Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Tim Bray
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,
  along with your general thoughts.

Thinking generally... that picture is evil.

 -T

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RE: Quickie Mac screen calibration software which seems to work

2008-03-08 Thread Bob W
 
[...]
 I still wonder sometimes how different my life would have 
 been if I had taken them up on the 
 offer.
 
 William Robb

but would untold wealth really have bought you happiness? 

Sure, you could have bought 40ft boats by the fleetload and sent them
all to Norway just for the hell of it; yes, you'd have been able to
sleep with any woman on the planet; of course, you'd have been able to
wine and dine in the finest restaurants, and have private boxes in the
theatre and opera; naturally the world's best rock bands would have
queued up to play for you at your birthday parties. Kings and
presidents would have sought your advice for their colour-matching
problems. You'd have had freezer cabinets full of free film for life.
You'd have had the power of life and death over the colour-blind
huddled masses of the world. You could have kept matching pairs of
jaguars and cheetahs in a paradise garden filled with peacocks and
year-round fruiting trees, just because you liked their colours.
Heston Blumental would have been your private chef, and he would light
his oven using pages torn from the Codex Atlanticus, because the
special qualities of the smoke add a tiny soupcon of nuance to the hot
dogs he boils for you. The mighty nation of Belgium would have donated
a Trappist monastery to you so that only you could drink their beer.
The pope himself would have prayed 5 times a day for your eternal
soul, and your lovely wife would have had her own team of plastic
surgeons on 24-hour callout so she could look more like the gorgeous
Jocelyn Wildenstein.

But would you have been happy?

I tell you, it is easier for a rich man to go through the eye of a
camel than a needle in heaven.

Or something.

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RE: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Bob W
 
 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,
 along with your general thoughts.
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5755a.htm
 

My girlfiend's got a beard like that.

Great photo though. No cropping needed.

General thoughts? It must be confusing to be a baboon. Brightly
coloured face, brightly coloured arse. It would be very easy to get
the 2 mixed up.

Bob 


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Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-08 Thread P. J. Alling
The only banding I see is a streak of blue/violet, that is the edge of a 
picture frame.  I've seen some particularly awful artifacts in slightly 
underexposed 3200 shots from my *ist-Ds but hell they were under exposed 
I wouldn't expect particularly good results from anything under those 
circumstances.  The ISO 800 exposure seems to be exceptionally clean.  
The 6400 exposure seems to be very clean for that ISO as well, though I 
have to admit I haven't seen any output from the new Nikon.  Maybe it 
looks bad in comparison to that, but the 6mp sensor on doesn't produce 
better at ISO 3200.

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 That's banding? HAR! Maybe at pixel peeping levels, but not at normal  
 viewing size and distance. And a K100d pic is far noiser, even at  
 1600. But to each their own.
 Paul
 On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Owen LaPrath wrote:

   
 The top image has that annoying banding I see in all K20d shots  
 starting at
 iso1600.
 I have even seen it in iso800 shots!
 Sorry, I'll stick with my K100d :)

 later
 Owen

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 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: K20D pictures


 I didn't do well today, but I did something.

 The top picture is shot at ISO6400!!
 With a 100% detail shot below.

 The studio thing was a 30 second light set-up shot at iso 800,  
 because i am
 a dork sometimes.
 Below it is a 100% detail as well.
 None of the images recieved any post processing, other than the  
 default
 settings in camera, and
 default settings in ACR. No sharpening, or levels or anything.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/k20/K20_page1.html

 The EXIF data is on the full frame shots, but

 the top picture is shot with the 77mm lens, 1/50th sec at f/2.5,  
 ISO 6400.

 The portrait is with the 77mm lens, 1/160th sec at f/11, ISO 800.

 The page is 760K.

 Enjoy

 William Robb


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Re: Quickie Mac screen calibration software which seems to work

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:38 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  - Original Message -
  From: Rick Womer
  Subject: Re: Quickie Mac screen calibration software which seems to work



  
   Calibrating a monitor with software is like measuring
   a car's speed by licking a finger and sticking it out
   the window.

  Well, not quite, but it does take a well trained eye. After a quarter 
 century working in the
  p
  It turned out hat I had as close to perfect colour acuity as they had seen, 
 and a certain amount
  of pressure was applied to me to move to Toronto and work at the main Kodak 
 facility untill my
  green card could be aquired.
  I still wonder sometimes how different my life would have been if I had 
 taken them up on the
  offer.

Frank, Bill and Dave, all in the same area code.

Now i'm scared,:-)

Dave

  William Robb





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Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Dave, i really like your night shots. This one is good.

Dave

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:08 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

  I've put together a small 4 image gallery to put last nights PESO into
  a bit more context (~490kb page)

  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm


  Cheers,

  Dave


  P.S

  The Aussies on list might recognise the blue  yellow vessel from the
  news. That's the Customs  Fisheries vessel that shadowed the Japanese
  whaling fleet.

  P.P.S.

  Brian, that shot was out 0.38 degrees ;-)

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Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
So my Pef's are compressed and my Nef's are not.

My head hurts.

LOL

Dave

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:53 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know whether the DNGs in the K20D are
compressed or not.

  It doesn't look like it.

  And if the .pefs are, there isn't much compression going on.

  Cheers,

  Dave



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Re: Argh! Lost my lab!

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Might just work.

The DNT lab was close by, but i found the quality went south when the
partners split up and i feel DNT was left with far from qualified
staff. Thats when i started to get pretty bad work.

I started to use Franks guy downtown. Nice man, knowledgable and
willing to spend the time with you.
He had to let the store go, due to rent increases, and is working from
home. I think Frank has gone down to see him, but i still need to. I
have several 120 rolls to process and look at.

Dave

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  Subject: Re: Argh! Lost my lab!


   And Brother Aaron was the only reliable develop source i had. My
   attempts were horrible as was DNT in Markham.

  I'm starting to think I should rebuild my darkroom just to give you guys 
 decent quality BW
  processing..

  William Robb


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Peso Track side

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Escorted two loads to Buckingham Quebec this week. I noticed this on
the second trip, in a small town on Hwy 148, called Masson.

Old station, hard to get at with the snow piled up. I tried to get
around but got stuck a few times.

I cropped this one a bit closer, but i still wanted a feel of being
alone, far away and abandoned.

Hope i acheived it.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030785

Might try a BW.

D200, 18-70, LR exposure adjust.

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Re: Battery Charger for K10D

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Our new mantra

OhmOhmOhm,

Dave

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:50 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 09:38 AM 29/02/2008, Cotty wrote:
   Oh yeah, and I plan to charge it to my credit card.  Just thought I'd
   get the electrical puns started.
  
