Re: Tamron lens
And those Sigma HSM are incompatible with pre-K100DSuper/K10D AF-wise. Oh, also to note that since a couple of those Sigma are 35mm lenses, they will cover 'FF' format but... will not be able to AF with ANY camera but K100Ds/K10D/K20D/K200D anfd later. You probably know this but I wanna be sure everyone knows. I still use a couple film cameras although lightly. I know I would bitch not being able to AF with a 70-210/2.8 on my Z1 or an MZ-S. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A couple Hi-res samples (very nice IMO)
Still from that Dubai meeting ;) It is from early firmware but got the authorization to publish them according to LetsGoDigital. Each pics about 10Megs so modem users, get lost ! ;) http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/18238/pentax-k20d-sample-photos/ IMO well... I will try to find reason not to upgrade ;) I don't need it but those pics got me on my bottom. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Big Freakin Lens
Tue Feb 5 21:44:13 EST 2008 Timber wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: That's the knife?.. (From Crocodile Dundee movie) http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp 256 kg (564 lb) - that is the real lens!!! So expensive lens and no image stabilization? Everyone knows that teles need IS for handheld photography! :P Under 256 kg your hands won't be even shaking... ... not even a convulsion... :-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
P.S. Basically politics is the great American sport. Not football, not baseball, etc. Anyone can play even if that playing is just commenting and/or bemoaning. We can get rather rabid about our teams just like in any sport. Great fun sometimes, other times a major PITA. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron lens
Adam Maas escribió: I've heard $699 as the likely price. There's also a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 HSM that's likely to be the fastest focusing lens available for Pentax when it's released shortly (It gets a real ring-type USM motor, which are typically much faster than the micro-motor USM setup Pentax is using on the DA*'s to allow for dual-drive). The Sigma's going to be more expensive though. It is not the first time I mention this in the list, but I had the Sigma 70-200 2.8 HSM in Nikon AF mount until last week (sold it to a guy who uses a Nikon D300), and focusing isn't any faster than my FA* 80-200 2.8 used on a MZ-S. It is almost completely silent, though, and it is the main (and possibly only) advantage of Sigma HSM lenses over the screwdriver AF ones. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/02/06 Wed AM 06:17:02 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: American Experience - PBS In a message dated 2/5/2008 8:47:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I mean this question in all seriousness, are you guys ever ~not~ having some sort of presidential election? William Robb Yes. And the years in between elections can drag and drag when you dislike the President. But, yeah, the election process does run a bit long. I was just glad our CA primary ballot had so few propositions. But I am sure that will change on the general election ballot. It's like having homework, boring but hard-to-research homework. The answer's on Wikipedia. It always is. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Big Freakin Lens
On Feb 6, 2008 3:39 AM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you looking to justify a larger camera bag: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030805sigma200500mm.asp Meh! You know what they say about men sports cars? The same rule applies with that thing. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A couple Hi-res samples (very nice IMO)
Thibouille wrote: Still from that Dubai meeting ;) It is from early firmware but got the authorization to publish them according to LetsGoDigital. Each pics about 10Megs so modem users, get lost ! ;) http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/18238/pentax-k20d-sample-photos/ IMO well... I will try to find reason not to upgrade ;) I don't need it but those pics got me on my bottom. Holy Cow ^2. That knitted camel shows hardly any purple fringing at all. And holy cow^3...she's got great eyelashes. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
On 06/02/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Nothing wrong with the parliamentary system, but that's not the way this country was set-up. H. I wonder why? - ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Waiting for the ball...
From: Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] And now for the picture, which has nothing to do with the story above... except she was one of the participants of this short, but very funny show. http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92595914 .timber Ps.: This picture shows the true powers why I love the K10D. 1/5sec @ 105mm handheld with no flash and except the detail loss because the high ISO (1600) there is no blur. So a big kudos to all the Pentax engineers! :D After your showings this week, you are going to be on a number of official hate lists. In other words, well done. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waiting for the ball...
On Feb 5, 2008 11:44 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Timber Subject: PESO: Waiting for the ball... Ps.: This picture shows the true powers why I love the K10D. 1/5sec @ 105mm handheld with no flash and except the detail loss because the high ISO (1600) there is no blur. So a big kudos to all the Pentax engineers! :D I know. I have a few friends in photo groups here who downgrade the shake reduction on the Pentax. Apparently, it doesn't work as well as the lens based image stabilization. It's usually about then that I put the A*85/1.4 onto my K10 and ask them if their Canon comes with one of these? Pentax: it's not a camera, it's a religion. You know the drillMARK DAVE William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waiting for the ball...
On Feb 6, 2008 1:44 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax: it's not a camera, it's a religion. Given some of the behaviour on other forums, it's more like a fundamentalist psycho-nut-job cult. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
In a message dated 2/6/2008 2:04:24 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 06/02/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Nothing wrong with the parliamentary system, but that's not the way this country was set-up. H. I wonder why? - ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty = Yeah, we know why. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pseduo IR plug in
I'm trying to install this plug in on photoshop cs mac osx on the ibook. It does not want to work. Is this just for CS2 and above?? I expanded the file, put it in a folder and have linked to it in preferences. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Reversing rings
Arrived yesterday, from camerhunter. Took about 10 days or so, which is not bad from the states to here. Its snowing today, maybe i'll get a chance to try it out. Now to finish off that coffee in the can Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Escalating
http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Escalating
I like this one. The line work of the rails draws me into the steps. I like the half person at the top Dave On Feb 6, 2008 8:58 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Escalating
Great composition. Excellent. Wow. Really. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/ feb_04_08+001.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Escalating
frank theriault wrote: http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks. Veeery nice. Things are looking up... :-P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pseduo IR plug in
Never mind. Seems it put the plug in into the fotofusion folder. I was expecting a seperate folder. Silly rabbit, folders are for kids Dave On Feb 6, 2008 6:53 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to install this plug in on photoshop cs mac osx on the ibook. It does not want to work. Is this just for CS2 and above?? I expanded the file, put it in a folder and have linked to it in preferences. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Escalating
Nice job on that, I didn't even notice the half person at the top. My mind was concentrating on being compressed horizontally . . . http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
