Re: PESO - Three

[Marco Alpert]

Thanks, Larry. Much appreciated. 

- Marco


> On Sep 25, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Marco Alpert wrote:
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso18.html
>> 
>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
> 
> Very nice, you are very good at hinting at a story with your photos.
> 
>> 
>> -Marco
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Re: Windows 10 Anniversary and DNG files

[Bill]

On 9/25/2016 6:27 PM, John Coyle wrote:

Interesting - my W10 desktop, having had the free upgrade and all updates 
since, does not display a
thumbnail for the only new DNG file I have, from the K5II.  W10.2, just 
installed on an old laptop
with an SSD upgrade, does.


There is a codec available from Adobe that will make DNGs viewable as 
thumbnails. It's slow as a dead beagle though.


John in Brisbane



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After this week's anniversary update of my Windows 10 installation I now 
discover that DNG files are
thumbnailed in the Windows Explorer and can also be viewed by Windows Photo 
Gallery.
This is much easier than having first to open Lightroom or FS viewer.
Is this what they call groundbreaking technical progress or did I miss 
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Re: PESO 2016 - 179, 180, 185, 188 - GDG

[Alan C]

Very smart. A black car hey! Hard to believe it's 10 years old.

Alan C

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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:50 PM
To: PDML List ; PAW Picture-A-Week project ; SeePhoto Talk ; BAPhotoShooters 
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Subject: PESO 2016 - 179, 180, 185, 188 - GDG

Hi!

I haven't posted many photos in the past two weeks. Part of the reason is 
that I've had a lot going on, not least of which was that my car was 
rear-ended and a total loss. It's been replaced with a six years newer model 
of the same thing.


The light was nice this morning, so I pulled out the camera and put the new 
car into the church parking lot for some beauty snaps right about dawn.


 https://flic.kr/p/LCCTiz
 https://flic.kr/p/LCCSZD
 https://flic.kr/p/MwVoHA
 https://flic.kr/p/LCCQn4

A larger gallery of ten images is located on Flickr: 
https://flic.kr/s/aHskHyUUuv


enjoy!
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Re: PESO - Three

[Larry Colen]

Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso18.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.


Very nice, you are very good at hinting at a story with your photos.



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Re: Ceci n'est pas une pipe

[Larry Colen]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


Oh dear - I posted too quickly  didn't see the spider... :-(



Where is the spider?  I don't see it.


Starts in this frame, on the left at the end of the spigot
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/29618501940/in/album-72157673135191102/

Continues through this frame
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/29618516880/in/album-72157673135191102/



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San Diego

[Rick Womer]

It appears that I will be in San Diego this Friday without daytime obligations.

If any PDMLers there would like to go shooting and perhaps ingest lunch and a 
beer, it would be a pleasure.

In any case suggestions concerning shooting venues, lunch, and beer would be 
welcome. I won't have a car, but I will have Uber.

Cheers,

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OT be careful installing OSX Sierra, there may be some issues with synchronizing desktops

[Larry Colen]

I ran across this article:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/maybe-be-careful-with-osx-sierra

The short form is that if you have multiple desktop devices and try to 
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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

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On Mon, Sep 26, 2016, at 09:44 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:54 PM, John  wrote:
> > How many online accounts do you have that require a password?
> >
> > If you create a strong password for each of them, how do you keep track
> > of them & remember what they are?


>  I have a book with each site and password Its a big book



I use an encrypted text file - actually two encrypted text files. The
first lists usernames and/or email addresses and has references to line
numbers in the second where the passwords are listed. This way I only
need to remember the two (different) passwords that decrypt the text
files.  In practice, I can usually remember important passwords so I
rarely need to resort to the text files.


Cheers

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> Dave
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> > On 9/25/2016 11:26 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
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> >> So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-)
> >>
> >> Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts
> >> :
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> >>> John wrote:
> >>>
>  Saw the news story a few minutes ago.
> 
>  Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
>  didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
>  my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
>  only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
>  down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably
> >>>
> >>> don't
> 
>  need it for that.
> 
>  Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
> >>> Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
> >>> immediately.
> >>>
> >>
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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

[Mark Roberts]

Bill wrote:

>There are a lot of times where it really doesn't much matter if one has 
>the same password across multiple sites. Photograph chatrooms such as 
>dpreview and pentax forums are two such examples. Who the hell cares if 
>they get hacked on those sites?

