Re: Not very tall ships
That’s a very pretty picture, Bob! Like it very much! Cheers, Christine On Sep 8, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Greenwich has been horribly busy over the last few days, partly as a result of Mark! and Lisa! visiting, partly as a result of the Tall Ships Festival. The tall ships, what I saw of them, were rather disappointing, so mostly I got away from Greenwich to avoid the non-Mark! crowds. I did take a handful of pictures, but I forgot that my camera was on manual and I didn't set the exposure. I managed to rescue this one, for what it's worth, with Lightroom's high contrast blue filter. http://www.web-options.com/TallShips.jpg B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Back in the USA after the London PDML meet
mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Did you get to the museum? Yes! The National Motorcycle Museum near Birmingham is amazing! I spent hours there, took many photos and finally left when I reached sensory overload. Really superb place. I'll get up a gallery of photos before long... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Mimesis
Images #1-6 from my Mimesis project, a continuing series. NSFW, but just artistic nudity. The model is the amazing Fredau. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/97065397892/mimesis-1-6-with-fredau While it's digital composited art, I mostly stuck to techniques that are plausible with double exposures. All components shot by me on the K-3 with a mix of lenses: DA 35/2.8 Macro Ltd, DA* 16-50/2.8 SDM, DA* 50-135/2.8 SDM. Comments welcome. Enjoy! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x 2 - Cyber Lolita
All in fun, Ann. :) On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: She looks like a poke-mon creature... ann On 8/24/2014 11:39, Bruce Walker wrote: Images from a collaborative project with local Queen Street designer Emily Yoshizawa. She designs clothing and accessories with a Japanese and futuristic/steampunk bent. She usually photographs and retouches her own work, but decided to be the model this time, and asked for my assistance. http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/95469662797 http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/95470306062 K-3, DA* 55/1.4 (1st), DA 35/2.8 Macro (2nd), f:10, 1/125th, ISO 200 Lighting: four bare flashes at staggered heights bounced into a white v-flat directly behind camera. Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - the Maier copyright mess gets more tangled
Bruce, regarding your brother-in-law's situation, I have taken the liberty of submitting a question: http://ask.metafilter.com/268234/Inheritance-Tax-on-estimated-value-of-photo-negatives-left-behind-WUTT It will be interesting to see if any expert answers are submitted. If nothing else, one would think that there would be some sort of system in place for such works to be donated to a library or alma mater so that they could at least not be lost to history. Destroying them seems to be a bit of a scorched earth policy. I have to believe that there are Estate Planners that could suggest something more reasonable. Regarding the lawyer inserting himself, I agree with what others have expressed. The legal system will welcome, with open arms, the opportunity to extract any wealth from the situation that they can. I think an argument could be made that Vivian Maier's work had essentially NO economic value until that value was created by the work of Mr. Maloof (and others) in publicizing her work. The lawyer in involved himself in tracking down the alleged closer relative is no different than any other ambulance chaser lawyer, IMHO. I think we need to be careful before we deify Mr. Maloof, however. He is clearly a shrewd operator, given the way he has generated and leveraged media attention (etc.) into a book, a movie, and print sales, exhibits, etc. I was not aware, for example, that Vivian Maier was still alive (but hospitalized, apparently) when her storage locker stuff was sold. This page is interesting (and provides a lot of other links related to Vivian Maier and her work) http://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/~plbannos/VivianMaier.html Never having gotten to see the Finding Vivian Maier movie, I just purchased the DVD. I was also not aware of the BBC program The Vivian Maier Mystery. That is an hour long program which is available to watch on Amazon video (and maybe NetFlix?) Here is the IMDB page for it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3252208/ FINALLY, a while back I referred to an article by Kevin Coffee on the ethics for the journal Museum Management and Curatorship regarding work like Vivian Maier's. That article, entitled Misplaced: ethics and the photographs of Vivian Maier can be found here: The file 'VivianMaier_K_Coffee.pdf' (215 KB) is available for download at http://dropbox.unl.edu/uploads/20140924/41a4684ff30b1ef8/VivianMaier_K_Coffee.pdf for the next 14 days. It will be removed after Wednesday, September 24, 2014. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: My brother-in-law, a retired photojournalist (Newsweek, Time), has left specific instructions to destroy his negatives after his death so his family won't be hit by US inheritance taxes on the estimated market value of the collection. He sells through Getty and Polaris so this is a valid financial threat. Kinda sad, I think. He did a close up and personal pictorial project with a young Bob Dylan and Rotolo, his then girlfriend, living in New York, and these rare shots would be destroyed, along with thousands of others. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Indeed. It has taught me ... I now have explicit instructions in my will as to what will happen with my photographs after I leave this mortal coil. Not that I expect them to be valuable to anyone besides me, but I will not allow vulpine lawyers to profit from my works. That's much worse than allowing treasure finders like Maloof and the other owners to profit from their discoveries. I'd much rather see the photos burned. The Virginia lawyer at the bottom of this latest turn of affairs is probably another redneck Fundamentalist Republican ... The worst kind of scum skimmer. Godfrey On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I'm not even reading all of that stuf and it makes me sad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Foggy Morning
Very nice, especially the first one! On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:20 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: We had some fog this morning so I took the camera for a walk. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/815/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/816/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Muscle memory.
