Re: GESO hummingbird

[Larry Colen]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

On my monitor Oregon Coast looks good, Vultures lacks midrange contrast, 
slightly muddy overall. No Smoking Propane is so high contrast it works, but 
the blacks aren’t quite black, and the whites aren’t quite white. Jane looks 
good.


Thanks, I tried adjusting the hummingbirds, are they better?

The vultures are tough, back lit dark birds, a better photographer than 
I might be able to process them so they aren't muddy.




On Mar 21, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Paul Stenquist wrote:

I agree with Gonz. They lack contrast. The black point and white point are both 
way off. A levels adjustment will make them much better. Even when the monitor 
sucks, you can trust the histogram to lead you to the promised land! :-)

Paul


Thanks.  For reference, what about other photos that I've posted this week?  It 
would be nice to know which monitor more closely matches with reality, or if 
not reality, you folks.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/

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Re: PESO: Ready for Spring

[Ken Waller]

Looks like a lot of snow for this time of the year in N.J.


-Original Message-
>From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>Subject: PESO: Ready for Spring
>
>As the first day of spring was about to break, our pool bravely broke
>through the March snow.
>
>https://www.photo.net/photo/18365865/Pool-in-snow
>k-5 IIs, smc F Fisheye 17-28 mm F 3.5-4.5
>Comments are invited.
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Re: Fish Eagle

[John Sessoms]

Unfortunately for me, it's an all too usual POV.

On 3/21/2017 7:59 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Not the usual POV - the southbound end of a northbound bird.

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- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
Subject: Fish Eagle





A very quiet day and by the looks of the sky and the weather forecast
on my phone,
a rain storm is almost upon us.
Good!
Something different for me, a Fish Eagle or Osprey, was spotted in a
tree the last
time I went shooting at the Colusa Ntl Wildlife Refuge. Very unusual
for this area.
So I'm told.
It was in the few barren top limbs of a good size tree. A complete, solid
silhouette.
Shot in Raw and pulled from it's black cloak primarily by the
converter's Fill Light
slider.

C? Thanks!

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PESO: Spring Daffodils

[Daniel J. Matyola]

My daffodils were about to spring into bloom when a severe winter storm hit
our area.  They are now trying to bounce back:

https://www.photo.net/photo/18365863/Daffodils-peaking-through-snow
k-5 IIs, smc F Fisheye 17-28 mm F 3.5-4.5
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PESO: Ready for Spring

[Daniel J. Matyola]

As the first day of spring was about to break, our pool bravely broke
through the March snow.

https://www.photo.net/photo/18365865/Pool-in-snow
k-5 IIs, smc F Fisheye 17-28 mm F 3.5-4.5
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Re: PDML Photo Annual update (21 March)

[Steve Cottrell]

On 21/3/17, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Of course, there's always the issue of getting Doug to write the
>foreword...

Goosing in order.



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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Yes, I saw that David.

I forgot exactly how and why I sent those images to Dario.  I think he
posted something here looking for images from the 1960s and early 1970s
taken with Spotties.

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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:01 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

> two of mine at the bottom. Totaly forgot about this
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> > I think I know the one I will post, but I am still considering.  
> >
> > While reviewing some of my older images, I came across this piece of
> > ancient history from Dario Bonazza, the keeper of the AOHC flame, marking
> > the first 40 years since the introduction of the Spotmatic:
> >
> > http://www.aohc.it/_old/picte.html
> >
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> G'day, all
> >>
> >> A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
> >> from past list members.
> >>
> >> Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
> >>
> >> Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
> >>
> >> Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
> >> submission form and Submission Guidelines:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
> >>
> >> Nom. closing date 31 March.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> ++
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Re: PDML Photo Annual update (21 March)

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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
>
> Of course, there's always the issue of getting Doug to write the
> foreword...

Here's a forward thinking thought, perhaps as a backup plan.

Compile an email list of all the contributors. Send an opening line to
the first one in the list with the request to add a second line after
it. Then send that second line with the same instructions to the next
address in the list, and repeat for all of them in order.

Volia! The foreword.

Just threatening Doug with this suggestion should elicit some sort of
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Re: PDML Photo Annual update (21 March)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Great news, Mark!

