Re: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things

[Jack Davis]

Ann, I do want a calendar. Please let me know how you would like this to work.
My pay Pal hasn't been used in so long that I doubt if it is active.
Please let me know how much and where to send the check.
Thanks! I just remembered to contact you.

Thanks,

Jack

1450 Eden Way
Yuba City, CA 95993

- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 7:19:55 PM
Subject: Re: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things

Ken -
Thanks and

good point about size I'll add that tothe smugmug listing  - it is there 
on cafepress... it is the only size they make now.

It is the standard wall calendar size, each page printed on 8 1/2 x 11" 
paper, landscape orientation, of course
so when hung for display it is 11 across and 17 " high

I know you recognized some of the locations :-)

ann

On 10/31/2015 10:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
> Very nice work Ann. I may have missed it but I see no mention as to the size 
> of the calendar.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>> From: ann sanfedele 
>> Subject: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things
>>
>> So sorry for the repeat email for some of you - and I know this is coals
>> to Newcastle ...and I showed the list the photos
>> already ... scroll down for the FS friday stuff that isn't the calendar..
>>
>> Here is a look  at the new one -
>> Kodachromes from two road trips in 1989 and 1992 to Alaska
>>
>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/Up-the-Alcan-Wall-Calendar/
>>
>>
>> This year I'd really appreciate all of you who are planning to buy one
>> or more order them from me and make your _selection_
>> by November 15 - that way I can order the calendars, quality check each
>> one when I get them and mail signed calendars to you
>> in plenty of time for gift giving.  If there are problems with them on
>> the cafe press side I'll have time to get them reprinted... and
>> there won't be any calendars that start before January 2016 :-)
>>
>> I say "selection"  because you can still order any of the other wall
>> calendars designed over the last 9 years from me.
>>
>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print
>>
>> They are $19.00  each plus shipping USPS at the lowest rate I can get
>> depending on the number of calendars you order..
>> ($3.00 if you only buy one.)
>>
>> this listing of mine on ebay for inkpress paper (cheap)
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/201446875915?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
>>
>> and this of possible interest..
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/191725338737?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
>>
>>
>> ann
>> annsan.smugmug.com
>
>


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Re: Poke

[knarf]

Yes. They're melon choly because they would prefer rock music. Their favourite 
group is The Smashing Pumpkins. Followed closely by The Lemonheads and then 
Bananarama. 

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 11:25:31 PM EDT, Alan C  wrote:
>They grow to organ music accompaniment which makes the fruit
>"melon"choly.
>
>Alan C
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: knarf
>Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 2:24 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: PESO: Poke
>
>Around these parts organic bananas aren't much more than regular ones.
>Once 
>in a while I'll buy organic.
>
>The flesh has a different consistency. Hard to express but it's a bit 
>creamier feeling. And they taste pretty good; again I don't really have
>the 
>vocabulary to properly describe it.
>
>Or maybe it's my imagination, any differences, if any, are subtle.
>
>Cheers,
>
>frank
>
>On October 31, 2015 8:18:26 PM EDT, John 
>wrote:
>>Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones?
>I
>>mean other than the cost?
>>
>>On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost made
>>a
>>> mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular ones.
>>> Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
>>>

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Re: Poke

[Alan C]

Now I know why you never sleep.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: knarf

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 5:49 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Poke

Yes. They're melon choly because they would prefer rock music. Their 
favourite group is The Smashing Pumpkins. Followed closely by The Lemonheads 
and then Bananarama.


Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 11:25:31 PM EDT, Alan C  wrote:

They grow to organ music accompaniment which makes the fruit
"melon"choly.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: knarf

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 2:24 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO: Poke

Around these parts organic bananas aren't much more than regular ones.
Once
in a while I'll buy organic.

The flesh has a different consistency. Hard to express but it's a bit
creamier feeling. And they taste pretty good; again I don't really have
the
vocabulary to properly describe it.

Or maybe it's my imagination, any differences, if any, are subtle.

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 8:18:26 PM EDT, John 
wrote:

Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones?

I

mean other than the cost?

On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost made

a

mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular ones.
Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola




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Re: Phonosnapographs

[David Mann]

On Nov 1, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> If you really want to be safe from the ravages of progress, use Lynx
> in a terminal emulator.

All I see is blonde, brunette, redhead.

Bob, the site seemed to work but it feels like they're trying too hard.  And/or 
I'm too old.

Cheers,
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Re: Peso-Clipper Mills Cabin

[ann sanfedele]

YEah, nicely lit and a place I'd like to get to... fix up the cabin, a 
little paint, some ginham curtains...e tc


ann

On 10/31/2015 8:27 PM, knarf wrote:

The light is very nice. Lovely shot of "rustic".

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 4:45:50 PM EDT, Jack Davis  wrote:


Took a leaf peeping drive yesterday well into the Sierra foothills.
Not a lot of color as yet, but enough to detect it's coming.
As had felt would happen, I came upon the same cabin I shot last
year, with a couple differences. Some one or group had decided the
beautifully positioned vine draped porch roof needed fixed. They
also took the opportunity to dishevel the delicately hung vine.
I wish they hadn't, but due to somewhat better lighting(?) and I
was holding the K-3 w/DA16~45 f/4, I took a few shots.

Comments appreciated.
Thanks!

J

1/80, f/8, ISO 640,

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=995



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Re: PESOs - Dark Angel

[Jack Davis]

Well caught of a beautiful young lady!

J

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:54:30 PM
Subject: Re: PESOs - Dark Angel

Thanks. It was still light out when I shot these so I dialed in minus 2.5 stops 
exposure comp and cranked up the flash.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:46 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> Pretty good.
> 
> I had to take a break from catching up with the list to go out & pay tribute 
> to my own neighborhood ghosties, goulies, zombies & goblins.
> 
> 
>> On 10/31/2015 8:12 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
>> Ready for trick or treating:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119573=lg
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119571=lg
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Re: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things

[ann sanfedele]

Yup -
Order from me please
(Oh, you just did! :-) )

$19 plus $3.00 shipping -  paypal is fine just use my email addy. No 
rush on the money, but fine if it is sooner than later.
To reiterate the drill at the most basic -I'm ordering the calendars on 
NOV 15,  will getthem out as soon as I receive them
with wiggle room if cafepress screws up printing - all should have 
theircalendars no

later than mid Decemberand hopefully sooner.

Thanks !

ann

On 10/31/2015 10:23 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

What's the preferred way to buy one? Do you sell them direct? I want one!

Paul via phone


Original Message-

Here is a look  at the new one -
Kodachromes from two road trips in 1989 and 1992 to Alaska

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/Up-the-Alcan-Wall-Calendar/

This year I'd really appreciate all of you who are planning to buy one
or more order them from me and make your _selection_
by November 15 - that way I can order the calendars, quality check each
one when I get them and mail signed calendars to you
in plenty of time for gift giving.  If there are problems with them on
the cafe press side I'll have time to get them reprinted... and
there won't be any calendars that start before January 2016 :-)

I say "selection"  because you can still order any of the other wall
calendars designed over the last 9 years from me.

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print

They are $19.00  each plus shipping USPS at the lowest rate I can get
depending on the number of calendars you order..
($3.00 if you only buy one.)




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Re: PESO: Poke

[David Mann]

On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:14 PM, knarf  wrote:

> Corn or wheat silage is a very common feed ration ingredient to be used. It 
> can account for the forage and concentrate portion of the diet. Silage is the 
> entire plant (seed and stalk), harvested in an earlier stage with higher 
> moisture, then stored in an anaerobic environment (without oxygen) where 
> fermentation occurs and breaks down the plant cell walls."

One of the places I go past on my regular rides often has a big silage pile 
fermenting away close to the road, but it's not sealed very well (maybe it's 
ripe stuff waiting for use).  It stinks something nasty.  I don't know how the 
cows eat the stuff.  Probably the same way that cats will happily eat cat food.

Cows here in NZ eat grass, supplemented with other foods as needed.  The dairy 
industry makes huge amounts of money by exporting to China but it comes at an 
environmental cost, both from leaching nutrients and effluent.

While the ruminants are treated fairly well here I can't say the same for pigs 
or chickens.  It's a pain buying free-range eggs as its legal definition, if 
there even is one, is so watered-down as to be almost meaningless.  The 
suppliers love playing the "out of sight, out of mind" game.  If we knew more 
about where our food came from we might be more selective.

Cheers,
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Re: Phonosnapographs

[ann sanfedele]

Bob -
The first photo is so large in firefox at %100 that Ican't see the whole 
thing... using the simple control+ or - it still resists my control.

So I tried it in chrome and same thing... doesn't sway me ..
Whatever else is going on with presentation that seems to be to be a 
bone fide glitch


ann


On 10/31/2015 10:42 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Hi Bob,

The snaps, as I’d expect, are lovely. However, I have a long-standing antipathy 
to gimmicky web presentations that don’t really add anything to (and in many 
cases detract from) the experience of appreciating the photos. To me, this 
falls solidly in that category.

m

On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:s


Microsoft have been releasing all sorts stuff recently including something 
called Sway and something else called Docs.com.

Seeing as I probably need to know something about this stuff professionally 
I've been playing around with them and put something together from a few snaps 
I have lying around on my phone.

I'd be interested to hear what you think of the presentation if you don't mind:

https://docs.com/BobWalkden/1478/phonosnapographs

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Re: PESOs - Dark Angel

[ann sanfedele]

Yes  what Frank said
ann

On 10/31/2015 8:19 PM, knarf wrote:

I can't believe how Gracie is growing. Such a young lady now! It's like she 
grew up in front of our eyes on this list.

These are terrific. She's doing very well with the "dark expression". Hope she 
had a good trick or treat!

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 8:12:49 PM EDT, paul stenquist  
wrote:

Ready for trick or treating:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119573=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119571=lg



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Re: Poke

[knarf]

They also like the song stylings of Fiona Apple.

