RE: Holy Sureshot, I Actually Won Something...
Breakfast-with-the-Giraffes They say that if you sup with the devil you should use a long spoon. I believe the same is true when you breakfast with giraffes. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Sawyer Sent: 08 February 2007 02:13 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Holy Sureshot, I Actually Won Something... Thanks to all who graciously commented. Reviewing the original post, I realize that I should have stopped after the second glass of wine, so apologies for the over-the-top exuberance... The prizes are some Zoo-related services such as a behind-the-scenes tour and Breakfast-with-the-Giraffes. Value is a few hundred dollars, but since I'm a docent, I generally lead these things. I plan on donating them to an inner city school, or maybe the Children's Hospital. The painterly look comes from the Sigma lens and it's unusual bokeh. A good lens, but not the A*200 macro that I wanted. Thanks again to all, and with that, it's back to lurk mode Bill Sawyer Livonia, MI -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?
I don't know, but you pot of twigs looks nice. Cheers, Dave On 2/8/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think maybe it's not getting enough water? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5568636size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/07 Wed PM 11:56:08 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Long-delayed GFM shots I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Location shots for the new version of Hound of the Baskervilles. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/08 Thu AM 12:21:33 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US? At 01:50 AM 8/02/2007, Christian wrote: Amita Guha wrote: I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5 day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that my buyers could get their packages. DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which works great. Thanks, Amita I've always used USPS Express Mail (international) and the 3 to 5 days was 3 to 5 days. Even to Oz. The cost has only been slightly higher than Air Mail. Your experience makes me worried about the next time I send something overseas via this method... 3-5 days is excellent. Even 2 weeks is not bad IMO. How's this for delivery time: I bought a copy of Vic McBournies' Niagara Escarpment book. It was posted via surface mail on 7th November 2006 from eastern Canada. It arrived 6th February 2007. My old man was quite surprised to be receiving a Christmas gift in February. :-) Dave (from the arse end of the planet) I'm still waiting for a copy of a certain book. Three years. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/08 Thu AM 01:13:23 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Long-delayed GFM shots Verynice. The BW really give it a soul. I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Dave You will probably need a .357 Magnum for that. Ah. Seem to have my threads mixed up. On 2/7/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I quite like 1946 and 1942. The former for it's dimensionality. The latter for its interesting subject and picaresque quality. Paul On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get around to scanning them until a couple of weeks ago. No real standouts amongst them but a few that aren't bad. Here are four shots: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The BW really give it soul. Thanks. Coming from GFM's King of Infrared that's high praise, indeed! I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Cool. I'm going to bring the 645 and some BW film again this year. I'll bring the soup. We'll have a party! If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A 400/2.8 and A70-210/4
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Igor Roshchin wrote: Heavy on the pocket and beyond: Seemingly a rear lens: A 400/2.8 http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20248576.html The price seems to be rather reasonable: $2.5K for this expensive lens. (I cannot justify anything over $1000 for myself.) Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, the truck and the porter needed for carrying this lens around are not included. You latter comment made me check Boj's site. I think he has changed the picture of the lenses pages. I hope this doesn't violate the rule of PDML. The pdml does not have rules. And as your intervention would not affect the price of the lens, I don't think it would anyway. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I've heard less credible rumors on the DA55, but here's hoping it's an f/2 or faster too! That should be extremely straightforward: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/normal/K55f1.8.html Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Cotty wrote: On 7/2/07, Joseph Tainter, discombobulated, unleashed: UPS and others charge extortionate brokerage fees and if they fail to deliver, their collection points are miles away. Parcel Force collection points are scattered evenly about and the nearest is a ten minute drive. Obviously you have had a bad experience and sure, parcels go missing, but based on my experience, I would not say that Parcel Force are pretty bad - in fact I'd say they are pretty good. .02 +.02 from me. Do you take AmEx? Kostas (and for the very same reasons as Cotty). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: what do you do when you drive?
On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/6/2007 1:39:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Checkout this fellow: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/tayside_and_central/6335491.stm Funny, as bad as talking on a cell phone. But I limit myself to talking to myself when I drive. Thinking out loud, sometimes cursing other drivers. While I was driving through the downtown the other day, stopping at stop lights, going slow, letting pedestrians cross in front of me, hmmm, I thought maybe I can't even talk to myself in the car either. Some people were looking at me. I usually figure in the car I am invisible. Not going to give it up though. :-) I quite often sing (well, that's what I call it :-) along with whatever is playing on the stereo. I get funny looks quite often. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Four Generations
Thanks Bruce. On Feb 7, 2007, at 11:25 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I rather like this. It is about the two of them reading together and it is well depicted. Knowing their relationship enhances the image. -- Bruce Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 6:20:06 PM, you wrote: PS Grace and my mom. DA 50-200, f6.7. Pentax 540-something flash bounced PS off the ceiling. PS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5568643size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
Nothing at all worng with that shot :-) Nicely done. Cheers, Dave On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of money -- with a cattle ranch. :-) When I went up to northern Northern California to visit Scott Valley where my father grew up, I went around and looked at historical sites, especially sites related to my family. Most all I had seen before, but when I was much younger so it was good to revisit them. The ranch is still there, owned by two doctor brothers as a tax write-off. They, very nicely, have preserved all the old buildings. It wasn't very big, about 10x10' or 10x15' with a low roof. A larger house was built much later. It snows up there in the winter, sometimes a lot. They would have lived crowded into this little cabin in heavy snow. I wasn't using a tripod, and I think it's just semi-interesting, but the BW conversion seems okay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/homestead.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?
I'm glad it made you smile. Paul On Feb 8, 2007, at 1:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: ROTFLMAO P. J. Alling wrote: McCoy It's Dead Jim. /mccoy Paul Stenquist wrote: Do you think maybe it's not getting enough water? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5568636size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of money -- with a cattle ranch. :-) When I went up to northern Northern California to visit Scott Valley where my father grew up, I went around and looked at historical sites, especially sites related to my family. Most all I had seen before, but when I was much younger so it was good to revisit them. The ranch is still there, owned by two doctor brothers as a tax write-off. They, very nicely, have preserved all the old buildings. It wasn't very big, about 10x10' or 10x15' with a low roof. A larger house was built much later. It snows up there in the winter, sometimes a lot. They would have lived crowded into this little cabin in heavy snow. I wasn't using a tripod, and I think it's just semi-interesting, but the BW conversion seems okay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/homestead.htm Comments welcome. I like it. Nice BW rendering. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?
