OT - aviation photog

2014-02-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
This is on DPReview at the moment, very nicely put together video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTpz8m8reCg#t=138

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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Bruce Walker
Ps CS5 and CS6 won't keep working forever. Eventually a Mac OS upgrade
will break them, so we casual or non-biz Ps users now must be
prepared.

Adobe has apparently seen the wisdom of stepping down as the software
giant and breaking their own virtual monopoly on photo editors. We
should praise them for being so altruistic, I suppose.

I'm hoping that one of the other editors will become sufficiently
competitive soon and I'll be able to replace Ps in my workflow.


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 Well, if you have it and it does the job, why gripe about CC?
 I have PSCS 5.1 .. Does the job nicely, the little I use it. On that basis, 
 CC doesn't bother me at all.

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Re: PESO: Today's Report

2014-02-02 Thread Attila Boros
You need to put a tablet / laptop thingy next to it running windoze
Metro interface with live tiles and it would be hilarious:)

On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is the Blackboard they keep poolside at our condo.
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17670093
 Comments are invited.

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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course Adobe won’t miss a chance to provide us with product for a hefty fee. 
 Whether it’s called PhotoShop or Elements, web-based or installed,  I’m sure 
that we’ll be able to keep working with a somewhat familiar software solution.

Paul
On Feb 2, 2014, at 5:34 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ps CS5 and CS6 won't keep working forever. Eventually a Mac OS upgrade
 will break them, so we casual or non-biz Ps users now must be
 prepared.
 
 Adobe has apparently seen the wisdom of stepping down as the software
 giant and breaking their own virtual monopoly on photo editors. We
 should praise them for being so altruistic, I suppose.
 
 I'm hoping that one of the other editors will become sufficiently
 competitive soon and I'll be able to replace Ps in my workflow.
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 Well, if you have it and it does the job, why gripe about CC?
 I have PSCS 5.1 .. Does the job nicely, the little I use it. On that basis, 
 CC doesn't bother me at all.
 
 Godfrey
 
 
 My model was to buy a copy then upgrade it after 2-4 years. To compare
 to that CC would have to cost me less than $5 a month (forever). The
 current model will charge me $20/month forever. Not reasonable.
 
 
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Re: OT - aviation photog

2014-02-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow!  Great fun!  Thanks for posting, Cotty!  She’s my new hero!  :-)  Cheers, 
Christine


On Feb 2, 2014, at 4:29 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 This is on DPReview at the moment, very nicely put together video:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTpz8m8reCg#t=138
 
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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

2014-02-02 Thread Mark C
Nice shot - it reminds me of an old photo you might in a shoe box and 
spend some time trying to decipher.


On 1/31/2014 7:21 AM, knarf wrote:

We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow.

Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race face 
on:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1

He didn't win.  ;-)

But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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PDML Photo Annual Update

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
We're about half way through the submission period - you have until
the end of February - so there's still time for you to submit your
three photos (or shoot them!)

We have some very good material already but we'll happily add yours to
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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Sullivan wrote:

Adobe doesn't have my confidence either.
Anybody who wants to get in my machine every time I sign on is not my friend.
And, there is a new version of the PDF reader they want to download every time.
I believe that is bullshit.

Acrobat Reader is a malware vector, too. Best avoided.

I use Foxit PDF reader. It's free, fast and the latest version lets
you create PDF files as well as read them. It probably doesn't support
all the tricky features that Adobe's been ladling into Acrobat over
the past few years (and which even a fairly advanced user such as
myself has never needed), but then that's why it's safer.

Really superb software. Highly recommended. I've deleted Acrobat Pro
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Re: OT - aviation photog

2014-02-02 Thread Bruce Walker
Very cool.

On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 This is on DPReview at the moment, very nicely put together video:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTpz8m8reCg#t=138

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Re: Wilder ranch reprocessed

2014-02-02 Thread John
If you squint just the tiniest bit, the subject line becomes Wilder 
ranch repossessed.


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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Bruce Walker
Paul, you're right about masks. I just reviewed my PSE 11 install to
check a few things, and sure enough layer masks are supported. But
there is simply a myriad of important workflow things missing, like:
second monitor support; brush flow; 16-bit support; Curves
adjustments; ProPhoto RGB; ...

How could something so basic as Curves not be there?
Brushing with a mouse is almost impossible without adjustable flow. (I
can't use a tablet.)

