Stupid camera tricks
The SD card stopped "locking in" on the #1 slot on my K-1. If I put it in and latch the gate, it'll read the card, but the latch it in function has ceased working. Has anyone else dealt with this problem and fixed it? I'm not enthused for paying $300 or whatever for what a camera repair at precision costs. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612824732477/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A penetrating look at the segregated South
What the hell is going on here? Take it off list, kiddies. Paul > On Jun 3, 2019, at 8:46 PM, William Robb wrote: > > Is that what you call that thing? > >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019, 6:05 PM Ken Waller wrote: >> >> >> Didn't take long for this thread to drag the president in. >> >> -Original Message- >>> From: Bill >>> Subject: Re: OT: A penetrating look at the segregated South >>> On 6/3/2019 2:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Certainly, segregation and discrimination affected the entire country. >> It was a matter of degree. It was not "actual law" in all 48 states as you claim, however. In our area, the public schools were fully integrated before the 1920s. The difference in the way African Americans were treated in the 1960s >> between New Jersey and North Carolina was quite dramatic, based on my own >> personal experience. I would never claim that the north was or is perfect; I am, however, >> sick and tired of attempts to excuse what happened in the south by the false claim that it was really no worse than the rest of the country. Dan Matyola >>> >>> Dan, it wouldn't surprise me if the orange baboon king declares by >>> executive fiat that May 20th will henceforth be known as Thomas Rice >>> Day, with everyone being given a can of black show polish. >>> Then you can be angry as well as sick and tired. >>> >>> bill >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A couple from my trip to LA last week
Double Felix: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47997275357/in/album-72157708914797077/ I didn't realize it but you can nearly see Oxnard from Hollywood https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47997349751/in/album-72157708914797077/ full album at https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708914797077 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612824732477/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A penetrating look at the segregated South
Is that what you call that thing? On Mon, Jun 3, 2019, 6:05 PM Ken Waller wrote: > > Didn't take long for this thread to drag the president in. > > -Original Message- > >From: Bill > >Subject: Re: OT: A penetrating look at the segregated South > > > >On 6/3/2019 2:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >> Certainly, segregation and discrimination affected the entire country. > It > >> was a matter of degree. > >> > >> It was not "actual law" in all 48 states as you claim, however. In our > >> area, the public schools were fully integrated before the 1920s. The > >> difference in the way African Americans were treated in the 1960s > between > >> New Jersey and North Carolina was quite dramatic, based on my own > personal > >> experience. > >> > >> I would never claim that the north was or is perfect; I am, however, > sick > >> and tired of attempts to excuse what happened in the south by the false > >> claim that it was really no worse than the rest of the country. > >> > >> Dan Matyola > >> > > > >Dan, it wouldn't surprise me if the orange baboon king declares by > >executive fiat that May 20th will henceforth be known as Thomas Rice > >Day, with everyone being given a can of black show polish. > >Then you can be angry as well as sick and tired. > > > >bill > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: April faves
Only two keepers from April https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157691162828363 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612824732477/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A penetrating look at the segregated South
Didn't take long for this thread to drag the president in. -Original Message- >From: Bill >Subject: Re: OT: A penetrating look at the segregated South > >On 6/3/2019 2:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> Certainly, segregation and discrimination affected the entire country. It >> was a matter of degree. >> >> It was not "actual law" in all 48 states as you claim, however. In our >> area, the public schools were fully integrated before the 1920s. The >> difference in the way African Americans were treated in the 1960s between >> New Jersey and North Carolina was quite dramatic, based on my own personal >> experience. >> >> I would never claim that the north was or is perfect; I am, however, sick >> and tired of attempts to excuse what happened in the south by the false >> claim that it was really no worse than the rest of the country. >> >> Dan Matyola >> > >Dan, it wouldn't surprise me if the orange baboon king declares by >executive fiat that May 20th will henceforth be known as Thomas Rice >Day, with everyone being given a can of black show polish. >Then you can be angry as well as sick and tired. > >bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steller video
