Re: PESO hoofing it

[Christine Aguila]

Excellent!  Your friend should be quite pleased. Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 27, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
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> Shot some horses today for a friend. Fun time.
> 
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Re: BREXIT ! & What have the Romans ever done for us?

[P.J. Alling]

Strictly speaking they weren't civilized, they didn't build cities.  
More properly they weren't uncultured.  The had quite a sophisticated 
culture, it just didn't revolve around cities.


On 6/28/2016 9:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:


All good for everyone except us Norwegians, descendants of the tribe's
last retard who actually followed the ice northwards as it retracted, while
the rest of you busied yourself with inventing civilisation.


Your Viking forebears were hardly uncivilized.  The became masters of
shipbuilding and ocean navigation

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Re: Fishing bird

[Daniel J. Matyola]

"A *wonderful bird is the pelican*, His bill will hold more than his
belican, He can take in his beak. Enough food for a week."

a wonderful image as well.

I like the patterns in the surface of the water, and the soulful expression
of the bird.


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On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> Nice capture Bill. The water texture makes it for me along with the very
> crisp subject !
>
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> - Original Message - From: "Bill" 
> Subject: Peso: Fishing bird
>
>
> I was out this morning getting my picture for the upcoming PUG (which is
>> very nice), and noticed this fellow swimming around the lake fishing for
>> the fingerlings that inhabit it.
>> The EXIF is wrong, it was shot with the A*600/5.6 and A1.4X-L
>> teleconverter on the K1.
>> ISO 640, f/14, 1/640th second.
>>
>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/pelican.html
>>
>> enjoy
>>
>> bill
>>
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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Bill  wrote:

>
> I believe if you check, you will find your name at the top of this thread.


And your point is?
My original post was non-political;  I just expressed surprise at the
outcome of the referendum.  Lots of people were surprised, apparently.

I have been fascinated by the wide spectrum of views among this group.  As
long as we don't let it get acrimonious, or dominate photographic
discussions, a little exchange of political outlooks won't kill us.  After
all, this is the biggest international political development in quite a
while.



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Re: Fishing bird

[Paul Stenquist]

Well done.

Paul via phone

> On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:33 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Nice capture Bill. The water texture makes it for me along with the very 
> crisp subject !
> 
> Kenneth Waller
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> - Original Message - From: "Bill" 
> Subject: Peso: Fishing bird
> 
> 
>> I was out this morning getting my picture for the upcoming PUG (which is 
>> very nice), and noticed this fellow swimming around the lake fishing for the 
>> fingerlings that inhabit it.
>> The EXIF is wrong, it was shot with the A*600/5.6 and A1.4X-L teleconverter 
>> on the K1.
>> ISO 640, f/14, 1/640th second.
>> 
>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/pelican.html
>> 
>> enjoy
>> 
>> bill
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Re: Fishing bird

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture Bill. The water texture makes it for me along with the very 
crisp subject !


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- Original Message - 
From: "Bill" 

Subject: Peso: Fishing bird


I was out this morning getting my picture for the upcoming PUG (which is 
very nice), and noticed this fellow swimming around the lake fishing for 
the fingerlings that inhabit it.
The EXIF is wrong, it was shot with the A*600/5.6 and A1.4X-L 
teleconverter on the K1.

ISO 640, f/14, 1/640th second.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/pelican.html

enjoy

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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Ken Waller]

Ok Bill, I'll take your word for it that she's not a liar.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Bill" 

Subject: Re: OT: BREXIT !



On 6/28/2016 8:26 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Ok Bill, I'll take your word for it that she's not a liar.


It's just a good idea to make sure of your facts BEFORe posting crap.
As I said, check Politifacts.



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- Original Message - From: "Bill" 
Subject: Re: OT: BREXIT !



On 6/27/2016 6:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Hope trumps all.


But a liars pantsuit will eventually catch on fire.

Besides WHAT difference does it make ?


You should check politifact before you make yourself look like you
don't know the facts.



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- Original Message - From: "Bill" 
Subject: Re: OT: BREXIT !



On 6/27/2016 5:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Should I still be hopeful?


Hope trumps all.


J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Bill 
wrote:


On 6/27/2016 1:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Well, I hope I'm not blamed for whomever is put in power next
November!


Choose wisely.



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Re: PESO - Goat's Beard Seed head

[Gonz]

Yeah, I was surprised by how the phone could handle the focus.  Here
is the setup: 
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFFQWEBuSHP/?taken-by=rgonzomatic=en

And here is the uncropped:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFFQaaiOSHZ/?taken-by=rgonzomatic=en

I really like the result of your setup.  I have an older 50mm manual
macro that I need to take out and play with.  You have inspired me.


