PESO 2010 - 129 - GDG

2010-07-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
A poesy available for your viewing ... along with another photograph,  
of course.


  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/transition-to-parts

comments always appreciated, thanks for looking.

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RE: OT -- It had to happen...

2010-07-28 Thread Bob W
 Be Seeing you...
 
 http://www.theonion.com/articles/budget-cuts-force-british-government-
 to-shut-down,17763/
 

you never know - it could  come true:
 http://www.weymouth.gov.uk/home.asp?sv=1056



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Re: A tale of the new bigma

2010-07-28 Thread eckinator
You should have told him this happens whenever you don't order your
lens from Sharper Image.

2010/7/28 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 Something you folks may find amusing.

 I was chatting with a friend at the dojo today. He recently bought an image 
 stabilized Sigma 50-500 for his Canon 7D, but returned it because he didn't 
 want to pay $1600 for a lens where the pictures weren't perfectly sharp.  He 
 also mused that his sensor may have contributed to it, since it isn't full 
 frame.  Later in the conversation it turned out that he was shooting with the 
 lens hand held.

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Re: Geso 30 for 30

2010-07-28 Thread Cotty
On 27/7/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


I really lucked out on the lighting.  I put up clear plastic over the
dance floor in my back yard to protect it from the rain, and it makes a
fantastic diffuser:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624371211856/

That's your back yard? Sunofabitch.

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Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-28 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/27/2010 8:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I didn't think it was an argument, Boris. Just information.


From Merriam Webster on the web:

argument: a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a 
conclusion.


I used argument as a synonym to reasoning... In no way did I imply 
an argument as in: a reason given in proof or rebuttal or in  
discourse intended to persuade. All quotes of course are from the same 
Merriam Webster page.


The more English language I know/learn the more increasingly difficult 
it becomes to use it.


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Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

Got the subj. today from the post. Also on its way Pentax SMC FA 
24-90/3.5-4.5.


Reason: Tamron 28-75/2.8 is good but not wide enough, not if I have to 
shoot inside Galia's classroom. And additionally - I am not going to buy 
any more DA lenses unless I cannot do without them.


First impressions:

1. Well built.
2. Rings rotate the other way.
3. Issued -7 AF correction.
4. Ergonomically convenient, fits my hands well.

More to come as I intend to put this lens and Pentax 24-90 to proper use.

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New K-7 firmware (1.10)

2010-07-28 Thread Dario Bonazza

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1007/10072800pentaxk7firmware.asp

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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread Rick Womer
The 24-90 was my favorite lens on my (P)Z-1p, and lately it has been spending a 
lot of time on my K7.  Any problems have been with the photographer, not the 
camera or lens!

Rick

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 Hi!
 
 Got the subj. today from the post. Also on its way Pentax
 SMC FA 24-90/3.5-4.5.
 
 Reason: Tamron 28-75/2.8 is good but not wide enough, not
 if I have to shoot inside Galia's classroom. And
 additionally - I am not going to buy any more DA lenses
 unless I cannot do without them.
 
 First impressions:
 
 1. Well built.
 2. Rings rotate the other way.
 3. Issued -7 AF correction.
 4. Ergonomically convenient, fits my hands well.
 
 More to come as I intend to put this lens and Pentax 24-90
 to proper use.
 
 Boris
 
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PESO - Sunny Meadow

2010-07-28 Thread frank theriault
Whatever these plants were (maybe thistles of some sort?) they were
going to seed and when the wind blew their fluff was flying about in
the sunshine.  I was only partially successful in capturing that, but
I do kind of like this one anyway:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/sunny-meadow.html

*istD, M 200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-28 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote:


I used argument as a synonym to reasoning... In no way did I imply
an argument as in: a reason given in proof or rebuttal or in 
discourse intended to persuade. All quotes of course are from the same
Merriam Webster page.

The more English language I know/learn the more increasingly difficult
it becomes to use it.


That's a perfectly valid use of the word argument, Boris, but many 
Americans would use the word discussion, or maybe something else.  At 
least in the US, the word argument has overtones of disagreement, 
though it really shouldn't, based on historical usage.  I'm not sure how 
that fits with usage in the UK.


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Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, Doug Franklin
jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
 On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote:
 
  I used argument as a synonym to reasoning... In no way did I imply
  an argument as in: a reason given in proof or rebuttal or in 
  discourse intended to persuade. All quotes of course are from the same
  Merriam Webster page.
 
  The more English language I know/learn the more increasingly difficult
  it becomes to use it.
 
 That's a perfectly valid use of the word argument, Boris, but many 
 Americans would use the word discussion, or maybe something else.  At 
 least in the US, the word argument has overtones of disagreement, 
 though it really shouldn't, based on historical usage.  I'm not sure how 
 that fits with usage in the UK.


You mean like this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-572077907195969915#



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Re: PESO: Basketball Reject

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:17 +1000, p...@philnortheast.com wrote:
 
 I like to go to our local team's home games and of course I take my
 camera.
 
 The fast action is difficult to foillow with the camera, even thouigh I
 played the game for many years.  But with much practice I think I am
 starting to get the hang of photographing the games.
 
 http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/basketballreject.htm
 
 K10D DA*50-135mm  1/250  @ f3.5   ISO 1600 (on auto).
 
 The Noise Ninja plugin in Bibble5 reduced the noise considerably
 




That's a great action shot.  Nice and sharp too.



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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
It also fits better since it's essentially a dove bar shape.  I am
patiently awaiting my Panasonic 20 1.7 pancake which will give me
the desired degree of compactness, not to mention speed and field of
view.  I suspect the Kx with the DA 40 would be similar.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27 July 2010 18:21, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great review but your paragraph: Below is a picture taken side by
 side with the Canon S90 (read my review here). As you can see, the
 body of the E-PL1 isn’t that much larger than the S90. made me wince!
 I really couldn't imagine keeping that E-PL1 in my back pocket daily
 as I do the S90, they really are worlds apart size wise. That's why
 regardless of its flaws the S90 is such an amazing camera, personally
 if I'm going to lug about something that needs to be carried outside a
 pocket I might as well just take my K-x.

 I've received a lot of comments with respect to that remark; people
 really take it to heart! LOL.  No, they're not in the same size class,
 but the photo was for illustration purposes only, as in the E-PL1
 is not a ginormous camera, as can be seen when compared to the tiny
 S90. Or something like that  :-)

 During my time with the E-PL1 I carried it in my cargo pants pocket or
 jacket pocket, especially with the 17mm f/2.8 pancake; I couldn't do
 this with a K-x.

 However, the truly go-anywhere camera in my arsenal is most definitely
 the S90, and nobody's going to dethrone her anytime soon.


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Re: PESO: Cityscape in mixed media

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:37 -0400, Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070254
 
 Comments, suggestions, criticisms and abuse all welcomed.
 


A well thought out image with a great title.

My only problem with it is the backwards lean on the buildings. I think
it could be improved with a bit of rotation and perspective adjustment.