Cheers,

frank 

On October 31, 2015 11:56:40 PM EDT, Alan C  wrote:
>Now I know why you never sleep.
>
>Alan C
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: knarf
>Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 5:49 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: Poke
>
>Yes. They're melon choly because they would prefer rock music. Their 
>favourite group is The Smashing Pumpkins. Followed closely by The
>Lemonheads 
>and then Bananarama.
>
>Cheers,
>
>frank
>
>On October 31, 2015 11:25:31 PM EDT, Alan C  wrote:
>>They grow to organ music accompaniment which makes the fruit
>>"melon"choly.
>>
>>Alan C
>>
>>-Original Message- 
>>From: knarf
>>Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 2:24 AM
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>Subject: Re: PESO: Poke
>>
>>Around these parts organic bananas aren't much more than regular ones.
>>Once
>>in a while I'll buy organic.
>>
>>The flesh has a different consistency. Hard to express but it's a bit
>>creamier feeling. And they taste pretty good; again I don't really
>have
>>the
>>vocabulary to properly describe it.
>>
>>Or maybe it's my imagination, any differences, if any, are subtle.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>frank
>>
>>On October 31, 2015 8:18:26 PM EDT, John 
>>wrote:
>>>Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones?
>>I
>>>mean other than the cost?
>>>
>>>On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost
>made
>>>a
 mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular
>ones.
 Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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Re: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things

[ann sanfedele]

I'll write  details off list
- thanks, Jack  your order is in:-)
ann

On 10/31/2015 11:19 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Ann, I do want a calendar. Please let me know how you would like this to work.
My pay Pal hasn't been used in so long that I doubt if it is active.
Please let me know how much and where to send the check.
Thanks! I just remembered to contact you.

Thanks,

Jack

1450 Eden Way
Yuba City, CA 95993

- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 7:19:55 PM
Subject: Re: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things

Ken -
Thanks and

good point about size I'll add that tothe smugmug listing  - it is there
on cafepress... it is the only size they make now.

It is the standard wall calendar size, each page printed on 8 1/2 x 11"
paper, landscape orientation, of course
so when hung for display it is 11 across and 17 " high

I know you recognized some of the locations :-)

ann

On 10/31/2015 10:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Very nice work Ann. I may have missed it but I see no mention as to the size of 
the calendar.


-Original Message-

From: ann sanfedele 
Subject: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things

So sorry for the repeat email for some of you - and I know this is coals
to Newcastle ...and I showed the list the photos
already ... scroll down for the FS friday stuff that isn't the calendar..

Here is a look  at the new one -
Kodachromes from two road trips in 1989 and 1992 to Alaska

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/Up-the-Alcan-Wall-Calendar/


This year I'd really appreciate all of you who are planning to buy one
or more order them from me and make your _selection_
by November 15 - that way I can order the calendars, quality check each
one when I get them and mail signed calendars to you
in plenty of time for gift giving.  If there are problems with them on
the cafe press side I'll have time to get them reprinted... and
there won't be any calendars that start before January 2016 :-)

I say "selection"  because you can still order any of the other wall
calendars designed over the last 9 years from me.

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print

They are $19.00  each plus shipping USPS at the lowest rate I can get
depending on the number of calendars you order..
($3.00 if you only buy one.)

this listing of mine on ebay for inkpress paper (cheap)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201446875915?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

and this of possible interest..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191725338737?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


ann
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Re: Poke

[Alan C]

They grow to organ music accompaniment which makes the fruit "melon"choly.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: knarf

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 2:24 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO: Poke

Around these parts organic bananas aren't much more than regular ones. Once 
in a while I'll buy organic.


The flesh has a different consistency. Hard to express but it's a bit 
creamier feeling. And they taste pretty good; again I don't really have the 
vocabulary to properly describe it.


Or maybe it's my imagination, any differences, if any, are subtle.

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 8:18:26 PM EDT, John  wrote:

Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones? I
mean other than the cost?

On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost made

a

mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular ones.
Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola




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Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)

[P.J. Alling]

Funny there's also a distiller named E. C. Booz selling Whiskey in 
Philadelphia about the time that Whiskey  was first being bottled 
(1850-1860).  That seems as likely a reason for the product's slang name 
as any.  Now I can't find the bottle making connection online, but I 
first read in in a book in a library long before "everything" worth 
knowing was online.


I mean really, we don't go to the crapper to take a crap because 
excrement was called crap.  We go to the Crapper because it was 
popularized by a London(?), well English anyway, plumber and plumbing 
manufacturer named Thomas Crapper, who popularized the water closet, and 
for this great service to humanity, he is forever immortalized as 
excrement.



On 10/31/2015 12:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



P.J. Alling wrote:

On 10/30/2015 6:42 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

As it says in the name of the album:

Plier, with booze.


"Booze" is to Lagavulin as "Broad" is to woman.

Now I've gone and broken my own rule: Never anthropomorphize Scotch.
It HATES it when you do that.


Booze was the name of a bottle maker, and Coors got into the beer
business because they made the beer bottles. I think I detect an
unfortunate trend here.



Interesting, when I looked up the definition on google I got:

Origin

Middle English bouse, from Middle Dutch būsen ‘drink to excess.’ The 
spelling booze dates from the 18th century.



From the Oxford:
Origin

Middle English bouse, from Middle Dutch būsen 'drink to excess'. The 
spelling booze dates from the 18th century.


MORE
People have been boozing for a long time. The spelling booze dates 
from the 18th century, but as bouse the word entered English in the 
13th century, probably from Dutch. We have been going to the boozer, 
or pub, since the 1890s.










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Re: Fighting enablement - lens choice question

[P.J. Alling]

On 10/31/2015 12:06 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



David Mann wrote:
On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:24 PM, Malcolm Smith  
wrote:



The next issue I have is more about acquiring skills than equipment


But equipment is such a good substitute for skill!


It has worked for me for years.


Don't sell yourself short Larry, you're ample proof that equipment isn't 
a substitute for skill...

(Sorry, I just couldn't resist).






Cheers,
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Mark Roberts]

Larry Colen wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>>> I LOVE that cartoon!
>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/phae39r
>>
>>   It's a classic, eh? It's a favorite among scientists, too.
>>
>> BTW, that "tutorial" bugged me so much I blogged about it:
>> http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1789
>
>You didn't even comment that everything he says to do in photoshop can 
>be done in lightroom.

Good point. I'll add that.
 
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Re: Warning for Mac users with Old PhotoShop versions

[Paul Stenquist]

I didn't really use CS 4 for much of anything, just to open an occasional 
InDesign doc. I was using Acrobat however, and it worked fine. I have PS 6, 
which I use daily, so I've been well covered for my photo work. But I need 
Acrobat for some client work, so I may have to buy the newest version. First I 
may see if I can get by with a combination of Preview and Photoshop, both of 
which have some PDF capability, I wonder if either can create multi page PDFs 
from Jpegs?

Paul via phone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 1:25 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> CS4 officially went unsupported (and wonky) on OS X about Lion or Mountain 
> Lion introduction time. That's several years ago! I'm amazed you were still 
> running it, Paul.
> 
> I have CS5.1, which still seems usable on El Capitan. I've hardly used it, 
> however. I've geared most of my work to be either 'done' as it comes out of 
> the camera, or to take very light tuning in Lightroom only. 
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:38 PM, David Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> That stinks.  I'm glad to say that CS5 is working fine for me on 10.11.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My new computer is running OS 10.11. I discovered today, and Adobe 
>>> confirmed, that the CS4 suite software is incompatible with the latest OS. 
>>> My Photoshop 6 works fine, and thats the software I use most often, but I 
>>> do occasionally need InDesign and frequently use Adobe Acrobat Pro. I’m now 
>>> trying to figure out if I can install an Adobe Acrobat DC upgrade with an 
>>> Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 serial number.
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RE: Fighting enablement - lens choice question

[Malcolm Smith]

David Mann wrote:

> But equipment is such a good substitute for skill!

*Sigh!* If only

Anyway, many thanks for your replies. I can report a rather nice parcel has
arrived with a 16-85mm WR lens. As is the way of things, I'm now in and out
of the house doing family jobs until tomorrow night, so I won't get a chance
to try it out until Monday. Typical!

Malcolm 


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Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)

[Bob W-PDML]

On 31 Oct 2015, at 06:12, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Funny there's also a distiller named E. C. Booz selling Whiskey in 
> Philadelphia about the time that Whiskey  was first being bottled 
> (1850-1860).  That seems as likely a reason for the product's slang name as 
> any.  Now I can't find the bottle making connection online, but I first read 
> in in a book in a library long before "everything" worth knowing was online.
> 
> I mean really, we don't go to the crapper to take a crap because excrement 
> was called crap.  We go to the Crapper because it was popularized by a 
> London(?), well English anyway, plumber and plumbing manufacturer named 
> Thomas Crapper, who popularized the water closet, and for this great service 
> to humanity, he is forever immortalized as excrement.
> 

The French word 'bouse', pronounced booze, nicely unifies these definitions. It 
means 'excrément de bovin'. That is, bullshit.

B
> 
>> On 10/31/2015 12:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> P.J. Alling wrote:
 On 10/30/2015 6:42 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> As it says in the name of the album:
> 
> Plier, with booze.
 
 "Booze" is to Lagavulin as "Broad" is to woman.
 
 Now I've gone and broken my own rule: Never anthropomorphize Scotch.
 It HATES it when you do that.
 
