RE: Small photo editing program for Mac

2008-02-19 Thread Paul Ewins
Looks like it will be Elements 6 then. Thanks for the suggestions folks.

Paul

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Good call, Paul.
Elements 5 would give you more than you have indicated. Elements 6 has
an updated slicker look, but is slanted somewhat toward one shooting
groups of people.

Jack
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 PhotoShop Elements of course. Very good. Smaller than PhotoShop but  
 with most of its features.
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Re: PESO: Gone Digital

2008-02-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
A cute portrait. Congratulations.
On Feb 19, 2008, at 12:50 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 i05p28o#5165142210656565314


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Re: More Leibovitz

2008-02-19 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/02/18 Mon PM 10:31:06 GMT
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 Subject: More Leibovitz
 
 A trailer on The First Post for a film about La Leibovitz:
 http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?filmID=935
 
 Looks quite interesting.

Bob, why do you do this to yourself?  More importantly, why do you do it to us?

8-)

BTW, Firstpost locked my browser up completely.  I tried to close the window 
but it would not, I could not do anything in any other window and I had to shut 
the app down in task list.  Might be a foible of the system here, might not.


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Re: Adaptall lenses

2008-02-19 Thread Timber
I know that :D but that's just way too long to type :D But next time I 
type FOV 36mm on digital :D
.timber

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 What bugs Bill is when someone says that a 24mm lens is 36mm on  
 digital. Because it is not. It's still a 24 mm lens. It merely has  
 the same field of view that a 36mm lens would have with film or  
 sensor the size of what we were accustomed to. 24mm is 24mm. Always,  
 regardless of the format.
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Re: Adaptall lenses

2008-02-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
Actually, you can say it any way you want:-). Everyone knows what you  
mean. It's just a running gag here.
Paul
On Feb 19, 2008, at 6:44 AM, Timber wrote:

 I know that :D but that's just way too long to type :D But next time I
 type FOV 36mm on digital :D
 .timber

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 What bugs Bill is when someone says that a 24mm lens is 36mm on
 digital. Because it is not. It's still a 24 mm lens. It merely has
 the same field of view that a 36mm lens would have with film or
 sensor the size of what we were accustomed to. 24mm is 24mm. Always,
 regardless of the format.
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PESO: The Perfect Man

2008-02-19 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

I took this one at a tyre inflating stop a couple of weeks ago. It's
sort of a sign photo (~175kb):

warning
If you are easily offended by crude, obscene  tasteless adult humour,
do NOT click on the following link.
/warning

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1631.jpg

K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f8, ISO 100.

Enjoy,

Cheers,

Dave :-)

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Re: Something You've Never Seen

2008-02-19 Thread David J Brooks
Crap colour, but a great looking car.

Is that the old style hi beam kicker switch on the floor i see.??

Dave

On Feb 18, 2008 10:38 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A 1954 Kaiser Darrin sports car. I photographed it at the Dream
 Cruise in 2004 against a cluttered background. No choice. That's
 where it was parked, and the owner was nowhere to be found. I finally
 got around to cleaning the pics up a bit today. Only 435 of these
 cars were built. I believe only two or three still exist. It was the
 first fiberglass car ever made. The doors are pocket doors -- they
 slide into the front fenders. The design was created by a fellow
 named Darrin (last name), who lived in Santa Monica. Unfortunately,
 it's flathead 2.4 liter engine generated a mere 90 horsepower. It was
 no match for the 55 Corvettes, which premiered with around 200
 horsepower. But it was a very pretty car. This one,which is
 completely original and beautifully restored,  was parked on Woodward.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6966971size=lg
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6966978
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6966938

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Re: Photoshop Elements 5.0 problems

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine,
I tried the help search, but will look again.
Tahnks,  Bob S.

On Feb 18, 2008 8:04 PM, Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bob:  In PSE 5 Help there's an index item called About Stacks.  Did you
 read that?  It has a Working with Stacks tip list.  I'm not really expert
 enough to give you advice that comes from knowledge or experience, but I
 wonder if you might find an answer there.  You probably already read that,
 but in the off chance you didn't . . . . .
 Sorry I can't be more help.
 Cheers, Christine



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  I've got some 4,100 files and 46 GB in my catalogue with PS Elements 5.0.
  After I put the last batch of pictures in, something has gone wrong.
 
  I put 3x-2GB SD cards from a recent trip into the catalogue - all DNG
  files from the K10D.
  Now when I modify the DNG's and create jpegs, it doesn't save the
  pictures in stacks.
  Although the Save As shows the 'save in a version set with the
  original' checked, it doesn't.
  In fact, I have to go get the files manually and import them individually!
 
  Have I overloaded the capacity of this software or what?
  Any PS Elements 5.0 users seen this type of behavior and know how to
  correct it?
 
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
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Re: PESO: The Perfect Man

2008-02-19 Thread David J Brooks
Lets me out

Dave

On Feb 19, 2008 7:16 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 I took this one at a tyre inflating stop a couple of weeks ago. It's
 sort of a sign photo (~175kb):

 warning
 If you are easily offended by crude, obscene  tasteless adult humour,
 do NOT click on the following link.
 /warning

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1631.jpg

 K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f8, ISO 100.

 Enjoy,

 Cheers,

 Dave :-)

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Drive by drive in Part II

2008-02-19 Thread David J Brooks
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6968062

Adjusted the WP as per Ken's suggestion.

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Re: Published!

2008-02-19 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/02/18 Mon PM 08:26:42 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Published!
 
 On 18/02/08, Anthony Farr, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Forming good professional habits is all about doing stuff automatically.
 It's quicker and simpler to follow a single overall rule, even if it's
 sometimes unnecessary, than it is to rationalise individual situations.  If
 you let yourself be sloppy when it doesn't really matter, then you are
 likely to get sloppy when it does matter, like when you're toting personal
 gear with a wide angle lens up front.  And nobody who's ever turned in
 damaged gear believes the boss doesn't care.  BTDT.
 
 My own experience is that when it belongs to  large company, I look
 after it - but only to a point. After that, I might get a new one, so no
 sweat.
 
 When it belongs to me, I look after it with my life.

Personally, I look after others' property better than my own.  Or I at least 
try to.  But I do know many that like their own spurs and a borrowed horse.


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Re: PESO: Gone Digital

2008-02-19 Thread David J Brooks
Good one for the family album

Dave

On Feb 18, 2008 7:42 PM, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of my first successful digital photos.  Or at least, I like it. ;)

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5165142210656565314

 Thanks for taking the time to look!


