The moth - I desperately want to kick somebody in the nuts
So I opened the FA135 up last night. On the outside it looked like Pentax service had never even gone inside. On the inside - sure they had been there. I bought the lens new from the local dealer around 2002, it was the last one in stock here but it was still new and from the dealer. Somebody had tried to force the back element open with the wrong instrument, markings on the barrel would suggest they failed. Also the moth stuff inside. Removed the aperture thingies only to find one of the biggest screws in there was badly damaged by somebody with background in changing wheels, not servicing fine instruments. Jackass, Philips power drivers should never ever be used on JIS screws. Aperture spring being glued in place and not swapped out for a new one is a minor nitpick in comparison. Didn't want to take it apart completely - helicoids and all - so I tried to unscrew the rear element with a properly softened large area of contact tool (just dumb oversized pliers with rubber pads) and it worked. So I removed the empty pupal case (no sight of moth itself) and all the debris. Here's a picture for those of you who got this far: http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=104 Properly cleaning the lens would require total disassembly and even then I don't know if it would be any good. Those monsters weave their cocoons and strands of that weave are between elements even further inside the lens. Even if I could open it up that far I don't know if I could completely remove everything. So that's it probably for this lens. I will test it against my other sample but there is no real reason for me to use it anyway when I have the other one. I don't see a good way to clean it so well that there is no sign of the moth ever being there so it can't be sold either. I might go through the adventure of disassembling it completely, cleaning it and putting it all together but I don't see that happening before the kids grow up :) Pentax should probably know about the sad state of service in Europe but I don't see a way to get this information to anybody who cares. If service at Pentax authorized service centers takes half a year and is performed by idiots who only make things worse, somebody should care, no? Oh well, I feel better already. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Istanbul
Golly dolly, that's gorgeous. Long live film On 2/11/2012 3:03 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: http://www.lukaknezevicstrika.com/gallery.html (first thumbnail opens the slideshow) A good chunk of these shot with a spotmatic sp II -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The moth - I desperately want to kick somebody in the nuts
If it is any consolation, Kris, my FA 20/2.8 got its focus ring jammed/stuck. Yesterday I rushed it to the local service. From the looks and the talk of the people there I should say I am not 100% sure they will be able to fix it. I sincerely hope they do, because it is a dandy optic which deserves to be put to good use. We will see how it progresses... On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com wrote: Pentax should probably know about the sad state of service in Europe but I don't see a way to get this information to anybody who cares. If service at Pentax authorized service centers takes half a year and is performed by idiots who only make things worse, somebody should care, no? Oh well, I feel better already. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Remembrance Day
Fine image, Frank, and thank you for remembering those who served Canada and the free world. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:37 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Went to the local cenotaph for yesterday's ceremonies. I might get a gallery together if I have time, but I thought I'd show the first one I processed: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/11/remembrance-day.html It was a moving ceremony. New Toronto is small, so it wasn't slick or long. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The moth - I desperately want to kick somebody in the nuts
OUCH! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com wrote: So I opened the FA135 up last night. On the outside it looked like Pentax service had never even gone inside. On the inside - sure they had been there. I bought the lens new from the local dealer around 2002, it was the last one in stock here but it was still new and from the dealer. Somebody had tried to force the back element open with the wrong instrument, markings on the barrel would suggest they failed. Also the moth stuff inside. Removed the aperture thingies only to find one of the biggest screws in there was badly damaged by somebody with background in changing wheels, not servicing fine instruments. Jackass, Philips power drivers should never ever be used on JIS screws. Aperture spring being glued in place and not swapped out for a new one is a minor nitpick in comparison. Didn't want to take it apart completely - helicoids and all - so I tried to unscrew the rear element with a properly softened large area of contact tool (just dumb oversized pliers with rubber pads) and it worked. So I removed the empty pupal case (no sight of moth itself) and all the debris. Here's a picture for those of you who got this far: http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=104 Properly cleaning the lens would require total disassembly and even then I don't know if it would be any good. Those monsters weave their cocoons and strands of that weave are between elements even further inside the lens. Even if I could open it up that far I don't know if I could completely remove everything. So that's it probably for this lens. I will test it against my other sample but there is no real reason for me to use it anyway when I have the other one. I don't see a good way to clean it so well that there is no sign of the moth ever being there so it can't be sold either. I might go through the adventure of disassembling it completely, cleaning it and putting it all together but I don't see that happening before the kids grow up :) Pentax should probably know about the sad state of service in Europe but I don't see a way to get this information to anybody who cares. If service at Pentax authorized service centers takes half a year and is performed by idiots who only make things worse, somebody should care, no? Oh well, I feel better already. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Local Club Scene
Exotic and quite appealing. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, I took this shot with my K20D and the AF 50/1.4 at ISO 800, wide-open in very low light: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8179916045/ I thought it was a pretty good shot, but just now noticed the hot pixels. Is the pixel-mapping relatively trouble-free? Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The moth - I desperately want to kick somebody in the nuts
If it is any consolation, Kris, my FA 20/2.8 got its focus ring jammed/stuck. Yesterday I rushed it to the local service. From the looks and the talk of the people there I should say I am not 100% sure they will be able to fix it. I sincerely hope they do, because it is a dandy optic which deserves to be put to good use. We will see how it progresses... I hope my story is not indicative of any general trend and your lens gets well soon. Sigma 20/1.8 has become my go-to shoot-everything lens lately despite its size and weight. That FL on the smaller sensor is growing on me. Really loved it on FF too for its FOV, shallow DOF and close focusing capability, but it's a completely different lens on FF anyway. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Local Club Scene
That's got a great mood. Where are you seeing hot pixels? Perhaps only visible in the full-rez file? I can't comment on hot-pixel fixing in the K20D. Haven't seen any, so never tried it. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, I took this shot with my K20D and the AF 50/1.4 at ISO 800, wide-open in very low light: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8179916045/ I thought it was a pretty good shot, but just now noticed the hot pixels. Is the pixel-mapping relatively trouble-free? Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
How to clean hot-shoe flash contacts?