Watch this 1-minute clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP0g9d3lO4Q It is called Force of Habit. Cheers, Igor Bill Sun, 07 Sep 2014 21:04:11 -0700 wrote: On 07/09/2014 9:37 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Having used the K20D for four+ years I still find myself pressing the +/- button when I want to press the green button and vice versa. How long dose it take to get used to the button layout... You never do. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - the Maier copyright mess gets more tangled
Thanks, Darren. You have raised enough doubts in my mind that I'm now going to quiz my relative about it. Gently. :) On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, regarding your brother-in-law's situation, I have taken the liberty of submitting a question: http://ask.metafilter.com/268234/Inheritance-Tax-on-estimated-value-of-photo-negatives-left-behind-WUTT It will be interesting to see if any expert answers are submitted. If nothing else, one would think that there would be some sort of system in place for such works to be donated to a library or alma mater so that they could at least not be lost to history. Destroying them seems to be a bit of a scorched earth policy. I have to believe that there are Estate Planners that could suggest something more reasonable. Regarding the lawyer inserting himself, I agree with what others have expressed. The legal system will welcome, with open arms, the opportunity to extract any wealth from the situation that they can. I think an argument could be made that Vivian Maier's work had essentially NO economic value until that value was created by the work of Mr. Maloof (and others) in publicizing her work. The lawyer in involved himself in tracking down the alleged closer relative is no different than any other ambulance chaser lawyer, IMHO. I think we need to be careful before we deify Mr. Maloof, however. He is clearly a shrewd operator, given the way he has generated and leveraged media attention (etc.) into a book, a movie, and print sales, exhibits, etc. I was not aware, for example, that Vivian Maier was still alive (but hospitalized, apparently) when her storage locker stuff was sold. This page is interesting (and provides a lot of other links related to Vivian Maier and her work) http://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/~plbannos/VivianMaier.html Never having gotten to see the Finding Vivian Maier movie, I just purchased the DVD. I was also not aware of the BBC program The Vivian Maier Mystery. That is an hour long program which is available to watch on Amazon video (and maybe NetFlix?) Here is the IMDB page for it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3252208/ FINALLY, a while back I referred to an article by Kevin Coffee on the ethics for the journal Museum Management and Curatorship regarding work like Vivian Maier's. That article, entitled Misplaced: ethics and the photographs of Vivian Maier can be found here: The file 'VivianMaier_K_Coffee.pdf' (215 KB) is available for download at http://dropbox.unl.edu/uploads/20140924/41a4684ff30b1ef8/VivianMaier_K_Coffee.pdf for the next 14 days. It will be removed after Wednesday, September 24, 2014. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: My brother-in-law, a retired photojournalist (Newsweek, Time), has left specific instructions to destroy his negatives after his death so his family won't be hit by US inheritance taxes on the estimated market value of the collection. He sells through Getty and Polaris so this is a valid financial threat. Kinda sad, I think. He did a close up and personal pictorial project with a young Bob Dylan and Rotolo, his then girlfriend, living in New York, and these rare shots would be destroyed, along with thousands of others. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Indeed. It has taught me ... I now have explicit instructions in my will as to what will happen with my photographs after I leave this mortal coil. Not that I expect them to be valuable to anyone besides me, but I will not allow vulpine lawyers to profit from my works. That's much worse than allowing treasure finders like Maloof and the other owners to profit from their discoveries. I'd much rather see the photos burned. The Virginia lawyer at the bottom of this latest turn of affairs is probably another redneck Fundamentalist Republican ... The worst kind of scum skimmer. Godfrey On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I'm not even reading all of that stuf and it makes me sad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please
I don't understand
When we were in Philly I saw far more mirrorless than DSLRs in use. After getting home I was chatting with a local store owner who found that odd since mirrorless sales are only a fraction of the market. Maybe they were all in one place at one time? Then last weekend we were in Wisconsin and Illinois. (Fresh curds ... yum.) Had a good conversation with a pro who shoots for stock. He uses (another brand) DSLR for action and a Sony mirrorless for general use. He likes the size/weight for carrying around, and the good lenses don't hurt. So I wonder ... is it just the form/shape that chases people away from these cameras? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I don't understand
I had a brief fling with an Olympus a couple of years ago. It was fine as a point-and-shoot, at least as good as my iPhone. The kit zoom lens was decent. What I wanted, though, was to use it with viewfinder and to use it shooting in manual mode with other-brand lenses like Pentax and Leica (via adapter of course). The buttons/menus etc were not designed with manual shooting in mind. At least I could never figure them out. The viewfinder was too much of a downgrade from a good optical viewfinder. I sold it, use my iPhone or WG-3 as my point-and-shoot. I don’t know that there is anything about mirrorless chasing me away (except maybe the small sensor), but I haven’t found much to attract me to them either. stan On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: When we were in Philly I saw far more mirrorless than DSLRs in use. After getting home I was chatting with a local store owner who found that odd since mirrorless sales are only a fraction of the market. Maybe they were all in one place at one time? Then last weekend we were in Wisconsin and Illinois. (Fresh curds ... yum.) Had a good conversation with a pro who shoots for stock. He uses (another brand) DSLR for action and a Sony mirrorless for general use. He likes the size/weight for carrying around, and the good lenses don't hurt. So I wonder ... is it just the form/shape that chases people away from these cameras? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I don't understand