>>> Booze was the name of a bottle maker, and Coors got into the beer
>>> business because they made the beer bottles. I think I detect an
>>> unfortunate trend here.
>> 
>> 
>> Interesting, when I looked up the definition on google I got:
>> 
>> Origin
>> 
>> Middle English bouse, from Middle Dutch būsen ‘drink to excess.’ The 
>> spelling booze dates from the 18th century.
>> 
>> 
>> From the Oxford:
>> Origin
>> 
>> Middle English bouse, from Middle Dutch būsen 'drink to excess'. The 
>> spelling booze dates from the 18th century.
>> 
>> MORE
>> People have been boozing for a long time. The spelling booze dates from the 
>> 18th century, but as bouse the word entered English in the 13th century, 
>> probably from Dutch. We have been going to the boozer, or pub, since the 
>> 1890s.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
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Re: OT - Free Music Downloads

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On 31 Oct 2015, at 03:35, knarf  wrote:
> 
> Well, for the record what I downloaded was the Peter, Paul and Mary version. 
> I had no idea there really was a Peter, Paul and Marty. 
> 
> Also for the record I also have the original Dylan version which is much 
> superior.

His version of Puff the Magic Dragon was shit though.

B
> 
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Bob W-PDML]

On 31 Oct 2015, at 01:46, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> 
>> On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> John wrote:
>> 
 [...]
>>> 
>>> Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".
>> Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
>> appear to have got the gist of it.
> 
> Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a paper I 
> worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.
> 

Why stick at a press card? Go the whole hog and be an officer of the law. When 
I was in Bucharest a few years ago someone tried to arrest me and confiscate my 
cameras, using a plastic Sheriff badge as credentials.

B
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Re: OT - Free Music Downloads

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On 31 Oct 2015, at 14:21, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> His version of Puff the Magic Dragon was shit though.
> 
> LOL!

Puff the Magic Dragon is the first song I remember. I loved it when I was a 
kid. It was but a short step from there to Gangsta Death Metal Hippity-Hop 
Disco Groove.

> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM_lJdcH030=PL010D08A628B62197
> 
> Have you heard his Christmas Album?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus
> 

Thanks a lot - that's another decade of therapy I have to pay for, just when I 
thought it was nearly done.

I hate Christmas songs. Every year I struggle with the choice between having my 
auditory nerves severed, and going to live in Mecca.

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Re: OT - Free Music Downloads

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> On 31 October 2015 at 17:47 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> I hate Christmas songs. Every year I struggle with the choice between having
> my auditory nerves severed, and going to live in Mecca.

Before you cut or run, wrap your lugs around this.
https://youtu.be/S4uW2PT-190

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Re: PESO: Poke

[P.J. Alling]

Geez, I never said that Maize, (because corn is ambiguous), wasn't a 
decent food, I like Maize, but it's pretty much the worst original 
choice for a grain crop, and would never have been domesticated if the 
natives of the Americas had a better choice.


It has a lot of advantages, /today/, after a couple of centuries of 
selective breeding, and decades of scientific selective breeding, but 
it's early disadvantages outweighed those advantages.  Now It's actually 
easy to grow,(it wasn't always), and it can double as a vegetable.  The 
kernels store a lot of energy either as starch or sugar.  Yes, all 
that's true. But it also puts a lot of energy into a) (for humans at 
least), a large indigestible cob, and b) it is distinctly lacking in 
protein compared to wheat, rye, and a other old world grain crops.


That modern Maize is also used as a vegetable, (many of which are 
actually fruits, take the tomato for example), adds to it's versatility, 
but, it falls short of those in vitamins and minerals.  I never said 
that corn was bad, just that given a choice the Indians would have 
chosen something else.


Frank is right Corn is primary used in cattle feed to fatten Beef for 
market quickly, unlike him I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing.


Any vet will tell you not to feed your pet a food with too much Maize 
product.  Maize is a treat,


Any individual or civilization who is forced to rely almost entirely on 
Maize as a diet staple is at a disadvantage.


On 10/31/2015 10:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/26/corn-health-myths-nutrition_n_5591977.html
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice=90
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5687/2
Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:14 AM, knarf  wrote:

According to a Young Cattleman on an agriculture propaganda site:

"Corn is the predominant grain used because it is a great source of starch 
(carbohydrates) utilized for energy. Other grains used include oats, barley, 
sorghum, distillers (brewers) grains, and by-products of numerous grain and fiber 
milling processes.  These are referred to as the concentrate portion of the ration.

Corn or wheat silage is a very common feed ration ingredient to be used. It can 
account for the forage and concentrate portion of the diet. Silage is the entire 
plant (seed and stalk), harvested in an earlier stage with higher moisture, then 
stored in an anaerobic environment (without oxygen) where fermentation occurs and 
breaks down the plant cell walls."

That's for beef cattle, anyway.

And even if there were soy, it's hardly natural for ruminant.

Cheers,

frank

On October 30, 2015 3:10:27 PM EDT, "P.J. Alling"  
wrote:


Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough
nourishment.  One of the problems of the native American cultures was
lack of large domesticable  animals, and suitable easily domesticable
grasses.  No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the
only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't
one.

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Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

[Mark Roberts]

Some interesting questions arise!
http://improvephotography.com/35091/copyright-nightmare-taking-photos-of-people-with-tattoos/

 
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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

[Bob W-PDML]

I can't see the difference between photographing someone with tattoos and 
someone wearing clothes that someone else has designed, or a street containing 
buildings and billboards, and tons of other shit that's copyright. Sounds to me 
like a lawyer trying to drum up some spurious business.

B

> On 31 Oct 2015, at 18:22, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Some interesting questions arise!
> http://improvephotography.com/35091/copyright-nightmare-taking-photos-of-people-with-tattoos/
> 
> 
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Re: Warning for Mac users with Old PhotoShop versions

[steve harley]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, at 08:04, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Thanks Godfrey. Then I should be good to go with the Apple software. I
> have been using Pages from time to time because Word got flakey with the
> first release of 10.11 but updates seem to have corrected it. Acrobat is
> $450. Not a good value.

Preview has an Insert Page command that macs it easy to assemble simple
PDFs ad hoc

as with the other CC apps, you can also "rent" Acrobat for $22 per
month, which works out well for some people with occasional projects; if
you can get the intro price, a year subscription to the whole CC package
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Re: Warning for Mac users with Old PhotoShop versions

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Godfrey. Then I should be good to go with the Apple software. I have 
been using Pages from time to time because Word got flakey with the first 
release of 10.11 but updates seem to have corrected it. Acrobat is $450. Not a 
good value.

Paul


> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> You can certainly  take a bunch of JPEGs, and other image files, and output 
> them into a multi-page PDF using Automator and Preview. I do that at work all 
> the time. Between Pages, Keynote, Numbers, Preview, and Automator, my need 
> for the Adobe Creative suite has been reduced down to a very occasional dip 
> into Photoshop. 
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:51 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't really use CS 4 for much of anything, just to open an occasional 
>> InDesign doc. I was using Acrobat however, and it worked fine. I have PS 6, 
>> which I use daily, so I've been well covered for my photo work. But I need 
>> Acrobat for some client work, so I may have to buy the newest version. First 
>> I may see if I can get by with a combination of Preview and Photoshop, both 
>> of which have some PDF capability, I wonder if either can create multi page 
>> PDFs from Jpegs?
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Re: OT - Free Music Downloads

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> His version of Puff the Magic Dragon was shit though.

LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM_lJdcH030=PL010D08A628B62197

Have you heard his Christmas Album?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus


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Re: PESO: Poke

[knarf]

I'm not sure what that has to do with our discussion of corn as a predominant 
component in cattle feed. Cattle have evolved over millions of years to eat 
grass. Corn is fed to them at feedlots because its incredibly high energy 
content bulks them up quickly and cheaply for slaughter.

But the bovine digestive system isn't designed to consume that much corn. It 
leads to bloating and nearly constant low-grade infection such that 
prophylactic antibiotics are routinely added to their feed. 

I'm not saying that corn is bad, I'm saying it shouldn't be fed to cattle in 
the quantities we see nowadays. 

Cheers,

frank



On October 31, 2015 10:43:35 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
wrote:
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/26/corn-health-myths-nutrition_n_5591977.html
>http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice=90
>http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5687/2
>Dan Matyola
>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
>On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:14 AM, knarf 
>wrote:
>> According to a Young Cattleman on an agriculture propaganda site:
>>
>> "Corn is the predominant grain used because it is a great source of
>starch (carbohydrates) utilized for energy. Other grains used include
>oats, barley, sorghum, distillers (brewers) grains, and by-products of
>numerous grain and fiber milling processes.  These are referred to as
>the concentrate portion of the ration.
>>
>> Corn or wheat silage is a very common feed ration ingredient to be
>used. It can account for the forage and concentrate portion of the
>diet. Silage is the entire plant (seed and stalk), harvested in an
>earlier stage with higher moisture, then stored in an anaerobic
>environment (without oxygen) where fermentation occurs and breaks down
>the plant cell walls."
>>
>> That's for beef cattle, anyway.
>>
>> And even if there were soy, it's hardly natural for ruminant.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> frank
>>
>> On October 30, 2015 3:10:27 PM EDT, "P.J. Alling"
> wrote:
>>
>>>Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough
>>>nourishment.  One of the problems of the native American cultures was
>>>lack of large domesticable  animals, and suitable easily domesticable
>>>grasses.  No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and
>the
>>>only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't
>>>one.
>>
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>>
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[P.J. Alling]

That whole badge thing is a bit hard to swing in any civilized place.  I 
have been mistaken for a Cop once or twice, but only once to my distinct 
advantage.


On 10/31/2015 4:36 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

On 31 Oct 2015, at 01:46, P.J. Alling  wrote:

On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
John wrote:


[...]

Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".

Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
appear to have got the gist of it.

Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a paper I 
worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.


Why stick at a press card? Go the whole hog and be an officer of the law. When 
I was in Bucharest a few years ago someone tried to arrest me and confiscate my 
cameras, using a plastic Sheriff badge as credentials.

B



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Re: Warning for Mac users with Old PhotoShop versions

[P.J. Alling]

Well another reason I have to keep from moving off of WinXP for my photo 
machine is that I'm using CS2. Yea, I know, but, I don't want to pay the 
Adobe Tax.