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Re: PESO - Morning fishing

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:28 -0700, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4 weekend.  I was very
 impressed by how well the K7 handled the exposure.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11326995size=lg
 
 (K7, FA 24-90)
 


Fascinating image.  You were obviously reader at just the right moment.



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Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Brian Walters wrote:


On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, Doug Franklin
jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
 


On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote:

(snip)  
 

many Americans would use the word discussion, or maybe something else.  At 
least in the US, the word argument has overtones of disagreement, 
though it really shouldn't, based on historical usage.  I'm not sure how 
that fits with usage in the UK.
   


You mean like this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-572077907195969915#

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I strongly suspected what I was going to see before I clicked on that 
link, Brian -- LOL!


That made _my_ morning anyway

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Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:10 -0400, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
wrote:
 Brian Walters wrote:
 
 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, Doug Franklin

 many Americans would use the word discussion, or maybe something else.  At 
 least in the US, the word argument has overtones of disagreement, 
 though it really shouldn't, based on historical usage.  I'm not sure how 
 that fits with usage in the UK.
 
 
 You mean like this:
 
 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-572077907195969915#
 
 
 I strongly suspected what I was going to see before I clicked on that 
 link, Brian -- LOL!
 
 That made _my_ morning anyway
 
 ann
 


Yes - I think a lot of people would have posted a similar link - it's
just that I got in first

Glad you got the day started on the right note!


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Re: Peso's More from at the Cottage

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:11 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Couple more from the wedding weekend.
 
 fishing at sunset.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11319438
 
 Shell and line.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11319439
 


Great to see you made time for other types of photography on that
weekend.

As others have said, Fishing at Sunset is excellent.  I like the
foreground reflections especially and the almost parallel lines of the
ripples.

Need to see it a lot bigger to fully appreciate it, I suspect.


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Re: GESO - Malakoff Rockfestival - Navigators

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:40 +0200, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com
wrote:
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/07/malakoff-rockfestival-navigators.html
 Not much to say really. Except that I've had a great weekend of music
 and photography fun.
 
 Feel free to comment
 


OK.  I will

An enjoyable set, especially 1582.jpg and 1568.jpg with those fantastic
rays of sunlight.

I have no idea what comment Jeanette made but I think the toned down
version of 1590.jpg is a little ...er, too much toned down.


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Re: PESO - Morning fishing

2010-07-28 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Brian!  I saw them from a distance, and had my camera on a cushion in 
front of me by the time we came within range.

Rick

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 Subject: Re: PESO - Morning fishing
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 Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:08 AM
 On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:28 -0700,
 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4
 weekend.  I was very
  impressed by how well the K7 handled the exposure.
  
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11326995size=lg
  
  (K7, FA 24-90)
  
 
 
 Fascinating image.  You were obviously reader at just
 the right moment.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: PESO - Morning fishing

2010-07-28 Thread P N Stenquist

Nice shot. Very pleasant scene.
Paul

On Jul 28, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Thanks, Brian!  I saw them from a distance, and had my camera on a  
cushion in front of me by the time we came within range.


Rick

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From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
Subject: Re: PESO - Morning fishing
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:08 AM
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:28 -0700,
Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4

weekend.  I was very

impressed by how well the K7 handled the exposure.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11326995size=lg

(K7, FA 24-90)




Fascinating image.  You were obviously reader at just
the right moment.



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Re: Peso's More from at the Cottage

2010-07-28 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Brian and Daniel.

Dave

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:11 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Couple more from the wedding weekend.

 fishing at sunset.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11319438

 Shell and line.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11319439



 Great to see you made time for other types of photography on that
 weekend.

 As others have said, Fishing at Sunset is excellent.  I like the
 foreground reflections especially and the almost parallel lines of the
 ripples.

 Need to see it a lot bigger to fully appreciate it, I suspect.


 Cheers

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Re: Peso's More from at the Cottage

2010-07-28 Thread paul stenquist
Nice sunset scene. Looks like a place I'd like to be.
Paul


On Jul 28, 2010, at 10:29 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Thanks Brian and Daniel.
 
 Dave
 
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:11 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Couple more from the wedding weekend.
 
 fishing at sunset.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11319438
 
 Shell and line.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11319439
 
 
 
 Great to see you made time for other types of photography on that
 weekend.
 
 As others have said, Fishing at Sunset is excellent.  I like the
 foreground reflections especially and the almost parallel lines of the
 ripples.
 
 Need to see it a lot bigger to fully appreciate it, I suspect.
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
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Re: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's

2010-07-28 Thread Doug Brewer

Chris Mitchell wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:

Sent: 23 July 2010 18:43
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's

A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and
asked me to come out and photograph it.
This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-
72157624563427022/



Nice shot Larry. Not surprised that she's using it on her facebook page.

Nice guitar too. Looks like one of the early 70s Takamines that with the
Martin-like logo which they had to stop using when CL Martin asked them to
desist. Either that or someone else is imitating them.


That's a Sigma guitar, once a subsidiary of Martin, so no surprise on 
the similarity.


oh, and that's one of your better club shots, Larry.

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Interesting new book for film fans

2010-07-28 Thread Mark Roberts
A friend of mine at GEH just posted this link on her Facebook page:
http://makingkodakfilm.com/
Making KODAK Film
The Illustrated Story of State-of-the-Art
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Re: Interesting new book for film fans

2010-07-28 Thread paul stenquist
I guess film industry trade secrets aren't all that important any more.

On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 A friend of mine at GEH just posted this link on her Facebook page:
 http://makingkodakfilm.com/
 Making KODAK Film
 The Illustrated Story of State-of-the-Art
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Re: PESO: Cityscape in mixed media

2010-07-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for you comments, Bob and Frank, and thanks for looking.

Dan

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:03 PM, frank theriault
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 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070254

 Comments, suggestions, criticisms and abuse all welcomed.

 I like it.  Interesting juxtaposition between the modern skyscrapers
 and the junk and detritus in the foreground.

 Very compelling photo.

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Re: PESO: Basketball Reject

2010-07-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
Umm, yeah!  I'd say so!  Getting the hang of it indeed.  Very nice work there!
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I like to go to our local team's home games and of course I take my camera.

The fast action is difficult to foillow with the camera, even thouigh I
played the game for many years.  But with much practice I think I am
starting to get the hang of photographing the games.

http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/basketballreject.htm

K10D DA*50-135mm  1/250  @ f3.5   ISO 1600 (on auto).

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Re: PESO 2010 - 129 - GDG

2010-07-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
Wow it almost looks like you created the art rather than finding it.  Much 
like the previous shot, I really like this one too.
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A poesy available for your viewing ... along with another photograph,  
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   http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/transition-to-parts

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Re: PESO: Cityscape in mixed media

2010-07-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I'm glad you said that, Brian.  I struggled with that issue before
posting the image.

At first, I rotated the image to make the building lines vertical, but
that through the blue fence out of horizontal, and it looked worse (to
my eye).  Then, I tried perspective adjustment in Photo Shop, but that
squashed the buildings a bit too much, so I went back to the original.