On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> "An iPhone and a magnifying glass" sounds like an interesting combination.
> Certainly an interesting angle of view on the dandelion. Thanks for looking.
>
>
> On 6/27/2016 11:24 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Gorgeous.  I love pics of plants like this.  I took a similar one of a
>> dandelion with an iPhone and a magnifying glass which I thought came
>> out pretty nice.  Here:
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BFFIdrIuSFG/?taken-by=rgonzomatic=en
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Very nice!
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
 On Jun 27, 2016, at 11:09 PM, Mark C  wrote:

 Thanks, Ken!

> On 6/27/2016 4:49 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
> Simply exquisite Mark !
> My kind of image.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: Mark C > Subject: PESO - Goat's Beard Seed head
>>
>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/goat-s-beard
>>
>> or on Flickr:
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/27944601255/in/dateposted-public/
>>
>> Mz-S, DFA 100 F2.8, Ultrafine Xtreme 400 in D76 stock.
>>
>> Comments welcome.
>>
>> Mark
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Re: BREXIT ! & What have the Romans ever done for us?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:

> All good for everyone except us Norwegians, descendants of the tribe's
> last retard who actually followed the ice northwards as it retracted, while
> the rest of you busied yourself with inventing civilisation.


Your Viking forebears were hardly uncivilized.  The became masters of
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Re: Connecting Pentax body to a scope

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Steve Sharpe wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:44:24 -0700, Larry Colen wrote:

I may have the opportunity to do some photos using a friends
telescope. I believe that what I'd need is a K-mount to T-mount
converter.

Are there any specific ones that people would recommend as doing a
good job and not being too expensive?


That depends on the telescope. My Celestrons have a prime focus camera
adapter to which you attach a standard t-mount, similar to this one:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/202137-REG/Celestron_93633_A_SLR_35mm_OR_Digital.html

If you are doing eyepiece projection photography of the moon or planets
then you need this:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/202147-REG/Celestron_93643_Deluxe_Tele_Extender.html

Other makes of telescopes will have similar accessories. Maybe your
friend already has the adapters, and all you need to supply is the
t-mount.


That would be my guess. Do you have a recommendation for a T-mount?  All 
I know is that I don't know what I need, or how to get a decent one 
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Re: Peso: Fishing bird

[Christine Aguila]

That looks quite nice, Bill. 

Cheers, Christine 

> On Jun 28, 2016, at 7:30 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I was out this morning getting my picture for the upcoming PUG (which is very 
> nice), and noticed this fellow swimming around the lake fishing for the 
> fingerlings that inhabit it.
> The EXIF is wrong, it was shot with the A*600/5.6 and A1.4X-L teleconverter 
> on the K1.
> ISO 640, f/14, 1/640th second.
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/pelican.html
> 
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Re: Peso: Fishing bird

[Jack Davis]

Nice, Bill!
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:47 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> 
> Looks very classy!
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Bill  wrote:
>> I was out this morning getting my picture for the upcoming PUG (which is
>> very nice), and noticed this fellow swimming around the lake fishing for the
>> fingerlings that inhabit it.
>> The EXIF is wrong, it was shot with the A*600/5.6 and A1.4X-L teleconverter
>> on the K1.
>> ISO 640, f/14, 1/640th second.
>> 
>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/pelican.html
>> 
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>> 
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Re: PESO - Goat's Beard Seed head

[Mark C]

Thanks, Bob. This will for sure be one of the new prints that I'll be 
selling in December - I'm part of a group that sets up and runs a 
gallery during the holiday, and that's the only place I'm selling these 
days. I haven't printed this yet but but I think it has the makings of a 
decent 12x18.


Mark

On 6/28/2016 10:48 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Mark,
That's a wonderful, classic image.
You should be selling it.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Thanks, Dan!

On 6/27/2016 4:41 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is a lovely, ethereal abstract image, Mark,  I love it.


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On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Mark C  wrote:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/goat-s-beard

or on Flickr:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/27944601255/in/dateposted-public/

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Re: Peso: Fishing bird

[Bob Sullivan]

Looks very classy!

