Re: Question of terms and/or English

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman

On 1/2/2011 12:53 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 12/31/2010 9:58 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Not quite ... at least our use of words in explanation differs. I'll
bulletize:

- I use the term sharpness to indicate a quality I perceive an image
to have, using my eyes to judge with, not a measuring instrument.

- I use the term actuance to indicate a measured resolution of a
recorded photograph. It is always the observed resolution of an actual
photograph and is synonymous with resolution in that sense.

- I use the term resolution to indicate the calculated or theoretical
capability for detail in a medium, usually. It can also be used to
refer to the measured, observed detail of a specific photograph in
which case it is the same as actuance.

Is that clearer to you?


Only partially.

It is then that LR control called clarity should have direct effect on
acutance of an image either displayed to you or printed, right?


Clarity has nothing to do with actuance. Clarity is a 'smart' mid-tone
contrast adjustment tool.


Oh... Well, I've reread and reread and reread again your answers, 
Godfrey. Here is what I managed to make out of them.


1. Sharpness is a perceived quality of a displayed image.
2. Acutance and resolution are measured. Resolution is more theoretical 
such as a resolution of a lens and acutance is more practical, depending 
on the specifics of the given image (screen, paper, etc).


If that's correct then it would seem that I got it upside down thinking 
that resolution is measured and acutance is perceived...


Boris


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Re: Can anyone suggest a use for a 16MB SD card?

2011-01-02 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 10:01:09AM +1100, Brian Walters wrote:
 
 When you figure that out, maybe you can suggest uses for an 8 MB CF card
 (branded 'Pentax') that I just discovered in a box of old cards.  Might
 be a collectors item someday :-)

It would be a neat accessory for *ist-D owners; I'm pretty sure that it's
large enough to hold a downloaded copy of the final firmware release.

If you don't have a *ist-D, I'd be happy to take the card off your hands ...


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Re: Auntie's POTY

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman

Sobering...

On 12/31/2010 1:22 AM, Bob W wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11927856







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RE: OT Mac migration application

2011-01-02 Thread Bob W
 
  I encounter .docx files occasionally. OpenOffice opens them
  effortlessly.
 
 Does it save them without any changes? I've thought about trying Open
 Office. Seems to work for most users. Not sure if it's as good on Mac
 as it is on PC.

I use OpenOffice on one of my PCs (MS Office on others). It doesn't seem to
have any problems saving docx, apart from the nag screen it pops up.

B


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Re: OT Mac migration application

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman
That's because you don't have to write and/or later read any Hebrew or 
otherwise right to left documents, Bob...


On 1/2/2011 11:13 AM, Bob W wrote:


I encounter .docx files occasionally. OpenOffice opens them
effortlessly.


Does it save them without any changes? I've thought about trying Open
Office. Seems to work for most users. Not sure if it's as good on Mac
as it is on PC.


I use OpenOffice on one of my PCs (MS Office on others). It doesn't seem to
have any problems saving docx, apart from the nag screen it pops up.

B





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Re: PESO - Tree Shadow

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Excellent. All my attempts to do a similar thing failed miserably. 
Yours, Rick, however is totally excellent!


Boris


On 1/1/2011 8:35 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Taken last winter in the nearby cemetery.  This was a runner-up for my January 
PUG submission.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12175853size=lg

(K10D, DA 16-45)

Happy New Year, everyone!

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RE: OT Mac migration application

2011-01-02 Thread Bob W
 
 BTW: What value is there in .docx files vs .doc files? or even vs
 .rtf files? I've never seen one. I'd be curious to know. Pages '09
 reads .DOCX files too, how they differ from .DOC files and what
 advantage they pose seems invisible.

To the non-technical end user it doesn't really matter other than that .doc
is the most proprietary of the formats. The others are an attempt to open up
document formats to make them easier to share.

docx is an xml format whereas the others are (I think) binary. xml is a
notation used for structuring texts. Doc is proprietary to MS, as indeed is
docx, but it's open and the dtd (a machine-readable technical document that
describes types of xml text) is published somewhere so that xml processors
should theoretically be able to deal with it and published changes
relatively easily. xml itself is a mess, but that's a different story.

rtf is not proprietary. For the type of word processing that I do - keeping
things simple based on long-standing document design principles and avoiding
all the crap - it's perfectly adequate.

B


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RE: OT Mac migration application

2011-01-02 Thread Bob W
true enough. All I said was that it worked for me - didn't say anything
about its suitability for others.

B


 That's because you don't have to write and/or later read any Hebrew or
 otherwise right to left documents, Bob...
 
 On 1/2/2011 11:13 AM, Bob W wrote:
 
  I encounter .docx files occasionally. OpenOffice opens them
  effortlessly.
 
  Does it save them without any changes? I've thought about trying
 Open
  Office. Seems to work for most users. Not sure if it's as good on
 Mac
  as it is on PC.
 
  I use OpenOffice on one of my PCs (MS Office on others). It doesn't
 seem to
  have any problems saving docx, apart from the nag screen it pops up.




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Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2011-01-02 Thread Jens
Good point Godfrey.

To me is more an economical issue.
I own a large collection of Pentacon Six /Carl Zeiss Jena/Schneider Kreutznach 
lenses.
I got this 10-15 years ago (ebay) after selling my Rolleiflex (man, was that 
great), since I needed interchangeable lenses.

The Pentacon Six really does deliver great results, but:
1. The Pentacon doesn't have a built in lightmeter in the prisma. So it's 
really only for studio work. But more important: 
2. I just can't seem to learn how to compose square images - so, I wanted a 
rectangular format - like 6x7.

So finally, as the price tags seemed to drop a lot, I got a nice deal on a 
Pentax 67 + 2.8 90mm lens, a few weeks ago. 
Aftewards I have bought a Pentax 300mm and a Pentax 4.0 165mm LS lens for flash 
photography. Now I only miss a 45mm or 55mm :-)

So, I'm selliong my Pentacon Six equipment shortly

The first reason I got a Pentax 67 is, that I can't afford a Pentax 645D :-))
In Europe this will cost 20,000 USD with one lens. 
I would have to be a full time pro in order to convince my wife, I need this :-)

The 645D would cost me money (interest), since I don't have 20 grand to many 
lying arrond, even if it's not in use, for a while.
The 67 will only cost me money, when ever I have a paying customer to take care 
of the bills (film, development etc.)

So, until I win the lottery, I will use medium format as long as I can convince 
myself, that it will deliver results superior to my K20D or K-7 (and (hopefully 
soon) the K-5).

I bought the Petnax 67 from a pro rental studio, that didn't really want it 
anymore. At this studio, I could see film  wrappings lying on the floor here 
and there - which means: Pros still use film - at least to some extend.

Reagrds
Jens


 
  


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On Dec 31, 2010 18:30 Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thinking about it further, the real and only reason to shoot with
 Medium Format film today is, for me, to work with the very different
 coupling of Field of View and Depth of Field it affords compared to
 small-format (FourThirds, APS-C and so-called full frame) digital
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Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2011-01-02 Thread Jens
Some great shots there, Mark.

I see you're still (?) using the MZ-S.
I got mine from a fellow PDML member. I do intend to keep it. 
I recenly bought a K2. Great camera. Like a K1000 with an Auto Exposure option.
Still have one Spotmatic, a MX and a ME Super.
(Now I Just miss a Super A (one of the finest Pentax'es ever). 
Regards
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On Dec 31, 2010 22:08 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Jens wrote:
 Hello list
 I'm getting into photographing with Pentax 67. BTW: I just got the
 SMC 1:4 165 mm Leaf Shutter lens for studio work. Nice lens :-).
 Has anyone done tests, showing the resolution etc. of 6x7 film images
 compared to digital 14-15 Mp images, please?
 