Yep. That works as long as you don't use the same or similar passwords
on important sites. Also, when they ask for, say, your mother's maiden
name, give them a unique word that *isn't* your mother's maiden name
(just keep track of what you tell each site). The same goes for
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RE: Windows 10 Anniversary and DNG files

[John Coyle]

Interesting - my W10 desktop, having had the free upgrade and all updates 
since, does not display a
thumbnail for the only new DNG file I have, from the K5II.  W10.2, just 
installed on an old laptop
with an SSD upgrade, does.

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After this week's anniversary update of my Windows 10 installation I now 
discover that DNG files are
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Gallery.
This is much easier than having first to open Lightroom or FS viewer.
Is this what they call groundbreaking technical progress or did I miss 
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Re: PESO 2016 - 179, 180, 185, 188 - GDG

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> On Sep 25, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>> On 25/9/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> The new one is a very different driving experience from the old one.
>>> That little six makes a glorious high-rpm ripping sound as it winds up.
>> 
>> And here's me thinking you drove Prius with solar panels glued to the
>> roof with a windmill on  trunk ;-)
> 

> He did, once upon a time.
> That's what he had when he drove thru Chicago.

Yup. I sold the Prius when I got over my mid-life crisis in 2012. Went back to 
what I'd always had ... a proper two-seat sports car. ;-)

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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:54 PM, John  wrote:
> How many online accounts do you have that require a password?
>
> If you create a strong password for each of them, how do you keep track
> of them & remember what they are?

 I have a book with each site and password Its a big book

Dave
>
> On 9/25/2016 11:26 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
>>
>> So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-)
>>
>> Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts
>> :
>>>
>>> John wrote:
>>>
 Saw the news story a few minutes ago.

 Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
 didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
 my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
 only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
 down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably
>>>
>>> don't

 need it for that.

 Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
>>> Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
>>> immediately.
>>>
>>
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Re: PESO 2016 - 179, 180, 185, 188 - GDG

[Bob Sullivan]

He did, once upon a time.
That's what he had when he drove thru Chicago.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 25/9/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>The new one is a very different driving experience from the old one.
>>That little six makes a glorious high-rpm ripping sound as it winds up.
>
> And here's me thinking you drove Prius with solar panels glued to the
> roof with a windmill on  trunk ;-)
>
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PESO - Three

[Marco Alpert]

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso18.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: PESO 2016 - 179, 180, 185, 188 - GDG

[Steve Cottrell]

On 25/9/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The new one is a very different driving experience from the old one.
>That little six makes a glorious high-rpm ripping sound as it winds up. 

And here's me thinking you drove Prius with solar panels glued to the
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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

[Mark C]

On 9/25/2016 3:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


You'd be amazed how many people don't. (Wait. No, you wouldn't.)

You'd also be amazed how many people use the same password on multiple
sites. (No, you wouldn't be amazed at that either.)
  


IMO - one of the dangers of the Yahoo hack is that the hackers got the 
answers to users' "secret questions" for password reset. You know, first 
pet's name, favorite movie, name of the street you grew up on,  etc...  
I have no idea how useful that data would be but it sounds like hackers 
are building a database on everyone... My high school teachers used to 
warn about the "permanent record that will follow you for the rest of 
your life" - and it turns out they were right!


Mark


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Re: Demand letter from Getty for use of image

[P.J. Alling]

Well, yes, except it's still fraud to threaten someone with a copyright 
infringement action, when a you don't own the copyright, and don't 
actually represent the owner of the copyright, and even worse when said 
image is in the public domain and you cannot own the copyright.  Which 
Getty has been caught doing.  Which was what John and I were 
discussing.  For the earlier part of the thread your statement is indeed 
correct, unless Getty is claiming copyright on something they don't own. 
You should have replied to an earlier post to avoid confusion.