We are all anxiously waiting for the finished product, confident that it
will be at least as good as the past editions.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Mark Roberts 
wrote:

> After a couple of phone calls and a couple of emails we've made the
> selections for photos that will be in this year's book. A small
> handful may change when we get to pairing them up together in spreads,
> but that's not very likely.
>
> I've got the theme chosen and the overwhelming majority of the design
> work done, somewhat to my surprise. After weeks of panicked work while
> feeling myself to be falling hopelessly behind schedule I suddenly
> find myself all caught up. Don't worry — my ability to fall behind yet
> again will doubtless reassert itself shortly.
>
> For now, I just have to pair up the images as best I can and start
> building the spreads in InDesign. Mostly grunt work.
>
> Of course, there's always the issue of getting Doug to write the
> foreword...
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Re: PESOs More Birds

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Ken

Paul via phone

> On Mar 21, 2017, at 7:52 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Nice crisp images Paul.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
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> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 
> Subject: PESOs More Birds
> 
> 
>> The goldfinches continue to get more color. The sparrows continue to eat 
>> most of my bird seed. All good! All shot with the K-1, D FA 150-450 and DA 
>> 1.4X converter. All 630mm, f8 and 1/320th. Most are ISO 200 or thereabouts. 
>> (Shooting TVA mode, so the ISO varies a bit.)
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18365272/sparrow
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18365270/angry-bird
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18365268/goldfinch-in-march
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18365256/goldfinch-in-march
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[ann sanfedele]

It's really depressing that it won - also ironic that the moon actually 
detracts - he didn't need to insert that to do well


ann

On 3/21/2017 5:07 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Yes it's certainly a misleading image but the only restrictions on
processing in the somewhat lax "rules" for that challenge were "No
watermarks or copyright info on image".

So, strictly speaking, it's probably not cheating.


Cheers

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No comment necessary:
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PDML Photo Annual update (21 March)

[Mark Roberts]

After a couple of phone calls and a couple of emails we've made the
selections for photos that will be in this year's book. A small
handful may change when we get to pairing them up together in spreads,
but that's not very likely.

I've got the theme chosen and the overwhelming majority of the design
work done, somewhat to my surprise. After weeks of panicked work while
feeling myself to be falling hopelessly behind schedule I suddenly
find myself all caught up. Don't worry — my ability to fall behind yet
again will doubtless reassert itself shortly.

For now, I just have to pair up the images as best I can and start
building the spreads in InDesign. Mostly grunt work.

Of course, there's always the issue of getting Doug to write the
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Re: Fish Eagle

[Ken Waller]

Not the usual POV - the southbound end of a northbound bird.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" 

Subject: Fish Eagle





A very quiet day and by the looks of the sky and the weather forecast on 
my phone,

a rain storm is almost upon us.
Good!
Something different for me, a Fish Eagle or Osprey, was spotted in a tree 
the last
time I went shooting at the Colusa Ntl Wildlife Refuge. Very unusual for 
this area.

So I'm told.
It was in the few barren top limbs of a good size tree. A complete, solid
silhouette.
Shot in Raw and pulled from it's black cloak primarily by the converter's 
Fill Light

slider.

C? Thanks!

150-450/K-3

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Re: PeSO's - A Couple of Flowers

[Ken Waller]

Great Mark !

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" 

Subject: PeSO's - A Couple of Flowers



A couple more studio flowers.

From today - Peace Lily:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/peace-lily-1

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/33497554976/in/dateposted-public/

Friday - Red Flower:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/red-flower

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/32684882333/in/dateposted-public/

Both focus stacked K-1 pixel shift shots. The red flower took *a lot* of 
post processing to overcome some stacking related artifacts and I'm still 
on the fence about whether its presentable or not.


Comments welcome.

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Re: Sac. Ntl.

[Ken Waller]

What Dan said.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: Sac. Ntl.



Both quite nice, Jack!


Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:




Sacramento Ntl yesterday.

D FA 150-450/K-3

C? Thanks!