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Bill  wrote:
> I was out this morning getting my picture for the upcoming PUG (which is
> very nice), and noticed this fellow swimming around the lake fishing for the
> fingerlings that inhabit it.
> The EXIF is wrong, it was shot with the A*600/5.6 and A1.4X-L teleconverter
> on the K1.
> ISO 640, f/14, 1/640th second.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/pelican.html
>
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Re: PESO - Goat's Beard Seed head

[Mark C]

"An iPhone and a magnifying glass" sounds like an interesting 
combination. Certainly an interesting angle of view on the dandelion. 
Thanks for looking.


On 6/27/2016 11:24 PM, Gonz wrote:

Gorgeous.  I love pics of plants like this.  I took a similar one of a
dandelion with an iPhone and a magnifying glass which I thought came
out pretty nice.  Here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFFIdrIuSFG/?taken-by=rgonzomatic=en



On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Very nice!

Paul via phone


On Jun 27, 2016, at 11:09 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Thanks, Ken!


On 6/27/2016 4:49 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Simply exquisite Mark !
My kind of image.


-Original Message-

From: Mark C 

Re: Connecting Pentax body to a scope

[Steve Sharpe]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:44:24 -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> I may have the opportunity to do some photos using a friends 
> telescope. I believe that what I'd need is a K-mount to T-mount 
> converter.
> 
> Are there any specific ones that people would recommend as doing a 
> good job and not being too expensive?

That depends on the telescope. My Celestrons have a prime focus camera 
adapter to which you attach a standard t-mount, similar to this one:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/202137-REG/Celestron_93633_A_SLR_35mm_OR_Digital.html

If you are doing eyepiece projection photography of the moon or planets 
then you need this:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/202147-REG/Celestron_93643_Deluxe_Tele_Extender.html

Other makes of telescopes will have similar accessories. Maybe your 
friend already has the adapters, and all you need to supply is the 
t-mount.


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Peso: Fishing bird

[Bill]

I was out this morning getting my picture for the upcoming PUG (which is 
very nice), and noticed this fellow swimming around the lake fishing for 
the fingerlings that inhabit it.
The EXIF is wrong, it was shot with the A*600/5.6 and A1.4X-L 
teleconverter on the K1.

ISO 640, f/14, 1/640th second.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/pelican.html

enjoy

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Re: BREXIT ! & What have the Romans ever done for us?

[Bill]

On 6/28/2016 5:40 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

All good for everyone except us Norwegians, descendants of the
tribe's last retard who actually followed the ice northwards as it
retracted, while the rest of you busied yourself with inventing
civilisation. Bummer. Jostein


Ah, but if they hadn't, we wouldn't be able to say "This is Fjord 
country, what do you drive"?


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Re: BREXIT ! & What have the Romans ever done for us?

[Jostein Øksne]

All good for everyone except us Norwegians, descendants of the tribe's last 
retard who actually followed the ice northwards as it retracted, while the rest 
of you busied yourself with inventing civilisation. 
Bummer.
Jostein 

Den 28. juni 2016 21.17.55 CEST, skrev Mark Stringer :
>Those were my Celtic ancestors who were very happy with their animal 
>skins and dancing naked around the fire.  Sounds like Woodstock.
>Stringer
>
>On 6/27/2016 2:32 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:
>> Hello Mark, when much of Europe were still in the dark ages, wore
>> animal skin and were wild, the Romans were a highly evolved, advanced
>> and a cultured lot - read civilization before Christ (BC).
>>
>> They "tamed" much of "wild Europe & Britannia". Brought modern skills
>> and knowledge - astronomy, architecture, the arts & drama.
>>
>> Of course the only other Civilization more advanced then was the
>Indus
>> Valley Civilization & India.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Bipin
>> from the IT Capital of the world - Bangalore.
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Connecting Pentax body to a scope

[Larry Colen]

I may have the opportunity to do some photos using a friends telescope. 
I believe that what I'd need is a K-mount to T-mount converter.


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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Bill]

On 6/28/2016 8:40 AM, Eric Weir wrote:



On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Ken Waller 
wrote:

Ok Bill, I'll take your word for it that she's not a liar.


I takes a lot of nerve for Trump to call Hillary “Lyin’ Hillary," but
he’s courageous that way.


He's a fucking retard that way.
In point of fact, he's a fucking retard in pretty much every way one can 
mention.


Doesn’t matter that practically every word

out of his mouth is literally a lie, he’ll call it like he sees it.


Actually, he calls it the way he thinks the person in front of him sees it.



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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Bill]

On 6/28/2016 8:26 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

Ok Bill, I'll take your word for it that she's not a liar.


It's just a good idea to make sure of your facts BEFORe posting crap.
As I said, check Politifacts.



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Subject: Re: OT: BREXIT !