I'm sure I could eventually adapt to it, probably with the assistance
of some plugins.


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 From a photographic standpoint, a combination of LR and PSE will satisfy
 most needs.  You can warp using the skew, free transform and liquify tools
 and later versions of PSE support masking directly.  You could mask with
 earlier versions by linking an adjustment layer to a pixel layer.

 Add to that onOne software's Perfect Photo Suite and you have major retouch
 and masking capabilities.

 -p


 On 2/1/2014 3:52 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:



 None of these packages offer both layers, with all the Ps layer
 blending modes, and masks. The fact that Ps Elements lacks masking
 completely removes it from contention for retouching, for example.
 Even the fact it cannot warp a layer is a show-stopper.


 But if you really really must have Photoshop CS and the latest version,
 you have no choice but to suck it up and pay for the privilege. You do
 anyway if you buy a copy and then keep it updated properly with a
 perpetual license.


 I don't need the latest version. I need a capable version. CS5 suits me.

 My model was to buy a copy then upgrade it after 2-4 years. To compare
 to that CC would have to cost me less than $5 a month (forever). The
 current model will charge me $20/month forever. Not reasonable.


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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Boris Liberman
I concur. I don't even remember when was the last time I was running
the Adobe PDF reader. For several years I'm also using Foxit
(Portable). Prior to that I used some other viewer, but certainly not
Adobe's. I think it was around version 6.0 of Adobe Reader that I
stopped using it.

On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Bob Sullivan wrote:

Adobe doesn't have my confidence either.
Anybody who wants to get in my machine every time I sign on is not my friend.
And, there is a new version of the PDF reader they want to download every 
time.
I believe that is bullshit.

 Acrobat Reader is a malware vector, too. Best avoided.

 I use Foxit PDF reader. It's free, fast and the latest version lets
 you create PDF files as well as read them. It probably doesn't support
 all the tricky features that Adobe's been ladling into Acrobat over
 the past few years (and which even a fairly advanced user such as
 myself has never needed), but then that's why it's safer.

 Really superb software. Highly recommended. I've deleted Acrobat Pro
 and Acrobat Reader from my system.

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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread John
Bottom line for me has been that the cost doubled with the update to 
CS6, and Creative Cloud means the cost will double again.


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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I need Adobe Acrobat Pro and find it quite useful and easy to use. I frequently 
get PDF contracts and other docs from clients that call for additions and a 
signature. Much easier to use Acrobat than to convert the PDF to another format 
to work with it. 

Paul
On Feb 2, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 I concur. I don't even remember when was the last time I was running
 the Adobe PDF reader. For several years I'm also using Foxit
 (Portable). Prior to that I used some other viewer, but certainly not
 Adobe's. I think it was around version 6.0 of Adobe Reader that I
 stopped using it.
 
 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com 
 wrote:
 Bob Sullivan wrote:
 
 Adobe doesn't have my confidence either.
 Anybody who wants to get in my machine every time I sign on is not my 
 friend.
 And, there is a new version of the PDF reader they want to download every 
 time.
 I believe that is bullshit.
 
 Acrobat Reader is a malware vector, too. Best avoided.
 
 I use Foxit PDF reader. It's free, fast and the latest version lets
 you create PDF files as well as read them. It probably doesn't support
 all the tricky features that Adobe's been ladling into Acrobat over
 the past few years (and which even a fairly advanced user such as
 myself has never needed), but then that's why it's safer.
 
 Really superb software. Highly recommended. I've deleted Acrobat Pro
 and Acrobat Reader from my system.
 
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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I couldn’t work without curves, brush flow and my second monitor. And 16-bit 
support is a big plus as well. I’ll go to the cloud version of PS at some point 
if I have to, but will continue with PS 6 until the need is critical.

Paul
On Feb 2, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Paul, you're right about masks. I just reviewed my PSE 11 install to
 check a few things, and sure enough layer masks are supported. But
 there is simply a myriad of important workflow things missing, like:
 second monitor support; brush flow; 16-bit support; Curves
 adjustments; ProPhoto RGB; ...
 
 How could something so basic as Curves not be there?
 Brushing with a mouse is almost impossible without adjustable flow. (I
 can't use a tablet.)
 
 I'm sure I could eventually adapt to it, probably with the assistance
 of some plugins.
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 From a photographic standpoint, a combination of LR and PSE will satisfy
 most needs.  You can warp using the skew, free transform and liquify tools
 and later versions of PSE support masking directly.  You could mask with
 earlier versions by linking an adjustment layer to a pixel layer.
 