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PESO: Jess Green

2008-02-19 Thread Derby Chang

Wasn't in the best of positions tonight, and it was a sit-down crowd so 
I couldn't to move around. Fun jazz to listen to, however

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_02/08_02_jessgreen/01.htm

77mm Ltd, really heavily cropped.

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PESO - The Explanation

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
Recently spotted at a local bar:

http://tinyurl.com/28ok23

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rcEEgqfwI/Bds/oWF2ijWDTj0/s1600-h/feb_19_02+001.jpg

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Re: Adaptall lenses

2008-02-19 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/02/18 Mon PM 08:28:52 GMT
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 Subject: Adaptall lenses
 
 Hi list!
 
 I would like to ask about the Tamron Adaptall lenses. If anyone has 
 experience with them I would be interested to hear. Especially which 
 lens to buy :D

I have the 300/2.8, 500/8, 70-210/3.8-4, 90/2.5macro.  All excellent lenses, 
capable of producing superb work.

Colour rendition may be more variable across the range than from other 
manufacturers but I have not found one that is objectionable.  All of my lenses 
are very robust.  My 500/8 once went swimming and came up looking like a half 
full bucket of water.  I was able to dismantle it on a kitchen table in a dacha 
for cleaning and drying.  Reassembled at home, it is fine.

The adapters.  Standard K adapter is fine.  The KA adapter has a spotty 
quality record.  One of mine regularly comes undone, despite no apparent fault. 
 Beware of secondhand ones.


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Re: Your Great Photographic Moments?

2008-02-19 Thread mike wilson
He's lying.  He's only 7ft.  In the red stilletos.
 
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 You'd need texture for skiing, sliding is a better description.   :-P
 
 Cotty wrote:
  On 18/02/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

  Of course your response qualifies!  And BTW, just how tall is Cotty? 
  
 
  People go skiing on my head.
 

 
 
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Re: PESO: Gone Digital

2008-02-19 Thread Jack Davis
Charming!

Jack
--- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 18, 2008 7:42 PM, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  One of my first successful digital photos.  Or at least, I like it.
 ;)
 
 

http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5165142210656565314
 
  Thanks for taking the time to look!
 
 The softness really works well here!
 
 Terrific portrait and a great keepsake.
 
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Re: PESO: Gone Digital

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 18, 2008 7:42 PM, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of my first successful digital photos.  Or at least, I like it. ;)

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5165142210656565314

 Thanks for taking the time to look!

The softness really works well here!

Terrific portrait and a great keepsake.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - The Explanation

2008-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 19, 2008, at 5:45 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 Recently spotted at a local bar:

 http://tinyurl.com/28ok23

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rcEEgqfwI/Bds/ 
 oWF2ijWDTj0/s1600-h/feb_19_02+001.jpg

I like it Frank. I wish there was just a little bit more vertical room.

Godfrey

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Re: PESO: Jess Green

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 19, 2008 8:31 AM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wasn't in the best of positions tonight, and it was a sit-down crowd so
 I couldn't to move around. Fun jazz to listen to, however

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_02/08_02_jessgreen/01.htm

 77mm Ltd, really heavily cropped.

Lovely photo!  Interesting light/shadowplay on her face.

cheers,
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Henrys taking lens orders

2008-02-19 Thread David J Brooks
Could be old news. They are taking pre orders now.

DA 200$1199
DA 55-300  $449
DA 300$1399
DA 35 Macro  $449

Dave


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Re: Something You've Never Seen

2008-02-19 Thread pnstenquist
Yes, I'm sure it had the high beam switch on the floor. 
I don't mind the color. It's typical of the mid fifties when pastels were big. 
It's a period thing.
Paul
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From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Crap colour, but a great looking car.
 
 Is that the old style hi beam kicker switch on the floor i see.??
 
 Dave
 
 On Feb 18, 2008 10:38 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A 1954 Kaiser Darrin sports car. I photographed it at the Dream
  Cruise in 2004 against a cluttered background. No choice. That's
  where it was parked, and the owner was nowhere to be found. I finally
  got around to cleaning the pics up a bit today. Only 435 of these
  cars were built. I believe only two or three still exist. It was the
  first fiberglass car ever made. The doors are pocket doors -- they
  slide into the front fenders. The design was created by a fellow
  named Darrin (last name), who lived in Santa Monica. Unfortunately,
  it's flathead 2.4 liter engine generated a mere 90 horsepower. It was
  no match for the 55 Corvettes, which premiered with around 200
  horsepower. But it was a very pretty car. This one,which is
  completely original and beautifully restored,  was parked on Woodward.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6966971size=lg
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6966978
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6966938
 
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PESO - Witchcraft

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
Sandy owns a bar called Reposados.  Sandy loves jazz, and each
Thursday and Friday night my buddy Tim the Trumpeter plays there with
a fun, djangoesque combo with two guitars, bass and himself.  Later in
the night, usually for the second and/or third set, Sandy sits in on
vocals.

Here he is, giving a rendition of the jazz standard Witchcraft.
Full frame, handheld:

http://tinyurl.com/2k2s43

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rfgkgqf-I/Bfc/FrvvvI7FRKQ/s1600-h/feb_19_02+008.jpg

I took a bunch more of Sandy and the band that I may show in a GESO,
but when I got to the office and looked at them on my work computer,
they looked really muddy, so I'll rework them and maybe show them
later.  Until then, I'm fairly satisfied with this one.

Comments always welcome.

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Re: Drive by drive in Part II

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 19, 2008 8:12 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6968062

 Adjusted the WP as per Ken's suggestion.


I haven't seen the original yet, and I don't know what WP is, but
this is a pretty cool photo.  Lots of white on white, but it works.

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Re: PESO 2008 - 07 - GDG

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 18, 2008 3:00 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Back to this year's monochrome obsession, from yesterday's street
 shooting session in SF ...

 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/07-reading.jpg
 Reading - This Cafe Life 2008
 Olympus E-1 + ZD 11-22/2.8-3.5
 ISO 200 @ f/5.6 @ 1/250 sec, fl=18mm

 Comments and critique always appreciated.

I've taken more photos through glass looking into cafes than I'd care
to count.  They all seem to fail dismally - usually due to horrible
reflections from the window(s).

Your works very well.  Makes me most envious!

;-)

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Re: Drive by drive in Part II

2008-02-19 Thread pnstenquist
Better. You could achieve even more if you had isolated the building from the 
snow. You have whites here with radically different luminance levels. That's 
always difficult to work with and usually requires masks or selections to avoid 
burnout on the one hand and gray gloom on the other. But it's a nice pic as 
presented.
Paul
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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6968062
 
 Adjusted the WP as per Ken's suggestion.
 