On 9/25/2016 4:43 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but: In short, your client is screwed
for using an image they simply took off of the internet. As any lawyer (and
particularly a lawyer who is a photographer) knows, U.S. Copyright exists
at the moment of image creation. Getty uses sophisticated software to
search for images being used. They have more resources than your client to
keep this going and make their life hell. The truth is that companies like
Getty make far more money off of infringement than they do from legal
licensing, these days. The only thing (probably) left to negotiate is the
AMOUNT of the infringement. If the image was NOT actually registered with
the U.S. Copyright office, your liability is less. If your client (or
whoever they got the image from) cropped OFF a watermark or copyright area,
their liability under law is far higher. The only thing you are doing now
is trying to negotiate for the lowest possible settlement without going to
court (which would not be in your client's best interests because they
would LOSE). They are probably looking at 4 figures.



On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1:19 PM, John  wrote:


I agree.


On 9/23/2016 11:25 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:


I believe that goes beyond copyright infringement, that's actual fraud.

On 9/23/2016 11:21 PM, John wrote:


Getty has a bad habit of claiming public domain images and demanding
payment for their use.

On 9/23/2016 2:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Travel agent client maintains a website and newsletter featuring
vacation
travel venues.  Client makes every effort to use only public domain
images.
Client received a letter from Getty Images, claiming a particular image
used by client was a rights managed image controlled by Getty.

The image in question was no longer on the website,, but still
appeared on
a FaceBook account.  Client immediately removed it.

The Getty letter states that removal of the image will not resolve the
matter, and demands a monetary settlement for past usage.

Has anyone handled this sort of claim, with Getty or another stock
agency?
Will they accepts an apology and an agreement to take reasonable
steps to
prevent future inadvertent infringement in lieu of payment?

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Re: October PUG Countdown

[Brian Walters]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016, at 01:58 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> who is the other one? You? :-)


No - not yet.  Still thinking



Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
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> 
> Glad I know what's up
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 9/25/2016 6:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > G'day, all
> >
> > Two submissions so far.
> >
> > Theme: Up
> >
> > Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >
> > Submission Guidelines here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> >
> > Nom. closing date 30 September.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Ceci n'est pas une pipe

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On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Oh dear - I posted too quickly  didn't see the spider... :-(


Where is the spider?  I don't see it.

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Re: Demand letter from Getty for use of image

[Darren Addy]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but: In short, your client is screwed
for using an image they simply took off of the internet. As any lawyer (and
particularly a lawyer who is a photographer) knows, U.S. Copyright exists
at the moment of image creation. Getty uses sophisticated software to
search for images being used. They have more resources than your client to
keep this going and make their life hell. The truth is that companies like
Getty make far more money off of infringement than they do from legal
licensing, these days. The only thing (probably) left to negotiate is the
AMOUNT of the infringement. If the image was NOT actually registered with
the U.S. Copyright office, your liability is less. If your client (or
whoever they got the image from) cropped OFF a watermark or copyright area,
their liability under law is far higher. The only thing you are doing now
is trying to negotiate for the lowest possible settlement without going to
court (which would not be in your client's best interests because they
would LOSE). They are probably looking at 4 figures.



On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1:19 PM, John  wrote:

> I agree.
>
>
> On 9/23/2016 11:25 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>
>> I believe that goes beyond copyright infringement, that's actual fraud.
>>
>> On 9/23/2016 11:21 PM, John wrote:
>>
>>> Getty has a bad habit of claiming public domain images and demanding
>>> payment for their use.
>>>
>>> On 9/23/2016 2:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>>
 Travel agent client maintains a website and newsletter featuring
 vacation
 travel venues.  Client makes every effort to use only public domain
 images.
 Client received a letter from Getty Images, claiming a particular image
 used by client was a rights managed image controlled by Getty.

 The image in question was no longer on the website,, but still
 appeared on
 a FaceBook account.  Client immediately removed it.

 The Getty letter states that removal of the image will not resolve the
 matter, and demands a monetary settlement for past usage.

 Has anyone handled this sort of claim, with Getty or another stock
 agency?
 Will they accepts an apology and an agreement to take reasonable
 steps to
 prevent future inadvertent infringement in lieu of payment?