My development machine is running Win7, which allows me to do some 
limited development for Windows 8, (with it's default content consumers 
interface), which I hate.  I'm probably going to have to upgrade that 
machine to Win10 very soon, an OS that makes my Skin Crawl, almost as 
much as the thought of using an advert supported Chrome Book.


On 10/31/2015 9:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

I'm still using CS .:-)

Dave

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

My new computer is running OS 10.11. I discovered today, and Adobe confirmed, 
that the CS4 suite software is incompatible with the latest OS. My Photoshop 6 
works fine, and thats the software I use most often, but I do occasionally need 
InDesign and frequently use Adobe Acrobat Pro. I’m now trying to figure out if 
I can install an Adobe Acrobat DC upgrade with an Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 serial 
number.

Paul
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Phonosnapographs

[Bob W-PDML]

Microsoft have been releasing all sorts stuff recently including something 
called Sway and something else called Docs.com. 

Seeing as I probably need to know something about this stuff professionally 
I've been playing around with them and put something together from a few snaps 
I have lying around on my phone. 

I'd be interested to hear what you think of the presentation if you don't mind:

https://docs.com/BobWalkden/1478/phonosnapographs

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Re: PESO - The Reader

[Mark C]

Great scene - good use of the 6x7 DOF. Has that smooth tonality that 
medium format can deliver.


On 10/26/2015 10:16 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

Venice, California, February 15, 2002. Shot on Portra 400VC color negative film 
with the Pentax 6x7 and the SMC Pentax 300/4. Scanned on th Epson 850 Pro.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18116548=lg



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Re: PESO ~ Kalila: Princess Warrior

[Mark C]

Cool concept! Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

On 10/29/2015 1:35 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

My wife, Louise, decided that I was having too much fun, and, desiring
to join in wrote up a theme for a shoot involving a princess
("Kalila"), an evil king ("Bardovudd"), swordplay and an enchanted
forest. Together we cast the roles, hired a swordmaster for accuracy,
and recruited a costumer, chalkboard artist, makeup/hair artist and
additional walk-ons.

We call it Warrior Princess.

There will be many shots from this ambitious effort, but here's the
key part, the princess. In real life she is Kaeli Taylor, Louise'
landscaping assistant (and not a model). Here she is wearing a custom
dress created by the costumer, Eva Mocek.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22504875585/lightbox/

K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 31mm, f:8, 1/180th sec, 100 ISO.

And a portrait ...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22261632139/lightbox/

K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f:4, 1/160th sec, 100 ISO.

Light was provided by three PCB Einstein strobes with 7" reflectors
staggered 3' apart and bouncing their light high up from a white wall
opposite the chalkboard wall.

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Re: PESO - Vancouver Evening Stroll

[Mark C]

Pleasant peaceful scene.

On 10/29/2015 10:25 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18117923=lg

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Re: PESO - Shimmering Lake

[Mark C]

Looks magical!

On 10/20/2015 10:34 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Despite the sun shining on the lake, it looked threatening for a bit:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/10/shimmering-lake.html

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

cheers,

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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Mark: thanks, that's an interesting article.

Bob: I don't know how it works on your side of the pond, but in the US, 
sculptures in a photo MAY BE and often ARE covered by copyright.

There have been several cases in the past decade or so.
See e.g. this case: 
http://www.sculpture.org/documents/scmag05/may_05/webspecs/grant.shtml

It looks like it is different in Canada:
http://www.photoattorney.com/update-on-lawsuit-against-photographer-for-photo-of-sculpture/

If you read that second reference above, you'll see that you can 
photograph and paint (on your own media! ;-) ) public buildings without 
copyright infringements.


As for clothes, I know much less about that area.
There is much lower level of copyright protection in the fashion design 
(if at all). You can read e.g. this document:

http://copyright.gov/docs/regstat072706.html

HTH,

Igor



 Bob W-PDML Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:38:41 -0700 wrote:

I can't see the difference between photographing someone with tattoos and 
someone wearing clothes that someone else has designed, or a street 
containing buildings and billboards, and tons of other shit that's 
copyright. Sounds to me like a lawyer trying to drum up some spurious 
business.



B


On 31 Oct 2015, at 18:22, Mark Roberts  wrote:

Some interesting questions arise!
http://improvephotography.com/35091/copyright-nightmare-taking-photos-of-people-with-tattoos/


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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[John]

On 10/30/2015 9:41 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:


From: "Mark Roberts" 

If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique

Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r

Painfully inept work!

Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a
joke at first.

It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know
how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it
for you.

Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".

Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
appear to have got the gist of it.



Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a
paper I worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.



But consider... would someone SO CLUELESS they can't even figure out how
to make a Blurb book for themselves be able to make them?


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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

[Steve Cottrell]

It won't be long before you'll have to pay a fee just to see a building
in the street. Google-glass style glasses will note your gaze and charge
accordingly. Rich bastards will have 180 degree f.o.v. lenses to take in
all the copyrighted architecture as you walk down the street. Careful
not to trip over the poorer folk like me who'll have blinkers taped to
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RE: Haven't been paying attention: Anybody own a K-3 II?

[Malcolm Smith]

Darren Addy wrote:

> I just (today) realized a great way to take advantage of the pixel-
> shift resolution of the K-3 II and so I'm seriously considering
> upgrading from my K-3.
> 
> Those of you who own one... what model did you upgrade from?
> Also, can anybody speak to whether the SR is actually better on the K-3
> II?
> 
> Thanks for any input!

For some reason, this ended up in my Spam folder which having cleared out
(and found others that were clearly not Spam) I now answer, somewhat late to
the party.

I sold a fair bit of stuff to fund the purchase of a K3 II. I wanted a
modern additional body. I would be wary of calling it an upgrade from a K3
as the two models are close enough, yet different enough to appeal to two
different buyers. The lack of a built in flash may be enough for some to
choose a K3 over the K3 II; I personally welcome the removal of the flash
and the integration of other technology - others may not. Dual card slots in
both models is also a big win for me, along with the 24mp sensors, which
whilst I like to crop *before* I press the shutter, I know that cropping in
Lightroom will still leave me a large image.

The improved SR was a deciding factor. I have only used it once with a long
focal length mirror lens (SR really shows up in use here) and I can only say
at this time it is as good as the K3. That alone is impressive, but I'll
find out in the coming months with the shorter days and longer shutter
times, as I use flash as a last resort. 

My intention has and still remains to team this up mostly with the 55-300mm
WR lens. I regularly take pictures of horse jump practice lessons in an
indoor school - some 20M x 80M in size - and I can only set up at one end so
most of the time the action is 50M+ away from me. One side of the building
is open, and the sessions are generally in the morning which produces very
harsh light on one side and dark shadow along the far wall. Even with a
sturdy tripod and pushing the ISO, I rely strongly on the SR to help me out
and get acceptable images. I greatly appreciate that the SR is built into
the body by Pentax.

I've not tried out the pixel shift yet, but I have one or two landscape
shoots in mind which will provide me with opportunity to try it out, as the
camera will be tripod mounted. I've also taken pictures over the years from
around the same spots with the *ist D, the K7 and the K3 (and film of
course) and so I look forward to seeing the changes.

I can't easily see where Pentax progresses with this range from here. 24mp
is really useful, but I can't really see the point of enlarging the numbers
without increasing the size of the sensor, so one for the new FF camera. The
only thing I would have liked was a screen just like the Nikon D750; that
range of movement and no touch screen function.

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Re: PESO: Letaba River Scene

[Mark C]

Amazing wildlife! The lens and TC combo worked out nicely though at 
those distances some atmospheric haze is inevitable.


On 10/27/2015 3:52 AM, Alan C wrote:
Another with the HD 55-300 @ 300mm and 1.7x AF converter = 510mm. f11, 
ISO 800. Overcast conditions. Taken looking N from the Engelhard Dam 
bird hide. Low water at the moment. The Impala in the foreground are 
about 150m distant, the Buffalos about 500m & the Elephants about a 
km. There are hundreds of waterfowl visible too. Rather noisy at ISO 
800. 400 would have been better but a tripod would be needed. Even at 
f11, the AF worked fine. I spot focused on the Buffalo in the middle.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/21889532194/

Alan C

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PESO Anita Cocktail (and K-3 mini review)

[Larry Colen]

Last Tuesday I photographed a corporate charity poker game that they put 
on every year during Oracle World.  Each year they hire Anita Cocktail 
as entertainment at the event:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/22619174886/in/album-72157660578347352/

I had been worried about the high ISO performance of the K-3 relative to 
the K-5, but it worked out just fine.  There were a couple of times that 
the autofocus didn't work as quickly as I had hoped it would, and I 
missed shots because it couldn't lock focus in time, in the relatively 
low light. Metering seems to have improved over previous cameras, and in 
many ways I much prefer the UI over that of the K-5.


The Raw/fx button is still broken in that if you accidentally bump it, 
it will change your operating mode, but you have to go through the menus 
to change it back. Unfortunately, they also took off the astrotracer 
functionality of that button, which is how I preferred to have it set.


It is nice that the body is shaped much the same as the K-5, so it feels 
familiar in my hands, though that did mean I occasionally had to look at 
it to remember which camera I was shooting with.


I sincerely hope that when they release the 24x36 sensor camera this 
spring they also release a lower priced APS version of it, so that I 
could have two different bodies, with different sized sensors (and 
prices) and still easily shift between them.  But, they probably will 
feel that more money can be made by making people buy multiple full 
frame cameras rather than giving them an easy learning curve on the 
upgrade path from APS to FF.


