Re: Jupiter and Saturn conjunction coming up 21 December

2020-11-21 Thread Ken Waller
A little photoshop.


-Original Message-
>From: Larry Colen 
>Sent: Nov 21, 2020 6:27 PM
>Subject: Jupiter and Saturn conjunction coming up 21 December
>
>I wonder what it would take to get them both in the same frame, and to do it 
>with the Jovian moons visible as well.
>
>https://phys.org/news/2020-11-december-jupiter-saturn-planet-middle.html
>
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OT u4/3

2020-11-21 Thread Larry Colen
Today the friend I had loaned my u4/3 camera to returned it.  There are a lot 
of things to like about micro 4/3, but using that camera is pretty miserable.  
It’s an oly E PL1, doesn’t have a viewfinder and trying to make adjustments on 
it is terribly awkward.  However, I can see a lot of advantages to u43 over 
even my K3 when I’m going for a bike ride. 

I know that there are a few folks on this list that also have u4/3 systems I’m 
curious about the most cost effective u4/3 body that handles like a real 
camera, and how much it would set me back.  I expect that it would be something 
used to keep an eye out for in the usual places.  It’s not that I have the 
money for one, but it’s generally better to start looking sooner rather than 
later.

My impression is that the OMDs are some of the nicer ones to use.

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Jupiter and Saturn conjunction coming up 21 December

2020-11-21 Thread Larry Colen
I wonder what it would take to get them both in the same frame, and to do it 
with the Jovian moons visible as well.

https://phys.org/news/2020-11-december-jupiter-saturn-planet-middle.html


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Re: OT - Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time.

2020-11-21 Thread Igor PDML-StR




I vaguely remember that instructions for some inkjet photo printer or photo 
papers suggested to let the prints dry for 24 hours.


With R2880, I am also spoiled, and not waiting for long, if at all.


Igor

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Bulent Celasun Sat, 21 Nov 2020 02:06:49 -0800 wrote:

I used to have an Epson Stylus Photo Inkjet Printer (Probably R2880)
which was using Ultrachrome K3 ink set. The print quality, even on
common garden papers, was above my expectations and I had no problems
ever when it was operational. Due entirely to my long neglect,
clogging problem killed that printer.

Now I have an Epson L805, a simpler and cheaper model with a cheaper
(read, lower quality) ink set (EcoTank).

I have quite a stock of inkjet printing paper (mostly Kodak, labelled
as premium, ultra etc). Unfortunately, my recent L805 ink set
(especially the dark tones) is notoriusly late to dry. A fairly dark
print takes more than a week to dry. Even then, if you put a glass on
top, there are little foci that stick (or, if you press some plain
paper on the image you still see a few ink droplets transferred to the
paper).

Original Epson inkjet papers are very expensive and practically
unavailable. There is only the A3 size (not suitable for my L805) and
it is sold for about 3 dollars each. I guess there should be no ink
drying problem if one can use those.

Now, here is my question:
Can I do anything "after printing to an ordinary inkjet photo paper"
to make it dry quicker AND completely without damaging the image?
Would sunlight or heat or wind or ... work?

By the way, the printer accepts a command to print on a no-name card
and uses somewhat less ink for that (on the premise that it may not
absorb the ink well). So, there is practically nothing I can do
"before" printing.

Comments and help appreciated.

Bulent



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Re: PUG Themes for 2021 - Final List

2020-11-21 Thread Igor PDML-StR



That's the story of my life... :-)

... And they call it "just in time economy"...


Igor

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ann sanfedele Sat, 21 Nov 2020 09:07:40 -0800 wrote:

...

Igor - you know don't have to take a photo in the month the theme is in... 
in fact, you'd be submitting it late every time if you did. ;-)

ann



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Re: Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time

2020-11-21 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 21.11.20 um 17:58 schrieb Bipin Gupta:


g) A Radiant Heater placed in front of the Prints made them dry almost
instantly - Best Solution.


There used to be hot-air and infrared dryers for RC photo paper in the
days of analog photography.

One example would be the Kaiser 4022 (3ßx40 cm).

Other models like the Kindermann dryers have rollers to transport the
paper and queeze off any remaining water. Those would obviously smudge
your prints. I think I even have one of those in my basement lab.

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Re: PUG Themes for 2021 - Final List

2020-11-21 Thread ann sanfedele

Nice list..  glad you left in mailboxes..

Brian - hmmm Patterns in Nature, eh? what made you think of that?

Igor - you know don't have to take a photo in the month the theme is 
in... in fact, you'd be submitting it late every time if you did. ;-)

ann


On 11/21/2020 11:17 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Thanks for your work, Brian!

There are some appealingly challenging subjects here.

