Re: Tamron lens

2008-02-06 Thread Thibouille
And those Sigma HSM are incompatible with pre-K100DSuper/K10D AF-wise.

Oh, also to note that since a couple of those Sigma are 35mm lenses,
they will cover 'FF' format but... will not be able to AF with ANY
camera but K100Ds/K10D/K20D/K200D anfd later.

You probably know this but I wanna be sure everyone knows.

I still use a couple film cameras although lightly. I know I would
bitch not being able to AF with a 70-210/2.8 on my Z1 or an MZ-S.
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A couple Hi-res samples (very nice IMO)

2008-02-06 Thread Thibouille
Still from that Dubai meeting ;)
It is from early firmware but got the authorization to publish them
according to LetsGoDigital.

Each pics about 10Megs so modem users, get lost ! ;)

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/18238/pentax-k20d-sample-photos/

IMO well... I will try to find reason not to upgrade ;) I don't need
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Re: Big Freakin Lens

2008-02-06 Thread Igor Roshchin

Tue Feb 5 21:44:13 EST 2008
Timber wrote:

 Igor Roshchin wrote:
  That's the knife?.. (From Crocodile Dundee movie)
 
  http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp
  256 kg (564 lb) - that is the real lens!!!
 

 So expensive lens and no image stabilization? Everyone knows that teles 
 need IS for handheld photography! :P

Under 256 kg your hands won't be even shaking...
... not even a convulsion... :-)

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
P.S. Basically politics is the great American  sport. Not football, not 
baseball, etc.

Anyone can play even if that  playing is just commenting and/or bemoaning. We 
can get rather rabid about our  teams just like in any sport.

Great fun sometimes, other times a major  PITA.

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Re: Tamron lens

2008-02-06 Thread Carlos Royo
Adam Maas escribió:
 I've heard $699 as the likely price. There's also a Sigma 70-200 f2.8
 HSM that's likely to be the fastest focusing lens available for Pentax
 when it's released shortly (It gets a real ring-type USM motor, which
 are typically much faster than the micro-motor USM setup Pentax is
 using on the DA*'s to allow for dual-drive). The Sigma's going to be
 more expensive though.
 

It is not the first time I mention this in the list, but I had the Sigma 
70-200 2.8 HSM in Nikon AF mount until last week (sold it to a guy who 
uses a Nikon D300), and focusing isn't any faster than my FA* 80-200 2.8 
used on a MZ-S. It is almost completely silent, though, and it is the 
main (and possibly only) advantage of Sigma HSM lenses over the 
screwdriver AF ones.

Carlos

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/02/06 Wed AM 06:17:02 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: American Experience - PBS
 
 In a message dated 2/5/2008 8:47:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I mean this question in all seriousness, are you  guys ever ~not~ having some 
 sort of presidential election?
 
 William  Robb 
 
 
 Yes. And the years in between elections can drag  and drag when you dislike 
 the President.
 
 But, yeah, the election process  does run a bit long.
 
 I was just glad our CA primary ballot had so few propositions. But I am  sure 
 that will change on the general election ballot. It's like having  homework, 
 boring but hard-to-research homework.

The answer's on Wikipedia.  It always is.


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Re: Big Freakin Lens

2008-02-06 Thread David Savage
On Feb 6, 2008 3:39 AM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For those of you looking to justify a larger camera bag:

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030805sigma200500mm.asp

Meh!

You know what they say about men  sports cars?

The same rule applies with that thing.

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Re: A couple Hi-res samples (very nice IMO)

2008-02-06 Thread Derby Chang
Thibouille wrote:
 Still from that Dubai meeting ;)
 It is from early firmware but got the authorization to publish them
 according to LetsGoDigital.

 Each pics about 10Megs so modem users, get lost ! ;)

 http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/18238/pentax-k20d-sample-photos/

 IMO well... I will try to find reason not to upgrade ;) I don't need
 it but those pics got me on my bottom.

   
Holy Cow ^2.

That knitted camel shows hardly any purple fringing at all. And holy 
cow^3...she's got great eyelashes.

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 06/02/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

Nothing wrong with the  parliamentary system, but that's not the way this 
country was set-up.

H. I wonder why?

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Re: PESO: Waiting for the ball...

2008-02-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 And now for the picture, which has nothing to do with the story above... 
 except she was one of the participants of this short, but very funny show.
 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92595914
 
 .timber
 
 Ps.: This picture shows the true powers why I love the K10D. 1/5sec @ 
 105mm handheld with no flash and except the detail loss because the high 
 ISO (1600) there is no blur. So a big kudos to all the Pentax engineers! :D

After your showings this week, you are going to be on a number of official 
hate lists.

In other words, well done.


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Re: Waiting for the ball...

2008-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Feb 5, 2008 11:44 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Timber
 Subject: PESO: Waiting for the ball...


 
  Ps.: This picture shows the true powers why I love the K10D. 1/5sec @
  105mm handheld with no flash and except the detail loss because the high
  ISO (1600) there is no blur. So a big kudos to all the Pentax engineers!
  :D

 I know. I have a few friends in photo groups here who downgrade the shake
 reduction on the Pentax. Apparently, it doesn't work as well as the lens
 based image stabilization. It's usually about then that I put the A*85/1.4
 onto my K10 and ask them if their Canon comes with one of these?

 Pentax: it's not a camera, it's a religion.

You know the drillMARK

DAVE

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Re: Waiting for the ball...

2008-02-06 Thread David Savage
On Feb 6, 2008 1:44 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pentax: it's not a camera, it's a religion.

Given some of the behaviour on other forums, it's more like a
fundamentalist psycho-nut-job cult.

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2008 2:04:24 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 06/02/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED],  discombobulated, unleashed:

Nothing wrong with the   parliamentary system, but that's not the way this 
country was  set-up.

H. I wonder why?

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Pseduo IR plug in

2008-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
I'm trying to install this plug in on photoshop cs mac osx on the
ibook. It does not
want to work. Is this just for CS2 and above??

I expanded the file, put it in a folder and have linked to it in preferences.

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Reversing rings

2008-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
Arrived yesterday, from camerhunter. Took about 10 days or so, which
is not bad from the states to here.

Its snowing today, maybe i'll get a chance to try it out.

Now to finish off that coffee in the can

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PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg

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Re: PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
I like this one.
The line work of the rails draws me into the steps. I like the half
person at the top

Dave

On Feb 6, 2008 8:58 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg

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Re: PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread pnstenquist
Great composition. Excellent. Wow. Really.
Paul
 -- Original message --
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 http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/
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Re: PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg
 
 Comments always welcome.  Thanks.

Veeery nice.
Things are looking up...
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Re: Pseduo IR plug in

2008-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
Never mind.

Seems it put the plug in into the fotofusion folder. I was expecting a
seperate folder.

Silly rabbit, folders are for kids

Dave

On Feb 6, 2008 6:53 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to install this plug in on photoshop cs mac osx on the
 ibook. It does not
 want to work. Is this just for CS2 and above??

 I expanded the file, put it in a folder and have linked to it in preferences.

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Re: PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread mrkane
Nice job on that, I didn't even notice the half person at the top. My mind
was concentrating on being compressed horizontally . . .

 http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Adam Maas
On 2/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 2/5/2008 11:19:17 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Let's use the democrats as an  example, since I actually know a couple of
 their names.
 In the present  campaign then, the primaries would be determining if Obama or
 Clinton would  be the candidate in the real election, which isn't really an
 election since  some other electing body (the Electoral College?) actually
 elects the  president based on lord only knows what criteria?