On 6/27/2016 6:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Hope trumps all.


But a liars pantsuit will eventually catch on fire.

Besides WHAT difference does it make ?


You should check politifact before you make yourself look like you
don't know the facts.



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Subject: Re: OT: BREXIT !



On 6/27/2016 5:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Should I still be hopeful?


Hope trumps all.


J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Bill 
wrote:


On 6/27/2016 1:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Well, I hope I'm not blamed for whomever is put in power next
November!


Choose wisely.






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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Bill]

On 6/28/2016 7:48 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Bill  wrote:


Anyway, one of the agreed upon tenets of this list is that we don't talk
politics, carry on.



You certainly didn't let that stand in your way.

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I believe if you check, you will find your name at the top of this thread.


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Re: PESO - Goat's Beard Seed head

[Larry Colen]

Mark C wrote:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/goat-s-beard


Once again you demonstrate that I basically know nothing about macro 
photos of plants.




or on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/27944601255/in/dateposted-public/

Mz-S, DFA 100 F2.8, Ultrafine Xtreme 400 in D76 stock.

Comments welcome.

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Re: Geso Horicon Marsh

[Bob Sullivan]

It's a wonderful place, well captured.
It's on the Canada Goose flyway and fills with geese

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Consistently sharp and well composed images, Don!
> Enjoyed them all!
>
> J
>
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>
> Very nice!  I particularly like #13.
>
> You were right in my old stomping grounds.  I grew up in this area, in 
> Burnett, WI, and then Beaver Dam.  I made many trips to Horizon Marsh.  Then 
> my family moved to Green Bay which is near Door County.
>
>
>> On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
>>
>> I recently took a trip across Wisconsin to the Door county peninsula. 
>> Stopped at Horicon marsh, summer home to hundreds of bird species including 
>> our beloved mascot (shown only in silhouette to protect their identity.
>>
>> Show some mercy these were mostly taken from a moving boat in the rain using 
>> the Pentax Q and the 70-200 equivalent Q lens.
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Re: Geso Horicon Marsh

[Jack Davis]

Consistently sharp and well composed images, Don!
Enjoyed them all!

J

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Very nice!  I particularly like #13. 

You were right in my old stomping grounds.  I grew up in this area, in Burnett, 
WI, and then Beaver Dam.  I made many trips to Horizon Marsh.  Then my family 
moved to Green Bay which is near Door County. 


> On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
> 
> I recently took a trip across Wisconsin to the Door county peninsula. Stopped 
> at Horicon marsh, summer home to hundreds of bird species including our 
> beloved mascot (shown only in silhouette to protect their identity.
> 
> Show some mercy these were mostly taken from a moving boat in the rain using 
> the Pentax Q and the 70-200 equivalent Q lens.
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Re: Geso Horicon Marsh

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Very nice!  I particularly like #13. 

You were right in my old stomping grounds.  I grew up in this area, in Burnett, 
WI, and then Beaver Dam.  I made many trips to Horizon Marsh.  Then my family 
moved to Green Bay which is near Door County. 


> On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
> 
> I recently took a trip across Wisconsin to the Door county peninsula. Stopped 
> at Horicon marsh, summer home to hundreds of bird species including our 
> beloved mascot (shown only in silhouette to protect their identity.
> 
> Show some mercy these were mostly taken from a moving boat in the rain using 
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Re: Geso Horicon Marsh

[Jack Davis]

Well said, Stringer and find myself in
complete agreement. :)
Are you still finding a way to use the 
FA *300mm f/2.8 or rolled it over
to digital?

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
> 
> I recently took a trip across Wisconsin to the Door county peninsula. Stopped 
> at Horicon marsh, summer home to hundreds of bird species including our 
> beloved mascot (shown only in silhouette to protect their identity.
> 
> Show some mercy these were mostly taken from a moving boat in the rain using 
> the Pentax Q and the 70-200 equivalent Q lens.
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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Igor PDML-StR]

Jostein,

(sorry, I took me several days to finish my response - some crazy events..)

Yes, I think we understood each other correctly.

Our contemporary references might be based (in part) on different facts 
and observations. I see examples of various neo-{..., ..., ...} groups and 
growing attitudes throughout Europe. But you probably see many more signs 
of those.
Also, for me, the rise of Trump in the last year with an obvious reluctance of media 
and "intellectuals" keep bringing up in my memory the history leading to 
1933 and beyond.


As for right-wing vs. left-wing, I've always thought that (as in math) - 
extreme right and extreme left meet each other... Infinity to the positive 
side of the axis meets the infinity to the negative side.