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Monthly favorites

[Larry Colen]

Faves for October:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157659251053769

And since I didn't post them for September:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157659251011819

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Re: OT - Free Music Downloads

[Sandy Harris]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> On 31 Oct 2015, at 14:21, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>> His version of Puff the Magic Dragon was shit though.
>>
>> LOL!
>
> Puff the Magic Dragon is the first song I remember. I loved it when I was a 
> kid. It was but a short step from there to Gangsta Death Metal Hippity-Hop 
> Disco Groove.
>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM_lJdcH030=PL010D08A628B62197
>>
>> Have you heard his Christmas Album?
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus
>>
>
> Thanks a lot - that's another decade of therapy I have to pay for, just when 
> I thought it was nearly done.
>
> I hate Christmas songs. Every year I struggle with the choice between having 
> my auditory nerves severed, and going to live in Mecca.
>
> B
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Re: Phonosnapographs

[John]

On 10/31/2015 2:53 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Microsoft have been releasing all sorts stuff recently including
something called Sway and something else called Docs.com.

Seeing as I probably need to know something about this stuff
professionally I've been playing around with them and put something
together from a few snaps I have lying around on my phone.

I'd be interested to hear what you think of the presentation if you
don't mind:

https://docs.com/BobWalkden/1478/phonosnapographs

B



NoScript REALLY doesn't like ajax.aspnetcdn.com very much.

Without it, all you get is a blank page.

If you do allow it, you then have to allow a further bunch of third
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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[John]

On 10/31/2015 4:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 10/30/2015 9:41 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:


From: "Mark Roberts" 

If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique

Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r

Painfully inept work!

Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a
joke at first.

It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know
how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it
for you.

Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".

Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
appear to have got the gist of it.


Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a
paper I worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.


But consider... would someone SO CLUELESS they can't even figure out how
to make a Blurb book for themselves be able to make them?


Ah, I see now! It's a Dunning-Kruger-based marketing strategy!




Could be. But is marketing the result of Dunning-Kruger or are
Dunning-Kruger individuals the target market segment?

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Re: OT - Free Music Downloads

[John]

On 10/31/2015 12:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



knarf wrote:

Well, for the record what I downloaded was the Peter, Paul and Mary
version. I had no idea there really was a Peter, Paul and Marty.

Also for the record I also have the original Dylan version which is
much superior.


In my experience, Dylan's music is almost universally improved by the
musicians who covered it.



Almost.

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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

[Mark Roberts]

Igor PDML-StR wrote:

>Mark: thanks, that's an interesting article.
>
>Bob: I don't know how it works on your side of the pond, but in the US, 
>sculptures in a photo MAY BE and often ARE covered by copyright.
>There have been several cases in the past decade or so.
>See e.g. this case: 
>http://www.sculpture.org/documents/scmag05/may_05/webspecs/grant.shtml
>It looks like it is different in Canada:
>http://www.photoattorney.com/update-on-lawsuit-against-photographer-for-photo-of-sculpture/
>
>If you read that second reference above, you'll see that you can 
>photograph and paint (on your own media! ;-) ) public buildings without 
>copyright infringements.
>
>As for clothes, I know much less about that area.
>There is much lower level of copyright protection in the fashion design 
>(if at all). You can read e.g. this document:
>http://copyright.gov/docs/regstat072706.html

Also, in the case of the Mike Tyson tattoo, the issue is Trademark
rather than copyright, so different laws apply.

Overall  the advice given in the article seems pretty sensible. In the
U.S, at least, the copyright owner can't sue unless the copyright has
been registered with the copyright office (and within 90 days of
"publication", which would mean when it appeared on the person on whom
it was applied).

 
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Re: Copyright issues: What if you photograph someone with a copyrighted tattoo?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Actually, here is the latest bill that I can find that covers fashion 
design protection:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s3523/text
And here is its discussion in Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2013/01/03/protecting-fashion-designs/
This bill was meant as a replacement for the 2006 one previously 
referenced by me. As far as I understand, it still has not been enacted 
by the Senate.


It turns out that EU and European countries provide better protection 
for the fashion design:

http://www.cardozoaelj.com/2014/09/19/protecting-fashion-a-comparative-analysis-of-fashion-design-copyright-protection-in-the-u-s-and-europe/
That article discusses several other examples that might be of interest to 
inquisitive minds.


Igor

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Mark: thanks, that's an interesting article.

Bob: I don't know how it works on your side of the pond, but in the US, 
sculptures in a photo MAY BE and often ARE covered by copyright.

There have been several cases in the past decade or so.
See e.g. this case: 
http://www.sculpture.org/documents/scmag05/may_05/webspecs/grant.shtml

It looks like it is different in Canada:
http://www.photoattorney.com/update-on-lawsuit-against-photographer-for-photo-of-sculpture/

If you read that second reference above, you'll see that you can photograph 
and paint (on your own media! ;-) ) public buildings without copyright 
infringements.


As for clothes, I know much less about that area.
There is much lower level of copyright protection in the fashion design (if 
at all). You can read e.g. this document:

http://copyright.gov/docs/regstat072706.html

HTH,

Igor



Bob W-PDML Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:38:41 -0700 wrote:

I can't see the difference between photographing someone with tattoos and 
someone wearing clothes that someone else has designed, or a street 
containing buildings and billboards, and tons of other shit that's copyright. 
Sounds to me like a lawyer trying to drum up some spurious business.



B


On 31 Oct 2015, at 18:22, Mark Roberts  wrote:

Some interesting questions arise!
http://improvephotography.com/35091/copyright-nightmare-taking-photos-of-people-with-tattoos/




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Re: World's worst photo tutorial

[Mark Roberts]

John wrote:

>On 10/30/2015 9:41 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>> On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>> John wrote:
>>>
 On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Jack Davis wrote:
>
>> From: "Mark Roberts" 
>>
>> If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I
>> said IF!) then this page... won't help much:
>> http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique
>>
>> Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my
>> favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker
>> cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r
>>
>> Painfully inept work!
> Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a
> joke at first.
 It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know
 how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it
 for you.

 Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials".
>>> Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you
>>> appear to have got the gist of it.
>>
>> Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a
>> paper I worked for at one time.  No one ever questioned them.
>
>But consider... would someone SO CLUELESS they can't even figure out how
>to make a Blurb book for themselves be able to make them?

Ah, I see now! It's a Dunning-Kruger-based marketing strategy!
 
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Re: PESO: Poke

[Larry Colen]

knarf wrote:

I'm not sure what that has to do with our discussion of corn as a predominant 
component in cattle feed. Cattle have evolved over millions of years to eat 
grass. Corn is fed to them at feedlots because its incredibly high energy 
content bulks them up quickly and cheaply for slaughter.


In much the same way that humans evolved over millions of years to eat a 
diverse diet that includes vegetables, fruits and meat.


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Re: OT - Free Music Downloads

[Sandy Harris]

Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> I hate Christmas songs. Every year I struggle with the choice between having 
> my auditory nerves severed, and going to live in Mecca.

I listen to Kevin Bloody Wilson's irreverent Christmas album. Here's
one of the more polite songs, still not safe for work. I cannot find
the original or even a really good cover online; this will have to do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFb5Umd6K6E

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Re: PESO: Poke

[knarf]

No, not in the same way at all.

We're omnivores but that doesn't mean we ~have~ to eat meat. 

We evolved so when plant-based food was scarce we had the option of eating 
animals. There is some evidence (admittedly disputed) that many prehistoric 
tribes existed on an almost completely plant-based diet, rarely eating meat 
except as a last resort.

Cows and other ruminants, on the other hand eat only one thing in nature: grass.

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 4:09:51 PM EDT, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
>knarf wrote:
>> I'm not sure what that has to do with our discussion of corn as a
>predominant component in cattle feed. Cattle have evolved over millions
>of years to eat grass. Corn is fed to them at feedlots because its
>incredibly high energy content bulks them up quickly and cheaply for
>slaughter.
>
>In much the same way that humans evolved over millions of years to eat
>a 
>diverse diet that includes vegetables, fruits and meat.
>
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Peso-Clipper Mills Cabin

[Jack Davis]

Took a leaf peeping drive yesterday well into the Sierra foothills.
Not a lot of color as yet, but enough to detect it's coming.
As had felt would happen, I came upon the same cabin I shot last 
year, with a couple differences. Some one or group had decided the 
beautifully positioned vine draped porch roof needed fixed. They
also took the opportunity to dishevel the delicately hung vine.
I wish they hadn't, but due to somewhat better lighting(?) and I
was holding the K-3 w/DA16~45 f/4, I took a few shots.

Comments appreciated.
Thanks!

J

1/80, f/8, ISO 640, 

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Re: Poke

[knarf]

Very interesting and informative read. Doesn't change my perspective though. 
Even if it's true that plants are sentient, how is that a justification to eat 
animals?


Whatever plants sense, I'm convinced that they don't feel pain, at least not in 
the same way animals do. 

And the intelligence they display seeks to be more like adaptation by evolution 
than anything else. 

One of the things plants have evolved to do is make animals eat them. They have 
made their seed pods sweet, juicy and delicious so we eat their seeds and 
spread them about in our auto-fertilizer packs (ie: poop). Pretty smart, eh? 
But more "evolutionary smart" than anything else.

There are actually "fruitarians" who only eat (you guessed it) the fruit of 
plants. I can see their point...

Cheers,

frank



On October 31, 2015 12:20:31 AM EDT, Alan C  wrote:
>Perhaps this will change your perspective?
>
>http://www.theguardian.com/environment/radical-conservation/2015/aug/04/plants-intelligent-sentient-book-brilliant-green-internet
>
>Alan C
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: knarf
>Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:14 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: PESO: Poke
>
>According to a Young Cattleman on an agriculture propaganda site:
>
>"Corn is the predominant grain used because it is a great source of
>starch 
>(carbohydrates) utilized for energy. Other grains used include oats,
>barley, 
>sorghum, distillers (brewers) grains, and by-products of numerous grain
>and 
>fiber milling processes.  These are referred to as the concentrate
>portion 
>of the ration.
>
>Corn or wheat silage is a very common feed ration ingredient to be
>used. It 
>can account for the forage and concentrate portion of the diet. Silage
>is 
>the entire plant (seed and stalk), harvested in an earlier stage with
>higher 
>moisture, then stored in an anaerobic environment (without oxygen)
>where 
>fermentation occurs and breaks down the plant cell walls."
>
>That's for beef cattle, anyway.
>
>And even if there were soy, it's hardly natural for ruminant.
>
>Cheers,
>
>frank
>
>On October 30, 2015 3:10:27 PM EDT, "P.J. Alling" 
> wrote:
>
>>Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough
>>nourishment.  One of the problems of the native American cultures was
>>lack of large domesticable  animals, and suitable easily domesticable
>>grasses.  No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the
>>only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't
>>one.