 Add to that onOne software's Perfect Photo Suite and you have major retouch
 and masking capabilities.
 
 -p
 
 
 On 2/1/2014 3:52 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 
 
 None of these packages offer both layers, with all the Ps layer
 blending modes, and masks. The fact that Ps Elements lacks masking
 completely removes it from contention for retouching, for example.
 Even the fact it cannot warp a layer is a show-stopper.
 
 
 But if you really really must have Photoshop CS and the latest version,
 you have no choice but to suck it up and pay for the privilege. You do
 anyway if you buy a copy and then keep it updated properly with a
 perpetual license.
 
 
 I don't need the latest version. I need a capable version. CS5 suits me.
 
 My model was to buy a copy then upgrade it after 2-4 years. To compare
 to that CC would have to cost me less than $5 a month (forever). The
 current model will charge me $20/month forever. Not reasonable.
 
 
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PESO: Sticky Snow

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
We got another 8 inches of wet snow that hangs nicely on the branches. No good 
light to go with it, but that’s a rare combination in winter.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17671423

More than two feet on the ground here now. More in drifts. Ready for spring.

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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

I need Adobe Acrobat Pro and find it quite useful and easy to use. I 
frequently 
get PDF contracts and other docs from clients that call for additions and a 
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The latest version of Foxit does all that.
 
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Re: Pentax 1.4x converter

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph McAllister wrote:

Definitely not a Pentax product shot, beta or whatever.

In about two weeks we'll find out for certain. I'm pretty sure you're
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Re: OT - aviation photog

2014-02-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
A young Moose Petersen?
Great plane shots.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sounds like good advice Mark.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Bob Sullivan wrote:

Adobe doesn't have my confidence either.
Anybody who wants to get in my machine every time I sign on is not my friend.
And, there is a new version of the PDF reader they want to download every 
time.
I believe that is bullshit.

 Acrobat Reader is a malware vector, too. Best avoided.

 I use Foxit PDF reader. It's free, fast and the latest version lets
 you create PDF files as well as read them. It probably doesn't support
 all the tricky features that Adobe's been ladling into Acrobat over
 the past few years (and which even a fairly advanced user such as
 myself has never needed), but then that's why it's safer.

 Really superb software. Highly recommended. I've deleted Acrobat Pro
 and Acrobat Reader from my system.

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Re: PESO: Sticky Snow

2014-02-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
The light is on the way Paul.  I'll pass it along from Sunny Chicago.  Bob S.

On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 We got another 8 inches of wet snow that hangs nicely on the branches. No 
 good light to go with it, but that's a rare combination in winter.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17671423

 More than two feet on the ground here now. More in drifts. Ready for spring.

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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
What is a malware vector? I've never had a problem with Acrobat. Been using 
it forever, probably more than twenty years.

Paul via phone

 On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sounds like good advice Mark.  Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Bob Sullivan wrote:
 
 Adobe doesn't have my confidence either.
 Anybody who wants to get in my machine every time I sign on is not my 
 friend.
 And, there is a new version of the PDF reader they want to download every 
 time.
 I believe that is bullshit.
 
 Acrobat Reader is a malware vector, too. Best avoided.
 
 I use Foxit PDF reader. It's free, fast and the latest version lets
 you create PDF files as well as read them. It probably doesn't support
 all the tricky features that Adobe's been ladling into Acrobat over
 the past few years (and which even a fairly advanced user such as
 myself has never needed), but then that's why it's safer.
 
 Really superb software. Highly recommended. I've deleted Acrobat Pro
 and Acrobat Reader from my system.
 
 --
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 www.robertstech.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Bob W
Surely you've heard of every viable virus vector, Victor?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362351,00.asp

B

 On 2 Feb 2014, at 17:56, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What is a malware vector? I've never had a problem with Acrobat. Been using 
 it forever, probably more than twenty years.
 
 Paul via phone
 
 On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sounds like good advice Mark.  Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Bob Sullivan wrote:
 
 Adobe doesn't have my confidence either.
 Anybody who wants to get in my machine every time I sign on is not my 
 friend.
 And, there is a new version of the PDF reader they want to download every 
 time.
 I believe that is bullshit.
 
 Acrobat Reader is a malware vector, too. Best avoided.
 