As you're probably aware, I've been working with the 'mirrorless' cameras since they first appeared on the market in late 2008. To write about all the advantages of going with these cameras over what I used to do with DSLR kits would take more time than I have available, but they are very compelling for my photography. An Olympus Pen digital is not a viable replacement for a quality DSLR (maybe for a consumer DSLR). An Olympus OM-D series camera (certainly the E-M1, maybe the E-M5 as well) or a Panasonic GH3 or GH4 definitely are. These cameras work very well although best with the lenses designed for them. My E-M1 is a far better camera than any of my Pentax DSLRs (I stopped shooting with Pentax after the K10D) with respect to haptics, features, and viewfinder ... And image qualities. IMO, although I've done it for years, you lose a lot with the smaller format when you adapt older SLR lenses simply because you're paying the weight/size penalty on the lenses which were designed for a larger format SLR, on which they image better. The Sony A7, on the other hand, gives you a Pentax MX sized body that works very nicely with nearly any SLR lenses via mount adapters. It has a very good viewfinder (nearly as good as the Olympus E-M1) and good controls/features. Where it's lacking compared to the mid- to upper-grade SLRs is in responsiveness (unlike the E-M1) and an overall somewhat clunky feel. It also works well with a carefully selected range of smaller, RF camera lenses which nets a much smaller, lighter overall kit to carry compared to nearly any DSLR system. I don't know that anything is 'chasing me away' from DSLRs so much as these new cameras are drawing me to them. I will nearly always pick the smaller, lighter camera over the larger, heavier one, and the added versatility to use any lens I want from my Nikkor, Leica R, Leica M, and other makes floating about in the closet is a huge plus with the A7. The camera is a chameleon: Fit a Nikkor lens and the imaging looks just like my Nikon F. Fit a Leica R lens and the imaging looks just like with my Leica R8. Fit the right Leica M lens, and the imaging looks just like with my Leica M4-2. And the overall body package is in that sweet spot, for me, of the Pentax MX/Nikon FM2 that I always preferred. I pick the E-M1 if I want pro-DSLR grade responsiveness and access to the superb Olympus HG and SHG lenses. Godfrey On Sep 10, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I had a brief fling with an Olympus a couple of years ago. It was fine as a point-and-shoot, at least as good as my iPhone. The kit zoom lens was decent. What I wanted, though, was to use it with viewfinder and to use it shooting in manual mode with other-brand lenses like Pentax and Leica (via adapter of course). The buttons/menus etc were not designed with manual shooting in mind. At least I could never figure them out. The viewfinder was too much of a downgrade from a good optical viewfinder. I sold it, use my iPhone or WG-3 as my point-and-shoot. I don’t know that there is anything about mirrorless chasing me away (except maybe the small sensor), but I haven’t found much to attract me to them either stan On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: When we were in Philly I saw far more mirrorless than DSLRs in use. After getting home I was chatting with a local store owner who found that odd since mirrorless sales are only a fraction of the market. Maybe they were all in one place at one time? Then last weekend we were in Wisconsin and Illinois. (Fresh curds ... yum.) Had a good conversation with a pro who shoots for stock. He uses (another brand) DSLR for action and a Sony mirrorless for general use. He likes the size/weight for carrying around, and the good lenses don't hurt. So I wonder ... is it just the form/shape that chases people away from these cameras? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - the Maier copyright mess gets more tangled
Of course I don’t know what your brother-in-law’s financial status might be, but if he’s leaving less than $800,000 there is no inheritance tax. I managed my mother’s estate when she passed, and estimating the value of things like photographs and negatives was left to my discretion. Unless there’s an obvious attempt to drive the total below that 800K figure, I doubt that there’s no need to fear the IRS. On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: My brother-in-law, a retired photojournalist (Newsweek, Time), has left specific instructions to destroy his negatives after his death so his family won't be hit by US inheritance taxes on the estimated market value of the collection. He sells through Getty and Polaris so this is a valid financial threat. Kinda sad, I think. He did a close up and personal pictorial project with a young Bob Dylan and Rotolo, his then girlfriend, living in New York, and these rare shots would be destroyed, along with thousands of others. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Indeed. It has taught me ... I now have explicit instructions in my will as to what will happen with my photographs after I leave this mortal coil. Not that I expect them to be valuable to anyone besides me, but I will not allow vulpine lawyers to profit from my works. That's much worse than allowing treasure finders like Maloof and the other owners to profit from their discoveries. I'd much rather see the photos burned. The Virginia lawyer at the bottom of this latest turn of affairs is probably another redneck Fundamentalist Republican ... The worst kind of scum skimmer. Godfrey On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I'm not even reading all of that stuf and it makes me sad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I don't understand
On 10/09/2014 10:50 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: When we were in Philly I saw far more mirrorless than DSLRs in use. After getting home I was chatting with a local store owner who found that odd since mirrorless sales are only a fraction of the market. Maybe they were all in one place at one time? Then last weekend we were in Wisconsin and Illinois. (Fresh curds ... yum.) Had a good conversation with a pro who shoots for stock. He uses (another brand) DSLR for action and a Sony mirrorless for general use. He likes the size/weight for carrying around, and the good lenses don't hurt. So I wonder ... is it just the form/shape that chases people away from these cameras? Pick up a Fuji X-T1 and use it for a couple of hours, and then try to go back to any full sized DSLR. Even the Pentaxes, which are relatively small by the standards of today feel oversized, overweight and kludgy by comparison. The electronic viewfinders are not quite there yet, but I'm finding the Fuji has become my go to camera for almost everything in spite of that. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: this one's for Bill
When you get bored with your helicoptercam: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29140059 I think a moose would be appropriate. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - the Maier copyright mess gets more tangled
…I doubt that there’s any need to fear the IRS…is what I meant to say. On Sep 10, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Of course I don’t know what your brother-in-law’s financial status might be, but if he’s leaving less than $800,000 there is no inheritance tax. I managed my mother’s estate when she passed, and estimating the value of things like photographs and negatives was left to my discretion. Unless there’s an obvious attempt to drive the total below that 800K figure, I doubt that there’s no need to fear the IRS. On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: My brother-in-law, a retired photojournalist (Newsweek, Time), has left specific instructions to destroy his negatives after his death so his family won't be hit by US inheritance taxes on the estimated market value of the collection. He sells through Getty and Polaris so this is a valid financial threat. Kinda sad, I think. He did a close up and personal pictorial project with a young Bob Dylan and Rotolo, his then girlfriend, living in New York, and these rare shots would be destroyed, along with thousands of others. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Indeed. It has taught me ... I now have explicit instructions in my will as to what will happen with my photographs after I leave this mortal coil. Not that I expect them to be valuable to anyone besides me, but I will not allow vulpine lawyers to profit from my works. That's much worse than allowing treasure finders like Maloof and the other owners to profit from their discoveries. I'd much rather see the photos burned. The Virginia lawyer at the bottom of this latest turn of affairs is probably another redneck Fundamentalist Republican ... The worst kind of scum skimmer. Godfrey On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I'm not even reading all of that stuf and it makes me sad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: this one's for Bill