 I've never done any formal testing, but I have both a 67 and my K20D
 and I've even photographed the same scene using both cameras. 
 Photos in Pentax Photo Gallery:
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/index-flash.jsp?#section=ARTISTsubS
 ection=100052subSubSection=5638809language=EN
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/index-flash.jsp?#section=ARTISTsubS
 ection=100052subSubSection=5453811language=EN
 
 The 67 definitely wins out in the resolution contest, but not by as
 big a margin as I'd expected. Comparing with my full-frame Sony at
 ~25
 megapixels is close enough to be too difficult to call except
 possibly
 with artificial test targets. (Film scanned on a Nikon Coolscan at
 4000 dpi)
 
 A significant advantage to me is being able to shoot with low speed
 films for longer shutter speeds and/or wider apertures with the 67.
 
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Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2011-01-02 Thread Jens
They still make imacon scanners  (I believe they were Danish actually)?
Jens

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On Jan 1, 2011 20:32 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 On Jan 1, 2011, at 2:27 PM, Jens wrote:
  I'm not sure Paul, but since it a studio recording done at appr. the
  same time, I guess it the same aperture - F 13 or perhaps F11.
  
  Next time I shall:
  
  1. Make sure the conditions are very close to being exactly the
  same.
  2. Use new 120 film (Kodak Ektar 100 or Fuji Astia 100)
  3. Use a pro-lab for developing
  4. Unfortunalely I don't have a por scanner, but I will use my Epson
  Perfection 3200 Photo, which does deliver reasonably good scans.
  
 
 I scanned on of my 6s7 shots on my 3200 and was reasonably pleased
 with the results. Then, just for grins, a friend of mine scanned the
 same transparency on his Imacon film scanner. The difference in
 sharpness and detail resolution was considerable. No comparison. A
 flatbed scan works with medium format, but it's far from optimum.
 Paul
 
  
  I may compare the F4 165 mm LS lens to a reasonably sharp 50mm lens
  for the K-7.
  I must say I am surprised how sharp the 2.8 28-70mm zoom lens is. It
  actually beat quite a few primes :-)
  
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  On Jan 1, 2011 20:13 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
  wrote:
  I'm surprised the K7 pic is as sharp as it is, given that it was
  shot
  at f13, where you're going to get a lot of diffusion. Try it at
  f5.6
  or so. What stop did you shoot the 6x7 pic at. And what lens. You
  list
  an 80/2.8. I assume you mean the 90/2.8?
  Paul
  On Jan 1, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Jens wrote:
  
  Thank you all for you rinterest in responding and answering my
  question.
  I have done some samll tests, that didin't turn out too well. But
  I
  was using old film and a questionable lab for developing.
  My result is shown at flickr.
  I photographed a sitting girl (in full figure) filling out the
  frame
  with my K-7 and with my 67. I enlarged one eye to be able to
  evaluate the resolution and sharpness:
  K-7:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5204650099/in/set-7215762546143
  41
  40/
  67: 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5204621235/in/set-7215762546143
  41
  40/
  
  In my small, not too well done ,test it seems that the K-7 is
  doing
  rather well.
  In order to convince myself, that I should keep on using the 67
  (insted of selling it) I need results that show, that the 67
  delivers reslults that are superior to those of the K-7.
  
  Regards
  Jens 
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Re: OT GESO - C41 on the street

2011-01-02 Thread Derby Chang

On 31/12/2010 10:59 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Derby Changder...@iinet.net.au  wrote:

Haven't been shooting much C41 lately - it's been tri-x for me mostly. So I
thought I'd burn off what I had in the fridge, to make room for more tri-x.
Summer is so much fun

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_12/10_12_c41/index.htm

Happy new year, everyone. I'm off to the markets for some sashimi and
scallops for tonight.

Terrific stuff there!  I think I hate you even more...

;-)

Most of it seems to be shot from a very low angle.  Was it from the
hip, were you crouching or were you using a waist-level finder?

Come to think of it, what camera/lens combo?

cheers,
frank


Thanks Larry and Frank,

I sometimes like to get a reaction, to have the eye contact, so I'll 
crouch and shoot. With wides, eye level close up looks stunted, so get 
in there.


Other times, I don't want to disturb the smooching, so I go the Joe 
Wigfall. Like him, I am clear I have a camera in my hand, not 
surreptitious. Just not to my eye

http://www.street-photographers.com/blog/joe-wigfall-wnyc-street-shots-8517.html


Larry, smoking is as disreputable here as anywhere else, but smokers are 
lost in their own world, which makes them beautiful.


BTW, my tuna and kingfish sashimi, outstanding, but more superb, my 
friend brought along organic Holy Goat cheese that was mind blowing.


http://www.dmproduce.com.au/mtree/members-by-produce/fresh-produce/holy-goat-cheese.html

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Re: Windy City Walking [25 imgs - DA15, FA31, FA43, DA*55]

2011-01-02 Thread Derby Chang

On 31/12/2010 7:25 AM, Andrew Allen wrote:

I appreciated a recent look at some Chicago street shots rediscovered,
documenting 1950's Chicago.  I think Chicago can be described as a
street photographers wet dream - it's an amazing and seemingly endless
city.  Here is my small take on the city from September of 2010
(comments/questions welcome): http://andrewallenphoto.com/p462249371



Hi Andrew,

Belated welcome to the fold, and street shooter to boot.

Attractive set, hope to see more.

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Re: Boris PESO #1 - Fisheye fun

2011-01-02 Thread Derby Chang

On 2/01/2011 4:47 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/01/peso-2011-01-fisheye-fun.html

Nikon D300 and Nikkor 10.5 FE are fun!

Be brutal and honest.

Boris



Fisheyes are like yachts. Much better to have a friend to has one than 
to own one yourself (coming from my hypocritical self who has 4 but 
never uses them).


That is quite an arresting shot, with the white car on the crossings.


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Re: Happy New Year with gratitude

2011-01-02 Thread Derby Chang

On 1/01/2011 1:36 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

I just wanted to wish everyone on this list a Happy New Year, New Years Day and 
all year long, and to express my deep gratitude for the generosity and patience 
with which you've responded to my endless questions since I came out of hiding 
here. I have learned so much. Much, much more to go, of course, but I don't 
think any workshop or course could have taught me so well as you all have.




My uni chemistry lecturer said once, he loved teaching 1st year classes 
because basic chemistry was like listening to a piece of Beethoven 
you've always loved. So I think everyone can hear the Eroica for the 
first time, and still be as amazed hearing it for the 100th time.


Post more PESOs



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Re: Boris PESO #1 - Fisheye fun

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman

On 1/2/2011 1:34 PM, Derby Chang wrote:

Fisheyes are like yachts. Much better to have a friend to has one than
to own one yourself (coming from my hypocritical self who has 4 but
never uses them).

That is quite an arresting shot, with the white car on the crossings.


Well, I used to have F 17-28 FE (from the film days) that I used on 
digital. At 17 mm it was fun. But I quickly got bored of it and went for 
rectilinear wide lenses. Presently I am thinking that even FA 20/2.8 
that I have is a bit of an overkill as it sees relatively too little use 
compared with what I intended...


To be totally honest, I went for that colorful bus to the left and 
upwards from the car you mentioned. But the driver wouldn't cooperate 
completely :-).


Boris


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Re: Boris PESO #1 - Fisheye fun

2011-01-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/1/11, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

Fisheyes are like yachts. Much better to have a friend to has one than
to own one yourself (coming from my hypocritical self who has 4 but
never uses them).

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Re: Boris PESO #1 - Fisheye fun

2011-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Fisheyes are like yachts. Much better to have a friend to has one than to
 own one yourself (coming from my hypocritical self who has 4 but never uses
 them).
snip

Mark!

cheers,
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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his eldest
 daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some of us met Jay
 this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.  I know
 many of us will want to post condolences either on his Facebook page or
 through the PDML list.  Jay writes a lovely tribute to his daughter on his
 blog.  The link is included in his Facebook post.

