Re: PESO: Wasp
Thanks Paul. Cheers, Dave On Nov 13, 2007 3:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like it. Good detail, nice color, and I find the expansive environment visually pleasing. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9021.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Wasp
:-) Thanks Igor. Cheers, Dave On Nov 13, 2007 5:23 AM, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Godfrey. You might need a debugger! :-) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9021.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Wasp
On Nov 13, 2007 4:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice, David. Thanks Godfrey. Even though it's a bug shot. ];-) It could be worse... ...I took a whole bunch of cat photos too :-) Cheers, Dave On Nov 12, 2007, at 7:23 AM, David Savage wrote: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9021.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Wasp
On Nov 13, 2007 5:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/12/2007 10:33:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: G'day All, One from this weekends bug hunt (~120kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9021.jpg K10D, Voigtlander 125mm f2.5 Macro, 1/200 @ f8, ISO 400 All comments welcome. Cheers, Dave === Very nice! Good brokeh, too -- I like the way the green pattern at the bottom sort of mirrors some of the bee pattern. Well done. Thank you Marnie. The background/patterns are what made this shot stand out from the others I took. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bowling Night
On Nov 13, 2007 11:13 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another pic from my bowling alley shoot of ten days ago. K10D with DA 16-45/4, f4.5 @ 1/30th, 5 40 flash off ceiling with reflector card raised. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg There's a bit of the dreaded vertical pattern noise in that one. Re the motion blur, how many beers did you have? ;-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Clasp
It doesn't. And you might want to extend that theme by adding a very small amount of Gaussian Blur. That would make them more uniformly soft. Might be a nice effect here. Paul On Nov 12, 2007, at 10:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/12/2007 6:54:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Beautiful and moving. The softness is appropriate. Paul === Thanks, Paul. I thought it might not matter than much. Marnie aka Doe :-) On Nov 12, 2007, at 7:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For various reasons, I have not shown these before. These are among the last clasps... Both are soft, again, probably for obvious reasons, the first softer than the second. But I don't think they are too bad. They are what I got and obviously can't be reshot. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp1.htm http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp2.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http:// www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More industrial nights and magic
On Nov 13, 2007 3:13 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Ralf, Don't you ever get tired of making stunning night image after night image? grin Another great shot! Kinda' makes you wish you had some heavy industry nearby to shoot. :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Odd Couple
I think you've used up all your bandwidth Jack. I keep getting this message when trying to view any of your recent PESO's: Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80004005' System resource exceeded. /aspupload/detail.asp, line 19 Cheers, Dave On Nov 13, 2007 2:18 AM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last of my Sunday afternoon experiments, about which I'm, also, luke warm. I chose to even the background rather than straighten up the mail boxes. Didn't notice at the time, but they had to have been on a slope. Looks like the blue box was tagged by either a pigeon or a vandal. If it had been done by an irate ex postal worker, those white spots would be bullet holes. Thanks for ANY comments. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=259 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bowling Night
No beers at this point:-). But I was working rapidly and trying for some motion blur induced by subject movement. But I can see that I'm the one who moved here. I don't see the vertical pattern noise. Where do you see it? I'll post an enlarged clip. I've examined the tiff at up to 200%. There's some conventional noise -- it's ISO 500 -- but nothing that appears to create a pattern of any sort. On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:01 AM, David Savage wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 11:13 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another pic from my bowling alley shoot of ten days ago. K10D with DA 16-45/4, f4.5 @ 1/30th, 5 40 flash off ceiling with reflector card raised. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg There's a bit of the dreaded vertical pattern noise in that one. Re the motion blur, how many beers did you have? ;-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bowling Night
On Nov 13, 2007 8:55 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see the vertical pattern noise. Where do you see it? I'll post an enlarged clip. I've examined the tiff at up to 200%. There's some conventional noise -- it's ISO 500 -- but nothing that appears to create a pattern of any sort. Odd. it's quite obvious to me in the dark shirts of the 2 nearest ladies. It's not particularly strong, but the vertical banding is there. Cheers, Dave http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bowling Night
Paul, I can't make out Dave's vertical banding, but can see the blur. It confuses me because parts of the flash shot look sharp and others not. Were you trying for a combination of flash and ambient lighting? Regards, Bob S. On Nov 13, 2007 6:20 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 8:55 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see the vertical pattern noise. Where do you see it? I'll post an enlarged clip. I've examined the tiff at up to 200%. There's some conventional noise -- it's ISO 500 -- but nothing that appears to create a pattern of any sort. Odd. it's quite obvious to me in the dark shirts of the 2 nearest ladies. It's not particularly strong, but the vertical banding is there. Cheers, Dave http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Clasp