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


>>>
>>
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Re: October PUG Countdown

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

> Dan, you mean "UPloaded"? ;-)


Well Played.

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Re: October PUG Countdown

[Ken Waller]

I'd be left down if you didn't.


-Original Message-
>From: ann sanfedele 
>Subject: Re: October PUG Countdown
>
>who is the other one? You? :-)
>
>Glad I know what's up
>
>ann
>
>
>On 9/25/2016 6:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
>> G'day, all
>>
>> Two submissions so far.
>>
>> Theme: Up
>>
>> Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>
>> Submission Guidelines here:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
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>> Nom. closing date 30 September.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
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>>
>> ++
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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

[Jostein Øksne]

Lol. 
I am certainly not going to explain my scheme. Feel free to share yours.
Jostein 

Den 25. september 2016 20.54.45 CEST, skrev John :
>How many online accounts do you have that require a password?
>
>If you create a strong password for each of them, how do you keep track
>of them & remember what they are?
>
>On 9/25/2016 11:26 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
>> So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-)
>>
>> Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts
>:
>>> John wrote:
>>>
 Saw the news story a few minutes ago.

 Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but
>Yahoo
 didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any
>of
 my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password.
>The
 only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner
>went
 down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably
>>> don't
 need it for that.

 Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.
>>>
>>> I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo
>IS
>>> Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
>>> immediately.
>>>
>>

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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

[Bill]

On 9/25/2016 1:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Jostein Øksne wrote:


Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts 
:

John wrote:


Saw the news story a few minutes ago.

Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably

don't

need it for that.

Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.


I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
immediately.


So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-)


You'd be amazed how many people don't. (Wait. No, you wouldn't.)

You'd also be amazed how many people use the same password on multiple
sites. (No, you wouldn't be amazed at that either.)




There are a lot of times where it really doesn't much matter if one has 
the same password across multiple sites. Photograph chatrooms such as 
dpreview and pentax forums are two such examples. Who the hell cares if 
they get hacked on those sites?


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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

[Larry Colen]

John wrote:

How many online accounts do you have that require a password?

If you create a strong password for each of them, how do you keep track
of them & remember what they are?


One trick that a lot of people do is to use a two part password.  Have 
one strong password that you can remember, for example @vo6022 then have 
something based on the domain, maybe the first letters of the domain and 
extension with a character between them, pdml.net could become p*n


So, your password for pdml.net would be @vo6022p*n and your password for 
wellsfargo would be @vo6022w*c


Someone who gets your password for multiple sites would be able to 
figure it out, but if someone gets your password on yahoo, they wouldn't 
then be successful if their script tried the same account and password 
on google.


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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

[Mark Roberts]

Jostein Øksne wrote:

>Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts 
>:
>>John wrote:
>>
>>>Saw the news story a few minutes ago.
>>>
>>>Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
>>>didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
>>>my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
>>>only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
>>>down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably
>>don't
>>>need it for that.
>>>
>>>Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.
>>
>>I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
>>Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
>>immediately.
>> 
>So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-) 

You'd be amazed how many people don't. (Wait. No, you wouldn't.)

You'd also be amazed how many people use the same password on multiple
sites. (No, you wouldn't be amazed at that either.)
 
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Re: October PUG Countdown

[John]

Still trying to awaken my muse.

On 9/25/2016 6:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day, all

Two submissions so far.

Theme: Up

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

[John]

How many online accounts do you have that require a password?

If you create a strong password for each of them, how do you keep track
of them & remember what they are?

On 9/25/2016 11:26 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-)

Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts 
:

John wrote:


Saw the news story a few minutes ago.

Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably

don't

need it for that.

Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.


I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
immediately.





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Re: Ceci n'est pas une pipe

[Larry Colen]

Thanks Dan, Paul and Ann,

ann sanfedele wrote:

Oh dear - I posted too quickly didn't see the spider... :-(


I'm also not entirely sure that it's a spider.




ann


On 9/25/2016 8:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:47 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


Nope, not a pipe:


Sharp, interesting and dramatic composition.

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Re: Windows 10 Anniversary and DNG files

[John]

All the other shit Windoze10 broke is a better argument for NEVER 
adopting it.