Such horrible news!

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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Half a day has passed since I read this message of yours, Christine. I 
still cannot find any words to express my sadness...


On 1/2/2011 8:16 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his
eldest daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning. Some of
us met Jay this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML
exhibition. I know many of us will want to post condolences either on
his Facebook page or through the PDML list. Jay writes a lovely tribute
to his daughter on his blog. The link is included in his Facebook post.

Christine Aguila




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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread paul stenquist
A terrible tragedy. So sorry.
Paul
On Jan 2, 2011, at 1:16 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his eldest 
 daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some of us met Jay 
 this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.  I know 
 many of us will want to post condolences either on his Facebook page or 
 through the PDML list.  Jay writes a lovely tribute to his daughter on his 
 blog.  The link is included in his Facebook post.
 
 Christine Aguila 
 
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PESO: Candle

2011-01-02 Thread Peter Loveday


Kai thought these glowing things were fascinating at our local Christmas 
Carol service:


http://picasaweb.google.com/loveboy/PESOs?authkey=Gv1sRgCJCsjeWRqsKHlwE#5557565728449298194

And no, he didn’t touch it :)

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Re: PESO: Candle

2011-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Peter Loveday pe...@loveday.org wrote:

 Kai thought these glowing things were fascinating at our local Christmas
 Carol service:

 http://picasaweb.google.com/loveboy/PESOs?authkey=Gv1sRgCJCsjeWRqsKHlwE#5557565728449298194

 And no, he didn’t touch it :)

 Love, Light and Peace,
 - Peter Loveday

Oops... there's nothing to see here. Either you do not have access to
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Re: PESO: Candle

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman

Works for me... Both as a link and as a photograph.

Speaking of which, when I was a little kid, I did touch it. In fact, 
I've let the match burn until it burned my fingers. Had to wait several 
years for fear to pass until I could light the gas stove with the match 
as I had a strong fear that it will burn me again...


Boris


On 1/2/2011 2:44 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Peter Lovedaype...@loveday.org  wrote:


Kai thought these glowing things were fascinating at our local Christmas
Carol service:

http://picasaweb.google.com/loveboy/PESOs?authkey=Gv1sRgCJCsjeWRqsKHlwE#5557565728449298194

And no, he didn’t touch it :)

Love, Light and Peace,
- Peter Loveday


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Re: OT Mac migration application

2011-01-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 3:26 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have text wrangler on the iBook, and use it for my html. I have
 tried doing documents in Appleworks and save them as word doc's but no
 one has had success opening them. thus office.mac.

 AppleWorks is ancient history. It was ancient history in 2002 when it
 was renamed AppleWorks from ClarisWorks. It never exported Word .DOC
 files very well, but it could output usable .RTF files. I wouldn't
 recommend using AppleWorks at all on Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard ...
 It was buggy even half a decade ago.

Maybe that is part of my problem.??

I'll try the RTF that some have suggested, but at least word/excel
will be on the computer if needed.

Dave

 I converted all my ClarisWorks/AppleWorks word processing documents to
 .RTF and imported them into Pages, then output them as Pages
 documents. Only a few documents created with mixed module combinations
 (CW/AW word-paint-vector graphics) caused me any grief ... and none of
 those were needed in an editable form, so I just output them as PDFs
 and tossed the originals.

 I detest Office. I'll use it when needed ... I have an alternative
 boot disk that I can run it from if it's absolutely necessary ... but
 it's so buggy and loads so much crap onto a system that unless I was
 dependent on it I'd rather not have it installed. I have no need of
 Word ...  PowerPoint, Excel, or Entourage neither ... so why should I
 waste the disk space on this crap?
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Re: OT Mac migration application

2011-01-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:


 If you save in RTF format and change the file extension (not the
 actual format) to .doc you'll find Word opens it without so much as a
 hiccup.

Really. Huh.


 (BTW: I'm using Word 97. There's nothing I need a word processor to do
 that it can't do. In fact, I'd still be using Word 95 except that it
 doesn't support the mouse scroll wheel.)

I have 2000 on the PC but have not been able to boot that thing up in
over a month.

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Re: PESO: Candle

2011-01-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:44 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Peter Loveday pe...@loveday.org wrote:

 Kai thought these glowing things were fascinating at our local Christmas
 Carol service:

 http://picasaweb.google.com/loveboy/PESOs?authkey=Gv1sRgCJCsjeWRqsKHlwE#5557565728449298194

 And no, he didn’t touch it :)

 Love, Light and Peace,
 - Peter Loveday

 Oops... there's nothing to see here. Either you do not have access to
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 the owner directly to gain access.

 cheers,
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Same here

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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread David J Brooks
Very sad news indeed.

Dave

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 daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some of us met Jay
 this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.  I know
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 through the PDML list.  Jay writes a lovely tribute to his daughter on his
 blog.  The link is included in his Facebook post.

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Re: Boris PESO #1 - Fisheye fun

2011-01-02 Thread David J Brooks
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 Hi!

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/01/peso-2011-01-fisheye-fun.html

 Nikon D300 and Nikkor 10.5 FE are fun!

 Be brutal and honest.

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Re: Boris PESO #1 - Fisheye fun

2011-01-02 Thread David J Brooks
I like the first one a lot.

Curious to hear any comments on using the D300, a camera i may upgrade
to in the distant future, when it will be known as the D900 probably.

Dave

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 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Fisheyes are like yachts. Much better to have a friend to has one than to
 own one yourself (coming from my hypocritical self who has 4 but never uses
 them).
 snip

 Mark!

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Re: GESO - Illinois road trip

2011-01-02 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
My mother was born and raised in North Lyons - a part of Clinton, 
Iowa...  about 20 miles south of there...  
across the river, of course.   driving across country in 2001 and 2002 I 
loved stopping in towns like that, sad
as they are... a dying breed.  Im guessing the by-pass is populated 
with McDonalds, Big Boy, Walmart, etc
I love the Dezine shop :-)

Look forward to your snaps of Galena.

ann

Really!  I'm just north of there, Bloomington, WI.
Tiny town of about 750 people.

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
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Re: PESO - Tree Shadow

2011-01-02 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Boris!  It was an exceptionally clear day, so the shadows were very 
sharp.

Of course, Israel is not known as a winter wonderland!

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Subject: Re: PESO - Tree Shadow
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 4:23 AM
 Excellent. All my attempts to do a
 similar thing failed miserably. 
 Yours, Rick, however is totally excellent!
 
 Boris
 
 
 On 1/1/2011 8:35 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
  Taken last winter in the nearby cemetery.  This
 was a runner-up for my January PUG submission.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12175853size=lg
 
  (K10D, DA 16-45)
 
  Happy New Year, everyone!
 
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Re: PESO - Tree Shadow

2011-01-02 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks Dave, Frank, and Dan!

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Subject: Re: PESO - Tree Shadow
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 Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 6:30 PM
 Good eye Rick
 
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Taken last winter in the nearby cemetery.  This was a
 runner-up for my January PUG submission.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12175853size=lg
 
  (K10D, DA 16-45)
 
  Happy New Year, everyone!
 
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Re: PESO - Tree Shadow

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman

You will be surprised but this (see below) is a ski resort...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Hermon

Boris

On 1/2/2011 3:47 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Thanks, Boris!  It was an exceptionally clear day, so the shadows were very 
sharp.

Of course, Israel is not known as a winter wonderland!

Rick

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--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com  wrote:


From: Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: PESO - Tree Shadow
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 4:23 AM
Excellent. All my attempts to do a
similar thing failed miserably.
Yours, Rick, however is totally excellent!