On 2/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/5/2008 11:19:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's use the democrats as an example, since I actually know a couple of their names. In the present campaign then, the primaries would be determining if Obama or Clinton would be the candidate in the real election, which isn't really an election since some other electing body (the Electoral College?) actually elects the president based on lord only knows what criteria? I think my eyes are bleeding. Gads, I suppose I should just google this. William Robb Technically. But I think only two times in history (okay, maybe a few more but I'd have to look it up), has the popular vote and the electoral vote differed. The thing that's throwing you is that one of those times was the Gore/Bush election, but that was the first time since I don't know when, ages ago. Gore had more popular votes and Bush had more electoral votes. (Someone really wants to get precise about it, feel free to jump in.) That part is a bit Byzantine, I agree. And periodically people get steamed up about doing away with the electoral college. But to date, it hasn't happened. The historical roots for that are that originally only white men could vote (not women, not blacks, etc.) and they didn't trust the unwashed masses and wanted to limit the power of the popular vote. Of course, now it's one person, one vote, and I think we could well do away with the electoral college. Smaller states with low population though like it because it gives them more say. Sure you could, re google, but heck we can give you the Reader's Digest version. :-) The thing is what a big country we are, it slows everything down. And it costs a lot these days to win an election, so it all takes time. But I wouldn't mind it being a tad quicker. The other confusing thing is political pundits (and ordinary people) will discuss someone's future election chances years before the primaries even roll around. It doesn't mean the election has started, it just means we are always talking about future elections, four and eight years down the road too. They were talking about Hillary's chances years and years ago. So all of that future speculation also makes it look longer than it really is. It really takes about a year, but that included prep time, not the primaries. Primaries to general vote take less than a year (and if someone wants to be specific about that, jump right in.) Bit late here and my brain is a bit fogged. HTH, Marnie Actually the historical roots of the Electoral College comes down to a compromise between the small colonies and the large ones. They needed to balance influence between the two groups to prevent the large states from utterly dominating the presidential selection. The ELectoral College long predates the popular vote, as at the time the only voters were landowners small and large (even the rich didn't qualify necessarily, only landowners. But outside of the large states the plantations most heads of family were landowners of some sort) -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso Valeyntine church Part II
Did some new photos of the church a while back, with the zeniter 16mm. I was going to use the 16-45, but i forgot it.:-( Still trying to make the tree work as a frame. I don't think it will, but comments are invited. I know Bob S wanted to see the whole front of the church, so here it is. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6920989 K10D 16mm, PSCS with red filter DAVE -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron lens
I had this Sigma with HSM in Nikon mount. It wasn't as fast as Dario's 70-200/2.8 in K mount screwdriven by *istD. If Dario reads it he may confirm this. AFAIR it was about as fast as DA* 50-135 despite ring USM motor, so nothing special. Contrary to this Canon L 70-200/2.8 IS was much faster when I tried it. Cheers, Sylwek On 06.02.2008, at 00:58 , Adam Maas wrote: I've heard $699 as the likely price. There's also a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 HSM that's likely to be the fastest focusing lens available for Pentax when it's released shortly (It gets a real ring-type USM motor, which are typically much faster than the micro-motor USM setup Pentax is using on the DA*'s to allow for dual-drive). The Sigma's going to be more expensive though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Old (and funny) Pentax commercial
Cool On Feb 6, 2008 11:17 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrjqiG-YNfc -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Old (and funny) Pentax commercial
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Re: American Experience - PBS
FREE THE PHOTONS, STOP THE VIOLENCE. Regards, Bob S. On Feb 5, 2008 4:32 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: American Experience - PBS It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and much faster. When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#. Where will it all end? Back when we just took pictures, I wasn't worried, there were lots of pictures to be taken, and there was little chance of running out. You could even take the same picture over and over again, even different people could do that. When we took pictures, we let the light escape, sort of a catch and release philosophy. Now, we don't take pictures, we capture them. Eventually, if we aren't careful, they will become extinct, along with the light that we are no longer releasing. It will all end in a sad, pictureless darkness. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
Voting only makes the system work if you know what you are voting for. If you don't pay a attention you're not doing any good and may in fact be doing positive harm. I think Half of the primary voters, (and some of the candidates), haven't a clue about what the process is about. I'd say about half the support for each comes from total irreverencies, Obama gets support because he's acceptably black, Hillary because she's a woman, McKane because he's a war hero, Huckaby because he's an evangelical minister, Romney because he's movie star, (think Pat Boone), handsome. Maybe a quarter of their support comes because they don't have somebody else's baggage,. Hillery's a woman /and/ Bill's wife, Obama might be secretly a Moslem, oh yes and you might have noticed he’s black, (I wish that last weren’t true but you’d have to be a fool not to realize it). McKane is in favor of the War in Iraq, Huckaby is an evangelical minister, (hey for most of these people it works both ways), Romney's a, oh God no, a /Morman/. Exit polls bear this out general cluelessness . Just for example I mean, really, in what universe could you vote for McKane or Hillery based on their economic acumen. They both have the same understanding of economics that my dog has of tensor calculus, (don’t think I’m picking on these two, most of the candidates have that level of expertise). McKane even admits it, and it’s so obvious in Hillary’s case that even the totally clueless should realize it. Yet exit polling has a number of people giving them both high marks on the economy. Every single one of these candidates at one time or another, some more often others, have made promises that are not only, not functions of the office they are running for, but in fact are specially prohibited by the constitution. That alone should disqualify them from holding hight office. I find myself in total disgust most of the time. People should be voting for the good of the country, or failing that in their own and their children’s best interests. In most cases they are voting with out even considering the good of the country or knowing if a particular candidate is in those interests in mind, because they don’t actually pay attention until they get to the voting booth and then it’s too late. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/5/2008 10:41:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think this is what has me confused. When we elect what passes for a government, Parliament is dissolved, the campaigning runs for about a month, then we pick the least offensive option. I don't understand what the primarys are supposed to accomplish. William Robb === Yes, you do. We don't have a parliamentary system. I think our system is unique. Though I think some may have copied it since. Three branches, Congress, Supreme Court, President. The first two can make laws, the last can't. But basically the idea is Congress makes laws, the Supreme Court interprets them when there is a conflict, and the President is like the CEO, he runs the show, but doesn't actually make laws. Checks and balances. Primaries are to determine the nominee for each party, the Democratic and Republican. Third parties have been a small blib on the screen, never really taken hold. And Independents, which have grown in numbers. Me, I think a six or eight party system would be just dandy, but it's never really materialized. Nothing wrong with the parliamentary system, but that's not the way this country was set-up. We are one big country with tons of people, so it takes awhile to get around to all the states and it takes a while to hear the candidates and it takes a while for them to line up votes. On the whole, it works. Sometimes it doesn't work as well as we would like. I've been watching the political scene for a long, long time now, and even when I despair, in the end, I usually feel it works to a large degree. I also started voting as soon as I was old enough and have voted in every election, local and national, since. It works best when people vote. Apathy is when it works least. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Escalating
On 2/6/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe Frank, Do you have someone locally who can do BW digital prints for you? You could very easily sell this one. And quite a few of the other shots you've shared recently. I'd buy an 8x10 of this one, frame it, and put it on my wall. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