I think that I will start all over, and try a little perspective
adjustment, a little rotation and a little cropping to see if I can
get a balance between keeping the vertical lines vertical, the
horizontal lines horizontal, and the building proportions close to
reality.

Thanks for looking and commenting.

Dan

I think that

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:37 -0400, Daniel J. Matyola
 danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070254

 Comments, suggestions, criticisms and abuse all welcomed.



 A well thought out image with a great title.

 My only problem with it is the backwards lean on the buildings. I think
 it could be improved with a bit of rotation and perspective adjustment.

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Re: Interesting new book for film fans

2010-07-28 Thread Mark Roberts
paul stenquist wrote:

On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 A friend of mine at GEH just posted this link on her Facebook page:
 http://makingkodakfilm.com/
 Making KODAK Film
 The Illustrated Story of State-of-the-Art
 Photographic Film Manufacturing 
 
I guess film industry trade secrets aren't all that important any more.

Apparently Kodak was enormously helpful to the author, providing
generous access -- including allowing photographing of their equipment
-- and a lot of consultants to answer questions.
It seems as if they want someone to document all this while it's still
around. And that they don't expect it to be around for much longer.

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Re: PESO 2010 - 129 - GDG

2010-07-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
thanks bruce.

Found art would lose something essential if I created it ... ;-)


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 Wow it almost looks like you created the art rather than finding it.  Much 
 like the previous shot, I really like this one too.
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 Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:

A poesy available for your viewing ... along with another photograph,
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   http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/transition-to-parts

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Re: GESO - Malakoff Rockfestival - Navigators

2010-07-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks Brian.
Jeanettes comment did not suggest the alternative rendering, it was
just a general likes comment. But she made me take a second look at
the picture, then I realised I wanted to try a new take on it.
First I tried BW, but it did not turn out good, so I ended up with
this under saturated look instead.

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2010/7/28 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:40 +0200, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/07/malakoff-rockfestival-navigators.html
 Not much to say really. Except that I've had a great weekend of music
 and photography fun.

 Feel free to comment



 OK.  I will

 An enjoyable set, especially 1582.jpg and 1568.jpg with those fantastic
 rays of sunlight.

 I have no idea what comment Jeanette made but I think the toned down
 version of 1590.jpg is a little ...er, too much toned down.


 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-28 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 03:24:18PM -0400, Miserere wrote:
 
 John,
 
 If you're interested in what I have to say about the E-PL1, then
 please take a look at parts 1 and 2 of my reviews:
 
 http://enticingthelight.com/2010/03/30/review-olympus-pen-e-pl1-part-1-first-impressions/
 http://enticingthelight.com/2010/04/07/review-olympus-pen-e-pl1-part-2-using-the-camera/

Good information - thanks.  If you'd posted it a day earlier you'd have
got a reference sale, too; we decided to order the camera from BH the
evening before your post showed up :-(


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OT iMovie to iDvd

2010-07-28 Thread David J Brooks
I did this once before and it worked, but it was a few years ago.

I made a slide show, with music of the wedding shots in iMovie HD. It
says to share to iDvd which i have. I dropped and dragged the file
as it says, but when i go to burn the project, it asks me to add the
file, which i did, but all i get is a file on the dvd of 124k and it
won't open or do anything.

I know I'm missing a step or possibly two here, any offers of help.

iBook G4 OS 10.4.1

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Re: OT -- It had to happen...

2010-07-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Fortunately, The Village still lives.  I have walked its streets and
entered the residence of Number 6:

http://www.portmeirion-village.com/

Dan

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Be Seeing you...

 http://www.theonion.com/articles/budget-cuts-force-british-government-
 to-shut-down,17763/


 you never know - it could  come true:
  http://www.weymouth.gov.uk/home.asp?sv=1056



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Re: PESO - Sunny Meadow

2010-07-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Someone has taken over Frank's identity.  I know he would never post a
color image of a Sunny Meadow.  VBG

Nice catch, though, and quite interesting.

Dan

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 Whatever these plants were (maybe thistles of some sort?) they were
 going to seed and when the wind blew their fluff was flying about in
 the sunshine.  I was only partially successful in capturing that, but
 I do kind of like this one anyway:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/sunny-meadow.html

 *istD, M 200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO: Basketball Reject

2010-07-28 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:17 AM,  p...@philnortheast.com wrote:

 I like to go to our local team's home games and of course I take my camera.

 The fast action is difficult to foillow with the camera, even thouigh I
 played the game for many years.  But with much practice I think I am
 starting to get the hang of photographing the games.

 http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/basketballreject.htm

 K10D DA*50-135mm  1/250  @ f3.5   ISO 1600 (on auto).

 The Noise Ninja plugin in Bibble5 reduced the noise considerably

That's at f3.5?  I would have thought that the crowd and background
would be much more OOF at that aperture.  In fact, that's my only
teeny quibble with this one:  I'd prefer a bit more blur of the
background, just to snap the players into even sharper (apparent)
focus.

But as I said, just a minor nit;  it's a terrific action photo!

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Morning fishing

2010-07-28 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4 weekend.  I was very 
 impressed by how well the K7 handled the exposure.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11326995size=lg

 (K7, FA 24-90)

Wish I were there.  Sigh...

;-)

Of course I'd rather be taking the photo than killing innocent
wildlife g,dr, but it's a wonderful photo of an idyllic scene.
And, yeah, the exposure is amazing!

cheers,
frank

ps:  I know there are those who practice catch and release, but were I
a fish I'd prefer going through life without a hole (or scar) on the
side of my mouth.

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Re: PESO - Top Dollar

2010-07-28 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:06 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow, nice car, and well lit and composed.

That about sums it up!

Terrific shot, Paul.

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Re: New K-7 firmware (1.10)

2010-07-28 Thread Thibouille
Yep, and it seems AF in LV is MUCH improved.

2010/7/28 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it:
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/1007/10072800pentaxk7firmware.asp

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Re: PUG??

2010-07-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Rob and Paul:

Yes, the PUG has size limitations, but then so does the Pentax Photo
Gallery.  Many members of this group still submit there, despite the
size of the images.

I really think that the PUG can serve a purpose for the list.  There
is something really satisfying about seeing a number of interesting
interpretations of the monthly theme, and that can result in good
interchanges.  I know I learned a lot.

For years, before we all got digital cameras, the PUG held the group
together.  I would like to continue the tradition.

There is still time to enter images for June, as well as July and
August.  I hope that more people will take advantage of that, and
re-energize our own little gallery.

Dan

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:21 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

 On 23/07/2010, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 I think the problem is that people are posting so many PESOs these days
 that the PUG might be seen as being less necessary than in the past.

 That's a pity because the PUG is a permanent gallery and it's good fun
 to wander though past galleries - all the way back to March 1998 - to
 see how people tackled the different themes.  And then there's that I
 remember him/her or Who the hell was.  nostalgia  :-)

 The main problem for me is that the PUG is stuck in a bit of a time
 warp, the maximum size for image submissions means that certain image
 attributes (and often a lot of the interest) tend to get lost in the
 downsizing.