 I think my eyes are  bleeding.

 Gads, I suppose I should just google this.

 William  Robb

 
 Technically. But I think only two times in history  (okay, maybe a few more
 but I'd have to look it up), has the popular vote and  the electoral vote
 differed. The thing that's throwing you is that one of those  times was the
 Gore/Bush election, but that was the first time since I don't know  when, 
 ages ago.
 Gore had more popular votes and Bush had more electoral votes.  (Someone 
 really
 wants to get precise about it, feel free to jump  in.)

 That part is a bit Byzantine, I agree. And periodically people get  steamed
 up about doing away with the electoral college. But to date, it hasn't
 happened.

 The historical roots for that are that originally only white  men could vote
 (not women, not blacks, etc.) and they didn't trust the unwashed  masses and
 wanted to limit the power of the popular vote. Of course, now it's  one 
 person,
 one vote, and I think we could well do away with the electoral  college.
 Smaller states with low population though like it because it gives them  more 
 say.

 Sure you could, re google, but heck we can give you the  Reader's Digest
 version. :-)

 The thing is what a big country we are, it  slows everything down. And it
 costs a lot these days to win an election, so it  all takes time. But I 
 wouldn't
 mind it being a tad quicker.

 The other  confusing thing is political pundits (and ordinary people) will
 discuss  someone's future election chances years before the primaries even 
 roll
 around.  It doesn't mean the election has started, it just means we are always
 talking  about future elections, four and eight years down the road too. They
 were  talking about Hillary's chances years and years ago. So all of that
 future  speculation also makes it look longer than it really is. It really 
 takes
 about a  year, but that included prep time, not the primaries. Primaries to
 general vote  take less than a year (and if someone wants to be specific about
 that, jump  right in.) Bit late here and my brain is a bit fogged.

 HTH, Marnie





Actually the historical roots of the Electoral College comes down to a
compromise between the small colonies and the large ones. They needed
to balance influence between the two groups to prevent the large
states from utterly dominating the presidential selection. The
ELectoral College long predates the popular vote, as at the time the
only voters were landowners small and large (even the rich didn't
qualify necessarily, only landowners. But outside of the large states
 the plantations most heads of family were landowners of some sort)

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Peso Valeyntine church Part II

2008-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
Did some new photos of the church a while back, with the zeniter 16mm.
I was going to use the 16-45, but i forgot it.:-(

Still trying to make the tree work as a frame. I don't think it will,
but comments are invited.

I know Bob S wanted to see the whole front of the church, so here it is.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6920989

K10D 16mm, PSCS with red filter

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Re: Tamron lens

2008-02-06 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
I had this Sigma with HSM in Nikon mount. It wasn't as fast as  
Dario's 70-200/2.8 in K mount screwdriven by *istD. If Dario reads it  
he may confirm this. AFAIR it was about as fast as DA* 50-135 despite  
ring USM motor, so nothing special. Contrary to this Canon L  
70-200/2.8 IS was much faster when I tried it.

Cheers,
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On 06.02.2008, at 00:58 , Adam Maas wrote:

 I've heard $699 as the likely price. There's also a Sigma 70-200 f2.8
 HSM that's likely to be the fastest focusing lens available for Pentax
 when it's released shortly (It gets a real ring-type USM motor, which
 are typically much faster than the micro-motor USM setup Pentax is
 using on the DA*'s to allow for dual-drive). The Sigma's going to be
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Re: Old (and funny) Pentax commercial

2008-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
Cool

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Old (and funny) Pentax commercial

2008-02-06 Thread Adam Maas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrjqiG-YNfc

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
FREE THE PHOTONS, STOP THE VIOLENCE.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 From: Bob W
 Subject: RE: American Experience - PBS



 
  It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and
  much faster.
 
  When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it
  became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#.
  Where will it all end?

 Back when we just took pictures, I wasn't worried, there were lots of
 pictures to be taken, and there was little chance of running out. You could
 even take the same picture over and over again, even different people could
 do that.

 When we took pictures, we let the light escape, sort of a catch and release
 philosophy.
 Now, we don't take pictures, we capture them. Eventually, if we aren't
 careful, they will become extinct, along with the light that we are no
 longer releasing.

 It will all end in a sad, pictureless darkness.

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Voting only makes the system work if you know what you are voting for. 
If you don't pay a attention you're not doing any good and may in fact 
be doing positive harm.


I think Half of the primary voters, (and some of the candidates), 
haven't a clue about what the process is about. I'd say about half the 
support for each comes from total irreverencies,

Obama gets support because he's acceptably black, Hillary because she's 
a woman, McKane because he's a war hero, Huckaby because he's an 
evangelical minister, Romney because he's movie star, (think Pat Boone), 
handsome.

Maybe a quarter of their support comes because they don't have somebody 
else's baggage,.

Hillery's a woman /and/ Bill's wife, Obama might be secretly a Moslem, 
oh yes and you might have noticed he’s black, (I wish that last weren’t 
true but you’d have to be a fool not to realize it). McKane is in favor 
of the War in Iraq, Huckaby is an evangelical minister, (hey for most of 
these people it works both ways), Romney's a, oh God no, a /Morman/.

Exit polls bear this out general cluelessness . Just for example I mean, 
really, in what universe could you vote for McKane or Hillery based on 
their economic acumen. They both have the same understanding of 
economics that my dog has of tensor calculus, (don’t think I’m picking 
on these two, most of the candidates have that level of expertise). 
McKane even admits it, and it’s so obvious in Hillary’s case that even 
the totally clueless should realize it. Yet exit polling has a number of 
people giving them both high marks on the economy.

Every single one of these candidates at one time or another, some more 
often others, have made promises that are not only, not functions of the 
office they are running for, but in fact are specially prohibited by the 
constitution. That alone should disqualify them from holding hight 
office. I find myself in total disgust most of the time. People should 
be voting for the good of the country, or failing that in their own and 
their children’s best interests. In most cases they are voting with out 
even considering the good of the country or knowing if a particular 
candidate is in those interests in mind, because they don’t actually pay 
attention until they get to the voting booth and then it’s too late.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 2/5/2008 10:41:06 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I think this is what has me  confused.
 When we elect what passes for a government, Parliament is  dissolved, the 
 campaigning runs for about a month, then we pick the least  offensive option.
 I don't understand what the primarys are supposed to  accomplish.

 William Robb

 ===
 Yes, you do. 

 We  don't have a parliamentary system. I think our system is unique. Though I 
 think  some may have copied it since. Three branches, Congress, Supreme 
 Court,  President. The first two can make laws, the last can't. But basically 
 the 
 idea  is Congress makes laws, the Supreme Court interprets them when there is 
 a 
  conflict, and the President is like the CEO, he runs the show, but doesn't  
 actually make laws. Checks and balances.

 Primaries are to determine the  nominee for each party, the Democratic and 
 Republican. Third parties have been a  small blib on the screen, never really 
 taken hold. And Independents, which have  grown in numbers.

 Me, I think a six or eight party system would be just  dandy, but it's never 
 really materialized.

 Nothing wrong with the  parliamentary system, but that's not the way this 
 country was set-up.