We were kind of pissed at parliament. Cotty wrote: On 06/02/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Nothing wrong with the parliamentary system, but that's not the way this country was set-up. H. I wonder why? - ;-) -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Escalating
Not bad at all. I would have like a more shapely body at the top, for that matter either a couple of steps down might be a little better. frank theriault wrote: http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
At least two states were theocracies as well. To vote in Connecticut and Massachusetts you had to be a land owner and a member of the Congregational Church. Adam Maas wrote: On 2/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/5/2008 11:19:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's use the democrats as an example, since I actually know a couple of their names. In the present campaign then, the primaries would be determining if Obama or Clinton would be the candidate in the real election, which isn't really an election since some other electing body (the Electoral College?) actually elects the president based on lord only knows what criteria? I think my eyes are bleeding. Gads, I suppose I should just google this. William Robb Technically. But I think only two times in history (okay, maybe a few more but I'd have to look it up), has the popular vote and the electoral vote differed. The thing that's throwing you is that one of those times was the Gore/Bush election, but that was the first time since I don't know when, ages ago. Gore had more popular votes and Bush had more electoral votes. (Someone really wants to get precise about it, feel free to jump in.) That part is a bit Byzantine, I agree. And periodically people get steamed up about doing away with the electoral college. But to date, it hasn't happened. The historical roots for that are that originally only white men could vote (not women, not blacks, etc.) and they didn't trust the unwashed masses and wanted to limit the power of the popular vote. Of course, now it's one person, one vote, and I think we could well do away with the electoral college. Smaller states with low population though like it because it gives them more say. Sure you could, re google, but heck we can give you the Reader's Digest version. :-) The thing is what a big country we are, it slows everything down. And it costs a lot these days to win an election, so it all takes time. But I wouldn't mind it being a tad quicker. The other confusing thing is political pundits (and ordinary people) will discuss someone's future election chances years before the primaries even roll around. It doesn't mean the election has started, it just means we are always talking about future elections, four and eight years down the road too. They were talking about Hillary's chances years and years ago. So all of that future speculation also makes it look longer than it really is. It really takes about a year, but that included prep time, not the primaries. Primaries to general vote take less than a year (and if someone wants to be specific about that, jump right in.) Bit late here and my brain is a bit fogged. HTH, Marnie Actually the historical roots of the Electoral College comes down to a compromise between the small colonies and the large ones. They needed to balance influence between the two groups to prevent the large states from utterly dominating the presidential selection. The ELectoral College long predates the popular vote, as at the time the only voters were landowners small and large (even the rich didn't qualify necessarily, only landowners. But outside of the large states the plantations most heads of family were landowners of some sort) -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waiting for the ball...
Kooks like a new t-shirt. David J Brooks wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 11:44 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Timber Subject: PESO: Waiting for the ball... Ps.: This picture shows the true powers why I love the K10D. 1/5sec @ 105mm handheld with no flash and except the detail loss because the high ISO (1600) there is no blur. So a big kudos to all the Pentax engineers! :D I know. I have a few friends in photo groups here who downgrade the shake reduction on the Pentax. Apparently, it doesn't work as well as the lens based image stabilization. It's usually about then that I put the A*85/1.4 onto my K10 and ask them if their Canon comes with one of these? Pentax: it's not a camera, it's a religion. You know the drillMARK DAVE William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
It was the corrupt bargain of 1824 in which Henry Clay threw his support to John Quincy Addams, as opposed to Andrew Jackson. A result that in retrospect probably made Jackson an even worse President after being elected in his own right in 1828. I know I'm swimming up stream by considering him not one of the greats but so be it. In that case no candidate received the requisite majority of electoral votes, there were four candidates and Jackson received a plurality of the popular votes. The election was settled in the house where Clay who was also a candidate supposedly was speaker. After Adams won he made Clay Sec. of State. An office much more coveted than VP in those days as a stepping stone to the Presidency. The only other time anything like this happened was in 1876 where several states, (I forget how many), had contested vote counts. Without them neither candidate would have an electoral majority. This of course once again threw the election into the house. A complex deal was worked out that put the Republican in the White House and ended reconstruction, and military occupation of the former Confederacy. As usual it satisfied no one and we are dealing with the repercussions to this day. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/5/2008 11:19:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's use the democrats as an example, since I actually know a couple of their names. In the present campaign then, the primaries would be determining if Obama or Clinton would be the candidate in the real election, which isn't really an election since some other electing body (the Electoral College?) actually elects the president based on lord only knows what criteria? I think my eyes are bleeding. Gads, I suppose I should just google this. William Robb Technically. But I think only two times in history (okay, maybe a few more but I'd have to look it up), has the popular vote and the electoral vote differed. The thing that's throwing you is that one of those times was the Gore/Bush election, but that was the first time since I don't know when, ages ago. Gore had more popular votes and Bush had more electoral votes. (Someone really wants to get precise about it, feel free to jump in.) That part is a bit Byzantine, I agree. And periodically people get steamed up about doing away with the electoral college. But to date, it hasn't happened. The historical roots for that are that originally only white men could vote (not women, not blacks, etc.) and they didn't trust the unwashed masses and wanted to limit the power of the popular vote. Of course, now it's one person, one vote, and I think we could well do away with the electoral college. Smaller states with low population though like it because it gives them more say. Sure you could, re google, but heck we can give you the Reader's Digest version. :-) The thing is what a big country we are, it slows everything down. And it costs a lot these days to win an election, so it all takes time. But I wouldn't mind it being a tad quicker. The other confusing thing is political pundits (and ordinary people) will discuss someone's future election chances years before the primaries even roll around. It doesn't mean the election has started, it just means we are always talking about future elections, four and eight years down the road too. They were talking about Hillary's chances years and years ago. So all of that future speculation also makes it look longer than it really is. It really takes about a year, but that included prep time, not the primaries. Primaries to general vote take less than a year (and if someone wants to be specific about that, jump right in.) Bit late here and my brain is a bit fogged. HTH, Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Old (and funny) Pentax commercial
That's weird. But many early advertisements were. The fact that it's Japanese makes it seem even stranger. Adam Maas wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrjqiG-YNfc -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Escalating
On 06/02/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/ s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks. Love it Frank. I was going to say that it would be better with the head of the person in shot, but that's too cliched. I like it better as it is. Fabulous gritty quality, looks like film. Nice one. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