After all,
dividing by positive infinity and by negative infinity both yield zero.

Cheers,

Igor



 Jostein Øksne Sat, 25 Jun 2016 02:40:47 -0700 wrote:

I assume you refer to Germany anno 1933, Igor?
With UKIP so prominently featured in Brexit, I've pondered the same. But
absolutism isn't right-wing only. The opposition against EU in my country for
example, is mostly leftist.
Jostein


Den 25. juni 2016 05.17.22 CEST, skrev Igor PDML-StR :


Brilliant!

Thank you all (Jostein, Mark and B.R.) for two well formulated thoughts.
I am also glad to see that I am not the only one seeing similarities between 
some of today's events and 1933's. (Although that decreases my hope that I 
was wrong in my evaluation.)


Igor


Mark Roberts Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:10:21 -0700 wrote:

Jostein Øksne wrote:


it seemed that the less people actually knew, the more absolutist their
arguments



Bertrand Russell summed up that (universal) phenomenon nicely in 1933:
"The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the
stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."



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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Mark Stringer]

Dems have learned a new trick.  Bill taught them how to tell us it is 
raining when actually he is peeing on us.  Now Hillary has seen the 
executive order wielded like a light sabre.  Trump is obnoxious but I 
don't think he will break laws.  I have a good friend who thinks Trump 
is the devil incarnate.  I would like to vote for Bernie and avoid this 
whole mess.  I think we could survive Bernie better than Hillary if she 
goes off the rails.  Where is that giant asteroid...might make all this 
moot.


On 6/28/2016 10:36 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:13 AM, P.J. Alling 
wrote:


The results will be distasteful, if not disastrous, either way.



Distasteful without a doubt.  Disastrous, no.  The country is durable.  It
has survived idiots and incompetents in the past, and it will survive the
idiot who survives in November.

If Trump is elected, I don't see how he can possibly get any of his ideas
past Congress.  HRC may be the most dangerous, only because she is more
likely to actually push her designs through.


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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Mark Stringer]

For the right amount of money, and advance notice Clinton probably 
wouldn't press it.


On 6/27/2016 8:52 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Just imagine who's finger you would want on the nuclear launch button.  Bob S.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

There is no absolute truth, Bill, and Ken is entitled to his position. Hillary 
is far from an ideal presidential candidate, although I personally prefer her 
sleaziness to the recklessness of Trump. But by a narrow margin. I’ll probably 
hold my nose and vote for her. She is smarter than Trump, In my opinion. 
Poliifact is not a source of truth. It’s deeply biased. Facts are elusive.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Bill  wrote:
On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 6/27/2016 6:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Hope trumps all.


But a liars pantsuit will eventually catch on fire.

Besides WHAT difference does it make ?


You should check politifact before you make yourself look like you don't know 
the facts.



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Subject: Re: OT: BREXIT !



On 6/27/2016 5:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Should I still be hopeful?


Hope trumps all.


J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Bill  wrote:


On 6/27/2016 1:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Well, I hope I'm not blamed for whomever is put in power next
November!


Choose wisely.






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Geso Horicon Marsh

[Donald Guthrie]

I recently took a trip across Wisconsin to the Door county peninsula. 
Stopped at Horicon marsh, summer home to hundreds of bird species 
including our beloved mascot (shown only in silhouette to protect their 
identity.


Show some mercy these were mostly taken from a moving boat in the rain 
using the Pentax Q and the 70-200 equivalent Q lens.


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Re: BREXIT !

[Mark Stringer]

That's why we love Pentax. Perpetual compatibility.
Stringer


On 6/27/2016 6:38 PM, Bill wrote:

On 6/27/2016 10:32 AM, Alan C wrote:

& much, much more. The Romans left an astonishing legacy. In fact, the
whole structure of British (& much of European) society.



This isn't a true story, though it is strange enough that it could be:


The US standard railroad gauge (distance between
the rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That’s an
exceedingly odd number.

Why was that gauge used?

Because that’s the way they built them in England,
and English expatriates built the US Railroads.

Why did the English build them like that?

Because the first rail lines were built by the
same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and
that’s the gauge they used.

Why did “they” use that gauge then?

Because the people who built the tramways used
the same jigs and tools that they used for building
wagons, which used that wheel spacing.

Okay! Why did the wagons have that particular
odd wheel spacing?

Well, if they tried to use any other spacing,
the wagon wheels would break on some of the old,
long distance roads in England, because that’s
the spacing of the wheel ruts.