At last, a replacement for the Canada goose! On Sep 10, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: When you get bored with your helicoptercam: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29140059 I think a moose would be appropriate. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - the Maier copyright mess gets more tangled
I meant to say, “I doubt there’s any need to fear the IRS,” burt my brain got in the way of my fingers. On Sep 10, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Of course I don’t know what your brother-in-law’s financial status might be, but if he’s leaving less than $800,000 there is no inheritance tax. I managed my mother’s estate when she passed, and estimating the value of things like photographs and negatives was left to my discretion. Unless there’s an obvious attempt to drive the total below that 800K figure, I doubt that there’s no need to fear the IRS. On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: My brother-in-law, a retired photojournalist (Newsweek, Time), has left specific instructions to destroy his negatives after his death so his family won't be hit by US inheritance taxes on the estimated market value of the collection. He sells through Getty and Polaris so this is a valid financial threat. Kinda sad, I think. He did a close up and personal pictorial project with a young Bob Dylan and Rotolo, his then girlfriend, living in New York, and these rare shots would be destroyed, along with thousands of others. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Indeed. It has taught me ... I now have explicit instructions in my will as to what will happen with my photographs after I leave this mortal coil. Not that I expect them to be valuable to anyone besides me, but I will not allow vulpine lawyers to profit from my works. That's much worse than allowing treasure finders like Maloof and the other owners to profit from their discoveries. I'd much rather see the photos burned. The Virginia lawyer at the bottom of this latest turn of affairs is probably another redneck Fundamentalist Republican ... The worst kind of scum skimmer. Godfrey On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I'm not even reading all of that stuf and it makes me sad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - the Maier copyright mess gets more tangled
On 9/9/2014 7:35 PM, Bill wrote: On 09/09/2014 9:22 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Wouldn't you know a lawyer would take it upon himself to find an heir to a fortune that no one knew existed and not exist if not for the hard work of a third party. Why he had to find a person who had no idea that they were even related to the original artist, (and who the Artist probably didn't know either), who's first, and probably last reaction to the trove of negatives would have been to dispose of the junk. All for justice, no thought of the possible huge payday involved. There are times that Justice is called for and then there are times that Lawyers are fully deserving of the disgust that one feels turning over a rock one finds something slimy and a bit repulsive. I used to be angry at lawyers, but then I realized that politicians are the enablers. One presumes that Mr. Maloof owns the cellulose and silver that the images reside in, since it sounds like he bought that hard property fair and square. I expect he could tell the copyright owners to go pound sand if they want his plastic and silver, even if he has to give over all money he made from the work. It sounds to me like as if Ms. Maier abandoned her property, and by extension, her property rights. One wonders what the storage contract looked like. The situation is one where the law is an ass. bill Mr. Maloof hired a company of genealogists to track down Ms. Maier's closest living relative heir. That relative turned out to be a first cousin living in Europe. Mr. Maloof purchased the copyrights to Ms. Maier's images from that heir. Now this lawyer sticks his oar in and says he has tracked down another putative first cousin living in Europe is suing Maloof on that cousin's behalf. Supposedly the new first cousin is a closer relative to Maier than the old first cousin Maloof's search firm found. I don't understand how that works, but clearly if the new first cousin has any claim at all it's against the original first cousin. Can you say CONTINGENCY FEE boys girls? See also: SCUMBAG BOTTOM FEEDER. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - the Maier copyright mess gets more tangled
Or he could gift the negatives in trust to his family while he's still alive avoid the estate taxes. On 9/9/2014 9:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: My brother-in-law, a retired photojournalist (Newsweek, Time), has left specific instructions to destroy his negatives after his death so his family won't be hit by US inheritance taxes on the estimated market value of the collection. He sells through Getty and Polaris so this is a valid financial threat. Kinda sad, I think. He did a close up and personal pictorial project with a young Bob Dylan and Rotolo, his then girlfriend, living in New York, and these rare shots would be destroyed, along with thousands of others. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Indeed. It has taught me ... I now have explicit instructions in my will as to what will happen with my photographs after I leave this mortal coil. Not that I expect them to be valuable to anyone besides me, but I will not allow vulpine lawyers to profit from my works. That's much worse than allowing treasure finders like Maloof and the other owners to profit from their discoveries. I'd much rather see the photos burned. The Virginia lawyer at the bottom of this latest turn of affairs is probably another redneck Fundamentalist Republican ... The worst kind of scum skimmer. Godfrey On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I'm not even reading all of that stuf and it makes me sad -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ACDSEE for Pentax 3.0 - problems
I've been using Irfanview for years, but I have never been able to get the RAW files module to work properly. I downloaded the FastStone viewer as well and I am impressed. No more having to go into the other room to the computer I keep Photoshop on in order to look at .PEF .DNG files. On 9/9/2014 3:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I downloaded MArk's recommendation and it is fine for what I want. I've already used it. I do all my editing in Elements so don't need anything more... Thanks to all for suggestions! ann On 9/9/2014 13:10, P.J. Alling wrote: Irfanview rotates images automatically for any file that contains that information, K20D and K-5II files show the proper orientation, *ist-D and Ds files do not. If you click on the thumbnail when using the thumbnail viewer, it will automatically open the image in the main Irfanview window, left and right arrow keys let you browse through the folder in the main viewer. You can do some editing in the viewer. I believe that Doug Brewer even used to use it for raw processing, it doesn't offer a lot of control but it can be used for that. I also have a utility integrated with my desktop that allows PEF and DNG files to be directly viewed in folders, I can't remember where I got it, the link seems to have disappeared, third party since Pentax and Microsoft don't support XP with the latest products. I don't know about the other two programs but one nice thing about Irfanview is that you can customize the size of the thumbnails in the thumbnail viewer. On 9/9/2014 11:05 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Ok Guys - I got three candidates here.. The key thing for me is... see list of folders by their folder names open a folder - view thumbnails view the first one large, then hit the right arrow on my keyboard to click through them one at a time with -keyboard- arrow - like a slide show but moving to next image on my command, not timed. I presume all three suggested run on XP? I don't need it to do anything else, except possibly rotate the view. It would be especially useful if I can view canon raw files as well as DNGS, PEFS if possible.. but if it only does jpgs that is ok. I'm pretty sure FastStone Image Viewer meets all your requirements. I'm also pretty sure InfanView doesn't. I'm not certain how xnview is with raw files. FastStone is what Doug and I use at Grandfather Mountain for the presentations. It's free but very good. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: this one's for Bill
Does anyone else think this is, well, kinda twisted? On 9/10/2014 2:21 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: When you get bored with your helicoptercam: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29140059 I think a moose would be appropriate. B -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - the Maier copyright mess gets more tangled
The IRS is made up of people who don't even know the laws they are supposed to enforce, no one does, actually, as the US tax code is so convoluted. There is always reason to fear the IRS. On 9/10/2014 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: …I doubt that there’s any need to fear the IRS…is what I meant to say. On Sep 10, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Of course I don’t know what your brother-in-law’s financial status might be, but if he’s leaving less than $800,000 there is no inheritance tax. I managed my mother’s estate when she passed, and estimating the value of things like photographs and negatives was left to my discretion. Unless there’s an obvious attempt to drive the total below that 800K figure, I doubt that there’s no need to fear the IRS. On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: My brother-in-law, a retired photojournalist (Newsweek, Time), has left specific instructions to destroy his negatives after his death so his family won't be hit by US inheritance taxes on the estimated market value of the collection. He sells through Getty and Polaris so this is a valid financial threat. Kinda sad, I think. He did a close up and personal pictorial project with a young Bob Dylan and Rotolo, his then girlfriend, living in New York, and these rare shots would be destroyed, along with thousands of others. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Indeed. It has taught me ... I now have explicit instructions in my will as to what will happen with my photographs after I leave this mortal coil. Not that I expect them to be valuable to anyone besides me, but I will not allow vulpine lawyers to profit from my works. That's much worse than allowing treasure finders like Maloof and the other owners to profit from their discoveries. I'd much rather see the photos burned. The Virginia lawyer at the bottom of this latest turn of affairs is probably another redneck Fundamentalist Republican ... The worst kind of scum skimmer. Godfrey On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I'm not even reading all of that stuf and it makes me sad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Muscle memory.
That was funny! On 9/10/2014 12:37 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Watch this 1-minute clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP0g9d3lO4Q It is called Force of Habit. Cheers, Igor Bill Sun, 07 Sep 2014 21:04:11 -0700 wrote: On 07/09/2014 9:37 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Having used the K20D for four+ years I still find myself pressing the +/- button when I want to press the green button and vice versa. How long dose it take to get used to the button layout... You never do. bill -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - the Maier copyright mess gets more tangled
I completely understood you in the first message, because my own brain got in the way. :) On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I meant to say, “I doubt there’s any need to fear the IRS,” burt my brain got in the way of my fingers. On Sep 10, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Of course I don’t know what your brother-in-law’s financial status might be, but if he’s leaving less than $800,000 there is no inheritance tax. I managed my mother’s estate when she passed, and estimating the value of things like photographs and negatives was left to my discretion. Unless there’s an obvious attempt to drive the total below that 800K figure, I doubt that there’s no need to fear the IRS. On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: My brother-in-law, a retired photojournalist (Newsweek, Time), has left specific instructions to destroy his negatives after his death so his family won't be hit by US inheritance taxes on the estimated market value of the collection. He sells through Getty and Polaris so this is a valid financial threat. Kinda sad, I think. He did a close up and personal pictorial project with a young Bob Dylan and Rotolo, his then girlfriend, living in New York, and these rare shots would be destroyed, along with thousands of others. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Indeed. It has taught me ... I now have explicit instructions in my will as to what will happen with my photographs after I leave this mortal coil. Not that I expect them to be valuable to anyone besides me, but I will not allow vulpine lawyers to profit from my works. That's much worse than allowing treasure finders like Maloof and the other owners to profit from their discoveries. I'd much rather see the photos burned. The Virginia lawyer at the bottom of this latest turn of affairs is probably another redneck Fundamentalist Republican ... The worst kind of scum skimmer. Godfrey On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I'm not even reading all of that stuf and it makes me sad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
and new line of Sony cameras using them in January? Reported... http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-no-other-new-camera-from-sony-at-photokina-sr5-new-generation-sensor-and-cameras-release-in-january/ This is of interest, of course, since Pentax uses Sony sensors. 46 MP is darn close to the 645z's 51MP, though the pixel pitch would be quite different between the two. Would be interesting to see what the performance difference between the two will be. I think it also goes without saying that Nikon will probably be using this sensor, once sufficient quanities are available. In any event. I'm sure that Sony is going to give themselves a good lead time in the market before making them available to others. Wonder what the diffraction limit will be on those cameras? -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Not very tall ships