 I use Foxit PDF reader. It's free, fast and the latest version lets
 you create PDF files as well as read them. It probably doesn't support
 all the tricky features that Adobe's been ladling into Acrobat over
 the past few years (and which even a fairly advanced user such as
 myself has never needed), but then that's why it's safer.
 
 Really superb software. Highly recommended. I've deleted Acrobat Pro
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Re: PESO: Sticky Snow

2014-02-02 Thread Kenneth Waller
The news is reporting the all time monthly snow record for SE Michigan was 
broken last month - something a little shy of 40 inches for the month. The 
season total is around 55 inches so far. The average for a winter season in 
Detroit is 42 inches


-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: PESO: Sticky Snow

We got another 8 inches of wet snow that hangs nicely on the branches. No good 
light to go with it, but that’s a rare combination in winter.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17671423

More than two feet on the ground here now. More in drifts. Ready for spring.



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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Mark C
Wouldn't second monitor support be an OS function independent of the 
application itself? Does PSE not let you pull the palates and images 
wherever you want on the screen?  I agree that the lack of curves and 16 
bit support is severely crippling


On 2/2/2014 11:23 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Paul, you're right about masks. I just reviewed my PSE 11 install to
check a few things, and sure enough layer masks are supported. But
there is simply a myriad of important workflow things missing, like:
second monitor support; brush flow; 16-bit support; Curves
adjustments; ProPhoto RGB; ...

How could something so basic as Curves not be there?
Brushing with a mouse is almost impossible without adjustable flow. (I
can't use a tablet.)

I'm sure I could eventually adapt to it, probably with the assistance
of some plugins.


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:

 From a photographic standpoint, a combination of LR and PSE will satisfy
most needs.  You can warp using the skew, free transform and liquify tools
and later versions of PSE support masking directly.  You could mask with
earlier versions by linking an adjustment layer to a pixel layer.

Add to that onOne software's Perfect Photo Suite and you have major retouch
and masking capabilities.

-p


On 2/1/2014 3:52 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:



None of these packages offer both layers, with all the Ps layer
blending modes, and masks. The fact that Ps Elements lacks masking
completely removes it from contention for retouching, for example.
Even the fact it cannot warp a layer is a show-stopper.



But if you really really must have Photoshop CS and the latest version,
you have no choice but to suck it up and pay for the privilege. You do
anyway if you buy a copy and then keep it updated properly with a
perpetual license.


I don't need the latest version. I need a capable version. CS5 suits me.

My model was to buy a copy then upgrade it after 2-4 years. To compare
to that CC would have to cost me less than $5 a month (forever). The
current model will charge me $20/month forever. Not reasonable.


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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
So an executable file can be attached to a PDF. Good thing an executable won’t 
run on a Mac.

Paul
On Feb 2, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 Surely you've heard of every viable virus vector, Victor?
 
 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362351,00.asp
 
 B
 
 On 2 Feb 2014, at 17:56, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 What is a malware vector? I've never had a problem with Acrobat. Been 
 using it forever, probably more than twenty years.
 
 Paul via phone
 
 On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sounds like good advice Mark.  Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Bob Sullivan wrote:
 
 Adobe doesn't have my confidence either.
 Anybody who wants to get in my machine every time I sign on is not my 
 friend.
 And, there is a new version of the PDF reader they want to download every 
 time.
 I believe that is bullshit.
 
 Acrobat Reader is a malware vector, too. Best avoided.
 
 I use Foxit PDF reader. It's free, fast and the latest version lets
 you create PDF files as well as read them. It probably doesn't support
 all the tricky features that Adobe's been ladling into Acrobat over
 the past few years (and which even a fairly advanced user such as
 myself has never needed), but then that's why it's safer.
 
 Really superb software. Highly recommended. I've deleted Acrobat Pro
 and Acrobat Reader from my system.
 
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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Bruce Walker
The app window contains all the sub windows. I was unable to drag
anything outside of it. Maybe I missed something ... ?

In full Photoshop there are menus for enabling the second monitor and
how it will display on it. No such menus in PSE.

Lightroom has explicit 2nd monitor support too.

On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 Wouldn't second monitor support be an OS function independent of the
 application itself? Does PSE not let you pull the palates and images
 wherever you want on the screen?  I agree that the lack of curves and 16 bit
 support is severely crippling


 On 2/2/2014 11:23 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Paul, you're right about masks. I just reviewed my PSE 11 install to
 check a few things, and sure enough layer masks are supported. But
 there is simply a myriad of important workflow things missing, like:
 second monitor support; brush flow; 16-bit support; Curves
 adjustments; ProPhoto RGB; ...