 We  are one big country with tons of people, so it takes awhile to get around 
 to all  the states and it takes a while to hear the candidates and it takes a 
 while for  them to line up votes. On the whole, it works. Sometimes it 
 doesn't work as well  as we would like.

 I've been watching the political scene for a long, long  time now, and even 
 when I despair, in the end, I usually feel it works to a  large degree. I 
 also 
 started voting as soon as I was old enough and have voted  in every election, 
 local and national, since. 

 It works best when people  vote. Apathy is when it works least.

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Re: PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread Mat Maessen
On 2/6/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe

Frank,

Do you have someone locally who can do BW digital prints for you? You
could very easily sell this one. And quite a few of the other shots
you've shared recently.

I'd buy an 8x10 of this one, frame it, and put it on my wall.

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
We were kind of pissed at parliament.

Cotty wrote:
 On 06/02/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 Nothing wrong with the  parliamentary system, but that's not the way this 
 country was set-up.
 

 H. I wonder why?

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Re: PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Not bad at all.  I would have like a more shapely body at the top, for 
that matter either a couple of steps down might be a little better.

frank theriault wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
At least two states were theocracies as well.  To vote in Connecticut 
and Massachusetts you had to be a land owner and a member of the 
Congregational Church. 

Adam Maas wrote:
 On 2/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 In a message dated 2/5/2008 11:19:17 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Let's use the democrats as an  example, since I actually know a couple of
 their names.
 In the present  campaign then, the primaries would be determining if Obama or
 Clinton would  be the candidate in the real election, which isn't really an
 election since  some other electing body (the Electoral College?) actually
 elects the  president based on lord only knows what criteria?

 I think my eyes are  bleeding.

 Gads, I suppose I should just google this.

 William  Robb

 
 Technically. But I think only two times in history  (okay, maybe a few more
 but I'd have to look it up), has the popular vote and  the electoral vote
 differed. The thing that's throwing you is that one of those  times was the
 Gore/Bush election, but that was the first time since I don't know  when, 
 ages ago.
 Gore had more popular votes and Bush had more electoral votes.  (Someone 
 really
 wants to get precise about it, feel free to jump  in.)

 That part is a bit Byzantine, I agree. And periodically people get  steamed
 up about doing away with the electoral college. But to date, it hasn't
 happened.

 The historical roots for that are that originally only white  men could vote
 (not women, not blacks, etc.) and they didn't trust the unwashed  masses and
 wanted to limit the power of the popular vote. Of course, now it's  one 
 person,
 one vote, and I think we could well do away with the electoral  college.
 Smaller states with low population though like it because it gives them  
 more say.

 Sure you could, re google, but heck we can give you the  Reader's Digest
 version. :-)

 The thing is what a big country we are, it  slows everything down. And it
 costs a lot these days to win an election, so it  all takes time. But I 
 wouldn't
 mind it being a tad quicker.

 The other  confusing thing is political pundits (and ordinary people) will
 discuss  someone's future election chances years before the primaries even 
 roll
 around.  It doesn't mean the election has started, it just means we are 
 always
 talking  about future elections, four and eight years down the road too. They
 were  talking about Hillary's chances years and years ago. So all of that
 future  speculation also makes it look longer than it really is. It really 
 takes
 about a  year, but that included prep time, not the primaries. Primaries to
 general vote  take less than a year (and if someone wants to be specific 
 about
 that, jump  right in.) Bit late here and my brain is a bit fogged.

 HTH, Marnie




 

 Actually the historical roots of the Electoral College comes down to a
 compromise between the small colonies and the large ones. They needed
 to balance influence between the two groups to prevent the large
 states from utterly dominating the presidential selection. The
 ELectoral College long predates the popular vote, as at the time the
 only voters were landowners small and large (even the rich didn't
 qualify necessarily, only landowners. But outside of the large states
  the plantations most heads of family were landowners of some sort)

   


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Re: Waiting for the ball...

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Kooks like a new t-shirt.

David J Brooks wrote:
 On Feb 5, 2008 11:44 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
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 From: Timber
 Subject: PESO: Waiting for the ball...


 
 Ps.: This picture shows the true powers why I love the K10D. 1/5sec @
 105mm handheld with no flash and except the detail loss because the high
 ISO (1600) there is no blur. So a big kudos to all the Pentax engineers!
 :D
   
 I know. I have a few friends in photo groups here who downgrade the shake
 reduction on the Pentax. Apparently, it doesn't work as well as the lens
 based image stabilization. It's usually about then that I put the A*85/1.4
 onto my K10 and ask them if their Canon comes with one of these?

 Pentax: it's not a camera, it's a religion.
 

 You know the drillMARK

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
It was the corrupt bargain of 1824 in which Henry Clay threw his 
support to John Quincy Addams, as opposed to Andrew Jackson.  A result 
that in retrospect probably made Jackson an even worse President after 
being elected in his own right in 1828.  I know I'm swimming up stream 
by considering him not one of the greats but so be it.  In that case no 
candidate received the requisite majority of electoral votes, there were 
four candidates and Jackson received a plurality of the popular votes.  
The election was settled in the house where Clay who was also a 
candidate supposedly was speaker.  After Adams won he made Clay Sec. of 
State.  An office much more coveted than VP in those days as a stepping 
stone to the Presidency.

The only other time anything like this happened was in 1876 where 
several states, (I forget how many), had contested vote counts.  Without 
them neither candidate would have an electoral majority.   This of 
course once again threw the election into the house.  A complex deal was 
worked out that put the Republican in the White House and ended 
reconstruction, and military occupation of the former Confederacy.  As 
usual it satisfied no one and we are dealing with the repercussions to 
this day.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 2/5/2008 11:19:17 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Let's use the democrats as an  example, since I actually know a couple of 
 their names.
 In the present  campaign then, the primaries would be determining if Obama or 
 Clinton would  be the candidate in the real election, which isn't really an 
 election since  some other electing body (the Electoral College?) actually 
 elects the  president based on lord only knows what criteria?

 I think my eyes are  bleeding.

 Gads, I suppose I should just google this.

 William  Robb

 
 Technically. But I think only two times in history  (okay, maybe a few more 
 but I'd have to look it up), has the popular vote and  the electoral vote 
 differed. The thing that's throwing you is that one of those  times was the 
 Gore/Bush election, but that was the first time since I don't know  when, 
 ages ago. 
 Gore had more popular votes and Bush had more electoral votes.  (Someone 
 really 
 wants to get precise about it, feel free to jump  in.)

 That part is a bit Byzantine, I agree. And periodically people get  steamed 
 up about doing away with the electoral college. But to date, it hasn't  
 happened.

 The historical roots for that are that originally only white  men could vote 
 (not women, not blacks, etc.) and they didn't trust the unwashed  masses and 
 wanted to limit the power of the popular vote. Of course, now it's  one 
 person, 
 one vote, and I think we could well do away with the electoral  college. 
 Smaller states with low population though like it because it gives them  more 
 say.

 Sure you could, re google, but heck we can give you the  Reader's Digest 
 version. :-)

 The thing is what a big country we are, it  slows everything down. And it 
 costs a lot these days to win an election, so it  all takes time. But I 
 wouldn't 
 mind it being a tad quicker.