On 6/3/2019 7:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I don't know if links to facebook video work, but here's a try I think it only works for your Facebook friends. -- Dale H. Cook, decades as 35mm SLR photographer, now Pentax K-70 w/ Pentax-DA 18-270mm walking-around lens https://plymouthcolony.net/photos/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Steller video
I had set up my K-3 on a tripod for video, then wandered into the living room. When I was between rooms, Dadbird came to the nest. I don't know if links to facebook video work, but here's a try https://www.facebook.com/ellarsee/videos/10157389500764673/?notif_id=1559603721483787¬if_t=video_processed -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612824732477/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend
On 2/6/19, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'm home. Thanks for the report John - much appreciated. I'm planning on being there next year so I'll buy you that cup of coffee at the Maccy D's if it's open by then! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Madrid 2 (re-sending)
Odd. It didn’t appear in my view of the list. Thanks for letting me know. On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 13:29 Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > I did see this yesterday, Rick. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 1:15 PM Rick Womer wrote: > > > I sent this twice yesterday, but it never appeared on the list. > > > > Voila: > > > > https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Spain-2019/Madrid-2/ > > > > Coming up, a small gallery from the Madrid Cathedral. > > > > Rick > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A penetrating look at the segregated South
On 6/3/2019 2:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Certainly, segregation and discrimination affected the entire country. It was a matter of degree. It was not "actual law" in all 48 states as you claim, however. In our area, the public schools were fully integrated before the 1920s. The difference in the way African Americans were treated in the 1960s between New Jersey and North Carolina was quite dramatic, based on my own personal experience. I would never claim that the north was or is perfect; I am, however, sick and tired of attempts to excuse what happened in the south by the false claim that it was really no worse than the rest of the country. Dan Matyola Dan, it wouldn't surprise me if the orange baboon king declares by executive fiat that May 20th will henceforth be known as Thomas Rice Day, with everyone being given a can of black show polish. Then you can be angry as well as sick and tired. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs The hunter and the hunted
Nice captures Paul. The hunter might get more than it bargained for if it attacks those hunted. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: PESOs The hunter and the hunted The hunter: https://www.photo.net/photo/18542610/The-Hunter The hunted: https://www.photo.net/photo/18542609/Bluejay-Obverse https://www.photo.net/photo/18542608/Red-Bellied-Woodpecker https://www.photo.net/photo/18542606/Bluejay -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: please do not disturb
Thanks, Ken! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 4:24 PM Ken Waller wrote: > >Is there any way to lure them to alight, like one can > > sometimes lure butterflies to alight on a piece of fruit or some > sweetened > > water? > > I've found the best time to photograph dragonflies has been in the early > morning before the sun rises enough to warm/wake them up - they're almost > immobile at that point. I've also had the best luck, in Michigan to seek > them out late August/early September. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - > From: "Daniel J. Matyola" > Subject: Re: PESO: please do not disturb > > > > WOW! Great catch, and well rendered. I love the sharp focus on the > > sitting damselflies contrasted with the motion blur of the wings on the > > flying one. > > > > I saw a few dragonflies or damselflies in the garden around our pool this > > weekend, but they were too flighty, and I could never get close enough > > even > > to attempt a shot. Is there any way to lure them to alight, like one can > > sometimes lure butterflies to alight on a piece of fruit or some > sweetened > > water? > > > > Dan Matyola > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 2:47 PM Henk Terhell wrote: > > > >> I saw the wings of this pair of damselflies suddenly raising at the > >> moment another male flew by. > >> https://flic.kr/p/2g52aW1 > >> > >> Henk > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A penetrating look at the segregated South