In the recent past, my flash (Metz AF58-1) in combination with K-7 developed a problem. In some cases, I do not get the flash-ready confirmation symbol in the viewfinder. In other cases, even if I do get that confirmation at first, the flash (in PTTL mode) goes off full capacity, as if the PTTL did not work, yielding extremely overlit images. In those cases, often, on the subsequent shots, there is no flash confirmation symbol. All those problems can be fixed by tweaking the hotshoe in the socket (sliding it slightly in or out), but it takes a few times to find the right position. I am thinking if this can be fixed by cleaning the contacts. What are the options of cleaning the contacts besides the obvious of using a q-tip soaked in isopropanol? Any other thoughts on what else might be causing such hot-shoe issues? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to clean hot-shoe flash contacts?
I use an electronic contact cleaner spray which I apply with a Q-tip. Hosa D5S-6 DeoxIT, by Caig Laboratories. Dirty hotshoe contacts (and battery contacts too; don't forget those) are the source of practically all my flash misfires. It similarly affects the radio trigger devices. I'd be leery of using isopropanol though. Better than nothing, but I have found it may leave a non-conductive residue. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: In the recent past, my flash (Metz AF58-1) in combination with K-7 developed a problem. In some cases, I do not get the flash-ready confirmation symbol in the viewfinder. In other cases, even if I do get that confirmation at first, the flash (in PTTL mode) goes off full capacity, as if the PTTL did not work, yielding extremely overlit images. In those cases, often, on the subsequent shots, there is no flash confirmation symbol. All those problems can be fixed by tweaking the hotshoe in the socket (sliding it slightly in or out), but it takes a few times to find the right position. I am thinking if this can be fixed by cleaning the contacts. What are the options of cleaning the contacts besides the obvious of using a q-tip soaked in isopropanol? Any other thoughts on what else might be causing such hot-shoe issues? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: morning father, i'm sure you will be happy to do some cleanup before breakfast
Kris, It's a great photo, both my wife and I enjoyed it. Just entering that age, and having had the first few ouch moments, I also share the sentiment and the urgency for cleanup (or else..). Cheers, Igor On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: Thanks all for commenting. No hair clippers needed, just another friendly reminder to leave fingerpaint in front of the more permanent stuff every time. She did help cleaning up but as any parent of a 2-3year old will know, that is something that makes cleanup a couple times harder and more time-consuming but should be there as a learning experience. As to whether to have coffee before or after - having coffee after the cleanup minimizes the affected area a great deal, in fact, if you don't want to clean paint off of beds, curtains, cats, carpets, walls, door handles, floor, cupboards, toys, computers, windows, siblings and yourself (the list obviously can go on and on), you should really get to it as soon as possible :) kris Yes, what Frank said. I'll add adorable because I didn't have to partake in the cleaning up. I hope hair clippers weren't needed :) Dave What a beautiful, joyful photo. Love it! cheers, frank Everything is fine in the world if the prospect of major cleanup on a Saturday morning before coffee doesn't keep you from grabbing a few shots. http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=103 kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to clean hot-shoe flash contacts?
On 13/11/2012 11:09 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: In the recent past, my flash (Metz AF58-1) in combination with K-7 developed a problem. In some cases, I do not get the flash-ready confirmation symbol in the viewfinder. In other cases, even if I do get that confirmation at first, the flash (in PTTL mode) goes off full capacity, as if the PTTL did not work, yielding extremely overlit images. In those cases, often, on the subsequent shots, there is no flash confirmation symbol. All those problems can be fixed by tweaking the hotshoe in the socket (sliding it slightly in or out), but it takes a few times to find the right position. I am thinking if this can be fixed by cleaning the contacts. What are the options of cleaning the contacts besides the obvious of using a q-tip soaked in isopropanol? Any other thoughts on what else might be causing such hot-shoe issues? Igor I've always used a pencil eraser for cleaning contacts. It seems to work. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to clean hot-shoe flash contacts?