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Re: PESOs More Birds

[Ken Waller]

Nice crisp images Paul.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: PESOs More Birds


The goldfinches continue to get more color. The sparrows continue to eat 
most of my bird seed. All good! All shot with the K-1, D FA 150-450 and DA 
1.4X converter. All 630mm, f8 and 1/320th. Most are ISO 200 or 
thereabouts. (Shooting TVA mode, so the ISO varies a bit.)


https://www.photo.net/photo/18365272/sparrow
https://www.photo.net/photo/18365270/angry-bird
https://www.photo.net/photo/18365268/goldfinch-in-march
https://www.photo.net/photo/18365256/goldfinch-in-march



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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Brian Walters]

Thank you, kind sir (and Chris and Don, too!)


Cheers

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On Wed, Mar 22, 2017, at 05:07 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> Done!
> 
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> > G'day, all
> >
> > A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
> > from past list members.
> >
> > Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
> >
> > Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
> >
> > Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
> > submission form and Submission Guidelines:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
> >
> > Nom. closing date 31 March.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Brian Walters]

Yes it's certainly a misleading image but the only restrictions on
processing in the somewhat lax "rules" for that challenge were "No
watermarks or copyright info on image".

So, strictly speaking, it's probably not cheating.


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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Igor PDML-StR]

John F.:

But the clouds can be from the other side of the Earth... or Moon...
... No, they are from Mars, coming to Moon as a part of the seasons, when 
it becomes to cold on Mars... And then going back to Mars.

[BG]
;-)

 John Francis Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:47:26 -0700 wrote:


Well, the fact that the moon is obscuring some of the clouds is a bit of
a give-away.






John S.:

It would have to be at the right inclination that Stan can easily 
calculate from the data he's already collected. :-)


Igor


John Sessoms Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:25:08 -0700 wrote:

If the photographer had inserted just a sliver of an almost new moon it
would have still been a "winning" image.


On 3/21/2017 2:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Gonz wrote:

Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
sunrise/sunset and clouds...


What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost
directly *behind* a full moon? I am shocked, shocked!




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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[P. J. Alling]

The Moon being in front of the clouds is a dead giveaway before I even 
bothered to pixel peep.



On 3/21/2017 1:23 PM, Gonz wrote:

Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
sunrise/sunset and clouds...


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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[John Sessoms]

If the photographer had inserted just a sliver of an almost new moon it
would have still been a "winning" image.

On 3/21/2017 2:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Gonz wrote:


Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
sunrise/sunset and clouds...


What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Steve Cottrell]

On 21/3/17, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>1. The moon was full at 0505 that morning.
>2. The moon set at 0620 on a bearing of 281.4° as seen from the casual
>observers position on Saltlick road. I.e., basically a bit North of West. 
>3. The sun rose at 0623 that morning, as you might expect, on a bearing
>of 97.3°, a bit South of East.
>
>The photo is shopped. QED.

Don't keep us in suspense Stan. What is the take-off weight of that
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[David J Brooks]

two of mine at the bottom. Totaly forgot about this

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> I think I know the one I will post, but I am still considering.  
>
> While reviewing some of my older images, I came across this piece of
> ancient history from Dario Bonazza, the keeper of the AOHC flame, marking
> the first 40 years since the introduction of the Spotmatic:
>
> http://www.aohc.it/_old/picte.html
>
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Gonz]

Yes, shocking.  lol


On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Mark Roberts
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>
>>Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
>>sunrise/sunset and clouds...
>
> What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:23:20PM -0500, Gonz wrote:
> Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
> sunrise/sunset and clouds...

Well, the fact that the moon is obscuring some of the clouds is a bit of a 
give-away.
(Not to mention the rather obvious dark ring round the moon)


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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Mark Roberts]

Gonz wrote:

>Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
>sunrise/sunset and clouds...

What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Bruce Walker]

Done!

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Stanley Halpin]

Ok ok yes I believed you. But I had to check anyway…

On Oct 12, 2011 when the photo was allegedly taken,
in the Masai Mara where the dastardly deed was done,
in the early morning as implied by the title of the image:

1. The moon was full at 0505 that morning.
2. The moon set at 0620 on a bearing of 281.4° as seen from the casual 
observers position on Saltlick road. I.e., basically a bit North of West. 
3. The sun rose at 0623 that morning, as you might expect, on a bearing of 
97.3°, a bit South of East.