On 9/25/2016 9:53 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

I've been viewing DNG thumbnails using Windows 7 and Windows XP for
years.  They have also visible in Windows Photo view in Explorer.  They
were also visible in Windows 2000, (not talking about WinME), but that
required downloading a third party codec.  The fact that it took this
long to support a common format, that was previously supported, is a
great argument to not be an early adopter.

On 9/25/2016 4:06 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

After this week's anniversary update of my Windows 10 installation I
now discover that DNG files are thumbnailed in the Windows Explorer
and can also be viewed by Windows Photo Gallery.
This is much easier than having first to open Lightroom or FS viewer.
Is this what they call groundbreaking technical progress or did I miss
something?

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Re: PESO 2016 - 179, 180, 185, 188 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thanks for the comments! 

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
>> On 25/9/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> https://flic.kr/p/LCCTiz
> 
> Like that.
> Nice car and nice pic. Hope you're okay from the collision?
> Never pleasant. Hopefully it wasn't a Google car ;-)

Thanks again! 

No one was hurt, thankfully ... Worst I got was a little skin lost on my shin 
from the antisubmarine bumper under the driver's dash. It's almost healed 
completely now. The other driver acknowledged it was entirely her fault on the 
spot, and State Farm Insurance has issued a fair compensation for the wreck. 

The new one is a very different driving experience from the old one. That 
little six makes a glorious high-rpm ripping sound as it winds up. 

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Re: Windows 10 Anniversary and DNG files

[John]

Windows7 Explorer displays DNG files as thumbnails. IIRC, WindowsXP 
could too.


On 9/25/2016 4:06 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

After this week's anniversary update of my Windows 10 installation I now
discover that DNG files are thumbnailed in the Windows Explorer and can
also be viewed by Windows Photo Gallery.
This is much easier than having first to open Lightroom or FS viewer.
Is this what they call groundbreaking technical progress or did I miss
something?

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Re: Archeologist

[John]

On 9/24/2016 5:09 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

On 24 Sep 2016, at 21:46, Mark Roberts  wrote:


mike wilson wrote:


On 24 September 2016 at 14:46 Bob W-PDML  wrote:


Nice look of concentration on his face; probably the eyes of his understanding
being enlightened.

Here in Greenwich, whenever the tides goes out it reveals a fresh crop of
archaeologists on the foreshore. They must somehow get washed downstream.


They're looking for Archaeopteryxes on the archipelagos.


Perhaps what they're really doing is making their way *upstream*. You
know, to spawn.




At Greenwich, they rest. Digging into the mud of the foreshore, the 
archeologists exchange with each other the remnants of a medieval dunghill in a 
pre-mating gifting ritual that itself stretches back through the generations. 
They cannot know what dangers lie ahead as one by one they slip into the rising 
tide to make their way slowly, cautiously up stream towards Oxford, where they 
will end their lives in a squalid, but glorious once-in-a-lifetime orgiastic 
frenzy, and the eternal circle of life, begins, anew.
<\attenborough>

Cue theme from Morse.

Cut to closing credits - a grubby, half-eaten flat cap floats downstream in the 
gloaming.



Precious! Best one yet.

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Re: October PUG Countdown

[Igor PDML-StR]

Dan, you mean "UPloaded"? ;-)

Cheers!


Daniel J. Matyola Sun, 25 Sep 2016 10:44:52 -0700 wrote:

I just submitted mine.

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On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:58 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


who is the other one? You? :-)

Glad I know what's up

ann


On 9/25/2016 6:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:


G'day, all

Two submissions so far.

Theme: Up

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

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Re: Enablement!

[John]

On 9/24/2016 12:16 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On September 23, 2016 8:33:02 PM PDT, John  wrote:

On 9/23/2016 3:53 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



John Coyle wrote:

Just had delivered a used K5II, in LN condition from an Australian
seller, ordered yesterday!
Looking forward to what should be a noticeable leap in quality from

my

*ist-D, which has given great
service and is still a capable camera, within its limitations, of
course. It will be interesting to
see if I take better photos as a result...


You'll be amazed at how clear and sharp crappy pictures can be.



