Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/1/2010 7:51 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

to all our listers north of the (US) border.  What goes on for Canada
Day?  (aside from the beer).



I'd second that...

Boris


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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Joseph McAllister
You realize you are getting on the case of my seventh cousin on my  
mother's side, who's never bothered to write. I defend her  
nonetheless, though, poor thing. Her family lost a war some 230 years  
ago when her highly trained troops and the Royal Navy were driven off  
by a bunch of farmers in rags and some rich kids with a borrowed  
ship.  :-p



On Jul 2, 2010, at 14:33 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


There is a difference:  we elected the fools down there in DC.  We
have only ourselves to blame.  We don't pay homage to someone merely
because that person is a distant relative of the German House of
Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.

Dan

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:20 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:


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Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day


I strongly object to giving anyone that kind of power simply because
of their ancestry.

Are you really comfortable giving someone like her son that kind  
of power?


It works well enough, and as far as governments go, ours seems more  
honest than most.
If you really want to bleat about governments, go and do something  
about that corruption center in D.C.

You have far bigger fish to fry than we ever will.

William Robb


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Re: OT New York border like 4.5 miles ?

2010-07-04 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jul 2, 2010, at 14:33 , Larry Colen wrote:



Go to Satellite view, and double click on the little yellow man.


Thanks a bunch, that was it, and it was state line
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=dsource=s_dsaddr=41.049971,-74.189301daddr=I-287+Nhl=engeocode=%3BFWtUcwIdWV6U-wmra=dmemrcr=0mrsp=0sz=14sll=41.065051,-74.163208sspn=0.051253,0.119047ie=UTF8ll=41.051527,-74.18859spn=0,0.002374t=hz=19layer=ccbll=41.051903,-74.188429panoid=PI0Qgi5fX9cCYStj5JwoYAcbp=12,24.2,,0,10.19

Welcome to the twentyfreakingfirst century.

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Is it just me or is the resolution so low that the sign is just a  
blur for anyone else.


It's blurry, but mostly readable on my monitor.



Wrong Sign. That one says New Jersey State Line 4.5 miles. It must be  
9 miles from the correct sign - on the other side of the road!




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Re: PESO - Turbofan

2010-07-04 Thread Toine
Wow! You lucky to get so close to this engine.
Toine

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 Okay, I remembered to post something... :-)

 http://bongmanayon.posterous.com/reverse-gestalt#

 I got a dream assignment documenting an airline service provider
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RE: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
She's on her way to New York soon, where I believe she has substantial
property holdings. Perhaps you should have a word with her. 

She is very self-sacrificing. Look how she goes out of her way here to make
her hosts feel better about their silly hats, by wearing even sillier ones:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10500737.stm 



 
 You realize you are getting on the case of my seventh cousin on my
 mother's side, who's never bothered to write. I defend her
 nonetheless, though, poor thing. Her family lost a war some 230 years
 ago when her highly trained troops and the Royal Navy were driven off
 by a bunch of farmers in rags and some rich kids with a borrowed
 ship.  :-p
 
 
 On Jul 2, 2010, at 14:33 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 
  There is a difference:  we elected the fools down there in DC.  We
  have only ourselves to blame.  We don't pay homage to someone merely
  because that person is a distant relative of the German House of
  Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
 
  Dan
 
  On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:20 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
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  From: Daniel J. Matyola
  Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day
 
  I strongly object to giving anyone that kind of power simply
 because
  of their ancestry.
 
  Are you really comfortable giving someone like her son that kind
  of power?
 
  It works well enough, and as far as governments go, ours seems more
  honest than most.
  If you really want to bleat about governments, go and do something
  about that corruption center in D.C.
  You have far bigger fish to fry than we ever will.
 
  William Robb



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RE: PESO - Turbofan

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
 On 30 June 2010 05:34, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
  Okay, I remembered to post something... :-)
 
  http://bongmanayon.posterous.com/reverse-gestalt#
 
  I got a dream assignment documenting an airline service provider
  (catering and aircraft maintenance)...

It's a type of synecdoche.




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Re: Geso Barn redo

2010-07-04 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Paul and Ecke.

Its on my short list for farm scene for the Markham Fair photo contest.
Lordy, its only 3 months a way. Were does the time go.,

Dave

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:07 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I like the blue sky version on the far left. You could probably pull a little 
 more out of the shadows. But nice as presented.
 Great scene.
 Paul
 On Jul 3, 2010, at 7:52 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Thanks.

 To answer your question, no i did not. My only polarizer  does not fit
 my 50-200, but maybe worth a try on the 16-45. Its supposed to be
 rather nice again Sunday.

 Dave

 On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:48 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Much better, Dave. Just wondering, did you try to use a polarizer to
 push the sky some more?
 Thanks for sharing
 Ecke

 2010/7/3 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:
 Went back on Friday to the barn and yellow field. Nice sunny day with
 blue skies.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=972727

 6773 and 6771, the two on the left are the new ones.

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PESO: Goldeneye

2010-07-04 Thread Charles Robinson
I was walking along the Mississippi river at twilight when this little guy 
hopped across the path and then he just STOPPED.

I popped the Tamron 90mm onto the K-7 and started snapping.. closer and 
closer... finally I'm right down on the ground with the lens about 8 inches 
away from his face.  The sun had set so I was down to:

ISO 800, f5.6, 1/4 second

The darned thing has golden eyes!

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP2883.jpg

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Pentax gear...

2010-07-04 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://4models.info/images/0.en.png

Just fun, I use this image for model candidates without photos on file.





K20D, DA 10-17, D-XENON 18-55, DA* 16-50, FA 50 F1.4, DA 50-200,
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Re: semi-ot but photo-related: imjustwalkin.com

2010-07-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Charles --
I'm so glad you posted this  - I love it... I love that he is doing it...
and enjoy following the journey...

I've done several cross country trips, but only by car or bus... the 
most treking Ive done was of a shorter duration...
but  the adventure of a slow purposeful ramble across the country is 
wonderful to do and lovely to read when one cant do it anymore.


ann


Charles Robinson wrote:

An interesting, light-hearted photo blog being done by a man who is walking East-to-West across the U.S.  


He's carrying a Verizon Droid phone and usually posts 4-8 photos per day with 
little comments.  The photo quality is quite good - for a phone!

I've been finding it fascinating to check up every once in a while to see how 
he's doing - almost to Montana now.

http://imjustwalkin.com


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Re: Geso Barn redo

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice.  I like the composition and sky in Barn and Yellow field III,
but I like the foreground interest in Barn and Yellow field I.  Can
you combine them somehow?  G

Dan

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:46 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Went back on Friday to the barn and yellow field. Nice sunny day with
 blue skies.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=972727

 6773 and 6771, the two on the left are the new ones.

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Re: Geso Barn redo

2010-07-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice.  I like the composition and sky in Barn and Yellow field III,
 but I like the foreground interest in Barn and Yellow field I.  Can
 you combine them somehow?  G

Who do you think i am, David Stenquest.:-)

Dave

 Dan

 On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:46 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Went back on Friday to the barn and yellow field. Nice sunny day with
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 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=972727

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Re: Causse Mejan

2010-07-04 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:

[...]


This is a 3.6 megabyte download:

 http://www.web-options.com/CausseMejan.tif 

Florac is a mediaeval village at its heart. What you see here are the


modern


bits on the outside. I am still sorting through the rest of the


pictures in


LR and will post a gallery in due causse...

Bob


I'd go ahead and crop all that black off the bottom and convert it to
JPEG so it would load faster.




I'll give that a go when I start working on the other panos.


Something odd gone on here.  At 3.6meg, I would expect much more detail 
but it pixellates the moment one applies any magnification.


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RE: PESO: Goldeneye

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
 I was walking along the Mississippi river at twilight when this little
 guy hopped across the path and then he just STOPPED.
 
 I popped the Tamron 90mm onto the K-7 and started snapping.. closer and
 closer... finally I'm right down on the ground with the lens about 8
 inches away from his face.  The sun had set so I was down to:
 
 ISO 800, f5.6, 1/4 second
 
 The darned thing has golden eyes!
 

The name's Pond. James Pond.


 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP2883.jpg
 
  -Charles




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Re: PESO: Goldeneye

2010-07-04 Thread drd1135
Nice shot. 
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I was walking along the Mississippi river at twilight when this little guy 
hopped across the path and then he just STOPPED.