  I like to see an nice positive attitude.

  This thread is sure to polarise the list

  Dave





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Re: Boris - PESO/PAW - Week 06 through 08

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
The firsdt two are very good.

Needs a red sign.

Just kidding

Dave

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

  I am in permanent catching up mode...

  http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-06.html

  http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-07.html

  http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-08.html

  Each week is different motif though...

  Have your say! Brutal and honest as usual.

  Thanks!

  Boris



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Re: GESO - Music

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
This is my fav, but they are all good.

http://photos.drivingtheflies.com/index.php?page=album.7.78p=1

Is this the Tony Sweet, drop camera effect.??

Dave

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 a few shots of stuff you don't usually see from me:

  http://photos.drivingtheflies.com/index.php?page=album.7

  enjoy

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Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding
last month, and the wife of a brother  was asked to
do the wedding photos.

She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-)

Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came
out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if
it took this long to find out.

As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing.

Dave

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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
First thought, was maybe a tad off the left, but after looking at it
for a while, i think its ok as is.

Nice colours and sharpness to it

Dave

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,
  along with your general thoughts.

  Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld
  ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6

  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5755a.htm

  Thanks,

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Re: Online Image Application

2008-03-08 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/03/06 Thu PM 10:35:01 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Online Image Application
 
 Bob W wrote:
  I thought some of you might find this interesting:
 
  http://a.viary.com/blog
 
  Cheers,
 
  Dave
  
  Who needs software in a world where there are knives?
  
  http://website.lineone.net/~a1/jocelyne/
  
  
 Argh!  My eyes!  Make it stop burning!

This might help.
http://website.lineone.net/~a1/index2.htm
Then  again...


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Re: Finally back (webhost chronicles)

2008-03-08 Thread David Mann
John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 About a week ago I started the process of moving my site to my new host,
 GoDaddy.com.  A couple weeks before this, my boss had me set up an account
 for the business website with GoDaddy, and once I figured out how to
 navigate GoDaddy's labarynthine websites, I found they offer a lot of good
 services.  As long as you avoid the hard sells, it's a good value.

Yes, GoDaddy are pretty big on the upsell.  I get emails from them  
every other day with a new discount offer.  Yeah I know you can  
opt-out... but I did actually make an order recently when a 20%-off  
coupon came in just as I was looking into virtual dedicated servers  
for a bigger project.

Cheers,

- Dave

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Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yacht market?

2008-03-08 Thread keith_w
Pål Jensen wrote:
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 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Boats are a bigger money looser than sports
 cars/racing, photography, women  children combined.
 
 
 Reply:
 
 Due to the almost worthless dollar, the Grand Banks yachts are almost half 
 price in the US compared to market prices in Norway. 

Which it will nearly cost to have it shipped to Norway?

keith whaley

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Re: PESO: Where's Grace

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Jack. Yes, I can sit in my easy chair with the camera beside  
me and wait for her to do something interesting. Lots of fun.
On Mar 7, 2008, at 11:24 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Great to be able to get a clean available light shot like that. Good
 natural looking image of a much loved grand daughter.

 Jack

 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where's Grace. The old blanket over the head kid's game. ISO 1600, FA

 50/1.4, [EMAIL PROTECTED]/13th second in a rather dark room, Cropped to abot 
 60%

 of the frame:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030004

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Re: Where's Grace

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Christine. Wish I had some extra money as well. Longing for  
those DA* lenses.
Paul
On Mar 7, 2008, at 11:35 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Hi Paul:  Wow, another great one of Grace!!!  Boy, this camera  
 looks great.
 Sure wish I had some extra money.  Cheers, Christine


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 Where's Grace. The old blanket over the head kid's game. ISO 1600, FA
 50/1.4, [EMAIL PROTECTED]/13th second in a rather dark room, Cropped to abot 
 60%
 of the frame:

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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's Jester. Not the mailman. Unless, of course, he already ate  
him. Good pic though.
Paul
On Mar 8, 2008, at 1:47 AM, William Robb wrote:

 I happened to be about today when the mailman delivered the  
 required stack of Government issue
 junk mail.
 This photo opportunity was not to be missed.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/the_mailman.html

 This was shot with the K20, and Nokton 58mm/1.4.
 ISO 400, f2 for 1/25 second.

 Enjoy

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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
You could crop in tight on the top and the left, but it works as  
presented. I might look at a tight crop version if it were mine.
Good shot.
Paul
On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:49 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,
 along with your general thoughts.

 Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld
 ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5755a.htm

 Thanks,

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Re: PESO: Where's Grace

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks. Good idea on the cloning. I'll do it.
Paul
On Mar 7, 2008, at 11:29 PM, David Savage wrote:

 At 01:11 PM 8/03/2008, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Where's Grace. The old blanket over the head kid's game. ISO 1600, FA
 50/1.4, [EMAIL PROTECTED]/13th second in a rather dark room, Cropped to abot 
 60%
 of the frame:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030004


 Very cute, I'd clone out the reflective label in the background.

 Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Fashion Advice

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Pretty girl, nice light. I might crop some off the top, although I  
can see why you might choose to leave it as well.
Paul
On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:02 AM, Derby Chang wrote:


 Hi everyone,

 Have been flat-chat for the last few weeks, so haven't had the  
 chance to
 comment on some nice pics I've seen coming by (I like to say something
 more interesting than just I like it, when I really like a shot).  
 And
 I owe Boris something too.

 For now, here's a quick street grab. I note a thread about the  
 DA50-200.
 My qualified comment - I like it too, for a zoom.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_fashionadvice/01.htm

 Too many likes in this post, for my liking.

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Re: Peso Track side

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Interesting and well exposed. That might be worth a trip back in the  
summer.
Paul
On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:17 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Escorted two loads to Buckingham Quebec this week. I noticed this on
 the second trip, in a small town on Hwy 148, called Masson.

 Old station, hard to get at with the snow piled up. I tried to get
 around but got stuck a few times.

 I cropped this one a bit closer, but i still wanted a feel of being
 alone, far away and abandoned.

 Hope i acheived it.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030785

 Might try a BW.

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Re: Boris - PESO/PAW - Week 06 through 08

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like week seven quite a lot. Very nice.
Paul
On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:26 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 The firsdt two are very good.

 Needs a red sign.

 Just kidding

 Dave

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 Hi!

  I am in permanent catching up mode...

  http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-06.html

  http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-07.html

  http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-08.html

  Each week is different motif though...

  Have your say! Brutal and honest as usual.

  Thanks!