Wikipedia is a good starting point for many different areas of information. However, it would be a big mistake to trust Wikipedia universally: it can be, and it has been (and it is, and will be) wrong in some questions/areas. So, always - often. :-) Igor Wed Feb 6 04:49:46 EST 2008 mike wilson wrote: The answer's on Wikipedia. It always is. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That shouldn't be Clay supposedly was speaker, he was speaker, he supposedly was bought off by being offered a higher office. P. J. Alling wrote: It was the corrupt bargain of 1824 in which Henry Clay threw his support to John Quincy Addams, as opposed to Andrew Jackson. A result that in retrospect probably made Jackson an even worse President after being elected in his own right in 1828. I know I'm swimming up stream by considering him not one of the greats but so be it. In that case no candidate received the requisite majority of electoral votes, there were four candidates and Jackson received a plurality of the popular votes. The election was settled in the house where Clay who was also a candidate supposedly was speaker. After Adams won he made Clay Sec. of State. An office much more coveted than VP in those days as a stepping stone to the Presidency. The only other time anything like this happened was in 1876 where several states, (I forget how many), had contested vote counts. Without them neither candidate would have an electoral majority. This of course once again threw the election into the house. A complex deal was worked out that put the Republican in the White House and ended reconstruction, and military occupation of the former Confederacy. As usual it satisfied no one and we are dealing with the repercussions to this day. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/5/2008 11:19:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's use the democrats as an example, since I actually know a couple of their names. In the present campaign then, the primaries would be determining if Obama or Clinton would be the candidate in the real election, which isn't really an election since some other electing body (the Electoral College?) actually elects the president based on lord only knows what criteria? I think my eyes are bleeding. Gads, I suppose I should just google this. William Robb Technically. But I think only two times in history (okay, maybe a few more but I'd have to look it up), has the popular vote and the electoral vote differed. The thing that's throwing you is that one of those times was the Gore/Bush election, but that was the first time since I don't know when, ages ago. Gore had more popular votes and Bush had more electoral votes. (Someone really wants to get precise about it, feel free to jump in.) That part is a bit Byzantine, I agree. And periodically people get steamed up about doing away with the electoral college. But to date, it hasn't happened. The historical roots for that are that originally only white men could vote (not women, not blacks, etc.) and they didn't trust the unwashed masses and wanted to limit the power of the popular vote. Of course, now it's one person, one vote, and I think we could well do away with the electoral college. Smaller states with low population though like it because it gives them more say. Sure you could, re google, but heck we can give you the Reader's Digest version. :-) The thing is what a big country we are, it slows everything down. And it costs a lot these days to win an election, so it all takes time. But I wouldn't mind it being a tad quicker. The other confusing thing is political pundits (and ordinary people) will discuss someone's future election chances years before the primaries even roll around. It doesn't mean the election has started, it just means we are always talking about future elections, four and eight years down the road too. They were talking about Hillary's chances years and years ago. So all of that future speculation also makes it look longer than it really is. It really takes about a year, but that included prep time, not the primaries. Primaries to general vote take less than a year (and if someone wants to be specific about that, jump right in.) Bit late here and my brain is a bit fogged. HTH, Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pseduo IR plug in
On 06/02/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: I expanded the file, put it in a folder and have linked to it in preferences. Photoshop plugins go in the folder marked 'Plugins', inside the Adobe Photoshop folder in your Applications folder. If it sits inside its own folder in there then it will still be seen in the Filters menu in the Menubar at the top, but will appear as a submenu..I think! HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wed Feb 6 01:52:36 EST 2008 Eactivist wrote: In a message dated 2/5/2008 10:41:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, warobb at gmail.com writes: I think this is what has me confused. .. William Robb Bill, If you are interested beyond the crash course already given by PDMLers, a good starting point to learn primary elections is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primaries === Yes, you do. We don't have a parliamentary system. I think our system is unique. Though I think some may have copied it since. Three branches, Congress, Supreme Court, President. The first two can make laws, the last can't. But basically the idea is Congress makes laws, the Supreme Court interprets them when there is a conflict, and the President is like the CEO, he runs the show, but doesn't actually make laws. Checks and balances. Marnie, Sorry, but I would correct you, so that people don't get confused any further. :-) Only Congress (the legislative branch) can MAKE laws. As you said, Supereme Court can only INTERPRET them. Yes, they affect the way the laws work, but it is not equivivalent to making them. The same way as the President, by nominating the supreme judges can affect the way the law is interpreted, or by making deals with the Congress or by vetoing the bill can affect which laws are accepted, but he still doesn't MAKE laws. Primaries are to determine the nominee for each party, the Democratic and Republican. Third parties have been a small blib on the screen, never really taken hold. And Independents, which have grown in numbers. This is one of the idiosyncrasies of the US electorial system: In my opinion, the fact that primaries are limited to only two parties prevent other parties coming to light, and hence prevent them from gaining more public support. Primaries (which run for several months) give a lot of exposure to the candidates from the Republican and Democratic parties. Other parties' candidates do not get that exposure. Taking into account that majority of the voters' response is based on what they gets into their brain via regular bombardment of TV/Radio/media, this gives unfair advantage to the two oldest parties. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Escalating
Well this is the kind of shot that just reaches out and grabs you! Very nicely done. -- Bruce Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 5:58:44 AM, you wrote: ft http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe ft http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg ft Comments always welcome. Thanks. ft cheers, ft frank ft -- ft Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waiting for the ball...
On 06/02/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Kooks like a new t-shirt. Kooks like a lot of things. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pseduo IR plug in
On 06/02/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Seems it put the plug in into the fotofusion folder. I was expecting a seperate folder. You can move it and put it anywhere you like within that folder. Create a new folder if you like and put it in there? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
On 2/6/08, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one of the idiosyncrasies of the US electorial system: In my opinion, the fact that primaries are limited to only two parties prevent other parties coming to light, and hence prevent them from gaining more public support. Primaries (which run for several months) give a lot of exposure to the candidates from the Republican and Democratic parties. Other parties' candidates do not get that exposure. Taking into account that majority of the voters' response is based on what they gets into their brain via regular bombardment of TV/Radio/media, this gives unfair advantage to the two oldest parties. Igor The primaries are not limited to only two parties. In fact the Green Party held 4 primaries on Super Tuesday as well. The Libertarian Party doesn't use the primary system, preferring a brokered convention. All the other parties are too small to really use the primary system, which is only of value to large parties. However the two largest parties do get most of the media coverage, with the Green party getting the rest (Despite the Libertarian party actually being larger. But then again, the Greens don't run outright nutjobs every 4 years for the Presidential Ticket). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Waiting for the ball...