And Larry's the guy who would know.   8-)


I was speaking from experience



Yep. I thought so too.  8-)

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Re: Demand letter from Getty for use of image

[John]

I agree.

On 9/23/2016 11:25 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

I believe that goes beyond copyright infringement, that's actual fraud.

On 9/23/2016 11:21 PM, John wrote:

Getty has a bad habit of claiming public domain images and demanding
payment for their use.

On 9/23/2016 2:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Travel agent client maintains a website and newsletter featuring
vacation
travel venues.  Client makes every effort to use only public domain
images.
Client received a letter from Getty Images, claiming a particular image
used by client was a rights managed image controlled by Getty.

The image in question was no longer on the website,, but still
appeared on
a FaceBook account.  Client immediately removed it.

The Getty letter states that removal of the image will not resolve the
matter, and demands a monetary settlement for past usage.

Has anyone handled this sort of claim, with Getty or another stock
agency?
Will they accepts an apology and an agreement to take reasonable
steps to
prevent future inadvertent infringement in lieu of payment?

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Re: October PUG Countdown

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I just submitted mine.

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On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:58 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> who is the other one? You? :-)
>
> Glad I know what's up
>
> ann
>
>
> On 9/25/2016 6:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
>
>> G'day, all
>>
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>>
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>> Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
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>> Nom. closing date 30 September.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
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Re: PESO 2016 - 179, 180, 185, 188 - GDG

[Steve Cottrell]

On 25/9/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>  https://flic.kr/p/LCCTiz

Like that.

Nice car and nice pic. Hope you're okay from the collision?

Never pleasant. Hopefully it wasn't a Google car ;-)

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Re: PESO 2016 - 179, 180, 185, 188 - GDG

[Jack Davis]

Capitalist!! :-)
Very photogenic!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 9:50 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Hi! 
> 
> I haven't posted many photos in the past two weeks. Part of the reason is 
> that I've had a lot going on, not least of which was that my car was 
> rear-ended and a total loss. It's been replaced with a six years newer model 
> of the same thing. 
> 
> The light was nice this morning, so I pulled out the camera and put the new 
> car into the church parking lot for some beauty snaps right about dawn.
> 
>  https://flic.kr/p/LCCTiz
>  https://flic.kr/p/LCCSZD
>  https://flic.kr/p/MwVoHA
>  https://flic.kr/p/LCCQn4
> 
> A larger gallery of ten images is located on Flickr: 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskHyUUuv
> 
> enjoy! 
> G
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PESO 2016 - 179, 180, 185, 188 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hi! 

I haven't posted many photos in the past two weeks. Part of the reason is that 
I've had a lot going on, not least of which was that my car was rear-ended and 
a total loss. It's been replaced with a six years newer model of the same 
thing. 

The light was nice this morning, so I pulled out the camera and put the new car 
into the church parking lot for some beauty snaps right about dawn.

  https://flic.kr/p/LCCTiz
  https://flic.kr/p/LCCSZD
  https://flic.kr/p/MwVoHA
  https://flic.kr/p/LCCQn4

A larger gallery of ten images is located on Flickr: 
https://flic.kr/s/aHskHyUUuv

enjoy! 
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Re: Ceci n'est pas une pipe

[ann sanfedele]

Oh dear - I posted too quickly  didn't see the spider... :-(

ann


On 9/25/2016 8:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:47 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


Nope, not a pipe:


Sharp, interesting and dramatic composition.

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Re: Ceci n'est pas une pipe

[ann sanfedele]

Very nice - are you going to be a Butterfly father soon?

ann


On 9/25/2016 8:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:47 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


Nope, not a pipe:


Sharp, interesting and dramatic composition.

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Re: October PUG Countdown

[ann sanfedele]

who is the other one? You? :-)

Glad I know what's up

ann


On 9/25/2016 6:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day, all

Two submissions so far.