 How could something so basic as Curves not be there?
 Brushing with a mouse is almost impossible without adjustable flow. (I
 can't use a tablet.)

 I'm sure I could eventually adapt to it, probably with the assistance
 of some plugins.


 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  From a photographic standpoint, a combination of LR and PSE will satisfy
 most needs.  You can warp using the skew, free transform and liquify
 tools
 and later versions of PSE support masking directly.  You could mask with
 earlier versions by linking an adjustment layer to a pixel layer.

 Add to that onOne software's Perfect Photo Suite and you have major
 retouch
 and masking capabilities.

 -p


 On 2/1/2014 3:52 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


 None of these packages offer both layers, with all the Ps layer
 blending modes, and masks. The fact that Ps Elements lacks masking
 completely removes it from contention for retouching, for example.
 Even the fact it cannot warp a layer is a show-stopper.


 But if you really really must have Photoshop CS and the latest version,
 you have no choice but to suck it up and pay for the privilege. You do
 anyway if you buy a copy and then keep it updated properly with a
 perpetual license.


 I don't need the latest version. I need a capable version. CS5 suits me.

 My model was to buy a copy then upgrade it after 2-4 years. To compare
 to that CC would have to cost me less than $5 a month (forever). The
 current model will charge me $20/month forever. Not reasonable.

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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

So an executable file can be attached to a PDF. Good thing an executable won’t 
run on a Mac.

There are Mac-specific variations on this technique. For most of us,
though, we only need to worry about PDF files downloaded from unknown
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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread steve harley

on 2014-02-02 12:46 Mark Roberts wrote

Paul Stenquist wrote:


So an executable file can be attached to a PDF. Good thing an executable won’t 
run on a Mac.


There are Mac-specific variations on this technique. For most of us,
though, we only need to worry about PDF files downloaded from unknown
sources.


s/unknown/untrusted/



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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have no reason to download unknown PDFs,, so I guess I can stick with the 
familiar Acrobat Pro.

Paul via phone

 On Feb 2, 2014, at 3:35 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 
 on 2014-02-02 12:46 Mark Roberts wrote
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 So an executable file can be attached to a PDF. Good thing an executable 
 won’t run on a Mac.
 
 There are Mac-specific variations on this technique. For most of us,
 though, we only need to worry about PDF files downloaded from unknown
 sources.
 
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Re: PESO: Maui Sunset

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On February 1, 2014 10:38:06 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
wrote:
Thanks, Paul.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 A rich scene, nicely composed.

 Paul via phone

 On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Bob and Bruce.

 Dan
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 On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Bob Sullivan
rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan,
 That's marvelous!  Wonderfully colored and artistic.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 The end of another perfect day in paradise:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667257

 Comments are invited.

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Sunsets got me into photography, Dan, and I'm a sucker for purples in the mix. 
Here you just turned the beautiful up to 11 and made me feel terrible in grey 
New England, so it must be a nice photo. 

I don't agree that it's too punchy; at least on my phone it just looks 
wonderful. 
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Re: OT Outstanding wildlife/nature photography

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On January 30, 2014 7:53:40 PM EST, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
This Finnish photographer's stuff is really remarkable ...

http://www.kafa.fi/pages/gallery1.php
http://www.kafa.fi/pages/the-house-in-the-woods.php


Highly subdued images, pretty much the opposite of most wildlife photography. I 
love it. 
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Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On January 31, 2014 7:45:17 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com 
wrote:
On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:31 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 .. I am still sort of the opinion that *my* perfect camera hasn't 
been made yet. ..

It's probably a fact that no camera can ever truly be perfect. 
I've come across a few that were quite nice, however.

G


I've thought about that for the last 5 years or so. Shame there are no custom 
camera builders, like there are tailors, architects or carpinters; at this 
point I get so worked up by imperfect cameras that I'd be willing to pay a 
decent chunk of money for one, even if it's APS-C. 