 The other  confusing thing is political pundits (and ordinary people) will 
 discuss  someone's future election chances years before the primaries even 
 roll 
 around.  It doesn't mean the election has started, it just means we are 
 always 
 talking  about future elections, four and eight years down the road too. They 
 were  talking about Hillary's chances years and years ago. So all of that 
 future  speculation also makes it look longer than it really is. It really 
 takes 
 about a  year, but that included prep time, not the primaries. Primaries to 
 general vote  take less than a year (and if someone wants to be specific 
 about 
 that, jump  right in.) Bit late here and my brain is a bit fogged.

 HTH, Marnie  



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Re: Old (and funny) Pentax commercial

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
That's weird.  But many early advertisements were.  The fact that it's 
Japanese makes it seem even stranger.

Adam Maas wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrjqiG-YNfc

   


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Re: PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 06/02/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/
s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg

Comments always welcome.  Thanks.


Love it Frank.

I was going to say that it would be better with the head of the person
in shot, but that's too cliched. I like it better as it is.

Fabulous gritty quality, looks like film. Nice one.


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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Igor Roshchin

Wikipedia is a good starting point for many different areas of
information. However, it would be a big mistake to trust Wikipedia
universally: it can be, and it has been (and it is, and will be) wrong
in some questions/areas. 
So, always - often.

:-)

Igor

Wed Feb 6 04:49:46 EST 2008 
mike wilson wrote:

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
That shouldn't be Clay supposedly was speaker, he was speaker, he 
supposedly was bought off by being offered a higher office.


P. J. Alling wrote:
 It was the corrupt bargain of 1824 in which Henry Clay threw his 
 support to John Quincy Addams, as opposed to Andrew Jackson.  A result 
 that in retrospect probably made Jackson an even worse President after 
 being elected in his own right in 1828.  I know I'm swimming up stream 
 by considering him not one of the greats but so be it.  In that case no 
 candidate received the requisite majority of electoral votes, there were 
 four candidates and Jackson received a plurality of the popular votes.  
 The election was settled in the house where Clay who was also a 
 candidate supposedly was speaker.  After Adams won he made Clay Sec. of 
 State.  An office much more coveted than VP in those days as a stepping 
 stone to the Presidency.

 The only other time anything like this happened was in 1876 where 
 several states, (I forget how many), had contested vote counts.  Without 
 them neither candidate would have an electoral majority.   This of 
 course once again threw the election into the house.  A complex deal was 
 worked out that put the Republican in the White House and ended 
 reconstruction, and military occupation of the former Confederacy.  As 
 usual it satisfied no one and we are dealing with the repercussions to 
 this day.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 In a message dated 2/5/2008 11:19:17 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Let's use the democrats as an  example, since I actually know a couple of 
 their names.
 In the present  campaign then, the primaries would be determining if Obama 
 or 
 Clinton would  be the candidate in the real election, which isn't really an 
 election since  some other electing body (the Electoral College?) actually 
 elects the  president based on lord only knows what criteria?

 I think my eyes are  bleeding.

 Gads, I suppose I should just google this.

 William  Robb

 
 Technically. But I think only two times in history  (okay, maybe a few more 
 but I'd have to look it up), has the popular vote and  the electoral vote 
 differed. The thing that's throwing you is that one of those  times was the 
 Gore/Bush election, but that was the first time since I don't know  when, 
 ages ago. 
 Gore had more popular votes and Bush had more electoral votes.  (Someone 
 really 
 wants to get precise about it, feel free to jump  in.)

 That part is a bit Byzantine, I agree. And periodically people get  steamed 
 up about doing away with the electoral college. But to date, it hasn't  
 happened.

 The historical roots for that are that originally only white  men could vote 
 (not women, not blacks, etc.) and they didn't trust the unwashed  masses and 
 wanted to limit the power of the popular vote. Of course, now it's  one 
 person, 
 one vote, and I think we could well do away with the electoral  college. 
 Smaller states with low population though like it because it gives them  
 more say.

 Sure you could, re google, but heck we can give you the  Reader's Digest 
 version. :-)

 The thing is what a big country we are, it  slows everything down. And it 
 costs a lot these days to win an election, so it  all takes time. But I 
 wouldn't 
 mind it being a tad quicker.

 The other  confusing thing is political pundits (and ordinary people) will 
 discuss  someone's future election chances years before the primaries even 
 roll 
 around.  It doesn't mean the election has started, it just means we are 
 always 
 talking  about future elections, four and eight years down the road too. 
 They 
 were  talking about Hillary's chances years and years ago. So all of that 
 future  speculation also makes it look longer than it really is. It really 
 takes 
 about a  year, but that included prep time, not the primaries. Primaries to 
 general vote  take less than a year (and if someone wants to be specific 
 about 
 that, jump  right in.) Bit late here and my brain is a bit fogged.

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Re: Pseduo IR plug in

2008-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 06/02/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

I expanded the file, put it in a folder and have linked to it in preferences.

Photoshop plugins go in the folder marked 'Plugins', inside the Adobe
Photoshop folder in your Applications folder. If it sits inside its own
folder in there then it will still be seen in the Filters menu in the
Menubar at the top, but will appear as a submenu..I think!

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Igor Roshchin




Wed Feb 6 01:52:36 EST 2008 
Eactivist wrote:

 In a message dated 2/5/2008 10:41:06 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
 warobb at gmail.com writes:
 I think this is what has me  confused.
..
 
 William Robb


Bill,

If you are interested beyond the crash course already given by
PDMLers, a good starting point to learn primary elections is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primaries

 
 ===
 Yes, you do. 
 
 We  don't have a parliamentary system. I think our system is unique. Though I 
 think  some may have copied it since. Three branches, Congress, Supreme 
 Court,  President. The first two can make laws, the last can't. But basically 
 the 
 idea  is Congress makes laws, the Supreme Court interprets them when there is 
 a 
  conflict, and the President is like the CEO, he runs the show, but doesn't  
 actually make laws. Checks and balances.


Marnie, 
Sorry, but I would correct you, so that people don't get confused any
further. :-)
Only Congress (the legislative branch) can MAKE laws.
As you said, Supereme Court can only INTERPRET them.
Yes, they affect the way the laws work, but it is not equivivalent
to making them. The same way as the President, by nominating the supreme
judges can affect the way the law is interpreted, or by making
deals with the Congress or by vetoing the bill can affect which laws are 
accepted, but he still doesn't MAKE laws.



 Primaries are to determine the  nominee for each party, the Democratic and 
 Republican. Third parties have been a  small blib on the screen, never really 
 taken hold. And Independents, which have  grown in numbers.

This is one of the idiosyncrasies of the US electorial system:
In my opinion, the fact that primaries are limited to only two parties
prevent other parties coming to light, and hence prevent them from
gaining more public support. Primaries (which run for several months)
give a lot of exposure to the candidates from the Republican and
Democratic parties. Other parties' candidates do not get that exposure.
Taking into account that majority of the voters' response is based on
what they gets into their brain via regular bombardment of TV/Radio/media, 
this gives unfair advantage to the two oldest parties.

Igor


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Re: PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well this is the kind of shot that just reaches out and grabs you!
Very nicely done.

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Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 5:58:44 AM, you wrote:

ft http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe

ft 
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ft Comments always welcome.  Thanks.

ft cheers,
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Re: Waiting for the ball...

2008-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 06/02/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

Kooks like a new t-shirt.

Kooks like a lot of things.