So who built those old rutted roads?

Imperial Rome built the first long distance
roads in Europe (and England) for their legions. The
roads have been used ever since.

And the ruts in the roads?

Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts,
which everyone else had to match for fear of
destroying their wagon wheels.
Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome, they
were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing.

The United States standard railroad gauge of 4
feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original
specifications for an Imperial Roman war chariot.
And bureaucracies live forever. So the next time you
are handed a specification and wonder what horse’s
ass came up with it, you may be exactly right,
because the Imperial Roman war chariots were made
just wide enough to accommodate the back ends of two
war horses. Now the twist to the story…

When you see a Space Shuttle sitting on its
launch pad, there are two big booster rockets
attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These
are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are
made by Thiokol at their factory at Utah. The
engineers who designed the SRBs would have preferred
to make them a bit fatter, but the SRBs had to
be shipped by train from the factory to the launch
site. The railroad line from the factory happens to
run through a tunnel in the mountains. The SRBs had
to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly
wider than the railroad track, and the railroad
track, as you now know, is about as wide as two
horses’ behinds.

So, a major Space Shuttle design feature of what
is arguably the world’s most advanced transportation
system was determined over two thousand years ago by
the width of a horse’s ass. … and you thought
being a HORSE’S ASS wasn’t important!



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Re: BREXIT ! & What have the Romans ever done for us?

[Mark Stringer]

Those were my Celtic ancestors who were very happy with their animal 
skins and dancing naked around the fire.  Sounds like Woodstock.

Stringer

On 6/27/2016 2:32 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Hello Mark, when much of Europe were still in the dark ages, wore
animal skin and were wild, the Romans were a highly evolved, advanced
and a cultured lot - read civilization before Christ (BC).

They "tamed" much of "wild Europe & Britannia". Brought modern skills
and knowledge - astronomy, architecture, the arts & drama.

Of course the only other Civilization more advanced then was the Indus
Valley Civilization & India.

Regards.
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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Bob Sullivan]

Not only retail, but 'up close and personal.'  The roman sword was
short, short, short.  Regards, Bob S.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 12:36 PM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:
> On 6/28/2016 1:18 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Mark Roberts
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill wrote:

 We tried, not sure if we succeeded. Those damned Romans really tried to
 bugger things.
>>>
>>> What have the Romans ever done for us?
>>
>> Brought peace?
>>
>
> They were very efficient at it.  If you opposed their will, or threatened
> trade they just sent in troops to kill everyone who didn't listen to reason.
> Of course what the Romans considered reason might not seem to reasonable to
> those concerned.  The amazing thing is the Romans had no real weapons of
> wholesale killing, and they had to do it retail.
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Re: Nine-spotted moth

[Christine Aguila]

I agree with Ken!
Cheers, Christine 

> On Jun 26, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Toine, it appears a little soft but it is a very good capture with the pose 
> and wonderful backgrund !
> 
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> - Original Message - From: "Toine" 
> Subject: PESO: Nine-spotted moth
> 
> 
>> A day active moth. It used to be as rare as hen's teeth and now it's
>> everywhere.
>> Dutch name translates as milk drop.
>> 
>> http://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/content/melkdrupje/
>> Or 500px if my site is off-line: https://500px.com/photo/160406255
>> 
>> Q7 and 06 lens with raynox 150. Total weight 350g :)
>> 
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Re: OT: BREXIT !

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On 6/28/2016 1:18 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

Bill wrote:

We tried, not sure if we succeeded. Those damned Romans really tried to
bugger things.

What have the Romans ever done for us?

Brought peace?



They were very efficient at it.  If you opposed their will, or 
threatened trade they just sent in troops to kill everyone who didn't 
listen to reason.  Of course what the Romans considered reason might not 
seem to reasonable to those concerned.  The amazing thing is the Romans 
had no real weapons of wholesale killing, and they had to do it retail.


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Re: OT: BREXIT !

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On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>>
>>We tried, not sure if we succeeded. Those damned Romans really tried to
>>bugger things.
>
> What have the Romans ever done for us?

Brought peace?

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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[John]

Personally, I'd be quite happy for any and all of them to keep their
hands to themselves.

On 6/27/2016 9:52 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Just imagine who's finger you would want on the nuclear launch button.  Bob S.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

There is no absolute truth, Bill, and Ken is entitled to his
position. Hillary is far from an ideal presidential candidate,
although I personally prefer her sleaziness to the recklessness of
Trump. But by a narrow margin. I’ll probably hold my nose and vote
for her. She is smarter than Trump, In my opinion. Poliifact is not
a source of truth. It’s deeply biased. Facts are elusive.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Bill  wrote:
On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 6/27/2016 6:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Hope trumps all.