If camera makers opened up their firmware, then I'd probably be able to end up 
with a 98% perfect camera for no extra money, but nobody listens to Thom Hogan, 
let alone to me :-/
Cheers,


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Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On February 1, 2014 9:37:58 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com 
wrote:
On Feb 1, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 On 1/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 If there's one beef I have with all the Fuji cameras of recent years
 (aside from the weird processing required for the X sensors), and
with
 the Sony A7, it's the placement of the EV Compensation dial. The
right-
 rear corner is just wrong--I have to move my whole right hand to
adjust
 EV compensation, and that's something I do all the time since I use
 aperture priority AE most of the time. The Sony allows me to re-map
this
 control to the front dial, making it fall to hand easily like it is
on
 the Olympus E-M1 and other cameras I own. I don't know whether that
 solution is possible on the Fuji. 
 
 Interesting!
 
 I find moving the EV dial very easy with just my right thumb, without
 moving my right hand at all.
 
 Cat  skin ;-)

Different size/shape hands, we probably hold the camera somewhat
differently too. I can't seem to bend my thumb and move it precisely on
a wheel in that location. I always end up taking the camera from my eye
and looking at the dial to see what I'm doing, which gets in the way of
my shooting workflow. 

Don't leave that cat skin laying about. I hear it broils up nicely and
goes well with hat. ];-)

(Ann will shoot me next time I see her… )

G


I don't have an issue with the placement of the EV Comp dial, but I do have an 
issue with how tight it is on the new X cameras; I can barely move it with my 
thumb while holding the camera steady to my eye, and when I do, I'm never sure 
how much I moved it because I generally overshoot. And no, Godfrey, you can't 
reassign this to another dial. 

Related to this issue is the shutter speed dial, which is even tighter, making 
it impossible for me to shoot in Tv mode (unless I'm happy picking a single 
speed and not changing it dynamically in real time as I shoot). 
Cheers,


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OT - World's best father

2014-02-02 Thread Igor Roshchin


Interesting set of photos:
http://chicquero.com/2012/09/24/worlds-best-father/

I like the creativity and the sense of humor...

I think at least somebody else here on the list will appreciate this
set. :-)

Igor


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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Mark C
That would certainly bee another significant limitation to PSE. I am 
using Windows PC's and have never used any menus in PS for enabling the 
second montior - the second monitor is just there and I drag the pallets 
that I want to use to it and leave the primary display for just the core 
PS program, sidebar and image. I still use Thumbs plus to manage my 
image libraries and put that and Bridge (if needed) on the right monitor 
as well.  It's just a  drag there once and it will be there till moved 
process.


On 2/2/2014 2:27 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

The app window contains all the sub windows. I was unable to drag
anything outside of it. Maybe I missed something ... ?

In full Photoshop there are menus for enabling the second monitor and
how it will display on it. No such menus in PSE.

Lightroom has explicit 2nd monitor support too.





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Re: GESO 2014 - 031-035 - GDG

2014-02-02 Thread Mark C

That works very well - the images flow very naturally...

On 1/29/2014 3:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I thought this set looked nice as a quadtych ...

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12210617516/

(Individuals ...
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12210618146/
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12210212983/
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12210213063/
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12210212793/ )

Taken on the Isle of Man in 2005.

Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated.

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Re: OT - World's best father

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On February 2, 2014 5:07:53 PM EST, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


Interesting set of photos:
http://chicquero.com/2012/09/24/worlds-best-father/

I like the creativity and the sense of humor...

I think at least somebody else here on the list will appreciate this
set. :-)

Igor


Igor, 

I saw these some time ago and sent the link to all my photographer/dad friends. 
I wonder if I can pull some of these off myself? Probably not cos I don't have 
that type of PS skills, or a CC subscription. Or imagination. 
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Re: OT - World's best father

2014-02-02 Thread John

On 2/2/2014 5:07 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



Interesting set of photos:
http://chicquero.com/2012/09/24/worlds-best-father/

I like the creativity and the sense of humor...

I think at least somebody else here on the list will appreciate this
set. :-)

Igor




I think this guy did it first:

http://wackymania.com/creative-dad-takes-crazy-photos-of-daughters/

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Re: OT - World's best father

2014-02-02 Thread Igor Roshchin

Sun Feb 2 18:58:02 EST 2014
Miserere wrote:

 On February 2, 2014 5:07:53 PM EST, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org
 wrote:
 
 
 Interesting set of photos:
 http://chicquero.com/2012/09/24/worlds-best-father/
 
 I like the creativity and the sense of humor...
 
 I think at least somebody else here on the list will appreciate this
 set. :-)
 
 Igor
 
 
 Igor, 
 
 I saw these some time ago and sent the link to all my photographer/dad
 friends. I wonder if I can pull some of these off myself? Probably not
 cos I don't have that type of PS skills, or a CC subscription. Or
 imagination. 
 Cheers,
 
 
   .M.