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Re: PESO: The Perfect Man

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 19, 2008 7:16 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 I took this one at a tyre inflating stop a couple of weeks ago. It's
 sort of a sign photo (~175kb):

 warning
 If you are easily offended by crude, obscene  tasteless adult humour,
 do NOT click on the following link.
 /warning

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1631.jpg

 K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f8, ISO 100.


LOL!!

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Re: PESO: Jess Green

2008-02-19 Thread Adam Maas
Simply lovely. An almost ethereal capture.

-Adam

On 2/19/08, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wasn't in the best of positions tonight, and it was a sit-down crowd so
 I couldn't to move around. Fun jazz to listen to, however

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_02/08_02_jessgreen/01.htm

 77mm Ltd, really heavily cropped.

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Re: PESO - Amgen Tour of California

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 18, 2008 12:13 AM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Amgen Tour of California started today.
 Here's my last shot of the day (isn't that always the way):

They obviously start with a time trial prologue (like pretty much
every stage race I know of).

You absolutely nailed this one!  Great shot!!!

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Re: PESO - Witchcraft

2008-02-19 Thread Ken Waller
Well captured, but the spotlight is distracting to me.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - Witchcraft


 Sandy owns a bar called Reposados.  Sandy loves jazz, and each
 Thursday and Friday night my buddy Tim the Trumpeter plays there with
 a fun, djangoesque combo with two guitars, bass and himself.  Later in
 the night, usually for the second and/or third set, Sandy sits in on
 vocals.

 Here he is, giving a rendition of the jazz standard Witchcraft.
 Full frame, handheld:

 http://tinyurl.com/2k2s43

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rfgkgqf-I/Bfc/FrvvvI7FRKQ/s1600-h/feb_19_02+008.jpg

 I took a bunch more of Sandy and the band that I may show in a GESO,
 but when I got to the office and looked at them on my work computer,
 they looked really muddy, so I'll rework them and maybe show them
 later.  Until then, I'm fairly satisfied with this one.

 Comments always welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: PESO - The Explanation

2008-02-19 Thread pnstenquist
I like it. Nice subtle light, and it communicates well. A good story pic.
Paul
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 Recently spotted at a local bar:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/28ok23
 
 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rcEEgqfwI/Bds/oWF2ijWDTj0/s1600-h/
 feb_19_02+001.jpg
 
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Re: PESO - The Explanation

2008-02-19 Thread David J Brooks
Good capture of the listener

Good conversion.

What lens

Dave

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 Recently spotted at a local bar:

 http://tinyurl.com/28ok23

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rcEEgqfwI/Bds/oWF2ijWDTj0/s1600-h/feb_19_02+001.jpg

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Re: Something You've Never Seen

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 18, 2008 10:38 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A 1954 Kaiser Darrin sports car. I photographed it at the Dream
 Cruise in 2004 against a cluttered background. No choice. That's
 where it was parked, and the owner was nowhere to be found. I finally
 got around to cleaning the pics up a bit today. Only 435 of these
 cars were built. I believe only two or three still exist. It was the
 first fiberglass car ever made. The doors are pocket doors -- they
 slide into the front fenders. The design was created by a fellow
 named Darrin (last name), who lived in Santa Monica. Unfortunately,
 it's flathead 2.4 liter engine generated a mere 90 horsepower. It was
 no match for the 55 Corvettes, which premiered with around 200
 horsepower. But it was a very pretty car. This one,which is
 completely original and beautifully restored,  was parked on Woodward.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6966971size=lg
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6966978
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6966938


It's amazing how many smaller manufactureres there were back in those
days.  I was raised in the world of the Big Three, but only a few
years before I was born there were Hudsons, Kaisers, Nashes, Lasalles
and others plying the roads of North America.

By the time I was a youngster, I guess maybe Rambler and Studebaker
were about the only two of these smaller manufacturers left (there was
Jeep, but they were pretty much a specialty manufacturer).

Anyway, that was a lovely car, well captured, Paul!  Thanks for sharing it...

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Re: PESO - Witchcraft

2008-02-19 Thread Bong Manayon
Great capture...I can *feel* the mood looking at it.

Bong

On Feb 19, 2008 10:51 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sandy owns a bar called Reposados.  Sandy loves jazz, and each
 Thursday and Friday night my buddy Tim the Trumpeter plays there with
 a fun, djangoesque combo with two guitars, bass and himself.  Later in
 the night, usually for the second and/or third set, Sandy sits in on
 vocals.

 Here he is, giving a rendition of the jazz standard Witchcraft.
 Full frame, handheld:

 http://tinyurl.com/2k2s43

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rfgkgqf-I/Bfc/FrvvvI7FRKQ/s1600-h/feb_19_02+008.jpg

 I took a bunch more of Sandy and the band that I may show in a GESO,
 but when I got to the office and looked at them on my work computer,
 they looked really muddy, so I'll rework them and maybe show them
 later.  Until then, I'm fairly satisfied with this one.

 Comments always welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: Adaptall lenses

2008-02-19 Thread Bong Manayon
I have the 35-135/3.4-4.2 BBAR--I love using it.  I basically got it
to make my odd cameras (a Canon AE-1P  a Minolta SRT-101) a bit more
useful; it would be a waste acquiring lenses unique to them (they do
have their respective 'normal' lenses).

Hope to get the 80-210 or maybe the 70-210 sometime...

On Feb 19, 2008 4:28 AM, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi list!

 I would like to ask about the Tamron Adaptall lenses. If anyone has
 experience with them I would be interested to hear. Especially which
 lens to buy :D

 I got an Adaptall 24 f2.5 today (the newer version) and I am really
 satisfied with it. It has very good contrast and sharpness and it's a
 joy to use it. On digital it's 36mm which is a good wide angle for me. I
 am also thinking about the SP500 f8 mirror lens and the SP300 f5.6. Also
 as I wrote earlier I am hunting the SP 70-150 f2.8 Soft one for
 portrait. But what other adaptall lenses worth to buy? Since my dad has
 Nikon (luckily the 24 f2.5 arrived with Nikon adapter) it would be a
 good solution to buy adaptall lenses so we can share those optics (and
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Re: Peso Hurley Inn

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 17, 2008 10:45 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Had to stop at Hurley Wis at Hwy's 2 and 51 as we are not allowed to
 run these towers into Wis during the day.

 Heavy snow all day on the Thursday drive from Rapid River Mich to Hurley.