Aaaww. Play it again, Sam... :-) Nice shot Jostein 2008/2/6, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: First a little story :D There was an opera-ball last week for the rich people and at the other side of the street there was an anti-rich-people-street-party with rock music :D Many guests (incl. Andy Vajna, Richard Clayderman etc) arrived to the ball in fancy cars and even with Hummer Limuzine :D Once, from nowhere a very old Wartburg (non EU ppl would raise eyebrow here... Wartburg is a very old eastern style car. I think along with Trabant it was the Communist Suzuki :D :D :D) arrived. It was really funny and the show just began. From the car a hippie-like guy and girl stepped out with the same 'style' as the other guests :D Meanwhile a guy dressed like Richard Clayderman, a guy in fancy-like clothes and the girl on the photo stepped out of crowd and they started arguing about who can go in the ball, since one arrived with car and the other has fancy clothes :D It was really funny, like an ironic mirror to those who entered the ball, but it seemed to me that they've lost their sense of humour. And now for the picture, which has nothing to do with the story above... except she was one of the participants of this short, but very funny show. http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92595914 .timber Ps.: This picture shows the true powers why I love the K10D. 1/5sec @ 105mm handheld with no flash and except the detail loss because the high ISO (1600) there is no blur. So a big kudos to all the Pentax engineers! :D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
Adam Maas wrote: The primaries are not limited to only two parties. In fact the Green Party held 4 primaries on Super Tuesday as well. The Libertarian Party doesn't use the primary system, preferring a brokered convention. All the other parties are too small to really use the primary system, which is only of value to large parties. However the two largest parties do get most of the media coverage, with the Green party getting the rest (Despite the Libertarian party actually being larger. But then again, the Greens don't run outright nutjobs every 4 years for the Presidential Ticket). To the contrary, Michael Badnarik was the only sane candidate last time around. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Waiting for the ball...
On Feb 5, 2008 11:24 PM, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First a little story :D There was an opera-ball last week for the rich people and at the other side of the street there was an anti-rich-people-street-party with rock music :D Many guests (incl. Andy Vajna, Richard Clayderman etc) arrived to the ball in fancy cars and even with Hummer Limuzine :D Once, from nowhere a very old Wartburg (non EU ppl would raise eyebrow here... Wartburg is a very old eastern style car. I think along with Trabant it was the Communist Suzuki :D :D :D) arrived. It was really funny and the show just began. From the car a hippie-like guy and girl stepped out with the same 'style' as the other guests :D Meanwhile a guy dressed like Richard Clayderman, a guy in fancy-like clothes and the girl on the photo stepped out of crowd and they started arguing about who can go in the ball, since one arrived with car and the other has fancy clothes :D It was really funny, like an ironic mirror to those who entered the ball, but it seemed to me that they've lost their sense of humour. And now for the picture, which has nothing to do with the story above... except she was one of the participants of this short, but very funny show. http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92595914 Beautiful photo of a beautiful woman. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Escalating
A great shot, Frank. Really grabbed me. Jostein 2008/2/6, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600-h/feb_04_08+001.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
2008/2/5, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and much faster. When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#. Where will it all end? Who knows... C#ish? Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
Actually if you listen closely the Greens do run outright nut jobs at least as often as the Libertarians, sadly many in the Democratic party are close enough them that their lunacy gets lost in the general noise. Adam Maas wrote: On 2/6/08, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one of the idiosyncrasies of the US electorial system: In my opinion, the fact that primaries are limited to only two parties prevent other parties coming to light, and hence prevent them from gaining more public support. Primaries (which run for several months) give a lot of exposure to the candidates from the Republican and Democratic parties. Other parties' candidates do not get that exposure. Taking into account that majority of the voters' response is based on what they gets into their brain via regular bombardment of TV/Radio/media, this gives unfair advantage to the two oldest parties. Igor The primaries are not limited to only two parties. In fact the Green Party held 4 primaries on Super Tuesday as well. The Libertarian Party doesn't use the primary system, preferring a brokered convention. All the other parties are too small to really use the primary system, which is only of value to large parties. However the two largest parties do get most of the media coverage, with the Green party getting the rest (Despite the Libertarian party actually being larger. But then again, the Greens don't run outright nutjobs every 4 years for the Presidential Ticket). -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Escalating
On Feb 6, 2008 2:21 PM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A great shot, Frank. Really grabbed me. Well, thanks, Jostein. And thanks to everyone else who commented. I have to say I'm rather overwhelmed with the response to this one. I hesitated posting it, because I thought it was so technically deficient - the left of the frame is so blown out I thought it not worthy of posting. I decided to post it, only because I thought the overall composition was strong enough to, if not overcome, at least compensate for the aforementioned deficit. I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned it. A few have commented about the figure's head being cut off. That doesn't bother me so much - in fact, I think it makes for stronger geometries and helps the overall composition. Anyway, again, thanks to everyone who has commented. This was almost a throw-away. I'm glad I kept and showed it... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
AlunFoto wrote: 2008/2/5, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and much faster. When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#. Where will it all end? Who knows... C#ish? Jostein You're missing the obvious Super C... -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
In a message dated 2/6/2008 8:11:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually the historical roots of the Electoral College comes down to a compromise between the small colonies and the large ones. They needed to balance influence between the two groups to prevent the large states from utterly dominating the presidential selection. The ELectoral College long predates the popular vote, as at the time the only voters were landowners small and large (even the rich didn't qualify necessarily, only landowners. But outside of the large states the plantations most heads of family were landowners of some sort) -- M. Adam Maas == Yeah, I realized later I left that out. The only ones that could vote were white male landowners. Sorry. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