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Re: PESO: Poke

[Bob W-PDML]

On 31 Oct 2015, at 20:10, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> knarf wrote:
>> I'm not sure what that has to do with our discussion of corn as a 
>> predominant component in cattle feed. Cattle have evolved over millions of 
>> years to eat grass. Corn is fed to them at feedlots because its incredibly 
>> high energy content bulks them up quickly and cheaply for slaughter.
> 
> In much the same way that humans evolved over millions of years to eat a 
> diverse diet that includes vegetables, fruits and meat.
> 
> :-)

I don't think anyone denies that, but it doesn't stand as an argument for or 
against eating meat, or nuts or berries or tubers or any particular food, or 
against somebody making an ethical choice against eating animals, or indeed 
exploiting them in other ways. One of the ways in which we differ from cattle 
and many other animals is that we can make these choices and live by them. 

I think it's unlikely that any cow, however gifted in ethics, could choose to 
be a carnivore, any more than she could choose an exclusive diet of brazil 
nuts, as she'd be at a distinct disadvantage in a hunt, and might struggle to 
bring down even a sheep, let alone a zebra or wildebeest, and would have a 
difficult time chewing one even if she did.

Even apart from that, the argument that we evolved as omnivores doesn't take 
into account that meat for most of our time and for most people was a very rare 
meal and contributed very little to daily survival and health. The amount we 
eat nowadays is far more than we evolved to eat and is partly responsible for 
our bad health.

And then of course there's the unnatural and cruel conditions in which we keep 
and feed most farm animals compared to the way the animals lived before 
industrialised agriculture. Even the most avid meat-eater should have some 
reaction against that if they're any kind of decent human, and if it's only 
because they value quality and flavour should insist on meat from animals that 
are raised without cruelty and fed a natural diet.

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Re: Poke

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:45 PM, knarf  wrote:
> There are actually "fruitarians" who only eat (you guessed it) the fruit of 
> plants. I can see their point...

Steve Jobs apparently was a fruitarian, at least for a while.

I read that Ashton Kutcher tried the diet while preparing for his move
role as jobs.

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RE: Fighting Enablement - Lens Choice Question

[Malcolm Smith]

Bipin Gupta wrote:

> Congratulations Malcom, You now have an excellent lens in the 16-85 WR,
> that Ricoh-Pentax could have labelled "STAR".
> 
> I am glad that I had pointed you out to this lens as your first choice.
> Suggest you check it out thoroughly as some manufacturing defects have
> been discovered. The latest one is a shift in the image downwards after
> focusing. In the viewfinder you will notice the frame drops down a bit
> after the lens has focused.
> 
> Enjoy your new baby.

Thanks Bipin, I will check this out carefully on Monday.

Malcolm


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Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 2:08 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
>
> I mean really, we don't go to the crapper to take a crap because excrement
> was called crap.  We go to the Crapper because it was popularized by a
> London(?), well English anyway, plumber and plumbing manufacturer named
> Thomas Crapper, who popularized the water closet, and for this great service
> to humanity, he is forever immortalized as excrement.

That is a load of crap:

http://www.snopes.com/business/names/crapper.asp

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Re: OT - Free Music Downloads

[J C OConnell]

yup,
blowin- you want dylan, but for puff- you want p,p, & m.
jco

On 10/31/2015 10:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

His version of Puff the Magic Dragon was shit though.

LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM_lJdcH030=PL010D08A628B62197

Have you heard his Christmas Album?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus


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Re: PESO: Poke

[Daniel J. Matyola]

We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost made a
mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular ones.
Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 11:03 AM, knarf  wrote:
> I'm not sure what that has to do with our discussion of corn as a predominant 
> component in cattle feed. Cattle have evolved over millions of years to eat 
> grass. Corn is fed to them at feedlots because its incredibly high energy 
> content bulks them up quickly and cheaply for slaughter.
>
> But the bovine digestive system isn't designed to consume that much corn. It 
> leads to bloating and nearly constant low-grade infection such that 
> prophylactic antibiotics are routinely added to their feed.
>
> I'm not saying that corn is bad, I'm saying it shouldn't be fed to cattle in 
> the quantities we see nowadays.
>
> Cheers,
>
> frank
>
>
>
> On October 31, 2015 10:43:35 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>  wrote:
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/26/corn-health-myths-nutrition_n_5591977.html
>>http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice=90
>>http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5687/2
>>Dan Matyola
>>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>>On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:14 AM, knarf 
>>wrote:
>>> According to a Young Cattleman on an agriculture propaganda site:
>>>
>>> "Corn is the predominant grain used because it is a great source of
>>starch (carbohydrates) utilized for energy. Other grains used include
>>oats, barley, sorghum, distillers (brewers) grains, and by-products of
>>numerous grain and fiber milling processes.  These are referred to as
>>the concentrate portion of the ration.
>>>
>>> Corn or wheat silage is a very common feed ration ingredient to be
>>used. It can account for the forage and concentrate portion of the
>>diet. Silage is the entire plant (seed and stalk), harvested in an
>>earlier stage with higher moisture, then stored in an anaerobic
>>environment (without oxygen) where fermentation occurs and breaks down
>>the plant cell walls."
>>>
>>> That's for beef cattle, anyway.
>>>
>>> And even if there were soy, it's hardly natural for ruminant.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> frank
>>>
>>> On October 30, 2015 3:10:27 PM EDT, "P.J. Alling"
>> wrote:
>>>
Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough
nourishment.  One of the problems of the native American cultures was
lack of large domesticable  animals, and suitable easily domesticable
grasses.  No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and
>>the
only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't
one.
>>>
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Re: Warning for Mac users with Old PhotoShop versions

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

You can certainly  take a bunch of JPEGs, and other image files, and output 
them into a multi-page PDF using Automator and Preview. I do that at work all 
the time. Between Pages, Keynote, Numbers, Preview, and Automator, my need for 
the Adobe Creative suite has been reduced down to a very occasional dip into 
Photoshop. 

Godfrey


> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:51 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I didn't really use CS 4 for much of anything, just to open an occasional 
> InDesign doc. I was using Acrobat however, and it worked fine. I have PS 6, 
> which I use daily, so I've been well covered for my photo work. But I need 
> Acrobat for some client work, so I may have to buy the newest version. First 
> I may see if I can get by with a combination of Preview and Photoshop, both 
> of which have some PDF capability, I wonder if either can create multi page 
> PDFs from Jpegs?

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Re: Warning for Mac users with Old PhotoShop versions

[David J Brooks]

I'm still using CS .:-)

Dave

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> My new computer is running OS 10.11. I discovered today, and Adobe confirmed, 
> that the CS4 suite software is incompatible with the latest OS. My Photoshop 
> 6 works fine, and thats the software I use most often, but I do occasionally 
> need InDesign and frequently use Adobe Acrobat Pro. I’m now trying to figure 
> out if I can install an Adobe Acrobat DC upgrade with an Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 
> serial number.
>
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Re: PESO: Poke

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/26/corn-health-myths-nutrition_n_5591977.html
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice=90
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5687/2
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:14 AM, knarf  wrote:
> According to a Young Cattleman on an agriculture propaganda site:
>
> "Corn is the predominant grain used because it is a great source of starch 
> (carbohydrates) utilized for energy. Other grains used include oats, barley, 
> sorghum, distillers (brewers) grains, and by-products of numerous grain and 
> fiber milling processes.  These are referred to as the concentrate portion of 
> the ration.
>
> Corn or wheat silage is a very common feed ration ingredient to be used. It 
> can account for the forage and concentrate portion of the diet. Silage is the 
> entire plant (seed and stalk), harvested in an earlier stage with higher 
> moisture, then stored in an anaerobic environment (without oxygen) where 
> fermentation occurs and breaks down the plant cell walls."
>
> That's for beef cattle, anyway.
>
> And even if there were soy, it's hardly natural for ruminant.
>
> Cheers,
>
> frank
>
> On October 30, 2015 3:10:27 PM EDT, "P.J. Alling" 
>  wrote:
>
>>Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough
>>nourishment.  One of the problems of the native American cultures was
>>lack of large domesticable  animals, and suitable easily domesticable
>>grasses.  No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the
>>only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't
>>one.
>
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Fighting Enablement - Lens Choice Question

[Bipin Gupta]

Congratulations Malcom, You now have an excellent lens in the 16-85
WR, that Ricoh-Pentax could have labelled "STAR".

I am glad that I had pointed you out to this lens as your first
choice. Suggest you check it out thoroughly as some manufacturing
defects have been discovered. The latest one is a shift in the image
downwards after focusing. In the viewfinder you will notice the frame
drops down a bit after the lens has focused.

Enjoy your new baby.
Regards.
Bipin.

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Re: Phonosnapographs

[John]

On 10/31/2015 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:43 PM, John  wrote:


NoScript REALLY doesn't like ajax.aspnetcdn.com very much.

Without it, all you get is a blank page.

If you do allow it, you then have to allow a further bunch of third
party scripts before you can actually see anything.


Your dragging knuckles are showing, John. :)

Javascript is a well-established foundation technology of the web,
alongside HTML and CSS. You might as well deny CSS too while you are
at it and see how that looks.

If you really want to be safe from the ravages of progress, use Lynx
in a terminal emulator.



Merely pointing out NoScript's response to ajax.aspnetcdn.com.

Usually you can right click the Noscript icon and there's a menu where
you can choose to "allow" or "temporarily allow" scripts.