I popped the Tamron 90mm onto the K-7 and started snapping.. closer and 
closer... finally I'm right down on the ground with the lens about 8 inches 
away from his face.  The sun had set so I was down to:

ISO 800, f5.6, 1/4 second

The darned thing has golden eyes!

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP2883.jpg

 -Charles

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Re: PESO: Goldeneye

2010-07-04 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 10:35:21 -0500
Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

 ISO 800, f5.6, 1/4 second
 
 The darned thing has golden eyes!
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP2883.jpg

lovely lovely shot.  nice to see a shot where the critter is not
groomed and coated in glycerin as well.


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Re: PESO: Goldeneye

2010-07-04 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 4, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bran Everseeking wrote:

 On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 10:35:21 -0500
 Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 
 ISO 800, f5.6, 1/4 second
 
 The darned thing has golden eyes!
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP2883.jpg
 
 lovely lovely shot.  nice to see a shot where the critter is not
 groomed and coated in glycerin as well.

That's a superb shot.  I can't see a single way to improve it.

 

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Re: PESO - St James Park

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It is indeed quite purdy.

I like the way the fence frames the left side of the image, and I
think the people add interest and scale, improving the shot.

Dan

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 St. James Park, London.  Just a purdy picture, though I actually spent a 
 while trying different compositions and waiting for people to be in the 
 right places.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11206012size=lg

 (K10D, DA 50-200)

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Re: PESO - Swans on the Wing

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great capture, Frank.

Dan

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 Didn't get many good photos from today's walk down at the lake (still
 working on a few, but I don't think they'll make the cut), but this
 one's not bad:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html

 I never realized that big old swans made so much noise when they fly;
 you can hear them coming from a mile away.  Taken with *istD/Tokina
 f2.8 80-200 manual focus.  I'm having lots of problems with the manual
 focus - by the time I'm focused and get the exposure (no A setting,
 so I'm on M with the green button), my subject inevitably moves on -
 at least the birds do.

 Anyway, hope you like this one.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

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Peso: Smokeys

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park.
It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain,
but it made the scenery very smokey.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174

Comments, advise, and criticism solicited...
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I am not bitching about any system.  I am only saying that I am
offended by the concept that anyone is superior to another person by
reason of birth.

If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights
that can't be taken away, then we legitimize the position of the
nobility who claim to be superior by birth to us commoners.   That
is just a short distance from saying that whites are superior to other
races by reason of birth, or that English are superior to Irish, or
that Japanese are superior to Koreans.   Belief in status or privilege
arising our of ancestry is anti-democratic, and creates artificial
barriers that divide people who should seek common cause.

Dan

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 Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

 There is a difference:  we elected the fools down there in DC.  We
 have only ourselves to blame.  We don't pay homage to someone merely
 because that person is a distant relative of the German House of
 Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.


 Whatever.
 Until your system works better than the ones you are bitching about, go take
 a flying fuck into your glass walls.
 Or, be as offended as you're white peasant ass wants to be, but piss off and
 shut the fuck up about it.

 William Robb

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread mike wilson

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I am not bitching about any system.  I am only saying that I am
offended by the concept that anyone is superior to another person by
reason of birth.

If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights
that can't be taken away, then we legitimize the position of the
nobility who claim to be superior by birth to us commoners.   That
is just a short distance from saying that whites are superior to other
races by reason of birth, or that English are superior to Irish, or
that Japanese are superior to Koreans.   Belief in status or privilege
arising our of ancestry is anti-democratic, and creates artificial
barriers that divide people who should seek common cause.


Sadly, many people are never happier than when they have found or 
created an artificial barrier to divide them from others.


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Re: Peso: Smokeys

2010-07-04 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 4, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park.
 It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain,
 but it made the scenery very smokey.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174

I particularly like 3769.


 
 Comments, advise, and criticism solicited...

It's probably the rain that makes them seem rather flat, I'd try to increase 
the contrast by bumping up the exposure a bit, then bumping up the black 
point, to increase the range of the final image.  I don't know if that would 
help, or hurt.


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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:25:51PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit:
 If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights
 that can't be taken away, 

No one says any such thing.

The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth.
(This is, for instance, why there is such a thing as the Succession
Act, or why it's widely acknowledged -- since Parliament has done it,
twice and a half (Headless Chuck, James the Fled, and Edward the
Abbreviated) -- that the elected Parliament can replace the monarch,
or, for that matter, why Her Majesty has publicly stated that if she's
presented with an act converting the UK into a republic, she'll sign
it.)

Supremacy of Parliament is a very real thing.

Which is not to say I'm not -- being of a somewhat egalitarian bent --
in favour of both a stronger monarchy and a selective one in Canada,
rather than one with the current hereditary succession, but the idea
that the English Monarchy came down on the side of Divine Right is
really laughable.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth.

Really?  And you believe that?  They just HAPPENED to pick the
daughter of the last King?  What an extraordinary coincidence!

Dan

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:25:51PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit:
 If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights
 that can't be taken away,

 No one says any such thing.

 The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth.
 (This is, for instance, why there is such a thing as the Succession
 Act, or why it's widely acknowledged -- since Parliament has done it,
 twice and a half (Headless Chuck, James the Fled, and Edward the
 Abbreviated) -- that the elected Parliament can replace the monarch,
 or, for that matter, why Her Majesty has publicly stated that if she's
 presented with an act converting the UK into a republic, she'll sign
 it.)

 Supremacy of Parliament is a very real thing.

 Which is not to say I'm not -- being of a somewhat egalitarian bent --
 in favour of both a stronger monarchy and a selective one in Canada,
 rather than one with the current hereditary succession, but the idea
 that the English Monarchy came down on the side of Divine Right is
 really laughable.

 -- Graydon

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RE: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
 I am not bitching about any system.  I am only saying that I am
 offended by the concept that anyone is superior to another person by
 reason of birth.
 
 If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights
 that can't be taken away, 

well we don't. We swept all that nonsense away when we cut Charles I's head off 
in 1649. 

Bob

 then we legitimize the position of the
 nobility who claim to be superior by birth to us commoners.   That
 is just a short distance from saying that whites are superior to other
 races by reason of birth, or that English are superior to Irish, or
 that Japanese are superior to Koreans.   Belief in status or privilege
 arising our of ancestry is anti-democratic, and creates artificial
 barriers that divide people who should seek common cause.
 
 Dan
 
 On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:40 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  --
  From: Daniel J. Matyola
  Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day
 
  There is a difference:  we elected the fools down there in DC.  We
  have only ourselves to blame.  We don't pay homage to someone merely
  because that person is a distant relative of the German House of
  Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
 
 
  Whatever.
  Until your system works better than the ones you are bitching about,
 go take
  a flying fuck into your glass walls.
  Or, be as offended as you're white peasant ass wants to be, but piss
 off and
  shut the fuck up about it.
 
  William Robb
 
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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/7/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

  That
is just a short distance from saying that ... that English are superior
to Irish


Oh well I mean come on !!!

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Love Creek

2010-07-04 Thread Larry Colen
A couple of days ago, I went for a bike ride up Love Creek, a couple of miles 
from my house.  Back in January of 1982, it was the scene of a fatal mudslide:
http://mindwrecker.blogspot.com/2009/02/ben-lomond-ca-love-creek-mudslide.html

I hadn't been up there in ages, and one of the things I found was a little 
monument to a couple of young boys that perished in the slide:
http://www.examiner.com/x-46441-Santa-Cruz-Mountains-Examiner~y2010m4d28-If-the-mountains-could-speak-Love-Creek-tragedy-leaves-legacy-of-love

I got a few decent photos of the creek and the monument, and a couple of blurry 
shots of some deer that I came across on my ride home:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624419996154/
comments on them are welcome, but this post is more about the interesting story 
than the photos. I think that this is probably my best photo of the set, even 
if it doesn't show all of the context:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4760540179/

When I was processing my photos, I was surprised to see how sharp this shot at 
1/2 second turned out, considering that I had neither tripod nor monopod. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4760536751/
It's truly amazing what image stabilization can do.  Here's a 100% crop of a 
section of the creek bed:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4760537023/

Shot with the 18-250 at 18mm, wide open at ISO 200 on the K-x.

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Re: Pentax gear...

2010-07-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/7/10, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://4models.info/images/0.en.png

Just fun, I use this image for model candidates without photos on file.

That's wheely good.

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Re: Pentax gear...