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Re: Pseduo IR plug in

2008-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 06/02/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Seems it put the plug in into the fotofusion folder. I was expecting a
seperate folder.

You can move it and put it anywhere you like within that folder. Create
a new folder if you like and put it in there?

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Adam Maas
On 2/6/08, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 This is one of the idiosyncrasies of the US electorial system:
 In my opinion, the fact that primaries are limited to only two parties
 prevent other parties coming to light, and hence prevent them from
 gaining more public support. Primaries (which run for several months)
 give a lot of exposure to the candidates from the Republican and
 Democratic parties. Other parties' candidates do not get that exposure.
 Taking into account that majority of the voters' response is based on
 what they gets into their brain via regular bombardment of TV/Radio/media,
 this gives unfair advantage to the two oldest parties.

 Igor


The primaries are not limited to only two parties. In fact the Green
Party held 4 primaries on Super Tuesday as well. The Libertarian Party
doesn't use the primary system, preferring a brokered convention. All
the other parties are too small to really use the primary system,
which is only of value to large parties. However the two largest
parties do get most of the media coverage, with the Green party
getting the rest (Despite the Libertarian party actually being larger.
But then again, the Greens don't run outright nutjobs every 4 years
for the Presidential Ticket).

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Re: PESO: Waiting for the ball...

2008-02-06 Thread AlunFoto
Aaaww.
Play it again, Sam... :-)
Nice shot
Jostein

2008/2/6, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 First a little story :D

 There was an opera-ball last week for the rich people and at the other
 side of the street there was an anti-rich-people-street-party with rock
 music :D
 Many guests (incl. Andy Vajna, Richard Clayderman etc) arrived to the
 ball in fancy cars and even with Hummer Limuzine :D  Once, from nowhere
 a very old Wartburg (non EU ppl would raise eyebrow here... Wartburg is
 a very old eastern style car. I think along with Trabant it was the
 Communist Suzuki :D :D :D) arrived. It was really funny and the show
 just began. From the car a hippie-like guy and girl stepped out with the
 same 'style' as the other guests :D Meanwhile a guy dressed like Richard
 Clayderman, a guy in fancy-like clothes and the girl on the photo
 stepped out of crowd and they started arguing about who can go in the
 ball, since one arrived with car and the other has fancy clothes :D It
 was really funny, like an ironic mirror to those who entered the ball,
 but it seemed to me that they've lost their sense of humour.

 And now for the picture, which has nothing to do with the story above...
 except she was one of the participants of this short, but very funny show.
 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92595914

 .timber

 Ps.: This picture shows the true powers why I love the K10D. 1/5sec @
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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Adam Maas wrote:
 The primaries are not limited to only two parties. In fact the Green
 Party held 4 primaries on Super Tuesday as well. The Libertarian Party
 doesn't use the primary system, preferring a brokered convention. All
 the other parties are too small to really use the primary system,
 which is only of value to large parties. However the two largest
 parties do get most of the media coverage, with the Green party
 getting the rest (Despite the Libertarian party actually being larger.
 But then again, the Greens don't run outright nutjobs every 4 years
 for the Presidential Ticket).
 
To the contrary, Michael Badnarik was the only sane candidate last time 
around.

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Re: PESO: Waiting for the ball...

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 5, 2008 11:24 PM, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 First a little story :D

 There was an opera-ball last week for the rich people and at the other
 side of the street there was an anti-rich-people-street-party with rock
 music :D
 Many guests (incl. Andy Vajna, Richard Clayderman etc) arrived to the
 ball in fancy cars and even with Hummer Limuzine :D  Once, from nowhere
 a very old Wartburg (non EU ppl would raise eyebrow here... Wartburg is
 a very old eastern style car. I think along with Trabant it was the
 Communist Suzuki :D :D :D) arrived. It was really funny and the show
 just began. From the car a hippie-like guy and girl stepped out with the
 same 'style' as the other guests :D Meanwhile a guy dressed like Richard
 Clayderman, a guy in fancy-like clothes and the girl on the photo
 stepped out of crowd and they started arguing about who can go in the
 ball, since one arrived with car and the other has fancy clothes :D It
 was really funny, like an ironic mirror to those who entered the ball,
 but it seemed to me that they've lost their sense of humour.

 And now for the picture, which has nothing to do with the story above...
 except she was one of the participants of this short, but very funny show.
 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92595914


Beautiful photo of a beautiful woman.

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Re: PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread AlunFoto
A great shot, Frank.
Really grabbed me.

Jostein

2008/2/6, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg

 Comments always welcome.  Thanks.

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread AlunFoto
2008/2/5, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and
 much faster.

 When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it
 became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#.
 Where will it all end?

Who knows... C#ish?

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually if you listen closely the Greens do run outright nut jobs at 
least as often as the Libertarians, sadly many in the Democratic party 
are close enough them that their lunacy gets lost in the general noise.

Adam Maas wrote:
 On 2/6/08, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 This is one of the idiosyncrasies of the US electorial system:
 In my opinion, the fact that primaries are limited to only two parties
 prevent other parties coming to light, and hence prevent them from
 gaining more public support. Primaries (which run for several months)
 give a lot of exposure to the candidates from the Republican and
 Democratic parties. Other parties' candidates do not get that exposure.
 Taking into account that majority of the voters' response is based on
 what they gets into their brain via regular bombardment of TV/Radio/media,
 this gives unfair advantage to the two oldest parties.

 Igor

 

 The primaries are not limited to only two parties. In fact the Green
 Party held 4 primaries on Super Tuesday as well. The Libertarian Party
 doesn't use the primary system, preferring a brokered convention. All
 the other parties are too small to really use the primary system,
 which is only of value to large parties. However the two largest
 parties do get most of the media coverage, with the Green party
 getting the rest (Despite the Libertarian party actually being larger.
 But then again, the Greens don't run outright nutjobs every 4 years
 for the Presidential Ticket).

   


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Re: PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 6, 2008 2:21 PM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A great shot, Frank.
 Really grabbed me.

Well, thanks, Jostein.  And thanks to everyone else who commented.

I have to say I'm rather overwhelmed with the response to this one.  I
hesitated posting it, because I thought it was so technically
deficient - the left of the frame is so blown out I thought it not
worthy of posting.

I decided to post it, only because I thought the overall composition
was strong enough to, if not overcome, at least compensate for the
aforementioned deficit.  I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned
it.

A few have commented about the figure's head being cut off.  That
doesn't bother me so much - in fact, I think it makes for stronger
geometries and helps the overall composition.

Anyway, again, thanks to everyone who has commented.  This was almost
a throw-away.  I'm glad I kept and showed it...

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
AlunFoto wrote:
 2008/2/5, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and
 much faster.

 When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it
 became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#.
 Where will it all end?
 

 Who knows... C#ish?

 Jostein

   
You're missing the obvious Super C...