Paul Stenquist wrote: Do you think maybe it's not getting enough water? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5568636size=lg That's plenty of water; just in the wrong state (chemically and geographically) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A85 f1.4 and A135 f1.8 at www.fotoabro.nl (sold)
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:13:57 +0100 (CET), Frank Wajer wrote: grab them while you can. 650 euro a piece. I already have both of them, they are awesome. Well, they are gone, after trying to convince myself for two days I did not need the 135, I gave them a call anyway :-) These two for 650 Euro each and a (M ?) 50mm f/1.2 for 150 Euro went in a single deal. They said they had received emails from all over the world including Australia and the US. Wonder where that came from :-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
I like it. Do you have any that show the whole house? It's an interesting bit of history. Paul On Feb 8, 2007, at 6:04 AM, David Savage wrote: Nothing at all worng with that shot :-) Nicely done. Cheers, Dave On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of money -- with a cattle ranch. :-) When I went up to northern Northern California to visit Scott Valley where my father grew up, I went around and looked at historical sites, especially sites related to my family. Most all I had seen before, but when I was much younger so it was good to revisit them. The ranch is still there, owned by two doctor brothers as a tax write-off. They, very nicely, have preserved all the old buildings. It wasn't very big, about 10x10' or 10x15' with a low roof. A larger house was built much later. It snows up there in the winter, sometimes a lot. They would have lived crowded into this little cabin in heavy snow. I wasn't using a tripod, and I think it's just semi-interesting, but the BW conversion seems okay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/homestead.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? There are. I found a couple of them on eBay, too. I may have to get one just for GFM. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
If i have room, i'll bring my tank. If i don't shoot any BW film, i can drink soup from it then.:-) Dave On 2/7/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The BW really give it soul. Thanks. Coming from GFM's King of Infrared that's high praise, indeed! I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Cool. I'm going to bring the 645 and some BW film again this year. I'll bring the soup. We'll have a party! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The BW really give it soul. Thanks. Coming from GFM's King of Infrared that's high praise, indeed! Oh Oh. Talk about pressure for this year.:) I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Cool. I'm going to bring the 645 and some BW film again this year. I'm pretty sure is still have 1/2 dozen istill in the fridge. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?
Yes, that happened to me this time. The part I find annoying is that one delivery attempt is made and then the customer isn't notified for a couple of days, or even a week, unless I track it down on my end. Amita On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to track a USPS lens shipment to a customer in the UK. Turns out it was being held in customs. I think that's usually the case. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Amita, Be glad you didn't send it to Italy. My experience twice there has been on the order of a month even with USPS fast delivery (about 1 week or less). The problem becomes once it leaves the US, the post office is at the mercy of the other country's mail system. Some countries are much better than others. I feel your pain. -- Bruce Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 8:46:36 AM, you wrote: AG I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS AG International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would AG get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5 AG day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient AG (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and AG track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that AG my buyers could get their packages. AG DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship AG things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing AG that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I AG haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which AG works great. AG Thanks, AG Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On 2/7/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's time Pentax balanced out their lineup and released a DFA* 200mm f4 Macro, to replace the FA* version they boneheadedly discontinued before I could afford it :-) I know there aren't a lot of Sigma fans on this list, but Sigma just released a 150mm macro. Don't know if it's avaiable for Pentax though. Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?
No, I was talking about regular Express Mail, though I'm starting to think about using Global Express. I just hate charging $80 and up for shipping. Amita On 2/7/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean USPS Global Express? That is about the best way in my limited experience. Two weeks tends to be about the minimum, not the maximum. I do not think the problems are with the USPS, but with the postal service on the other end. -graywolf Amita Guha wrote: I just had to ship two lenses to buyers outside the US. USPS International Express Mail seemed like a good method because I would get a tracking number and insurance. The problem is that my 3 to 5 day delivery time ended up being about two weeks for each recipient (in the UK and France.) I ended up having to call the post office and track each package over the phone to get detailed information so that my buyers could get their packages. DHL and FedEx seem way too expensive. I know a lot of people ship things Airmail Parcel Post all the time without a problem, but doing that makes me nervous with certaun items. Is there another method I haven't thought of? Within the US and Canada I use FedEx Ground, which works great. Thanks, Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA77 - going out of production?
On 2/8/07, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's time Pentax balanced out their lineup and released a DFA* 200mm f4 Macro, to replace the FA* version they boneheadedly discontinued before I could afford it :-) I know there aren't a lot of Sigma fans on this list, but Sigma just released a 150mm macro. Don't know if it's avaiable for Pentax though. I just checked Canon, Nikon, Sigma 4/3 (coming soon) mount only. Cheers, Dave (Sigma anti-fan :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?
On 2/8/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip My old man was quite surprised to be receiving a Christmas gift in February. :-) Dave (from the arse end of the planet) I'm still waiting for a copy of a certain book. Three years. Isn't that more a matter of it not having even been posted yet. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
It must be nice to be able to spend large sums of money to replace perfectly function lenses for a marginal increase in performance and functionality. Mandated deprication (read: loss of aperture coupler) aside, obtaining 95% of the optical performance for 10% of the expense sounds like a winning proposition to me. That is why I shoot pre-AF lenses I would rather get 10x the lenses producing 95% the performance of newer varieties. It's not a matter of 'being able to spend large sums of money'. I depend upon these tools to produce my work and make my living. I want the best tools that exploit *all* the features of the body which I paid for. Fair enough. If one is in that position (i.e. trying to make money with photography), it's a whole different level. It make a lot more sense to use the latest and greatest to maximize quality with a minimum of effort. For the hobbyist, it's a lot harder to justify big money on lenses that produce images at best marginally better than older, cheaper ones (provided they're willing to forgo the nicey new features like AF). -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: NO FS this Friday?
you are calling not performing as well. I dont think its fair or show's much understanding to describe them that way when you are using DA lenses optimized for APS on APS with FF lenses which are optimized for FF but not using them FF and are only using them on APS. Sure This sentence doesn't parse. -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: NO FS this Friday?
yep, I meant comparing instead of using. Thanks for the clarification request. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:19 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? you are calling not performing as well. I dont think its fair or show's much understanding to describe them that way when you are using DA lenses optimized for APS on APS with FF lenses which are optimized for FF but not using them FF and are only using them on APS. Sure This sentence doesn't parse. -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: NO FS this Friday?