Bruce, Thank you. An electronic contact cleaner spray might be a good idea. I didn't think about it. Just a quick comment about isopropanol. You brought up an important point that can be overseen often. However, for the purpose of full disclosure, err. information: The amount of residue left behind by an evaporating solvent depends on the solvent, but even more depends on the purity of the solvent. The 70% isopropanol that is sold at a pharmacy as rubbing alcohol probably has plenty of impurities that don't evaporate. High purity (e.g. spectroscopic grade) solvents leave very small residue (between 1ppb and 1ppm, depending on the solvent). Isopropanol of high purity grades is frequently used for cleaning Ultra-high-vacuum (UHV) components for the reason that it leaves very small amount of residue on the surface, and also that it can be removed by baking the surface. Methanol that is used for the same purpose, while being more volatile overall, IIRC, may leave a bit more impurities behind. Many typical wafer cleaning procedures include IPA (isopropanol) or methanol as the last step, - to remove residues left by other solvents, e.g. acetone. Igor Tue Nov 13 12:29:00 EST 2012 Bruce Walker wrote: I use an electronic contact cleaner spray which I apply with a Q-tip. Hosa D5S-6 DeoxIT, by Caig Laboratories. Dirty hotshoe contacts (and battery contacts too; don't forget those) are the source of practically all my flash misfires. It similarly affects the radio trigger devices. I'd be leery of using isopropanol though. Better than nothing, but I have found it may leave a non-conductive residue. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: In the recent past, my flash (Metz AF58-1) in combination with K-7 developed a problem. In some cases, I do not get the flash-ready confirmation symbol in the viewfinder. In other cases, even if I do get that confirmation at first, the flash (in PTTL mode) goes off full capacity, as if the PTTL did not work, yielding extremely overlit images. In those cases, often, on the subsequent shots, there is no flash confirmation symbol. All those problems can be fixed by tweaking the hotshoe in the socket (sliding it slightly in or out), but it takes a few times to find the right position. I am thinking if this can be fixed by cleaning the contacts. What are the options of cleaning the contacts besides the obvious of using a q-tip soaked in isopropanol? Any other thoughts on what else might be causing such hot-shoe issues? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Local Club Scene
Thanks, Bruce. The hot pixels are at about 1 o'clock and 3 o'clock in relation to the third whiskey bottle in the line -- in the dark space. There are a couple of blue pixels that don't appear to be from a light source. I can see them in the smaller version of the image, but they are much more pronounced at full-resolution. Not a problem as far as cloning. They could be the result of the conditions and may not show up in other shots. From what I gather, the K20D has exhibited this issue in certain circumstances. Hopefully, pixel-mapping won't be necessary. Thanks again! -- Walt On 11/13/2012 10:54 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: That's got a great mood. Where are you seeing hot pixels? Perhaps only visible in the full-rez file? I can't comment on hot-pixel fixing in the K20D. Haven't seen any, so never tried it. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, I took this shot with my K20D and the AF 50/1.4 at ISO 800, wide-open in very low light: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8179916045/ I thought it was a pretty good shot, but just now noticed the hot pixels. Is the pixel-mapping relatively trouble-free? Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to clean hot-shoe flash contacts?
Igor, thanks. I was assuming that the majority of folks on the list would be in possession of rubbing alcohol rather then spectroscopic grade. :-) But in any event, part of what makes contact cleaner a better idea than either pure or impure isopropyl is what it _does_ leave on the surfaces: anti-oxidant lubricant. That prevents the contact surfaces from re-oxidizing right away. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Bruce, Thank you. An electronic contact cleaner spray might be a good idea. I didn't think about it. Just a quick comment about isopropanol. You brought up an important point that can be overseen often. However, for the purpose of full disclosure, err. information: The amount of residue left behind by an evaporating solvent depends on the solvent, but even more depends on the purity of the solvent. The 70% isopropanol that is sold at a pharmacy as rubbing alcohol probably has plenty of impurities that don't evaporate. High purity (e.g. spectroscopic grade) solvents leave very small residue (between 1ppb and 1ppm, depending on the solvent). Isopropanol of high purity grades is frequently used for cleaning Ultra-high-vacuum (UHV) components for the reason that it leaves very small amount of residue on the surface, and also that it can be removed by baking the surface. Methanol that is used for the same purpose, while being more volatile overall, IIRC, may leave a bit more impurities behind. Many typical wafer cleaning procedures include IPA (isopropanol) or methanol as the last step, - to remove residues left by other solvents, e.g. acetone. Igor Tue Nov 13 12:29:00 EST 2012 Bruce Walker wrote: I use an electronic contact cleaner spray which I apply with a Q-tip. Hosa D5S-6 DeoxIT, by Caig Laboratories. Dirty hotshoe contacts (and battery contacts too; don't forget those) are the source of practically all my flash misfires. It similarly affects the radio trigger devices. I'd be leery of using isopropanol though. Better than nothing, but I have found it may leave a non-conductive residue. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: In the recent past, my flash (Metz AF58-1) in combination with K-7 developed a problem. In some cases, I do not get the flash-ready confirmation symbol in the viewfinder. In other cases, even if I do get that confirmation at first, the flash (in PTTL mode) goes off full capacity, as if the PTTL did not work, yielding extremely overlit images. In those cases, often, on the subsequent shots, there is no flash confirmation symbol. All those problems can be fixed by tweaking the hotshoe in the socket (sliding it slightly in or out), but it takes a few times to find the right position. I am thinking if this can be fixed by cleaning the contacts. What are the options of cleaning the contacts besides the obvious of using a q-tip soaked in isopropanol? Any other thoughts on what else might be causing such hot-shoe issues? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Local Club Scene