Rick


On Nov 21, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


I see the antipodean calendar embedded in this list. :-)

There is a Russian saying about a greedy person: "you wouldn't get snow from him/her 
in the middle of a winter".
It would be even harder to find snow in August in the Northern hemisphere.
:-)

Flora in November can also a bit challenging for the northerners, as by now, 
there has been snow in some regions. But at least some would have (or would 
just had) a golden fall.

Just saying...

Igor

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Brian W Fri, 20 Nov 2020 13:29:51 -0800 wrote:

As the saying goes - "you can't please everyone" - so here is the final list. I
had to leave in a couple of themes that were not popular and pad out the 12
months with two or three themes from past PUGs.

So, here is the list:
Jan: Weather
Feb: Landscapes in Black & White
Mar: Marine
Apr: Still Life
May: Railway
Jun: Open Gallery
Jul: Architecture
Aug: Snow
Sep: Mailboxes
Oct: Patterns in Nature
Nov: Flora
Dec: Road Less Travelled

Cheers
Brian






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Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time

2020-11-21 Thread Bipin Gupta
Hello Bulent and other Friends with a similar problem.
I bought some photo paper in Dubai in bulk and pretty cheap. Using a
Canon Pixma MG6470 AIO Printer I had the same problem with the Black
Ink taking longer to dry. It would smudge and spoil the entire print.
This Printer uses two kinds of Black ink Tanks - one Dye Black and the
other Pigment Black.
I am a Techie and a DIY person and a deep research took me to this conclusion:-
a) Some photo papers have a thicker coating on which Ink takes longer to dry.
b) Pigment Ink sits longer on paper before it dries - pigments in the
Ink are some kind of very fine solid and will not enter the paper
structure easily.
c) Dye Inks sink into the paper and dry faster.
d) Cheaper Bulk Ink from Ali Baba was no better or worse than Canon's
original which is 5-times as expensive.
I do refilling as DIY fun and they work OK.
e) Better Photo Paper dried faster - Matte being better than Glossy -
but still the Dye Black Ink took longer to dry.
Experiment with quality Photo Paper.
f) Bond Letter Paper - 90 to 120 GSM - dried the fastest. Not bad -
good print quality.
g) A Radiant Heater placed in front of the Prints made them dry almost
instantly - Best Solution.
Stay safe and Blessed in these Pandemic times.
Bipin B. Gupta
retd Advisor Nissan ME, N. Africa & CIS
Thornhill, Ontario.

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Re: PUG Themes for 2021 - Final List

2020-11-21 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks for your work, Brian!

There are some appealingly challenging subjects here.

Rick

> On Nov 21, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> I see the antipodean calendar embedded in this list. :-)
> 
> There is a Russian saying about a greedy person: "you wouldn't get snow from 
> him/her in the middle of a winter".
> It would be even harder to find snow in August in the Northern hemisphere.
> :-)
> 
> Flora in November can also a bit challenging for the northerners, as by now, 
> there has been snow in some regions. But at least some would have (or would 
> just had) a golden fall.
> 
> Just saying...
> 
> Igor
> 
> Sent from mobile phone
> 
> 
> Brian W Fri, 20 Nov 2020 13:29:51 -0800 wrote:
> 
> As the saying goes - "you can't please everyone" - so here is the final list. 
> I
> had to leave in a couple of themes that were not popular and pad out the 12
> months with two or three themes from past PUGs.
> 
> So, here is the list:
> Jan: Weather
> Feb: Landscapes in Black & White
> Mar: Marine
> Apr: Still Life
> May: Railway
> Jun: Open Gallery
> Jul: Architecture
> Aug: Snow
> Sep: Mailboxes
> Oct: Patterns in Nature
> Nov: Flora
> Dec: Road Less Travelled
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO: harrier portrait

2020-11-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Another great capture!

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 4:26 AM Subash Jeyan  wrote:

> all i've got to show for a saturday morning's birding:
>
> http://something-feathered.in/2020/11/21/harrier-portrait/
>
> montagu's harrier (female)...
>
> k3ii and sigma 150-500 OS HSM @500 mm, handheld. cropped image.
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Re: PUG Themes for 2021 - Final List

2020-11-21 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I see the antipodean calendar embedded in this list. :-)

There is a Russian saying about a greedy person: "you wouldn't get snow 
from him/her in the middle of a winter".

It would be even harder to find snow in August in the Northern hemisphere.
:-)

Flora in November can also a bit challenging for the northerners, as by 
now, there has been snow in some regions. But at least some would have (or 
would just had) a golden fall.


Just saying...