Boris


On 1/1/2011 8:35 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Taken last winter in the nearby cemetery.  This

was a runner-up for my January PUG submission.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12175853size=lg

(K10D, DA 16-45)

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PESO - Sushi 50% Off

2011-01-02 Thread Rick Womer
We were in New York on Thursday, and paid a brief visit to the Museum of Modern 
Art.  I saw this out a window:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12176014size=lg

(K7, FA 50/1.7, ISO 2200)

Rick



  

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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Tragic news indeed.
My heart goes out to him.
Bob S.

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 this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.  I know
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Re: Boris PESO #1 - Fisheye fun

2011-01-02 Thread Jack Davis
I agree!

Jack

--- On Sat, 1/1/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Boris PESO #1 - Fisheye fun
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 11:35 PM
 Jack, with present level of
 algorithms, FE can be used merely as a raw material for
 later processing, such as complete defishing. I cannot say
 if 10.5 mm defished FE is wider or narrower than rectilinear
 shot from DA 12-24 at 12 mm, but it surely is pretty darn
 wide.
 
 Boris
 
 
 On 1/1/2011 8:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
  I'm recusing myself from commenting as I've never
 dredged up enough
  imagination to appreciate the fisheye's use. Yeah, I'm
 very possibly
  the only one.sigh
  
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Re: double PESO - last post in 2010

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Great eye for geometric motives, Sasha. But I think we talked about the 
reasons for this in some length in Chicago /wink/.


Happy new year to you and your new camera.

Boris


On 12/31/2010 11:03 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

Testing K5:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5308939174/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5299020604/lightbox/

Good luck in new year!

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Re: PESO: Candle

2011-01-02 Thread Jack Davis
A treasured keeper, Peter! Wonderful exposure!

Jack

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 Subject: PESO: Candle
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 Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 4:38 AM
 
 Kai thought these glowing things were fascinating at our
 local Christmas Carol service:
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/loveboy/PESOs?authkey=Gv1sRgCJCsjeWRqsKHlwE#5557565728449298194
 
 And no, he didn’t touch it :)
 
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Re: PESO - The Sacred and The Profane

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman
I am thinking that the original title (see e-mail subject line) was more 
successful. It would go nicely along with the Dire Straits tune that 
has these words in its lyrics. Oh, found the name of the song: On every 
street... Excellent photograph, with or without a fit title...


Boris

On 12/31/2010 5:34 AM, frank theriault wrote:

Okay, the title's a bit OTT, but it's what came to mind right after I shot it:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/12/sacred-and-profane.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PRSO - From the Ministry of Useless Signs

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman

On 1/2/2011 12:47 AM, Bob W wrote:

My favourite is one I saw in Dorset a few years ago. It said Sign not in
use.

B


Nothing beats _cow_ngress ha-zioni (street name) sign which translates 
as Zionist Congress (historical event) that I saw in one of our 
towns... I should dig it out and post in my blog...


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Re: PESO: Candle

2011-01-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Peter,
Had to open it twice to see it. (Picasa problem)
I love how you can capture a look into their intentions at this age.
Fun stuff.
Keep shooting, the moments are fleeting and time will fly by.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 http://picasaweb.google.com/loveboy/PESOs?authkey=Gv1sRgCJCsjeWRqsKHlwE#5557565728449298194

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Re: PESO - Sushi 50% Off

2011-01-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Rick,
Wasn't NYC paralyzed by snow?
Didn't you have enough of your own in Philly?
It's a dark image with an unusual perspective.
It invites you to inspect it further to see what's happening.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 We were in New York on Thursday, and paid a brief visit to the Museum of 
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Re: Question of terms and/or English

2011-01-02 Thread Darren Addy
I've lived 51 years without knowing what acuteness is and feel none
the worse for it, so I think we can safely take it out of the English
language. Still, this seems to be a good definition I found while
Googling (to better myself):

Sharpness is a subjective sensation. Objective correlates of
sharpness are resolution and contrast (MTF curves are one way to
represent resolution and contrast - there are other ways). The term
resolution refers to the ability of a system to separate (i.e.,
resolve) two closely spaced lines. The finer (i.e., the more closely
spaced the lines) the system can resolve, the better the resolution of
the system. Acutance refers to the abruptness of an edge. That is,
does black abruptly become white or is there a border where black goes
to dark grey, light grey before going to white.

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Re: double PESO - last post in 2010

2011-01-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Testing K5:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5308939174/lightbox/

Excellent

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5299020604/lightbox/

I like the position of the power lines here.

Dave

 Good luck in new year!

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Re: January PUG - Last Call!

2011-01-02 Thread David J Brooks
Managed to rememeber this time

Dave

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day all

 This is the last call for submissions to the January PUG.  I'll be
 deactivating the Submission Form for January on Wednesday evening
 (remember, though, that's Aus time so for most of you the cut off will
 be earlier).

 Theme:  Patterns in Nature

 or Open Gallery

 Submit form here:
 http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

 Submission Guidelines here:
 http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html

 (which also explains how to submit via email if you have trouble with
 the submit form)

 To date I have 25 submissions for the theme and one for the Open
 Gallery.

 So get 'em in! (Ann, I'm still waiting.  :-)  )



 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Christine Aguila wrote:

I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his 
eldest daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some 
of us met Jay this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML 
exhibition.  I know many of us will want to post condolences either on 
his Facebook page or through the PDML list.  Jay writes a lovely 
tribute to his daughter on his blog.  The link is included in his 
Facebook post.


Christine Aguila

that's really incredibly sad.  thanks for posting here.  no words from 
us can be of much comfort but one has to say something.


ann


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Re: Question of terms and/or English

2011-01-02 Thread drd1135
This is consistent with the definitions I have heard. 
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:46:55 
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I've lived 51 years without knowing what acuteness is and feel none
the worse for it, so I think we can safely take it out of the English
language. Still, this seems to be a good definition I found while
Googling (to better myself):

Sharpness is a subjective sensation. Objective correlates of
sharpness are resolution and contrast (MTF curves are one way to
represent resolution and contrast - there are other ways). The term
resolution refers to the ability of a system to separate (i.e.,
resolve) two closely spaced lines. The finer (i.e., the more closely
spaced the lines) the system can resolve, the better the resolution of
the system. Acutance refers to the abruptness of an edge. That is,
does black abruptly become white or is there a border where black goes
to dark grey, light grey before going to white.

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Re: Question of terms and/or English

2011-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman
I lived 39 years before this very thread on the list /grin/... Darren, 
what occurs to me is that given that contrast is the rate at which one 
tone is changed to another, acutance is indeed very similar to local 
contrast.


Obviously, I am not going to be using any of these terms often, but I 
want to understand both so as to prevent any misunderstanding should any 
of these terms be used here or elsewhere in communication.


Boris


On 1/2/2011 4:46 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

I've lived 51 years without knowing what acuteness is and feel none
the worse for it, so I think we can safely take it out of the English
language. Still, this seems to be a good definition I found while
Googling (to better myself):

Sharpness is a subjective sensation. Objective correlates of
sharpness are resolution and contrast (MTF curves are one way to
represent resolution and contrast - there are other ways). The term
resolution refers to the ability of a system to separate (i.e.,
resolve) two closely spaced lines. The finer (i.e., the more closely
spaced the lines) the system can resolve, the better the resolution of
the system. Acutance refers to the abruptness of an edge. That is,
does black abruptly become white or is there a border where black goes
to dark grey, light grey before going to white.




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Re: PESO - 400 mm portrait

2011-01-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: Igor Roshchin


Shooting with a 400mm is much better than shooting with a 9mm :-)



Depends on the range and whether or not the target can shoot back. 8-D


Lovely photo. I used to be taking some candid portraits with the longer
lenses, - when people are not suspecting and therefore relaxed.
So, I am not at all opposed to the long-focal-length portraits.

Cheers,

Igor


On 12/31/2010 03:51 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

 When Grace and I were out shooting birds and squirrels at the nature
 center, I told her to walk away. When she was about 50 feet distant,
 I shot her at f8, 1/1000th, ISO 1600.