Thank you, Dan! Although, if you were to actually go to the place, you'd see it's the furthest thing from exotic. ;) -- Walt On 11/13/2012 8:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Exotic and quite appealing. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, I took this shot with my K20D and the AF 50/1.4 at ISO 800, wide-open in very low light: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8179916045/ I thought it was a pretty good shot, but just now noticed the hot pixels. Is the pixel-mapping relatively trouble-free? Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
So, I've spotted an ad on a local bulletin board in which someone is selling a Sears SLR with four lenses (a prime and three zooms -- though I'm not sure of the range) for $50. From what I gather, Sears K-mount lenses generally have an extra pin that sometimes causes them to get stuck when mounted on Pentax bodies. I've seen some instructions for removing that pin, and wonder if anyone can offer advice before I decide to tackle the chore. Also, are Ricoh K-mount lenses fairly decent glass? Are they generally worth the trouble? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
Dont know about sears lenses, but Ive read that ricoh P lenses get stuck on pentax af bodies. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses So, I've spotted an ad on a local bulletin board in which someone is selling a Sears SLR with four lenses (a prime and three zooms -- though I'm not sure of the range) for $50. From what I gather, Sears K-mount lenses generally have an extra pin that sometimes causes them to get stuck when mounted on Pentax bodies. I've seen some instructions for removing that pin, and wonder if anyone can offer advice before I decide to tackle the chore. Also, are Ricoh K-mount lenses fairly decent glass? Are they generally worth the trouble? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
http://www.techtheman.com/2009/12/ricoh-pin-and-pentax-kr-mount.html Easy enough that even I could do it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
Thanks, Darren. I really don't see how I could go wrong at $50 -- unless they're such crappy lenses that I can never find a decent use for them. I still need to suss out some details on them, and will report back with my findings ASAP. On 11/13/2012 2:03 PM, Darren Addy wrote: http://www.techtheman.com/2009/12/ricoh-pin-and-pentax-kr-mount.html Easy enough that even I could do it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
It's my understanding -- albeit a grossly under-informed kind of understanding -- that most of the Sears SLRs were of the Ricoh mount variety. It'd sure be nice if they turned out to be PK mounts, though! -- Walt On 11/13/2012 1:52 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: Dont know about sears lenses, but Ive read that ricoh P lenses get stuck on pentax af bodies. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses So, I've spotted an ad on a local bulletin board in which someone is selling a Sears SLR with four lenses (a prime and three zooms -- though I'm not sure of the range) for $50. From what I gather, Sears K-mount lenses generally have an extra pin that sometimes causes them to get stuck when mounted on Pentax bodies. I've seen some instructions for removing that pin, and wonder if anyone can offer advice before I decide to tackle the chore. Also, are Ricoh K-mount lenses fairly decent glass? Are they generally worth the trouble? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Local Club Scene
If you click on View Large and search carefully, there are two very faint blue dots that might be the hot pixels. There are also two faint white dots that could be either hot pixels or very faint specular highlights. FWIW, the red line that accompanied the hot pixel on my K20D seems to have gone away again, and what appeared to be a blob of several bad pixels together in one spot has now become a single hot pixel. I'm able to remove it with a very tiny spot healing brush, so I haven't investigated pixel mapping. I'll be watching this thread. From: Bruce Walker That's got a great mood. Where are you seeing hot pixels? Perhaps only visible in the full-rez file? I can't comment on hot-pixel fixing in the K20D. Haven't seen any, so never tried it. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, I took this shot with my K20D and the AF 50/1.4 at ISO 800, wide-open in very low light: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8179916045/ I thought it was a pretty good shot, but just now noticed the hot pixels. Is the pixel-mapping relatively trouble-free? Thanks! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
Here's hoping the prime is a 55mm f1.4, Walt! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: How to clean hot-shoe flash contacts?
From: Igor Roshchin In the recent past, my flash (Metz AF58-1) in combination with K-7 developed a problem. In some cases, I do not get the flash-ready confirmation symbol in the viewfinder. In other cases, even if I do get that confirmation at first, the flash (in PTTL mode) goes off full capacity, as if the PTTL did not work, yielding extremely overlit images. In those cases, often, on the subsequent shots, there is no flash confirmation symbol. All those problems can be fixed by tweaking the hotshoe in the socket (sliding it slightly in or out), but it takes a few times to find the right position. I am thinking if this can be fixed by cleaning the contacts. What are the options of cleaning the contacts besides the obvious of using a q-tip soaked in isopropanol? Any other thoughts on what else might be causing such hot-shoe issues? Igor Try rubbing them with a pencil eraser. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
I think the Sears brand was a re-badged Ricoh. From: J.C. O'Connell Dont know about sears lenses, but Ive read that ricoh P lenses get stuck on pentax af bodies. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses So, I've spotted an ad on a local bulletin board in which someone is selling a Sears SLR with four lenses (a prime and three zooms -- though I'm not sure of the range) for $50. From what I gather, Sears K-mount lenses generally have an extra pin that sometimes causes them to get stuck when mounted on Pentax bodies. I've seen some instructions for removing that pin, and wonder if anyone can offer advice before I decide to tackle the chore. Also, are Ricoh K-mount lenses fairly decent glass? Are they generally worth the trouble? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