 Rented rooms and had a few hours sleep for the midnight take off, Friday.

 Hear is a shot just out from the side door. It was snowing, blowing
 and cold. IMSMC it said -35 F.

 LR BW conversion and a pole cloned out

 http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/NTS%20PHOTOS/?action=viewcurrent=Hurley-3761.jpg


Motor inns are motor inns are motor inns...

The weather certainly adds to the bleakness of the shot - well captured, Dave!

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Re: PESO - Amgen Tour of California

2008-02-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Very nicely done!  I like it.

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Sunday, February 17, 2008, 9:13:37 PM, you wrote:


JF The Amgen Tour of California started today.
JF Here's my last shot of the day (isn't that always the way):

JF http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0808






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Re: PESO: Gone Digital

2008-02-19 Thread Bong Manayon
Nice. What camera did you use?

Bong

On Feb 19, 2008 8:42 AM, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of my first successful digital photos.  Or at least, I like it. ;)

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5165142210656565314

 Thanks for taking the time to look!


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Re: PESO - Witchcraft

2008-02-19 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2k2s43
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rfgkgqf-I/Bfc/FrvvvI7FRKQ/s1600-h/feb_19_02+008.jpg

Great shot! If it weren't for the modern (wireless) microphone it could 
pass for a really old jazz singer shot, if you know what I mean.

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Re: My café life

2008-02-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Bob,

I like the second one very much - great job on the lighting and mood.

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Sunday, February 17, 2008, 11:05:16 AM, you wrote:

BW I've enjoyed seeing the pictures people have been posting from their
BW cafés, so I thought I'd post a couple from the place where I had my
BW bacon butty today:

BW http://www.web-options.com/Cafe-1.jpg
BW http://www.web-options.com/Cafe-2.jpg

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Re: PESO: The Perfect Man

2008-02-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/08, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1631.jpg

K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f8, ISO 100.

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Re: PESO - Witchcraft

2008-02-19 Thread pnstenquist
Superb. Great  moment, nice rendering. Certainly among the very best of your 
club pics. Hell, it's one of the best I've seen here. Good work.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sandy owns a bar called Reposados.  Sandy loves jazz, and each
 Thursday and Friday night my buddy Tim the Trumpeter plays there with
 a fun, djangoesque combo with two guitars, bass and himself.  Later in
 the night, usually for the second and/or third set, Sandy sits in on
 vocals.
 
 Here he is, giving a rendition of the jazz standard Witchcraft.
 Full frame, handheld:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2k2s43
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rfgkgqf-I/Bfc/FrvvvI7FRKQ/s1600-h/
 feb_19_02+008.jpg
 
 I took a bunch more of Sandy and the band that I may show in a GESO,
 but when I got to the office and looked at them on my work computer,
 they looked really muddy, so I'll rework them and maybe show them
 later.  Until then, I'm fairly satisfied with this one.
 
 Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: PESO - Witchcraft

2008-02-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sandy owns a bar called Reposados.  Sandy loves jazz, and each
Thursday and Friday night my buddy Tim the Trumpeter plays there with
a fun, djangoesque combo with two guitars, bass and himself.  Later in
the night, usually for the second and/or third set, Sandy sits in on
vocals.

Here he is, giving a rendition of the jazz standard Witchcraft.
Full frame, handheld:

http://tinyurl.com/2k2s43

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rfgkgqf-I/Bfc/FrvvvI7FRKQ/
s1600-h/feb_19_02+008.jpg

Frank, that is an OUTSTANDING shot. You caught the mood perfectly and
the lighting is exquisite.

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Re: PESO - The Explanation

2008-02-19 Thread Jack Davis
This is an extraordinary shot. Clean, exceptionally well composed and
provocative.

Jack
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 On 19/2/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Recently spotted at a local bar:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/28ok23
 

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rcEEgqfwI/Bds/oWF2ijWDTj0/
 s1600-h/feb_19_02+001.jpg
 
 Comments always welcome!
 
 Excellent. One of the most phallic images I've seen for a while.
 
 
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Re: PESO - Witchcraft

2008-02-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
My feeling as well.  I would be very tempted to clone that out.

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008, 7:59:58 AM, you wrote:

KW Well captured, but the spotlight is distracting to me.

KW Kenneth Waller
KW http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

KW - Original Message - 
KW From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KW Subject: PESO - Witchcraft


 Sandy owns a bar called Reposados.  Sandy loves jazz, and each
 Thursday and Friday night my buddy Tim the Trumpeter plays there with
 a fun, djangoesque combo with two guitars, bass and himself.  Later in
 the night, usually for the second and/or third set, Sandy sits in on
 vocals.

 Here he is, giving a rendition of the jazz standard Witchcraft.
 Full frame, handheld:

 http://tinyurl.com/2k2s43

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rfgkgqf-I/Bfc/FrvvvI7FRKQ/s1600-h/feb_19_02+008.jpg

 I took a bunch more of Sandy and the band that I may show in a GESO,
 but when I got to the office and looked at them on my work computer,
 they looked really muddy, so I'll rework them and maybe show them
 later.  Until then, I'm fairly satisfied with this one.

 Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO - Witchcraft

2008-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 19, 2008, at 6:51 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/2k2s43

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rfgkgqf-I/Bfc/ 
 FrvvvI7FRKQ/s1600-h/feb_19_02+008.jpg

Nice work!

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Re: My café life

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 17, 2008 2:05 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've enjoyed seeing the pictures people have been posting from their
 cafés, so I thought I'd post a couple from the place where I had my
 bacon butty today:

 http://www.web-options.com/Cafe-1.jpg
 http://www.web-options.com/Cafe-2.jpg

Do they serve espresso?

cheers,
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Re: PESO - The Explanation

2008-02-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Recently spotted at a local bar:

http://tinyurl.com/28ok23

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rcEEgqfwI/Bds/oWF2ijWDTj0/
s1600-h/feb_19_02+001.jpg

Comments always welcome!

Excellent. One of the most phallic images I've seen for a while.


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Re: PESO: The Perfect Man

2008-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 19, 2008, at 4:16 AM, David Savage wrote:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1631.jpg

 K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f8, ISO 100.

That's quite a manifesto...

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Re: Adaptall lenses

2008-02-19 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:30:40 +0100 schreef mike wilson  
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 The adapters.  Standard K adapter is fine.  The KA adapter has a  
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Re: PESO 2008 - 07 - GDG

2008-02-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 19, 2008, at 0:04, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Rather than trying to explain the photo, I think HansAlbert on the
 DPReview Leica Talk forum did an excellent job of interpreting its
 expression:


Thanks for that, Godfrey.  I guess I sort of saw what there was to  
see in that photo, and it just didn't click for me.