If I had to buy all new lenses for any DSLR, I wouldnt buy a pentax DSLR. The main advantage of buying a Pentax DSLR is if you already have a bunch of Pentax Lenses. If you dont or have to, or need to buy all new ones, I would go with canon as they have more bodies/lenses to choose from and higher level DSLR bodies with FF if wanted or needed... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? It must be nice to be able to spend large sums of money to replace perfectly function lenses for a marginal increase in performance and functionality. Mandated deprication (read: loss of aperture coupler) aside, obtaining 95% of the optical performance for 10% of the expense sounds like a winning proposition to me. That is why I shoot pre-AF lenses I would rather get 10x the lenses producing 95% the performance of newer varieties. It's not a matter of 'being able to spend large sums of money'. I depend upon these tools to produce my work and make my living. I want the best tools that exploit *all* the features of the body which I paid for. Fair enough. If one is in that position (i.e. trying to make money with photography), it's a whole different level. It make a lot more sense to use the latest and greatest to maximize quality with a minimum of effort. For the hobbyist, it's a lot harder to justify big money on lenses that produce images at best marginally better than older, cheaper ones (provided they're willing to forgo the nicey new features like AF). -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? There are. I found a couple of them on eBay, too. I may have to get one just for GFM. Cool, I'd guess they shoould be better, for not having the bottleneck of USB1.1 in the way. Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/8/07, Eric Featherstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? There are. I found a couple of them on eBay, too. I may have to get one just for GFM. Cool, I'd guess they shoould be better, for not having the bottleneck of USB1.1 in the way. The only PCMCIA at newegg is over eighty bucks. Yowser! eekBay seems to be the place to shop. Nice photographs, BTW. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom
- Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom N only a sor of warranty which would warrant (obviously) that your lovely $1000 software will still be useful onece new Window$ or OSX or whatever comes out or new ACR or whatever. This sort of forcing you to upgrade is lame to say the least. I seem to be making the same debating point on two different threads. If what I have now is working, why would I need to update anything? If something comes along that I think might work better for me, then I have a decision to make regarding whether I want to adopt it or not, whether I want to spend the money or not. I could still be using my PII/Windows 98 and Photoshop 5 if I wanted to. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? If I had to buy all new lenses for any DSLR, I wouldnt buy a pentax DSLR. The main advantage of buying a Pentax DSLR is if you already have a bunch of Pentax Lenses. If you dont or have to, or need to buy all new ones, I would go with canon as they have more bodies/lenses to choose from and higher level DSLR bodies with FF if wanted or needed... Is someone holding a gun to your head and making you buy all new lenses for your (obsolete) DSLR? Do you feel compelled to buy a new lens set so that you can take pictures with your (obsolete) DSLR? If you don't then your own actions fly in the face of your point here, and renders it moot. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? All of my comments made in this thread regarding APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related to format (sensor) size, not feature set issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether. Bullshit. It's part and parcel of what the lens can do. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
- Original Message - From: Cory Papenfuss Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? For the hobbyist, it's a lot harder to justify big money on lenses that produce images at best marginally better than older, cheaper ones (provided they're willing to forgo the nicey new features like AF). Hobbiests don't have to justify anything. If they can afford something to support their hobby, and they want it, that is all the justification required. Businesses have a harder time justifying things, since aquisitions must pass a more structured and rigourous means test. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
Beautiful exposure and composition. Love the textures and technical imperfections of its rough hand constructions. I lived near a place in northern CA. named Scott's Valley, which is located between San Jose and Santa Cruz, but noted that there are other Scott Valleys in the state. I don't think my Scott's Valley would get but a rare dusting of snow, however. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of money -- with a cattle ranch. :-) When I went up to northern Northern California to visit Scott Valley where my father grew up, I went around and looked at historical sites, especially sites related to my family. Most all I had seen before, but when I was much younger so it was good to revisit them. The ranch is still there, owned by two doctor brothers as a tax write-off. They, very nicely, have preserved all the old buildings. It wasn't very big, about 10x10' or 10x15' with a low roof. A larger house was built much later. It snows up there in the winter, sometimes a lot. They would have lived crowded into this little cabin in heavy snow. I wasn't using a tripod, and I think it's just semi-interesting, but the BW conversion seems okay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/homestead.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom
On 2/8/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: N only a sor of warranty which would warrant (obviously) that your lovely $1000 software will still be useful onece new Window$ or OSX or whatever comes out or new ACR or whatever. This sort of forcing you to upgrade is lame to say the least. I seem to be making the same debating point on two different threads. If what I have now is working, why would I need to update anything? If something comes along that I think might work better for me, then I have a decision to make regarding whether I want to adopt it or not, whether I want to spend the money or not. I could still be using my PII/Windows 98 and Photoshop 5 if I wanted to. My wife uses Elements. We started with version 3 I think, and are now up to 4. We also have a copy of CS2, which I occasionally use but she never does. In reality we could use something like Picasa for the vast majority of what we do. I've found that the spot healing brush is essential for film scanning. Other than that I typically adjust contrast and highlights/shadow for my black and white scans. Looking back it's plainly obvious that Elements 3 is plenty for what we need. The money spent on Elements 4 and CS2 would have been better spent on lenses. I'm sure some of you need the horsepower in CS2, and it's perfectly justified. For me, though, I just got caught up in the upgrade cycle. In September 2005 I bought my wife a Mac Mini for her birthday. When she opened it she asked me if Adobe offered special pricing for switching from the PC version to the Mac version of Photoshop, and would she have to replace her collection of Sims games, and on and on. Apparently, I hadn't thought things through. Turns out that switching her to a Mac (she didn't want multiple computers at her desk) would cost more than buying the Mac itself. We sent it back. Now that Macs are capable of dual booting Winders we may re-consider. But for now she's staying with what she has. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)
http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg ^^^ Samsung versiuon of K10D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom
Speaking of upgrades. My home PC is running Win XP SP1. Please don't try to convince me it is not good. Now, LR comes and says - I shall run on SP1, but you should upgrade to SP2 so that with SP1 you won't get any support from my team. Bullshit if you ask me. What on earth makes SP2 so much preferable over SP1 for photo editing??? -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom
On 2/8/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In September 2005 I bought my wife a Mac Mini for her birthday. When she opened it she asked me if Adobe offered special pricing for switching from the PC version to the Mac version of Photoshop, and Out of curiousity Scott, how much would it have cost to move the Photoshop license(s) from Windows to Mac? I may be facing a similar upgrade path soon. I may just wait until CS3 is released, and purchase that for the mac. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom
On 2/8/07, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/8/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In September 2005 I bought my wife a Mac Mini for her birthday. When she opened it she asked me if Adobe offered special pricing for switching from the PC version to the Mac version of Photoshop, and Out of curiousity Scott, how much would it have cost to move the Photoshop license(s) from Windows to Mac? I may be facing a similar upgrade path soon. I may just wait until CS3 is released, and purchase that for the mac. We couldn't find anything specific on Adobe's site about making the switch. I though this was odd. So I shot off an email to Adobe asking about it. I got two replies. One stated that we would only need to pay the upgrade price, and the other said we would have to pay full price. We gave up at that point. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)
Roman wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg ^^^ Samsung versiuon of K10D Breaking news, everyone :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom
On 2/8/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of upgrades. My home PC is running Win XP SP1. Please don't try to convince me it is not good. Now, LR comes and says - I shall run on SP1, but you should upgrade to SP2 so that with SP1 you won't get any support from my team. Bullshit if you ask me. What on earth makes SP2 so much preferable over SP1 for photo editing??? It's all about what it costs Adobe to support end users on multiple platforms. If they can develop and test for one OS, they save money. Believe me, supporting a product on every version of Windows ever released is a PITA. I've done it. It sucks. While there may be no technical reason that Lightroom won't work on earlier versions of Windows, if I were Adobe I'd do things the same way. When I worked for First Data, I supported literally thousands of users running anything from Windows 98 to XP. There were even a few 95 boxes out there running critical applications that had been abandoned by their developers. So we supported that, too. Our outside sales force were all issued laptop computers. The established sales reps got the newer models. The newbies got hand-me-downs. Quite a few of these were four and five year old Dell's running W2K with 256MB RAM and 6GB hard disks. Some of the newer sales tools were memory hogs. We quickly found that many of the older machines just couldn't handle it. This basically forced a hardware upgrade for a big chunk of the company. We couldn't have been happier. We went from supporting a few thousand Frankenstein laptops that had been strung along for years, to supporting mostly brand new machines all running the same OS. We were able to reduce average handle time. In turn, the dept was able cope with attrition much better. We simply didn't replace the first two people to leave after the upgrade. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom
On Feb 8, 2007, at 6:40 AM, Mat Maessen wrote: On 2/8/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In September 2005 I bought my wife a Mac Mini for her birthday. When she opened it she asked me if Adobe offered special pricing for switching from the PC version to the Mac version of Photoshop, and Out of curiousity Scott, how much would it have cost to move the Photoshop license(s) from Windows to Mac? I may be facing a similar upgrade path soon. I may just wait until CS3 is released, and purchase that for the mac. If you have the current version, it is cost free to do an OS platform license transfer. Here is a report from another user on the process: http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34459 If you are not using the current version, they require an upgrade to the current version as they will send you the current version; the cost is the price of an upgrade. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)
On 2/8/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roman wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg ^^^ Samsung versiuon of K10D Breaking news, everyone :-) More good news from everyone's favorite write-only user. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/08 Thu PM 02:45:02 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom Speaking of upgrades. My home PC is running Win XP SP1. Please don't try to convince me it is not good. Now, LR comes and says - I shall run on SP1, but you should upgrade to SP2 so that with SP1 you won't get any support from my team. Bullshit if you ask me. What on earth makes SP2 so much preferable over SP1 for photo editing??? AFAIK SP2 is most importantly a security overhaul, although there will undoubtedly be other issues dealt with in there. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom
Boris Liberman wrote: Speaking of upgrades. My home PC is running Win XP SP1. Please don't try to convince me it is not good. Now, LR comes and says - I shall run on SP1, but you should upgrade to SP2 so that with SP1 you won't get any support from my team. Bullshit if you ask me. What on earth makes SP2 so much preferable over SP1 for photo editing??? It's about support, Boris. I work in a huge company with thousands of machines. If we have a problem with one or an application running on one, the vendors will check firmware and OS kernel versions before even investigating the problem. If it is behind they will not look at the problem until we update to the latest version. In windows/lightroom case, SP2 has been around for a while and I'm sure Lightroom was developed to run on the updated version. sure it might work on SP1, but if it doesn't in some way it could be because of OS version interactions and the solution will be to update to SP2. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)
Well, I didn't know that there was a Samsung 12-24 lens... - Mensaje original De: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: jueves, 8 de febrero, 2007 15:58:24 Asunto: Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels) Roman wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg ^^^ Samsung versiuon of K10D Breaking news, everyone :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom
On Feb 8, 2007, at 6:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: My home PC is running Win XP SP1. Please don't try to convince me it is not good. Now, LR comes and says - I shall run on SP1, but you should upgrade to SP2 so that with SP1 you won't get any support from my team. Bullshit if you ask me. What on earth makes SP2 so much preferable over SP1 for photo editing??? Support/development costs for new software running on operating system versions that are obsolete make it infeasible to offer full testing/support for that system configuration, plain and simple. It has little to do with what is possible functionally, although that might enter into the picture too depending upon what features supplied by the OS an application is taking advantage of. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
In a message dated 2/8/2007 4:02:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like it. Do you have any that show the whole house? It's an interesting bit of history. Paul === Thanks, Paul. Uh, not entirely, no. Part of the front, I think. It was midday when I arrived there, so there was a lot of dark contrast, dark shadow. There were two buildings, one that they now use as a tack room and that originally was used for something like that, maybe where they put some animals when it snowed. Although the two buildings looked very similar. :-) The other building was a tad more accessible and I got a better front shot of that one. There was a wire fence on the other side of this one, so I couldn't really walk around it. The foreman of the ranch, when he found out who I was, gave me permission to shoot things on the ranch. Within reason. What was interesting to me was how the lumber used was unplaned, unsawed. You know, rough. The nice thing is they had hung plaques (wooden) on both with the original building dates. Although it did sort of ruin the effect for photographs. :-) I am still going through the photos. Maybe I will turn up something else interesting. Thanks also to Micah, Dave, and Christian. (My email box got full again, so if anyone else commented before this post, them too). Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?
In a message dated 2/7/2007 6:15:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think maybe it's not getting enough water? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5568636size=lg == LOL. Too much water. Of the frozen variety. Thanks for the laugh. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO--On My Way to Work: Tree in Cemetery
In a message dated 2/7/2007 8:33:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Rick, It is a pretty cool tree. I agree that there is a shot or three in there. This one doesn't seem to be it for me. I would certainly look at a lower angle, different perspectives, different lighting etc. I have a few of these kind of things where I know the shot is there, but haven't quite found it yet. I suspect your DOF is so good because your angle is quite wide and the distance of the subject to camera is not particularly close. -- Best regards, Bruce === What he said. You can blur backgrounds in PS, and sometimes people do it. This is such a great tree, I'd try a lot of different angles on it, and closer too. A lot closer, personally. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)
Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Well, I didn't know that there was a Samsung 12-24 lens... You mean a Pentax lens with a blue ring instead of green and a fake German name on it. I've no issue with rebranding stuff, like the body and lenses, but what annoys me is that places like PopPhoto make it sound like it is something new and exciting and that it is really a Schneider lens. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:24:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's a fine photo. The only thing I would say is that it looks like you're looking down on that wall, so the vertical lines of the window -- which I'm sure weren't parallel anyway -- look a bit strange to me. Thanks, Micah = I could have been looking down on it a bit, it was a small building and I am tall. But, yes, none of it was square either. Also some of the old buildings were leaning a bit too, I am sure they have sagged a bit over the years also. Thanks for looking. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
Beautiful exposure and composition. Love the textures and technical imperfections of its rough hand constructions. I lived near a place in northern CA. named Scott's Valley, which is located between San Jose and Santa Cruz, but noted that there are other Scott Valleys in the state. I don't think my Scott's Valley would get but a rare dusting of snow, however. Jack === Looked in the archives. Thanks, Jack. :-) That one I've heard about, although not sure I've been there, it has a 's. This one doesn't. It is near Yreka. There is a river down through the middle of the valley, that at one end is totally ruined in appearance because of the rock piles on either side -- from dredging for gold. Although when I was up there it looked better to me, and I asked some cousins about it. A local company has been hauling away the rock to sell... as rock. So one of these days it may actually look a LOT better. Lots of Scotts seemed to come to CA for the gold rush. I suppose there is some cultural/ethnic joke in there somewhere. Thanks for looking. Marnie aka Doe :-) I wasn't using a tripod, and I think it's just semi-interesting, but the BW conversion seems okay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/homestead.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: combat photography
In a message dated 2/7/2007 9:11:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try the Polo then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1aVSXvcV3M William Robb = That has got to be one of the worst commercials, ever. Like in really, really, really bad taste. Marnie aka Doe But strangely funny. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Offensive photo!