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Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2011-01-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jens


Thank you all for you rinterest in responding and answering my question.
I have done some samll tests, that didin't turn out too well. But I was
using old film and a questionable lab for developing.
My result is shown at flickr.
I photographed a sitting girl (in full figure) filling out the frame
with my K-7 and with my 67. I enlarged one eye to be able to evaluate
the resolution and sharpness:
K-7: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5204650099/in/set-72157625461434140/
67:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5204621235/in/set-72157625461434140/

In my small, not too well done ,test it seems that the K-7 is doing
rather well.
In order to convince myself, that I should keep on using the 67 (insted
of selling it) I need results that show, that the 67 delivers reslults
that are superior to those of the K-7.


You're losing quality scanning the negative. Don't blame the negative
for problems due to the fairly low resolution scan.

The Epson 3200 doesn't deliver sharp results scanning negatives. That's
not what it's designed for.

It does remarkably well all things considered, but it's not the best
tool for the job if you need high quality, high resolution scans from
your negatives. At best it's a tool for identifying those negatives that
might yield good results from high resolution scans.

Try shooting the K7 through a pair of pantyhose. That will impose a 
handicap on its resolution comparable to what the scans impose on your 
67 negatives.


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Pentax 6x7 scans, imacon vs. epson 3200

2011-01-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Here's a direct comparison of 6x7 negs scanned on an epson 3200 flatbed and an 
Imacon professional film scanner. The lens was the 300/4 and the stop was f32, 
because a lot of depth of field was required here. There was some low lying fog 
in the vicinity as well. So it's not the sharpest 6x7 neg you'll ever see, but 
the scan comparison is very revealing. Know too, that I had been scanning 6x7 
negs with the 3200 for quite a while at this point, And I was very careful to 
eliminate negative curl and worked hard to get the best scan possible. The 
samples here are 100% crops from the digital files.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12180230


Here's the full image from the Imacon scan. It's been seen here before.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5416945size=lg

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Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2011-01-02 Thread AlunFoto
2010/12/31 J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net:
 MF or LF on a light table rules!

Give me a side by side comparson of MF film and a digital capture on
your light table, and I might believe you. :-)

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Re: OT Mac migration application

2011-01-02 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/2/2011 4:31 AM, Bob W wrote:

BTW: What value is there in .docx files vs .doc files? or even vs
.rtf files? I've never seen one. I'd be curious to know. Pages '09
reads .DOCX files too, how they differ from .DOC files and what
advantage they pose seems invisible.

To the non-technical end user it doesn't really matter other than that .doc
is the most proprietary of the formats. The others are an attempt to open up
document formats to make them easier to share.

docx is an xml format whereas the others are (I think) binary. xml is a
notation used for structuring texts. Doc is proprietary to MS, as indeed is
docx, but it's open and the dtd (a machine-readable technical document that
describes types of xml text) is published somewhere so that xml processors
should theoretically be able to deal with it and published changes
relatively easily. xml itself is a mess, but that's a different story.

rtf is not proprietary. For the type of word processing that I do - keeping
things simple based on long-standing document design principles and avoiding
all the crap - it's perfectly adequate.

B
Actually RTF is propriatory.  It's a Microsoft standard and you won't 
find it described anywhere official except in Microsoft's RTF 
documentation, of which there is only one publicly released document, 
currently on version 1.6 all previous versions having been withdrawn, 
probably because they were too easy to read..  Microsoft can change RTF 
at anytime and not bother to notify anyone.  It is essentially an 
uncompilable DOC file.  It's major advantage is that it's Human readable 
though it's not nearly as structured as HTML, and by human readable I 
mean just barely.  You can hand code RTF documents that while following 
all the rules of RTF such as they are, will crash pretty much every RTF 
reader including Word, with nary an error message.  The definitive RTF 
reference that's not Microsoft is the O'Reily Pocket Guide.  It is AFAIK 
the only published discrimination of the language other than Microsoft's 
RTF Specification.


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Re: PESO: Candle

2011-01-02 Thread P. J. Alling

If he did he'd never touch it again.  Lesson learned...\\

A seriously sweet shot.

On 1/2/2011 7:38 AM, Peter Loveday wrote:


Kai thought these glowing things were fascinating at our local 
Christmas Carol service:


http://picasaweb.google.com/loveboy/PESOs?authkey=Gv1sRgCJCsjeWRqsKHlwE#5557565728449298194 



And no, he didn’t touch it :)

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Re: OT Mac migration application

2011-01-02 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/2/2011 12:24 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 1/2/2011 4:31 AM, Bob W wrote:

BTW: What value is there in .docx files vs .doc files? or even vs
.rtf files? I've never seen one. I'd be curious to know. Pages '09
reads .DOCX files too, how they differ from .DOC files and what
advantage they pose seems invisible.
To the non-technical end user it doesn't really matter other than 
that .doc
is the most proprietary of the formats. The others are an attempt to 
open up

document formats to make them easier to share.

docx is an xml format whereas the others are (I think) binary. xml is a
notation used for structuring texts. Doc is proprietary to MS, as 
indeed is
docx, but it's open and the dtd (a machine-readable technical 
document that
describes types of xml text) is published somewhere so that xml 
processors

should theoretically be able to deal with it and published changes
relatively easily. xml itself is a mess, but that's a different story.

rtf is not proprietary. For the type of word processing that I do - 
keeping
things simple based on long-standing document design principles and 
avoiding

all the crap - it's perfectly adequate.

B


That should be ...uncompiled DOC file...  damn spell checker made the 
change and I didn't notice.  The rest of that impenetrable 
sentence/paragraph I have to take credit/blame for.


Actually RTF is propriatory.  It's a Microsoft standard and you won't 
find it described anywhere official except in Microsoft's RTF 
documentation, of which there is only one publicly released document, 
currently on version 1.6 all previous versions having been withdrawn, 
probably because they were too easy to read..  Microsoft can change 
RTF at anytime and not bother to notify anyone.  It is essentially an 
uncompilable DOC file.  It's major advantage is that it's Human 
readable though it's not nearly as structured as HTML, and by human 
readable I mean just barely.  You can hand code RTF documents that 
while following all the rules of RTF such as they are, will crash 
pretty much every RTF reader including Word, with nary an error 
message.  The definitive RTF reference that's not Microsoft is the 
O'Reily Pocket Guide.  It is AFAIK the only published discrimination 
of the language other than Microsoft's RTF Specification.





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Re: PESO: Candle

2011-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Peter Loveday pe...@loveday.org wrote:

 Kai thought these glowing things were fascinating at our local Christmas
 Carol service:

 http://picasaweb.google.com/loveboy/PESOs?authkey=Gv1sRgCJCsjeWRqsKHlwE#5557565728449298194

 And no, he didn’t touch it :)

 Love, Light and Peace,
 - Peter Loveday

Worked this time, and what a shot!!

The child's wide-eyed innocence makes it.

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Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2011-01-02 Thread AlunFoto
2011/1/2 Jens p...@planfoto.dk:
 They still make imacon scanners  (I believe they were Danish actually)?
 Jens

The Imacon scanners are now sold as Hasselblad Flextight scanners.
They're more expensive than a Pentax 645D by good margin.

I'm sure the Pentax 67 is a wonderful tool for acquiring images. I
frequently miss shooting with the 645Nii, but never get around to
actually loading it with film. I remember I tried to consider the cost
of the Pentax *istD against my expenses for film an processing, and
concluded that I could buy a new digital SLR every third year for the
amount of money I spent on the gelatine. And that didn't include the
cost of scanning.