They are touching photos and an obvious end to you hands series. Regards, Bob S. On Nov 12, 2007 6:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For various reasons, I have not shown these before. These are among the last clasps... Both are soft, again, probably for obvious reasons, the first softer than the second. But I don't think they are too bad. They are what I got and obviously can't be reshot. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp1.htm http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp2.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Wasp
Nice catch! Good DoF and sharpness on the wasp and pretty good bokeh as well as some interesting patterns in the background. -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9021.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47397cc182762794516608! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bowling Night
I had to look a long time, but vertical banding seems to show up in the black t-shirts. Ed On Nov 13, 2007 7:20 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 8:55 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see the vertical pattern noise. Where do you see it? I'll post an enlarged clip. I've examined the tiff at up to 200%. There's some conventional noise -- it's ISO 500 -- but nothing that appears to create a pattern of any sort. Odd. it's quite obvious to me in the dark shirts of the 2 nearest ladies. It's not particularly strong, but the vertical banding is there. Cheers, Dave http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bowling Night
I find this interesting, because I've always wondered what people were referring to when they complained about vertical banding. I've posted 200% sections of the two black shirts. The exposure speed here is probably closer to ISO 1000, even though these were shot at ISO 500. To avoid losing highlights in the background I had to underexpose the foreground a bit and then brighten the shadows and midrange in conversion. I'm sure I pushed them up close to a full stop. With this extreme magnification I can see the colors that make up the black coming apart. I think it's a stretch to call it vertical banding. It's normal digital noise, what you'd get with almost any camera at this high an ISO. The only way I've ever been able to see something that actually looked like banding was shooting the inside of the lens cap and pushing it umpteen stops. Here are the clips: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6635580 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6635578 Paul On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:20 AM, David Savage wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 8:55 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see the vertical pattern noise. Where do you see it? I'll post an enlarged clip. I've examined the tiff at up to 200%. There's some conventional noise -- it's ISO 500 -- but nothing that appears to create a pattern of any sort. Odd. it's quite obvious to me in the dark shirts of the 2 nearest ladies. It's not particularly strong, but the vertical banding is there. Cheers, Dave http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bowling Night
Yes, a combination of flash and ambient. I wanted some motion blur in the shots of the bowlers (which proved to be a problem for other reasons), and I wanted the background to be lit. In the areas where the flash is most powerful it drowns out the motion blur. Paul On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Paul, I can't make out Dave's vertical banding, but can see the blur. It confuses me because parts of the flash shot look sharp and others not. Were you trying for a combination of flash and ambient lighting? Regards, Bob S. On Nov 13, 2007 6:20 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 8:55 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see the vertical pattern noise. Where do you see it? I'll post an enlarged clip. I've examined the tiff at up to 200%. There's some conventional noise -- it's ISO 500 -- but nothing that appears to create a pattern of any sort. Odd. it's quite obvious to me in the dark shirts of the 2 nearest ladies. It's not particularly strong, but the vertical banding is there. Cheers, Dave http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bowling Night
Viewing at magnification doesn't highlight this problem, it masks it. (If you sand with your nose up against a tree all you see is bark. Step back a ways and you'll see the forest ;-) As I said it's not the worst example of the phenomenon, but I've viewed this shot on 2 different monitors now I can still see it. Anyway, enough of this dirge, back to photos Pentax talk. Cheers, Dave On Nov 13, 2007 10:23 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find this interesting, because I've always wondered what people were referring to when they complained about vertical banding. I've posted 200% sections of the two black shirts. The exposure speed here is probably closer to ISO 1000, even though these were shot at ISO 500. To avoid losing highlights in the background I had to underexpose the foreground a bit and then brighten the shadows and midrange in conversion. I'm sure I pushed them up close to a full stop. With this extreme magnification I can see the colors that make up the black coming apart. I think it's a stretch to call it vertical banding. It's normal digital noise, what you'd get with almost any camera at this high an ISO. The only way I've ever been able to see something that actually looked like banding was shooting the inside of the lens cap and pushing it umpteen stops. Here are the clips: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6635580 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6635578 Paul On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:20 AM, David Savage wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 8:55 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see the vertical pattern noise. Where do you see it? I'll post an enlarged clip. I've examined the tiff at up to 200%. There's some conventional noise -- it's ISO 500 -- but nothing that appears to create a pattern of any sort. Odd. it's quite obvious to me in the dark shirts of the 2 nearest ladies. It's not particularly strong, but the vertical banding is there. Cheers, Dave http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Odd Couple