2010-07-04 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 4, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Cotty wrote:

 On 4/7/10, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 http://4models.info/images/0.en.png
 
 Just fun, I use this image for model candidates without photos on file.
 
 That's wheely good.

Cotty, that was a ...rimshot...  tired pun.

 

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Re: Pentax gear...

2010-07-04 Thread Brendan MacRae




- Original Message 
 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 12:56:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Pentax gear...
 
 
On Jul 4, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Cotty wrote:

 On 4/7/10, Roman 
 Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 
 http://4models.info/images/0.en.png
 
 Just fun, I use 
 this image for model candidates without photos on file.
 
 That's 
 wheely good.

Cotty, that was a ...rimshot...  tired pun.

MAGnificent!


  

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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-04 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jul 2, 2010, at 13:53 , John Sessoms wrote:

The K-10D and K-20D both allow you to set the on-board flash to  
trailing curtain sync. How difficult would it be for them to make  
the hot-shoe also fire on the trailing curtain when a non-dedicated  
flash is installed?


E.G. like with a radio-sync transmitter or Vivitar 285HV? Dedicated  
flash like the AF-540FGZ has its own circuitry to talk to the camera  
and can be set to trailing curtain sync.


Is this something they could do with a firmware update?

Or is it something that would require radical hardware revision?

For that matter what do the dedicated pins on the Pentax shoe tell  
the flash? I know what the big one in the center does, and it's  
obvious which one is ground.



Everything you need to know except the actual format and content of  
the digital signal and the mode format.


http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/hot-shoe/index.html

Here's a diagram of a circuit to isolate an old high voltage flash  
from the hot shoe about half way down the page. I know, you didn't  
ask, but, it can't hurt to have a copy on your hard drive!


http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/discuss/72157607929201242/

And the Hot Shoe and 5P cable pins, in case you wanted to know. Near  
bottom of page.


http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=28607959

Lots and lots of data about the Pentax AFxxxFGZ flashes compared to  
others manufacturers.


http://knol.google.com/k/pentax-p-ttl-hot-shoe-flash-comparison#

also a more technical tome:

http://www.jr-worldwi.de/photo/index.html?ist_DS_internalflash.html

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Re: Pentax gear...

2010-07-04 Thread Cotty

 http://4models.info/images/0.en.png
 

 That's 
 wheely good.

Cotty, that was a ...rimshot...  tired pun.

MAGnificent!

But an axle mess it up a bit.



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PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms
If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be private, 
visible only to family. The link below should make you all part of 
that family.


http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf

This is an example of the kind of work I'm having to do for school. This 
was one of my weeklies, rated 4 out of a possible 5 by the instructor. 
It's the best grade I've gotten so far in the class.


The people are lit with a Vivitar 285HV balanced with the ambient light 
on the field. In fact, if you look on the right hand side, you can see 
the strobe head.


I'll take it down next week when I get home and back to my email.

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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 4, 2010, at 1:47 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be private, visible 
 only to family. The link below should make you all part of that family.
 
 http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf

Didn't work:
This photo is private.

Oops! You don't have permission to view this photo.

 
 This is an example of the kind of work I'm having to do for school. This was 
 one of my weeklies, rated 4 out of a possible 5 by the instructor. It's the 
 best grade I've gotten so far in the class.
 
 The people are lit with a Vivitar 285HV balanced with the ambient light on 
 the field. In fact, if you look on the right hand side, you can see the 
 strobe head.
 
 I'll take it down next week when I get home and back to my email.
 
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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread Joseph McAllister
Even though I already have one, and signed in, it wanted me to create  
another account. FAIL!  :-)


On Jul 4, 2010, at 13:47 , John Sessoms wrote:

If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be private,  
visible only to family. The link below should make you all part of  
that family.


http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf


Joseph McAllister
Pentaxian

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 03:14:23PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit:
 The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth.
 
 Really?  And you believe that?  They just HAPPENED to pick the
 daughter of the last King?  What an extraordinary coincidence!

If Parliament says she stops being Queen, she stops being Queen.  This
happened to her Uncle Edward.  It could certainly happen to her and if
the general run of the British public weren't generally of a mind to see
Princess Di's kids get the throne it might well have.

Way back -- in the days of Alfred born in Wantage, way back -- being
king rested on three things; divine approval, the consent of the
governed, and descent.  In France -- where about the same thing, for
about the same reasons -- held true at that time, divine favour and
descent won out, and you eventually wind up at the Terror after some
really extremely statistically improbable runs of male primogeniture.

In England, up until German George, you get something like half of the
kings (and Queen) being the son or grandson of the previous king; you
get a remarkable lack of associated piety, cult sites, and so on (mostly
due to Devil Henry, Henry II; not only did he have turbulent priest
issues, it appears absolutely no one was capable of believing in his
personal piety in any way, nor that of his sons, and by the time that
was done with it was a remarkably secular monarchy) and you *do* get the
consent of the governed, in the form of the approval of Parliament,
becoming the one thing that matters.  (If Parliament sets the crown on
a stook, I will fight for the stook, and that's from the time of Henry
VII, fifteenth century.)

The remarkably good order since Victoria is mostly just a side effect of
the idea of not giving the constitutional monarchy any real power beyond
moral suasion reducing the political focus on the office.

-- Graydon

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Daniel J. Matyola

I am not bitching about any system.  I am only saying that I am
offended by the concept that anyone is superior to another person by
reason of birth.

If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights
that can't be taken away, then we legitimize the position of the
nobility who claim to be superior by birth to us commoners.   That
is just a short distance from saying that whites are superior to other
races by reason of birth, or that English are superior to Irish, or
that Japanese are superior to Koreans.   Belief in status or privilege
arising our of ancestry is anti-democratic, and creates artificial
barriers that divide people who should seek common cause.

Dan


The only flaw I see is the supposition that inherited wealth and 
position are a claim of inherited superiority.


No democracy is perfect. The British and Canadian versions have more 
flaws than an idealized, perfect democracy, but fewer flaws than some 
other actual implementations.


Seems to me it's a workable way of choosing a titular head of state, 
i.e. who represents the nation ... as opposed to who governs the nation.


As I understand it, the Queen has little actual power, merely some 
formal prerogatives. I understand the Queen appoints a Governor General 
for Canada, but I believe she appoints whoever the Prime Minister of 
Canada recommends.


And that the Governor General approves legislation from the Canadian 
Parliament in the Queen's name.


But does the Governor General have absolute veto power? What happens if 
the Governor General declines to approve legislation?


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Re: PESO: Goldeneye

2010-07-04 Thread Madame RD

Le 04/07/10 20:00, Larry Colen a écrit :


On Jul 4, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bran Everseeking wrote:

   

On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 10:35:21 -0500
Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com  wrote:

 

ISO 800, f5.6, 1/4 second

The darned thing has golden eyes!

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP2883.jpg
   

lovely lovely shot.  nice to see a shot where the critter is not
groomed and coated in glycerin as well.
 

That's a superb shot.  I can't see a single way to improve it.

   


incredible picture !!!   did you ask the critter  for an address ? . 
he/she 's got a future in photography ..  I can't believe it didnt 
budge.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms
It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales, 
Charles Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act himself.


He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman 
Catholic. (Three strikes.)


Just being the first born son of the current monarch isn't enough to put 
him on the throne. Charles doesn't inherit unless he can convince 
Parliament to say he can inherit, which from this distance appears less 
and less likely. There's a very real chance the succession will skip 
over Charles to his eldest son because he will not get the consent of 
Parliament.


You also might consider how the last king ended up on the throne, as 
he was not first in the line of succession when his father died.


Hint: Wallace Simpson was also a divorcee and a Roman Catholic.



From: Daniel J. Matyola

The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth.

Really?  And you believe that?  They just HAPPENED to pick the
daughter of the last King?  What an extraordinary coincidence!

Dan

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:25:51PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit:

 If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights
 that can't be taken away,


 No one says any such thing.

 The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth.
 (This is, for instance, why there is such a thing as the Succession
 Act, or why it's widely acknowledged -- since Parliament has done it,
 twice and a half (Headless Chuck, James the Fled, and Edward the
 Abbreviated) -- that the elected Parliament can replace the monarch,
 or, for that matter, why Her Majesty has publicly stated that if she's
 presented with an act converting the UK into a republic, she'll sign
 it.)

 Supremacy of Parliament is a very real thing.