Ajax.aspnetcdn.com didn't make it onto that menu, it ended up buried all
the way down into a sub-menu of completely Untrusted, blocked sites.


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Re: PESOs - Dark Angel

[John]

Pretty good.

I had to take a break from catching up with the list to go out & pay 
tribute to my own neighborhood ghosties, goulies, zombies & goblins.



On 10/31/2015 8:12 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

Ready for trick or treating:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119573=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119571=lg



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Re: PESOs - Dark Angel

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks. It was still light out when I shot these so I dialed in minus 2.5 stops 
exposure comp and cranked up the flash.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:46 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> Pretty good.
> 
> I had to take a break from catching up with the list to go out & pay tribute 
> to my own neighborhood ghosties, goulies, zombies & goblins.
> 
> 
>> On 10/31/2015 8:12 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
>> Ready for trick or treating:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119573=lg
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119571=lg
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Re: PESO Anita Cocktail (and K-3 mini review)

[Larry Colen]

knarf wrote:

Fun portrait: Nice detail, great colour, focus on front eye, technically very 
good but that cut off lip is a bother.


Yeah, remember my mentioning having trouble with it locking focus. She 
kept walking towards me and by the time it locked focus, she was well 
within comfortable range for that lens.  Oh well, I still think it's a 
fun shot.


I later remembered another difference between the K-3 and the K-5, the 
sound of the shutter. I don't know if the K-3 is louder, but the sound 
is "sharper".


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Re: Peso-Clipper Mills Cabin

[Jack Davis]

Considerate remarks, Frank!
Thanks!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:27 PM, knarf  wrote:
> 
> The light is very nice. Lovely shot of "rustic".
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> frank
> 
>> On October 31, 2015 4:45:50 PM EDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Took a leaf peeping drive yesterday well into the Sierra foothills.
>> Not a lot of color as yet, but enough to detect it's coming.
>> As had felt would happen, I came upon the same cabin I shot last 
>> year, with a couple differences. Some one or group had decided the 
>> beautifully positioned vine draped porch roof needed fixed. They
>> also took the opportunity to dishevel the delicately hung vine.
>> I wish they hadn't, but due to somewhat better lighting(?) and I
>> was holding the K-3 w/DA16~45 f/4, I took a few shots.
>> 
>> Comments appreciated.
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 1/80, f/8, ISO 640, 
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=995
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Re: Fighting enablement - lens choice question

[Stanley Halpin]

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:17 AM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> David Mann wrote:
> 
>> But equipment is such a good substitute for skill!
> 
> *Sigh!* If only
> 
> Anyway, many thanks for your replies. I can report a rather nice parcel has
> arrived with a 16-85mm WR lens. As is the way of things, I'm now in and out
> of the house doing family jobs until tomorrow night, so I won't get a chance
> to try it out until Monday. Typical!
> 
> Malcolm 

If you aren’t going to use it, maybe you should send it back? Where are your 
priorities?!?

stan


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Re: PESO - Follow my Lead

[knarf]

He's concentrating! 

LOL!

Thanks for the comment, Ann. 

Cheers,

frank

On October 30, 2015 12:31:15 AM EDT, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>I thought the bass player was about to nod off or isnt' sure of where
>he 
>is :-)
>
>ann
>
>On 10/29/2015 10:31 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>> I said I'd have several murals this week. I'm stopping at two as the
>> rest don't rate - even by my low standards.
>>
>> But here's two parts of a jazz quartet I recently came upon.Love the
>> way the bass player seems to be waiting for a visual cue from the
>horn
>> player:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/10/follow-my-lead.html
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> frank
>>
>>

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Re: PESO - Follow my Lead

[knarf]

Thanks Dan. Glad you enjoyed it.

Cheers,

frank

On October 30, 2015 9:54:39 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
wrote:
>Great portrait of the horn player, and the bassist does add a lot to
>the scene.
>
>Dan Matyola
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>
>
>On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:31 PM, frank theriault
> wrote:
>> I said I'd have several murals this week. I'm stopping at two as the
>> rest don't rate - even by my low standards.
>>
>> But here's two parts of a jazz quartet I recently came upon.Love the
>> way the bass player seems to be waiting for a visual cue from the
>horn
>> player:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/10/follow-my-lead.html
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> frank
>>
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Re: PESO - Shimmering Lake

[knarf]

Thanks Mark. I'm always amazed how the lake looks different every time I go 
down. It's almost alive.

Your comment is most appreciated. 

Cheers,

frank 

On October 31, 2015 2:37:59 PM EDT, Mark C  wrote:
>Looks magical!
>
>On 10/20/2015 10:34 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>> Despite the sun shining on the lake, it looked threatening for a bit:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/10/shimmering-lake.html
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> frank
>>
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Re: PESO - Follow my Lead

[knarf]

Appreciate the nice words, Jack! 

Cheers,

frank 

On October 29, 2015 11:17:21 PM EDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>Has just enough tension to be successful.
>Good catch!
>
>J
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "frank theriault" 
>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 7:31:18 PM
>Subject: PESO - Follow my Lead
>
>I said I'd have several murals this week. I'm stopping at two as the
>rest don't rate - even by my low standards.
>
>But here's two parts of a jazz quartet I recently came upon.Love the
>way the bass player seems to be waiting for a visual cue from the horn
>player:
>
>http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/10/follow-my-lead.html
>
>Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>
>cheers,
>
>frank

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Re: High tide

[knarf]

Late comment: Very nice set. I especially like the red headed lad - looks like 
he's just realized that "there's no way out". One way or t'other he's getting 
wet feet.

Cheers,

frank

On October 29, 2015 4:15:52 PM EDT, Bob W  wrote:
>Not sure if this link will work, but I'll give it a try.
>
>High tide in Greenwich earlier today, taken with my phone.
>
>https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=439D213A93634DD4!105870=!AEJ73VLiIcHsff8=album%2c
>
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PESOs - Dark Angel

[paul stenquist]

Ready for trick or treating:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119573=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119571=lg

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Re: PESOs - Dark Angel

[knarf]

I can't believe how Gracie is growing. Such a young lady now! It's like she 
grew up in front of our eyes on this list.

These are terrific. She's doing very well with the "dark expression". Hope she 
had a good trick or treat!

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 8:12:49 PM EDT, paul stenquist  
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>Ready for trick or treating:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119573=lg
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119571=lg

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Re: Phonosnapographs

[John]

On 10/31/2015 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:43 PM, John  wrote:


NoScript REALLY doesn't like ajax.aspnetcdn.com very much.

Without it, all you get is a blank page.

If you do allow it, you then have to allow a further bunch of third
party scripts before you can actually see anything.


Your dragging knuckles are showing, John. :)

Javascript is a well-established foundation technology of the web,
alongside HTML and CSS. You might as well deny CSS too while you are
at it and see how that looks.

If you really want to be safe from the ravages of progress, use Lynx
in a terminal emulator.



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Re: Peso-Clipper Mills Cabin

[knarf]

The light is very nice. Lovely shot of "rustic".

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 4:45:50 PM EDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
>
>Took a leaf peeping drive yesterday well into the Sierra foothills.
>Not a lot of color as yet, but enough to detect it's coming.
>As had felt would happen, I came upon the same cabin I shot last 
>year, with a couple differences. Some one or group had decided the 
>beautifully positioned vine draped porch roof needed fixed. They
>also took the opportunity to dishevel the delicately hung vine.
>I wish they hadn't, but due to somewhat better lighting(?) and I
>was holding the K-3 w/DA16~45 f/4, I took a few shots.
>
>Comments appreciated.
>Thanks!
>
>J
>
>1/80, f/8, ISO 640, 
>
>http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=995

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Re: Phonosnapographs

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 31 October 2015 at 18:53 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Microsoft have been releasing all sorts stuff recently including something
> called Sway and something else called Docs.com. 
> 
> Seeing as I probably need to know something about this stuff professionally
> I've been playing around with them and put something together from a few snaps
> I have lying around on my phone. 
> 
> I'd be interested to hear what you think of the presentation if you don't
> mind:
> 
> https://docs.com/BobWalkden/1478/phonosnapographs

Once I got into it (Noscript is pretty effective) I was somewhat bamboozled.  It
seems to be a grotty way to display pictures - difficult to create a coherent
series of images when the viewer can click on anything they fancy from the
thumbnails.

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Re: Phonosnapographs

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On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:43 PM, John  wrote:
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> NoScript REALLY doesn't like ajax.aspnetcdn.com very much.
>
> Without it, all you get is a blank page.
>
> If you do allow it, you then have to allow a further bunch of third
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Your dragging knuckles are showing, John. :)

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Re: Phonosnapographs

[Bruce Walker]

That's one of the least friendly and usable image gallery
presentations I've met recently. I couldn't enjoy your photography at
all, Bob, sorry.

Microsoft never fails to surprise me with just how badly they can
design UIs. (Like Windows 8 and 10 on desktops: holy crap!)


On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> Microsoft have been releasing all sorts stuff recently including something 
> called Sway and something else called Docs.com.
>
> Seeing as I probably need to know something about this stuff professionally 
> I've been playing around with them and put something together from a few 
> snaps I have lying around on my phone.
>
> I'd be interested to hear what you think of the presentation if you don't 
> mind:
>
> https://docs.com/BobWalkden/1478/phonosnapographs
>
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Re: Phonosnapographs

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Bob W-PDML wrote:

>Microsoft have been releasing all sorts stuff recently including something 
>called Sway and something else called Docs.com. 
>
>Seeing as I probably need to know something about this stuff professionally 
>I've been playing around with them and put something together from a few snaps 
>I have lying around on my phone. 
>
>I'd be interested to hear what you think of the presentation if you don't mind:
>
>https://docs.com/BobWalkden/1478/phonosnapographs

Doesn't look too bad to me. I, like several others, don't like the
number of external JavaScript sources it accesses, but I've seen far
worse. It looks to have been designed for mobile devices and I expect
it works splendidly for them – it's pretty good on my desktop web
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Re: Phonosnapographs

[Brian Walters]

A problem I found was that when I clicked to open one of the thumbnails,
I was then stuck with no way to get back to the thumbnail view - no
navigation arrows were visible.