If that's a rescue, I'm giving up photography this instant. On 8 September 2014 22:05, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Greenwich has been horribly busy over the last few days, partly as a result of Mark! and Lisa! visiting, partly as a result of the Tall Ships Festival. The tall ships, what I saw of them, were rather disappointing, so mostly I got away from Greenwich to avoid the non-Mark! crowds. I did take a handful of pictures, but I forgot that my camera was on manual and I didn't set the exposure. I managed to rescue this one, for what it's worth, with Lightroom's high contrast blue filter. http://www.web-options.com/TallShips.jpg B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Back in the USA after the London PDML meet
Have you been to Barber in Alabama? I could be tempted with that one. On 10 September 2014 13:43, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Did you get to the museum? Yes! The National Motorcycle Museum near Birmingham is amazing! I spent hours there, took many photos and finally left when I reached sensory overload. Really superb place. I'll get up a gallery of photos before long... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Foggy Morning
Both have a nice feel, 1st especially. Fog really is a photographers friend. :) On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:20 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: We had some fog this morning so I took the camera for a walk. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/815/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/816/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: this one's for Bill
On 10/09/2014 1:18 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Does anyone else think this is, well, kinda twisted? It would be even more twisted were it a moose, but yes, it's pretty creepy. Pity he didn't keep a pet squirrel. bill On 9/10/2014 2:21 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: When you get bored with your helicoptercam: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29140059 I think a moose would be appropriate. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Happy Couple
Office attire has changed more than I expected since I stopped commuting. :) On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:16 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I love taking transit: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/09/the-happy-couple.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Foggy Morning
Fog really is a photographers friend. :) I totally agree. Does anyone other than me have a hard time converting a Foggy RAW shot? I find it takes alot more 'fiddling' than non foggy shots. Any secrets? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Foggy Morning Both have a nice feel, 1st especially. Fog really is a photographers friend. :) On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:20 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: We had some fog this morning so I took the camera for a walk. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/815/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/816/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I don't understand
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com: As you're probably aware, I've been working with the 'mirrorless' cameras since they first appeared on the market in late 2008. To write about all the advantages of going with these cameras over what I used to do with DSLR kits would take more time than I have available, but they are very compelling for my photography. An Olympus Pen digital is not a viable replacement for a quality DSLR (maybe for a consumer DSLR). An Olympus OM-D series camera (certainly the E-M1, maybe the E-M5 as well) or a Panasonic GH3 or GH4 definitely are. I think I'd add the E-M10 to that as well. My reading is that the M10 loses nothing to the M5 except the 5-axis stabilisation and it has inherited a number of feature from the M1 that are missing on the M5. I've only had my M10 for a couple of weeks but I think this thing could walk and talk (if I could just find the menu setting to activate that feature). I wish it were slightly larger as well, but I can live with the size. I'm not about to get rid of my K-5 but I really think mirrorless is the future. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ These cameras work very well although best with the lenses designed for them. My E-M1 is a far better camera than any of my Pentax DSLRs (I stopped shooting with Pentax after the K10D) with respect to haptics, features, and viewfinder ... And image qualities. IMO, although I've done it for years, you lose a lot with the smaller format when you adapt older SLR lenses simply because you're paying the weight/size penalty on the lenses which were designed for a larger format SLR, on which they image better. The Sony A7, on the other hand, gives you a Pentax MX sized body that works very nicely with nearly any SLR lenses via mount adapters. It has a very good viewfinder (nearly as good as the Olympus E-M1) and good controls/features. Where it's lacking compared to the mid- to upper-grade SLRs is in responsiveness (unlike the E-M1) and an overall somewhat clunky feel. It also works well with a carefully selected range of smaller, RF camera lenses which nets a much smaller, lighter overall kit to carry compared to nearly any DSLR system. I don't know that anything is 'chasing me away' from DSLRs so much as these new cameras are drawing me to them. I will nearly always pick the smaller, lighter camera over the larger, heavier one, and the added versatility to use any lens I want from my Nikkor, Leica R, Leica M, and other makes floating about in the closet is a huge plus with the A7. The camera is a chameleon: Fit a Nikkor lens and the imaging looks just like my Nikon F. Fit a Leica R lens and the imaging looks just like with my Leica R8. Fit the right Leica M lens, and the imaging looks just like with my Leica M4-2. And the overall body package is in that sweet spot, for me, of the Pentax MX/Nikon FM2 that I always preferred. I pick the E-M1 if I want pro-DSLR grade responsiveness and access to the superb Olympus HG and SHG lenses. Godfrey On Sep 10, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I had a brief fling with an Olympus a couple of years ago. It was fine as a point-and-shoot, at least as good as my iPhone. The kit zoom lens was decent. What I wanted, though, was to use it with viewfinder and to use it shooting in manual mode with other-brand lenses like Pentax and Leica (via adapter of course). The buttons/menus etc were not designed with manual shooting in mind. At least I could never figure them out. The viewfinder was too much of a downgrade from a good optical viewfinder. I sold it, use my iPhone or WG-3 as my point-and-shoot. I don’t know that there is anything about mirrorless chasing me away (except maybe the small sensor), but I haven’t found much to attract me to them either stan On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: When we were in Philly I saw far more mirrorless than DSLRs in use. After getting home I was chatting with a local store owner who found that odd since mirrorless sales are only a fraction of the market. Maybe they were all in one place at one time? Then last weekend we were in Wisconsin and Illinois. (Fresh curds ... yum.) Had a good conversation with a pro who shoots for stock. He uses (another brand) DSLR for action and a Sony mirrorless for general use. He likes the size/weight for carrying around, and the good lenses don't hurt. So I wonder ... is it just the form/shape that chases people away from these cameras? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian
Re: I don't understand