I just did a quick look around the web for prices on film and
processing in Norway. I used to shoot Provia a lot, so that's what I
looked for. Assuming 10 exposures per 120mm film, I arrived at a cost
of NOK 14,70 per exposure (film and E6 processing), from
http://www.scandinavianphoto.no/

It was a bit more challenging to find services for scanning of 120mm
film, but what I found was pretty scary. NOK 230,- for a raw scan of
_one_ image. Price more than doubled for the pro treatment,
including digital dust removal:
http://www.farvelabben.no/filmscanning.html

Excluding scanning, a Pentax 645D would break even with film cost at
roughly 5800 exposures.

I hope for your sake the Danish market has less hostile prices... :-)

Of course there are loads of other factors to consider, such as time
spent in workflow, cost of auxillary hardware (computers, archivning,
etc.) and expected time to obsolence, but It could be worth doing,
Jens.

Jostein

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Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2011-01-02 Thread Igor Roshchin


Sun Jan 2 09:58:35 CST 2011
John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Jens
 
  of selling it) I need results that show, that the 67 delivers reslults

re-sluts? ;-)

 
 Try shooting the K7 through a pair of pantyhose. That will impose a 
 
I see now why such a suggestion was given. :-)

:-)

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Re: PESO - Sushi 50% Off

2011-01-02 Thread Rick Womer
Bob,

We had some business to do in NYC; the place was still an awful mess.  I'm not 
sure whether being a motorist or being a pedestrian was worse--gridlocked 
traffic and streets narrowed by snowbanks on one hand, ankle-deep slush and 
jammed sidewalks on the other.

In Philly we got a mere 12 in (30cm); in NY they had 20 in (50cm).

Thanks for your comments!

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO - Sushi 50% Off
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 9:37 AM
 Rick,
 Wasn't NYC paralyzed by snow?
 Didn't you have enough of your own in Philly?
 It's a dark image with an unusual perspective.
 It invites you to inspect it further to see what's
 happening.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  We were in New York on Thursday, and paid a brief
 visit to the Museum of Modern Art.  I saw this out a
 window:
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12176014size=lg
 
  (K7, FA 50/1.7, ISO 2200)
 
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Re: PESO: Candle

2011-01-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Oops... there's nothing to see here. Either you do not have access to
these photos, or they don't exist at this web address. Please contact
the owner directly to gain access.

Dan
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http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Peter Loveday pe...@loveday.org wrote:

 Kai thought these glowing things were fascinating at our local Christmas
 Carol service:

 http://picasaweb.google.com/loveboy/PESOs?authkey=Gv1sRgCJCsjeWRqsKHlwE#5557565728449298194

 And no, he didn’t touch it :)

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PESO - East on Queen West

2011-01-02 Thread frank theriault
Just another bike shot:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/east-on-queen-west.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - Sushi 50% Off

2011-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 We were in New York on Thursday, and paid a brief visit to the Museum of 
 Modern Art.  I saw this out a window:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12176014size=lg

 (K7, FA 50/1.7, ISO 2200)

Wonderful depiction of NY nightlife.

Very vibrant and dynamic.

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Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2011-01-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Try shooting the K7 through a pair of pantyhose.

That's not legal in Virginia.  ;-)


On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:58 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Jens

 Thank you all for you rinterest in responding and answering my question.
 I have done some samll tests, that didin't turn out too well. But I was
 using old film and a questionable lab for developing.
 My result is shown at flickr.
 I photographed a sitting girl (in full figure) filling out the frame
 with my K-7 and with my 67. I enlarged one eye to be able to evaluate
 the resolution and sharpness:
 K-7:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5204650099/in/set-72157625461434140/
 67:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5204621235/in/set-72157625461434140/

 In my small, not too well done ,test it seems that the K-7 is doing
 rather well.
 In order to convince myself, that I should keep on using the 67 (insted
 of selling it) I need results that show, that the 67 delivers reslults
 that are superior to those of the K-7.

 You're losing quality scanning the negative. Don't blame the negative
 for problems due to the fairly low resolution scan.

 The Epson 3200 doesn't deliver sharp results scanning negatives. That's
 not what it's designed for.

 It does remarkably well all things considered, but it's not the best
 tool for the job if you need high quality, high resolution scans from
 your negatives. At best it's a tool for identifying those negatives that
 might yield good results from high resolution scans.

 Try shooting the K7 through a pair of pantyhose. That will impose a handicap
 on its resolution comparable to what the scans impose on your 67 negatives.

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Re: An official teaser

2011-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 For the article by me about shooting landscapes:
 http://digidownload.libero.it/vitaferma/newsletterEP/Paesaggio.htm

 Photos by Brian Walters, Thrain Vigfusson and Yours Truly.

Lovely!!

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Re: Old Dog

2011-01-02 Thread Christian

I actually like the tight crop.  Nice portrait.



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On 1/1/2011 5:44 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

A little too tightly cropped for me, otherwise nice.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
Subject: Peso: Old Dog



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Re: Question of terms and/or English

2011-01-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Darren Addy wrote:


I've lived 51 years without knowing what acuteness is and feel none
the worse for it, so I think we can safely take it out of the English
language. Still, this seems to be a good definition I found while
Googling (to better myself):

Um -- I bet you do know what _acuteness_  if I'm not being too obtuse, 
I think I'm right -
(ann, second only to Dave Brooks in typo-ography - welcomes Darren to 
the club)


But I live longer than you not ever hearing _acutance_ before - but then 
I'm the opposite of edgy


Happy New Year!
Can we milk this for a noew pun thread???

ann



Sharpness is a subjective sensation. Objective correlates of
sharpness are resolution and contrast (MTF curves are one way to
represent resolution and contrast - there are other ways). The term
resolution refers to the ability of a system to separate (i.e.,
resolve) two closely spaced lines. The finer (i.e., the more closely
spaced the lines) the system can resolve, the better the resolution of
the system. Acutance refers to the abruptness of an edge. That is,
does black abruptly become white or is there a border where black goes
to dark grey, light grey before going to white.

 






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Re: PESO - East on Queen West

2011-01-02 Thread Jack Davis
Interesting title. Did this, not so young appearing person, pass you on the 
inside? :)

Jack

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 Subject: PESO - East on Queen West
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 10:20 AM
 Just another bike shot:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/east-on-queen-west.html
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
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Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

2011-01-02 Thread Jack Davis
Sides, you'd have to take them off to do that..I'm guessing here, of course!

Jack

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 From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 10:32 AM
 Try shooting the K7 through a pair
 of pantyhose.
 
 That's not legal in Virginia.  ;-)
 
 
 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:58 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 wrote:
  From: Jens
 
  Thank you all for you rinterest in responding and
 answering my question.
  I have done some samll tests, that didin't turn
 out too well. But I was
  using old film and a questionable lab for
 developing.
  My result is shown at flickr.
  I photographed a sitting girl (in full figure)
 filling out the frame
  with my K-7 and with my 67. I enlarged one eye to
 be able to evaluate
  the resolution and sharpness:
  K-7:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5204650099/in/set-72157625461434140/
  67:
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5204621235/in/set-72157625461434140/
 
  In my small, not too well done ,test it seems that
 the K-7 is doing
  rather well.
  In order to convince myself, that I should keep on
 using the 67 (insted
  of selling it) I need results that show, that the
 67 delivers reslults
  that are superior to those of the K-7.
 
  You're losing quality scanning the negative. Don't
 blame the negative
  for problems due to the fairly low resolution scan.
 
  The Epson 3200 doesn't deliver sharp results scanning
 negatives. That's
  not what it's designed for.
 
  It does remarkably well all things considered, but
 it's not the best
  tool for the job if you need high quality, high
 resolution scans from
  your negatives. At best it's a tool for identifying
 those negatives that
  might yield good results from high resolution scans.
 
  Try shooting the K7 through a pair of pantyhose. That
 will impose a handicap
  on its resolution comparable to what the scans impose
 on your 67 negatives.
 
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Re: Question of terms and/or English

2011-01-02 Thread paul stenquist

On Jan 2, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
 
 Can we milk this for a new pun thread???
 