A bit of investigation revealed that if I clicked the opened image, the
thumbnails and navigation arrows re-appeared (I'm on Windows 7 &
Firefox).  This wasn't intuitive to me.

Nice photosnaps though...


Cheers

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> 
> Seeing as I probably need to know something about this stuff
> professionally I've been playing around with them and put something
> together from a few snaps I have lying around on my phone. 
> 
> I'd be interested to hear what you think of the presentation if you don't
> mind:
> 
> https://docs.com/BobWalkden/1478/phonosnapographs
> 
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Re: PESO Anita Cocktail (and K-3 mini review)

[knarf]

Fun portrait: Nice detail, great colour, focus on front eye, technically very 
good but that cut off lip is a bother. 

Cheers,

frank 

On October 31, 2015 3:22:31 PM EDT, Larry Colen  wrote:
>Last Tuesday I photographed a corporate charity poker game that they
>put 
>on every year during Oracle World.  Each year they hire Anita Cocktail 
>as entertainment at the event:
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/22619174886/in/album-72157660578347352/
>
>I had been worried about the high ISO performance of the K-3 relative
>to 
>the K-5, but it worked out just fine.  There were a couple of times
>that 
>the autofocus didn't work as quickly as I had hoped it would, and I 
>missed shots because it couldn't lock focus in time, in the relatively 
>low light. Metering seems to have improved over previous cameras, and
>in 
>many ways I much prefer the UI over that of the K-5.
>
>The Raw/fx button is still broken in that if you accidentally bump it, 
>it will change your operating mode, but you have to go through the
>menus 
>to change it back. Unfortunately, they also took off the astrotracer 
>functionality of that button, which is how I preferred to have it set.
>
>It is nice that the body is shaped much the same as the K-5, so it
>feels 
>familiar in my hands, though that did mean I occasionally had to look
>at 
>it to remember which camera I was shooting with.
>
>I sincerely hope that when they release the 24x36 sensor camera this 
>spring they also release a lower priced APS version of it, so that I 
>could have two different bodies, with different sized sensors (and 
>prices) and still easily shift between them.  But, they probably will 
>feel that more money can be made by making people buy multiple full 
>frame cameras rather than giving them an easy learning curve on the 
>upgrade path from APS to FF.

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Re:PESO - The Number You Have Dialed

[knarf]

Belated thanks, Don! 

Cheers,

frank

On October 27, 2015 9:58:05 AM EDT, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
>Yes, I think color adds to this street photo capturing the chaotic
>location.
>
>On 10/26/15 7:00 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 19:59:59 -0400
>> From: frank theriault
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: PESO - The Number You Have Dialed
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Re: PESO: Poke

[John]

Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones? I
mean other than the cost?

On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost made a
mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular ones.
Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.

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Re: PESO: Poke

[knarf]

Around these parts organic bananas aren't much more than regular ones. Once in 
a while I'll buy organic. 

The flesh has a different consistency. Hard to express but it's a bit creamier 
feeling. And they taste pretty good; again I don't really have the vocabulary 
to properly describe it.

Or maybe it's my imagination, any differences, if any, are subtle.

Cheers,

frank

On October 31, 2015 8:18:26 PM EDT, John  wrote:
>Is there any difference between "organic" bananas & the regular ones? I
>mean other than the cost?
>
>On 10/31/2015 1:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> We just returned from Wegman's our local supermarket.  I almost made
>a
>> mistake and purchased "organic" bananas instead of the regular ones.
>> Luckily, I realized the mistake in time.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>

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Re: PESOs - Dark Angel

[Ken Waller]

Great capture, your lighting really sets the mood.


-Original Message-
>From: Paul Stenquist 
>Subject: Re: PESOs - Dark Angel
>
>Thanks. It was still light out when I shot these so I dialed in minus 2.5 
>stops exposure comp and cranked up the flash.
>
>Paul via phone
>
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:46 PM, John  wrote:
>> 
>> Pretty good.
>> 
>> I had to take a break from catching up with the list to go out & pay tribute 
>> to my own neighborhood ghosties, goulies, zombies & goblins.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/31/2015 8:12 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
>>> Ready for trick or treating:
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119573=lg
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18119571=lg
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Re: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things

[Ken Waller]

Very nice work Ann. I may have missed it but I see no mention as to the size of 
the calendar.


-Original Message-
>From: ann sanfedele 
>Subject: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things
>
>So sorry for the repeat email for some of you - and I know this is coals 
>to Newcastle ...and I showed the list the photos
>already ... scroll down for the FS friday stuff that isn't the calendar..
>
>Here is a look  at the new one -
>Kodachromes from two road trips in 1989 and 1992 to Alaska
>
>https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/Up-the-Alcan-Wall-Calendar/
> 
>
>
>This year I'd really appreciate all of you who are planning to buy one 
>or more order them from me and make your _selection_
>by November 15 - that way I can order the calendars, quality check each 
>one when I get them and mail signed calendars to you
>in plenty of time for gift giving.  If there are problems with them on 
>the cafe press side I'll have time to get them reprinted... and
>there won't be any calendars that start before January 2016 :-)
>
>I say "selection"  because you can still order any of the other wall 
>calendars designed over the last 9 years from me.
>
>https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print
>
>They are $19.00  each plus shipping USPS at the lowest rate I can get 
>depending on the number of calendars you order..
>($3.00 if you only buy one.)
>
>this listing of mine on ebay for inkpress paper (cheap)
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/201446875915?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
>
>and this of possible interest..
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/191725338737?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
>
>
>ann
>annsan.smugmug.com



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Re: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things

[ann sanfedele]

Ken -
Thanks and

good point about size I'll add that tothe smugmug listing  - it is there 
on cafepress... it is the only size they make now.


It is the standard wall calendar size, each page printed on 8 1/2 x 11" 
paper, landscape orientation, of course

so when hung for display it is 11 across and 17 " high

I know you recognized some of the locations :-)

ann

On 10/31/2015 10:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Very nice work Ann. I may have missed it but I see no mention as to the size of 
the calendar.


-Original Message-

From: ann sanfedele 
Subject: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things

So sorry for the repeat email for some of you - and I know this is coals
to Newcastle ...and I showed the list the photos
already ... scroll down for the FS friday stuff that isn't the calendar..

Here is a look  at the new one -
Kodachromes from two road trips in 1989 and 1992 to Alaska

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/Up-the-Alcan-Wall-Calendar/


This year I'd really appreciate all of you who are planning to buy one
or more order them from me and make your _selection_
by November 15 - that way I can order the calendars, quality check each
one when I get them and mail signed calendars to you
in plenty of time for gift giving.  If there are problems with them on
the cafe press side I'll have time to get them reprinted... and
there won't be any calendars that start before January 2016 :-)

I say "selection"  because you can still order any of the other wall
calendars designed over the last 9 years from me.

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print

They are $19.00  each plus shipping USPS at the lowest rate I can get
depending on the number of calendars you order..
($3.00 if you only buy one.)

this listing of mine on ebay for inkpress paper (cheap)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201446875915?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

and this of possible interest..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191725338737?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


ann
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Re: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things

[Paul Stenquist]

What's the preferred way to buy one? Do you sell them direct? I want one!

Paul via phone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 10:19 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Ken -
> Thanks and
> 
> good point about size I'll add that tothe smugmug listing  - it is there on 
> cafepress... it is the only size they make now.
> 
> It is the standard wall calendar size, each page printed on 8 1/2 x 11" 
> paper, landscape orientation, of course
> so when hung for display it is 11 across and 17 " high
> 
> I know you recognized some of the locations :-)
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 10/31/2015 10:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Very nice work Ann. I may have missed it but I see no mention as to the size 
>> of the calendar.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ann sanfedele 
>>> Subject: FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things
>>> 
>>> So sorry for the repeat email for some of you - and I know this is coals
>>> to Newcastle ...and I showed the list the photos
>>> already ... scroll down for the FS friday stuff that isn't the calendar..
>>> 
>>> Here is a look  at the new one -
>>> Kodachromes from two road trips in 1989 and 1992 to Alaska
>>> 
>>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/Up-the-Alcan-Wall-Calendar/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This year I'd really appreciate all of you who are planning to buy one
>>> or more order them from me and make your _selection_
>>> by November 15 - that way I can order the calendars, quality check each
>>> one when I get them and mail signed calendars to you
>>> in plenty of time for gift giving.  If there are problems with them on
>>> the cafe press side I'll have time to get them reprinted... and
>>> there won't be any calendars that start before January 2016 :-)
>>> 
>>> I say "selection"  because you can still order any of the other wall
>>> calendars designed over the last 9 years from me.
>>> 
>>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print
>>> 
>>> They are $19.00  each plus shipping USPS at the lowest rate I can get
>>> depending on the number of calendars you order..
>>> ($3.00 if you only buy one.)
>>> 
>>> this listing of mine on ebay for inkpress paper (cheap)
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/201446875915?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
>>> 
>>> and this of possible interest..
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/191725338737?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> annsan.smugmug.com
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Re: Phonosnapographs

[Marco Alpert]

Hi Bob,

The snaps, as I’d expect, are lovely. However, I have a long-standing antipathy 
to gimmicky web presentations that don’t really add anything to (and in many 
cases detract from) the experience of appreciating the photos. To me, this 
falls solidly in that category.

m

On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:s

> Microsoft have been releasing all sorts stuff recently including something 
> called Sway and something else called Docs.com. 
> 
> Seeing as I probably need to know something about this stuff professionally 
> I've been playing around with them and put something together from a few 
> snaps I have lying around on my phone. 
> 
> I'd be interested to hear what you think of the presentation if you don't 
> mind:
> 
> https://docs.com/BobWalkden/1478/phonosnapographs
> 
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