Re: Lightroom... Darktable... what else?
DxO Optics Pro. Doesn't require a subscription, supports tagging and keyword searching, but lets you set up your own structure, and leaves your, photos right where you left them. It's biggest issue is not supporting Pentax cameras prior to K10D. It's second biggest flaw is it kind of wants to nanny you. If it doesn't recognize a lens, it looks for what it thinks is the correct one and nags you to download that module, unless you turn off that feature. It does a nice job rendering K20D and K-5II files, and best of all it's not an Adobe product. I've been testing other options and Raw Therapee is pretty good, and supports more camera bodies, but it's interface is very quirky, and Darktable is a bit slow. I haven't checked if it covers all the camera's I've created files with, but I decided not to use it because it was slow, compared to DxO Optics Pro. On 12/17/2018 12:14 PM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: En domingo, 16 de diciembre de 2018 23:22:11 CET, Ralf R Radermacher escribió: Those [...insert choice expletive here...] at Adobe have ruined Lightroom 6 for me. I often need to look for what photos I have of a particular place and this function has been killed by some change to a Google API. Lightroom CC is out of the question for practical reasons (main phases of activity at a place with dreadfully slow internet access) and for principal questions. Tried Darktable and find it awfuly clumsy and far too slow. What else is there, if anything? I need the database function, the RAW development tools, lens corrections, and the map function. Any suggestions? Ralph, I have a similar dilemma. I want to start with raw development and I would prefer to avoid a subscription model. I was considering Darktable and Rawtherapee and I am interested in your findings on the former. Where did you installed it (OS/hardware...) ? Thanks ! Jaume -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Finally some PESOS
First up - recently there was a discussion of the DA50 f/1.8, how good it was and etc. It prompted me to check it out on the K-1. Although it's supposed to be an APS-C (crop) lens, I can't see any vignetting. I double checked to make sure my K-1 is NOT set to automatically switch to crop mode when it detects a DA lens. https://flic.kr/p/RuGr2G This image is a throw-away, taken only for the four light corners where vignetting would be obvious. I didn't think to check it until a few minutes ago, but the DA50 f/1.8 doesn't appear to vignette at f/22 either. Won't post that image because it's just a boring blank piece of sheet-rock wall in my kitchen. Second - Comet Wirtanen. I still can't see it with the naked (assisted by glasses) eye or pick it out with binoculars, but the sky cleared off last night & I thought of a place out of the city where I might find dark (enough) skies.* I had an idea it would be near the Pleiades, so I set the camera on the tripod and centered up the Pleiades in Live View. I expected it to be slightly south, but turned out to be slightly north. Look for a tiny, green, fuzzy dot in the center of the frame. https://flic.kr/p/2ceSwQT This is maybe the third or fourth shot after I finally remembered to pre-focus at infinity (took the camera off the tripod and auto-focused on the Moon). And finally - the one photo I took of last week's snow in Raleigh; 4:00am & I just pushed the screen door open long enough to shoot one handed before going back to bed. https://flic.kr/p/2ceSwMr K-1 and FA-50 f/1.4 *35.722876, -79.128671 if anyone is interested. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom... Darktable... what else?