Heh... I even had Attn: Miserere in the subject originally, but then
decided to remove it. ;-)

I don't have that artful imagination/skills either.

Igor



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Re: PESO: Maui Sunset

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Miserere.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 On February 1, 2014 10:38:06 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola 
 danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, Paul.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 A rich scene, nicely composed.

 Paul via phone

 On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Bob and Bruce.

 Dan
 Dan Matyola
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 On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Bob Sullivan
rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan,
 That's marvelous!  Wonderfully colored and artistic.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
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 The end of another perfect day in paradise:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667257

 Comments are invited.

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 Sunsets got me into photography, Dan, and I'm a sucker for purples in the 
 mix. Here you just turned the beautiful up to 11 and made me feel terrible in 
 grey New England, so it must be a nice photo.

 I don't agree that it's too punchy; at least on my phone it just looks 
 wonderful.
 Cheers,


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Re: OT - aviation photog

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It insists that I subscribe.

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On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 This is on DPReview at the moment, very nicely put together video:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTpz8m8reCg#t=138

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PESO: Shark

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667353size=lg
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Re: PESO: Sticky Snow

2014-02-02 Thread Stanley Halpin
One hundred miles north and our snow total is about 30-50% what you have. Go 
figure. We have also had fewer incidents of “mixed” weather with icing.
Hang in there.

stan

On Feb 2, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 The news is reporting the all time monthly snow record for SE Michigan was 
 broken last month - something a little shy of 40 inches for the month. The 
 season total is around 55 inches so far. The average for a winter season in 
 Detroit is 42 inches
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: PESO: Sticky Snow
 
 We got another 8 inches of wet snow that hangs nicely on the branches. No 
 good light to go with it, but that’s a rare combination in winter.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17671423
 
 More than two feet on the ground here now. More in drifts. Ready for spring.
 


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PESO - Dinan School Outing

2014-02-02 Thread Rick Womer
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667082

or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17667082-lg.jpg

 
(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments?

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Re: Question: Skiing and Photography

2014-02-02 Thread Rick Womer
Christine,

Once upon a time (in the film era) I spent a week every winter for about 18 
years doing lots of ski shooting--lessons, open skiing, races.

I used a Super Program at first, then a PZ-1 and PZ-1p.

Observations, in no particular order:
- Jeez, it is COLD when you're standing at the side of a slope (e.g. shooting 
races), not skiing.
- Practice handling your camera with gloves before you're out on the slopes.  
Things feel different.
- I took a 70-210 or 80-320 in a fanny pack to minimize bulk and maximize 
accessibility.  
- Anything throws one's balance off, though, so one must ski carefully when 
carrying the camera stuff.  Falling on a camera hurts both the camera and 
oneself.
- One's natural tendency is to make the ground level in the frame, which makes 
it appear as though the slope isn't very steep (even when it is).  So finding a 
vertical reference and paying attention to it will produce more dramatic shots.
- Snow is remarkably bright; so shooting with wide latitiude (print film then, 
low ISO now) is good for bringing out details in the subjects later.

Have fun!

Rick

On Feb 1, 2014, at 5:00 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 That's an excellent suggestion, Ken.  Friends I'm with could body-mount it 
 too for some fun video and narrative. Thanks!  Cheers, Christine 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 1, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 Christine, you might give some thought to POV video. GoPros are very easy to 
 use, have many different mounts (chest, head and helmet) and produce very 
 good video.
 
 I used mine during my sled dog race and the video came out better than any 
 stills I could have taken with out stopping.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Subject: Re: Question: Skiing and Photography
 
 
 On 1 Feb 2014, at 16:56, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone:
 
 If you were to do a photo shoot of a ski outting, what might be your kit, 
 preparation and strategy, and safety issues?  Obviously, a photographer 
 wouldn’t want to just wait at the bottom of the hill for shots of folks 
 coming down the hill.  How would you keep your kit safe when maneuvering 
 along the hill?
 
 Any tips and strategies from any PDML Skier-Photogs?
 
 I’m not planning a ski shoot this season, but maybe next season.
 