In a message dated 2/6/2007 9:46:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ;-) From a 10k race I photographed a couple of weeks ago... http://www.robertstech.com/run/graphics/pages/7d700259.htm = Cute. Love the pink gloves. And I don't get it. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)
Ah, of course it is rebranded...I was just trying to find some actual news in the original post ;-) - Mensaje original De: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: jueves, 8 de febrero, 2007 17:01:41 Asunto: Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels) Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Well, I didn't know that there was a Samsung 12-24 lens... You mean a Pentax lens with a blue ring instead of green and a fake German name on it. I've no issue with rebranding stuff, like the body and lenses, but what annoys me is that places like PopPhoto make it sound like it is something new and exciting and that it is really a Schneider lens. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO--On My Way to Work: Tree in Cemetery
Nice shot and angle Rick. Give Frank a shout, he'll blur it up fer ya. vbg Dave On 2/7/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This tree has fascinated me since I first saw it a few months ago. This morning, after the closest thing Philly has had to a snowstorm this winter, I took a detour on my walk to work to see what it looked like. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5568647 ist D, DA 16-45, f/4 @ 1/3000, RAW, cropping and minor adjustments in ACR and PE4. The question is: Why is my DOF so damned good even at f/4? I wanted to blur the background, but it wouldn't cooperate. Comments, compliments, criticisms all invited. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece http://tinyurl.com/373zmj Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
All of my comments made in this thread regarding APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related to format (sensor) size, not feature set issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether. Bullshit. It's part and parcel of what the lens can do. William Robb So, without consideration of operator error, what exactly does a new lens' feature set do to improve the resultant picture quality? The improved contrast of having autofocus? The increase of sharpness due to not having an auto-aperture? Bullshit. If you're too damn lazy to use manual lenses, just say it. It has nothing to do with picture quality, except in the context of operator error/incompetence/laziness. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
He might have made more money if his house had three other sides.vbg Sorry, feebel humor atttempt. I like the shot and the conversion. Good detail in the logs and window. Dave On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of money -- with a cattle ranch. :-) When I went up to northern Northern California to visit Scott Valley where my father grew up, I went around and looked at historical sites, especially sites related to my family. Most all I had seen before, but when I was much younger so it was good to revisit them. The ranch is still there, owned by two doctor brothers as a tax write-off. They, very nicely, have preserved all the old buildings. It wasn't very big, about 10x10' or 10x15' with a low roof. A larger house was built much later. It snows up there in the winter, sometimes a lot. They would have lived crowded into this little cabin in heavy snow. I wasn't using a tripod, and I think it's just semi-interesting, but the BW conversion seems okay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/homestead.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
The one near Yreka is, also, a Scott Valley. It's well up north, not far from the small town of Fort Jones. My Scott's Valley is nearer central state and a few thousand feet up in the Santa Cruz Mtns.. My offerings here are rather pointless (as usual), just idol finger prattle. Thanks, always, for sharing. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautiful exposure and composition. Love the textures and technical imperfections of its rough hand constructions. I lived near a place in northern CA. named Scott's Valley, which is located between San Jose and Santa Cruz, but noted that there are other Scott Valleys in the state. I don't think my Scott's Valley would get but a rare dusting of snow, however. Jack === Looked in the archives. Thanks, Jack. :-) That one I've heard about, although not sure I've been there, it has a 's. This one doesn't. It is near Yreka. There is a river down through the middle of the valley, that at one end is totally ruined in appearance because of the rock piles on either side -- from dredging for gold. Although when I was up there it looked better to me, and I asked some cousins about it. A local company has been hauling away the rock to sell... as rock. So one of these days it may actually look a LOT better. Lots of Scotts seemed to come to CA for the gold rush. I suppose there is some cultural/ethnic joke in there somewhere. Thanks for looking. Marnie aka Doe :-) I wasn't using a tripod, and I think it's just semi-interesting, but the BW conversion seems okay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/homestead.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of money -- with a cattle ranch. :-) ... I wasn't using a tripod, and I think it's just semi-interesting, but the BW conversion seems okay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/homestead.htm It's a good photo, with interesting composition and textures. I think it might be nicer if printed down a little deeper: the rendering on my screen seems a bit on the hot/light side. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
From: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:52:09 -0500 (EST) All of my comments made in this thread regarding APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related to format (sensor) size, not feature set issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether. Bullshit. It's part and parcel of what the lens can do. William Robb So, without consideration of operator error, what exactly does a new lens' feature set do to improve the resultant picture quality? The improved contrast of having autofocus? The increase of sharpness due to not having an auto-aperture? Bullshit. If you're too damn lazy to use manual lenses, just say it. It has nothing to do with picture quality, except in the context of operator error/incompetence/laziness. -Cory The arguments seems to becoming one of crossed wires here. Some people buy new lenses because they want to get the most out of there body's feature set. Others are happy using older lenses that are fine performers, but not up to date feature-wise. Some people buy new lenses like they're at the candy store, others do not. The lens' pre-eminent function is to focus light at the focal plane. All the other features a lens may have are superfluous to this. One does not have to purchase new lenses for a Pentax DSLR, unless they want to. I have not purchased a DA lens and may never do so. The only one that tempts me is the DA 40/2.8. I already have a 40/2.8 pancake, but the DA tempts me beause of it's size and AF capability. I wouldn't call it operator error/incompetence/laziness Cory, but I get your point. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using older legacy lenses that work just fine and produce desirable results. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner
On 2/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece http://tinyurl.com/373zmj So who's down and out so far? Agfa and Forte? Anyone else? I really expected Kodak to be the last man standing. This could be good or bad. With any luck the old men in the white tower in Rochester will sell off the film division. Hopefully to a company who has an interest in making film products. I'd like to think that Fuji or Ilford may have an interest in Kodak's technology, at the very least. My instinct tells me that Kodak doesn't have a clue, though, and will probably just shut it down. Either way, this makes what's left of the film market a bit less competitive. The few players remaining may have a better chance of surviving it longer. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: All of my comments made in this thread regarding APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related to format (sensor) size, not feature set issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether. Bullshit. It's part and parcel of what the lens can do. So, without consideration of operator error, what exactly does a new lens' feature set do to improve the resultant picture quality? The improved contrast of having autofocus? The increase of sharpness due to not having an auto-aperture? Bullshit. If you're too damn lazy to use manual lenses, just say it. It has nothing to do with picture quality, except in the context of operator error/incompetence/laziness. Bullshit seems to be the word this morning. If you want to buy a camera and take advantage of half of what you paid for by using old lenses on it, that's your choice. No question that you can do some nice work if you know what you're doing. But calling someone who wants to take advantage of pattern evaluative metering, linked AE and focus point, MTF prioritized exposure metering, automatic recognition of lens focal length for image stabilization, improved flare control, better image resolution, high speed/accuracy focusing with fine manual control, etc etc, lazy or incompetent is truly bullshit. All these things can add up to improved picture quality when exploited to advantage. For either an amateur or a professional photographer too. There's no doubt that high quality photographs do not *require* all these capabilities, but they can help. You seem to always want to choose doing things the hardest way, Corey. I don't see any evidence that your choice poses an advantage. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
A 400/2.8 and A70-210/4
Igor Roshchin wrote on Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:32:52 -0800: (snip) Heavy on the pocket and beyond: Seemingly a rear lens: A 400/2.8 http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20248576.html The price seems to be rather reasonable: $2.5K for this expensive lens. (I cannot justify anything over $1000 for myself.) Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, the truck and the porter needed for carrying this lens around are not included. I hope this doesn't violate the rule of PDML. Igor PS. It is actually not heavy on the pocket, as it makes the pocket much-much lighter! ;-) Although, with credit cards, the weight of the pocket doesn't change... Thanks (I think) for the post, Igor. I've been looking for a copy of this monster in reasonably good condition and at a reasonable price for my collection of A and A* primes. I pulled the trigger and ordered it from Adorama today. Who wants to volunteer to be my porter and carry it around? I currently have 25 A and A* prime lenses in hand (not including duplicates) and when this one arrives I'll have only the A*600/5.6 and the A*1200/8 left on my wanted list (not that I ever expect to get the last one; I've never even seen it for sale, and I suspect that it would cost as much as a new car...). Regards, Jim -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
-- So, without consideration of operator error, what exactly does a new lens' feature set do to improve the resultant picture quality? The improved contrast of having autofocus? The increase of sharpness due to not having an auto-aperture? Bullshit. If you're too damn lazy to use manual lenses, just say it. It has nothing to do with picture quality, except in the context of operator error/incompetence/laziness. -Cory If you only consider one parameter when you are making an equipment purchase you are a fool. Glass quality is certainly the most important part of a lens buying decision, but it isn't the only part. In context, a couple of people on list have noted that the newer lenses do a better job of rendering images onto the DSLR sensor. Isn't that what's important? When you start shooting large format cameras and hump 50 or more pounds of equipment into the field, when you win a few awards with your pictures, and when you start earning a living with your camera (all of which I have done), you can start talking to me about operator error/incompetence/laziness. Until then, you are just another person who doesn't know what they are talking about pissing into the wind. Regards William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 01:50:07PM +, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? There are. I found a couple of them on eBay, too. I may have to get one just for GFM. Cool, I'd guess they shoould be better, for not having the bottleneck of USB1.1 in the way. A vanilla PCMCIA card will still be a pretty bad bottleneck; I'm not sure what their maximum transfer rate is, but it isn't all that great. What you really want (assuming your laptop supports it, of course) is a cardbus card. These are, naturally, more expensive :-(. They look just like a PCMCIA card (except for a gold stripe). I can't remember when laptop manufacturers started putting cardbus-compatible slots in machines, but it was at least five years ago. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
A 400/2.8 and A70-210/4
Igor Roshchin wrote on Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:32:52 -0800: (snip) Heavy on the pocket and beyond: Seemingly a rear lens: A 400/2.8 http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20248576.html The price seems to be rather reasonable: $2.5K for this expensive lens. (I cannot justify anything over $1000 for myself.) Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, the truck and the porter needed for carrying this lens around are not included. I hope this doesn't violate the rule of PDML. Igor PS. It is actually not heavy on the pocket, as it makes the pocket much-much lighter! ;-) Although, with credit cards, the weight of the pocket doesn't change... Thanks (I think) for the post, Igor. I've been looking for a copy of this monster in reasonably good condition and at a reasonable price for my collection of A and A* primes. I pulled the trigger and ordered it from Adorama today. Who wants to volunteer to be my porter and carry it around? I currently have 25 A and A* prime lenses in hand (not including duplicates) and when this one arrives I'll have only the A*600/5.6 and the A*1200/8 left on my wanted list (not that I ever expect to get the last one; I've never even seen it for sale, and I suspect that it would cost as much as a new car...). Regards, Jim -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner
On 2/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece http://tinyurl.com/373zmj I'd like to think that Fuji or Ilford may have an interest in Kodak's technology, at the very least. Scott Loveless Fujak? Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: combat photography
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:32:14AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/7/2007 9:11:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try the Polo then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1aVSXvcV3M William Robb = That has got to be one of the worst commercials, ever. Like in really, really, really bad taste. Marnie aka Doe But strangely funny. This one (for the ford Ka) runs it pretty close for bad taste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTCf2Z50ohU -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
If you only consider one parameter when you are making an equipment purchase you are a fool. Glass quality is certainly the most important part of a lens buying decision, but it isn't the only part. In context, a couple of people on list have noted that the newer lenses do a better job of rendering images onto the DSLR sensor. Isn't that what's important? When you start shooting large format cameras and hump 50 or more pounds of equipment into the field, when you win a few awards with your pictures, and when you start earning a living with your camera (all of which I have done), you can start talking to me about operator error/incompetence/laziness. Until then, you are just another person who doesn't know what they are talking about pissing into the wind. Regards William Robb Composition trumps all. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:19:37AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: But calling someone who wants to take advantage of pattern evaluative metering, linked AE and focus point, MTF prioritized exposure metering, automatic recognition of lens focal length for image stabilization, improved flare control, better image resolution, high speed/accuracy focusing with fine manual control, etc etc, lazy or incompetent is truly bullshit. Don't forget TAv mode - an amazingly useful innovation. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner
On 2/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece http://tinyurl.com/373zmj I'd like to think that Fuji or Ilford may have an interest in Kodak's technology, at the very least. Scott Loveless Fujak? Kojiford. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner
Scott Loveless wrote: I really expected Kodak to be the last man standing. boggle You must be referring to a different Kodak than the one I've been observing for the past 20 years or so! I'm surprised they've survived this long, given their management. If Kodak wasn't planning on selling off their film division(s) before, they'd better be now because the rumor alone is going to decrease the value of anything associated with the word film. They need to sell ASAP while they still can. My bets: Fuji to take the motion picture stuff. Most other stuff to be split off every which way. Except Kodachrome, which will die a quiet death. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
Just a small comment: My A*135mm 1.8 and FA100mm 2.8 macro are not as good on my dslrs as they are on film. This is not because of the smaller sensor size but because they are optimized for film, not sensors. If Pentax made a FF camera they would have to make new lenses that were optimized for the new, large sensors as the problems the old lenses show on APS sensors would be even more evident on the large ones. DagT Den 8. feb. 2007 kl. 08.31 skrev J. C. O'Connell: these lenses are not really superb or better lenses in terms of overall image quality capability, the DA lenses are actually worse I would venture to say, they just work better on the limited size APS format that's all. If you had a full frame camera that matched what the full frame lenses can do and were designed for, you would reverse which ones you are calling superb and which ones you are calling not performing as well. I dont think its fair or show's much understanding to describe them that way when you are using DA lenses optimized for APS on APS with FF lenses which are optimized for FF but not using them FF and are only using them on APS. Sure there is no Pentax FF DSLR camera at this point but dont mistakenly blame the FF lenses for not perfoming well on APS, blame pentax for the lack of a FF DSLR body that would allow them to outperform the best DA lenses. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:02 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? On Feb 7, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: It must be nice to be able to spend large sums of money to replace perfectly function lenses for a marginal increase in performance and functionality. Mandated deprication (read: loss of aperture coupler) aside, obtaining 95% of the optical performance for 10% of the expense sounds like a winning proposition to me. That is why I shoot pre-AF lenses I would rather get 10x the lenses producing 95% the performance of newer varieties. It's not a matter of 'being able to spend large sums of money'. I depend upon these tools to produce my work and make my living. I want the best tools that exploit *all* the features of the body which I paid for. When I started with Pentax, I knew little about the line and bought a bunch of older lenses, all in pretty good condition, inexpensively. I used them for a while to sort out what I wanted for the kit, and sold them all at a fair price, which turned out to make a small profit. I took that money and bought the new lenses which I found did the job for my work. I only use five or six lenses total, and mostly just three. I rarely hang on to equipment I don't actually need. I'd rather have three superb lenses producing the best possible performance than thirty old lenses which don't perform quite as well. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner
Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece http://tinyurl.com/373zmj So who's down and out so far? Agfa and Forte? Anyone else? I really expected Kodak to be the last man standing. This could be good or bad. With any luck the old men in the white tower in Rochester will sell off the film division. Hopefully to a company who has an interest in making film products. I'd like to think that Fuji or Ilford may have an interest in Kodak's technology, at the very least. My instinct tells me that Kodak doesn't have a clue, though, and will probably just shut it down. Either way, this makes what's left of the film market a bit less competitive. The few players remaining may have a better chance of surviving it longer. Rumour has it that Forte's factory may have been sold. But it seriously needed an upgrade (they were running pre-WW2 equipment). Kodak wants to sell its film line, not shut it down. I suspect that if they sell it, the film unit will outlast Kodak proper. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
In a message dated 2/8/2007 9:19:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The one near Yreka is, also, a Scott Valley. It's well up north, not far from the small town of Fort Jones. === Fort Jones is IN Scott Valley. Yup, that's the one. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: combat photography
On 2/8/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:32:14AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/7/2007 9:11:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try the Polo then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1aVSXvcV3M William Robb = That has got to be one of the worst commercials, ever. Like in really, really, really bad taste. Marnie aka Doe But strangely funny. This one (for the ford Ka) runs it pretty close for bad taste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTCf2Z50ohU Thanks, John. I needed that. First time I laughed out loud all day. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A 400/2.8 and A70-210/4
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:22:23PM -0500, Jim King wrote: Thanks (I think) for the post, Igor. I've been looking for a copy of this monster in reasonably good condition and at a reasonable price for my collection of A and A* primes. I pulled the trigger and ordered it from Adorama today. Isn't this list useful? It was the PDML that told me about a 250-600. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 08/02/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 01:50:07PM +, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1from=R10satitle=usb+scsi+%28converter%2Cadapter%29 or tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/23kkcf Maybe there are PCMCIA SCSI cards out there too? There are. I found a couple of them on eBay, too. I may have to get one just for GFM. Cool, I'd guess they shoould be better, for not having the bottleneck of USB1.1 in the way. A vanilla PCMCIA card will still be a pretty bad bottleneck; I'm not sure what their maximum transfer rate is, but it isn't all that great. A good point. I did a little googling, PCMCIA is 16MB/s (16bits @ 8MHz - the old ISA standard) so should be fast enough for FastSCSI. Cardbus is [EMAIL PROTECTED] so easily fast enough. What you really want (assuming your laptop supports it, of course) is a cardbus card. These are, naturally, more expensive :-(. They look just like a PCMCIA card (except for a gold stripe). I can't remember when laptop manufacturers started putting cardbus-compatible slots in machines, but it was at least five years ago. Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
Quoting Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bill, I respectfully disagree with you here. Your achievements have nothing to do with whether someone else knows what they're talking about. True, but they at least give my opinions some credibility My objective opinion is that this thread is degenerating into a war of harsh words, when you both, in reality, believe exactly the same thing. There was a hint that because I am finding the options that lenses designed to complement my camera give me are desirable, that i am somehow a lazy photographer. I take umbrage with that. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
Nice capture. Reminds me of buildings I've seen in Bodie, Ca, The Grand Tetons Wyoming. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Homestead This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of money -- with a cattle ranch. :-) When I went up to northern Northern California to visit Scott Valley where my father grew up, I went around and looked at historical sites, especially sites related to my family. Most all I had seen before, but when I was much younger so it was good to revisit them. The ranch is still there, owned by two doctor brothers as a tax write-off. They, very nicely, have preserved all the old buildings. It wasn't very big, about 10x10' or 10x15' with a low roof. A larger house was built much later. It snows up there in the winter, sometimes a lot. They would have lived crowded into this little cabin in heavy snow. I wasn't using a tripod, and I think it's just semi-interesting, but the BW conversion seems okay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/homestead.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?