Certainly, segregation and discrimination affected the entire country. It was a matter of degree. It was not "actual law" in all 48 states as you claim, however. In our area, the public schools were fully integrated before the 1920s. The difference in the way African Americans were treated in the 1960s between New Jersey and North Carolina was quite dramatic, based on my own personal experience. I would never claim that the north was or is perfect; I am, however, sick and tired of attempts to excuse what happened in the south by the false claim that it was really no worse than the rest of the country. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 3:37 PM John wrote: > It's the Washington Post & they won't let me read the article unless I buy > a > subscription. > > I will point out however, that "Jim Crow", no matter how blatant it was in > the > south was actual law in all 48 states and the Federal government. > > And today, despite the Civil Rights movement, the Civil Rights Act and the > Voting Rights Act, it remains a problem in all 50 states as well as the > Federal > government. Some places just do a better job of hiding it while other > places > blatantly flaunt it. > > On 6/3/2019 13:44:47, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/06/03/new-book-photographs-offers-penetrating-gaze-into-segregated-south-during-redemption-jim-crow/ > > > > > > Dan Matyola > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: please do not disturb
Is there any way to lure them to alight, like one can sometimes lure butterflies to alight on a piece of fruit or some sweetened water? I've found the best time to photograph dragonflies has been in the early morning before the sun rises enough to warm/wake them up - they're almost immobile at that point. I've also had the best luck, in Michigan to seek them out late August/early September. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: Re: PESO: please do not disturb WOW! Great catch, and well rendered. I love the sharp focus on the sitting damselflies contrasted with the motion blur of the wings on the flying one. I saw a few dragonflies or damselflies in the garden around our pool this weekend, but they were too flighty, and I could never get close enough even to attempt a shot. Is there any way to lure them to alight, like one can sometimes lure butterflies to alight on a piece of fruit or some sweetened water? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 2:47 PM Henk Terhell wrote: I saw the wings of this pair of damselflies suddenly raising at the moment another male flew by. https://flic.kr/p/2g52aW1 Henk -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A penetrating look at the segregated South
It's the Washington Post & they won't let me read the article unless I buy a subscription. I will point out however, that "Jim Crow", no matter how blatant it was in the south was actual law in all 48 states and the Federal government. And today, despite the Civil Rights movement, the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, it remains a problem in all 50 states as well as the Federal government. Some places just do a better job of hiding it while other places blatantly flaunt it. On 6/3/2019 13:44:47, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/06/03/new-book-photographs-offers-penetrating-gaze-into-segregated-south-during-redemption-jim-crow/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New toy, lens adapter question
John Francis wrote on 6/3/19 9:51 AM: On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 10:49:24PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: I was pretty stoked today to be given a new (to me) toy, an Olympus E-PL1, with a 17/2.8 and a 14-42. I know that there are a couple people on the list who also have a foot in the u4/3 world. Does anyone have recommendations for lens adapters? I've got a bunch of K-mount, manual focus Minolta and some old Nikon glass lying around. Nice little toy, isn't it? Picture quality seems to be pretty good: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708902630887 The user interface is atrocious. That is not a condemnation of u4/3 in general, but it's an incredible pain to take any manual control of it. The form factor, particularly without the evf, is very tough to hole in even my dainty little paws. I bought one for my wife (with the 14-42 and 40-150 lenses) back in 2010, although I've probably used it myself rather more than she has. Somewhere around here I've got the adapter I bought to use my Pentax 50mm with it when I wanted to take some pictures of the miniature figures we use for tabletop RPGs - if I manage to turn it up I'll let you know. (I would like to try out the 17/2.8 sometime, too) Gee, maybe we should get together and play with cameras sometime. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612824732477/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: A penetrating look at the segregated South
https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/06/03/new-book-photographs-offers-penetrating-gaze-into-segregated-south-during-redemption-jim-crow/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Madrid 2 (re-sending)
I did see this yesterday, Rick. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 1:15 PM Rick Womer wrote: > I sent this twice yesterday, but it never appeared on the list. > > Voila: > > https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Spain-2019/Madrid-2/ > > Coming up, a small gallery from the Madrid Cathedral. > > Rick > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Madrid 2 (re-sending)