Theme: Up

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

[Jostein Øksne]

So... Two years without changing passwords? Hmmm... ;-) 

Den 25. september 2016 15.33.48 CEST, skrev Mark Roberts 
:
>John wrote:
>
>>Saw the news story a few minutes ago.
>>
>>Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
>>didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
>>my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
>>only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
>>down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably
>don't
>>need it for that.
>>
>>Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.
>
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>Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
>immediately.
> 

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Re: Windows 10 Anniversary and DNG files

[P.J. Alling]

I've been viewing DNG thumbnails using Windows 7 and Windows XP for 
years.  They have also visible in Windows Photo view in Explorer.  They 
were also visible in Windows 2000, (not talking about WinME), but that 
required downloading a third party codec.  The fact that it took this 
long to support a common format, that was previously supported, is a 
great argument to not be an early adopter.


On 9/25/2016 4:06 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
After this week's anniversary update of my Windows 10 installation I 
now discover that DNG files are thumbnailed in the Windows Explorer 
and can also be viewed by Windows Photo Gallery.

This is much easier than having first to open Lightroom or FS viewer.
Is this what they call groundbreaking technical progress or did I miss 
something?


Henk




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Re: Archeologist

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Bob, for your comments.


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On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> Nice look of concentration on his face; probably the eyes of his
> understanding being enlightened.
>
> Here in Greenwich, whenever the tides goes out it reveals a fresh crop of
> archaeologists on the foreshore. They must somehow get washed downstream.
>
> B
>
> > On 24 Sep 2016, at 13:36, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> >
> > An Archeologist at work at Ephesus in Turkey:
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18288564=lg
> > K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
> > Comments are invited
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: OT: Yahoo got hacked

[Mark Roberts]

John wrote:

>Saw the news story a few minutes ago.
>
>Apparently it happened in 2014, "state sponsored hackers", but Yahoo
>didn't find it until August this year. I can't tell if they got any of
>my information or not, but I went ahead and changed my password. The
>only thing I used it for was a backup of PDML in case Roadrunner went
>down again. And now that I'm using Earthlink for email, I probably don't
>need it for that.
>
>Anyway, I went ahead and changed my password.

I'm a little late on this but it's probably worth mentioning: Yahoo IS
Flickr! If you have a Flickr account you should change its password
immediately.
 
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Re: Ceci n'est pas une pipe

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:47 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> Nope, not a pipe:


Sharp, interesting and dramatic composition.

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Re: Ceci n'est pas une pipe

[Paul Stenquist]

Nicely lit. Well done.

Paul via phone

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 4:47 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Nope, not a pipe:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/29285639534/in/album-72157673135191102/
> 
> 
> Caterpillar and faucet
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/29912922345/in/album-72157673135191102/
> 
> And, for those that want the whole set
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673135191102/
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Re: Peso-Forgotten Barn

[Jack Davis]

Guess I'm not fully awake, Alan
(It's 4:00 AM), but this isn't a 
video. :-)
J

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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Watch it.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jack Davis
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 1:24 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Peso-Forgotten Barn
> 
> Thanks much, Paul!
> No, pass road was barricaded and
> being patrolled. I passed a number of
> "ROAD CLOSED" signs on my way
> up West Butte road, but I was able
> to take Pass road west and pick up
> West Butte again to this barn.
> 
> J
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Paul  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice.  I have a soft spot for old barns.
>> 
>> Did you have to go past the site of the U-2 crash?
>> 
>> -p
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/24/2016 12:40 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>> 
>>> This AM on the "other" side of the Buttes.
>>> 
>>> Comments welcome!
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1104
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October PUG Countdown

[Brian Walters]

G'day, all

Two submissions so far.

Theme: Up

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

Nom. closing date 30 September.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Anyone seen Doug Brewer lately?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/9/16, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Doug does not halve a stripped shirt

Except when he needs rags

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Ceci n'est pas une pipe

[Larry Colen]

Nope, not a pipe:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/29285639534/in/album-72157673135191102/


Caterpillar and faucet
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/29912922345/in/album-72157673135191102/

And, for those that want the whole set
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673135191102/

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Windows 10 Anniversary and DNG files

[Henk Terhell]

After this week's anniversary update of my Windows 10 installation I now 
discover that DNG files are thumbnailed in the Windows Explorer and can 
also be viewed by Windows Photo Gallery.

This is much easier than having first to open Lightroom or FS viewer.
Is this what they call groundbreaking technical progress or did I miss 
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Henk

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