 I agree. Scot upsized it a bit, but the pics are still on the itty bitty side.
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A measure of progress

2010-07-28 Thread Larry Colen
In retrospect, I should have waited until today to send the K20 in for repair.  
Last night a friend was celebrating his 18th birthday at a local blues jam. I 
had heard that Chris Cain was going to show up, so I kitted myself with both my 
K100d super, and the K-x.   I put the FA77 on the K100 and the 16-50 on the 
K-x. The difference in the two entry level Pentaxes, side by side, is very 
noticeable.  
The focusing indicators in the K100 are a huge win, and I like the feel of the 
K100 a little bit better. Other than that the K-x is improved in almost every 
way. I had forgotten how annoying the small K100 buffer was. And the K-x might 
be cleaner at 6400 than the K100 is at 800. In the lighting last night, the 
K100 pictures were noticeably less sharp than the K-x, but that could have a 
lot to do with depth of field and shutter speed.
It would be interesting to do some more comparison, because it almost seems as 
if pictures from the K-x are a tiny bit harsher than those from the K100, but 
I've got no way to explain that.

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FS: Lenses for cheap

2010-07-28 Thread John Celio
Pardon my posting a couple days early, I don't expect to have time to
post on Friday.

I have three lenses I want to get rid of, and I'm not overly worried
about how much I get for them.  I don't have the lenses in front of me
here at work so I don't have all the specs, but if you want to know more
just email me and I'll respond when I'm home later.

Sigma 28-80 macro II.  Came as part of a two-lens, entry level kit (the
70-300 is long gone) purchased in 2000 or 2001.  Quite sharp for such a
low-end lens, and fantastic 1:2 macro (the bokeh's not super, but what's
in focus looks great).  Comes with caps and hood.  I'd like, oh, $30 for
it?  I'm flexible.

Pentax SMC AF 35-70 f2.8.  This lens was the counterpart to the ME-F. 
Combined, they were the first autofocus camera to reach production:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_ME_F .  I have no idea if my lens'
autofocus works, since I've never found an ME-F to test it on.  I've
never even taken a picture with the lens, so I can't describe its
photographic capabilities.  It's kinda dusty, there may be some specks
inside, I've never really looked closely.  I don't have a front cap for
it.  At the very least, I know it's a usable fast zoom.  How does $40
sound to you?  Again, I'm flexible.

M42 Tele-Takumar 200mm f/5.6.  Can't tell you much of anything about
this lens.  Comes with a hood and rear cap, but no front cap. 
Interesting dual-ring aperture control (one sets min aperture, the other
actually controls the aperture and can't go smaller than the first
ring's setting).  It's yours for, say, $15?

All prices are in US greenbacks, and shipping will be extra, though as
inexpensive as possible.  In the US, add $3 for first-class mail (if you
want Priority Mail, insurance or other services, let me know and I'll
work up a price).  International buyers, give me your address and
shipping preferences and I'll figure out your shipping cost.

PayPal only.

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Re: OT iMovie to iDvd

2010-07-28 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-07-28 14:07, David J Brooks wrote:

I did this once before and it worked, but it was a few years ago.

I made a slide show, with music of the wedding shots in iMovie HD. It
says to share to iDvd which i have. I dropped and dragged the file
as it says, but when i go to burn the project, it asks me to add the
file, which i did, but all i get is a file on the dvd of 124k and it
won't open or do anything.

I know I'm missing a step or possibly two here, any offers of help.


Maybe you need to tell iDvd that you want to burn a regular DVD 
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Re: PESO - Morning fishing

2010-07-28 Thread P N Stenquist


On Jul 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com  
wrote:
Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4 weekend.  I  
was very impressed by how well the K7 handled the exposure.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11326995size=lg

(K7, FA 24-90)


Wish I were there.  Sigh...

;-)

Of course I'd rather be taking the photo than killing innocent
wildlife


Innocent? Hardly. Fish are the handmaidens of the devil. They can only  
redeem themselves by prostrating themselves before us on a plate.



g,dr, but it's a wonderful photo of an idyllic scene.
And, yeah, the exposure is amazing!

cheers,
frank

ps:  I know there are those who practice catch and release, but were I
a fish I'd prefer going through life without a hole (or scar) on the
side of my mouth.


Seriously, the mouths of most fish are a bony construction backed by a  
thin film that seems able to take a hook without significant damage.  
Since men have been fishing with hooks for perhaps millions of years  
that my well be a product of evolution. On the other hand, I don't  
really see the logic of catch and release. To me, fishing purely for  
enjoyment is less acceptable on a moral level than fishing for food.  
However, I have no deep problem either way and have done both. Grace  
and I plan on hitting the one of the local lakes again next week. We  
will probably catch only bluegills, thereby helping to thin out an  
overpopulation.

Paul


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Off Topic: how do you ensure your file backup operations are not corrupt? (windows xp)

2010-07-28 Thread Sam L
Hi all,

My backup strategy so far has been very basic:  I have a couple
windows xp computers and a couple of external drives.  I schedule a
backup of files from my official set of files to my external drive.
And I also manually copy the files from time to time to some other
drive.

This was mostly working fine but a while ago I realized a bunch of
files were corrupt, and I have no idea when or how they got corrupted.
 There are 2 symptoms of corruption:
1.  both thumbnail and full image will not open
2.  thumbnail will display, but full image will not open

The scarier symptom is when the thumbnail appears to be fine but is in
fact corrupt, because there is no easy way to verify if the files were
backed up successfully.

Anyway:  is there any way that you can verify if a jpeg file is
working correctly / not corrupt?  Is there a way to verify that your
copy operation was successful?

(I have no evidence that the copy operation is what corrupted my
files, so maybe I should just continue on with my copy operations and
trust that they are okay).

Your thoughts on this are appreciated!

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Re: Off Topic: how do you ensure your file backup operations are not corrupt? (windows xp)

2010-07-28 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-07-28 16:52, Sam L wrote:


My backup strategy so far has been very basic:  [...]


If it ain't off site, it ain't a backup.


1.  both thumbnail and full image will not open
2.  thumbnail will display, but full image will not open


What does will not open mean?  What messages do you get?  Are these 
PEFs, JPGs, or what?  What tool are you trying to use to open them?



The scarier symptom is when the thumbnail appears to be fine but is in
fact corrupt, because there is no easy way to verify if the files were
backed up successfully.


What do you mean?  How are you backing up?  Since you're just copying to 
an external drive, you can always do a file-by-file comparison afterwards.



Anyway:  is there any way that you can verify if a jpeg file is
working correctly / not corrupt?  Is there a way to verify that your
copy operation was successful?


For the command-line inclined on Windows, the comp or fc commands 
will do it, or simply add /v to the (x)copy command to start with. 
Similar options are available for Linux and Mac, too.  For those 
preferring GUIs, there are a variety of free software tools out there 
for any given platform that will compare the files after copying. 
WinDiff is one for Windows.



(I have no evidence that the copy operation is what corrupted my
files, so maybe I should just continue on with my copy operations and
trust that they are okay).