Wish I had a clue as to why, so I could comment. Yours is the only such message I've gotten. Thanks for the advice, David. :-/ Jack --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you've used up all your bandwidth Jack. I keep getting this message when trying to view any of your recent PESO's: Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80004005' System resource exceeded. /aspupload/detail.asp, line 19 Cheers, Dave On Nov 13, 2007 2:18 AM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last of my Sunday afternoon experiments, about which I'm, also, luke warm. I chose to even the background rather than straighten up the mail boxes. Didn't notice at the time, but they had to have been on a slope. Looks like the blue box was tagged by either a pigeon or a vandal. If it had been done by an irate ex postal worker, those white spots would be bullet holes. Thanks for ANY comments. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=259 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Odd Couple
On Nov 13, 2007 10:39 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wish I had a clue as to why, so I could comment. Yours is the only such message I've gotten. Thanks for the advice, David. :-/ I just tried again it's working fine now. I dunno what was wrong before. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Clasp
Marnie, The first one just looks out of focus. The second one, though, has a shallow DOF that works very well. I respect very much all the emotional work you've done to be able to share these. Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For various reasons, I have not shown these before. These are among the last clasps... Both are soft, again, probably for obvious reasons, the first softer than the second. But I don't think they are too bad. They are what I got and obviously can't be reshot. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp1.htm http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp2.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Wasp
Very nice! I don't like getting close enough to those things to photograph them. BTW, how do you get the watermark on the lower right corner of your images? Rick --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, One from this weekends bug hunt (~120kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9021.jpg K10D, Voigtlander 125mm f2.5 Macro, 1/200 @ f8, ISO 400 All comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2007 - 47a - GDG
Weird. I thought it was sideways until I noticed the birds. You're messin' with my mind, here, Godfrey! Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, simplify simplify ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47a.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Clasp
In a message dated 11/13/2007 7:04:25 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, The first one just looks out of focus. The second one, though, has a shallow DOF that works very well. I respect very much all the emotional work you've done to be able to share these. Rick = Thanks, Rick. Well, it is a little hard to take a hand pic, when one hand is busy and one is not using a tripod. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Clasp
In a message dated 11/13/2007 3:07:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It doesn't. And you might want to extend that theme by adding a very small amount of Gaussian Blur. That would make them more uniformly soft. Might be a nice effect here. Paul == Hmmm, that might be a very good idea. Thanks, Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Wasp
Lightroom will automatically add a Watermark at Export if you've configured it to. -Adam Rick Womer wrote: Very nice! I don't like getting close enough to those things to photograph them. BTW, how do you get the watermark on the lower right corner of your images? Rick --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, One from this weekends bug hunt (~120kb): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9021.jpg K10D, Voigtlander 125mm f2.5 Macro, 1/200 @ f8, ISO 400 All comments welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Clasp
In a message dated 11/13/2007 4:23:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They are touching photos and an obvious end to you hands series. Regards, Bob S. = Thanks, Bob. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Odd Couple
Good...and I won't put you under the pressure of commenting. ;-)) Jack --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 10:39 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wish I had a clue as to why, so I could comment. Yours is the only such message I've gotten. Thanks for the advice, David. :-/ I just tried again it's working fine now. I dunno what was wrong before. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)
I think it's important to make it clear that, for many, digital noise isn't necessarily a problem. And in any case, it's certainly not exclusive to Pentax. At the very least it's no more of a problem than is grain in film photography. I think any vertical pattern here exists more in your mind than in the image. If one tries hard enough, one can find a pattern in almost any random array. It's like finding the cloud that looks like an elephant :-). Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Viewing at magnification doesn't highlight this problem, it masks it. (If you sand with your nose up against a tree all you see is bark. Step back a ways and you'll see the forest ;-) As I said it's not the worst example of the phenomenon, but I've viewed this shot on 2 different monitors now I can still see it. Anyway, enough of this dirge, back to photos Pentax talk. Cheers, Dave On Nov 13, 2007 10:23 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find this interesting, because I've always wondered what people were referring to when they complained about vertical banding. I've posted 200% sections of the two black shirts. The exposure speed here is probably closer to ISO 1000, even though these were shot at ISO 500. To avoid losing highlights in the background I had to underexpose the foreground a bit and then brighten the shadows and midrange in conversion. I'm sure I pushed them up close to a full stop. With this extreme magnification I can see the colors that make up the black coming apart. I think it's a stretch to call it vertical banding. It's normal digital noise, what you'd get with almost any camera at this high an ISO. The only way I've ever been able to see something that actually looked like banding was shooting the inside of the lens cap and pushing it umpteen stops. Here are the clips: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6635580 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6635578 Paul On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:20 AM, David Savage wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 8:55 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see the vertical pattern noise. Where do you see it? I'll post an enlarged clip. I've examined the tiff at up to 200%. There's some conventional noise -- it's ISO 500 -- but nothing that appears to create a pattern of any sort. Odd. it's quite obvious to me in the dark shirts of the 2 nearest ladies. It's not particularly strong, but the vertical banding is there. Cheers, Dave http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digital Noise (Was Re: PESO: Bowling Night)
Note that since the pixels are arrayed in a grid pattern, any random noise will acquire a modicum of pattern simply due to the pixel matrix. -Adam Who's DS does exhibit quite distinct banding occasionally at ISO 3200. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's important to make it clear that, for many, digital noise isn't necessarily a problem. And in any case, it's certainly not exclusive to Pentax. At the very least it's no more of a problem than is grain in film photography. I think any vertical pattern here exists more in your mind than in the image. If one tries hard enough, one can find a pattern in almost any random array. It's like finding the cloud that looks like an elephant :-). Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Viewing at magnification doesn't highlight this problem, it masks it. (If you sand with your nose up against a tree all you see is bark. Step back a ways and you'll see the forest ;-) As I said it's not the worst example of the phenomenon, but I've viewed this shot on 2 different monitors now I can still see it. Anyway, enough of this dirge, back to photos Pentax talk. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Clasp
On 12/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp1.htm http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp2.htm Comments welcome. Very moving Marnie. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Clasp
In a message dated 11/13/2007 8:22:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 12/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp1.htm http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp2.htm Comments welcome. Very moving Marnie. -- Cheers, Cotty Thanks, Cotty. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Clasp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For various reasons, I have not shown these before. These are among the last clasps... Both are soft, again, probably for obvious reasons, the first softer than the second. But I don't think they are too bad. They are what I got and obviously can't be reshot. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp1.htm http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp2.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - hard to look at - brought me to tears ann Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: My SMC Pentax K 3.5 15mm is up for auction at ebay now
Gone already. For 600 USD (bargain price, I guess). In less than 24 hours. To Hong Kong. I hope the new owner there likes it too. However, my new rectiliniar zoom - a SIGMA 10-20mm F4-5.6 DC EX does quite a nice job too. Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jens Bladt Sendt: 12. november 2007 21:39 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: My SMC Pentax K 3.5 15mm is up for auction at ebay now Hello list For anyone who needs a nice SMC Pentax K- 3.5 15mm rectiliniar wide angle - for analog or digital Pentax cameras: It's for slae on ebay now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=190173324770ssPageN ame=STRK:MESE:ITih=009 Please feel free to ask any questions you might have... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 - No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1126 - Release Date: 11/12/2007 12:56 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1126 - Release Date: 11/12/2007 12:56 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1128 - Release Date: 11/13/2007 11:09 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Clasp
In a message dated 11/13/2007 9:01:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hard to look at - brought me to tears ann === The other reason the focus was a bit off at the time. And why it's taken me this long to show them. However, I think now is about time to finally put together a hand gallery -- shot at various times. Over the next month or so I will work on it. Thanks for looking, ann. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bowling Night
In a message dated 11/13/2007 5:27:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I find this interesting, because I've always wondered what people were referring to when they complained about vertical banding. I've posted 200% sections of the two black shirts. The exposure speed here is probably closer to ISO 1000, even though these were shot at ISO 500. To avoid losing highlights in the background I had to underexpose the foreground a bit and then brighten the shadows and midrange in conversion. I'm sure I pushed them up close to a full stop. With this extreme magnification I can see the colors that make up the black coming apart. I think it's a stretch to call it vertical banding. It's normal digital noise, what you'd get with almost any camera at this high an ISO. The only way I've ever been able to see something that actually looked like banding was shooting the inside of the lens cap and pushing it umpteen stops. Here are the clips: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6635580 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6635578 Paul == I really didn't notice it in the original photo. Maybe some people have better monitors than I do. And I can only just see it in your extreme close ups. I've had banding in shots (with Canon) at high ISO and it's much more obvious than that. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My new toy