Oh, my -- that would be nice! I dare not get my hopes up quite that high. :) On 11/13/2012 2:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Here's hoping the prime is a 55mm f1.4, Walt! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
I can't tell for sure from your original post, but if it did not SAY a lens mount in the original post, it is quite possible that you will find it is a screwmount camera/lenses. Tomioka made the 55mm f1.4 that was found on many of those cameras (see: http://mattsclassiccameras.com/sears-ricoh_tls.html ) and I've also seen Mamiya-made variants (still have one with slow blades, if memory serves). If there is a K in the model name on the body, it is likely your K-R mount. You could still find a 50mm f1.4 on there, like this: http://mattsclassiccameras.com/sears_ks2.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
Yep. As best I can tell, the one I'm looking at is a Sears KS-1, which is apparently a clone of a Ricoh XR6. http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Ricoh_XR-6 -- Walt On 11/13/2012 2:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I think the Sears brand was a re-badged Ricoh. From: J.C. O'Connell Dont know about sears lenses, but Ive read that ricoh P lenses get stuck on pentax af bodies. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses So, I've spotted an ad on a local bulletin board in which someone is selling a Sears SLR with four lenses (a prime and three zooms -- though I'm not sure of the range) for $50. From what I gather, Sears K-mount lenses generally have an extra pin that sometimes causes them to get stuck when mounted on Pentax bodies. I've seen some instructions for removing that pin, and wonder if anyone can offer advice before I decide to tackle the chore. Also, are Ricoh K-mount lenses fairly decent glass? Are they generally worth the trouble? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
Well, that and the fact that I have a thing about old, manual-focus glass. :) I'm mostly concerned about getting one jammed on a body and going into hysterics, and secondarily, completely screwing up the lenses in the effort to remove the culpable pin. At the price, at least I won't be out much. And I'd really like to get a replacement for my old Tokina 28-200 SZ-X 3.5-5.3. I really liked that lens, but it's just falling to pieces. Something in that focal range would be nice. Fingers crossed. -- Walt On 11/13/2012 2:53 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Well, that camera was aperture priority automatic, so the lenses will likely not be A lenses, which gives it a bit of hit value-wise. Any kit with multiple lenses for $50 is worth looking at, but unless you've got a name zoom in their (like a Tamron, perhaps) or the prime isn't a f1.4, then I would think the deal is a bit marginal (depending on the zoom ranges of the lenses included and how they fit your current line-up). Of course, it is possible that some of the lenses will be A lenses that were obtained later and just weren't used in A mode on this particular camera body. Never know until you take a look! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to clean hot-shoe flash contacts?
I use a small piece of a Scotch-brite pad: http://www.scotch-brite.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Scotch-BriteBrand/Scotch-Brite/Products/Product-Catalog/~/Non-Scratch-Scour-Pad?N=5941615rt=rud DS On 14 November 2012 01:09, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: In the recent past, my flash (Metz AF58-1) in combination with K-7 developed a problem. In some cases, I do not get the flash-ready confirmation symbol in the viewfinder. In other cases, even if I do get that confirmation at first, the flash (in PTTL mode) goes off full capacity, as if the PTTL did not work, yielding extremely overlit images. In those cases, often, on the subsequent shots, there is no flash confirmation symbol. All those problems can be fixed by tweaking the hotshoe in the socket (sliding it slightly in or out), but it takes a few times to find the right position. I am thinking if this can be fixed by cleaning the contacts. What are the options of cleaning the contacts besides the obvious of using a q-tip soaked in isopropanol? Any other thoughts on what else might be causing such hot-shoe issues? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I think I might be lost.
I was looking for a church to photograph and ended up here. Even the GPS seemed confused at this intersection. http://donspix.posterous.com/a-sign-of-the-times-i-think-i-might-be-lost-p -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I think I might be lost.
I hope you left a trail of string behind you to follow back. Love it! On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking for a church to photograph and ended up here. Even the GPS seemed confused at this intersection. http://donspix.posterous.com/a-sign-of-the-times-i-think-i-might-be-lost-p -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to clean hot-shoe flash contacts?
A wire-wheel on an electric drill is pretty effective too. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:25 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: I use a small piece of a Scotch-brite pad: http://www.scotch-brite.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Scotch-BriteBrand/Scotch-Brite/Products/Product-Catalog/~/Non-Scratch-Scour-Pad?N=5941615rt=rud DS On 14 November 2012 01:09, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: In the recent past, my flash (Metz AF58-1) in combination with K-7 developed a problem. In some cases, I do not get the flash-ready confirmation symbol in the viewfinder. In other cases, even if I do get that confirmation at first, the flash (in PTTL mode) goes off full capacity, as if the PTTL did not work, yielding extremely overlit images. In those cases, often, on the subsequent shots, there is no flash confirmation symbol. All those problems can be fixed by tweaking the hotshoe in the socket (sliding it slightly in or out), but it takes a few times to find the right position. I am thinking if this can be fixed by cleaning the contacts. What are the options of cleaning the contacts besides the obvious of using a q-tip soaked in isopropanol? Any other thoughts on what else might be causing such hot-shoe issues? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to clean hot-shoe flash contacts?