If it ain't verified, it ain't a backup.  Trusting that they were OK may 
be part of what got you in this mess.


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Re: PUG??

2010-07-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Someone should beat Scott about the head and shoulders, June and July 
should be up by now.  I know he's probably busy, but Geez.


On 7/28/2010 3:42 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Rob and Paul:

Yes, the PUG has size limitations, but then so does the Pentax Photo
Gallery.  Many members of this group still submit there, despite the
size of the images.

I really think that the PUG can serve a purpose for the list.  There
is something really satisfying about seeing a number of interesting
interpretations of the monthly theme, and that can result in good
interchanges.  I know I learned a lot.

For years, before we all got digital cameras, the PUG held the group
together.  I would like to continue the tradition.

There is still time to enter images for June, as well as July and
August.  I hope that more people will take advantage of that, and
re-energize our own little gallery.

Dan

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:21 PM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net  wrote:
   

On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

 

On 23/07/2010, Brian Walterssupera1...@fastmail.fm  wrote:

   

I think the problem is that people are posting so many PESOs these days
that the PUG might be seen as being less necessary than in the past.

That's a pity because the PUG is a permanent gallery and it's good fun
to wander though past galleries - all the way back to March 1998 - to
see how people tackled the different themes.  And then there's that I
remember him/her or Who the hell was.  nostalgia  :-)
 

The main problem for me is that the PUG is stuck in a bit of a time
warp, the maximum size for image submissions means that certain image
attributes (and often a lot of the interest) tend to get lost in the
downsizing.

   

I agree. Scot upsized it a bit, but the pics are still on the itty bitty side.
Paul
 
   



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Re: Interesting new book for film fans

2010-07-28 Thread P. J. Alling
My take.  Someone at Kodak doesn't think the this technology will be 
maintained much longer.  But it may have to be reproduced in the 
future.  Publishing a book will widely disseminate the information, so 
that it might not be lost for all time.


On 7/28/2010 12:18 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

paul stenquist wrote:

   

On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 

A friend of mine at GEH just posted this link on her Facebook page:
http://makingkodakfilm.com/
Making KODAK Film
The Illustrated Story of State-of-the-Art
Photographic Film Manufacturing

   

I guess film industry trade secrets aren't all that important any more.
 

Apparently Kodak was enormously helpful to the author, providing
generous access -- including allowing photographing of their equipment
-- and a lot of consultants to answer questions.
It seems as if they want someone to document all this while it's still
around. And that they don't expect it to be around for much longer.

   



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RE: Off Topic: how do you ensure your file backup operations are not corrupt? (windows xp)

2010-07-28 Thread Bob W
 My backup strategy so far has been very basic:  I have a couple windows xp
[...]
 
 Anyway:  is there any way that you can verify if a jpeg file is working
correctly
 / not corrupt?  Is there a way to verify that your copy operation was
 successful?
 
 (I have no evidence that the copy operation is what corrupted my files, so
 maybe I should just continue on with my copy operations and trust that
they
 are okay).
 
 Your thoughts on this are appreciated!

it depends on what you're using to copy the files. Any decent backup
software will give you the option of doing a read-after-write check, which
means the software reads each block back after it has written it, comparing
them to make sure the write was successful. It should also give a choice
about what to do if the raw check fails - e.g. retry, continue, ignore - and
send you a message about it, on the screen, in an email or maybe a series of
cryptic beeps.

You should check your copy operation thoroughly before you decide to just
continue with it. 

I run xcopy as a scheduled task rather than backup or some other specialised
software because it's simple and puts an exact copy on the backup drive
rather than some humungous file in a non-obvious format, and is easy to
restore.

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PESO: Cityscape in Mixed Media, Version 2

2010-07-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11341690

Revised in response to comments received on the first version, which is here:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070255

Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse all welcomed.

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Re: Off Topic: how do you ensure your file backup operations are not corrupt? (windows xp)

2010-07-28 Thread steve harley

On 2010-07-28 14:52 , Sam L wrote:

This was mostly working fine but a while ago I realized a bunch of
files were corrupt, and I have no idea when or how they got corrupted.


one easy way to check integrity while backing up is with rsync, though 
it is not the ideal tool to check for corruption after a successful 
backup; i'm sure rsync can run on Windows, but i don't know the ins and outs


a long-term reliable backup system should probably include multiple 
backups and sets of checksums with which to periodically verify that 
each backup is intact; if one is found to have become corrupt over time, 
that media should probably be replaced with a new copy from an intact backup


(personally, i do use rsync and make multiple backups, but i don't keep 
checksums and check for corruption later)


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Re: OT iMovie to iDvd

2010-07-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Doug Franklin
jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
 On 2010-07-28 14:07, David J Brooks wrote:

 I did this once before and it worked, but it was a few years ago.

 I made a slide show, with music of the wedding shots in iMovie HD. It
 says to share to iDvd which i have. I dropped and dragged the file
 as it says, but when i go to burn the project, it asks me to add the
 file, which i did, but all i get is a file on the dvd of 124k and it
 won't open or do anything.

 I know I'm missing a step or possibly two here, any offers of help.

 Maybe you need to tell iDvd that you want to burn a regular DVD instead of
 a data DVD?

Maybe, but i found something on google, burn direct to dvd. Not what
i wanted to have, but seems to work.

Dave

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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi!
 
 Got the subj. today from the post. Also on its way Pentax SMC FA 
 24-90/3.5-4.5.
 
 Reason: Tamron 28-75/2.8 is good but not wide enough, not if I have to shoot 
 inside Galia's classroom. And additionally - I am not going to buy any more 
 DA lenses unless I cannot do without them.

Other than the 28-75 not being wide enough, how do you like it? I'm so broke I 
can't even afford to fantasize about buying lenses these days,  but that's the 
focal length range that I keep finding myself needing, and I will grudgingly 
admit that a zoom lens can be more convenient that swapping through a bag full 
of primes, especially when shooting action.

My 18-250 is very convenient, but not fast enough, and the 16-50 is fast 
enough, but doesn't go quite as long as I'd like.

 
 First impressions:
 
 1. Well built.
 2. Rings rotate the other way.
 3. Issued -7 AF correction.
 4. Ergonomically convenient, fits my hands well.
 
 More to come as I intend to put this lens and Pentax 24-90 to proper use.
 
 Boris
 
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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

Other than the 28-75 not being wide enough, how do you like it? I'm so broke 
I can't even afford to fantasize about buying lenses these days, but that's 
the focal length range that I keep finding myself needing, and I will 
grudgingly admit that a zoom lens can be more convenient that swapping 
through a bag full of primes, especially when shooting action.

I have this lens in Alpha mount for my Sony A850. It's quite possibly
the most amazing value-for-money lens I've ever owned. Performs way
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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi!

 Got the subj. today from the post. Also on its way Pentax SMC FA 
 24-90/3.5-4.5.

 Reason: Tamron 28-75/2.8 is good but not wide enough, not if I have to shoot 
 inside Galia's classroom. And additionally - I am not going to buy any more 
 DA lenses unless I cannot do without them.