In a message dated 2/6/2008 9:31:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was the corrupt bargain of 1824 in which Henry Clay threw his support to John Quincy Addams, as opposed to Andrew Jackson. A result that in retrospect probably made Jackson an even worse President after being elected in his own right in 1828. I know I'm swimming up stream by considering him not one of the greats but so be it. In that case no candidate received the requisite majority of electoral votes, there were four candidates and Jackson received a plurality of the popular votes. The election was settled in the house where Clay who was also a candidate supposedly was speaker. After Adams won he made Clay Sec. of State. An office much more coveted than VP in those days as a stepping stone to the Presidency. The only other time anything like this happened was in 1876 where several states, (I forget how many), had contested vote counts. Without them neither candidate would have an electoral majority.This of course once again threw the election into the house. A complex deal was worked out that put the Republican in the White House and ended reconstruction, and military occupation of the former Confederacy. As usual it satisfied no one and we are dealing with the repercussions to this day. === Funny, when I was writing that last night, late, I kind of figured you would know, Peter. :-) I thought it was that far back, but was not up to googling to find out. Glad you can fill in. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
Isn't that usually one step up beyond the #ish? :-) Jostein 2008/2/6, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AlunFoto wrote: 2008/2/5, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and much faster. When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#. Where will it all end? Who knows... C#ish? Jostein You're missing the obvious Super C... -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
What strikes me as most odd about the American system is the extreme focus on the single persons running for office. Not really the media pressure itself, but I get the feeling that the candidates have to play up to people's expectations in that respect. I accept that being non-american is probably the reason why I find this a bit alienating... :-) Jostein 2008/2/6, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: P.S. Basically politics is the great American sport. Not football, not baseball, etc. Anyone can play even if that playing is just commenting and/or bemoaning. We can get rather rabid about our teams just like in any sport. Great fun sometimes, other times a major PITA. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Incredible Chicago Fog Today
On Feb 4, 2008 8:41 PM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone: Chicago is having an incredible fog right now, so incredible that ALL flights in out of Midway Airport have been cancelled. The fog is expected to sit in the city until 1 am. Also, this is my first time ever shooting fog. I've never done fog shots. These were taken on the way home from work. This is the school grounds of an area Chicago high school. This sure was exciting for me, since I've never had the opportunity to photograph dramatic fog before. Slide Show--just 6 shots http://photo.net/photodb/slideshow?folder_id=806363 Stills Folder--same 6 shots http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=806363 All are wonderful - #4 is my favourite. So mysterious looking! Nicely composed (as they all are). I've gotta say, though that's not so foggy. I used to spend summers with my grandparents in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. Now those guys have thick fog! ;-) Seriously, wonderful photos! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Waiting for the ball...
Missed this one the first time around. And now for the picture, which has nothing to do with the story above... except she was one of the participants of this short, but very funny show. http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92595914 Cracking good shot mate. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Any Folkies?
Shameless plug for Fairport Convention here. If you're a folky and like Fairport, order the 'Fairport at Forty' DVD from the web site: http://www.fairportconvention.com/ Direct link: http://www.fairportconvention.com/catalogue.php? cmsCategoryID=9cmsProductID=199DisplayType=DisplayProdDetails http://tinyurl.com/yro3kx USA shipping starts 7th Feb. Only 20 quid, and it's a lovely tribute to 40 glorious years of Fairport. Oh yeah, and you get to see a lot of my work in it :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
In a message dated 2/6/2008 11:50:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What strikes me as most odd about the American system is the extreme focus on the single persons running for office. Not really the media pressure itself, but I get the feeling that the candidates have to play up to people's expectations in that respect. I accept that being non-american is probably the reason why I find this a bit alienating... :-) Jostein = Nyah. Lots of Americans do too. It's often over the top. TV, Internet. It only got as bad as it is now because of all the media hype. In other words, that has always been present to a some degree, but the media flash and hype has just gotten worse and worse over the years. Well, back to photography. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Tower and Crane.
On Feb 3, 2008 1:43 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Night shot in downtown Toronto http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/2237971823/ Larger/direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/2237971823_646395de42_b.jpg K10D, Sigma 17-70. For some reason, it just doesn't quite all come together for me. It's an almost, but not quite thing. The wall and the cars in the foreground distract too much from the real subjects, the crane and the CN Tower. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Escalating
In a message dated 2/6/2008 5:59:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://tinyurl.com/3y6roe http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R6heG3YrVbI/Ba0/gdiIKbtywSo/s1600- h/feb_04_08+001.jpg Comments always welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank === Huh. Very interesting shot, frank. Mixed reactions, I like it and I wish there was more of the man. Or that the sides were darker. If it was mine I might go in and dodge the triangles on the sides, beyond the escalator, just a tad. But interesting shot. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Ft Griswold; Parade Ground and Obelisk
On Feb 5, 2008 9:53 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I decided to post one more from Ft. Griswold. Showing the parade grounds and the Obelisk, (battlefield memorial built in the 1920's, the US went kind of Obelisk crazy after the completion of the Washington Monument). Oblisks. Probably telluric valves. Cool photo of an interesting area. I like the bleak, dismal skies - I think they're necessary for this shot. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
I suppose... AlunFoto wrote: Isn't that usually one step up beyond the #ish? :-) Jostein 2008/2/6, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AlunFoto wrote: 2008/2/5, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and much faster. When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#. Where will it all end? Who knows... C#ish? Jostein You're missing the obvious Super C... -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Waiting for the ball...
In a message dated 2/5/2008 8:29:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And now for the picture, which has nothing to do with the story above... except she was one of the participants of this short, but very funny show. http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92595914 .timber Ps.: This picture shows the true powers why I love the K10D. 1/5sec @ 105mm handheld with no flash and except the detail loss because the high ISO (1600) there is no blur. So a big kudos to all the Pentax engineers! :D === Very nice. Looks like an old photo, circa 1940's-1950's. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Tower and Crane.