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2008 8:11:40 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
writes:
Actually the historical roots of the  Electoral College comes down to a
compromise between the small colonies and  the large ones. They needed
to balance influence between the two groups to  prevent the large
states from utterly dominating the presidential selection.  The
ELectoral College long predates the popular vote, as at the time  the
only voters were landowners small and large (even the rich  didn't
qualify necessarily, only landowners. But outside of the large  states
 the plantations most heads of family were landowners of some  sort)

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2008 9:31:00 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It was the corrupt bargain  of 1824 in which Henry Clay threw his 
support to John Quincy Addams, as  opposed to Andrew Jackson.  A result 
that in retrospect probably made  Jackson an even worse President after 
being elected in his own right in  1828.  I know I'm swimming up stream 
by considering him not one of the  greats but so be it.  In that case no 
candidate received the requisite  majority of electoral votes, there were 
four candidates and Jackson received  a plurality of the popular votes.  
The election was settled in the  house where Clay who was also a 
candidate supposedly was speaker.   After Adams won he made Clay Sec. of 
State.  An office much more  coveted than VP in those days as a stepping 
stone to the  Presidency.

The only other time anything like this happened was in 1876  where 
several states, (I forget how many), had contested vote counts.   Without 
them neither candidate would have an electoral majority.This of 
course once again threw the election into the house.  A complex  deal was 
worked out that put the Republican in the White House and ended  
reconstruction, and military occupation of the former Confederacy.  As  
usual it satisfied no one and we are dealing with the repercussions to  
this day.

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know, Peter. :-)

I thought it was that  far back, but was not up to googling to find out.

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread AlunFoto
Isn't that usually one step up beyond the #ish? :-)

Jostein

2008/2/6, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 AlunFoto wrote:
  2008/2/5, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and
  much faster.
 
  When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it
  became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#.
  Where will it all end?
 
 
  Who knows... C#ish?
 
  Jostein
 
 
 You're missing the obvious Super C...

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread AlunFoto
What strikes me as most odd about the American system is the extreme
focus on the single persons running for office. Not really the media
pressure itself, but I get the feeling that the candidates have to
play up to people's expectations in that respect.

I accept that being non-american is probably the reason why I find
this a bit alienating... :-)

Jostein

2008/2/6, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 P.S. Basically politics is the great American  sport. Not football, not
 baseball, etc.

 Anyone can play even if that  playing is just commenting and/or bemoaning. We
 can get rather rabid about our  teams just like in any sport.

 Great fun sometimes, other times a major  PITA.

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Re: PESO Incredible Chicago Fog Today

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 4, 2008 8:41 PM, Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 Chicago is having an incredible fog right now, so incredible that ALL
 flights in  out of Midway Airport have been cancelled.  The fog is expected
 to sit in the city until 1 am.

 Also, this is my first time ever shooting fog.  I've never done fog shots.
 These were taken on the way home from work.  This is the school grounds of
 an area Chicago high school.   This sure was exciting for me, since I've
 never had the opportunity to photograph dramatic fog before.

 Slide Show--just 6 shots
 http://photo.net/photodb/slideshow?folder_id=806363

 Stills Folder--same 6 shots
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=806363

All are wonderful - #4 is my favourite.  So mysterious looking!
Nicely composed (as they all are).

I've gotta say, though that's not so foggy.  I used to spend summers
with my grandparents in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada.  Now those guys
have thick fog!

;-)

Seriously, wonderful photos!

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Re: PESO: Waiting for the ball...

2008-02-06 Thread Cotty
Missed this one the first time around.

 And now for the picture, which has nothing to do with the story above...
 except she was one of the participants of this short, but very funny show.
 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92595914

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OT - Any Folkies?

2008-02-06 Thread Cotty
Shameless plug for Fairport Convention here. If you're a folky and like
Fairport, order the 'Fairport at Forty' DVD from the web site:

http://www.fairportconvention.com/

Direct link:

http://www.fairportconvention.com/catalogue.php?
cmsCategoryID=9cmsProductID=199DisplayType=DisplayProdDetails

http://tinyurl.com/yro3kx

USA shipping starts 7th Feb.



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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2008 11:50:43 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What strikes me as most odd  about the American system is the extreme
focus on the single persons running  for office. Not really the media
pressure itself, but I get the feeling that  the candidates have to
play up to people's expectations in that  respect.

I accept that being non-american is probably the reason why I  find
this a bit alienating... :-)

Jostein

=
Nyah.  Lots of Americans do too. It's often over the top. TV, Internet. It 
only got as  bad as it is now because of all the media hype. In other words, 
that has always  been present to a some degree, but the media flash and hype 
has 
just gotten  worse and worse over the years. 

Well, back to photography.

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Re: PESO - Tower and Crane.

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 3, 2008 1:43 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Night shot in downtown Toronto

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/2237971823/

 Larger/direct link:

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/2237971823_646395de42_b.jpg

 K10D, Sigma 17-70.


For some reason, it just doesn't quite all come together for me.  It's
an almost, but not quite thing.  The wall and the cars in the
foreground distract too much from the real subjects, the crane and
the CN Tower.

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Re: PESO - Escalating

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2008 5:59:13 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-
h/feb_04_08+001.jpg

Comments  always welcome.   Thanks.

cheers,
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Huh. Very interesting  shot, frank. Mixed reactions, I like it and I wish 
there was more of the man. Or  that the sides were darker. If it was mine I 
might 
go in and dodge the triangles  on the sides, beyond the escalator, just a 
tad. But interesting  shot.

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Re: PESO -- Ft Griswold; Parade Ground and Obelisk

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 5, 2008 9:53 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I decided to post one more from Ft. Griswold.  Showing the parade
 grounds and the Obelisk, (battlefield memorial built in the 1920's, the
 US went kind of Obelisk crazy after the completion of the Washington
 Monument).

Oblisks.  Probably telluric valves.

Cool photo of an interesting area.  I like the bleak, dismal skies - I
think they're necessary for this shot.

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I suppose...

AlunFoto wrote:
 Isn't that usually one step up beyond the #ish? :-)

 Jostein

 2008/2/6, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 AlunFoto wrote:
 
 2008/2/5, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   
 It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and
 much faster.

 When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it
 became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#.
 Where will it all end?

 
 Who knows... C#ish?

 Jostein


   
 You're missing the obvious Super C...

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Re: PESO: Waiting for the ball...

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/5/2008 8:29:27 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
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And now for the picture, which has  nothing to do with the story above... 
except she was one of the participants  of this short, but very funny  show.
http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92595914

.timber

Ps.:  This picture shows the true powers why I love the K10D. 1/5sec @ 
105mm  handheld with no flash and except the detail loss because the high 
ISO  (1600) there is no blur. So a big kudos to all the Pentax engineers!  :D

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Re: PESO - Tower and Crane.

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2008 12:07:51 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
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On Feb 3, 2008 1:43  PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Night shot in downtown  Toronto

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/2237971823/

 Larger/direct  link:

  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/2237971823_646395de42_b.jpg

  K10D, Sigma 17-70.


For some reason, it just doesn't quite all  come together for me.  It's
an almost, but not quite thing.  The  wall and the cars in the
foreground distract too much from the real  subjects, the crane and
the CN  Tower.

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Re: Big Freakin Lens

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
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uh-oh.  I see lens envy  coming.

 Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/5/2008 3:23  PM  

That's the knife?.. (From Crocodile Dundee  movie)

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp 
256  kg (564 lb) - that is the real lens!!!



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Re: Old (and funny) Pentax commercial

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2008 8:21:03 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, [EMAIL 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrjqiG-YNfc

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Re: A couple Hi-res samples (very nice IMO)

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2008 12:23:52 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
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Still from that Dubai  meeting ;)
It is from early firmware but got the authorization to publish  them
according to LetsGoDigital.