Ralf, Why blame Adobe for a change that Google made to a Google API? This is the precise situation that led Apple to expend untold dollars in developing their own Maps system: not wanting to be reliant upon Google or anyone else's map APIs. Adobe just licenses the SDK from Google and tries to keep up with Google changes to that API. There are always slips and issues with that kind of arrangement, and if you're using a perpetual license version of Lightroom (like I am, v6.14 … the last ever update of the perpetual license version, according to Adobe), changes like this to the Google API will never be addressed. If you want this feature, now that Google has changed the underlying API, you must go to Lightroom CC or whichever version now is going to get development updates. I don't know of any other popularly priced image processing software that includes all of Lightroom's features as you describe below. I'm planning to retire Lightroom entirely within the next year and have not used PS or Bridge in years. I structured my file system layout and workflow at the very beginning (late 2006) to prepare for this change, because I knew that all things like this have an end. The question is how to get the features I want/use now without using PS/Bridge/Lightroom. To that end I've started evaluating a couple of other image processing systems. The two I've looked at the most, so far, are Affinity Photo and RAW Power. Both of these have versions which run on macOS and iOS (my two OS platforms … sorry, I know nothing about Windows or Linux versions since I never use those systems). Both do exceptionally clean raw conversions (RAW Power utilizes Apple's raw processing frameworks, which are really very good; I'm not sure about Affinity Photo). I've also got a copy of Luminar 2018 to work with, but haven't had time to look at it much yet. One of the advantages of RAW Power is that it works as an adjunct to Apple's Photos app(s) and can manipulate the Photos data stores. This nets you the advantage of using Photos tools for presentation and display, sharing, printing, and location evaluation while giving you a much better image processing front end. And other apps that use the Photos data stores (like Apple's suite of Pages, Keynote, Numbers, etc) can all access the rendered images directly as well. Combining RAW Power with these other apps and linking them through Automator for workflow operations will net what I want, I think, but I haven't finished learning either Photos or RAW Power to make a definitive statement. Another image management system that might add part of what you want back, in the absence of Lightroom, is Cumulus. It's worth looking into. The biggest challenge for me isn't the image management, or the GPS management. It's printing. LR's templated printing is hard to beat when it comes to wanting to put out a wide variety of print products consistently and efficiently. Good luck! G > On Dec 16, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Those [...insert choice expletive here...] at Adobe have ruined Lightroom 6 > for me. I often need to look for what photos I have of a particular place and > this function has been killed by some change to a Google API. > > Lightroom CC is out of the question for practical reasons (main phases of > activity at a place with dreadfully slow internet access) and for principal > questions. > > Tried Darktable and find it awfuly clumsy and far too slow. > > What else is there, if anything? I need the database function, the RAW > development tools, lens corrections, and the map function. > > Any suggestions? > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2018 - 128 - GDG
Hmm, well that was odd. The link was supposed to be just the short one in this re-post… — A bright moment of flowers. https://flic.kr/p/2aRinVj enjoy! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom... Darktable... what else?
I have been fiddeling around with ON1 and find it quite similar to LR/ Dave On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:22 PM Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Those [...insert choice expletive here...] at Adobe have ruined > Lightroom 6 for me. I often need to look for what photos I have of a > particular place and this function has been killed by some change to a > Google API. > > Lightroom CC is out of the question for practical reasons (main phases > of activity at a place with dreadfully slow internet access) and for > principal questions. > > Tried Darktable and find it awfuly clumsy and far too slow. > > What else is there, if anything? I need the database function, the RAW > development tools, lens corrections, and the map function. > > Any suggestions? > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday
!!! Alan C On 17-Dec-18 05:48 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: My K5 is like an old dog. I would never dispose of it, though I used the K-1 mostly. Even bought a DA 21/3.2 for it so it fits in the pocket of my wintercoat. Henk Op 2018-12-15 om 20:25 schreef Boris Liberman: John, previously I only sold my gear on PDML and PentaxForums. I sold few items to local photogs who were from the same venues... I'll have to really research that as I've no idea as to how these things are done here. You're right about the taxes though as of recently, it has become quite all right. Boris On Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 21:38 John OTOH, while KEH's price for a K-5 (EX condition) is just above $250, that DOES NOT INCLUDE a battery grip & spare battery ... that would cost another $100 from KEH. So I don't think your $300 asking price is out of line. If I wanted & needed a K-5 *WITH GRIP & EXTRA BATTERY* I'd be willing to pay that much. That's less than the same combination from KEH would cost me. If I remember, you have to pay significant premium in import duties & VAT where you're living. You might get a better price for it locally than you can from someone here in the U.S. (or even from list members in the UK & EU). Do y'all have something like Craig's List over there? What about eBay? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom... Darktable... what else?