Hi! And yet another shameless plug of my underdeveloped photo blog. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2007/11/my-new-toy-lens.html Thanks to a fellow PDMLer whom I'd like to thank great many times, I now have my own SMCP DA 21/3.2 AL Limited lens. Cheers. Boris. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My new toy
On 2007-11-13, at 19:15, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! And yet another shameless plug of my underdeveloped photo blog. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2007/11/my-new-toy-lens.html Thanks to a fellow PDMLer whom I'd like to thank great many times, I now have my own SMCP DA 21/3.2 AL Limited lens. I hate you very much Boris :-D Let us know what you think about this lens when you play with it for a while ;-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My new toy
So, you finally bought a DA lens...the resistance lost one of its most distinguished members. ;-) Welcome to the DA lenses club. Now, should I join the DA prime club?...aghhh (I think I'll manage to resist until the January big announcements) Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net; PAW Project Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado: martes, 13 de noviembre, 2007 19:15:07 Asunto: My new toy Hi! And yet another shameless plug of my underdeveloped photo blog. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2007/11/my-new-toy-lens.html Thanks to a fellow PDMLer whom I'd like to thank great many times, I now have my own SMCP DA 21/3.2 AL Limited lens. Cheers. Boris. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Pregunta, Responde, Descubre. Comparte tus consejos y opiniones con los usuarios de Yahoo! Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
photo.net upgrades
Photo.net suprised me with some nice new features yesterday. Most importantly, it's now possible to rearrange the photos in any of your folders just by dragging and dropping. And it happens in real time. That's a huge improvement. Photos and folders open very rapidly. The workspace page now lists all your folders and links to rarrange photos or add photos for each. And every time you go to your workspace, four of your photos are displayed. They're apparently selected randomly. For someone like me with more than 500 pics on the site, it's a lot of fun to see what comes up. Oh! I remember that. Better delete it:-). Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Odd Couple
Works for me. The Internet is a wonderland of mystery and strange behaviour. I, for example, can never see any of Christian's web pages. This is probably something to do with my firewall and Christian's unorthodox web address, and I'm probably missing something good, but I'm not messing around with my firewall, it scares me. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: 13 November 2007 11:12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Odd Couple I think you've used up all your bandwidth Jack. I keep getting this message when trying to view any of your recent PESO's: Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80004005' System resource exceeded. /aspupload/detail.asp, line 19 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My SMC Pentax K 3.5 15mm is up for auction at ebay now
I think prices on most Pentax lenses are still going up, but the 15/3.5 variants, which were very costly a few years ago, might be an exception. Both the DA 14/2.8 and the DA 12-24 are as good or better, wider, and t less expensive. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes. The researched going price in excellent (perfect glass, great cosmetics) is ~US$900 (aboutt $700-$1100) depending on where you look for the completed sales. I consider buying such things, waiting a couple months and reselling. Regards, Bob... -- Gort, klaatu barrada nikto! -- Guess the author! -- Guess the source! - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gone already. For 600 USD (bargain price, I guess). In less than 24 hours. To Hong Kong. I hope the new owner there likes it too. However, my new rectiliniar zoom - a SIGMA 10-20mm F4-5.6 DC EX does quite a nice job too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My SMC Pentax K 3.5 15mm is up for auction at ebay now
Yes. The researched going price in excellent (perfect glass, great cosmetics) is ~US$900 (aboutt $700-$1100) depending on where you look for the completed sales. I consider buying such things, waiting a couple months and reselling. Regards, Bob... -- Gort, klaatu barrada nikto! -- Guess the author! -- Guess the source! - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gone already. For 600 USD (bargain price, I guess). In less than 24 hours. To Hong Kong. I hope the new owner there likes it too. However, my new rectiliniar zoom - a SIGMA 10-20mm F4-5.6 DC EX does quite a nice job too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My new toy
I envy you. (mutter..mutter) Jack ;) --- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! And yet another shameless plug of my underdeveloped photo blog. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2007/11/my-new-toy-lens.html Thanks to a fellow PDMLer whom I'd like to thank great many times, I now have my own SMCP DA 21/3.2 AL Limited lens. Cheers. Boris. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Odd Couple
Yes, a 'minefield' of mysteries!! Jack --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works for me. The Internet is a wonderland of mystery and strange behaviour. I, for example, can never see any of Christian's web pages. This is probably something to do with my firewall and Christian's unorthodox web address, and I'm probably missing something good, but I'm not messing around with my firewall, it scares me. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: 13 November 2007 11:12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Odd Couple I think you've used up all your bandwidth Jack. I keep getting this message when trying to view any of your recent PESO's: Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80004005' System resource exceeded. /aspupload/detail.asp, line 19 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso: Johanna V2. Cropping alternatives