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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Jack Davis
Bruce, if this is full frame, then no I wouldn't crop. If you have
cropped the right side, I'd add some back.
If mine, I'd archive a companion version of just the face.

Jack
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 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5755a.htm
 
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Re: Peso Track side

2008-03-08 Thread Jack Davis
I think you were successful! Like the curve of the road.
Looks like a boarded up railroad station.

Jack
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 Escorted two loads to Buckingham Quebec this week. I noticed this on
 the second trip, in a small town on Hwy 148, called Masson.
 
 Old station, hard to get at with the snow piled up. I tried to get
 around but got stuck a few times.
 
 I cropped this one a bit closer, but i still wanted a feel of being
 alone, far away and abandoned.
 
 Hope i acheived it.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030785
 
 Might try a BW.
 
 D200, 18-70, LR exposure adjust.
 
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Re: Problem Update: K20D and DA* 16-50 F2.8

2008-03-08 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi Joe,

That's weird, I'm going to be in Torino during the same days...
:-O
I'm leaving on Wednesday morning, so I'll be there on Wednesday
afternoon/evening and stay till Friday, I guess. I don't really
know where I'm going to be during those days, we are looking for
the locations of a short movie. For sure we have to meet some
people on Thursday, but that's almost all I know.
It would be nice to get together if we are able to, but I guess
the only possibility will be on Wednesday evening.

Around Milano... I'm told that Vigevano is really pretty, but I
guess Pavia is a nice place too, and with more attractions (my
former girlfriend lives in Milano and should know more than
me...). Never been in either place, though. They are the same
distance from Milano.

I'll mail you my phone for every need.

Ciao,

Gianfranco


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 Greetings, Gianfranco. We will be in Torino through early
Thursday, with 
 talks to give Tuesday and Wednesday. I have to give the talks
because 
 the university is paying for the trip, then I will have
obligations for 
 lunches, receptions, dinners, etc. On Thursday I think Bonnie
and I will 
 go to Milano if I can get tickets for La Scala. So we will
just spend a 
 couple of days in or around Milano, mostly relaxing, then we
must return 
 on Sunday the 16th.
 
 I am fairly familiar with central Milano, but can you
recommend 
 someplace interesting to go on a day trip near there? Is Pavia
very 
 interesting? Anyplace else? (We like ruins.) We are used to
traveling 
 through Italy on the trains.
 
 I have a problem evry time I go to Italy. The problem is that
I don't 
 want to leave.
 
 This won't be a heavy-duty photography trip, just whatever I
can catch 
 with whatever time I have to walk around.
 
 I believe I will take the DA limiteds, plus the FA 31. At
least it will 
 make the kit lighter.
 
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Re: Getting Lots of Duplicate Posts I Feel Better!

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Yes, the list seems to have the hicups, about 48 hours between re-issue.
Hope you are feeling better.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
He looks a bit sad...
Did he know you weren't going to let him play catch and release with
the mailman?
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: Peso Track side

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Thnaks Jack.

Yes it is an old station boarded up.

An older gentleman watched me take my pictures and spoke to me in
French. I noded and smiled a lot.

:-)

Dave

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think you were successful! Like the curve of the road.
  Looks like a boarded up railroad station.

  Jack


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   Escorted two loads to Buckingham Quebec this week. I noticed this on
   the second trip, in a small town on Hwy 148, called Masson.
  
   Old station, hard to get at with the snow piled up. I tried to get
   around but got stuck a few times.
  
   I cropped this one a bit closer, but i still wanted a feel of being
   alone, far away and abandoned.
  
   Hope i acheived it.
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030785
  
   Might try a BW.
  
   D200, 18-70, LR exposure adjust.
  
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Re: Peso Track side

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Paul.

I just might do that. The Ottawa valley and areas on the other side of
the river have a lot of history and old dwellings. Its not to far
away, about a 4 - 41/2 hour drive. Make a weekend of it.

Dave

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Interesting and well exposed. That might be worth a trip back in the
  summer.
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 On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:17 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

   Escorted two loads to Buckingham Quebec this week. I noticed this on
   the second trip, in a small town on Hwy 148, called Masson.
  
   Old station, hard to get at with the snow piled up. I tried to get
   around but got stuck a few times.
  
   I cropped this one a bit closer, but i still wanted a feel of being
   alone, far away and abandoned.
  
   Hope i acheived it.
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030785
  
   Might try a BW.
  
   D200, 18-70, LR exposure adjust.
  
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Re: Boris - PESO/PAW - Week 06 through 08

2008-03-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Bob, I find vignetting (added in editing) to be very hmmm interesting 
hmmm visual tool. So, I added significant vignetting myself.

Boris


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 Boris,
 I don't understand week 7.  It looks like very bad vignetting on the
 2nd shot, but follows with a comment that you were using the 43mm
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Re: Boris - PESO/PAW - Week 06 through 08

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris,
I don't understand week 7.  It looks like very bad vignetting on the
2nd shot, but follows with a comment that you were using the 43mm
limited.  What did you do to the image?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 5:26 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The firsdt two are very good.

 Needs a red sign.

 Just kidding

 Dave

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  Hi!
 
   I am in permanent catching up mode...
 
   http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-06.html
 
   http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-07.html
 
   http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-08.html
 
   Each week is different motif though...
 
   Have your say! Brutal and honest as usual.
 
   Thanks!
 
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Re: Boris - PESO/PAW - Week 06 through 08

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Sorenson
Boris -

Week 7 - I am drawn to the second image more than the first.  I like the 
starkness and the diagonals in the sand vs the grass.  The first seems 
too busy.

Week 8 - The Doorway.  I like the concept of recording entries to old 
buildings.  I'd like to move to the left a little more to see what's 
inside.  Not straight on, but just a little less angle and then rotate 
it to the left just a skosh so the verticals are really vertical.  I 
kind of expect to see an old man with a cane sitting next to the 
doorway.  ;]

Excalibur automobiles were built in Milwaukee, WI and the factory later 
moved to West Allis, a Milwaukee suburb.  The design was by Brooks 
Stevens, a quite famous industrial designer who was consulting to 
Studebaker automobiles at the time he came up with the concept.  It was 
patterned after the 1927 Mercedes-Benz and built of Studebaker Avanti 
parts.  About the time the prototype was completed Studebaker announced 
they were going out of business, so Stevens named it the Excalibur and 
started manufacturing it himself.  A recap of this info and more is here...

http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/makehistory/396,0/Excalibur_History.aspx

-p

Boris Liberman wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I am in permanent catching up mode...
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-06.html
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-07.html
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/03/paw-2008-week-08.html
 
 Each week is different motif though...
 