I actually have used a small cotton swab with the tip dipped in Brasso to restore operation to badly corroded contacts, it can be a bit messy to clean up if it gets in crevices but if done carefully it removes the oxides without doing too much damage. On 14 November 2012 08:48, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: A wire-wheel on an electric drill is pretty effective too. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:25 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: I use a small piece of a Scotch-brite pad: http://www.scotch-brite.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Scotch-BriteBrand/Scotch-Brite/Products/Product-Catalog/~/Non-Scratch-Scour-Pad?N=5941615rt=rud DS On 14 November 2012 01:09, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: In the recent past, my flash (Metz AF58-1) in combination with K-7 developed a problem. In some cases, I do not get the flash-ready confirmation symbol in the viewfinder. In other cases, even if I do get that confirmation at first, the flash (in PTTL mode) goes off full capacity, as if the PTTL did not work, yielding extremely overlit images. In those cases, often, on the subsequent shots, there is no flash confirmation symbol. All those problems can be fixed by tweaking the hotshoe in the socket (sliding it slightly in or out), but it takes a few times to find the right position. I am thinking if this can be fixed by cleaning the contacts. What are the options of cleaning the contacts besides the obvious of using a q-tip soaked in isopropanol? Any other thoughts on what else might be causing such hot-shoe issues? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Partial Eclipse
I'm hoping somebody further north got some better photos than mine, but here they are anyway. http://www.multi.net.nz/partial-eclipse/ Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I think I might be lost.
On 13 November 2012 21:44, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking for a church to photograph and ended up here. Even the GPS seemed confused at this intersection. http://donspix.posterous.com/a-sign-of-the-times-i-think-i-might-be-lost-p Super! Those town planners don't know when to stop giving us information. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I think I might be lost.
On 13 November 2012 21:44, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking for a church to photograph and ended up here. Even the GPS seemed confused at this intersection. Clearly, you can't get there from there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I think I might be lost.
I think I can see their thinking: wherever you are coming from, you can't see the sign for Baxter St. which is at right angles to you. The only flaw is that they haven't provided signs for every street at all angles (unless there are similar signs on every corner)! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 9:04 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I think I might be lost. On 13 November 2012 21:44, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking for a church to photograph and ended up here. Even the GPS seemed confused at this intersection. Clearly, you can't get there from there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I think I might be lost.
Correction - you can't see the sign which is edge-on to you! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Coyle Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 9:22 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: I think I might be lost. I think I can see their thinking: wherever you are coming from, you can't see the sign for Baxter St. which is at right angles to you. The only flaw is that they haven't provided signs for every street at all angles (unless there are similar signs on every corner)! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 9:04 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I think I might be lost. On 13 November 2012 21:44, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking for a church to photograph and ended up here. Even the GPS seemed confused at this intersection. Clearly, you can't get there from there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Partial Eclipse
Interesting shots Dave On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:42 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: I'm hoping somebody further north got some better photos than mine, but here they are anyway. http://www.multi.net.nz/partial-eclipse/ Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Local Club Scene
Love this Dave On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, I took this shot with my K20D and the AF 50/1.4 at ISO 800, wide-open in very low light: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8179916045/ I thought it was a pretty good shot, but just now noticed the hot pixels. Is the pixel-mapping relatively trouble-free? Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Partial Eclipse
We used to do sun shots in a similar manner as your binocular and paper shot, or one of these: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/WILD-HEERBRUGG-NACH-PROF-ROELOFS-ACCESSORY-DEVICE-FLIP-UP-EYEPIECE-PART-RARE-NR-/181024175191?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a25e1b457 Dave On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:42 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: I'm hoping somebody further north got some better photos than mine, but here they are anyway. http://www.multi.net.nz/partial-eclipse/ Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Partial Eclipse
Nice work Dave, it was very overcast in Sydney so we missed the event basically. PS those binoculars have some pretty severe lateral CA ;) Cheers, On 14 November 2012 10:50, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: We used to do sun shots in a similar manner as your binocular and paper shot, or one of these: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/WILD-HEERBRUGG-NACH-PROF-ROELOFS-ACCESSORY-DEVICE-FLIP-UP-EYEPIECE-PART-RARE-NR-/181024175191?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a25e1b457 Dave On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:42 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: I'm hoping somebody further north got some better photos than mine, but here they are anyway. http://www.multi.net.nz/partial-eclipse/ Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I think I might be lost.