The photo is shopped. QED.

[Data courtesy of The Photographers Ephemeris Web Application]

stan

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Re: Oregon coast snaps

[Larry Colen]

Stanley Halpin wrote:

I flipped through a few of these. I stopped when I got to this one:

20170319-LRC44321-HDR.jpg

No need to see more, that one is enough to verify that you had a good trip. 
Just very very nice.


Thanks Stan. That was sunset on the beach in Waldport



stan


On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

I finally had a chance to sit down and go through my photos of the past week. As I 
mentioned, in addition to C as usual,  I'd appreciate feedback on exposure 
levels.

Floats in Newport Bayside:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/33521733676/in/album-72157678220605824/

Zeke seemed to be having a lot of fun on Yachats beach so I asked his dad if he 
minded me taking photos. Some other folks at the park had some dogs that Zeke 
had fun playing with:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/33562381215/in/album-72157678220605824/

Intersectionality is a beach:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/33433745201/in/album-72157678220605824/

A hole in the water, sans water:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/33521830566/in/album-72157678220605824/

Full set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157678220605824

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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Bruce Walker]

Not a great cutout either. Pretty clear artifacts along the circumference.

I think there's an exposé thread about it going on too.


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> Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
> sunrise/sunset and clouds...
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Re: PESO: Meet Rayna

[Bruce Walker]

Cute!


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Re: GESO hummingbird

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On my monitor Oregon Coast looks good, Vultures lacks midrange contrast, 
slightly muddy overall. No Smoking Propane is so high contrast it works, but 
the blacks aren’t quite black, and the whites aren’t quite white. Jane looks 
good. 
> On Mar 21, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I agree with Gonz. They lack contrast. The black point and white point are 
>> both way off. A levels adjustment will make them much better. Even when the 
>> monitor sucks, you can trust the histogram to lead you to the promised land! 
>> :-)
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
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> Thanks.  For reference, what about other photos that I've posted this week?  
> It would be nice to know which monitor more closely matches with reality, or 
> if not reality, you folks.
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Re: Oregon coast snaps

[Stanley Halpin]

I flipped through a few of these. I stopped when I got to this one:

20170319-LRC44321-HDR.jpg

No need to see more, that one is enough to verify that you had a good trip. 
Just very very nice.

stan

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> I finally had a chance to sit down and go through my photos of the past week. 
> As I mentioned, in addition to C as usual,  I'd appreciate feedback on 
> exposure levels.
> 
> Floats in Newport Bayside:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/33521733676/in/album-72157678220605824/
> 
> Zeke seemed to be having a lot of fun on Yachats beach so I asked his dad if 
> he minded me taking photos. Some other folks at the park had some dogs that 
> Zeke had fun playing with:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/33562381215/in/album-72157678220605824/
> 
> Intersectionality is a beach:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/33433745201/in/album-72157678220605824/
> 
> A hole in the water, sans water:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/33521830566/in/album-72157678220605824/
> 
> Full set:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157678220605824
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Gonz]

Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
sunrise/sunset and clouds...


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Re: GESO hummingbird

[Larry Colen]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

I agree with Gonz. They lack contrast. The black point and white point are both 
way off. A levels adjustment will make them much better. Even when the monitor 
sucks, you can trust the histogram to lead you to the promised land! :-)

Paul



Thanks.  For reference, what about other photos that I've posted this 
week?  It would be nice to know which monitor more closely matches with 
reality, or if not reality, you folks.


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Re: Vulture

[Jack Davis]

Or, " if they only knew that all I ever
wanted was to be petted." (sniff)

J
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> Ann, suggesting the following caption.
> "I'm promised ripe carrion WITH
> maggots IF I can break this limb."
> J
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>> Test
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How to cheat & win with Photoshop

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No comment necessary:
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Re: PESO - Beetle

[Ken Waller]

Er, spectacular.