From: Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:21 AM Subject: Re: Geso: Johanna V2. Cropping alternatives I prefer #3 - there's something mysterious about it. Lighting looks like a flashlight (torch). -p Hi Paul, Thanks for the feedback. You got yourself an icecream. In fact I didn't even have to go and buy it. I already had it in the fridge. I made you a real big bowl of it . It's sitting right before me at the moment and it's all yours. You can come and pick it up right away. Bring some girls too. :) Thanks, Lasse Lasse Karlsson wrote: Thanks again for the feedback on the first Johanna pics. I updated the Johanna gallery with tree new pictures. (Same occasion and location, just a little later, but shot with another body, lens and film type.) It's just one shot, but with two alternate croppings of it. They make out the first three pictures. The first picture is the original as it was shot. The next two are two different ways to crop it. I would be very interested to hear somebody else's view on the suggested croppings. Do they, or any of them work at all? Would you prefer any cropped version before the original? http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=782151 Just to add a bonus bait: If anyone can guess the lighting arrangement correctly, I'll buy you an icecream. Thanks, Lasse -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another Different Shot
Jack Davis wrote: This was once an active practice range which is located in a river bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross mismanagement. This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough under a brooding mantle. I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the mood. Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) Jack Comments sought. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 LIke it - although, would work fine in BW hmmm - yeah, might have a bit more impact but its nice as is... certainly ummm wait a min - one nit -- the can or whatever it is at the bottom left... I think a bit of cropping would make this alrady nice snap stronger. ann __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Wasp
On Nov 14, 2007 12:07 AM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice! I don't like getting close enough to those things to photograph them. Thanks Rick. Unless you attack the nest, or swallow one (They have a tendency to crawl into open soft drink cans) they're pretty benign BTW, how do you get the watermark on the lower right corner of your images? I use a Photoshop action which is a variation (I use text instead of a graphic) of the Digital Watermark Branding tutorial found here: http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html The beauty of this action is that it works on both portrait landscape shots. Cheers, Dave --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9021.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Paid For
Howdy, folks, Well, in a sense, my K10D just paid for itself and the *ist D and a couple of lenses, to boot. I shot a really big three-day amateur auto racing event this weekend, which I do every year. This is my second or third year shooting it on digital. Only this year did I really get into the digital swing of things, apparently ... I managed to take nearly 3,000 exposures home, not even counting the ones I deleted in the camera. The last time I shot film, it cost me about US$ 20 per 24-exposure roll for the film, developing, and medium res scanning. Had I been shooting film, last weekend would've cost me around US$ 2,500 in film and associated costs. But it wouldn't have ... on film, I'd never have tripped the shutter that many times. I think the most I ever shot in a four-day event on film was about 50 36 exposure rolls, which is 40% of 3,000 exposures. And I more commonly shot around 30 rolls of 36 each in a 4-day event. :-) I finally find that I'm doing more experimenting with digital as I'm finally getting it through my head that there's no significant additional cost per exposure. I'm taking shots I would never have tried before. I'm taking several of each shot so that hopefully I'll get an acceptable one. Tons of things that I'd never have been able to afford on film. That said, the chore of culling and post-processing 3,000 images is nothing to sneeze at. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Wasp
Thanks Steve. That Voigtlander lens is amazing. Cheers, Dave On Nov 13, 2007 9:43 PM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice catch! Good DoF and sharpness on the wasp and pretty good bokeh as well as some interesting patterns in the background. -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9021.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG
These were also made on the Sunday morning walk ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47b.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47c.htm Comments, critique, etc always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: These were also made on the Sunday morning walk ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47b.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47c.htm Comments, critique, etc always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey The tree trunks are pleasing, but leaves in snow? Godders? Kinda cliche for you isn't it? :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Odd Couple
At 12:50 AM 14/11/2007, Jack Davis wrote: Good...and I won't put you under the pressure of commenting. ;-)) I'll get around to it eventually... ...or not :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG
In a message dated 11/13/2007 3:47:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These were also made on the Sunday morning walk ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47b.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47c.htm Comments, critique, etc always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey === I really like the first. Love the colors. Not fond of the rendering on the second. HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another Different Shot