 Which is not to say I'm not -- being of a somewhat egalitarian bent --
 in favour of both a stronger monarchy and a selective one in Canada,
 rather than one with the current hereditary succession, but the idea
 that the English Monarchy came down on the side of Divine Right is
 really laughable.



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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread Madame RD

Le 04/07/10 22:47, John Sessoms a écrit :


If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be private, 
visible only to family.


well , it seems I'm not family ...

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Re: Peso: Smokeys

2010-07-04 Thread Madame RD

Le 04/07/10 20:25, Bob Sullivan a écrit :

Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park.
It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain,
but it made the scenery very smokey.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174

Comments, advise, and criticism solicited...
Regards,  Bob S.

   
Im not too keen on mountain pictures ... except when they're drowned in 
mist !
 nr 2 is my favorite  ...   the mottled grey of the mist adds mystery 
to it .


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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On Jul 4, 2010, at 1:47 PM, John Sessoms wrote:


 If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be private, visible only to 
family. The link below should make you all part of that family.
 
 http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf


Didn't work:
This photo is private.

Oops! You don't have permission to view this photo.



Thanks.

According to Flickr, using that link should have given you a guest pass 
to view the private image.


I just changed it to public. Try this one and let me know if it works:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4761754890/


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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Joseph McAllister
Even though I already have one, and signed in, it wanted me to create  
another account. FAIL!   :-) 


On Jul 4, 2010, at 13:47 , John Sessoms wrote:

 If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be private,  
 visible only to family. The link below should make you all part of  
 that family.


 http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf


Thanks for the feedback. Apparently I *DON'T* understand how Flickr works.

I just changed it to public.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4761754890/

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Re: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-04 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 3, 2010, at 1:56 AM, Bob W wrote:

 All my FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds bodies allow me to enable
 second curtain sync any time I want, with any flash. IIRC, both my
 Sony R1 and my Canon 10D allowed the same.
 
 The algorithm is very simple: the flash is triggered about 300ms
 before the second curtain is released. So it obviously works best with
 exposure times of a half second or longer, but then that's when I'd
 use second curtain sync anyway.
 
 
 I've found it most effective for my taste at 1/15th second, generally when
 there's already quite a lot of ambient light in the scene. These pictures
 from midsummer a few years ago are my most successful and (I think)
 effective efforts, shot at 1/15th. All shot with an Oly E-1 and Oly flash of
 some sort.
 
 Start here, and click through about 8 snaps:
 http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6207819_large.html

Interesting juxtaposition of Morris dancers and this:
http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6217916_large.html

I can't quite figure out what's going on there such that there are lights in 
the shadow ring of one of the hula hoops.

 
 
 
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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 4, 2010, at 2:42 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Joseph McAllister
 Even though I already have one, and signed in, it wanted me to create  
 another account. FAIL!   :-) On Jul 4, 2010, at 13:47 , John Sessoms wrote:
  If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be private,   
  visible only to family. The link below should make you all part of   
  that family.
 
  http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf
 
 Thanks for the feedback. Apparently I *DON'T* understand how Flickr works.
 
 I just changed it to public.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4761754890/

Whoa!  Awesome shot!  That's one for the annual.

 
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RE: Thoughts on Trailing Curtain Sync

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
 
  Start here, and click through about 8 snaps:
  http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6207819_large.html
 
 Interesting juxtaposition of Morris dancers and this:
 http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6217916_large.html
 

it's all a continuum

 I can't quite figure out what's going on there such that there are
 lights in the shadow ring of one of the hula hoops.
 

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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/7/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf

This is an example of the kind of work I'm having to do for school. This
was one of my weeklies, rated 4 out of a possible 5 by the instructor.
It's the best grade I've gotten so far in the class.

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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread Joseph McAllister

Nice light balance, John. A warm and comfortable photo.


On Jul 4, 2010, at 14:40 , John Sessoms wrote:

According to Flickr, using that link should have given you a guest  
pass to view the private image.


I just changed it to public. Try this one and let me know if it works:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4761754890/


If it doesn’t excite you,
This thing that you see,
Why in the world,
Would it excite me?
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PAW25 - red line

2010-07-04 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
K20D, DA55mm, 1/90s, f/5.6, ISO200

The previous PAWs are here:
http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Joseph McAllister
Me thinks she should turn herself over to some of the NY fashionistas  
for a make-over!



On Jul 4, 2010, at 03:06 , Bob W wrote:


She's on her way to New York soon, where I believe she has substantial
property holdings. Perhaps you should have a word with her.

She is very self-sacrificing. Look how she goes out of her way here  
to make
her hosts feel better about their silly hats, by wearing even  
sillier ones:


 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10500737.stm 


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RE: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
 It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales,
 Charles Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act
 himself.
 
 He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman
 Catholic. (Three strikes.)
 

nobody gives a shit about that sort of thing any more.

 Just being the first born son of the current monarch isn't enough to
 put
 him on the throne. Charles doesn't inherit unless he can convince
 Parliament to say he can inherit, which from this distance appears less
 and less likely. There's a very real chance the succession will skip
 over Charles to his eldest son because he will not get the consent of
 Parliament.
 

Nobody in Parliament gives a flying fuck. The only people who care are the
editors of supermarket magazines who think this sort of rubbish increases
sales to Daily Express and Daily Mail readers.

 You also might consider how the last king ended up on the throne, as
 he was not first in the line of succession when his father died.
 
 Hint: Wallace Simpson was also a divorcee and a Roman Catholic.

nobody gave a shit about that. What counted against her was being American.
It was 80 years ago. Do you really think people in Britain still have those
sort of views? There are probably about 16 people in Britain who care about
the religion and divorced status of the royal family, and they're all over
110 and living in secure accommodation. Prince Charles could divorce Camilla
and marry a gay Muslim leper from Somalia and nobody would give a toss or
think it should affect whether he becomes king. In fact, we'd probably
celebrate his diversity awareness. 

What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't
concern him.

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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:50:08 -0700
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

  Thanks for the feedback. Apparently I *DON'T* understand how Flickr
  works.
  
  I just changed it to public.
  
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4761754890/
 
 Whoa!  Awesome shot!  That's one for the annual.


magnificent image.  even inspires me to consider baseball.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread paul stenquist

On Jul 4, 2010, at 5:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales, Charles 
 Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act himself.
 
 He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman 
 Catholic. (Three strikes.)
 
 Just being the first born son of the current monarch isn't enough to put him 
 on the throne. Charles doesn't inherit unless he can convince Parliament to 
 say he can inherit, which from this distance appears less and less likely. 
 There's a very real chance the succession will skip over Charles to his 
 eldest son because he will not get the consent of Parliament.
 
 You also might consider how the last king ended up on the throne, as he was 
 not first in the line of succession when his father died.
 
 Hint: Wallace Simpson was also a divorcee and a Roman Catholic.
 

If those factors are really relevant, it's all the more damning, isn't it? What 
if she were black? Horrors!
Paul
 
 
 From: Daniel J. Matyola
 The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth.
 Really?  And you believe that?  They just HAPPENED to pick the
 daughter of the last King?  What an extraordinary coincidence!
 Dan
 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:
  On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:25:51PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit:
  If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights
  that can't be taken away,
 
  No one says any such thing.
 
  The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth.
  (This is, for instance, why there is such a thing as the Succession
  Act, or why it's widely acknowledged -- since Parliament has done it,
  twice and a half (Headless Chuck, James the Fled, and Edward the
  Abbreviated) -- that the elected Parliament can replace the monarch,
  or, for that matter, why Her Majesty has publicly stated that if she's
  presented with an act converting the UK into a republic, she'll sign
  it.)
 
  Supremacy of Parliament is a very real thing.
 
  Which is not to say I'm not -- being of a somewhat egalitarian bent --
  in favour of both a stronger monarchy and a selective one in Canada,
  rather than one with the current hereditary succession, but the idea
  that the English Monarchy came down on the side of Divine Right is
  really laughable.
 
 
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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/7/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

nobody gave a shit about that. What counted against her was being American.
It was 80 years ago. Do you really think people in Britain still have those
sort of views? There are probably about 16 people in Britain who care about
the religion and divorced status of the royal family, and they're all over
110 and living in secure accommodation. Prince Charles could divorce Camilla
and marry a gay Muslim leper from Somalia and nobody would give a toss or
think it should affect whether he becomes king. In fact, we'd probably
celebrate his diversity awareness.

