop) look a bit drab. I'm sure that the screens we look at affect our feelings about a given image, along with our own personal feelings concerning contrast and detail. Care to comment? -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 10mp DSLR enlargements
What is upsampling and how is it done? Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi If more print output density or a larger print is desirable, you upsample either in the RAW conversion processing or in post processing. You get no more detail but the rendering is usually smoother. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax medium formats
There is an inevitable trade off between image size, camera size and convenience. Each of us will have a point at which they feel comfortable in this continuum. For some who value image quality above all, they're willing to carry a 10x8 field camera around with them, for others it's a Minox 35mm or tiny digicam. Personally I find the image quality of 645 slides more than adequate. 6x7 would be better, but I can carry my 645 camera, a set of 5 lenses (45, 55, 75, 150, 200), 2x converter and a 35mm body with zoom comfortably in a backpack. If I tried to do that with a 6x7 I'd need the services of a chiropractor. 6x7 images would be better, but you need to ask yourself if you're willing to track around the countryside carrying the extra weight. With the onset of digital, both systems offer some great bargains. My 645 system probably cost me less than an upscale C***n digital SLR. Peter - Original Message - From: J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 12:46 AM Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats Am I right in assuming the 645 frame is 6cm x 4.5 cm while the 67 is 6 cm x 7 cm? That makes the 645 nearly square. Is the 645 inferior due to its size? I'm mainly thinking of landscape shots. - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Pentax medium formats I went for the 6x7. I figured if I was going to shoot medium format, I'd want the substantially larger negative. I also like the 6x7 configuration. The camera is the same shape as a giant 35mm SLR. It feels right in my hands. I have no problem with its size and weight, but I'm a fairly big guy who pumps iron several times a week. Paul On Oct 3, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:14:46 +1000, you wrote: I really want to get a medium format at some point for landscape and maybe even macro shots. I keep an eye on Pentax 67 and to a lesser extent Pentax 645 gear on Ebay. 645 appears to be cheaper on average. Being a complete medium format ignoramus, can someone please explain the main differences between the two systems and the pros and cons of the two? Somewhere I have a list of the advantages and disadvantages of each system. I'll see if I can dig it up. The short version: 67 - Larger image size, interchangable finders 645 - More compact, portable system, newer technology (AF, etc.) Both are amongst the most durable cameras ever made. I am no professional, just a hobbyist but would love to have a medium format for large prints, etc. I would probably use a mixture of negative and slide film and use it fairly sparingly. What should I go for? What should I look out for? Stay away from the pre-MLU (mirror lock-up) 67 cameras. Not much else to beware of, as far as I know. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Both cameras can be had for very low prices these days. BTW: Anyone know where I can get a 67-645 lens adaptor? I'm thinking I might want to get some 67 lenses to try on my 645. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Another Cormorant
On 4/10/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=44261ref=author Lovely pic Tim. You might clone out the cormorant, it's a tad distracting ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)
Bob W wrote: Well stated Keith! Especially the part about Bob W. and Christian being ~both~ wrong. LOL Keith's wrong about us both being wrong. Keith and Christian are both wrong, so obviously you're wrong about Keith being right - he's wrong. Right? Bob Uhhh, yes. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