Thanks, Ann! It is such a hodge podge and didn't concern myself with that white thing lower left. I, also, thought the debris at the bottom suited the scene. Certainly could be easily cropped out with a nip on the right to balance it a little. Jack --- ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: This was once an active practice range which is located in a river bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross mismanagement. This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough under a brooding mantle. I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the mood. Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) Jack Comments sought. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 LIke it - although, would work fine in BW hmmm - yeah, might have a bit more impact but its nice as is... certainly ummm wait a min - one nit -- the can or whatever it is at the bottom left... I think a bit of cropping would make this alrady nice snap stronger. ann __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG
On Nov 13, 2007, at 4:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47b.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47c.htm I really like the first. Love the colors. Not fond of the rendering on the second. Thanks Marnie. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG
On Nov 13, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Christian wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47b.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47c.htm The tree trunks are pleasing, but leaves in snow? Godders? Kinda cliche for you isn't it? :-) Thanks Christian. It's not snow, however. Hasn't snowed here in Silly Valley at this elevation in many years. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso: Johanna V2. Cropping alternatives
I'm on my way...all I need is your address. ;} -p Lasse Karlsson wrote: Hi Paul, Thanks for the feedback. You got yourself an icecream. In fact I didn't even have to go and buy it. I already had it in the fridge. I made you a real big bowl of it . It's sitting right before me at the moment and it's all yours. You can come and pick it up right away. Bring some girls too. :) Thanks, Lasse Lasse Karlsson wrote: Thanks again for the feedback on the first Johanna pics. I updated the Johanna gallery with tree new pictures. (Same occasion and location, just a little later, but shot with another body, lens and film type.) It's just one shot, but with two alternate croppings of it. They make out the first three pictures. The first picture is the original as it was shot. The next two are two different ways to crop it. I would be very interested to hear somebody else's view on the suggested croppings. Do they, or any of them work at all? Would you prefer any cropped version before the original? http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=782151 Just to add a bonus bait: If anyone can guess the lighting arrangement correctly, I'll buy you an icecream. Thanks, Lasse -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another Different Shot
Jack, Link works about 1 of 3 times for me. No problem though, I don't care much for the picture... The rest of your stuff is so much better. Regards, Bob S. On Nov 13, 2007 6:56 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Ann! It is such a hodge podge and didn't concern myself with that white thing lower left. I, also, thought the debris at the bottom suited the scene. Certainly could be easily cropped out with a nip on the right to balance it a little. Jack --- ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: This was once an active practice range which is located in a river bottom. It struggled for awhile, but was done in by gross mismanagement. This pretty much describes my golf game. Out of bounds, in the rough under a brooding mantle. I thought the debris, etc., included in the foreground enforced the mood. Plywood golfer is how we all 'pose' when we think we've hit an impressive shot...and someones watching. ;) Jack Comments sought. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=258 LIke it - although, would work fine in BW hmmm - yeah, might have a bit more impact but its nice as is... certainly ummm wait a min - one nit -- the can or whatever it is at the bottom left... I think a bit of cropping would make this alrady nice snap stronger. ann __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My new toy
Well, yes, you're right, Jaume. Jaume Lahuerta wrote: So, you finally bought a DA lens...the resistance lost one of its most distinguished members. ;-) Welcome to the DA lenses club. Now, should I join the DA prime club?...aghhh (I think I'll manage to resist until the January big announcements) You probably know more than I do regarding this announcements ;-). But I just needed a small and good wide lens for my stable. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bowling Night
Hmmm. Paul, I thought bowling was actually a kind of sport. So how come one would smoke and eat potato chips (French fries?!) during the game? Just kidding. There is very strange sense of motion around these four people in the front... Boris Paul Stenquist wrote: Another pic from my bowling alley shoot of ten days ago. K10D with DA 16-45/4, f4.5 @ 1/30th, 5 40 flash off ceiling with reflector card raised. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso: Johanna V2. Cropping alternatives
The third from the left on the gallery page is the ultimate best. Boris Lasse Karlsson wrote: Thanks again for the feedback on the first Johanna pics. I updated the Johanna gallery with tree new pictures. (Same occasion and location, just a little later, but shot with another body, lens and film type.) It's just one shot, but with two alternate croppings of it. They make out the first three pictures. The first picture is the original as it was shot. The next two are two different ways to crop it. I would be very interested to hear somebody else's view on the suggested croppings. Do they, or any of them work at all? Would you prefer any cropped version before the original? http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=782151 Just to add a bonus bait: If anyone can guess the lighting arrangement correctly, I'll buy you an icecream. Thanks, Lasse -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A question about chimping