It's Dead Jim. It ain't dead, its just resting. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium? ROTFLMAO P. J. Alling wrote: McCoy It's Dead Jim. /mccoy Paul Stenquist wrote: Do you think maybe it's not getting enough water? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5568636size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you only consider one parameter when you are making an equipment purchase you are a fool. Did anyone say that? Glass quality is certainly the most important part of a lens buying decision, but it isn't the only part. In context, a couple of people on list have noted that the newer lenses do a better job of rendering images onto the DSLR sensor. Isn't that what's important? It certainly could be. When you start shooting large format cameras and hump 50 or more pounds of equipment into the field, when you win a few awards with your pictures, and when you start earning a living with your camera (all of which I have done), you can start talking to me about operator error/incompetence/laziness. Until then, you are just another person who doesn't know what they are talking about pissing into the wind. Regards William Robb Bill, I respectfully disagree with you here. Your achievements have nothing to do with whether someone else knows what they're talking about. My objective opinion is that this thread is degenerating into a war of harsh words, when you both, in reality, believe exactly the same thing. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: War Photographer
On 2/7/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The look kinda like ammo cans, but they're very small. They fit 6 or 8 35mm cassettes side by side. Once the kids are in bed I'll grab a still from the movie so everyone can see what I'm trying to describe. I couldn't get a screen shot. Every time I tried the picture just blacked out. I'm guessing some sort of DRM is coming into play here. I'll keep looking. Anyone have Nachtwey's email address? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
Quoting Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Composition trumps all. :-) At least is is actually completely separate from equipment. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner
On 2/8/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: I really expected Kodak to be the last man standing. I wasn't very clear. What I meant to say was that I expected to Kodak to hold on to the film business to the bitter end. boggle You must be referring to a different Kodak than the one I've been observing for the past 20 years or so! I'm surprised they've survived this long, given their management. If Kodak wasn't planning on selling off their film division(s) before, they'd better be now because the rumor alone is going to decrease the value of anything associated with the word film. They need to sell ASAP while they still can. My bets: Fuji to take the motion picture stuff. Most other stuff to be split off every which way. Except Kodachrome, which will die a quiet death. I agree somewhat. Kodachrome will die. Who would really want to take that off their hands? Fuji and others could probably make use of Kodak's film technology. But my real guess is that Kodak will blow it and all of their film products will die along with them. I hope I'm wrong. I'd like to be able to buy Tri-X (even if it's Fuji or Ilford Tri-X) for the next decade or two. Something I hadn't thought of earlier is that Lucky may end up with at least some of it. Not sure if that would be good for product quality, but if they get the emulsion right it wouldn't be all bad. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
In a message dated 2/8/2007 9:13:59 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of money -- with a cattle ranch. :-) ... I wasn't using a tripod, and I think it's just semi-interesting, but the BW conversion seems okay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/homestead.htm It's a good photo, with interesting composition and textures. I think it might be nicer if printed down a little deeper: the rendering on my screen seems a bit on the hot/light side. Godfrey = Could be, had to use shadows/highlights to lighten the deep shadow at the top. May have done it too much. I will play with it. Thanks for the input, Godfrey. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Homestead
In a message dated 2/8/2007 8:44:59 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He might have made more money if his house had three other sides.vbg Sorry, feebel humor atttempt. I like the shot and the conversion. Good detail in the logs and window. Dave = Thanks, Dave. Marnie aka Doe :-) On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of money -- with a cattle ranch. :-) When I went up to northern Northern California to visit Scott Valley where my father grew up, I went around and looked at historical sites, especially sites related to my family. Most all I had seen before, but when I was much younger so it was good to revisit them. The ranch is still there, owned by two doctor brothers as a tax write-off. They, very nicely, have preserved all the old buildings. It wasn't very big, about 10x10' or 10x15' with a low roof. A larger house was built much later. It snows up there in the winter, sometimes a lot. They would have lived crowded into this little cabin in heavy snow. I wasn't using a tripod, and I think it's just semi-interesting, but the BW conversion seems okay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/homestead.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you really want (assuming your laptop supports it, of course) is a cardbus card. These are, naturally, more expensive :-(. They look just like a PCMCIA card (except for a gold stripe). I can't remember when laptop manufacturers started putting cardbus-compatible slots in machines, but it was at least five years ago. Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( I wouldn't buy a Cardbus-SCSI converter, because that's too much to spend for a few grins at GFM! But I might be interested in a FireWire-SCSI converter becaue I could also use it on my desktop machine and get rid of my SCSI card. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: NO FS this Friday?
Screw you, I know more about what I was talking about and what I posted than you do. when I was talking about the imaging capability IN THIS THREAD, of course I was referring to optical qualities of FF(legacy? - not my term) lenses on APS/Future FF digital vs DA lenses on APS digital which are format related issues. The feature sets have nothing to do with this optical issues. There are already FF lenses with the same feature sets as DA lenses anyway. My comments were not limted to pre-AF lenses, I was referring to ALL FF lenses in comparison to DA lenses on each of the APS/FF formats. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:56 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? All of my comments made in this thread regarding APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related to format (sensor) size, not feature set issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether. Bullshit. It's part and parcel of what the lens can do. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
Eric Featherstone wrote: Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( http://www.synchrotech.com/product-1394/firewire-uscsi-conv_01.html Under $80.00! I'm gonna get one! OK everyone going to GFM: You'll be able to shoot medium format BW for the digital photo contest! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: NO FS this Friday?
On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a hint that because I am finding the options that lenses designed to complement my camera give me are desirable, that i am somehow a lazy photographer. I take umbrage with that. If you weren't lazy you'd be toting a ten pound Canon. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner
On 2/8/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rumour has it that Forte's factory may have been sold. But it seriously needed an upgrade (they were running pre-WW2 equipment). Kodak wants to sell its film line, not shut it down. I suspect that if they sell it, the film unit will outlast Kodak proper. It doesn't matter if they want to sell it. What matters is closing the deal. I doubt the imbeciles in Rochester can pull it off. They'll figure out an elaborate way to botch the whole thing. Besides, when it comes to dealing with other companies, Kodak doesn't have the shiniest record. They seem to be good at acquiring other companies and then running their products into the ground. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Long-delayed GFM shots
On 2/8/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you really want (assuming your laptop supports it, of course) is a cardbus card. These are, naturally, more expensive :-(. They look just like a PCMCIA card (except for a gold stripe). I can't remember when laptop manufacturers started putting cardbus-compatible slots in machines, but it was at least five years ago. Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( I wouldn't buy a Cardbus-SCSI converter, because that's too much to spend for a few grins at GFM! But I might be interested in a FireWire-SCSI converter becaue I could also use it on my desktop machine and get rid of my SCSI card. Who wants what as far as developer goes? I brought HC-110 last year. If you're shooting slower film I could grab some Ilfosol. D-76, Rodinal? Anyone got a portable darkroom tent? We could set up an enlarger and make prints! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: NO FS this Friday?
Quoting J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Screw you, I know more about what I was talking about and what I posted than you do. Nice that you think so. Dag, Godfrey and myself all seem to have experienced something that disagrees with you regarding film optimized lenses though. Pentax and the other lens manufacturers seem to think lenses need to be optimized for digital as well. I suppose you are saying screw you to their optical engineers too? You don't know anywhere near as much as you think you do on this subject. Continue blowing hard though, you definitely know more about doing that than I do. William Robb -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner
On 2/08/07 12:45 PM, Adam Maas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kodak wants to sell its film line, not shut it down. I suspect that if they sell it, the film unit will outlast Kodak proper. I understand that Fuji has been instigating return to film (paraphrasing) campaign for quite some time. Not really a front line flashy one, but quiet and persistent one. I read their management interview, betting that, when digital fever begin to subside, it will be followed by the resurgence of film. I think they actually believe it (not motivated by film biz promotion alone). If they are serious about it, and persevere to preserve at least the minimum film development/production capability, it is admirable. At least in Japan, many (do not know the proportion) advanced amateurs are slowly returning to film. I am sure some are very fussy about the image quality and they prefer film rendition, yet some are sick of too fast a product cycle of essentially the same thing etc. I am sure they of course use DSLR as well, but just reflecting on the advantageous parts of film. Some probably do not like the trend that the photography has turned into a processing by computer geeks rather than true sense of it, etc etc. Curious to know exactly what are driving them back to film. No, I am not a film advocate, just passing info :-) Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