 Have your say! Brutal and honest as usual.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Costco slide scanning

2008-03-08 Thread Rebekah
Whose are back to front?


wait, what?

rg2

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  On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Bob, I JUST returned from Costco and have JUST popped the CD of my
   scanned slides into the computer.  29 cents apiece, no other charges.
 
 
  How did they mount the CD.?
 
  Dave
 
 Very carefully?
   rg2
 
 
 
   On 2/29/08, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:37, Walter Hamler wrote:
   
 Bob, I just had over 500 done and they put them on 3 CD's. No charge
 for the cd's at all.

   
I came in late to this, but... am I to understand that the quality is
pretty good for the scans?
   
.29/slide is a cheap price to pay, considering what a chore it is to
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Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread Rebekah
ouch.  I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official
photographer, more for my own enjoyment.  That sure seems like a
weighty responsibility!


rg2

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 Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding
 last month, and the wife of a brother  was asked to
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 She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-)

 Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came
 out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if
 it took this long to find out.

 As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing.

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Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks
Subject: Why i don't shoot weddings.


 Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding
 last month, and the wife of a brother  was asked to
 do the wedding photos.

 She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-)

 Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came
 out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if
 it took this long to find out.

 As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing.


Good. Maybe next time they'll hire a photographer rather than Uncle Frank.
Serves them right, and it's not fair to take it out on the person they got 
to do the pictures, when A) she isn't a professional, and b) they probably 
got exactly what they paid for.

I don't shoot weddings anymore, as my temptaton at the last few was to use 
an Ouzi rather than a Pentax.
But that not got anything to do with this.

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Re: Battery Charger for K10D

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks 
Subject: Re: Battery Charger for K10D


 Our new mantra
 
 OhmOhmOhm,
 

Watts this?

Are we feeling a bit wired?

Needing to feel more grounded?

Don't worry, its a common affliction.

Sorry
Normally I try to insulate you from this sort of thing.

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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote:
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 This photo opportunity was not to be missed.
 
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/the_mailman.html
 
 This was shot with the K20, and Nokton 58mm/1.4.
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 Enjoy
 
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That's a serious looking pup.  Nice shot, love the light and minimal DOF.

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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila
William:  Very handsome dog.  Another nice one.  Cheers, Christine


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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net; 
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Cc: Kristi Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 12:47 AM
Subject: The Mailman Cometh


I happened to be about today when the mailman delivered the required stack 
of Government issue
 junk mail.
 This photo opportunity was not to be missed.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/the_mailman.html

 This was shot with the K20, and Nokton 58mm/1.4.
 ISO 400, f2 for 1/25 second.

 Enjoy

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Re: Peso Track side

2008-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila
David:  Good one.  I like the crop as is, and I think it's probably best in 
color.  cheers, Christine


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Subject: Peso Track side


 Escorted two loads to Buckingham Quebec this week. I noticed this on
 the second trip, in a small town on Hwy 148, called Masson.

 Old station, hard to get at with the snow piled up. I tried to get
 around but got stuck a few times.

 I cropped this one a bit closer, but i still wanted a feel of being
 alone, far away and abandoned.

 Hope i acheived it.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030785

 Might try a BW.

 D200, 18-70, LR exposure adjust.

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Re: Fashion Advice

2008-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Derby:  Very nice.  Lovely light.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: Fashion Advice



 Hi everyone,

 Have been flat-chat for the last few weeks, so haven't had the chance to
 comment on some nice pics I've seen coming by (I like to say something
 more interesting than just I like it, when I really like a shot). And
 I owe Boris something too.

 For now, here's a quick street grab. I note a thread about the DA50-200.
 My qualified comment - I like it too, for a zoom.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_fashionadvice/01.htm

 Too many likes in this post, for my liking.

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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Bruce:  I like it as is.  Very nice color  composition.  Cheers, Christine


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 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,
 along with your general thoughts.

 Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld
 ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5755a.htm

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Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread Rick Womer
An Ouzi is what you get when you cross an Uzi with a
bottle of Ouzo.

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I don't shoot weddings anymore, as my temptaton at
 the last few was to use 
 an Ouzi rather than a Pentax.
 But that not got anything to do with this.
 



  

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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's Jester. Not the mailman. Unless, of course, he already ate
  him. Good pic though.
  Paul


He was staring intently at the mailman, not with bad intent, but lot's
of doggie interest to be sure.
The Nokton is a pretty nice lens, it's quite sharp, though I think any
of my many Pentax 50/1.4 lenses is sharper, and it appears prone to
veiling flare, which is something I have found Pentax lenses are well
protected against, and almost no other lens make is.
It will make a nice portrait lens though, which is why I bought it.

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Re: Getting Lots of Duplicate Posts I Feel Better!

2008-03-08 Thread Rick Womer
Yes, it's been going on for a couple of weeks--along
with massive weekend surges of messages posted earlier
in the week.

I think Doug may be doing some of his experiments
warping space/time again.

Rick

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 I just got over a very, very bad case of the flu 
 in looking at back email, 
 I find I've got a lot of duplicate pdml posts. 
 Anyone having the same 
 problems? Other problems?  Will it all get better? 
 Do we have PDML flu here 
 too?
 
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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 He looks a bit sad...
  Did he know you weren't going to let him play catch and release with
  the mailman?

I think he knew that he wasn't going to get the chance.
That's the famous aloof Rottweiler stare that they use to make people nervous.
Thanks for looking

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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb

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From: Christine Aguila 
Subject: Re: The Mailman Cometh


 William:  Very handsome dog.  Another nice one.  Cheers, Christine

Thanks Christine

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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Christian
Subject: Re: The Mailman Cometh


 William Robb wrote:
 I happened to be about today when the mailman delivered the required stack 
 of Government 
 issue
 junk mail.
 This photo opportunity was not to be missed.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/the_mailman.html

 This was shot with the K20, and Nokton 58mm/1.4.
 ISO 400, f2 for 1/25 second.

 Enjoy

 William Robb



 That's a serious looking pup.  Nice shot, love the light and minimal DOF.

Thanks Christian. At 20 months of age, he is now just over the 100 pound mark, 
and his chest is 
finally starting to fill out a bit.
He strikes fear and loathing into the masses, but is as friendly a dog as you 
could hope to 
meet.
Last night, after class, the son of one of the students asked if he could try 
working Jester for 
a while.
This is a nine year old kid who weighs less than 60 pounds.
Jester fell in beside him, gave him absolutely no problems, and worked well for 
him for the 
better part of 20 minutes.
Needless to say, I was impressed.