-Original Message-
>From: Ken Waller 
>Subject: Re: PESO - Beetle
>
>Simply speculate Jostein!
>
>
>-Original Message-
>>From: Jostein 
>>Subject: PESO - Beetle
>>
>>http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/nitidulidae-sp-1/
>>
>>645Z, FA 200/4 and Motic 10x microscope objective.
>>
>>Real life length of the beetle is about 3-4 mm.
>>
>>Pleased to see that Zerene Stacker can handle a deep stack from 50 Mpx 
>>files. Took my computer some time to churn through though. :-)
>>
>>Also pleased to see that the image circle of the Motic was big enough to 
>>avoid vignetting on this format.
>>
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Re: GESO hummingbird

[Paul Stenquist]

I agree with Gonz. They lack contrast. The black point and white point are both 
way off. A levels adjustment will make them much better. Even when the monitor 
sucks, you can trust the histogram to lead you to the promised land! :-)

Paul
> On Mar 21, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> 
> I like 44202, where it is flapping its wings in a mad attempt to clean
> off the web.  The light is very lacking on contrast though, so the
> colors on it look muddy in most of the shots.  I do like that pose
> however.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> The folks taking care of my mom's dog have a hummingbird feeder. One of the
>> hummers flew into their covered porch and while trying to escape got covered
>> up in spider webs. While it was cleaning itself off, it turned out that it's
>> comfort distance with me taking photos was actually closer than I could
>> focus with my bigma. I also tried using the 80-200 and, because I could, the
>> 100 macro. There isn't one photo that really leaps out at me as being
>> particularly noteworthy so here's the set of 21:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157681658008245
>> 
>> I brought my old apple display with me and the photos look about right on
>> the big display and a bit over on the internal display. I'd appreciate
>> feedback on how they look on other displays.  Of course all C in general
>> is appreciated.
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Re: GESO hummingbird

[Gonz]

I like 44202, where it is flapping its wings in a mad attempt to clean
off the web.  The light is very lacking on contrast though, so the
colors on it look muddy in most of the shots.  I do like that pose
however.


On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> The folks taking care of my mom's dog have a hummingbird feeder. One of the
> hummers flew into their covered porch and while trying to escape got covered
> up in spider webs. While it was cleaning itself off, it turned out that it's
> comfort distance with me taking photos was actually closer than I could
> focus with my bigma. I also tried using the 80-200 and, because I could, the
> 100 macro. There isn't one photo that really leaps out at me as being
> particularly noteworthy so here's the set of 21:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157681658008245
>
> I brought my old apple display with me and the photos look about right on
> the big display and a bit over on the internal display. I'd appreciate
> feedback on how they look on other displays.  Of course all C in general
> is appreciated.
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Re: PESO: lens compare

[Igor PDML-StR]

As far as I can tell, these two lenses are focused on different objects.
I am comparing the add sheets with "tasracing.com.au" (or whatever it is),
as well as "800".
I am also looking at the lamps in the top left corner.
It looks like the main point in focus in the bottom one is somewhere near 
the middle of the second hole.

I cannot find where the top photo's focus.

I suspect that it is why you are concluding about the lesser degree of 
sharpness in the top photo. And you might be correct.
But to draw a reliable conclusion, one should focus on a distinct feature 
in the photo (the same one for both lenses!), and I don't see that 
happening here.


I think a test pattern for the depth of focus would be really helpful here 
to unambiguously eliminate any user error. (I am talking about the 
test pattern that is tilted.)



Igor



On 21 March 2017 at 04:08 Philip Northeast wrote:





https://flic.kr/p/T5fdc1

1/5 crop of same scene taken with Pentax #pentaxK1 body and 21st century
  Zeiss planar T*f1.4 50mm at f8 and a mid 1970's Pentax M series 55mm
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Re: PESO: Meet Rayna

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Sent from my Samsung device

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Subject: Re: PESO: Meet Rayna 

Rottie?Yeah. Another Rottie.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:10 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Puppy!  a
>
> a
>
>
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Igor.

That site is specifically related to the LX.

I was never rich enough or artistic enough to justify getting an LX.