 I went skiing a few years ago with one of my brothers and his family, who 
 are very good skiers. It's the only time I've skiied. It was the film era 
 and I was using a Contax with Zeiss lenses. When I was skiing I left them 
 at my brother's house - I had no wish to have that stuff on me while 
 skiing, it was likely to be dangerous. On some days I didn't ski, and took 
 the camera kit in a Domke F-2, went up the ski lift with them and found 
 some spots where I could get different views of them on the way down, them 
 some shots of one of my nephews boarding.
 
 I took a full range of lenses, from a 300mm to a 21mm. I took incident 
 light readings with my hand shading the underside of the meter so that the 
 snow would come out right.
 
 Here's a page I've just put up. Low-res scans to CD.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Skiing/
 
 The best shot is the one of my nephew jumping off a low bank - that's with 
 a 21mm lens (35mm camera). Most of the shots are very samey, although I 
 expect someone with more experience would much better.
 
 B
 
 
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Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 February 2014 08:18, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:

 If camera makers opened up their firmware, then I'd probably be able to end 
 up with a 98% perfect camera for no extra money, but nobody listens to Thom 
 Hogan, let alone to me :-/
 Cheers,

Amen, the Sony RX100.. could benefit greatly by having photographers
input to the design of the UI :(

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Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 2, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've thought about that for the last 5 years or so. Shame there are no custom 
 camera builders, like there are tailors, architects or carpinters; at this 
 point I get so worked up by imperfect cameras that I'd be willing to pay a 
 decent chunk of money for one, even if it's APS-C. 
 
 If camera makers opened up their firmware, then I'd probably be able to end 
 up with a 98% perfect camera for no extra money, but nobody listens to Thom 
 Hogan, let alone to me :-/

For me, Olympus got it so nearly, perfectly right with the E-1 and then the 
E-M1 bodies. Button and dial placement on both is outstanding, shape and grip 
size just naturally falls to hand with the dials easily accessible. And the 
E-M1 is so configurable, with 9 or 10 of the buttons, levers, and dials 
customizable, it's pretty much able to be configured for nearly anyone's 
preferences. 

By comparison, the Sony A7 is clunky, a bit rough around the edges. What saves 
it is the excellent sensor, and the fact that I have a kit of superb lenses 
looking for a body to work with. :-)

G
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Re: PESO: Shark

2014-02-02 Thread Jack Davis


Very nicely done, Dan! Like the pastel colors and composition.

Jack





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Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2014 4:52 PM
Subject: PESO: Shark


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667353size=lg
Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO: Shark

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Jack.

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On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Very nicely done, Dan! Like the pastel colors and composition.

 Jack




 
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 Subject: PESO: Shark


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PESO 2014 - 037 - GDG

2014-02-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Still working photos from a week ago, but I'm feeling better finally. 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12282239614/

There was something pure and attractive about the way this bicycle looked. Very 
appealing to my eye.

Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated. 

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Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Boris Liberman

On 2/2/2014 7:56 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

What is a malware vector? I've never had a problem with Acrobat. Been using 
it forever, probably more than twenty years.

Paul via phone


http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Malware_propagation_vector

Paul, let me suggest to you that by being very widely spread 
application, Adobe Reader attracts great deal of attention of malware 
producers. Further, it stands to reason that the bugs or exploits that 
allow malware to sneak in, so to say, are more likely to have to do with 
more advanced features of the software (*).


Thus, by installing a 3rd party PDF reader (less spread, less fancy) you 
increase your potential security.


Of course, it is up to you to decide how to proceed. I just don't like 
the notion of having a huge(**) program installed on my computer doing 
relatively simple thing - showing me a PDF document (I don't recall 
having to sign a PDF document or doing anything fancier than marking the 
lines in my credit card statement).


Boris

(*) That is, assuming that Adobe cares about its users security and 
hence applies necessary technological means to secure their software.


(**) Very basic PDF viewer, such as SumatraPDF is order of 5 MB... I 
would wanna know how big is modern Adobe Acrobat Reader...





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Re: PESO - Dinan School Outing

2014-02-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
It's been good to see your pictures of Dinan Rick. Karin and I had a
memorable stay there about 20 years ago. My shots are all on film so
no immediate ones to post.

Thanks, Chris

On 3 February 2014 02:28, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667082

 or

 http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17667082-lg.jpg


 (K-5, DA 16-45)

 Comments?

 Rick


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Re: PESO: Maui Sunset

2014-02-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
Nice one Dan. It's always good to see some interesting foreground in a
sunset picture and the silhouettes of the palms do the job admirably.

Chris

On 1 February 2014 22:59, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 The end of another perfect day in paradise:
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