But a liars pantsuit will eventually catch on fire.

Besides WHAT difference does it make ?


You should check politifact before you make yourself look like you don't know 
the facts.



Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: OT: BREXIT !



On 6/27/2016 5:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Should I still be hopeful?


Hope trumps all.


J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Bill  wrote:


On 6/27/2016 1:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Well, I hope I'm not blamed for whomever is put in power next
November!


Choose wisely.






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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:13 AM, P.J. Alling 
wrote:

> The results will be distasteful, if not disastrous, either way.


Distasteful without a doubt.  Disastrous, no.  The country is durable.  It
has survived idiots and incompetents in the past, and it will survive the
idiot who survives in November.

If Trump is elected, I don't see how he can possibly get any of his ideas
past Congress.  HRC may be the most dangerous, only because she is more
likely to actually push her designs through.


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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:16 AM, P.J. Alling 
wrote:

> Concrete, the Romans invented concrete.  For good or for ill.


Yes.  They substituted concrete for marble, and employed crucifixion to
terrorize all who opposed their rule.

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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Bob Sullivan]

I'm with you PJ.
My family knows I'm an ABH guy...Anybody But Hillary.
Unfortunately when that's Donald Trump, I have to re-evaluate.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:13 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> I wouldn't bet that she's the smarter one.
>
> Both have played the system, and broken it to their advantage. Sadly we have
> the two most awful rules of politics embodied in two awful people.
>
> The rich become powerful, and it's converse the powerful become rich.
>
> Hillery's major accomplishment is she married Bill.
>
> Trump has two accomplishments, he was born to his mother and outlived his
> father.
>
>
> The results will be distasteful, if not disastrous, either way.
>
> On 6/27/2016 8:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> There is no absolute truth, Bill, and Ken is entitled to his position.
>> Hillary is far from an ideal presidential candidate, although I personally
>> prefer her sleaziness to the recklessness of Trump. But by a narrow margin.
>> I’ll probably hold my nose and vote for her. She is smarter than Trump, In
>> my opinion. Poliifact is not a source of truth. It’s deeply biased. Facts
>> are elusive.
>>
>> http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans
>>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/27/2016 6:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>
> Hope trumps all.

 But a liars pantsuit will eventually catch on fire.

 Besides WHAT difference does it make ?
>>>
>>> You should check politifact before you make yourself look like you don't
>>> know the facts.
>>>
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 - Original Message - From: "Bill" 
 Subject: Re: OT: BREXIT !


> On 6/27/2016 5:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>> Should I still be hopeful?
>
> Hope trumps all.
>>
>> J
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Bill 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On 6/27/2016 1:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 Well, I hope I'm not blamed for whomever is put in power next
 November!
>>>
>>> Choose wisely.


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Re: PESO - Goat's Beard Seed head

[Bob Sullivan]

Mark,
That's a wonderful, classic image.
You should be selling it.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> Thanks, Dan!
>
> On 6/27/2016 4:41 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> That is a lovely, ethereal abstract image, Mark,  I love it.
>>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
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>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/goat-s-beard
>>>
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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Eric Weir]

> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Ok Bill, I'll take your word for it that she's not a liar.

I takes a lot of nerve for Trump to call Hillary “Lyin’ Hillary," but he’s 
courageous that way. Doesn’t matter that practically every word out of his 
mouth is literally a lie, he’ll call it like he sees it. 

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BREXIT !

[Bipin Gupta]

Please, please Guys & Girls read this before you cast your vote:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N_S5dKrMVY


ACHTUNG! I take no responsibility if after seeing this you decide to vote
for neither.

Regards.
Bipin.

"Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control
people." - Henry Kissinger, Ph.D.

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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Ken Waller]

Ok Bill, I'll take your word for it that she's not a liar.

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From: "Bill" 

Subject: Re: OT: BREXIT !



On 6/27/2016 6:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Hope trumps all.


But a liars pantsuit will eventually catch on fire.

Besides WHAT difference does it make ?


You should check politifact before you make yourself look like you don't 
know the facts.




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- Original Message - From: "Bill" 
Subject: Re: OT: BREXIT !



On 6/27/2016 5:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Should I still be hopeful?


Hope trumps all.


J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Bill  wrote:


On 6/27/2016 1:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Well, I hope I'm not blamed for whomever is put in power next
November!