It's the damndest thing - although I see your reply to my post, I  
never saw that post hit the list (and I'm pretty sure it was a public  
post).

  -Charles

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Re: PESO - The Explanation

2008-02-19 Thread Derby Chang
frank theriault wrote:
 Recently spotted at a local bar:

 http://tinyurl.com/28ok23

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rcEEgqfwI/Bds/oWF2ijWDTj0/s1600-h/feb_19_02+001.jpg

 Comments always welcome!

 thanks,
 frank


   

Really cinematic. Beautiful. The listener is drinking straight vodka?

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RE: My café life

2008-02-19 Thread Bob W
 
 Do they serve espresso?
 

of course. Their coffee is all very good. 

Bob

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 On Feb 17, 2008 2:05 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've enjoyed seeing the pictures people have been posting from
their
  cafés, so I thought I'd post a couple from the place where I had
my
  bacon butty today:
 
  http://www.web-options.com/Cafe-1.jpg
  http://www.web-options.com/Cafe-2.jpg
 
 Do they serve espresso?
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 
 ps:  cool shots, especially the interior!
 


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PESO or waste?

2008-02-19 Thread Igor Roshchin

Hello!

I cannot decide if this photo is worth posting here...
I have mixed feelings. First, I was ready to through this away,
but something keeps taking me back to look at this photo.

It was a quick single opportunity shot, and the highlights were overblown
because I forgot to set flash compensation, and *istDS + AF-500 FTZ
tends to do this at a close range.
On another hand, - sometimes I think that these highlights create a bit
posterized (as in poster-like) look.

http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0848-2.jpg

What do you think?
Don't be afraid to be brutal on this.
:-)

Igor



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Re: PESO: The Perfect Man

2008-02-19 Thread Derby Chang
David Savage wrote:
 G'day All,

 I took this one at a tyre inflating stop a couple of weeks ago. It's
 sort of a sign photo (~175kb):

 warning
 If you are easily offended by crude, obscene  tasteless adult humour,
 do NOT click on the following link.
 /warning

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1631.jpg

 K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f8, ISO 100.

 Enjoy,

 Cheers,

 Dave :-)

   


She's in the van alone. And she looks like she's on the phone.

Snappy shot.

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Re: PESO circa 1938

2008-02-19 Thread Igor Roshchin

Peter and Christine, - thanks for your comments.


P. J. Alling wrote:
 However unfortunately they're just not that interesting in and of 
 themselves.

I was thinking if any of these pictures stands by itself, and 
couldn't decide positively.. It is more of an illustration...
or possibly a part of a series.

Igor

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RE: PESO - The Explanation

2008-02-19 Thread Bob W
Can't imagine why, put it made me think of these two:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok_42shL_5Efeature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oESKBArw1CA

Bob 

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 Recently spotted at a local bar:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/28ok23
 
 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rcEEgqfwI/Bds/oW
 F2ijWDTj0/s1600-h/feb_19_02+001.jpg
 
 Comments always welcome!
 
 thanks,
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Re: PESO - Witchcraft

2008-02-19 Thread Derby Chang
frank theriault wrote:
 Sandy owns a bar called Reposados.  Sandy loves jazz, and each
 Thursday and Friday night my buddy Tim the Trumpeter plays there with
 a fun, djangoesque combo with two guitars, bass and himself.  Later in
 the night, usually for the second and/or third set, Sandy sits in on
 vocals.

 Here he is, giving a rendition of the jazz standard Witchcraft.
 Full frame, handheld:

 http://tinyurl.com/2k2s43

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rfgkgqf-I/Bfc/FrvvvI7FRKQ/s1600-h/feb_19_02+008.jpg

 I took a bunch more of Sandy and the band that I may show in a GESO,
 but when I got to the office and looked at them on my work computer,
 they looked really muddy, so I'll rework them and maybe show them
 later.  Until then, I'm fairly satisfied with this one.

 Comments always welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

   

Excellent low light work, Frank. His skin is very crisp.

And his Sinatra hat is very dapper.

D

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RE: PESO - Witchcraft

2008-02-19 Thread Bob W
Very atmospheric. Great texture.

Bob 

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 Subject: PESO - Witchcraft
 
 Sandy owns a bar called Reposados.  Sandy loves jazz, and each
 Thursday and Friday night my buddy Tim the Trumpeter plays there
with
 a fun, djangoesque combo with two guitars, bass and himself.  Later
in
 the night, usually for the second and/or third set, Sandy sits in on
 vocals.
 
 Here he is, giving a rendition of the jazz standard Witchcraft.
 Full frame, handheld:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2k2s43
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rfgkgqf-I/Bfc/Fr
 vvvI7FRKQ/s1600-h/feb_19_02+008.jpg
 
 I took a bunch more of Sandy and the band that I may show in a GESO,
 but when I got to the office and looked at them on my work computer,
 they looked really muddy, so I'll rework them and maybe show them
 later.  Until then, I'm fairly satisfied with this one.
 
 Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank


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Re: More Leibovitz

2008-02-19 Thread Derby Chang
Bob W wrote:
 A trailer on The First Post for a film about La Leibovitz:
 http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?filmID=935

 Looks quite interesting.

 Bob


   
And a review of the doco here (in the 2nd half of the article)

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article3365432.ece

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Re: More Leibovitz

2008-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 18, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Bob W wrote:

 A trailer on The First Post for a film about La Leibovitz:
 http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?filmID=935

 Looks quite interesting.

I agree. I look forward to seeing the film. thanks

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Re: PESO - The Explanation

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 19, 2008 2:48 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Really cinematic. Beautiful. The listener is drinking straight vodka?

I didn't ask her what she was drinking, but it was at a Reposado's, a
tequila bar, so that would be my first guess.

Thanks for your kind words, and thanks to everyone else who commented as well.

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Re: PESO circa 1938

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 18, 2008 3:52 PM, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hello!

 Here is yet another attempt to catch the athmosphere of 1930-40s.
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0799.jpg
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0800.jpg

 These photos were taken at Cicada Club in Los Angeles
 ( http://www.clubcicada.com/ ).
 That night a big band, Dean Mora and His Orchestra
 ( http://morasmodern.com/BANDS.asp ), was playing the music from
 that era, and people, dressed accordingly, were dancing.

 As always, all brutal comments and suggestions are welcome.

Very few if any visual cues (with the possible exception of haircuts)
that this isn't from a bygone era.

I like the horizontal one best.