The sad reality is that this is not the case. I walk into scenarios
every day that convince me otherwise - really - believe me!

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Re: Love Creek

2010-07-04 Thread Jack Davis
Interesting area with a lot of texture very well caught. Cool and inviting 
considering today's 100F in the Sacramento Valley.

Jack

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 A couple of days ago, I went for a
 bike ride up Love Creek, a couple of miles from my
 house.  Back in January of 1982, it was the scene of a
 fatal mudslide:
 http://mindwrecker.blogspot.com/2009/02/ben-lomond-ca-love-creek-mudslide.html
 
 I hadn't been up there in ages, and one of the things I
 found was a little monument to a couple of young boys that
 perished in the slide:
 http://www.examiner.com/x-46441-Santa-Cruz-Mountains-Examiner~y2010m4d28-If-the-mountains-could-speak-Love-Creek-tragedy-leaves-legacy-of-love
 
 I got a few decent photos of the creek and the monument,
 and a couple of blurry shots of some deer that I came across
 on my ride home:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624419996154/
 comments on them are welcome, but this post is more about
 the interesting story than the photos. I think that this is
 probably my best photo of the set, even if it doesn't show
 all of the context:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4760540179/
 
 When I was processing my photos, I was surprised to see how
 sharp this shot at 1/2 second turned out, considering that I
 had neither tripod nor monopod. 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4760536751/
 It's truly amazing what image stabilization can do. 
 Here's a 100% crop of a section of the creek bed:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4760537023/
 
 Shot with the 18-250 at 18mm, wide open at ISO 200 on the
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Re: Pentax gear...

2010-07-04 Thread Jack Davis
So many pun-chures.

Jack

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 Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:53 PM
 On 4/7/10, Roman Melihhov,
 discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 http://4models.info/images/0.en.png
 
 Just fun, I use this image for model candidates without
 photos on file.
 
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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread Jack Davis
Unique angle and lighting.

Jack

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 Subject: PESO: A baseball photo
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 1:47 PM
 If I understand how Flickr works,
 this photo should be private, visible only to family.
 The link below should make you all part of that family.
 
 http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf
 
 This is an example of the kind of work I'm having to do for
 school. This was one of my weeklies, rated 4 out of a
 possible 5 by the instructor. It's the best grade I've
 gotten so far in the class.
 
 The people are lit with a Vivitar 285HV balanced with the
 ambient light on the field. In fact, if you look on the
 right hand side, you can see the strobe head.
 
 I'll take it down next week when I get home and back to my
 email.
 
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PESO - Reverse Psychology?

2010-07-04 Thread frank theriault
I wonder if it works:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html

;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?

2010-07-04 Thread Jack Davis
Mine is only about 90% with no notice. ;)

Jack

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 Subject: PESO - Reverse Psychology?
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 Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 3:44 PM
 I wonder if it works:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html
 
 ;-)
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
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Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Did you check to see if the box had a bottom?

Dan

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder if it works:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html

 ;-)

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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wonderful sunset!  The angle of view makes the viewer feel like a
member of the crowd.  Very nicely done.

Dan

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 If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be private, visible
 only to family. The link below should make you all part of that family.

 http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf

 This is an example of the kind of work I'm having to do for school. This was
 one of my weeklies, rated 4 out of a possible 5 by the instructor. It's
 the best grade I've gotten so far in the class.

 The people are lit with a Vivitar 285HV balanced with the ambient light on
 the field. In fact, if you look on the right hand side, you can see the
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 I'll take it down next week when I get home and back to my email.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
No you didn't.  You just imported some German aristocrats to take his place.

Dan

 well we don't. We swept all that nonsense away when we cut Charles I's head 
 off in 1649.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Do the English really want Prince Charles for their king?

Dan

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:35 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Jul 4, 2010, at 5:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales, Charles 
 Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act himself.

 He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman 
 Catholic. (Three strikes.)

 Just being the first born son of the current monarch isn't enough to put him 
 on the throne. Charles doesn't inherit unless he can convince Parliament to 
 say he can inherit, which from this distance appears less and less likely. 
 There's a very real chance the succession will skip over Charles to his 
 eldest son because he will not get the consent of Parliament.

 You also might consider how the last king ended up on the throne, as he 
 was not first in the line of succession when his father died.

 Hint: Wallace Simpson was also a divorcee and a Roman Catholic.


 If those factors are really relevant, it's all the more damning, isn't it? 
 What if she were black? Horrors!
 Paul


 From: Daniel J. Matyola
 The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth.
 Really?  And you believe that?  They just HAPPENED to pick the
 daughter of the last King?  What an extraordinary coincidence!
 Dan
 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:
  On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:25:51PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola scripsit:
  If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights
  that can't be taken away,
 
  No one says any such thing.
 
  The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of birth.
  (This is, for instance, why there is such a thing as the Succession
  Act, or why it's widely acknowledged -- since Parliament has done it,
  twice and a half (Headless Chuck, James the Fled, and Edward the
  Abbreviated) -- that the elected Parliament can replace the monarch,
  or, for that matter, why Her Majesty has publicly stated that if she's
  presented with an act converting the UK into a republic, she'll sign
  it.)
 
  Supremacy of Parliament is a very real thing.
 
  Which is not to say I'm not -- being of a somewhat egalitarian bent --
  in favour of both a stronger monarchy and a selective one in Canada,
  rather than one with the current hereditary succession, but the idea
  that the English Monarchy came down on the side of Divine Right is
  really laughable.


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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread William Robb


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I am not bitching about any system.  I am only saying that I am
offended by the concept that anyone is superior to another person by
reason of birth.

If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and has rights
that can't be taken away, then we legitimize the position of the
nobility who claim to be superior by birth to us commoners.   That
is just a short distance from saying that whites are superior to other
races by reason of birth, or that English are superior to Irish, or
that Japanese are superior to Koreans.   Belief in status or privilege
arising our of ancestry is anti-democratic, and creates artificial
barriers that divide people who should seek common cause.


We already have a system that says that some people are superior to to 
others, I think more so in the USA than most other places.
Money buys privilege and in your system gives the wealthy a lot of 
advantages. Think access to health care as an example.

If your rich, your golden, if your poor, your pretty much screwed.
Now, one could argue that the rich are more deserving because in theory they 
work harder or are smarter, but if you truly believe in equality, then it 
should no more matter that your daddy's last name is Hilton than that your 
daddy was a king.
But, being born to a wealthy person is guaranteed to give you advantages to 
being born to someone with no money.


Think same shit, different pile.

Consider that royalty knows that at some point they are going to lead their 
people, and should be spending a lot of time learning how to be a good 
leader.
In a political system, you just need money and power will come to you, 
whether you are fit to lead or not.
Think of your last several presidents, particularly your last one as a prime 
example of someone who was unfit to lead, but was made into a leader anyway.


Quite honestly, I am far prouder of our recent Governor General, and would 
much rather have her as Canada's representative on the world stage than that 
slimy little bastard that is our present Prime Minister.


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PESO: Painted Desert Black Bird

2010-07-04 Thread Jerry in Arizona
Took this while touring the Painted Desert a couple of years ago.  Came across 
it reviewing old files and remembered the issue here if a black bird was a crow 
or whatever.  Don't remember which camera I was using at the time.

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Crow_1043b.jpg

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Re: PESO: Painted Desert Black Bird

2010-07-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Jerry in Arizona wrote:

Took this while touring the Painted Desert a couple of years ago.  Came across 
it reviewing old files and remembered the issue here if a black bird was a crow 
or whatever.  Don't remember which camera I was using at the time.

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Crow_1043b.jpg

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Jerry -
that is not a crow you got there   that is a raven... raven's are 
vastly superior birds :-) also, considerably larger.  
it might even be my friend, Sam...


Or his offspring...  I'm not sure how long Raven's live, actually...

I bet he was begging for treats.

I wrote this tribute a few years ago  and a link to one of my snaps of 
him follows:


Just feel like sharing it...

  THE RAVEN AT BLUE MESA


   There were two of them by the
   Dangerous Cliffs sign.  One
   Fled with a scolding bwaawk
   As I approached.  The other,
   Eyeing me askance, lingered
   No more than four yards off.

   I circled nearer, camera ready,
   Filling the frame with him
   (Or her - hard telling ravens)
   Easily at 200mm.  A passer-by
   Said he'd never seen one so
   Close-up before; nor had I.