 Other than the 28-75 not being wide enough, how do you like it? I'm so broke 
 I can't even afford to fantasize about buying lenses these days,  but that's 
 the focal length range that I keep finding myself needing, and I will 
 grudgingly admit that a zoom lens can be more convenient that swapping 
 through a bag full of primes, especially when shooting action.

 My 18-250 is very convenient, but not fast enough, and the 16-50 is fast 
 enough, but doesn't go quite as long as I'd like.

I used to own the 28-75, sold it the first time I got out of Pentax
kit. Regretted it ever since. I'll probably buy another one in the
not-too distant future.

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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Larry Colen wrote:

Other than the 28-75 not being wide enough, how do you like it? I'm so broke
I can't even afford to fantasize about buying lenses these days, but that's
the focal length range that I keep finding myself needing, and I will
grudgingly admit that a zoom lens can be more convenient that swapping
through a bag full of primes, especially when shooting action.

 I have this lens in Alpha mount for my Sony A850. It's quite possibly
 the most amazing value-for-money lens I've ever owned. Performs way
 above its price range. Truly excellent.


I'ts a pretty good lens for what Sony charges (the Sony 28-75/2.8 SAM
and Konica Minolta 28-75/2.8 D are both rebadges of the Tamron), it's
a steal for what Tamron charges.

-Adam

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Re: PESO - Morning fishing

2010-07-28 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:31 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Jul 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4 weekend.  I was very
 impressed by how well the K7 handled the exposure.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11326995size=lg

 (K7, FA 24-90)

 Wish I were there.  Sigh...

 ;-)

 Of course I'd rather be taking the photo than killing innocent
 wildlife

 Innocent? Hardly. Fish are the handmaidens of the devil. They can only
 redeem themselves by prostrating themselves before us on a plate.

 g,dr, but it's a wonderful photo of an idyllic scene.
 And, yeah, the exposure is amazing!

 cheers,
 frank

 ps:  I know there are those who practice catch and release, but were I
 a fish I'd prefer going through life without a hole (or scar) on the
 side of my mouth.

 Seriously, the mouths of most fish are a bony construction backed by a thin
 film that seems able to take a hook without significant damage. Since men
 have been fishing with hooks for perhaps millions of years that my well be a
 product of evolution. On the other hand, I don't really see the logic of
 catch and release. To me, fishing purely for enjoyment is less acceptable on
 a moral level than fishing for food. However, I have no deep problem either
 way and have done both. Grace and I plan on hitting the one of the local
 lakes again next week. We will probably catch only bluegills, thereby
 helping to thin out an overpopulation.
 Paul

Well, I don't have as big a problem with fishing as with hunting.  I
try ('though I sometimes fail) to be non-judgmental about people's
choice to eat meat (including fish), and let's face it, if we eat it,
we gotta kill it first.  Catching fish on a hook and line seems to me
to be far less cruel than what goes on in most meat factories (and by
that I include feedlots and abattoirs).

So you and Grace go have fun!  I know we'll see photos.

When I used to fish I never caught anything anyway, so it ended up
being a nice day on a sunny lake in a boat.  That's why I prefer
having a camera these days!

;-)

cheers,
frank


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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread Larry Colen



On 07/28/2010 03:51 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com  wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


Other than the 28-75 not being wide enough, how do you like it? I'm so broke
I can't even afford to fantasize about buying lenses these days, but that's
the focal length range that I keep finding myself needing, and I will
grudgingly admit that a zoom lens can be more convenient that swapping
through a bag full of primes, especially when shooting action.


I have this lens in Alpha mount for my Sony A850. It's quite possibly
the most amazing value-for-money lens I've ever owned. Performs way
above its price range. Truly excellent.



I'ts a pretty good lens for what Sony charges (the Sony 28-75/2.8 SAM
and Konica Minolta 28-75/2.8 D are both rebadges of the Tamron), it's
a steal for what Tamron charges.


Maybe I'll have to ask for one for my birthday.



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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread Miserere
I second what Mark and Adam said. The Tammy has been my go-to zoom for
the last 2 years. 28mm isn't wide on APS-C, but I much prefer a
normal-to-long-tele zoom than a wide-to-short-tele, but that's just
me.

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On 28/07/2010, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi!

 Got the subj. today from the post. Also on its way Pentax SMC FA
 24-90/3.5-4.5.

 Reason: Tamron 28-75/2.8 is good but not wide enough, not if I have to
 shoot inside Galia's classroom. And additionally - I am not going to buy
 any more DA lenses unless I cannot do without them.

 Other than the 28-75 not being wide enough, how do you like it? I'm so broke
 I can't even afford to fantasize about buying lenses these days,  but that's
 the focal length range that I keep finding myself needing, and I will
 grudgingly admit that a zoom lens can be more convenient that swapping
 through a bag full of primes, especially when shooting action.

 My 18-250 is very convenient, but not fast enough, and the 16-50 is fast
 enough, but doesn't go quite as long as I'd like.


 First impressions:

 1. Well built.
 2. Rings rotate the other way.
 3. Issued -7 AF correction.
 4. Ergonomically convenient, fits my hands well.

 More to come as I intend to put this lens and Pentax 24-90 to proper use.

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Re: PESO - Morning fishing

2010-07-28 Thread paul stenquist

On Jul 28, 2010, at 7:22 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:31 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 On Jul 28, 2010, at 3:08 PM, frank theriault wrote:
 
 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Taken while paddling on an Adirondack lake on July 4 weekend.  I was very
 impressed by how well the K7 handled the exposure.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11326995size=lg
 
 (K7, FA 24-90)
 
 Wish I were there.  Sigh...
 
 ;-)
 
 Of course I'd rather be taking the photo than killing innocent
 wildlife
 
 Innocent? Hardly. Fish are the handmaidens of the devil. They can only
 redeem themselves by prostrating themselves before us on a plate.
 
 g,dr, but it's a wonderful photo of an idyllic scene.
 And, yeah, the exposure is amazing!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 ps:  I know there are those who practice catch and release, but were I
 a fish I'd prefer going through life without a hole (or scar) on the
 side of my mouth.
 
 Seriously, the mouths of most fish are a bony construction backed by a thin
 film that seems able to take a hook without significant damage. Since men
 have been fishing with hooks for perhaps millions of years that my well be a
 product of evolution. On the other hand, I don't really see the logic of
 catch and release. To me, fishing purely for enjoyment is less acceptable on
 a moral level than fishing for food. However, I have no deep problem either
 way and have done both. Grace and I plan on hitting the one of the local
 lakes again next week. We will probably catch only bluegills, thereby
 helping to thin out an overpopulation.
 Paul
 
 Well, I don't have as big a problem with fishing as with hunting.  I
 try ('though I sometimes fail) to be non-judgmental about people's
 choice to eat meat (including fish), and let's face it, if we eat it,
 we gotta kill it first.  Catching fish on a hook and line seems to me
 to be far less cruel than what goes on in most meat factories (and by
 that I include feedlots and abattoirs).
 