I sent this twice yesterday, but it never appeared on the list. Voila: https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Spain-2019/Madrid-2/ Coming up, a small gallery from the Madrid Cathedral. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New toy, lens adapter question
On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 10:49:24PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > I was pretty stoked today to be given a new (to me) toy, an Olympus E-PL1, > with a 17/2.8 and a 14-42. I know that there are a couple people on the list > who also have a foot in the u4/3 world. Does anyone have recommendations > for lens adapters? I've got a bunch of K-mount, manual focus Minolta and > some old Nikon glass lying around. Nice little toy, isn't it? I bought one for my wife (with the 14-42 and 40-150 lenses) back in 2010, although I've probably used it myself rather more than she has. Somewhere around here I've got the adapter I bought to use my Pentax 50mm with it when I wanted to take some pictures of the miniature figures we use for tabletop RPGs - if I manage to turn it up I'll let you know. (I would like to try out the 17/2.8 sometime, too) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM Nature Photography Weekend
It was great to see you and chat, John. Looks like you had a full weekend, and that's all we can ask for. I got back around 7:30 last night, slept in this morning, and am now in a somewhat catatonic state, which is typical for me after the NPW. It's the price I pay for the manic levels of energy I expend on the mountain. With luck I'll be there in August and I hope to see you again. On 6/2/19 11:54 PM, John wrote: I'm home. This was the first year I didn't have to rush back to get Baxter out of kitty jail ... I mean the pet hotel. Didn't win any prizes, so my record for not taking the contest too seriously remains unblemished. Didn't do a whole lot of nature PHOTOGRAPHY, but it was an interesting weekend for seeing nature. While I was driving up a Pileated woodpecker flew across the road right in front of me. It was there and then it was gone, but it was plainly visible; best look at one I've ever had. Every time I've encountered them before, they were always up in a tree and hiding around the other side of the trunk. BIG woodpecker. No hiding this time. Sunrise Saturday was a bust. Heavy gusts & thick overcast caused them to close off the top of the mountain, including the trail-head for the Black Rock Nature Trail (EASY, 1 mile trail with good view of the Parkway from Grandfather Mountain). I'd used The Photographers Ephemeris to figure out where I was going to shoot sunrise from & was going to try out the 15-30 f/2.8 to see if I could image stack the foreground with the "Waning crescent 4.9%" almost new moon that rose one hour before the sunrise. So, once I found out there wasn't gonna be no sunrise with an almost new "Waning crescent 4.9%" moon, I figured I'd head down to McDonald's at Banner Elk & get a cup of coffee to jump-start my mental processes ... except it was closed when I got there. Doug later told me it caught fire & they're having to rebuild it. I ended up with a cup of gas station coffee from the mini-mart across the road. Coming back to the mountain, I spotted a flock of wild turkeys out on the edge of McCrae Meadow with the dominant Tom making a display. I managed to get a couple of photos before someone else stopped & decided to walk up on them to get closer ... with predictable results. On the way back from Banner Elk, I saw a sign for a Draft Horse pulling contest, so I bagged the contest & went over to take some photos there. I'd never seen one before. Headed back to the mountain around 4:00pm to turn in my one photo. They extended the submission deadline until 5:00pm this year. Went through Banner Elk again, and just before I got to the country club entrance on NC 105, a bear cub came down the hill from my right and ran across the road in front of me. Again, I got a real good look, but no time to reach for my camera. Even if I hadn't been fully occupied with driving, I deliberately put the camera out of reach when I am driving so I won't be too tempted to do something too stupid. After this morning's presentations & issuing certificates to the winners, I took a walk through the habitats before heading home. They've got a new Elk habitat. And it looks like they've got plans to expand the museum complex. The drawings they have in the brochure make it look like it's going to be on the other side of the auditorium where the picnic shelter is now. Took a different route home, partly to see if I could remember one of the old short-cuts I used to use when I was running service for the alarm company & needed to get between two clients who weren't connected by an interstate (or even a primary road). Nailed it & had a nice sunset along the way. "Fields of Gold" and all that, so I got to see a nice bit of nature this weekend, even if I didn't get to photograph all that much of it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