Each pics about 10Megs so modem  users, get lost !  ;)

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/18238/pentax-k20d-sample-photos/

IMO  well... I will try to find reason not to upgrade ;) I don't need
it but those  pics got me on my bottom.

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Re: Old (and funny) Pentax commercial

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 6, 2008 11:17 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrjqiG-YNfc

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I'm quite sure that's Mark...

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Re: Big Freakin Lens

2008-02-06 Thread Steve Desjardins
And your point is?  

Psychoses are the variety of life.

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uh-oh.  I see lens envy  coming.

 Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/5/2008 3:23  PM  

That's the knife?.. (From Crocodile Dundee  movie)

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp 
256  kg (564 lb) - that is the real lens!!!



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RE: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Bob W
 
 I was just glad our CA primary ballot had so few 
 propositions. But I am  sure 
 that will change on the general election ballot. It's like 
 having  homework, 
 boring but hard-to-research homework.
  
 Marnie 
 

Just do what I used to do at school, copy from the person next to you.

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PESO: Missed the Train

2008-02-06 Thread ntax
http://www.neovenator.com/2008/02/train.html

Details:
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Really hot girl with an ugly bag
Creepy guy with camera

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
I practice a shoot and release program.

Dave

On Feb 6, 2008 11:43 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 FREE THE PHOTONS, STOP THE VIOLENCE.
 Regards,  Bob S.


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  From: Bob W
  Subject: RE: American Experience - PBS
 
 
 
  
   It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and
   much faster.
  
   When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it
   became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#.
   Where will it all end?
 
  Back when we just took pictures, I wasn't worried, there were lots of
  pictures to be taken, and there was little chance of running out. You could
  even take the same picture over and over again, even different people could
  do that.
 
  When we took pictures, we let the light escape, sort of a catch and release
  philosophy.
  Now, we don't take pictures, we capture them. Eventually, if we aren't
  careful, they will become extinct, along with the light that we are no
  longer releasing.
 
  It will all end in a sad, pictureless darkness.
 
  William Robb
 
 
 
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Re: PESO - for John Bailey :-)

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 5, 2008 12:29 AM, Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yikes, so am I not supposed to comment on personalized PESOs?  I didn't
 realize this.  Sorry, Bong.  Sorry, John Bailey.  I sincerely didn't know
 this.  Didn't mean to commit a faux paw.
 Christine

AFAIK, these personalized PESOs are somewhat tongue in cheek.  At
least mine to Cotty was.  I think I did another one (can't really
remember that far back - hell, I have trouble remembering what I ate
for dinner last night) too.

In any event, my thinking is that these things are personalized
insofar as the poster would like the PESO to be seen by the person
referred to.  That in no way prevents anyone else who chooses to view
it in commenting.  In fact, my preference as a poster is that everyone
comment, despite the personalization.

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Re: Waiting for the ball...

2008-02-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
So you got a problem with that?Regards,  Bob S.

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 On Feb 6, 2008 1:44 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Pentax: it's not a camera, it's a religion.

 Given some of the behaviour on other forums, it's more like a
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Re: PESO - for John Bailey :-)

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 4, 2008 4:05 AM, Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Personalized PESOs? Me too :-D

 Did some TFCD shots and I used a combination of a Canon AE-1 Program
 and John's ex-SMC Takumar 135/2.5...

 http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-07b.htm

 That's not exactly the best photo, but its one of the better ones
 using the Canon/Takumar combo.  I loaded it up because a friend in
 another forum wants to see shots from a Tak 135/2.5.  The thumbnail
 leads to what I think is the best shot (this one uses the DS and the
 lowly SMCP A 50/2).

I like the one with the butterflies on the wall.  The other one is too
bright, IMHO.

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Re: PESO - for John Bailey :-)

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 5, 2008 12:33 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christine, this is a public forum, if it's posted here you can comment.
 I doubt that anyone actually expects any kind of privacy and they
 certainly won't receive any. These directed PESOs are a very new
 thing.  Though I may have contributed to them some time ago by posting a
 picture titled One for Frank  more in jest than anything else.

I would assume that anything intended for me ~would~ be in jest.
Especially if it comes from the likes of you!

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tamron 28-70 at f2.8

2008-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/tamron.jpg

You can see were i have shown the focus line, and whats in focus. To
me, at under F4, it looks like the lens is covered by a thing cloth or
light smear of vasoline.

I have talked with the salesman, and it is returnable. I'll see whe
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Re: PESO: Missed the Train

2008-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
Great shot

Dave

On Feb 6, 2008 3:59 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.neovenator.com/2008/02/train.html

 Details:
 K10D with DA21
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 f4.5
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 Embarcadero BART station in San Francisco
 Really hot girl with an ugly bag
 Creepy guy with camera

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Re: PESO - Redwood Fern

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 4, 2008 3:58 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Archives keep yielding up a few more. But good  weather today, so maybe I can
 shoot this week. (Though forecasts say rain  starting tomorrow through the
 rest of the week. Sigh, sigh.)

 A lot of the  Redwood forests (patches of forest) the further you go up along
 the California  coast, have ferns. Lots of ferns at the base of the Redwoods.
 Taken in 2006, on  my Redwood trip.

 Not quite what I wanted (I really should employ a  tripod more), but close
 and I think it doesn't look  bad.

 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/fern.htm


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Re: PESO: Missed the Train

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 6, 2008 3:59 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.neovenator.com/2008/02/train.html

 Details:
 K10D with DA21
 1/25th
 f4.5
 ISO 1600
 Embarcadero BART station in San Francisco
 Really hot girl with an ugly bag
 Creepy guy with camera

Cool shot.  Like the tilt!

;-)

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Re: PESO - Redwood Fern

2008-02-06 Thread Eactivist
 A lot of the  Redwood forests (patches  of forest) the further you go up 
along
 the California  coast, have  ferns. Lots of ferns at the base of the 
Redwoods.
 Taken in 2006,  on  my Redwood trip.

 Not quite what I wanted (I really  should employ a  tripod more), but close
 and I think it doesn't  look  bad.

  http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/fern.htm


Love the  light!

cheers,
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Re: tamron 28-70 at f2.8

2008-02-06 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 6, 2008 4:17 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/tamron.jpg

 You can see were i have shown the focus line, and whats in focus. To
 me, at under F4, it looks like the lens is covered by a thing cloth or
 light smear of vasoline.

 I have talked with the salesman, and it is returnable. I'll see whe
 else the have.


I think they mistakenly gave you the Limited Edition Frank Theriault Model...

;-)

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Q. regarding the 70mm Limited on FF/film

2008-02-06 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
Hello,
I'd like to know if the 70mm Limited will cover (with good results)
the 35mm frame, and for that I need your help.
I've saw some time ago a test but I can't find it again :( I remember
the 70mm was OK re. vignetting, however I don't know if the corners
are sharp (from what I've saw the DA 40mm is very bad in the corners
on FF). I'll try to get/borrow a 70mm and take few test shots, but if
someone on this list already did that I'd appreciate any info.
I know, the 77mm would be safer - but I haven't shoot film for some
time anyway... besides, I like the QSF on the DA Limited.
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Re: PESO - for John Bailey :-)

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Well surely...

frank theriault wrote:
 On Feb 5, 2008 12:33 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Christine, this is a public forum, if it's posted here you can comment.
 I doubt that anyone actually expects any kind of privacy and they
 certainly won't receive any. These directed PESOs are a very new
 thing.  Though I may have contributed to them some time ago by posting a
 picture titled One for Frank  more in jest than anything else.
 