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Re: PESO or waste?

2008-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 19, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0848-2.jpg

 What do you think?

Glarey, harsh, intense;
It talks of another time.
Bistros and bimbos,
drinks and flappers.
A dark and glittery,
boisterous world,
gone awry but so inviting.

keeper.

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RE: More Leibovitz

2008-02-19 Thread Bob W
 Bob, why do you do this to yourself?  

Works for me.

 More importantly, why 
 do you do it to us?

Because I'm a bastard.

Bob

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  Date: 2008/02/18 Mon PM 10:31:06 GMT
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  Subject: More Leibovitz
  
  A trailer on The First Post for a film about La Leibovitz:
  http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?filmID=935
  
  Looks quite interesting.
 
 Bob, why do you do this to yourself?  More importantly, why 
 do you do it to us?
 
 8-)
 
 BTW, Firstpost locked my browser up completely.  I tried to 
 close the window but it would not, I could not do anything in 
 any other window and I had to shut the app down in task list. 
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RE: PESO: The Perfect Man

2008-02-19 Thread Bob W
 I took this one at a tyre inflating stop a couple of weeks ago. It's

was she pumping up her lips?

Bob (A Perfect 10!)

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 Subject: PESO: The Perfect Man
 
 G'day All,
 
 I took this one at a tyre inflating stop a couple of weeks ago. It's
 sort of a sign photo (~175kb):
 
 warning
 If you are easily offended by crude, obscene  tasteless adult
humour,
 do NOT click on the following link.
 /warning
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1631.jpg
 
 K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f8, ISO 100.
 
 Enjoy,
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: PESO or waste?

2008-02-19 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:58:47 -0500 (EST)
Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello!
 
 I cannot decide if this photo is worth posting here...
 I have mixed feelings. First, I was ready to through this away,
 but something keeps taking me back to look at this photo.
 
 It was a quick single opportunity shot, and the highlights were
 overblown because I forgot to set flash compensation, and *istDS +
 AF-500 FTZ tends to do this at a close range.
 On another hand, - sometimes I think that these highlights create a
 bit posterized (as in poster-like) look.
 
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0848-2.jpg


I like it but even if no one did it would be worth posting.  balancing
critique against ones own opinion of a shot is always a worth while
effort.

drat just blew any excuses for not showing my stuff here

Bran

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Re: PESO or waste?

2008-02-19 Thread Carlos Royo
Igor Roshchin escribió:
 Hello!
 
 I cannot decide if this photo is worth posting here...
 I have mixed feelings. First, I was ready to through this away,
 but something keeps taking me back to look at this photo.
 
 It was a quick single opportunity shot, and the highlights were overblown
 because I forgot to set flash compensation, and *istDS + AF-500 FTZ
 tends to do this at a close range.
 On another hand, - sometimes I think that these highlights create a bit
 posterized (as in poster-like) look.
 
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0848-2.jpg
 

As you say, the flash has burnt the foreground, but in my view that 
doesn't matter. The timing is excellent and the couple in the background 
add a classic photograph air that I like a lot.
To sum it up, I like it a lot, Igor.

Carlos

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PESO 2008 - 08 - GDG

2008-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Color ...

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/08-oranges.jpg
Oranges - Mission District, SF 2008
Olympus E-1 + ZD 11-22/2.8-3.5
ISO 200 @ f/6.3 @ 1/40 sec, fl=22mm

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey

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Re: PESO - The Explanation

2008-02-19 Thread Derby Chang
hahahaI was one of the beautiful people

D


Bob W wrote:
 Can't imagine why, put it made me think of these two:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok_42shL_5Efeature=related

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oESKBArw1CA

 Bob 

   
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 Subject: PESO - The Explanation

 Recently spotted at a local bar:

 http://tinyurl.com/28ok23

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rcEEgqfwI/Bds/oW
 F2ijWDTj0/s1600-h/feb_19_02+001.jpg

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RE: More Leibovitz

2008-02-19 Thread Bob W
  A trailer on The First Post for a film about La Leibovitz:
  http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?filmID=935
 
  Looks quite interesting.
 
  Bob
 
 

 And a review of the doco here (in the 2nd half of the article)
 
 http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainm
 ent/visual_arts/article3365432.ece
 

That is a review and a half - thanks. I always enjoy watching Waldemar
Januszczak on the TV (he does Capital A Art programmes), but he really
takes an axe to that show (and the doco).

I might say I was rather shocked to read this
 I doubt Leibovitz or Johansson are aware that O'Murphy was 14 when
Boucher painted her, and that their recreation celebrates an act of
rococo paedophilia. 

I wasn't aware of that, and I've always considered the picture to be
particularly, er, worthy of study.

Here it is for the curious:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fran%C3%A7ois_Boucher_026.jpg

Bob


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RE: PESO or waste?

2008-02-19 Thread Bob W
I think it's a fun picture, worth showing.

Bob 

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 Subject: PESO or waste?
 
 
 Hello!
 
 I cannot decide if this photo is worth posting here...
 I have mixed feelings. First, I was ready to through this away,
 but something keeps taking me back to look at this photo.
 
 It was a quick single opportunity shot, and the highlights 
 were overblown
 because I forgot to set flash compensation, and *istDS + AF-500 FTZ
 tends to do this at a close range.
 On another hand, - sometimes I think that these highlights 
 create a bit
 posterized (as in poster-like) look.
 
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0848-2.jpg
 
 What do you think?
 Don't be afraid to be brutal on this.
 :-)
 
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Re: Adaptall lenses

2008-02-19 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Lucas Rijnders
Subject: Re: Adaptall lenses


 Op Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:30:40 +0100 schreef mike wilson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The adapters.  Standard K adapter is fine.  The KA adapter has a
 spotty quality record.  One of mine regularly comes undone, despite no
 apparent fault.  Beware of secondhand ones.

 For what it's worth: my (secondhand) PK/A adapter is fine in this regard.
 Attaching to and detaching from the lens is very hard. As I only have one
 adaptall lens, that's hardly a big issue...

I had an A series adaptor that was consistently flakey. There is a little 
switch in the adaptor 
that went buggy on me.

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It was 45 years ago today...

2008-02-19 Thread Bob W
Yea, yea, yea...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7252833.stm

Bob


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Re: PESO or waste?

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 19, 2008 2:58 PM, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello!

 I cannot decide if this photo is worth posting here...
 I have mixed feelings. First, I was ready to through this away,
 but something keeps taking me back to look at this photo.