The Spotmatic is the camera I used for the longest period of time, by far.
It was a rugged little thing that lasted decades,\

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
> Dan,
>
> Just in case, - PUG has this old gallery that is similar in its idea:
> http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/
> (The 3rd link on the left shows the images.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
>
> Tue Mar 21 09:45:08 EDT 2017 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
> I think I know the one I will post, but I am still considering.  
>
> While reviewing some of my older images, I came across this piece of
> ancient history from Dario Bonazza, the keeper of the AOHC flame, marking
> the first 40 years since the introduction of the Spotmatic:
>
> http://www.aohc.it/_old/picte.html
>
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
>
> G'day, all
>>
>> A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
>> from past list members.
>>
>> Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
>>
>> Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
>>
>> Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
>> submission form and Submission Guidelines:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
>>
>> Nom. closing date 31 March.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
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Re: PESO: Meet Rayna

[Gonz]

Rottie?

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:10 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Puppy!  a
>
> a
>
>
> On 3/20/2017 11:30 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
>> She's napping in this one, but at seven weeks of age, who can blame her.
>> I'm sure there will be more of her to come.
>>
>> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/addons/rayna_sleep.html
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>> Enjoy
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>> bill
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Igor PDML-StR]

Dan,

Just in case, - PUG has this old gallery that is similar in its idea:
http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/
(The 3rd link on the left shows the images.)

Cheers,

Igor


Tue Mar 21 09:45:08 EDT 2017 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I think I know the one I will post, but I am still considering.  

While reviewing some of my older images, I came across this piece of
ancient history from Dario Bonazza, the keeper of the AOHC flame, marking
the first 40 years since the introduction of the Spotmatic:

http://www.aohc.it/_old/picte.html


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
wrote:


G'day, all

A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
from past list members.

Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!

Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery

Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
submission form and Submission Guidelines:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html

Nom. closing date 31 March.


Cheers

Brian



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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I think I know the one I will post, but I am still considering.  

While reviewing some of my older images, I came across this piece of
ancient history from Dario Bonazza, the keeper of the AOHC flame, marking
the first 40 years since the introduction of the Spotmatic:

http://www.aohc.it/_old/picte.html


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
wrote:

> G'day, all
>
> A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
> from past list members.
>
> Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
>
> Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
>
> Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
> submission form and Submission Guidelines:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
>
> Nom. closing date 31 March.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[David J Brooks]

I have it narrowed done to 6 shots, getting there

Dave

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day, all
>
> A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
> from past list members.
>
> Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
>
> Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
>
> Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
> submission form and Submission Guidelines:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
>
> Nom. closing date 31 March.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: lens compare

[Larry Colen]

On March 21, 2017 2:08:29 AM PDT, Alan C  wrote:
>Are you a denialist?

No.

>
>Alan C
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:58 AM
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>Subject: Re: PESO: lens compare
>
>
>
>Philip Northeast wrote:
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/T5fdc1
>>
>> 1/5 crop of same scene taken with Pentax #pentaxK1 body and 21st
>century
>> Zeiss planar T*f1.4 50mm at f8 and a mid 1970's Pentax M series 55mm
>> also at f8. The result may surprise.
>
>I take it that the pentax is the bottom one?
>
>There are so many complications to lens design, I wonder how they
>compare at f/1.8.  The Zeiss may have some significant strengths other
>than sharpness at f/8 that the Pentax completely lacks.
>
>I take it they were both tripod mounted, 2 second delay and focused in
>live view, zoomed all of the way in with focus peaking.

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Re: lens compare

[Alan C]

Are you a denialist?

Alan C

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Philip Northeast wrote:


https://flic.kr/p/T5fdc1

1/5 crop of same scene taken with Pentax #pentaxK1 body and 21st century
Zeiss planar T*f1.4 50mm at f8 and a mid 1970's Pentax M series 55mm
also at f8. The result may surprise.


I take it that the pentax is the bottom one?

There are so many complications to lens design, I wonder how they
compare at f/1.8.  The Zeiss may have some significant strengths other
than sharpness at f/8 that the Pentax completely lacks.

I take it they were both tripod mounted, 2 second delay and focused in
live view, zoomed all of the way in with focus peaking.