 I would assume that anything intended for me ~would~ be in jest.
 Especially if it comes from the likes of you!

 ;-)

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Re: Q. regarding the 70mm Limited on FF/film

2008-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Short answer, No.

Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote:
 Hello,
 I'd like to know if the 70mm Limited will cover (with good results)
 the 35mm frame, and for that I need your help.
 I've saw some time ago a test but I can't find it again :( I remember
 the 70mm was OK re. vignetting, however I don't know if the corners
 are sharp (from what I've saw the DA 40mm is very bad in the corners
 on FF). I'll try to get/borrow a 70mm and take few test shots, but if
 someone on this list already did that I'd appreciate any info.
 I know, the 77mm would be safer - but I haven't shoot film for some
 time anyway... besides, I like the QSF on the DA Limited.
 Thanks!

   


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Pentax Bellows

2008-02-06 Thread Walter Hamler
I just bought a Pentax Bellows from an internet telescope source. The
pic tells that it is a screw mount version. Are there special adapters
available to convert these to K-mount, or do I just get the M-42 - K
adapter ring for both ends?

Walt

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Wow, this is really beginning to get interesting ...  ]'-)

Godfrey

On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:51 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 I practice a shoot and release program.


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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I just caught the broadcast of Grand Central and the prior episode  
on building the subways of New York.

Very well done, both of them, although neither quite at the same  
level as the awesome 8 part series on the history of New York City  
done in the late 1990s by PBS. If you have not seen that, it is well  
worth renting ...

The photographs of Grand Central Terminal are delightful. That's one  
of my favorite places to visit and shoot, has been since 1968. It's  
great to know more about the history of GCT as well.

Godfrey

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Re: Pentax Bellows

2008-02-06 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:41:09PM -0500, Walter Hamler wrote:
 I just bought a Pentax Bellows from an internet telescope source. The
 pic tells that it is a screw mount version. Are there special adapters
 available to convert these to K-mount, or do I just get the M-42 - K
 adapter ring for both ends?
 
 Walt

You might be out of luck - I don't know of an adapter to fit a K-mount
lens onto a screw-mount body (or bellows).  The M-42 - K adapter ring
will let you mount a screw-mount lens (or bellows) on a K-mount body,
but the only lenses you will be able to use are screw-mount lenses.


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Re: Pentax Bellows

2008-02-06 Thread Mat Maessen
On 2/6/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just bought a Pentax Bellows from an internet telescope source. The
 pic tells that it is a screw mount version. Are there special adapters
 available to convert these to K-mount, or do I just get the M-42 - K
 adapter ring for both ends?

You'll need a screw-mount lens for the far end of the bellows. I'm
sure someone on the list has one they'd be happy to sell you. There
was a 50mm Bellows Takumar that was designed specifically for use with
the bellows, but any screw-mount lens will fit.

For the camera end, you'll need an M42-K mount adapter, plus you might
need an extension tube if you're shooting with one of the DSLRs that
has a prism/flash base that overhangs the lens mount.

-Mat

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PESO: Street instruments :D

2008-02-06 Thread Timber
http://www.pbase.com/image/92621610

Sorry if I send too many pictures these days :D but I have time and I 
spend it on pentaxing around the town :P

.timber

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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Igor Roshchin
Subject: Re: American Experience - PBS




 If you are interested beyond the crash course already given by
 PDMLers, a good starting point to learn primary elections is here:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primaries

Thanks Igor. The crash course has taught me to be happy with what I have 
though.
bill 


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Re: Pentax Bellows

2008-02-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: John Francis
Subject: Re: Pentax Bellows


 On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:41:09PM -0500, Walter Hamler wrote:
 I just bought a Pentax Bellows from an internet telescope source. The
 pic tells that it is a screw mount version. Are there special adapters
 available to convert these to K-mount, or do I just get the M-42 - K
 adapter ring for both ends?

 Walt

 You might be out of luck - I don't know of an adapter to fit a K-mount
 lens onto a screw-mount body (or bellows).  The M-42 - K adapter ring
 will let you mount a screw-mount lens (or bellows) on a K-mount body,
 but the only lenses you will be able to use are screw-mount lenses.

Somewhere around here, I have a K to M42 adaptor. It is a short extension 
tube with a screw mount at the back end, and a K-mount at the front. It's 
probably a Spiratone part. Porter's might have something similar. If nothing 
else, the Takumar 100mm bellows lens is very nice indeed.

William Robb 


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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: AlunFoto
Subject: Re: American Experience - PBS


 What strikes me as most odd about the American system is the extreme
 focus on the single persons running for office. Not really the media
 pressure itself, but I get the feeling that the candidates have to
 play up to people's expectations in that respect.

 I accept that being non-american is probably the reason why I find
 this a bit alienating... :-)

The Canadian system shares this similarity. While we vote for a local 
representative, the reality is that we are voting for a particular party, 
it's leader, and all the baggage they can carry.
At the moment, we are governed by Adolf Harper. I am certain that he will be 
setting up work camps any day now.
I used to think I hated them all equally, but now I am finding that some of 
them are more equal than others in this department.

William Robb 


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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 I just caught the broadcast of Grand Central and the prior episode  
 on building the subways of New York.
 
 Very well done, both of them, although neither quite at the same  
 level as the awesome 8 part series on the history of New York City  
 done in the late 1990s by PBS. If you have not seen that, it is well  
 worth renting ...
 
 The photographs of Grand Central Terminal are delightful. That's one  
 of my favorite places to visit and shoot, has been since 1968. It's  
 great to know more about the history of GCT as well.

I first saw Grand Central Station when I was 6 years old on my first day 
in the United States! We arrived by ship(!) and took the train from NYC 
to Detroit. Pretty intimidating place for a little kid.

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Re: Pentax Bellows

2008-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Walter Hamler wrote:
 I just bought a Pentax Bellows from an internet telescope source. The
 pic tells that it is a screw mount version. Are there special adapters
 available to convert these to K-mount, or do I just get the M-42 - K
 adapter ring for both ends?

Get a standard M42-K adapter to mount the bellows on the camera.
Then get an M42 *reversing ring* to mount lenses on the bellows :)

I did this recently with a cheap third-party M42 bellows. Works great:
http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=16


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Re: American Experience - PBS

2008-02-06 Thread David Savage
At 09:19 AM 7/02/2008, Mark Roberts wrote:
I first saw Grand Central Station when I was 6 years old on my first day
in the United States! We arrived by ship(!)


Did it have oars or sails?

Cheers,

Dave


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Re: PESO - Tower and Crane.

2008-02-06 Thread Adam Maas
On 2/6/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Feb 3, 2008 1:43 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Night shot in downtown Toronto
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/2237971823/
 
  Larger/direct link:
 
  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/2237971823_646395de42_b.jpg
 
  K10D, Sigma 17-70.
 

 For some reason, it just doesn't quite all come together for me.  It's
 an almost, but not quite thing.  The wall and the cars in the
 foreground distract too much from the real subjects, the crane and
 the CN Tower.

 cheers,
 frank


Interesting take on it. The 'Real Subject' in this case was actually
the sky. Sky textures, particularly around dusk, fascinate me.

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