Choose wisely.



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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[P.J. Alling]

Concrete, the Romans invented concrete.  For good or for ill.

On 6/27/2016 12:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Romans.  Plumbing and sewers.  Bob S.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

Bill wrote:


On 6/27/2016 12:48 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

We all tried our best, didn't we?

We tried, not sure if we succeeded. Those damned Romans really tried to
bugger things.

What have the Romans ever done for us?

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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[P.J. Alling]

I wouldn't bet that she's the smarter one.

Both have played the system, and broken it to their advantage. Sadly we 
have the two most awful rules of politics embodied in two awful people.


The rich become powerful, and it's converse the powerful become rich.

Hillery's major accomplishment is she married Bill.

Trump has two accomplishments, he was born to his mother and outlived 
his father.



The results will be distasteful, if not disastrous, either way.

On 6/27/2016 8:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

There is no absolute truth, Bill, and Ken is entitled to his position. Hillary 
is far from an ideal presidential candidate, although I personally prefer her 
sleaziness to the recklessness of Trump. But by a narrow margin. I’ll probably 
hold my nose and vote for her. She is smarter than Trump, In my opinion. 
Poliifact is not a source of truth. It’s deeply biased. Facts are elusive.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Bill  wrote:
On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:16 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 6/27/2016 6:09 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Hope trumps all.

But a liars pantsuit will eventually catch on fire.

Besides WHAT difference does it make ?

You should check politifact before you make yourself look like you don't know 
the facts.


Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: OT: BREXIT !



On 6/27/2016 5:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Should I still be hopeful?

Hope trumps all.

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Bill  wrote:


On 6/27/2016 1:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Well, I hope I'm not blamed for whomever is put in power next
November!

Choose wisely.




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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[P.J. Alling]

On 6/27/2016 7:35 PM, Bill wrote:

On 6/27/2016 1:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Well, I hope I'm not blamed for whomever is put in power next November!



Choose wisely.




You mean between the thief and the braggart?

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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Bill  wrote:

> Anyway, one of the agreed upon tenets of this list is that we don't talk
> politics, carry on.


You certainly didn't let that stand in your way.

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Re: PESO hoofing it

[David J Brooks]

Excellent job, and great detail. I loved shooting thoe horses it was
the 12 hour days that got to me.;-)

Dave

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Re: OT: BREXIT !

[Bill]

On 6/27/2016 6:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

There is no absolute truth, Bill, and Ken is entitled to his
position.


He's entitled to his position, but nnot to make up his own facts.
Hillary is far from an ideal presidential candidate,

although I personally prefer her sleaziness to the recklessness of
Trump.
You don't have an ideal candidate in the race this time, but then, you 
never have.

 But by a narrow margin. I’ll probably hold my nose and vote

for her. She is smarter than Trump, In my opinion. Poliifact is not a
source of truth. It’s deeply biased. Facts are elusive.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans


Peter Roff has ha very right wing conservative bias, is a former 
columnist on Faux News (the mouthpiece of the Teaparty), and among other 
things was the political director for GOPAC.


Your source is an opinion piece, and is hardly free of bias taint.

My opinion is that politifacts isn't especially biased, their is just 
way more crap being spewed by the now dangerously right wing Republican 
party.


Anyway, one of the agreed upon tenets of this list is that we don't talk 
politics, carry on.




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Re: PESO - Goat's Beard Seed head

[Jack Davis]

Dramatic, striking image,  Gonz!
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:24 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> 
> Gorgeous.  I love pics of plants like this.  I took a similar one of a
> dandelion with an iPhone and a magnifying glass which I thought came
> out pretty nice.  Here:
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BFFIdrIuSFG/?taken-by=rgonzomatic=en
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> Very nice!
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 11:09 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Ken!
>>> 
 On 6/27/2016 4:49 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
 Simply exquisite Mark !
 My kind of image.
 
 
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Re: PESO: Nine-spotted moth

[Toine]

Thanks!

On 27 June 2016 at 13:28, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Really well composed, sharp image
> With beautiful markings,  Toine!
> J
>
>
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>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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>> Very interesting moth, nicely portrayed.
>>
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>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Toine  wrote:
>>>
>>> A day active moth. It used to be as rare as hen's teeth and now it's
>>> everywhere.
>>> Dutch name translates as milk drop.
>>>
>>> http://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/content/melkdrupje/
>>> Or 500px if my site is off-line: https://500px.com/photo/160406255
>>>
>>> Q7 and 06 lens with raynox 150. Total weight 350g :)
>>>
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