Likely so. I haven't had any direct experience with the E-M10 model. I like the slightly bigger size of the E-M1 as well as its compatibility with my FT lenses, but overall it's in the same line. With bigger lenses like the ZD 11-22 or ZD 50-200, the E-M1's HLD-7 grip provides additional mass for good balance and grip, as well as a second battery to extend shooting options. Godfrey On Sep 10, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com: As you're probably aware, I've been working with the 'mirrorless' cameras since they first appeared on the market in late 2008. To write about all the advantages of going with these cameras over what I used to do with DSLR kits would take more time than I have available, but they are very compelling for my photography. An Olympus Pen digital is not a viable replacement for a quality DSLR (maybe for a consumer DSLR). An Olympus OM-D series camera (certainly the E-M1, maybe the E-M5 as well) or a Panasonic GH3 or GH4 definitely are. I think I'd add the E-M10 to that as well. My reading is that the M10 loses nothing to the M5 except the 5-axis stabilisation and it has inherited a number of feature from the M1 that are missing on the M5. I've only had my M10 for a couple of weeks but I think this thing could walk and talk (if I could just find the menu setting to activate that feature). I wish it were slightly larger as well, but I can live with the size. I'm not about to get rid of my K-5 but I really think mirrorless is the future. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Happy Couple
good one Dave On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:16 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I love taking transit: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/09/the-happy-couple.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: this one's for Bill
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/09/2014 1:18 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Does anyone else think this is, well, kinda twisted? It would be even more twisted were it a moose, but yes, it's pretty creepy. Pity he didn't keep a pet squirrel. Or a pet skunk for crop dusting Dave bill On 9/10/2014 2:21 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: When you get bored with your helicoptercam: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29140059 I think a moose would be appropriate. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Foggy Morning
Love the first one Dave On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:20 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: We had some fog this morning so I took the camera for a walk. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/815/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/816/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Muscle memory.
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/09/2014 9:37 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Having used the K20D for four+ years I still find myself pressing the +/- button when I want to press the green button and vice versa. How long dose it take to get used to the button layout... You never do. Try switching back and forth from a K-5 to oh lets say the D200 or D2H. Menus are all different.Buttons all different. Makes my teeth spin some days.:-) Dave bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: this one's for Bill
The kid has just invented the Ultimate Instrument for the Torture of Cats. BRILLIANT! On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:52 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/09/2014 1:18 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Does anyone else think this is, well, kinda twisted? It would be even more twisted were it a moose, but yes, it's pretty creepy. Pity he didn't keep a pet squirrel. Or a pet skunk for crop dusting Dave bill On 9/10/2014 2:21 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: When you get bored with your helicoptercam: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29140059 I think a moose would be appropriate. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Foggy Morning
I like the first better also. I would have probably liked a longer focal length even more. Fog rewards telephoto lenses. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:52 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Love the first one Dave On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:20 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: We had some fog this morning so I took the camera for a walk. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/815/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/816/#peso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 100% reliable rumor 46MP Sony FF Sensor
46mp in a 24x36mm sensor seems like they're pushing the ragged edge of physics. On 9/10/2014 3:43 PM, Darren Addy wrote: and new line of Sony cameras using them in January? Reported... http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-no-other-new-camera-from-sony-at-photokina-sr5-new-generation-sensor-and-cameras-release-in-january/ This is of interest, of course, since Pentax uses Sony sensors. 46 MP is darn close to the 645z's 51MP, though the pixel pitch would be quite different between the two. Would be interesting to see what the performance difference between the two will be. I think it also goes without saying that Nikon will probably be using this sensor, once sufficient quanities are available. In any event. I'm sure that Sony is going to give themselves a good lead time in the market before making them available to others. Wonder what the diffraction limit will be on those cameras? -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I don't understand
Mirrorless cameras will displace DSLRs when it's less expensive to build a quality EVF than it is to build a Quality OVF. That's hasn't happened yet and it may never happen, or it could happen tomorrow. I've looked at both and I don't have a problem with EVFs as they stand now, but there are things that they just don't do as well as OVFs, they are however good enough for most situations and superior in others, but there 's no compelling reason for manufactures abandon OVFs and the systems they support. On 9/10/2014 5:50 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com: As you're probably aware, I've been working with the 'mirrorless' cameras since they first appeared on the market in late 2008. To write about all the advantages of going with these cameras over what I used to do with DSLR kits would take more time than I have available, but they are very compelling for my photography. An Olympus Pen digital is not a viable replacement for a quality DSLR (maybe for a consumer DSLR). An Olympus OM-D series camera (certainly the E-M1, maybe the E-M5 as well) or a Panasonic GH3 or GH4 definitely are. I think I'd add the E-M10 to that as well. My reading is that the M10 loses nothing to the M5 except the 5-axis stabilisation and it has inherited a number of feature from the M1 that are missing on the M5. I've only had my M10 for a couple of weeks but I think this thing could walk and talk (if I could just find the menu setting to activate that feature). I wish it were slightly larger as well, but I can live with the size. I'm not about to get rid of my K-5 but I really think mirrorless is the future. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ These cameras work very well although best with the lenses designed for them. My E-M1 is a far better camera than any of my Pentax DSLRs (I stopped shooting with Pentax after the K10D) with respect to haptics, features, and viewfinder ... And image qualities. IMO, although I've done it for years, you lose a lot with the smaller format when you adapt older SLR lenses simply because you're paying the weight/size penalty on the lenses which were designed for a larger format SLR, on which they image better. The Sony A7, on the other hand, gives you a Pentax MX sized body that works very nicely with nearly any SLR lenses via mount adapters. It has a very good viewfinder (nearly as good as the Olympus E-M1) and good controls/features. Where it's lacking compared to the mid- to upper-grade SLRs is in responsiveness (unlike the E-M1) and an overall somewhat clunky feel. It also works well with a carefully selected range of smaller, RF camera lenses which nets a much smaller, lighter overall kit to carry compared to nearly any DSLR system. I don't know that anything is 'chasing me away' from DSLRs so much as these new cameras are drawing me to them. I will nearly always pick the smaller, lighter camera over the larger, heavier one, and the added versatility to use any lens I want from my Nikkor, Leica R, Leica M, and other makes floating about in the closet is a huge plus with the A7. The camera is a chameleon: Fit a Nikkor lens and the imaging looks just like my Nikon F. Fit a Leica R lens and the imaging looks just like with my Leica R8. Fit the right Leica M lens, and the imaging looks just like with my Leica M4-2. And the overall body package is in that sweet spot, for me, of the Pentax MX/Nikon FM2 that I always preferred. I pick the E-M1 if I want pro-DSLR grade responsiveness and access to the superb Olympus HG and SHG lenses. Godfrey On Sep 10, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I had a brief fling with an Olympus a couple of years ago. It was fine as a point-and-shoot, at least as good as my iPhone. The kit zoom lens was decent. What I wanted, though, was to use it with viewfinder and to use it shooting in manual mode with other-brand lenses like Pentax and Leica (via adapter of course). The buttons/menus etc were not designed with manual shooting in mind. At least I could never figure them out. The viewfinder was too much of a downgrade from a good optical viewfinder. I sold it, use my iPhone or WG-3 as my point-and-shoot. I don’t know that there is anything about mirrorless chasing me away (except maybe the small sensor), but I haven’t found much to attract me to them either stan On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: When we were in Philly I saw far more mirrorless than DSLRs in use. After getting home I was chatting with a local store owner who found that odd since mirrorless sales are only a fraction of the market. Maybe they were all in one place at one time? Then last weekend we were in Wisconsin and Illinois. (Fresh curds ... yum.) Had a good conversation with a pro who shoots for
Re: OT: this one's for Bill
On 9/10/2014 4:09 PM, Bill wrote: On 10/09/2014 1:18 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Does anyone else think this is, well, kinda twisted? It would be even more twisted were it a moose, but yes, it's pretty creepy. Pity he didn't keep a pet squirrel. bill That would only work if it's name was Rocky... On 9/10/2014 2:21 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: When you get bored with your helicoptercam: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29140059 I think a moose would be appropriate. B -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Foggy Morning
That kind of depends on the nature of the fog and the effect you're trying to achieve. On 9/10/2014 4:51 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Fog really is a photographers friend. :) I totally agree. Does anyone other than me have a hard time converting a Foggy RAW shot? I find it takes alot more 'fiddling' than non foggy shots. Any secrets? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Foggy Morning Both have a nice feel, 1st especially. Fog really is a photographers friend. :) On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:20 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: We had some fog this morning so I took the camera for a walk. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/815/#peso http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/816/#peso Cheers, Dave -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Mini Cooper
A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ -- Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:07:13AM +1000, Philip Northeast wrote: A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ Well, mostly on the track, anyway :-) I don't think the gratuitous insult was called for, though. I've driven both the original and the new Mini (including getting an old Mini with less wheels in contact with the pavement than the one you depict here), and I know which I think is the better car. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Foggy Morning
On Sep 11, 2014, at 8:51 am, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Fog really is a photographers friend. :) I totally agree. Does anyone other than me have a hard time converting a Foggy RAW shot? I find it takes alot more 'fiddling' than non foggy shots. Any secrets? No secrets from me, I found exposure far more difficult than conversion. Then a fairly simple tweak of curves in Photoshop. Luckily I'd taken a few photos beforehand so had (approximately) the right compensation already dialled in. For that first shot I had to move quickly to be in the right place when the walker was where I wanted them. In reply to Darren, I only had the 16-45 with me and I'm pretty sure that one was at 45mm. I'm not surprised that everyone seems to prefer the first one. Part of the intent of the second was to show the full row of trees and how they vary in height along the path but the effect doesn't seem as strong in the photo. Maybe it's because I normally see them from the other side. I think they were all planted at about the same time so I've no idea why they've grown like that. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Step Falls
A bit abstract, it's not so easy to see what's happening here, but... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20stepfalls.html Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/SMC Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Step Falls
Maybe giving it more time...? Jack - Original Message - From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:47:03 PM Subject: PESO -- Step Falls A bit abstract, it's not so easy to see what's happening here, but... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20stepfalls.html Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/SMC Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Step Falls
I thought it was going to be more interesting because it was from a different perspective, but I'm afraid it's just confusing. On 9/10/2014 11:03 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Maybe giving it more time...? Jack - Original Message - From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:47:03 PM Subject: PESO -- Step Falls A bit abstract, it's not so easy to see what's happening here, but... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20---%20stepfalls.html Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/SMC Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mini Cooper
I used to love watching Minis at the production races at Mosport, Ontario before the F1 and CanAm races in the 70s. Huge crowds would gather at Moss Corner (the hairpin) and the higher the inside rear tire got the louder we'd cheer. If the inside front lifted it became an uproar. Once one rolled over and the crowd went berserk. The racer was right into it though: jumped out of his crumpled machine waving both hands over his head at the delirious crowd. Jolly good fun. Lovely photo. Cheers, frank On 10 September, 2014 8:07:13 PM EDT, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote: A real Mini Cooper on teh race track https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/15016470680/ “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