   So obliging a bird deserved
   A fee and knew it.  Click.
   All right, you beggar, here's
   A cracker.  A cracker a click.
   Delicately he plucked it up
   And danced a bit away with it.

   With time enough and patience
   My out-stretched hand could
   Have become his table but
   Conscience forbade me to
   Engender that much trust.
   (Though I longed to try it.)

  With time enough and patience
   My out-stretched hand could
   Have become his table but
   Conscience forbade me to
   Engender that much trust.
   (Though I longed to try it.)

   Some twenty-odd frames and
   Almost as many crackers later,
   I climbed back into the car.
   Bwaawk quoth the raven as I
   Closed the door.  Bwaawk,
   I replied as he glided away.

 **
Here is the link to the photo I took of him about 20 years ago... (it's 
in my book of poems next to the verse)


http://tinyurl.com/35thplo
http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/The-Part-of-Fortune/9005989_LjgKh/1/599047161_yycsh/Medium

I would be soo cool if that was my Sam...  if you took it at Blue Mesa 
its possible... they are very territorial .


have a nice 4th

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Re: ( corrected ) post of ann's replying to - PESO: Painted Desert Black Bird

2010-07-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Jerry in Arizona wrote:

Took this while touring the Painted Desert a couple of years ago.  
Came across it reviewing old files and remembered the issue here if a 
black bird was a crow or whatever.  Don't remember which camera I was 
using at the time.


http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Crow_1043b.jpg

___
Jerry -
that is not a crow you got there   that is a raven... raven's are 
vastly superior birds :-) also, considerably larger.  it might even be 
my friend, Sam...


Or his offspring...  I'm not sure how long Raven's live, actually...

I bet he was begging for treats.

I wrote this tribute a few years ago  and a link to one of my snaps of 
him follows:


Just feel like sharing it...

  THE RAVEN AT BLUE MESA


   There were two of them by the
   Dangerous Cliffs sign.  One
   Fled with a scolding bwaawk
   As I approached.  The other,
   Eyeing me askance, lingered
   No more than four yards off.

   I circled nearer, camera ready,
   Filling the frame with him
   (Or her - hard telling ravens)
   Easily at 200mm.  A passer-by
   Said he'd never seen one so
   Close-up before; nor had I.

   So obliging a bird deserved
   A fee and knew it.  Click.
   All right, you beggar, here's
   A cracker.  A cracker a click.
   Delicately he plucked it up
   And danced a bit away with it.

   With time enough and patience
   My out-stretched hand could
   Have become his table but
   Conscience forbade me to
   Engender that much trust.
   (Though I longed to try it.)

Some twenty-odd frames and
   Almost as many crackers later,
   I climbed back into the car.
   Bwaawk quoth the raven as I
   Closed the door.  Bwaawk,
   I replied as he glided away.

 **
Here is the link to the photo I took of him about 20 years ago... 
(it's in my book of poems next to the verse)


http://tinyurl.com/35thplo
http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/The-Part-of-Fortune/9005989_LjgKh/1/599047161_yycsh/Medium 



I would be soo cool if that was my Sam...  if you took it at Blue Mesa 
its possible... they are very territorial .


have a nice 4th

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OT Need advice - My bike was stolen

2010-07-04 Thread John Celio
My bicycle, which was my only mode of transportation, was stolen this 
morning.  It was locked up in front of my condo and they cut the locks like 
they were made of celery.  This completely ruined my 4th of July, but more 
importantly it's a whole lot of money that suddenly needs to be spent to get 
back to where I was.  Money I don't have.  My bike was practically brand new 
(maybe two months old?) and I'd put a bunch of accessories on it, and now I 
have nothing.


I've done a few things so far to try to get it back.
1. Filed a police report.
2. Called everyone I know in the area and asked them to keep an eye out for 
it. They all know what my bike looks like.

3. Called my HOA to check the security cameras.
4. Posted a Lost/Found ad on Craigslist 
(http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/laf/1825621864.html) and I will be checking 
there every day to see if someone tries to sell it.

5. Drank four beers and ate a bunch of ice cream while trying to stay calm.

Is there anything else I can do?  Do credit card companies help with these 
sorts of things?  I don't have a serial number or photos of my actual bike, 
which I realize was stupid but I'd been locking bikes the exact same way for 
seven years here and just never thought this would happen.  You don't have 
to tell me this was stupid, I know it was.


Fortunately my upstairs neighbors had a spare mountain bike I'm borrowing to 
get to work for a while, but since they don't have a lock and all the bike 
stores are closed, I can't go anywhere tonight.  No fireworks for me. :(


John

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Consider that royalty knows that at some point they are going to lead
their people, and should be spending a lot of time learning how to be
a good leader.

So, is that what Prince Charles has been doing for all these years?

Yes, money buys influence, but it does that in England as easily as in
the US.  So, in a monarchy, one has two systems of privilege instead
of just one.  How is that better?

My ancestors fled an aristocratic monarchy for a place where their
descendants could could be free of the class prejudice they faced in
Europe.  I am proud of that, and I resent any system that claims
certain members of society are better than others simply by accident
of birth.

Dan

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 We already have a system that says that some people are superior to to
 others, I think more so in the USA than most other places.
 Money buys privilege and in your system gives the wealthy a lot of
 advantages. Think access to health care as an example.
 If your rich, your golden, if your poor, your pretty much screwed.
 Now, one could argue that the rich are more deserving because in theory they
 work harder or are smarter, but if you truly believe in equality, then it
 should no more matter that your daddy's last name is Hilton than that your
 daddy was a king.
 But, being born to a wealthy person is guaranteed to give you advantages to
 being born to someone with no money.

 Think same shit, different pile.

 Consider that royalty knows that at some point they are going to lead their
 people, and should be spending a lot of time learning how to be a good
 leader.
 In a political system, you just need money and power will come to you,
 whether you are fit to lead or not.
 Think of your last several presidents, particularly your last one as a prime
 example of someone who was unfit to lead, but was made into a leader anyway.

 Quite honestly, I am far prouder of our recent Governor General, and would
 much rather have her as Canada's representative on the world stage than that
 slimy little bastard that is our present Prime Minister.

 William Robb

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Re: PAW25 - red line

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
For me, Dag, this image doesn't have the power or interest that all of
your other PAWs and PESOs have.

Dan

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:08 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
 K20D, DA55mm, 1/90s, f/5.6, ISO200

 The previous PAWs are here:
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html

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Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen

2010-07-04 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-07-04 21:13, John Celio wrote:


Do credit card companies help with
these sorts of things?


If you bought it with a credit card, you might be covered on it by 
purchase insurance.  In addition, if you have renter's or homeowner's 
insurance, that may apply, too.


Sorry for your rotten luck.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread William Robb


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My ancestors fled an aristocratic monarchy for a place where their
descendants could could be free of the class prejudice they faced in
Europe.  I am proud of that, and I resent any system that claims
certain members of society are better than others simply by accident
of birth.


Yup, and they came to a country whose economy was built on slave labour and 
until fairly recently, had racial segregation legally entrenched in it's 
system.
IOW, they fled one system of class prejudice for one where they would fit 
into the ruling class a bit better, being white and all.
Your ancestors were, perhaps, not as pious and sanctimonious as you make 
them out to be.
Anyway, as I mentioned earlier, your attack on the political system of other 
countries when the one you live in is as fucked up as anywhere other than 
the ones it has actively fucked up is ludicrous and ironic to the point of 
absurdity.
And, by pushing your unwelcome views repeatedly, you are showing that 
arrogance and contempt that makes Americans of your ilk so popular 
throughout the world.

Goodbye Dan, you are going places where few on this list have gone before.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yup, and they came to a country whose economy was built on slave
labour and until fairly recently, had racial segregation legally
entrenched in it's system.

And, of course, it was our English colonial masters who established
that system of slavery to develop their royal colonies here.  Then
English monarch has created havoc and devastation all over the world.
A good summary can be found here:

http://www.amazon.com/Evil-Empire-England-Ruined-World/dp/1594741735

Dan

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 From: Daniel J. Matyola
 Subject: Re: OT: Happy Canada Day


 My ancestors fled an aristocratic monarchy for a place where their
 descendants could could be free of the class prejudice they faced in
 Europe.  I am proud of that, and I resent any system that claims
 certain members of society are better than others simply by accident
 of birth.