 So you and Grace go have fun!  I know we'll see photos.
 
 When I used to fish I never caught anything anyway, so it ended up
 being a nice day on a sunny lake in a boat.  That's why I prefer
 having a camera these days!
 
 ;-)
 
 cheers,
 frank

I usually prefer a camera as well. And when I took my kids fishing back in the 
eighties, we rarely caught anything. (Although my oldest son and I caught two 
big rainbow trout in Rocky Mountain National Park one year when I was there on 
production. We had a condo, so I cooked them and we ate them. Spectacular.) But 
last time out Grace and I caught and released about a dozen bluegills that were 
just a bit too small for the table. She was thrilled. And all the bluegills 
seemed to swim off as though nothing had happened.

I just wrote an article about crossbow hunting for the in-house magazine of a 
major sports store. I found it depressing. All the literature on the web talks 
about the kill and a through shot, which means through the heart of the 
deer. Kind of gross and extremely unfeeling. What's worse is that I'm sure I 
there are a lot of deer running around out there with arrows in their butt or 
worse. I avoided the gross terminology and focused on the equipment and 
location scouting. I would rather not write in that genre, but it was for a 
major client, and I can't pick and choose if I want to continue to earn a 
living. 

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PESO - Sunny Meadow - take 2

2010-07-28 Thread frank theriault
A more minimalist approach to the seed-spreading thistles:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/sunny-meadow-take-2.html

I don't know which I prefer (here's take 1):

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/sunny-meadow.html

I vacillate.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: Off Topic: how do you ensure your file backup operations are not corrupt? (windows xp)

2010-07-28 Thread P. J. Alling
You might want to check on the health of your hard drive.  A failing HD 
will lead to all kinds copy failures.


On 7/28/2010 5:30 PM, Bob W wrote:

My backup strategy so far has been very basic:  I have a couple windows xp
 

[...]
   

Anyway:  is there any way that you can verify if a jpeg file is working
 

correctly
   

/ not corrupt?  Is there a way to verify that your copy operation was
successful?

(I have no evidence that the copy operation is what corrupted my files, so
maybe I should just continue on with my copy operations and trust that
 

they
   

are okay).

Your thoughts on this are appreciated!
 

it depends on what you're using to copy the files. Any decent backup
software will give you the option of doing a read-after-write check, which
means the software reads each block back after it has written it, comparing
them to make sure the write was successful. It should also give a choice
about what to do if the raw check fails - e.g. retry, continue, ignore - and
send you a message about it, on the screen, in an email or maybe a series of
cryptic beeps.

You should check your copy operation thoroughly before you decide to just
continue with it.

I run xcopy as a scheduled task rather than backup or some other specialised
software because it's simple and puts an exact copy on the backup drive
rather than some humungous file in a non-obvious format, and is easy to
restore.

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Re: PESO 2010 - 129 - GDG

2010-07-28 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks bruce.

 Found art would lose something essential if I created it ... ;-)

Exactly!

This is a terrific photo.

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Re: PESO - Sunny Meadow - take 2

2010-07-28 Thread paul stenquist
I much prefer take 1. More seeds in the air. Makes me want to sneeze:-).
Well done.
Paul

On Jul 28, 2010, at 8:21 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 A more minimalist approach to the seed-spreading thistles:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/sunny-meadow-take-2.html
 
 I don't know which I prefer (here's take 1):
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/sunny-meadow.html
 
 I vacillate.
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

snip I am not going to buy any more DA lenses unless I cannot do without them.
snip

I know you've already seen (and responded to the thread) but I'll say it anyway:

MARK!!

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Re: GESO - Malakoff Rockfestival - Navigators

2010-07-28 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/07/malakoff-rockfestival-navigators.html
 Not much to say really. Except that I've had a great weekend of music
 and photography fun.

 Feel free to comment

All very good shots, but the second one, with the sun on the beautiful
smiling lady's face gets my nod.  Terrific!!

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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread paul stenquist
Neither lens is wide enough for a classroom shot, if you want to cover at least 
half the room. You'd need the 12-24 for full coverage. 
Paul
On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi!
 
 Got the subj. today from the post. Also on its way Pentax SMC FA 
 24-90/3.5-4.5.
 
 Reason: Tamron 28-75/2.8 is good but not wide enough, not if I have to shoot 
 inside Galia's classroom. And additionally - I am not going to buy any more 
 DA lenses unless I cannot do without them.
 
 First impressions:
 
 1. Well built.
 2. Rings rotate the other way.
 3. Issued -7 AF correction.
 4. Ergonomically convenient, fits my hands well.
 
 More to come as I intend to put this lens and Pentax 24-90 to proper use.
 
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RE: PESO - Abstract in Black and Gold

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:00 +0100, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
  G'day all
  
  A shot from my recent trip to Noosa on Queensland's Sunshine Coast.  I
 came
  across this creek with black deposits in the rippled sand beneath the
 tannin
  coloured water.
  
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP6898peso.html
 


 you make it sound like a smoker's fingers.
 



Har!!


On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:16 +1000, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au
wrote:
 Nice one Brian - there is a similar effect on Stradbroke Island (just an
 hour from Brisbane by ferry), where there is a lake with copper-coloured
 water on almost white sand: not pollution, just naturally occurring
 minerals.


This was taken on Sunshine Beach just south of Noosa and there's quite a
bit of urbanisation upstream.  I think the tannin-coloured water is
natural but not sure about the black deposits.

Thanks to all who looked and/or commented.  Much appreciated.



Cheers

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Re: PESO 2010 - 129 - GDG

2010-07-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

frank theriault wrote:


On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 


thanks bruce.

Found art would lose something essential if I created it ... ;-)
   



Exactly!

This is a terrific photo.

cheers,
frank

 


What Frank said

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Monsoon Sky Redux

2010-07-28 Thread Jerry in Arizona
A few days I submitted a pic of an Arizona monsoon sky and got some nice 
comments, but it was suggested that showing some ground would improve the 
image.  Well the sky gods cooperated again this evening and I took a few with a 
wider lens and included some ground clutter.  The building on the lower left is 
the same one as in the previous pic.  Thus I submit this humble effort for your 
review and consideration.


http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/MonsoonSky3_PESO_I5811.jpg

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Re: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's

2010-07-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 28, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

 Chris Mitchell wrote:
 Larry Colen wrote:
 Sent: 23 July 2010 18:43
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's
 
 A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and
 asked me to come out and photograph it.
 This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-
 72157624563427022/
 
 Nice shot Larry. Not surprised that she's using it on her facebook page.
 Nice guitar too. Looks like one of the early 70s Takamines that with the
 Martin-like logo which they had to stop using when CL Martin asked them to
 desist. Either that or someone else is imitating them.
 
 That's a Sigma guitar, once a subsidiary of Martin, so no surprise on the 
 similarity.
 
 oh, and that's one of your better club shots, Larry.

Thanks.   It's particularly nice to hear about my more recent work because that 
might mean I'm learning.  Either that or the lighting at Don Quixote's doesn't 
suck quite as much as at other places I shoot.