Hi! I like chimping ;-). (Like - I am alcoholic) But I am curious ;-). Well, seriously now. On K10D one may zoom in as much as 20x into the image. Can anyone tell me what does it mean in terms of looking at the photo on the computer screen? And what is K10D equivalent of 100%? Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My new toy
Sylwek, I am taking this lens with me on the trip to Prague and it just seems to me ;) that it will be my primary lens for the trip. I hope that very soon I'll have enough shots to show ;-). Cheers! Boris Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: On 2007-11-13, at 19:15, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! And yet another shameless plug of my underdeveloped photo blog. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2007/11/my-new-toy-lens.html Thanks to a fellow PDMLer whom I'd like to thank great many times, I now have my own SMCP DA 21/3.2 AL Limited lens. I hate you very much Boris :-D Let us know what you think about this lens when you play with it for a while ;-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My new toy
Well, well... ;-) Jack Davis wrote: I envy you. (mutter..mutter) Jack ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bowling Night
Wow! I did not notice - they also drink beer! ;-) Boris Liberman wrote: Hmmm. Paul, I thought bowling was actually a kind of sport. So how come one would smoke and eat potato chips (French fries?!) during the game? Just kidding. There is very strange sense of motion around these four people in the front... Boris Paul Stenquist wrote: Another pic from my bowling alley shoot of ten days ago. K10D with DA 16-45/4, f4.5 @ 1/30th, 5 40 flash off ceiling with reflector card raised. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Last Clasp
They are beautiful, Marnie! Just beautiful. Boris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For various reasons, I have not shown these before. These are among the last clasps... Both are soft, again, probably for obvious reasons, the first softer than the second. But I don't think they are too bad. They are what I got and obviously can't be reshot. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp1.htm http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/clasp2.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A question about chimping
If you leave the JPEG settings at full resolution and normal defaults, approximately 8-12x will be close to 1:1 pixel resolution for checking sharpness. Since I capture exclusively in RAW format, I set JPEG settings to minimum size, sharpening and contrast so that the histogram is as close to what the RAW data should show as possible. 8x and the preview JPEG is looking a bit blurred in this case. So I rarely chimp at all ... I turn off auto-review. But I leave histogram and saturation blinkies running when I do digital preview for checking exposures intentionally. Godfrey On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:30 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: I like chimping ;-). (Like - I am alcoholic) But I am curious ;-). Well, seriously now. On K10D one may zoom in as much as 20x into the image. Can anyone tell me what does it mean in terms of looking at the photo on the computer screen? And what is K10D equivalent of 100%? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Odd Couple
On Nov 14, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Bob W wrote: The Internet is a wonderland of mystery and strange behaviour. I, for example, can never see any of Christian's web pages. This is probably something to do with my firewall and Christian's unorthodox web address, and I'm probably missing something good, but I'm not messing around with my firewall, it scares me. IIRC his hostname has an underscore which can cause problems as it technically violates the standards (which may have been updated since I had problems with this several years ago). I don't know who started allowing such domain names to become registered, but they're in common enough use now that everything should support them. However it would not surprise me if some systems are still set to refuse requests for such domain names. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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RE: PESO 2007 - 47b, 47c - GDG
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47b.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/47c.htm The tree trunks are pleasing, but leaves in snow? Godders? Kinda cliche for you isn't it? :-) Thanks Christian. It's not snow, however. Hasn't snowed here in Silly Valley at this elevation in many years. Godfrey Cocaine? -- Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Bowling Night
it takes dedication and training to achieve excellence in all 3 activities. This is one of the main reasons for choosing the East End of London to host the 2012 Olympic Games. For generations entire families there have given their lives to their training. Admittedly it has mostly been dedicated to darts, but bowling is also quite popular. Lets hope these magnificent athletes get their chance to compete in the Olympic games. There is very strange sense of motion around these four people in the front... I believe doctors call it Bellius maximus wobblissimus. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 14 November 2007 05:34 To: pdml@pdml.net Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Bowling Night Wow! I did not notice - they also drink beer! ;-) Boris Liberman wrote: Hmmm. Paul, I thought bowling was actually a kind of sport. So how come one would smoke and eat potato chips (French fries?!) during the game? Just kidding. There is very strange sense of motion around these four people in the front... Boris Paul Stenquist wrote: Another pic from my bowling alley shoot of ten days ago. K10D with DA 16-45/4, f4.5 @ 1/30th, 5 40 flash off ceiling with reflector card raised. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6634039size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