 Yup, and they came to a country whose economy was built on slave labour and
 until fairly recently, had racial segregation legally entrenched in it's
 system.
 IOW, they fled one system of class prejudice for one where they would fit
 into the ruling class a bit better, being white and all.
 Your ancestors were, perhaps, not as pious and sanctimonious as you make
 them out to be.
 Anyway, as I mentioned earlier, your attack on the political system of other
 countries when the one you live in is as fucked up as anywhere other than
 the ones it has actively fucked up is ludicrous and ironic to the point of
 absurdity.
 And, by pushing your unwelcome views repeatedly, you are showing that
 arrogance and contempt that makes Americans of your ilk so popular
 throughout the world.
 Goodbye Dan, you are going places where few on this list have gone before.

 William Robb

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PESO - Incoming

2010-07-04 Thread frank theriault
Not as sharp as I might like, but I'm still pretty damned happy with it:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/incoming.html

With the Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 macro manual focus.

Hope you like.  Comments welcome.

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RE: PESO: Painted Desert Black Bird

2010-07-04 Thread Jerry in Arizona
Thanks for the clarification Ann, I named it Crow cuz I just didn't know what 
else to call it.

I believe it was take at the rest area at Crystal Forest, but certainly not far 
from Blue Mesa.  Maybe one of Sam's offspring.




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Jerry in Arizona wrote:

Took this while touring the Painted Desert a couple of years ago.  Came across 
it reviewing old files and remembered the issue here if a black bird was a crow 
or whatever.  Don't remember which camera I was using at the time.

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Crow_1043b.jpg

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Jerry -
that is not a crow you got there   that is a raven... raven's are 
vastly superior birds :-) also, considerably larger.  
it might even be my friend, Sam...

Or his offspring...  I'm not sure how long Raven's live, actually...

I bet he was begging for treats.

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RE: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
It doesn't make any difference who we have as king. It could be Shirley 
Bassey's hairdresser for all it matters. It's just a figurehead position. 
Besides, if there's to be a monarch at all, what's wrong with Prince Charles? 
He's a harmless old sod, by and large, and should keep his nose out of 
architectural matters, but there's nothing fundamentally wrong with him as an 
individual.

Bob

 
 Do the English really want Prince Charles for their king?
 
 Dan
 
 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:35 PM, paul stenquist
 pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  On Jul 4, 2010, at 5:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
 
  It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales,
 Charles Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act
 himself.
 
  He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman
 Catholic. (Three strikes.)
 
  Just being the first born son of the current monarch isn't enough to
 put him on the throne. Charles doesn't inherit unless he can convince
 Parliament to say he can inherit, which from this distance appears less
 and less likely. There's a very real chance the succession will skip
 over Charles to his eldest son because he will not get the consent of
 Parliament.
 
  You also might consider how the last king ended up on the throne,
 as he was not first in the line of succession when his father died.
 
  Hint: Wallace Simpson was also a divorcee and a Roman Catholic.
 
 
  If those factors are really relevant, it's all the more damning,
 isn't it? What if she were black? Horrors!
  Paul
 
 
  From: Daniel J. Matyola
  The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of
 birth.
  Really?  And you believe that?  They just HAPPENED to pick the
  daughter of the last King?  What an extraordinary coincidence!
  Dan
  On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:
   On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:25:51PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola
 scripsit:
   If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and
 has rights
   that can't be taken away,
  
   No one says any such thing.
  
   The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of
 birth.
   (This is, for instance, why there is such a thing as the
 Succession
   Act, or why it's widely acknowledged -- since Parliament has
 done it,
   twice and a half (Headless Chuck, James the Fled, and Edward the
   Abbreviated) -- that the elected Parliament can replace the
 monarch,
   or, for that matter, why Her Majesty has publicly stated that if
 she's
   presented with an act converting the UK into a republic, she'll
 sign
   it.)
  
   Supremacy of Parliament is a very real thing.
  
   Which is not to say I'm not -- being of a somewhat egalitarian
 bent --
   in favour of both a stronger monarchy and a selective one in
 Canada,
   rather than one with the current hereditary succession, but the
 idea
   that the English Monarchy came down on the side of Divine Right
 is
   really laughable.
 
 
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Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?

2010-07-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Well I do enjoy, thank you!

funny

ann

frank theriault wrote:


I wonder if it works:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html

;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread paul stenquist

On Jul 4, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Bob W wrote:

 It doesn't make any difference who we have as king. It could be Shirley 
 Bassey's hairdresser for all it matters. It's just a figurehead position. 
 Besides, if there's to be a monarch at all, what's wrong with Prince Charles? 
 He's a harmless old sod, by and large, and should keep his nose out of 
 architectural matters, but there's nothing fundamentally wrong with him as an 
 individual.
 
I find him somewhat humorous. Certainly no harm in that. And I had to admire 
him for finally going with his heart and making Camille his wife. Men have done 
worse.
Paul


 Bob
 
 
 Do the English really want Prince Charles for their king?
 
 Dan
 
 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:35 PM, paul stenquist
 pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 On Jul 4, 2010, at 5:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of Wales,
 Charles Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the Succession Act
 himself.
 
 He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former] Roman
 Catholic. (Three strikes.)
 
 Just being the first born son of the current monarch isn't enough to
 put him on the throne. Charles doesn't inherit unless he can convince
 Parliament to say he can inherit, which from this distance appears less
 and less likely. There's a very real chance the succession will skip
 over Charles to his eldest son because he will not get the consent of
 Parliament.
 
 You also might consider how the last king ended up on the throne,
 as he was not first in the line of succession when his father died.
 
 Hint: Wallace Simpson was also a divorcee and a Roman Catholic.
 
 
 If those factors are really relevant, it's all the more damning,
 isn't it? What if she were black? Horrors!
 Paul
 
 
 From: Daniel J. Matyola
 The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of
 birth.
 Really?  And you believe that?  They just HAPPENED to pick the
 daughter of the last King?  What an extraordinary coincidence!
 Dan
 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:25:51PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola
 scripsit:
 If we say that the Queen is superior by reason of birth and
 has rights
 that can't be taken away,
 
 No one says any such thing.
 
 The Queen is the Queen by right of Parliament, _not_ right of
 birth.
 (This is, for instance, why there is such a thing as the
 Succession
 Act, or why it's widely acknowledged -- since Parliament has
 done it,
 twice and a half (Headless Chuck, James the Fled, and Edward the
 Abbreviated) -- that the elected Parliament can replace the
 monarch,
 or, for that matter, why Her Majesty has publicly stated that if
 she's
 presented with an act converting the UK into a republic, she'll
 sign
 it.)
 
 Supremacy of Parliament is a very real thing.
 
 Which is not to say I'm not -- being of a somewhat egalitarian
 bent --
 in favour of both a stronger monarchy and a selective one in
 Canada,
 rather than one with the current hereditary succession, but the
 idea
 that the English Monarchy came down on the side of Divine Right
 is
 really laughable.
 
 
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Re: PESO: Painted Desert Black Bird

2010-07-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Jerry in Arizona wrote:


Thanks for the clarification Ann, I named it Crow cuz I just didn't know what 
else to call it.

I believe it was take at the rest area at Crystal Forest, but certainly not far 
from Blue Mesa.  Maybe one of Sam's offspring.

 


Maybe SAm, actually ---
Apparently ravens can live up to 40 years tho normally only live 12 to 
15 in the wild...

Given the friendliness of the Painted Desert -- 20 years is possible...

ann






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Jerry in Arizona wrote:

Took this while touring the Painted Desert a couple of years ago.  Came across 
it reviewing old files and remembered the issue here if a black bird was a crow 
or whatever.  Don't remember which camera I was using at the time.

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Crow_1043b.jpg

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Jerry -
that is not a crow you got there   that is a raven... raven's are 
vastly superior birds :-) also, considerably larger.  
it might even be my friend, Sam...


Or his offspring...  I'm not sure how long Raven's live, actually...

I bet he was begging for treats.

 





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Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen

2010-07-04 Thread paul stenquist
What Doug said. Good luck with this.
Paul

On Jul 4, 2010, at 9:36 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

 On 2010-07-04 21:13, John Celio wrote:
 
 Do credit card companies help with
 these sorts of things?
 
 If you bought it with a credit card, you might be covered on it by purchase 
 insurance.  In addition, if you have renter's or homeowner's insurance, that 
 may apply, too.
 