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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread P. J. Alling
You could crop it much tighter but it's fine the way it is.  An aside, 
it's a good thing for him that most animals are colorblind...

Bruce Dayton wrote:
 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,
 along with your general thoughts.

 Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld
 ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5755a.htm

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Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Womer 
Subject: Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.


 An Ouzi is what you get when you cross an Uzi with a
 bottle of Ouzo.
 

HAR

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Re: PESO - Just for comparison - The Grabber

2008-03-08 Thread Adam Maas
On 3/7/08, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Adam Maas wrote:
   PJ Alling was interested in seeing some Nikon high ISO shots. This
   one's somewhere over 3200 (IIRC it was at 6400) unfortunately Flickr
   won't display EXIF info it doesn't understand and the D300 reports
   ISO's over 3200 as Hi 0.3, 0.5, 0.7 or 1.0 rather than an ISO number.
  
   http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2015/2315901589_7490cbd8bf_o.jpg
  
   It's a bit large. And semi-OT, the grabber is a K1000 shooter, she's
   actually holding onto the guy's Nikon D80 so he doesn't hide his face
   with it.
  


 Oh, I really LIKE this one!

  Typical pub scene, typical residents, typical fun atmosphere.
  I'd happily join them to get in on it, if I could...

  *Great* shot, for several reasons.

  The expressions not the least of it!
  One could build a story out of them...

  Each participant was in a different place right then, weren't they... g

  Super!

  keith whaley


Well, the two in front have a long running joke spree going (Or more
accurately, he's her constant straightman), the girl in the back was
simply being entertained by those two practical jokers.

These are actually a few folks from the Toronto flickr group,
attending a show opening for another couple members of said group at a
local bar.

Frank actually would probably enjoy the show, it's mostly BW street
work, at Gorilla Monsoon this month ;-)


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Re: Argh! Lost my lab!

2008-03-08 Thread Adam Maas
What happened to Aaron? Is he out of the photography business?

I do my own BW, but I wouldn't want to dev for others, my process is
a little quirky.

-Adam

On 3/7/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And Brother Aaron was the only reliable develop source i had. My
  attempts were horrible as was DNT in Markham.

  Dave


  On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Not only is your lab gone, but so is HIE unless you can find some
older stock or have some in the freezer. Discontinued last fall by
Kodak.
  
-Adam
  
  
On 3/6/08, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
I finally have a vehicle again (after an unlicensed, drunk car thief
  totalled my car and some of my neighbours' cars a year ago), and a
  friend asked me to shoot her wedding in May (I need to crawl through
  the list archives for old threads about what it's reasonable to
  charge so as to still be giving a friend a big break but not completely
  undermine the full-time pros' ability to charge saner fees) so I headed
  up to the lab to drop off some Velvia and to find out whether prices
  were the same as the last time I'd checked.

  *pout*  They're gone.  Front window papered over and a for rent sign
  on it.  Bleah.

  So ... I searched online for photo labs in/near Baltimore, and so
  far I'm finding a whole lot of one-hour services in drug stores
  (*cringe*), one that looked promising until I dug deeper and saw
  that they don't develop film, only scan it and make digital prints
  (so I guess I could have the drug store develop it and then take
  the negatives there ...), and one that doesn't list prices and
  appears to only do machine prints (which, if the operator is serious
  and skilled, will do a lot of the time, but I'd like to know where
  to get colour done on an enlarger Just In Case).

  I was also planning to shoot some HIE, but I don't know whether any
  minilab machines are safe for that (I'll Google that later).  I may
  wind up having to develop the HIE myself (in which case I guess I'd
  better shoot some practice rolls).



  So:  who's still shooting film in my neck of the woods, and where
  do you take your colour film for processing?

 -- Glenn

  PS:  I _might_ be able to borrow a DSLR for the day, but if I do,
  it'll be a Nikon, since that's what three or four of my bandmates
  are shooting.  My own digicam is a 1.2 megapixel point*shoot that
  is not going to be suitable for shooting a wedding.  But my K2 and
  Program Plus are ready to go, if I can find a good place for the
  processing.


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Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread Carlos Royo
Rebekah escribió:
 ouch.  I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official
 photographer, more for my own enjoyment.  That sure seems like a
 weighty responsibility!
 
 

I was once the official photographer at a wedding. Everything turned
out well and everyone liked the photos, but I wouldn't do that again,
too much stress.

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Re: Peso Track side

2008-03-08 Thread Rebekah
Great one, definitely makes it feel old and lonely to me and I also
like the curving rails.

rg2

On 3/8/08, Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David:  Good one.  I like the crop as is, and I think it's probably best in
 color.  cheers, Christine


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 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 5:17 AM
 Subject: Peso Track side


  Escorted two loads to Buckingham Quebec this week. I noticed this on
  the second trip, in a small town on Hwy 148, called Masson.
 
  Old station, hard to get at with the snow piled up. I tried to get
  around but got stuck a few times.
 
  I cropped this one a bit closer, but i still wanted a feel of being
  alone, far away and abandoned.
 
  Hope i acheived it.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030785
 
  Might try a BW.
 
  D200, 18-70, LR exposure adjust.
 
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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:16 AM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   He looks a bit sad...
Did he know you weren't going to let him play catch and release with
the mailman?

  I think he knew that he wasn't going to get the chance.
  That's the famous aloof Rottweiler stare that they use to make people 
 nervous.
  Thanks for looking

I thought is was nervopuse sheep.:-0

Good shot Bill. Nice lens

Dave

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Re: PESO - Just for comparison - The Grabber

2008-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Frank actually would probably enjoy the show, it's mostly BW street
  work, at Gorilla Monsoon this month ;-)

He was a wrestler at one time, was he not.:-)

Nice shot Adam. The noise level is quite good.

Not that i';m going to upgrade from the D200 to D300, but its good to know.



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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread Rebekah
That look would certainly stop a few junk-mailers in their tracks ;)
What a beautiful dog, and great picture.

rg2

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  William:  Very handsome dog.  Another nice one.  Cheers, Christine

 Thanks Christine

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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Christian
For the record, I like it as is too.  Striking animal.

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David J Brooks wrote:
 First thought, was maybe a tad off the left, but after looking at it
 for a while, i think its ok as is.
 
 Nice colours and sharpness to it
 
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,
  along with your general thoughts.

  Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld
  ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6

  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5755a.htm

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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread Doug Franklin
David J Brooks wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:16 AM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think he knew that he wasn't going to get the chance.
  That's the famous aloof Rottweiler stare that they use to make people 
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  Thanks for looking

 I thought is was nervopuse sheep.:-0

Nah, it's Scots and Cotty that make the sheep nervous. ;-)

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Re: Battery Charger for K10D

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
I don't know Bill.
You currently sound pretty charged up about it.
Are you alternating between positive and negative about this mantra?
Stop resisting an go with the flow!

Ohm...Ohm...Ohm

Regards,  Bob S.


On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:19 AM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 From: David J Brooks
 Subject: Re: Battery Charger for K10D


  Our new mantra
 
  OhmOhmOhm,
 

 Watts this?

 Are we feeling a bit wired?

 Needing to feel more grounded?

 Don't worry, its a common affliction.

 Sorry
 Normally I try to insulate you from this sort of thing.

 William Robb


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Re: Getting Lots of Duplicate Posts I Feel Better

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Doug has to stop running the toaster and the Time/Space experiments at
the same time.
He's blowing too many fuses...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, it's been going on for a couple of weeks--along
 with massive weekend surges of messages posted earlier
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 I think Doug may be doing some of his experiments
 warping space/time again.

 Rick

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K20D AF calibration data

2008-03-08 Thread Dario Bonazza
By using Tim Jackson's chart (thanks Rick for reminding me that!) I've got 
the following calibration settings for the K20D:

DA 12-24 = -6
DA 16-45 = 0
DA* 50-135 = -3

FA 31 = -10 (and it's not enough!)
FA 50/1.7 = -10
FA 50/1.4 = -10
FA* 85/1.4 = -9
FA 24-90 = -6

F* 300/4.5 = -4

So my lenses are all front focusing, and not a single one is back focusing. 
Or maybe my K20D is acting that way.
It will be interesting to know how much variation one can find with the same 
combos made up of different items.

Cheers,

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Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread Jim Apilado
Back before I knew better,  I took my Yashicamat camera to a wedding  
of a co-worker.  I took pictures at the same time as the hired  
photographer was taking the formal photos at the altar.   Managed to  
get 5 shots before he told me that I couldn't photograph.   Turned  
out that the pro had equipment failure and nothing came out.  My  
5 photos were the only ones showing any part of the wedding.

Jim A.
On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding
 last month, and the wife of a brother  was asked to
 do the wedding photos.

 She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-)

 Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came
 out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if
 it took this long to find out.

 As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing.

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Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread Jim Apilado
There are a lot of amateur photographers who make the jump to  
professional wedding photographer.   I've done dozens of weddings  
over the past 30 years.   Still an amateur,  and still shooting film  
ONLY at weddings.  Have had lots of good food and good beer.

Jim A.
On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Rebekah wrote:

 ouch.  I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official
 photographer, more for my own enjoyment.  That sure seems like a
 weighty responsibility!


 rg2

 On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding
 last month, and the wife of a brother  was asked to
 do the wedding photos.

 She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-)

 Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came
 out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if
 it took this long to find out.

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Peso ~ another underexposed mammal photo :)

2008-03-08 Thread Francis
I like under exposing things :-)
http://www.islandlight.ca/index.php?image_id=552

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Re: Getting Lots of Duplicate Posts I Feel Better

2008-03-08 Thread Doug Brewer

On Mar 8, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Doug has to stop running the toaster and the Time/Space experiments at
 the same time.
 He's blowing too many fuses...
 Regards,  Bob S.

dude. we gotta have toast.

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Re: K20D AF calibration data

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Dario Bonazza
Subject: K20D  AF calibration data


 By using Tim Jackson's chart (thanks Rick for reminding me that!) I've got
 the following calibration settings for the K20D:

 DA 12-24 = -6
 DA 16-45 = 0
 DA* 50-135 = -3

 FA 31 = -10 (and it's not enough!)
 FA 50/1.7 = -10
 FA 50/1.4 = -10
 FA* 85/1.4 = -9
 FA 24-90 = -6

 F* 300/4.5 = -4

 So my lenses are all front focusing, and not a single one is back focusing.
 Or maybe my K20D is acting that way.
 It will be interesting to know how much variation one can find with the same
 combos made up of different items.

With numbers that high, and all in the same direction, I'd be taking the camera 
back for 
replacement.

William Robb 


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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Much thanks Bob, for the thoughts.

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Saturday, March 8, 2008, 1:13:36 AM, you wrote:

 
 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,
 along with your general thoughts.
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5755a.htm
 

BW My girlfiend's got a beard like that.

BW Great photo though. No cropping needed.

BW General thoughts? It must be confusing to be a baboon. Brightly
BW coloured face, brightly coloured arse. It would be very easy to get
BW the 2 mixed up.

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Re: Peso Track side

2008-03-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Nice angle on it.  I think BW might be better for your stated goal.

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Saturday, March 8, 2008, 3:17:04 AM, you wrote:

DJB Escorted two loads to Buckingham Quebec this week. I noticed this on
DJB the second trip, in a small town on Hwy 148, called Masson.

DJB Old station, hard to get at with the snow piled up. I tried to get
DJB around but got stuck a few times.

DJB I cropped this one a bit closer, but i still wanted a feel of being
DJB alone, far away and abandoned.

DJB Hope i acheived it.

DJB http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030785

DJB Might try a BW.

DJB D200, 18-70, LR exposure adjust.

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Re: PESO: Fashion Advice

2008-03-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Derby,

I like the lighting and mood presented.  Nicely captured.  I think I
would crop some off the top - it is too empty up there.

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Friday, March 7, 2008, 11:02:11 PM, you wrote:


DC Hi everyone,

DC Have been flat-chat for the last few weeks, so haven't had the chance to
DC comment on some nice pics I've seen coming by (I like to say something
DC more interesting than just I like it, when I really like a shot). And
DC I owe Boris something too.

DC For now, here's a quick street grab. I note a thread about the DA50-200.
DC My qualified comment - I like it too, for a zoom.

DC http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_fashionadvice/01.htm

DC Too many likes in this post, for my liking.

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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Dayton 



 Brightly
 BW coloured face, brightly coloured arse. 

Sounds like


no, I just can't go there.

WW


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Re: Where's Grace

2008-03-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Paul,

I'm the opposite - spent the money on the DA* lenses, and now longing
for the K20D - sometime when I have the money...

Keep up the good work.