 It was a quick single opportunity shot, and the highlights were overblown
 because I forgot to set flash compensation, and *istDS + AF-500 FTZ
 tends to do this at a close range.
 On another hand, - sometimes I think that these highlights create a bit
 posterized (as in poster-like) look.

 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0848-2.jpg

 What do you think?
 Don't be afraid to be brutal on this.
 :-)


Keep!!

Everything that's a technical defect gives it that vintage look.

Great shot!

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Re: PESO or waste?

2008-02-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Could be Marylin M. except for the matron with the tatoo in the background.
Worth taking the photo, if only for practice and next time...
Regards,  Bob S.

On 2/19/08, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello!

 I cannot decide if this photo is worth posting here...
 I have mixed feelings. First, I was ready to through this away,
 but something keeps taking me back to look at this photo.

 It was a quick single opportunity shot, and the highlights were overblown
 because I forgot to set flash compensation, and *istDS + AF-500 FTZ
 tends to do this at a close range.
 On another hand, - sometimes I think that these highlights create a bit
 posterized (as in poster-like) look.

 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0848-2.jpg

 What do you think?
 Don't be afraid to be brutal on this.
 :-)

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Re: Henrys taking lens orders

2008-02-19 Thread Igor Roshchin

FWIW, Amazon accepts preorders for the 55-300 $399.95 (US)

Igor


Tue Feb 19 09:06:54 EST 2008
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 Could be old news. They are taking pre orders now.
 
 DA 200$1199
 DA 55-300  $449
 DA 300$1399
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Re: Drive by drive in Part II

2008-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Looks much more neutral now...

David J Brooks wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6968062

 Adjusted the WP as per Ken's suggestion.

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Re: PESO - The Explanation

2008-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Nice conversion Frank.  You're getting good at that.  The Framing could 
be better I think you need a little more space around the action.  
(though it would be better if there was less space between the 
participants.  Next time have them move to a narrower table...

frank theriault wrote:
 Recently spotted at a local bar:

 http://tinyurl.com/28ok23

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rcEEgqfwI/Bds/oWF2ijWDTj0/s1600-h/feb_19_02+001.jpg

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Re: Drive by drive in Part II

2008-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
White Point.  Color balance, (you of course see the world in BW so it's 
not important).

frank diphtherias wrote:
 On Feb 19, 2008 8:12 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6968062

 Adjusted the WP as per Ken's suggestion.

 

 I haven't seen the original yet, and I don't know what WP is, but
 this is a pretty cool photo.  Lots of white on white, but it works.

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Re: PESO or waste?

2008-02-19 Thread Igor Roshchin


Wow!
That reads like a poem!

This is a new trend on PDML. 
First, it was personalized PESOs.
Now, - it is writing poems in response to PESOs...

Thanks, Godfrey! :)

Igor

Tue Feb 19 15:07:15 EST 2008
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Feb 19, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
  http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0848-2.jpg
 
  What do you think?
 
 Glarey, harsh, intense;
 It talks of another time.
 Bistros and bimbos,
 drinks and flappers.
 A dark and glittery,
 boisterous world,
 gone awry but so inviting.
 
 keeper.
 
 G


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Re: PESO - Witchcraft

2008-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
That would make a nice album cover.

frank theriault wrote:
 Sandy owns a bar called Reposados.  Sandy loves jazz, and each
 Thursday and Friday night my buddy Tim the Trumpeter plays there with
 a fun, djangoesque combo with two guitars, bass and himself.  Later in
 the night, usually for the second and/or third set, Sandy sits in on
 vocals.

 Here he is, giving a rendition of the jazz standard Witchcraft.
 Full frame, handheld:

 http://tinyurl.com/2k2s43

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R7rfgkgqf-I/Bfc/FrvvvI7FRKQ/s1600-h/feb_19_02+008.jpg

 I took a bunch more of Sandy and the band that I may show in a GESO,
 but when I got to the office and looked at them on my work computer,
 they looked really muddy, so I'll rework them and maybe show them
 later.  Until then, I'm fairly satisfied with this one.

 Comments always welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: Drive by drive in Part II

2008-02-19 Thread pnstenquist

 -- Original message --
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 White Point.  Color balance, (you of course see the world in BW so it's 
 not important).

No, you're thinking of white balance. White Point refers to the chromaticity 
coordinates that determine the value of white. In other words, how much gray is 
present in your whitest white. 
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Re: Henrys taking lens orders

2008-02-19 Thread Steve Sharpe
In my experience, Henrys tends to be overpriced, except when they have sales.

At 4:26 PM -0500 2/19/08, Igor Roshchin wrote:
FWIW, Amazon accepts preorders for the 55-300 $399.95 (US)

Igor


Tue Feb 19 09:06:54 EST 2008
David J Brooks wrote:

  Could be old news. They are taking pre orders now.

  DA 200$1199
  DA 55-300  $449
  DA 300$1399
  DA 35 Macro  $449


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Re: Drive by drive in Part II

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 19, 2008 5:08 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, you're thinking of white balance. White Point refers to the 
 chromaticity coordinates that determine the value of white. In other words, 
 how much gray is present in your whitest white.
 Paul

Oh.

Thanks.

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Re: PESO or waste?

2008-02-19 Thread Jack Davis
To my eye, due to the nature of the image, the overblown highlights
give it a sheen that I find appealing.
The hand and its shadow, however, hold it back considerably. Really too
bad.

Jack
--- Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hello!
 
 I cannot decide if this photo is worth posting here...
 I have mixed feelings. First, I was ready to through this away,
 but something keeps taking me back to look at this photo.
 
 It was a quick single opportunity shot, and the highlights were
 overblown
 because I forgot to set flash compensation, and *istDS + AF-500 FTZ
 tends to do this at a close range.
 On another hand, - sometimes I think that these highlights create a
 bit
 posterized (as in poster-like) look.
 
 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0848-2.jpg
 
 What do you think?
 Don't be afraid to be brutal on this.
 :-)
 
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Re: PESO or waste?

2008-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
It has a Weegee look to it.  Just darken it a bit and use slightly less 
contrast.  Not much but blown highlights sometimes come with the territory.

Igor Roshchin wrote:
 Hello!

 I cannot decide if this photo is worth posting here...
 I have mixed feelings. First, I was ready to through this away,
 but something keeps taking me back to look at this photo.

 It was a quick single opportunity shot, and the highlights were overblown
 because I forgot to set flash compensation, and *istDS + AF-500 FTZ
 tends to do this at a close range.
 On another hand, - sometimes I think that these highlights create a bit
 posterized (as in poster-like) look.