In a message dated 2/6/2008 12:07:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Feb 3, 2008 1:43 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Night shot in downtown Toronto http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/2237971823/ Larger/direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/2237971823_646395de42_b.jpg K10D, Sigma 17-70. For some reason, it just doesn't quite all come together for me. It's an almost, but not quite thing. The wall and the cars in the foreground distract too much from the real subjects, the crane and the CN Tower. cheers, frank What he said. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Big Freakin Lens
In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:05:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: uh-oh. I see lens envy coming. Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/5/2008 3:23 PM That's the knife?.. (From Crocodile Dundee movie) http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp 256 kg (564 lb) - that is the real lens!!! Anyone who develops lens envy for this is probably a little psychotic. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Old (and funny) Pentax commercial
In a message dated 2/6/2008 8:21:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrjqiG-YNfc -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. I don't know. That might work now. Heh. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A couple Hi-res samples (very nice IMO)
In a message dated 2/6/2008 12:23:52 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Still from that Dubai meeting ;) It is from early firmware but got the authorization to publish them according to LetsGoDigital. Each pics about 10Megs so modem users, get lost ! ;) http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/18238/pentax-k20d-sample-photos/ IMO well... I will try to find reason not to upgrade ;) I don't need it but those pics got me on my bottom. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille Thanks, Thibault, but very annoying they stuck a camera pic in front of each photo. Don't know what they were thinking. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Old (and funny) Pentax commercial
On Feb 6, 2008 11:17 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrjqiG-YNfc -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. I'm quite sure that's Mark... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Big Freakin Lens
And your point is? Psychoses are the variety of life. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/6/2008 3:22 PM In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:05:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: uh-oh. I see lens envy coming. Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/5/2008 3:23 PM That's the knife?.. (From Crocodile Dundee movie) http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100101zeiss1700f4.asp 256 kg (564 lb) - that is the real lens!!! Anyone who develops lens envy for this is probably a little psychotic. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47aa1906313732098723320! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: American Experience - PBS
I was just glad our CA primary ballot had so few propositions. But I am sure that will change on the general election ballot. It's like having homework, boring but hard-to-research homework. Marnie Just do what I used to do at school, copy from the person next to you. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Missed the Train
http://www.neovenator.com/2008/02/train.html Details: K10D with DA21 1/25th f4.5 ISO 1600 Embarcadero BART station in San Francisco Really hot girl with an ugly bag Creepy guy with camera John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
I practice a shoot and release program. Dave On Feb 6, 2008 11:43 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FREE THE PHOTONS, STOP THE VIOLENCE. Regards, Bob S. On Feb 5, 2008 4:32 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: American Experience - PBS It was easier back then - light was slower. Nowadays it's digital, and much faster. When light was just a wave it couldn't go faster than C, but since it became just a particle it's been going at C++, and now it's up to C#. Where will it all end? Back when we just took pictures, I wasn't worried, there were lots of pictures to be taken, and there was little chance of running out. You could even take the same picture over and over again, even different people could do that. When we took pictures, we let the light escape, sort of a catch and release philosophy. Now, we don't take pictures, we capture them. Eventually, if we aren't careful, they will become extinct, along with the light that we are no longer releasing. It will all end in a sad, pictureless darkness. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - for John Bailey :-)
On Feb 5, 2008 12:29 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes, so am I not supposed to comment on personalized PESOs? I didn't realize this. Sorry, Bong. Sorry, John Bailey. I sincerely didn't know this. Didn't mean to commit a faux paw. Christine AFAIK, these personalized PESOs are somewhat tongue in cheek. At least mine to Cotty was. I think I did another one (can't really remember that far back - hell, I have trouble remembering what I ate for dinner last night) too. In any event, my thinking is that these things are personalized insofar as the poster would like the PESO to be seen by the person referred to. That in no way prevents anyone else who chooses to view it in commenting. In fact, my preference as a poster is that everyone comment, despite the personalization. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waiting for the ball...
So you got a problem with that?Regards, Bob S. On Feb 6, 2008 5:33 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 6, 2008 1:44 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax: it's not a camera, it's a religion. Given some of the behaviour on other forums, it's more like a fundamentalist psycho-nut-job cult. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - for John Bailey :-)
On Feb 4, 2008 4:05 AM, Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personalized PESOs? Me too :-D Did some TFCD shots and I used a combination of a Canon AE-1 Program and John's ex-SMC Takumar 135/2.5... http://www.bong.uni.cc/peso/2008-07b.htm That's not exactly the best photo, but its one of the better ones using the Canon/Takumar combo. I loaded it up because a friend in another forum wants to see shots from a Tak 135/2.5. The thumbnail leads to what I think is the best shot (this one uses the DS and the lowly SMCP A 50/2). I like the one with the butterflies on the wall. The other one is too bright, IMHO. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - for John Bailey :-)
On Feb 5, 2008 12:33 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christine, this is a public forum, if it's posted here you can comment. I doubt that anyone actually expects any kind of privacy and they certainly won't receive any. These directed PESOs are a very new thing. Though I may have contributed to them some time ago by posting a picture titled One for Frank more in jest than anything else. I would assume that anything intended for me ~would~ be in jest. Especially if it comes from the likes of you! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
tamron 28-70 at f2.8
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/tamron.jpg You can see were i have shown the focus line, and whats in focus. To me, at under F4, it looks like the lens is covered by a thing cloth or light smear of vasoline. I have talked with the salesman, and it is returnable. I'll see whe else the have. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Missed the Train
Great shot Dave On Feb 6, 2008 3:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.neovenator.com/2008/02/train.html Details: K10D with DA21 1/25th f4.5 ISO 1600 Embarcadero BART station in San Francisco Really hot girl with an ugly bag Creepy guy with camera John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Redwood Fern
On Feb 4, 2008 3:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Archives keep yielding up a few more. But good weather today, so maybe I can shoot this week. (Though forecasts say rain starting tomorrow through the rest of the week. Sigh, sigh.) A lot of the Redwood forests (patches of forest) the further you go up along the California coast, have ferns. Lots of ferns at the base of the Redwoods. Taken in 2006, on my Redwood trip. Not quite what I wanted (I really should employ a tripod more), but close and I think it doesn't look bad. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/fern.htm Love the light! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Missed the Train
On Feb 6, 2008 3:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.neovenator.com/2008/02/train.html Details: K10D with DA21 1/25th f4.5 ISO 1600 Embarcadero BART station in San Francisco Really hot girl with an ugly bag Creepy guy with camera Cool shot. Like the tilt! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Redwood Fern
A lot of the Redwood forests (patches of forest) the further you go up along the California coast, have ferns. Lots of ferns at the base of the Redwoods. Taken in 2006, on my Redwood trip. Not quite what I wanted (I really should employ a tripod more), but close and I think it doesn't look bad. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/fern.htm Love the light! cheers, frank == Thanks, frank. Marnie aka that Doe person :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 28-70 at f2.8