I think that would be udder nonsense.


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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread Paul Sorenson

On 1/2/2011 12:16 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his 
eldest daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some 
of us met Jay this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML 
exhibition.  I know many of us will want to post condolences either on 
his Facebook page or through the PDML list.  Jay writes a lovely 
tribute to his daughter on his blog.  The link is included in his 
Facebook post.


Christine Aguila

So sorry to hear that news.  No one should have to be faced with the 
death of a child.  My condolences to Jay and all of his family.


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Re: PDML 2010 blogroll

2011-01-02 Thread steve harley

On 2011-01-01 17:49 , Brian Walters wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:44 -0700, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com
wrote:




i do think it might be worth compiling a broader PDML links list, but
i'm not ready to curate that ... the feeds are self-curating because if
i see they aren't about photography or they don't get updated, i
eventually cull them



Mark has done this but it relies on people telling him about their sites
so it's probably missing quite a few:

http://www.robertstech.com/pdml.htm


excellent, i'm off the hook! i'll stick to _feeds_ i find from posts or 
that people tell me about


i'll also poke through that list for feeds i'm missing






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Re: OT Mac migration application

2011-01-02 Thread steve harley

On 2011-01-01 19:02 , paul stenquist wrote:

I'm using Word 2004. It works fine, but won't open .docx files, which are 
becoming more common. There is a conversion utility that I use, but it's time 
consuming. I'll probably upgrade soon. Don't want to, but business comes first.


i could be wrong, because it hasn't been important enough to me to try 
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makes Word 2004 open .docx transparently


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Re: OT Mac migration application

2011-01-02 Thread steve harley

On 2011-01-01 19:15 , paul stenquist wrote:

Does it save them without any changes? I've thought about trying Open Office. 
Seems to work for most users. Not sure if it's as good on Mac as it is on PC.


i'd expect it to change the document files when they are resaved, but to 
preserve the appearance of the documents


OpenOffice works well on my Mac, i've used it quite a bit including for 
detailed documents with page-layout type features; i've had a few 
problems getting it to use OpenType fonts and to output high-res images 
when exporting PDFs, but within the last year or so a new version 
cleared up most of the problems i saw; i haven't used it for such 
detailed stuff for a while though


also i found its style sheet system even harder to manage than Word's, 
and precise positioning of inline graphics to be a black art


for just text with basic styling applied you should expect no problems


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PAW52 - Christmas is over

2011-01-02 Thread DagT
...as well as the first PAW year. Thank you again for all the comments .-)

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Re: OT Mac migration application

2011-01-02 Thread paul stenquist

On Jan 2, 2011, at 2:51 PM, steve harley wrote:

 On 2011-01-01 19:02 , paul stenquist wrote:
 I'm using Word 2004. It works fine, but won't open .docx files, which are 
 becoming more common. There is a conversion utility that I use, but it's 
 time consuming. I'll probably upgrade soon. Don't want to, but business 
 comes first.
 
 i could be wrong, because it hasn't been important enough to me to try it, 
 but i'm under the impression that there's a plug-in from MS that makes Word 
 2004 open .docx transparently

There is a  plug in for opening the docx files. I use it, but it's clunky and 
sometimes has problems.
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Re: OT Ya know you're old when you remember...

2011-01-02 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-01-01 8:41, John Sessoms wrote:


And along with Dictaphones, there's the secretarial pool.
As a young child I always wondered why were weren't allowed to swim there.


That pool's reserved for the corporate management's swimming.

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Re: PESO - East on Queen West

2011-01-02 Thread David J Brooks
You let him pass you.

Dave

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 Just another bike shot:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/east-on-queen-west.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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PESO - Winter abstract

2011-01-02 Thread Toine
Time for some camera tossing:

http://www.repiuk.nl/images/PESO/winterabstract.jpg

Hope you like it...

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Re: Can anyone suggest a use for a 16MB SD card?

2011-01-02 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 03:31 -0500, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 10:01:09AM +1100, Brian Walters wrote:
  
  When you figure that out, maybe you can suggest uses for an 8 MB CF card
  (branded 'Pentax') that I just discovered in a box of old cards.  Might
  be a collectors item someday :-)
 
 It would be a neat accessory for *ist-D owners; I'm pretty sure that it's
 large enough to hold a downloaded copy of the final firmware release.
 
 If you don't have a *ist-D, I'd be happy to take the card off your hands
 ...


Thanks - I don't have an *ist-D but I've actually found that it belongs
with my EI-200, 2 megapixel compact.  It's not exactly a camera I use
much but it still works and the Pentax-branded card is part of it's
original specification according to the manual. So I'll need to hang on
to it.  Sorry, John.


Cheers

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Re: January PUG - Last Call!

2011-01-02 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 10:09 -0500, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Managed to rememeber this time
 



Yes you did rememeber.


Cheers

Brian

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  G'day all
 
  This is the last call for submissions to the January PUG.  I'll be
  deactivating the Submission Form for January on Wednesday evening
  (remember, though, that's Aus time so for most of you the cut off will
  be earlier).
 
  Theme:  Patterns in Nature
 
  or Open Gallery
 
  Submit form here:
  http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
 
  Submission Guidelines here:
  http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
 
  (which also explains how to submit via email if you have trouble with
  the submit form)
 
  To date I have 25 submissions for the theme and one for the Open
  Gallery.
 
  So get 'em in! (Ann, I'm still waiting.  :-)  )
 
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Brian
 
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Re: PESO - East on Queen West

2011-01-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/1/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just another bike shot:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/east-on-queen-west.html

Not just another bike shot Frank - absolutely superb. Amazing feeling in
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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 1, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his eldest 
 daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some of us met Jay 
 this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.  I know 
 many of us will want to post condolences either on his Facebook page or 
 through the PDML list.  Jay writes a lovely tribute to his daughter on his 
 blog.  The link is included in his Facebook post.

I'm so very sorry to hear this.


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Re: Question of terms and/or English

2011-01-02 Thread Cotty

 Can we milk this for a new pun thread???

I think that would be udder nonsense.

Whey too much.


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Re: Question of terms and/or English

2011-01-02 Thread paul stenquist

On Jan 2, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Cotty wrote:

 
 Can we milk this for a new pun thread???
 
 I think that would be udder nonsense.
 
 Whey too much.

It's one way to stay a breast of these things.
 
 
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RE: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread John Coyle
That's terrible - Jay, if you are reading this, my deepest sympathy goes to
you and your family.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Subject: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his eldest
daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some of us met Jay
this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.  I know
many of us will want to post condolences either on his Facebook page or
through the PDML list.  Jay writes a lovely tribute to his daughter on his
blog.  The link is included in his Facebook post.

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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread eckinator
That is terrible. We are not born to survive our children. I've never
met Jay but my thoughts are with him and his family in this dark
moment.
Ecke

2011/1/2 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:
 I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his eldest
 daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some of us met Jay
 this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.  I know
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 through the PDML list.  Jay writes a lovely tribute to his daughter on his
 blog.  The link is included in his Facebook post.

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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread Miserere
I chatted with Jay for some time back in May at the PDML exhibit and I
found him to be a very nice guy. I remember he was bemused that his
chosen shot had been of buildings when he's mostly a bird and
landscape shooter. It's tragic that he should lose his daughter,
especially on the first day of the new year. My heart goes out to Jay,
but I'm pained more by the loss of Jay's grandson, who is 7 and will
have to grow up without his mum.

For those of you not on Facebook, you can leave Jay a message on his blog:

http://sirfishalot.wordpress.com/2011/01/01/january-1st-2011-if-only-i-knew

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On 2 January 2011 01:16, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his eldest
 daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some of us met Jay
 this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.  I know
 many of us will want to post condolences either on his Facebook page or
 through the PDML list.  Jay writes a lovely tribute to his daughter on his
 blog.  The link is included in his Facebook post.