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Saturday, March 8, 2008, 3:59:37 AM, you wrote:

PS Thanks Christine. Wish I had some extra money as well. Longing for  
PS those DA* lenses.
PS Paul
PS On Mar 7, 2008, at 11:35 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Hi Paul:  Wow, another great one of Grace!!!  Boy, this camera  
 looks great.
 Sure wish I had some extra money.  Cheers, Christine


 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:11 PM
 Subject: PESO: Where's Grace


 Where's Grace. The old blanket over the head kid's game. ISO 1600, FA
 50/1.4, [EMAIL PROTECTED]/13th second in a rather dark room, Cropped to 
 abot 60%
 of the frame:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030004

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Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Rebekah,

I have to chuckle, you don't shoot weddings for enjoyment...that is
for guests.  I can say that after shooting a bunch, it does seem less
stressful, or perhaps you are able to handle the stress much better.

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Saturday, March 8, 2008, 6:28:35 AM, you wrote:

R ouch.  I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official
R photographer, more for my own enjoyment.  That sure seems like a
R weighty responsibility!


R rg2

R On 3/8/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding
 last month, and the wife of a brother  was asked to
 do the wedding photos.

 She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-)

 Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came
 out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if
 it took this long to find out.

 As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing.

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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Touche - thanks.

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Saturday, March 8, 2008, 7:17:39 AM, you wrote:

PJA You could crop it much tighter but it's fine the way it is.  An aside,
PJA it's a good thing for him that most animals are colorblind...

PJA Bruce Dayton wrote:
 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,
 along with your general thoughts.

 Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld
 ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5755a.htm

 Thanks,

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Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've done a half dozen or so over the years. It's much less stressful  
with digital than it was with film. Particularly if you bring a  
laptop or portable drive and back up your full cards.
Paul
On Mar 8, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Carlos Royo wrote:

 Rebekah escribió:
 ouch.  I'd love to shoot a wedding, but not as the official
 photographer, more for my own enjoyment.  That sure seems like a
 weighty responsibility!



 I was once the official photographer at a wedding. Everything turned
 out well and everyone liked the photos, but I wouldn't do that again,
 too much stress.

 Carlos


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Re: Getting Lots of Duplicate Posts I Feel Better

2008-03-08 Thread Scott Loveless
Doug Brewer wrote:
 On Mar 8, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 
 Doug has to stop running the toaster and the Time/Space experiments at
 the same time.
 He's blowing too many fuses...
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 dude. we gotta have toast.
 
Something is toasted.

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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks, Christian - I appreciate your opinion.

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Saturday, March 8, 2008, 7:21:22 AM, you wrote:

C For the record, I like it as is too.  Striking animal.

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C David J Brooks wrote:
 First thought, was maybe a tad off the left, but after looking at it
 for a while, i think its ok as is.
 
 Nice colours and sharpness to it
 
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,
  along with your general thoughts.

  Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld
  ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6

  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5755a.htm

  Thanks,

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Re: K20D AF calibration data

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
So far, of four lenses tested, my largest derivation was the FA50 at  
-4. I had a couple pluses and a couple minuses.
Paul
On Mar 8, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

 By using Tim Jackson's chart (thanks Rick for reminding me that!)  
 I've got
 the following calibration settings for the K20D:

 DA 12-24 = -6
 DA 16-45 = 0
 DA* 50-135 = -3

 FA 31 = -10 (and it's not enough!)
 FA 50/1.7 = -10
 FA 50/1.4 = -10
 FA* 85/1.4 = -9
 FA 24-90 = -6

 F* 300/4.5 = -4

 So my lenses are all front focusing, and not a single one is back  
 focusing.
 Or maybe my K20D is acting that way.
 It will be interesting to know how much variation one can find with  
 the same
 combos made up of different items.

 Cheers,

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Re: K20D AF calibration data

2008-03-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree. Or at least a baseline adjustment.
Paul
On Mar 8, 2008, at 12:33 PM, William Robb wrote:


 - Original Message -
 From: Dario Bonazza
 Subject: K20D  AF calibration data


 By using Tim Jackson's chart (thanks Rick for reminding me that!)  
 I've got
 the following calibration settings for the K20D:

 DA 12-24 = -6
 DA 16-45 = 0
 DA* 50-135 = -3

 FA 31 = -10 (and it's not enough!)
 FA 50/1.7 = -10
 FA 50/1.4 = -10
 FA* 85/1.4 = -9
 FA 24-90 = -6

 F* 300/4.5 = -4

 So my lenses are all front focusing, and not a single one is back  
 focusing.
 Or maybe my K20D is acting that way.
 It will be interesting to know how much variation one can find  
 with the same
 combos made up of different items.

 With numbers that high, and all in the same direction, I'd be  
 taking the camera back for
 replacement.

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Re: Peso ~ another underexposed mammal photo :)

2008-03-08 Thread Rebekah
I like your underexposure too.  Makes it look like camouflage :)

rg2

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 I like under exposing things :-)
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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread keith_w
William Robb wrote:
 I happened to be about today when the mailman delivered the required stack of 
 Government issue 
 junk mail.
 This photo opportunity was not to be missed.
 
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/the_mailman.html
 
 This was shot with the K20, and Nokton 58mm/1.4.
 ISO 400, f2 for 1/25 second.
 
 Enjoy
 
 William Robb 
 
 

My oh my! That's one handsome dog!

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Re: Getting Lots of Duplicate Posts I Feel Better!

2008-03-08 Thread Doug Brewer

On Mar 7, 2008, at 11:40 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 I just got over a very, very bad case of the flu  in looking at  
 back email,
 I find I've got a lot of duplicate pdml posts.  Anyone having the same
 problems? Other problems?  Will it all get better?  Do we have PDML  
 flu here
 too?

 Cheers, Christine

Had a message from the host co. a couple days ago saying they had a  
hard drive crash. They were installing a new one and cloning stuff,  
so we may be seeing results of that.

glad you're feeling better.

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Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread keith_w
William Robb wrote:

[...]

 I don't shoot weddings anymore, as my temptaton at the last few was to use 
 an Ouzi rather than a Pentax.
 But that not got anything to do with this.
 
 William Robb 


An Ouzi?

If you meant Ouzo, yeah, you're right. it's better to drink yourself to 
oblivion than shoot your self with an Uzi.

On the other hand, an Ouzo drinker armed with an Uzi is *surely* one to 
avoid!  g

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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: keith_w
Subject: Re: The Mailman Cometh



 My oh my! That's one handsome dog!

Thanks Keith. He just keeps gettin prettier day by day.

William Robb

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Re: K20D AF calibration data

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: K20D  AF calibration data


 So far, of four lenses tested, my largest derivation was the FA50 at
 -4. I had a couple pluses and a couple minuses.

That sounds like as properly calibrated a camera as one could hope for. Not 
being able to adjust 
far enough to bring a lens in, and a lot of them stitting right at maximum 
adjustment sounds 
like that one slipped past quality control.