Quoting Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com: I was looking for a church to photograph and ended up here. Even the GPS seemed confused at this intersection. http://donspix.posterous.com/a-sign-of-the-times-i-think-i-might-be-lost-p Classic. And a perfect candidate for the August 2013 PUG... -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Partial Eclipse
Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com: I'm hoping somebody further north got some better photos than mine, but here they are anyway. http://www.multi.net.nz/partial-eclipse/ Well done. Apparently it was pretty spectacular in and around Cairns in Nth Queensland with clouds lifting at just the right time. I don't think we have any PDMLers that far north. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Local Club Scene
Many thanks, Dave! :) -- Walt On 11/13/2012 5:45 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Love this Dave On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, I took this shot with my K20D and the AF 50/1.4 at ISO 800, wide-open in very low light: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8179916045/ I thought it was a pretty good shot, but just now noticed the hot pixels. Is the pixel-mapping relatively trouble-free? Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The moth - I desperately want to kick somebody in the nuts
Since you have already replaced it, it would be interesting to see a side by side test of it, and the new one. On Nov 13, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: If it is any consolation, Kris, my FA 20/2.8 got its focus ring jammed/stuck. Yesterday I rushed it to the local service. From the looks and the talk of the people there I should say I am not 100% sure they will be able to fix it. I sincerely hope they do, because it is a dandy optic which deserves to be put to good use. We will see how it progresses... I hope my story is not indicative of any general trend and your lens gets well soon. Sigma 20/1.8 has become my go-to shoot-everything lens lately despite its size and weight. That FL on the smaller sensor is growing on me. Really loved it on FF too for its FOV, shallow DOF and close focusing capability, but it's a completely different lens on FF anyway. I have very mixed feelings about my 20/1.8. The manual focus on it often, but not always feels utterly horrible. Autofocus on it is mixed, sometimes it works, sometimes not. I got it for indoor low light shooting, and it is almost totally useless for that, though it would be interesting to see how the K5-II handles focusing it in low light. However, when it is the right lens, it does wonderfully. It is also nice to have a wide macroish lens. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Potential enablement: Sears camera w/ R-K mount lenses
OK, so I just picked up these lenses for $50: Sears 50mm f/2 Sears 135mm f/2.8 Sears 28-85 f/3.5-4.5 Sears 80-200mm f/4 All are PK mounts except for the 28-85, which is the dreaded Ricoh K. I haven't been able to find my precision screwdriver set, or I'd go ahead and pop out the pin. In any event, all the lenses are in excellent shape, save for a little gummy residue on the retractable lens hood on the 135 f/2.8 where there appears to have been a sticker that was peeled off. Unfortunately, none are A lenses, but I still feel I did pretty well for fifty bones. -- Walt On 11/13/2012 2:46 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I can't tell for sure from your original post, but if it did not SAY a lens mount in the original post, it is quite possible that you will find it is a screwmount camera/lenses. Tomioka made the 55mm f1.4 that was found on many of those cameras (see: http://mattsclassiccameras.com/sears-ricoh_tls.html ) and I've also seen Mamiya-made variants (still have one with slow blades, if memory serves). If there is a K in the model name on the body, it is likely your K-R mount. You could still find a 50mm f1.4 on there, like this: http://mattsclassiccameras.com/sears_ks2.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - In the Dungeon
The dungeon is the nickname for the central mailroom at on of Toronto's larger office complexes. Here bike messenger Kai reads a paper as she awaits her next call: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/11/in-dungeon.html?m=0 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Remembrance Day
Dan, Jack, thanks for the kind words. I hate war but I appreciate the sacrifices our fighting men and women made for this country. I thank them personally at events such as this. Sadly, they tell me they don't get much thanks these days. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: November 13, 2012 11/13/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Remembrance Day Fine image, Frank, and thank you for remembering those who served Canada and the free world. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:37 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Went to the local cenotaph for yesterday's ceremonies. I might get a gallery together if I have time, but I thought I'd show the first one I processed: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/11/remembrance-day.html It was a moving ceremony. New Toronto is small, so it wasn't slick or long. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Local Club Scene
Brilliant! Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com Sent: November 13, 2012 11/13/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Local Club Scene So, I took this shot with my K20D and the AF 50/1.4 at ISO 800, wide-open in very low light: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8179916045/ I thought it was a pretty good shot, but just now noticed the hot pixels. Is the pixel-mapping relatively trouble-free? Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Partial Eclipse
On Nov 14, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work Dave, it was very overcast in Sydney so we missed the event basically. PS those binoculars have some pretty severe lateral CA ;) They're doing alright considering they were given to me for Xmas when I was 9. Plus the paper was flat against the ground so it wasn't even in the right plane... I'm wondering if Alastair or Tanya got anything. I wasn't really taking the photos seriously but was enjoying the general spectacle instead. Some of the photos featured on the news sites were of a huge blown-out area around the sun, with a pretty bit of eclipse-shaped flare. Interesting effect but it might be hard to do well with a Pentax lens. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Remembrance Day
On Nov 14, 2012, at 4:06 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I hate war but I appreciate the sacrifices our fighting men and women made for this country. I thank them personally at events such as this. I'm of much the same feeling. My wife and I both have grandfathers who have incredible stories of survival from WWII. It's amazing they both came out intact. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Enablement/Replacement!
On Friday a package arrived in the post. In it was a K10D with 18-55 WR zoom. As a result of a below market value transaction made with a list member I have secured a replacement for my old K10D lost last month. In fact, this is more than a replacement; the body is in spectacular condition and the zoom is the WR version. As I don't shy away from shooting in soggy conditions this will be a real plus for me. As much as I love my venerable *istD, it is nice to have the more extensive feature set of the K10D. I should mention that several approached me with kind offers of below market value equipment. Thanks to each of you. This is certainly a wonderful community! cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Mini-GESO: Front Porch Photography - 11/13/12 (3 photos)
The light seemed a little warmer than usual this afternoon, so I grabbed the K20D with the FA 50/1.4 and headed out across the highway to see what the horses were up to. Here are the three shots I came back with. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157632003880209/ It really is a wonderful little lens. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Local Club Scene
Thanks so much, Frank! :) -- Walt On 11/13/2012 9:12 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Brilliant! Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com Sent: November 13, 2012 11/13/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Local Club Scene So, I took this shot with my K20D and the AF 50/1.4 at ISO 800, wide-open in very low light: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8179916045/ I thought it was a pretty good shot, but just now noticed the hot pixels. Is the pixel-mapping relatively trouble-free? Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement/Replacement!