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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
I don't know Jay very well, but I can't imagine many things more
terrible than losing a child.  My condolences and prayers.

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:23 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is terrible. We are not born to survive our children. I've never
 met Jay but my thoughts are with him and his family in this dark
 moment.
 Ecke

 2011/1/2 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:
 I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his eldest
 daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some of us met Jay
 this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.  I know
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Re: Question of terms and/or English

2011-01-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Acuteness is a defintley a new angle on the subject.

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:06 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Jan 2, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Cotty wrote:


 Can we milk this for a new pun thread???

 I think that would be udder nonsense.

 Whey too much.

 It's one way to stay a breast of these things.


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Re: Vivian Maier, a street photographer discovered

2011-01-02 Thread Miserere
I discovered Vivian's work back in March and started writing a post
about her. Her work really touched me and I contacted John Maloof (the
guy who found her negatives) to arrange an interview during my visit
to Chicago for the PDML exhibit. Sadly (for me) Mr Maloof declined my
invitation on the grounds that he was preparing a book and couldn't
say anything more than what was on his blog:

http://vivianmaier.blogspot.com

I never finished that post.

I'm glad to see others appreciating her work as much as I do. I won't
be able to attend the exhibit in Chicago, but maybe they'll get it to
travel the US. At least I hope so!

Cheers,


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On 30 December 2010 13:08, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 This Chicago street photographer's work was discovered in a storage locker 
 after she died. Looks like she shot with a Rollei TLR in the 1950s. Baksed on 
  what is shown here, her work appears to be outstanding.
 http://www.vivianmaier.blogspot.com/
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Re: How To Hang Around [16 imgs - DA15, FA31, DA*55]

2011-01-02 Thread Miserere
Good stuff, Andrew. I like your muted colours, and although I would've
liked to see more people, I did enjoy your textural approach.

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On 1 January 2011 04:19, Andrew Allen andrewdall...@gmail.com wrote:
 I figured a little more Chicago eye candy might be in order - like I
 hinted at in my previous posting; the city is huge and the
 possibilities are endless.  I took a more 'textural' approach with
 this series - as opposed to focusing only on the human life of the
 place.  This combo of lenses (15, 31, 55) is currently my favorite
 3-lens setup and covers most conceivable 'street' situations.  Have a
 look - questions/comments welcome:
 http://andrewallenphoto.com/p568283951

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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Here is a shot of Jay in Chicago for the Augenblick exhibit.

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 I chatted with Jay for some time back in May at the PDML exhibit and I
 found him to be a very nice guy. I remember he was bemused that his
 chosen shot had been of buildings when he's mostly a bird and
 landscape shooter. It's tragic that he should lose his daughter,
 especially on the first day of the new year. My heart goes out to Jay,
 but I'm pained more by the loss of Jay's grandson, who is 7 and will
 have to grow up without his mum.

 For those of you not on Facebook, you can leave Jay a message on his blog:

 http://sirfishalot.wordpress.com/2011/01/01/january-1st-2011-if-only-i-knew

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 On 2 January 2011 01:16, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his eldest
 daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some of us met Jay
 this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.  I know
 many of us will want to post condolences either on his Facebook page or
 through the PDML list.  Jay writes a lovely tribute to his daughter on his
 blog.  The link is included in his Facebook post.

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Re: Meeting Boston PDML members?

2011-01-02 Thread Miserere
The 4th and 5th are better for me, but let me know what day you choose
and I'll try to bend that way.

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On 30 December 2010 18:58, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Igor Roshchin wrote:

We will be in Boston and vicinities the first week+ of January.
(Sorry for the late notice, - some plans were changing, and I was
swamped with the end of the semester to think about this trip.)

It looks like that I still have rather flexible schedule for January 2 - 6.

Does anybody want to meet (e.g. for lunch/coffee/...) on one of these
days? I know that Miserere will be back in town by then.
Who else is available? Mark?

 Count me in. I'm totally flexible for Jan 2-6. Let me know where
 you're staying and if there any events/exhibits you'd like to see. The
 Museum of Fine Arts has the Richard Avedon exhibit and the Modernist
 Photography exhibit running. I can probably find other interesting
 events. I can take you to my (and Miserere's) favorite
 hole-in-the-wall camera shop. If nothing else we can get together for
 some street photography and beer consumption :)

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Re: Tragic News Concerning Jay Taylor's Daughter

2011-01-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Here is a shot of Jay in Chicago for the Augenblick exhibit. (with URL)
http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Augenblick#5474183921914076962


 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 I chatted with Jay for some time back in May at the PDML exhibit and I
 found him to be a very nice guy. I remember he was bemused that his
 chosen shot had been of buildings when he's mostly a bird and
 landscape shooter. It's tragic that he should lose his daughter,
 especially on the first day of the new year. My heart goes out to Jay,
 but I'm pained more by the loss of Jay's grandson, who is 7 and will
 have to grow up without his mum.

 For those of you not on Facebook, you can leave Jay a message on his blog:

 http://sirfishalot.wordpress.com/2011/01/01/january-1st-2011-if-only-i-knew

    —M.

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 On 2 January 2011 01:16, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I was just on Facebook and learned that PDMLer, Jay Taylor, lost his eldest
 daughter in a tragic car accident earlier this morning.  Some of us met Jay
 this past May when he joined us in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.  I know
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 through the PDML list.  Jay writes a lovely tribute to his daughter on his
 blog.  The link is included in his Facebook post.

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Re: Going off list tomorrow

2011-01-02 Thread Miserere
On 15 December 2010 17:25, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't do anything Cotty would do.

 Dave

I barely took any photos...does that count?


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Re: PESO - East on Queen West

2011-01-02 Thread Rick Womer
What Cotty said!  The composition, timing, shutter speed, rendering are all 
excellent.

Are you back on a bike?

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Subject: Re: PESO - East on Queen West
 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 4:45 PM
 On 2/1/11, frank theriault,
 discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Just another bike shot:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/east-on-queen-west.html
 
 Not just another bike shot Frank - absolutely superb.
 Amazing feeling in
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Re: Question of terms and/or English

2011-01-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh... Well, I've reread and reread and reread again your answers, Godfrey.
 Here is what I managed to make out of them.

 1. Sharpness is a perceived quality of a displayed image.

Agree

 2. Acutance and resolution are measured. Resolution is more theoretical such
 as a resolution of a lens and acutance is more practical, depending on the
 specifics of the given image (screen, paper, etc).

The difference in how I use the terms is that resolution can be
calculated or observed while acutance can only be observed. Because of
that, includes all the notions of edge contrast, acuteness, etc that
have been mentioned. Neither is necessarily theoretical, but
anything calculated can be theoretical depending upon the premises of
the calculations.

Can we milk this for a new pun thread???
I think that would be udder nonsense.
Whey too much.
It's one way to stay a breast of these things.

I would be unlikely to have a cow because of that.

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Re: Question of terms and/or English

2011-01-02 Thread paul stenquist

On Jan 2, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 anything calculated can be theoretical depending upon the premises of
 the calculations.

Mark!
 
 Can we milk this for a new pun thread???
 I think that would be udder nonsense.
 Whey too much.
 It's one way to stay a breast of these things.
 
 I would be unlikely to have a cow because of that.
 
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Re: PESO - East on Queen West

2011-01-02 Thread paul stenquist
Like this one. A dynamic image.
Paul

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 What Cotty said!  The composition, timing, shutter speed, rendering are all 
 excellent.
 
 Are you back on a bike?
 
 Rick
 
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
 --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 
 From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com
 Subject: Re: PESO - East on Queen West
 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
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 On 2/1/11, frank theriault,
 discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Just another bike shot:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/east-on-queen-west.html
 
 Not just another bike shot Frank - absolutely superb.
 Amazing feeling in
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