On Feb 6, 2008 4:17 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/tamron.jpg You can see were i have shown the focus line, and whats in focus. To me, at under F4, it looks like the lens is covered by a thing cloth or light smear of vasoline. I have talked with the salesman, and it is returnable. I'll see whe else the have. I think they mistakenly gave you the Limited Edition Frank Theriault Model... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Q. regarding the 70mm Limited on FF/film
Hello, I'd like to know if the 70mm Limited will cover (with good results) the 35mm frame, and for that I need your help. I've saw some time ago a test but I can't find it again :( I remember the 70mm was OK re. vignetting, however I don't know if the corners are sharp (from what I've saw the DA 40mm is very bad in the corners on FF). I'll try to get/borrow a 70mm and take few test shots, but if someone on this list already did that I'd appreciate any info. I know, the 77mm would be safer - but I haven't shoot film for some time anyway... besides, I like the QSF on the DA Limited. Thanks! -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - for John Bailey :-)
Well surely... frank theriault wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 12:33 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christine, this is a public forum, if it's posted here you can comment. I doubt that anyone actually expects any kind of privacy and they certainly won't receive any. These directed PESOs are a very new thing. Though I may have contributed to them some time ago by posting a picture titled One for Frank more in jest than anything else. I would assume that anything intended for me ~would~ be in jest. Especially if it comes from the likes of you! ;-) cheers, frank -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Q. regarding the 70mm Limited on FF/film
Short answer, No. Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: Hello, I'd like to know if the 70mm Limited will cover (with good results) the 35mm frame, and for that I need your help. I've saw some time ago a test but I can't find it again :( I remember the 70mm was OK re. vignetting, however I don't know if the corners are sharp (from what I've saw the DA 40mm is very bad in the corners on FF). I'll try to get/borrow a 70mm and take few test shots, but if someone on this list already did that I'd appreciate any info. I know, the 77mm would be safer - but I haven't shoot film for some time anyway... besides, I like the QSF on the DA Limited. Thanks! -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Bellows
I just bought a Pentax Bellows from an internet telescope source. The pic tells that it is a screw mount version. Are there special adapters available to convert these to K-mount, or do I just get the M-42 - K adapter ring for both ends? Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
Wow, this is really beginning to get interesting ... ]'-) Godfrey On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:51 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I practice a shoot and release program. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
I just caught the broadcast of Grand Central and the prior episode on building the subways of New York. Very well done, both of them, although neither quite at the same level as the awesome 8 part series on the history of New York City done in the late 1990s by PBS. If you have not seen that, it is well worth renting ... The photographs of Grand Central Terminal are delightful. That's one of my favorite places to visit and shoot, has been since 1968. It's great to know more about the history of GCT as well. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Bellows
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:41:09PM -0500, Walter Hamler wrote: I just bought a Pentax Bellows from an internet telescope source. The pic tells that it is a screw mount version. Are there special adapters available to convert these to K-mount, or do I just get the M-42 - K adapter ring for both ends? Walt You might be out of luck - I don't know of an adapter to fit a K-mount lens onto a screw-mount body (or bellows). The M-42 - K adapter ring will let you mount a screw-mount lens (or bellows) on a K-mount body, but the only lenses you will be able to use are screw-mount lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Bellows
On 2/6/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought a Pentax Bellows from an internet telescope source. The pic tells that it is a screw mount version. Are there special adapters available to convert these to K-mount, or do I just get the M-42 - K adapter ring for both ends? You'll need a screw-mount lens for the far end of the bellows. I'm sure someone on the list has one they'd be happy to sell you. There was a 50mm Bellows Takumar that was designed specifically for use with the bellows, but any screw-mount lens will fit. For the camera end, you'll need an M42-K mount adapter, plus you might need an extension tube if you're shooting with one of the DSLRs that has a prism/flash base that overhangs the lens mount. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Street instruments :D
http://www.pbase.com/image/92621610 Sorry if I send too many pictures these days :D but I have time and I spend it on pentaxing around the town :P .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
- Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin Subject: Re: American Experience - PBS If you are interested beyond the crash course already given by PDMLers, a good starting point to learn primary elections is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primaries Thanks Igor. The crash course has taught me to be happy with what I have though. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Bellows
- Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: Pentax Bellows On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:41:09PM -0500, Walter Hamler wrote: I just bought a Pentax Bellows from an internet telescope source. The pic tells that it is a screw mount version. Are there special adapters available to convert these to K-mount, or do I just get the M-42 - K adapter ring for both ends? Walt You might be out of luck - I don't know of an adapter to fit a K-mount lens onto a screw-mount body (or bellows). The M-42 - K adapter ring will let you mount a screw-mount lens (or bellows) on a K-mount body, but the only lenses you will be able to use are screw-mount lenses. Somewhere around here, I have a K to M42 adaptor. It is a short extension tube with a screw mount at the back end, and a K-mount at the front. It's probably a Spiratone part. Porter's might have something similar. If nothing else, the Takumar 100mm bellows lens is very nice indeed. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
- Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: American Experience - PBS What strikes me as most odd about the American system is the extreme focus on the single persons running for office. Not really the media pressure itself, but I get the feeling that the candidates have to play up to people's expectations in that respect. I accept that being non-american is probably the reason why I find this a bit alienating... :-) The Canadian system shares this similarity. While we vote for a local representative, the reality is that we are voting for a particular party, it's leader, and all the baggage they can carry. At the moment, we are governed by Adolf Harper. I am certain that he will be setting up work camps any day now. I used to think I hated them all equally, but now I am finding that some of them are more equal than others in this department. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I just caught the broadcast of Grand Central and the prior episode on building the subways of New York. Very well done, both of them, although neither quite at the same level as the awesome 8 part series on the history of New York City done in the late 1990s by PBS. If you have not seen that, it is well worth renting ... The photographs of Grand Central Terminal are delightful. That's one of my favorite places to visit and shoot, has been since 1968. It's great to know more about the history of GCT as well. I first saw Grand Central Station when I was 6 years old on my first day in the United States! We arrived by ship(!) and took the train from NYC to Detroit. Pretty intimidating place for a little kid. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Bellows
Walter Hamler wrote: I just bought a Pentax Bellows from an internet telescope source. The pic tells that it is a screw mount version. Are there special adapters available to convert these to K-mount, or do I just get the M-42 - K adapter ring for both ends? Get a standard M42-K adapter to mount the bellows on the camera. Then get an M42 *reversing ring* to mount lenses on the bellows :) I did this recently with a cheap third-party M42 bellows. Works great: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=16 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: American Experience - PBS
At 09:19 AM 7/02/2008, Mark Roberts wrote: I first saw Grand Central Station when I was 6 years old on my first day in the United States! We arrived by ship(!) Did it have oars or sails? Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Tower and Crane.
On 2/6/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 3, 2008 1:43 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Night shot in downtown Toronto http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/2237971823/ Larger/direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/2237971823_646395de42_b.jpg K10D, Sigma 17-70. For some reason, it just doesn't quite all come together for me. It's an almost, but not quite thing. The wall and the cars in the foreground distract too much from the real subjects, the crane and the CN Tower. cheers, frank Interesting take on it. The 'Real Subject' in this case was actually the sky. Sky textures, particularly around dusk, fascinate me. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.