 Sorry for your rotten luck.
 
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RE: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
You really haven't a clue about English history, have you? 

The point is, cutting off Charles I's head put an end to the notion of the
divine right of kings and established the supremacy of Parliament. When the
crown was restored it was to Charles's son, not to some Germans. Several
monarchs later Parliament offered the crown to William of Orange and Mary,
who were joint monarchs and grandchildren of Charles I.

The Germans, the Hanovers, did not come into the picture until after the
death of Queen Anne, who succeeded William and Mary. 

All of them, including the Hanovers, succeeded because they were either
offered the Crown by Parliament or because they were next in line according
to the laws established by Parliament. This means that none of them, to use
your phrase that I was replying to is superior by reason of birth and has
rights that can't be taken away. They are subject to the will of
Parliament.

 
 No you didn't.  You just imported some German aristocrats to take his
 place.
 
 Dan
 
  well we don't. We swept all that nonsense away when we cut Charles
 I's head off in 1649.
 
  Bob



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Re: PESO: Painted Desert Black Bird

2010-07-04 Thread Jack Davis
Raven..I believe. Very nice catch and rendering.

Jack

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 From: Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com
 Subject: PESO: Painted Desert Black Bird
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 4:55 PM
 Took this while touring the Painted
 Desert a couple of years ago.  Came across it reviewing old
 files and remembered the issue here if a black bird was a
 crow or whatever.  Don't remember which camera I was using
 at the time.
 
 http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Crow_1043b.jpg
 
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RE: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen

2010-07-04 Thread Bob W
Bad luck. Do you have insurance?

If not then to replace it you could try several things (some of which may
not be available where you are, of course):

1. try posting a wanted on Freecycle, or similar (which is not about cycles
per se, but about recycling unwanted stuff)
2. see if your local police do bicycle auctions, and bid for one
3. see if your local bike shop has anything they retained for non-payment

Components don't matter as much as a decent frame. Apart from the fact that
they cost money.

I've been lucky in that I've had mine over 15 years and it's never been
stolen. It's insured, registered with the police and post-coded.

Bob

 
 My bicycle, which was my only mode of transportation, was stolen this
 morning.  It was locked up in front of my condo and they cut the locks
 like
 they were made of celery.  This completely ruined my 4th of July, but
 more
 importantly it's a whole lot of money that suddenly needs to be spent
 to get
 back to where I was.  Money I don't have.  My bike was practically
 brand new
 (maybe two months old?) and I'd put a bunch of accessories on it, and
 now I
 have nothing.
 
 I've done a few things so far to try to get it back.
 1. Filed a police report.
 2. Called everyone I know in the area and asked them to keep an eye out
 for
 it. They all know what my bike looks like.
 3. Called my HOA to check the security cameras.
 4. Posted a Lost/Found ad on Craigslist
 (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/laf/1825621864.html) and I will be
 checking
 there every day to see if someone tries to sell it.
 5. Drank four beers and ate a bunch of ice cream while trying to stay
 calm.
 
 Is there anything else I can do?  Do credit card companies help with
 these
 sorts of things?  I don't have a serial number or photos of my actual
 bike,
 which I realize was stupid but I'd been locking bikes the exact same
 way for
 seven years here and just never thought this would happen.  You don't
 have
 to tell me this was stupid, I know it was.
 
 Fortunately my upstairs neighbors had a spare mountain bike I'm
 borrowing to
 get to work for a while, but since they don't have a lock and all the
 bike
 stores are closed, I can't go anywhere tonight.  No fireworks for me.
 :(
 
 John
 
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Re: PESO - Incoming

2010-07-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You should be happy with it.  Very nice bee portrait.

Dan

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not as sharp as I might like, but I'm still pretty damned happy with it:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/incoming.html

 With the Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 macro manual focus.

 Hope you like.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Madame RD

Le 04/07/10 22:47, John Sessoms a ?crit :


 If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be private, 
 visible only to family.


well , it seems I'm not family ...


I think the failure in in the IF I understand how Flickr works ... 
department.


It was supposed to make the image private EXCEPT to those coming in 
through the URL provided. At least that's what I thought it was supposed 
to do.


I went ahead and made it public. Hopefully this one will work ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4761754890/

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Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?

2010-07-04 Thread Bong Manayon
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:44 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder if it works:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html

 ;-)

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

I enjoyed!  Btw, didn't we have a PUG theme on mailboxes...I should look...

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Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen

2010-07-04 Thread Christine Nielsen
I'm sorry to hear about your luck, John.  My son's bike was stolen in
December from his high school... it was literally his prized
possession and the whole experience was a heartbreaker.  Thinking
about it still makes me reach for the ice cream...

We did all the things you mentioned on your list, in addition to
contacting local bike shops in our area to give them a description of
the bike  let the know that it was lost.  We also offered a reward
for its return, and included that information in the craigslist ad.

Good luck,
-c

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Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen

2010-07-04 Thread John Celio

Do credit card companies help with
these sorts of things?


If you bought it with a credit card, you might be covered on it by 
purchase insurance.


Thanks for the suggestion.  I checked with my credit card company and they 
do cover purchases lost due to damage or theft for up to 90 days, so I was 
able to file claims for the bike and the little computer that was on it.  My 
other stuff was old, but if I can get a replacement bike I'll be happier 
than a hog in slop.  I imagine the paperwork will take a few weeks, but it's 
definitely better than having to start over cold.


Thanks,
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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: paul stenquist

On Jul 4, 2010, at 5:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

It's a very real CURRENT issue. The heir-apparent Prince of
Wales, Charles Windsor, appears to have run afoul of the
Succession Act himself.

He's divorced, he's married to a divorcee and she's a [former]
Roman Catholic. (Three strikes.)

Just being the first born son of the current monarch isn't enough
to put him on the throne. Charles doesn't inherit unless he can
convince Parliament to say he can inherit, which from this
distance appears less and less likely. There's a very real chance
the succession will skip over Charles to his eldest son because
he will not get the consent of Parliament.

You also might consider how the last king ended up on the
throne, as he was not first in the line of succession when his
father died.

Hint: Wallace Simpson was also a divorcee and a Roman Catholic.



If those factors are really relevant, it's all the more damning,
isn't it? What if she were black? Horrors!
Paul


If it were up to me, I wouldn't care one way or another. But what I 
think doesn't matter to the British Parliament who get to make the decision.


OTOH, from what I read, under the succession law it wouldn't matter if 
she were black, as long as she wasn't Roman Catholic or a divorcee.


I think it has something to do with England having a STATE religion.


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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: Daniel J. Matyola

Do the English really want Prince Charles for their king?


You know, I don't really have any idea. I was just pointing out that 
their law could be an impediment to him becoming King. I don't know what 
Parliament's going to do when the time comes.


OTOH, I think it's at least as interesting as the final episode of Lost.

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Re: Peso: Smokeys

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Larry and Dominique,
We'll see what I can do with contrast and black point.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Jul 4, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park.
 It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain,
 but it made the scenery very smokey.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174

 I particularly like 3769.



 Comments, advise, and criticism solicited...

 It's probably the rain that makes them seem rather flat, I'd try to 
 increase the contrast by bumping up the exposure a bit, then bumping up the 
 black point, to increase the range of the final image.  I don't know if 
 that would help, or hurt.


 Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill,
You have to stop accusing us of slave labor and racial segregation.
Slavery was an economic fact in the cotton farming southern states.
Look across the border, do they raise much cotton in Wyoming or North Dakota?
Were these states built on 'slave labor'?
And my ancestors weren't even resident in this country when slavery
was practiced,
so I'm deriving some great benefit from it???
As to segregation, I've never believed in it or seen it practiced in
the states I lived in.
Stop pretending you're all good because your Canadian and we're all bad.
It just isn't so...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yup, and they came to a country whose economy was built on slave labour and
 until fairly recently, had racial segregation legally entrenched in it's
 system.

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Re: PAW25 - red line

2010-07-04 Thread DagT
Thanks for telling me. Nice thing about comments is to know when things don´t 
work as you thought they would.

DagT

Den 5. juli 2010 kl. 03.33 skrev Daniel J. Matyola:

 For me, Dag, this image doesn't have the power or interest that all of
 your other PAWs and PESOs have.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:08 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
 K20D, DA55mm, 1/90s, f/5.6, ISO200
 
 The previous PAWs are here:
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html
 
 DagT


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