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:22 AM Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Tried Darktable and find it awfuly clumsy and far too slow. > > What else is there, if anything? I need the database function, the RAW > development tools, lens corrections, and the map function. > > Any suggestions? Have you tried RawTherapee? https://rawtherapee.com/ It should work on Windows, OSX and Linux, and I find it very useful and feature-full. It does have file-management capabilities (although not quite a "database function"). (I am using Linux and thus have only compared it to `darktable`, thus my "view" is quite limited...) Ciprian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom... Darktable... what else?
>>En domingo, 16 de diciembre de 2018 23:22:11 CET, Ralf R Radermacher >> escribió: Those [...insert choice expletive here...] at Adobe have ruined Lightroom 6 for me. I often need to look for what photos I have of a particular place and this function has been killed by some change to a Google API. Lightroom CC is out of the question for practical reasons (main phases of activity at a place with dreadfully slow internet access) and for principal questions. Tried Darktable and find it awfuly clumsy and far too slow. What else is there, if anything? I need the database function, the RAW development tools, lens corrections, and the map function. >>Any suggestions? Ralph, I have a similar dilemma. I want to start with raw development and I would prefer to avoid a subscription model. I was considering Darktable and Rawtherapee and I am interested in your findings on the former. Where did you installed it (OS/hardware...) ? Thanks ! Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom... Darktable... what else?
Two work-around suggestions… 1. Can you restore your previous LR6? Then locate and keyword your images. 2. I agree about Lightroom CC, but I use Lightroom Classic CC. I do object to the Subscription model, but the cost is probably lower than what I was spending on annual upgrades and I do get other apps in the Photo bundle. Try the Classic and see if that doesn’t work for you… Stan > On Dec 16, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Those [...insert choice expletive here...] at Adobe have ruined Lightroom 6 > for me. I often need to look for what photos I have of a particular place and > this function has been killed by some change to a Google API. > > Lightroom CC is out of the question for practical reasons (main phases of > activity at a place with dreadfully slow internet access) and for principal > questions. > > Tried Darktable and find it awfuly clumsy and far too slow. > > What else is there, if anything? I need the database function, the RAW > development tools, lens corrections, and the map function. > > Any suggestions? > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday
My K5 is like an old dog. I would never dispose of it, though I used the K-1 mostly. Even bought a DA 21/3.2 for it so it fits in the pocket of my wintercoat. Henk Op 2018-12-15 om 20:25 schreef Boris Liberman: John, previously I only sold my gear on PDML and PentaxForums. I sold few items to local photogs who were from the same venues... I'll have to really research that as I've no idea as to how these things are done here. You're right about the taxes though as of recently, it has become quite all right. Boris On Fri, Dec 14, 2018, 21:38 John OTOH, while KEH's price for a K-5 (EX condition) is just above $250, that DOES NOT INCLUDE a battery grip & spare battery ... that would cost another $100 from KEH. So I don't think your $300 asking price is out of line. If I wanted & needed a K-5 *WITH GRIP & EXTRA BATTERY* I'd be willing to pay that much. That's less than the same combination from KEH would cost me. If I remember, you have to pay significant premium in import duties & VAT where you're living. You might get a better price for it locally than you can from someone here in the U.S. (or even from list members in the UK & EU). Do y'all have something like Craig's List over there? What about eBay? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2018 - 128 - GDG
" Oops! Looks like you followed a bad link. " Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:09 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > A bright moment of flowers. > > [url= > https://flic.kr/p/2aRinVj][img]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4817/44533802400_89b72f1967_o.jpg[/img][/url > ] > > enjoy! > G > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2018 - 128 - GDG
A bright moment of flowers. [url=https://flic.kr/p/2aRinVj][img]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4817/44533802400_89b72f1967_o.jpg[/img][/url] enjoy! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: O: Historical Photographs
Dan, very interesting story these pictures tell us. Excellent quality, these wartime photographs. Henk Op 2018-12-16 om 03:10 schreef Daniel J. Matyola: An interesting use of technology and photography. Like traveling back in time! Directions: There are phots from 1944 Click on the photo anywhere and it will become 2014. Click again and it will go back to 1944. Then scroll down for next photo. https://interactive.guim.co.uk/embed/2014/apr/image-opacity-slider-master/index.html?ww2-dday Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