 
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Re: Geso 30 for 30

2010-07-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:37 AM, Cotty wrote:

 On 27/7/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 
 I really lucked out on the lighting.  I put up clear plastic over the
 dance floor in my back yard to protect it from the rain, and it makes a
 fantastic diffuser:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624371211856/
 
 That's your back yard? Sunofabitch.

So is this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4121384610/

Sort of. I'm pretty sure that was shot from my back yard, though I might have 
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Re: Monsoon Sky Redux

2010-07-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
So you seem to know better sky gods than I do.  Or at least you feed them 
better.  Could use a little more contrast but very nice.
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Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com wrote:

A few days I submitted a pic of an Arizona monsoon sky and got some nice 
comments, but it was suggested that showing some ground would improve the 
image.  Well the sky gods cooperated again this evening and I took a few with 
a 
wider lens and included some ground clutter.  The building on the lower left 
is 
the same one as in the previous pic.  Thus I submit this humble effort for 
your 
review and consideration.


http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/MonsoonSky3_PESO_I5811.jpg

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Re: PESO: Basketball Reject

2010-07-28 Thread Northeast Media

Frank

I know what you mean - I had a check and the focal length was 90mm, that 
lens does get better OOF at the longer focal lengths.


The last regular home game of the season is tomorrow night and I will switch 
to TAv mode to get max aperture and still have some control over shutter 
speed.


Obviosly I also need to zoom in more on the upper bodies and the ball to 
help get that isolating effect. It is a bit more difficult, but then that's 
why we practice.


Phil

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Subject: Re: PESO: Basketball Reject


On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:17 AM,  p...@philnortheast.com wrote:


I like to go to our local team's home games and of course I take my 
camera.


The fast action is difficult to foillow with the camera, even thouigh I
played the game for many years. But with much practice I think I am
starting to get the hang of photographing the games.

http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/basketballreject.htm

K10D DA*50-135mm 1/250 @ f3.5 ISO 1600 (on auto).

The Noise Ninja plugin in Bibble5 reduced the noise considerably


That's at f3.5?  I would have thought that the crowd and background
would be much more OOF at that aperture.  In fact, that's my only
teeny quibble with this one:  I'd prefer a bit more blur of the
background, just to snap the players into even sharper (apparent)
focus.

But as I said, just a minor nit;  it's a terrific action photo!

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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/29/2010 1:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Other than the 28-75 not being wide enough, how do you like it? I'm
so broke I can't even afford to fantasize about buying lenses these
days,  but that's the focal length range that I keep finding myself
needing, and I will grudgingly admit that a zoom lens can be more
convenient that swapping through a bag full of primes, especially
when shooting action.


Suffices it to say, Larry, that Tamron is good enough to hijack a Sigma 
thread ;-).


But seriously, you can look it up on my blog:
(http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/on-my-gear.html) -
there are few words about it there.

I recently checked the statistics of my photo collection (33,000+ 
photos). I have made in excess of 5,000 shots with Tamron. It is more 
than any other lens. E.g. each of my 3 FA limiteds has 3,000+ shots 
apiece, which is not few but still less than Tammy. Though together 
three amigos take over honorably.


Like it says in my blog, I bought from a fellow PDMLess. She probably 
cherry picked it because I simply refer to it as a set of excellent 
albeit regular f/2.8 primes. Sharp across the whole focal length range 
and at all apertures. Slightly punchy warm colors though it renders 
beautiful blues too. Sometimes slightly nervous bokeh. But not always. 
All around - excellent optic. And mind you, I have no plans of selling 
it should Sigma and/or Pentax zoom lenses prove as good.


I have shot with it using *istD, K10D and now K-7 - so that if you wish 
I can provide you with RAW samples of any of these cameras. And given 
the multitude of shots I made - likely most of the regular shooting 
situations are covered - so you can ask for specific focal length, 
aperture and motif - I could try to find and send you a sample thereof.


Boris

P.S. Just a few negative points to balance things out at least somewhat:

* Built is good but it is amateur build. Sigma is built in a more 
sturdy, more solid way.
* Zoom creeps some. Not a big deal as it has the zoom lock switch, but 
still.
* Sample variation - if you decide to buy one, check it well before you 
buy - there are reports of some pretty abysmal samples.

* Its stock hood sucks. Flimsy and clumsy.


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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/29/2010 4:07 AM, frank theriault wrote:

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com  wrote:

snip  I am not going to buy any more DA lenses unless I cannot do without 
them.
snip

I know you've already seen (and responded to the thread) but I'll say it anyway:

MARK!!

cheers,
frank


Oh yes, that has been my political platform for quite a few years now. 
And I did correct myself by buying FA 20/2.8 not long ago after I was 
almost forced to buy DA 21/3.2 for the wide lens.


I have been hmmm how to put it - told about possible wrongness of this 
position many times, but I stand by it anyway :-).


Boris


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Re: Enablement (Sigma EX 24-60/2.8 DG)

2010-07-28 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/29/2010 5:38 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

Neither lens is wide enough for a classroom shot, if you want to
cover at least half the room. You'd need the 12-24 for full
coverage. Paul


Paul, I am speaking from experience and very particular need. I do 
believe that 24 mm on wide end will be enough for that very purpose. 
You're in principle right but I don't have a flash to cover 16 mm EFOV 
and kids are really fast, you know. I might be better off with Tammy 
17-50/2.8 or something similar but I'd like to give this Sigma lens a 
fair chance. For outdoors shoots (such as class trips to zoo) Pentax FA 
24-90/3.5-4.5 should prove just perfect. Anyways, I am not a zoom kind 
of person, so that these zoom lenses are for very specific purpose.


I had a period of time when I shoot almost exclusively with Tamron 
(hence the 5,000+ shots in my collection that I made with it), but it 
passed. Although of course when I go on a shoot with Galia's class, I 
bring in several hundreds shots, so that the figure grows steadily and 
surely.


Other than that, my by far most used and most favorite lens is A 50/1.2.

Boris

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Re: Monsoon Sky Redux

2010-07-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Jerry in Arizona wrote:

A few days I submitted a pic of an Arizona monsoon sky and got some nice 
comments, but it was suggested that showing some ground would improve the 
image.  Well the sky gods cooperated again this evening and I took a few with a 
wider lens and included some ground clutter.  The building on the lower left is 
the same one as in the previous pic.  Thus I submit this humble effort for your 
review and consideration.



http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/MonsoonSky3_PESO_I5811.jpg

Jerry in Arizona

 



hmmm I don't see any buildings at all in this... but its a hell of a sky!

Did you show us a different frame than you thought you did?

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peso Phil and Chris

2010-07-28 Thread Larry Colen
I would be totally stoked to have Chris Cain play at my birthday party.  My 
friend Phil, who is a pretty hot guitarist himself, not only got Chris to play 
at his 18th birthday party last night, but got to play with Chris.  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4839409287/in/set-72157624481837961/

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PESO - mystery

2010-07-28 Thread Doug Brewer

http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/mystery

emjoy

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