 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0848-2.jpg

 What do you think?
 Don't be afraid to be brutal on this.
 :-)

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Re: PESO: The Perfect Man

2008-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Derby as usual you are correct...

Derby Chang wrote:
 David Savage wrote:
   
 G'day All,

 I took this one at a tyre inflating stop a couple of weeks ago. It's
 sort of a sign photo (~175kb):

 warning
 If you are easily offended by crude, obscene  tasteless adult humour,
 do NOT click on the following link.
 /warning

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1631.jpg

 K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f8, ISO 100.

 Enjoy,

 Cheers,

 Dave :-)

   
 


 She's in the van alone. And she looks like she's on the phone.

 Snappy shot.

 D

   


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Re: Drive by drive in Part II

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 19, 2008 4:44 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 White Point.  Color balance, (you of course see the world in BW so it's
 not important).

Oh.

Thanks.

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Re: Kosovo

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 17, 2008 1:44 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kosovans in London have been celebrating their country's declaration
 of independence today:

 http://www.web-options.com/Kosovo/

Tremendous photos, Bob.  My fave is this one:

http://www.web-options.com/Kosovo/content/_2187096_large.html

And, thanks to you and your wonderful photos, I now recognize the
Kosovo national flag, and I now know what the national headgear is,
too!

;-)

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Re: Drive by drive in Part II

2008-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Well Frank was thinking White Balance, I just replied using his 
terminology.  So sue me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 White Point.  Color balance, (you of course see the world in BW so it's 
 not important).
 

 No, you're thinking of white balance. White Point refers to the 
 chromaticity coordinates that determine the value of white. In other words, 
 how much gray is present in your whitest white. 
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Re: PESO or waste?

2008-02-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Igor Roshchin wrote:

 http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/retro/IMGP0848-2.jpg
 
 What do you think?
 Don't be afraid to be brutal on this.
 :-)

I really like it! Tell everyone you blew out the highlights and no one 
will be the wiser. It *looks* right.

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Re: PESO 2008 - 06 - GDG

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 18, 2008 1:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was browsing through some of my recent photos and found a small set
 of about ten photos I made with the Treo 650 cell phone during the
 New Years Eve party I went to. I mashed them about with Lightroom a
 bit and thought a couple of them looked rather nice, in a decorative
 way.

 The Treo's camera only does 640x480 pixels and has no user exposure
 controls so in a way it's kinda like shooting with a Holga or other
 toy camera. That's part of its charm ...  :-)

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/06-cellphonediptych.jpg

 Comments always appreciated.

Way cool!

Reminds me of Lomography.  Looks like you were having fun with it!

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OT: for Bill Robb

2008-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
A celebration of Windows entertainment in honor of your recent travails:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Tu5CPVoP8

Godfrey

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Re: Kosovo

2008-02-19 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Kosovo



 And, thanks to you and your wonderful photos, I now recognize the
 Kosovo national flag, and I now know what the national headgear is,
 too!

I'm pretty sure that Canada hasn't recognized Kosovo as an independant state 
yet, and probably 
won't until Serbia does, just as an aside.

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Re: PESO - Amgen Tour of California

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 19, 2008 5:45 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John Francis wrote:

   The Amgen Tour of California started today.
   Here's my last shot of the day (isn't that always the way):
  
   http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0808

 I'm following up late (been buried in school work this week) but that's
 a cracking shot! Just the right balance of blur and sharpness.

 It's making me look forward to bicycle weather as Lisa and I have new
 bikes we haven't ridden yet (well, she has hers -- after a 3-month wait
 for it to be shipped over from Italy -- and mine's at the shop waiting
 to be picked up...)

You and Dr. Lisa got new bikes?

And you didn't tell me?

Italian?

What, what, what?

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Re: PESO: The Woman

2008-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Feb 16, 2008 10:13 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   A woman confronted me as she and her two companions were leaving
 the coffee shop. Why didn't you take pictures of us, she asked.
 Don't we look good enough? She was smiling, but I think she was
 mildly annoyed at my picture taking in general. I clicked off a few
 frames as she spoke. Here's one.
 The coffee shop portraits. The woman:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6959353

A portrait with a great deal of humanity (I don't know how better to
express it).

Terrific shot!

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Re: More Leibovitz

2008-02-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Current mores should never be used to judge the past.  To consider this 
Rocco pedophilia is simply ignorant.  The magic numbers used today for 
adulthood were very different in other eras.  There's really nothing 
very special about numbers such as 13, 16, 18, 21 etc, except what 
society makes of them.  Romeo and Juliette were 14 years old.  Kings in 
their preteens married Queens in their 40's and vice versa for dynastic 
reasons, (for similar reasons Pharaohs married their sisters),  Mohamed 
took a 12 year old as his 4th wife.  None of this was considered 
particularly scandalous during the times they happened.  I expect that 
our civilization will be viewed with horror by our descendants, though I 
couldn't tell you why.  The reasons will probably have nothing to do 
with what you or I find horrible.

Bob W wrote:
 A trailer on The First Post for a film about La Leibovitz:
 http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?filmID=935

 Looks quite interesting.

 Bob


   
   
 And a review of the doco here (in the 2nd half of the article)

 http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainm
 ent/visual_arts/article3365432.ece

 

 That is a review and a half - thanks. I always enjoy watching Waldemar
 Januszczak on the TV (he does Capital A Art programmes), but he really
 takes an axe to that show (and the doco).

 I might say I was rather shocked to read this
  I doubt Leibovitz or Johansson are aware that O'Murphy was 14 when
 Boucher painted her, and that their recreation celebrates an act of
 rococo paedophilia. 

 I wasn't aware of that, and I've always considered the picture to be
 particularly, er, worthy of study.

 Here it is for the curious:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fran%C3%A7ois_Boucher_026.jpg

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Re: Drive by drive in Part II

2008-02-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
To be completely accurate, Frank said I don't know what WP is. He  
never mentioned white balance. But I won't sue you. However Frank  
might:-).
Paul

On Feb 19, 2008, at 5:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Well Frank was thinking White Balance, I just replied using his
 terminology.  So sue me.

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 White Point.  Color balance, (you of course see the world in BW  
 so it's
 not important).


 No, you're thinking of white balance. White Point refers to the  
 chromaticity coordinates that determine the value of white. In  
 other words, how much gray is present in your whitest white.
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Re: OT: for Bill Robb

2008-02-19 Thread Scott Loveless
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 A celebration of Windows entertainment in honor of your recent travails:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Tu5CPVoP8
 
 Godfrey
 
six different versions, none of which work.

I love it!

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