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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Rebekah 
Subject: Re: The Mailman Cometh


 That look would certainly stop a few junk-mailers in their tracks ;)

I may have to sic him on a few. I get fat too much junk mail.

 What a beautiful dog, and great picture.

Thank you Rebekah
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Re: The Mailman Cometh

2008-03-08 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks 
Subject: Re: The Mailman Cometh



 
 Good shot Bill. Nice lens

Thanks Dave
bill

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Re: Where's Grace

2008-03-08 Thread Ken Waller
Wonderful capture Paul.

I continue to be amazed @ the hi ISO results !

I'm being drawn. 

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- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: Where's Grace


 Where's Grace. The old blanket over the head kid's game. ISO 1600, FA  
 50/1.4, [EMAIL PROTECTED]/13th second in a rather dark room, Cropped to abot 
 60%  
 of the frame:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030004


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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread AlunFoto
2008/3/8, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 General thoughts? It must be confusing to be a baboon. Brightly
 coloured face, brightly coloured arse. It would be very easy to get
 the 2 mixed up.

Truly confusing. Especially since it's not a baboon, but a mandrill. :-)

Jostein

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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread AlunFoto
2008/3/8, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,

I don't think so.

 along with your general thoughts.

Odd expression... But then again odd makeup too... :-)

Jostein

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Re: K20D focus adjustment

2008-03-08 Thread Ken Waller

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From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: K20D focus adjustment


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 On Mar 4, 2008, at 5:48, David J Brooks wrote:
   K20D will have to wait. I'm more interested in getting a good F2.8 or
   F4 zoom for the horse ring. I plan to make the K10D the mane camera if
   a lens comes out soon enough. However if i make money early on my
   shows, i might have enough for both
  

  Mane camera for horse shows?  Did you do that on purpose?

 Neigh.:-)

Looks like he's bale-ing on that one !

Kenneth Waller
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 Dave

   -Charles

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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Ken Waller
Since you asked
Yeah I think a crop along the bottom edge,  removing enough to place the 
edge @ the intersection of the branch  paw would be a slight improvement. 
And then clone out the remnants of the green leaf under the left arm.

Nice capture with good color rendition.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - Bad Makeup


 I'm wondering if you think there should be any crop on this one,
 along with your general thoughts.

 Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 300mm, Handheld
 ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5755a.htm


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Re: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Doug Brewer

On Mar 8, 2008, at 1:31 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

 2008/3/8, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 General thoughts? It must be confusing to be a baboon. Brightly
 coloured face, brightly coloured arse. It would be very easy to get
 the 2 mixed up.

 Truly confusing. Especially since it's not a baboon, but a  
 mandrill. :-)

 Jostein

Is it Barbara Mandrill?

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Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-08 Thread Ken Waller
 My head hurts.

Maybe its compressed?


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- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results


 So my Pef's are compressed and my Nef's are not.

 My head hurts.

 LOL

 Dave

 On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:53 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know whether the DNGs in the K20D are
compressed or not.

  It doesn't look like it.

  And if the .pefs are, there isn't much compression going on.

  Cheers,

  Dave


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Re: Peso Track side

2008-03-08 Thread Ken Waller
Nice composition, but I prefer my snow white.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Peso Track side


 Escorted two loads to Buckingham Quebec this week. I noticed this on
 the second trip, in a small town on Hwy 148, called Masson.
 
 Old station, hard to get at with the snow piled up. I tried to get
 around but got stuck a few times.
 
 I cropped this one a bit closer, but i still wanted a feel of being
 alone, far away and abandoned.
 
 Hope i acheived it.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7030785
 
 Might try a BW.
 
 D200, 18-70, LR exposure adjust.
 
 Dave


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Re: Battery Charger for K10D

2008-03-08 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks Bill..

I got a chrge out of this

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Battery Charger for K10D


 
 - Original Message - 
 From: David J Brooks 
 Subject: Re: Battery Charger for K10D
 
 
 Our new mantra
 
 OhmOhmOhm,
 
 
 Watts this?
 
 Are we feeling a bit wired?
 
 Needing to feel more grounded?
 
 Don't worry, its a common affliction.
 
 Sorry
 Normally I try to insulate you from this sort of thing.
 
 William Robb


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Re: Why i don't shoot weddings.

2008-03-08 Thread DagT
The Yashica-Mat camera is great for that use as it is almost  
completely quiet. One of the very few times I have been fooled to take  
pictures during a wedding (it was my brother) they didn´t want to be  
distracted by cameras during the ceremony, so I got a seat in front in  
the church and used my Yashica-Mat. Nobody noticed what I was doing  
and the pictures were OK  (but they did notice our father who used his  
compact with automatic wind and rewind to take the last picture on his  
film and we all listened to the rewind for å couple of minuts. .-)   
The ME Super is also good for that kind of use.

Anyway, I always refuse to take pictures if they don´t hire a real  
photographer as well...

DagT

Den 8. mars. 2008 kl. 18.22 skrev Jim Apilado:

 Back before I knew better,  I took my Yashicamat camera to a wedding
 of a co-worker.  I took pictures at the same time as the hired
 photographer was taking the formal photos at the altar.   Managed to
 get 5 shots before he told me that I couldn't photograph.   Turned
 out that the pro had equipment failure and nothing came out.  My
 5 photos were the only ones showing any part of the wedding.

 Jim A.
 On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:21 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Had a beer with a friend last night. They were at a relatives wedding
 last month, and the wife of a brother  was asked to
 do the wedding photos.

 She has some sort of a non PS camera i'm lead to believe.:-)

 Anyway, he tells me last night, that NONE of the photos she took came
 out, Unknown if she shot film or digital, but i suspect film if
 it took this long to find out.

 As expected, they are pissed, and a family row is now in full swing.

 Dave


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RE: PESO - Bad Makeup

2008-03-08 Thread Bob W
  2008/3/8, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   General thoughts? It must be confusing to be a baboon. Brightly
   coloured face, brightly coloured arse. It would be very 
 easy to get
   the 2 mixed up.
  
  Truly confusing. Especially since it's not a baboon, but a 
  mandrill. :-)
  
  Jostein
  
 
 particularly confusing for the girldrills then.
 
 Aren't mandrills a type of baboon?
 
 Bob

to answer my own question: apparently not. At least according to Wiki.
I'm also surprised to see that the gelada is also no longer a baboon.
It is my ambition to go and watch (and listen to) geladas next time
I'm in Ethiopia (which I hope will be soon, as I'm getting very
nostalgic for the place).

Bob


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