Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG
On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >Why do you say there is no going back? Because a referendum was held. It was a very close call, but the country voted to leave. I personally don't believe we should have had a referendum at all. We live in a parliamentary democracy - we vote the members of parliament in, and they are there to represent us and out views. Even if one lives in (say a Conservative) constituency, and one is a Labour voter, that should not prevent any constituent from going to see their MP and voicing concern. The vote was held, some would say foolishly, and the result must stand. There has been a lot of calling for a 2nd referendum. Nonesense in my view. Maybe we should have a 3rd and a 4th as well? Have one or none at all. I think there might have been mileage in Labour going into a snap election on a 'Stay in Europe' ticket, but there are 2 things wrong with that - 1) Labour have come out in support of the referendum and 2) the current leader - Jeremy Corbyn - is unelectable in my opinion. Labour has no chance with him in power, but worse - there's no chance of replacing him anytime soon - too many party activists love him, and they are not as old as you might think! It's a Catch-22 that will run for a while yet. Many thought Theresa may would be stabbed in the back and tipped into the nearest dumpster ages ago - yet she clings on. Mainly because there is no credible alternative - yet. Some thought Boris was jockeying - and he still could be - but I think that, too, is a dud scenario. Mark my words - keep your eye on Jeremy Hunt. Currently Foreign Secretary, he is just the kind of weedy, limp-handshaking, middle-of-the-road, steady- as-she-goes, with a bit of patriotic-jingoism-thrown-in-for-good-measure-type of weedy politician that typically succeeds to become leader of the party. What can we do? May is totally ineffectual, Boris is a madman, Hunt is a total twat, Corbyn a withered has-been dragging his apparatchiks along, and nobody with any stamina or passion waiting in the sidelines long enough to stick there head above the parapet before it's (in the words of a mr C Eastwood) 'blown clean off'. >I have no opinion as to what the UK should do, but if Brexit is a mistake, >someone should bite the bullet and undo it. Define 'mistake' ! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG
Why do you say there is no going back? I have no opinion as to what the UK should do, but if Brexit is a mistake, someone should bite the bullet and undo it. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 6:56 PM Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Will the UK survive all the fighting over Brexit? > > Yes of course. > > I think there will be some Picardpalms and maybe a bit of mayhem, > definitely there will be much gnashing of teeth, but nobody's gonna die, I > hope. The whole thing was a sham, the whole vote 'leave' campaign was a > joke, and not enough youngsters turned out to vote and well, there ya go. > It's done now though so there's no going back - the only thing I agree with > T May about. It's a crying shame but it's gonna happen. Actually Europe > itself is terrified more than we are. Just wait til we don't melt down, and > things stabilise, and maybe even prosper. It could still start an avalanche > that could wreck the EU. > > Things have a way of smoothing out. > > There's much more danger from the likes of Putin I reckon. > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and > || (O) |Live Broadcast News > -- > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG
On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >Will the UK survive all the fighting over Brexit? Yes of course. I think there will be some Picardpalms and maybe a bit of mayhem, definitely there will be much gnashing of teeth, but nobody's gonna die, I hope. The whole thing was a sham, the whole vote 'leave' campaign was a joke, and not enough youngsters turned out to vote and well, there ya go. It's done now though so there's no going back - the only thing I agree with T May about. It's a crying shame but it's gonna happen. Actually Europe itself is terrified more than we are. Just wait til we don't melt down, and things stabilise, and maybe even prosper. It could still start an avalanche that could wreck the EU. Things have a way of smoothing out. There's much more danger from the likes of Putin I reckon. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 06 September 2018 at 12:14 Mark Roberts wrote: > > > mike wilson wrote: > > >> On 05 September 2018 at 20:28 Mark Roberts > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Jack Davis wrote: > >> > >> >Also, the suggested slight crop at the > >> >top should essentially return the image to it's initial aspic ratio. > >> > >> That should make things gel nicely. > > > >Someone was photographing lark's tongues, again? > > ...or some such frippery. A courtly response. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG
Actually, you are not that far off. My third, and most recent, visit to the UK was in April 2008. Will the UK survive all the fighting over Brexit? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 1:35 PM Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of > rubber > >eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, and instant coffee? > > I love how Dan is still living in 1968 at RAF Coningsby playing a > harmonica sat on the wing of that Phantom ;-) > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG
You should try being in Italy, where you sometimes have to order and pay first at the cash desk (and I speak only very basic Italian) before getting your order - and they never say if that applies! But we're loving it, another week to go... John (now in Salerno) -Original Message- From: PDML On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2018 6:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG That will do, I guess, until the Proletariat Revolution comes. :-) G — Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com - 408-431-4601 > On Sep 6, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to 1953 > forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden carriages > pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare every day > to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness will be > banished from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be allowed into > this blessed realm. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Good we get to keep our under-cooked vegetables and overcooked hamburgers, all to ourselves. Life is good. On 9/6/2018 11:09 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: You'll just have to make do with wholesome American food. On 6 Sep 2018, at 16:06, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: "none of you foreigners will be allowed into this blessed realm." How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of rubber eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, and instant coffee? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola How On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:42 AM Bob W-PDML wrote: Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to 1953 forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden carriages pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare every day to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness will be banished from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be allowed into this blessed realm. On 6 Sep 2018, at 00:32, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Ah, so that's what the fuss was about. Thanx! I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he wants take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter service and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-) G On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: If you buy a takeaway you don't pay VAT, whereas if you buy to eat on premises you pay VAT (value-added tax - eating on the premises is the value-add). I assume they have VAT on the IOM. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/6/2018 7:14 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: On 05 September 2018 at 20:28 Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Also, the suggested slight crop at the top should essentially return the image to it's initial aspic ratio. That should make things gel nicely. Someone was photographing lark's tongues, again? ...or some such frippery. and it being the internet, somebody has based porn on it... -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG
On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of rubber >eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, and instant coffee? I love how Dan is still living in 1968 at RAF Coningsby playing a harmonica sat on the wing of that Phantom ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That will do, I guess, until the Proletariat Revolution comes. :-) G — Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com - 408-431-4601 > On Sep 6, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to 1953 > forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden carriages > pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare every day > to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness will be > banished from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be allowed into > this blessed realm. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You'll just have to make do with wholesome American food. > On 6 Sep 2018, at 16:06, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > "none of you foreigners will be allowed into this blessed realm." > > How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of rubber > eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, and instant coffee? > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > How > >> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:42 AM Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to >> 1953 forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden >> carriages pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare >> every day to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness >> will be banished from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be >> allowed into this blessed realm. >> >>> On 6 Sep 2018, at 00:32, Godfrey DiGiorgi >> wrote: >>> >>> Ah, so that's what the fuss was about. Thanx! >>> >>> I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he >> wants take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter >> service and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-) >>> >>> G >>> On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: If you buy a takeaway you don't pay VAT, whereas if you buy to eat on >> premises you pay VAT (value-added tax - eating on the premises is the >> value-add). I assume they have VAT on the IOM. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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"none of you foreigners will be allowed into this blessed realm." How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of rubber eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, and instant coffee? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola How On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:42 AM Bob W-PDML wrote: > Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to > 1953 forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden > carriages pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare > every day to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness > will be banished from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be > allowed into this blessed realm. > > > On 6 Sep 2018, at 00:32, Godfrey DiGiorgi > wrote: > > > > Ah, so that's what the fuss was about. Thanx! > > > > I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he > wants take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter > service and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-) > > > > G > > > >> On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > >> > >> If you buy a takeaway you don't pay VAT, whereas if you buy to eat on > premises you pay VAT (value-added tax - eating on the premises is the > value-add). I assume they have VAT on the IOM. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to 1953 forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden carriages pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare every day to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness will be banished from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be allowed into this blessed realm. > On 6 Sep 2018, at 00:32, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Ah, so that's what the fuss was about. Thanx! > > I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he wants > take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter service > and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-) > > G > >> On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> If you buy a takeaway you don't pay VAT, whereas if you buy to eat on >> premises you pay VAT (value-added tax - eating on the premises is the >> value-add). I assume they have VAT on the IOM. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG
On 6/9/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he >wants take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter >service and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-) It's a load of old fetid bollocks. A throwback to the dark ages! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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mike wilson wrote: >> On 05 September 2018 at 20:28 Mark Roberts >> wrote: >> >> >> Jack Davis wrote: >> >> >Also, the suggested slight crop at the >> >top should essentially return the image to it's initial aspic ratio. >> >> That should make things gel nicely. > >Someone was photographing lark's tongues, again? ...or some such frippery. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On 05 September 2018 at 20:28 Mark Roberts wrote: > > > Jack Davis wrote: > > >Also, the suggested slight crop at the > >top should essentially return the image to it's initial aspic ratio. > > That should make things gel nicely. Someone was photographing lark's tongues, again? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