That's just great, Frank! I'm elated for you. And, yes, it is a wonderful community. Couldn't agree more. -- Walt On 11/13/2012 10:17 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday a package arrived in the post. In it was a K10D with 18-55 WR zoom. As a result of a below market value transaction made with a list member I have secured a replacement for my old K10D lost last month. In fact, this is more than a replacement; the body is in spectacular condition and the zoom is the WR version. As I don't shy away from shooting in soggy conditions this will be a real plus for me. As much as I love my venerable *istD, it is nice to have the more extensive feature set of the K10D. I should mention that several approached me with kind offers of below market value equipment. Thanks to each of you. This is certainly a wonderful community! cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - In the Dungeon
Frank, I like that. Lots of personality. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:02 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The dungeon is the nickname for the central mailroom at on of Toronto's larger office complexes. Here bike messenger Kai reads a paper as she awaits her next call: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/11/in-dungeon.html?m=0 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Partial Eclipse
Dave, Your photos of the eclipse reminded me of one I saw as a child of 8 or 10. The crescent shaped highlights of light thru the trees was the same here. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:48 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 14, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work Dave, it was very overcast in Sydney so we missed the event basically. PS those binoculars have some pretty severe lateral CA ;) They're doing alright considering they were given to me for Xmas when I was 9. Plus the paper was flat against the ground so it wasn't even in the right plane... I'm wondering if Alastair or Tanya got anything. I wasn't really taking the photos seriously but was enjoying the general spectacle instead. Some of the photos featured on the news sites were of a huge blown-out area around the sun, with a pretty bit of eclipse-shaped flare. Interesting effect but it might be hard to do well with a Pentax lens. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mini-GESO: Front Porch Photography - 11/13/12 (3 photos)
Walt, I especially like the tree. Horses are nice too. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: The light seemed a little warmer than usual this afternoon, so I grabbed the K20D with the FA 50/1.4 and headed out across the highway to see what the horses were up to. Here are the three shots I came back with. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157632003880209/ It really is a wonderful little lens. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement/Replacement!
That's great news, Frank. The WR zoom version seems to arrive just in time for the rain/snow season :-). Cheers! Boris On 11/14/2012 6:17 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday a package arrived in the post. In it was a K10D with 18-55 WR zoom. As a result of a below market value transaction made with a list member I have secured a replacement for my old K10D lost last month. In fact, this is more than a replacement; the body is in spectacular condition and the zoom is the WR version. As I don't shy away from shooting in soggy conditions this will be a real plus for me. As much as I love my venerable *istD, it is nice to have the more extensive feature set of the K10D. I should mention that several approached me with kind offers of below market value equipment. Thanks to each of you. This is certainly a wonderful community! cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mini-GESO: Front Porch Photography - 11/13/12 (3 photos)
Thank you, Bob. I was less than enamored with the tree shot at first, but it's starting to grow on me. -- Walt On 11/13/2012 10:43 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Walt, I especially like the tree. Horses are nice too. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: The light seemed a little warmer than usual this afternoon, so I grabbed the K20D with the FA 50/1.4 and headed out across the highway to see what the horses were up to. Here are the three shots I came back with. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157632003880209/ It really is a wonderful little lens. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FYI - Fiscal Cliff for K-01 prices
Prices for K-01 are slashed at BH and Adorama: camera only, - $347, with 40mm lens - $447. That must be what everybody is calling a fiscal cliff! Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FYI - Fiscal Cliff for K-01 prices
Oops.. Sorry, - it looks like it's an old news... .. and a bunch of stores have had it at about those prices for about 2 weeks (including Amazon, Walmart [black body only], Pentaxwebstore.com, and even Bestbuy). BTW, for those who are concerned about brick-and-mortar stores selling Pentax equipment, - Bestbuy came close: it's a brick-and-mortar store that sells Pentax equipment online (only). But it's probably a good sign anyway... Igor Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:33:35 -0500 (EST) From: Igor Roshchin Prices for K-01 are slashed at BH and Adorama: camera only, - $347, with 40mm lens - $447. That must be what everybody is calling a fiscal cliff! Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - In the Dungeon
Nice portrait; She looks very young. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:02 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The dungeon is the nickname for the central mailroom at on of Toronto's larger office complexes. Here bike messenger Kai reads a paper as she awaits her next call: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/11/in-dungeon.html?m=0 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mini-GESO: Front Porch Photography - 11/13/12 (3 photos)
Nice gallery, wonderful light. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: The light seemed a little warmer than usual this afternoon, so I grabbed the K20D with the FA 50/1.4 and headed out across the highway to see what the horses were up to. Here are the three shots I came back with. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157632003880209/ It really is a wonderful little lens. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Partial Eclipse
i was doing job interviews so missed it all! Alastair On 14 November 2012 17:40, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, Your photos of the eclipse reminded me of one I saw as a child of 8 or 10. The crescent shaped highlights of light thru the trees was the same here. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:48 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 14, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work Dave, it was very overcast in Sydney so we missed the event basically. PS those binoculars have some pretty severe lateral CA ;) They're doing alright considering they were given to me for Xmas when I was 9. Plus the paper was flat against the ground so it wasn't even in the right plane... I'm wondering if Alastair or Tanya got anything. I wasn't really taking the photos seriously but was enjoying the general spectacle instead. Some of the photos featured on the news sites were of a huge blown-out area around the sun, with a pretty bit of eclipse-shaped flare. Interesting effect but it might be hard to do well with a Pentax lens. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