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Re: lens compare

[Alan C]

I still have the Super Tax 55/2 which came with my now defunct S1a. If set 
to M (on the lens, that is) and used in AV mode, it works very well but 
needs +1 exp. comp. The AF confirm is even OK at f8. Good quality images.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: John Coyle

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:44 AM
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Subject: RE: PESO: lens compare

I do have a Super Takumar 55/1.8, which is the same as the first Pentax lens 
I ever owned, and came
with an SV body.  I found the original version very good, quite capable of 
making prints up to 20
inches wide.  I'll have to try it on my K5ii, as this camera does seem to 
make the best of any lens

you put on it.


John in Brisbane



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Sent: Tuesday, 21 March 2017 3:54 PM
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On 21 March 2017 at 04:08 Philip Northeast  
wrote:




https://flic.kr/p/T5fdc1

1/5 crop of same scene taken with Pentax #pentaxK1 body and 21st century
  Zeiss planar T*f1.4 50mm at f8 and a mid 1970's Pentax M series 55mm
also at f8. The result may surprise.
--


I don't think I've ever seen an M series 55mm - and only rarely the SuperTak 
55/1.8.


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RE: PESO: lens compare

[John Coyle]

I do have a Super Takumar 55/1.8, which is the same as the first Pentax lens I 
ever owned, and came
with an SV body.  I found the original version very good, quite capable of 
making prints up to 20
inches wide.  I'll have to try it on my K5ii, as this camera does seem to make 
the best of any lens
you put on it.


John in Brisbane



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Sent: Tuesday, 21 March 2017 3:54 PM
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> On 21 March 2017 at 04:08 Philip Northeast  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/T5fdc1
> 
> 1/5 crop of same scene taken with Pentax #pentaxK1 body and 21st century 
>   Zeiss planar T*f1.4 50mm at f8 and a mid 1970's Pentax M series 55mm 
> also at f8. The result may surprise.
> --

I don't think I've ever seen an M series 55mm - and only rarely the SuperTak 
55/1.8.

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Re: PESO: lens compare

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Philip Northeast wrote:


https://flic.kr/p/T5fdc1

1/5 crop of same scene taken with Pentax #pentaxK1 body and 21st century
Zeiss planar T*f1.4 50mm at f8 and a mid 1970's Pentax M series 55mm
also at f8. The result may surprise.


I take it that the pentax is the bottom one?

There are so many complications to lens design, I wonder how they 
compare at f/1.8.  The Zeiss may have some significant strengths other 
than sharpness at f/8 that the Pentax completely lacks.


I take it they were both tripod mounted, 2 second delay and focused in 
live view, zoomed all of the way in with focus peaking.


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OT - "... called cameras"

[Igor PDML-StR]

"... minicomputers that also happen to have the capacity to 
be used as a telephone,” Roberts wrote. “They could just as easily be 
called cameras, video players, rolodexes, calendars, tape recorders, 
libraries, diaries, albums, televisions, maps, or newspapers.”


This Supreme Court ruling almost 3 years 
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/supreme-court-cell-phone-privacy-searches

got me thinking:
I wonder if the same logic can be applied to other "minicomputers" that 
are "called cameras", such as DSLRs? They are cameras, video recorders, 
video players, and mini-computers that do a quite externsive calculations 
on the images when you convert them. And now, many of them are 
internet-connected.
(For the reference, I remember a hack that added a Tetris game to one of 
the earlier DSLRs, some 10 years ago. Was that *ist DS or K10D?)



Igor



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Re: lens compare

[Philip Northeast]

You are right it is called a K55/1.8

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 21/3/17 4:53 pm, Alan C wrote:

Is there an M 55mm? Perhaps you meant K 55mm?

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Philip Northeast
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:47 AM
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I did try my Pentax M series 50mm f2 lens and it was terrible.

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 21/3/17 3:48 pm, Alan C wrote:

They do! The Pentax M 50/1.7 is very good - even better than the 1.4.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Philip Northeast
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:08 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: PESO: lens compare


https://flic.kr/p/T5fdc1

1/5 crop of same scene taken with Pentax #pentaxK1 body and 21st century
 Zeiss planar T*f1.4 50mm at f8 and a mid 1970's Pentax M series 55mm
also at f8. The result may surprise.




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