Igor

Sent from mobile phone


Brian W Fri, 20 Nov 2020 13:29:51 -0800 wrote:

As the saying goes - "you can't please everyone" - so here is the final list. I
had to leave in a couple of themes that were not popular and pad out the 12
months with two or three themes from past PUGs.

So, here is the list:
Jan: Weather
Feb: Landscapes in Black & White
Mar: Marine
Apr: Still Life
May: Railway
Jun: Open Gallery
Jul: Architecture
Aug: Snow
Sep: Mailboxes
Oct: Patterns in Nature
Nov: Flora
Dec: Road Less Travelled

Cheers
Brian






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Re: Peso: Notorious

2020-11-21 Thread ann sanfedele


Thanks,  Paul and other Paul and Jan and Alan ! Seeing it cheered me up 
a bit.


On 11/20/2020 11:06 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I rarely like photos of art, but this one sings. The angle and the slice of 
real world to left of frame make it special.

Paul
Paul, I rarely -take- photos of art - that is, of art alone, without the 
viewers of it being my real subject..  I'd have probably brought in more 
of the surrounding area had the sky not been a flat white that was 
mostly burnt out.  Was restricted in where I could stand too because of 
scaffolding across the street from it.

ann

On Nov 20, 2020, at 8:34 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Today on 11th street at 1st ave..

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2020-New-York-at-home-and-on-silent-streets/i-NwG29F3/A

just a grab with my P&S but nice to see coming back from my grocery haul...
vastly nicer to look at than the pathetic outdoor restaurant efforts.

ann

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Re: PESO: harrier portrait

2020-11-21 Thread ann sanfedele

It's lovely, Subash

ann

On 11/21/2020 4:25 AM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

all i've got to show for a saturday morning's birding:

http://something-feathered.in/2020/11/21/harrier-portrait/

montagu's harrier (female)...

k3ii and sigma 150-500 OS HSM @500 mm, handheld. cropped image.



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Re: Peso: Notorious

2020-11-21 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 20:33:48 -0500 ann sanfedele wrote:
>
>Today on 11th street at 1st ave..
>
>https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2020-New-York-at-home-and-on-silent-streets/i-NwG29F3/A
>
>just a grab with my P&S but nice to see coming back from my grocery haul...
>
>vastly nicer to look at than the pathetic outdoor restaurant efforts.

Indeed, quite a nice view it is ...

Regards, JvW


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Re: GESO: THe Signs Gone By Calendar photos FS FRiday of course :-)

2020-11-21 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 15:45:08 -0500 ann sanfedele wrote:
>
>OOOH thanks my friend!   I do get a better cut from Create Photo calendars 
>than cafepress.

Good!

>How you doing?  Glad to see ya, as it were..

I'm doing fine, but spending more time with my guitars than with photography 
lately ;-)

So did not participate in the last couple of PUG's either.
But I am sure I will get back to that at some point.

Have a Botswana photo safari planned for october 2021 ;-)

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Re: PESO: harrier portrait

2020-11-21 Thread Toine
More than enough :) Excellent

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 at 10:26, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
>
> all i've got to show for a saturday morning's birding:
>
> http://something-feathered.in/2020/11/21/harrier-portrait/
>
> montagu's harrier (female)...
>
> k3ii and sigma 150-500 OS HSM @500 mm, handheld. cropped image.
>
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OT - Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time.

2020-11-21 Thread Bulent Celasun
I used to have an Epson Stylus Photo Inkjet Printer (Probably R2880)
which was using Ultrachrome K3 ink set. The print quality, even on
common garden papers, was above my expectations and I had no problems
ever when it was operational. Due entirely to my long neglect,
clogging problem killed that printer.

Now I have an Epson L805, a simpler and cheaper model with a cheaper
(read, lower quality) ink set (EcoTank).

I have quite a stock of inkjet printing paper (mostly Kodak, labelled
as premium, ultra etc). Unfortunately, my recent L805 ink set
(especially the dark tones) is notoriusly late to dry. A fairly dark
print takes more than a week to dry. Even then, if you put a glass on
top, there are little foci that stick (or, if you press some plain
paper on the image you still see a few ink droplets transferred to the
paper).

Original Epson inkjet papers are very expensive and practically
unavailable. There is only the A3 size (not suitable for my L805) and
it is sold for about 3 dollars each. I guess there should be no ink
drying problem if one can use those.

Now, here is my question:
Can I do anything "after printing to an ordinary inkjet photo paper"
to make it dry quicker AND completely without damaging the image?
Would sunlight or heat or wind or ... work?

By the way, the printer accepts a command to print on a no-name card
and uses somewhat less ink for that (on the premise that it may not
absorb the ink well). So, there is practically nothing I can do
"before" printing.

Comments and help appreciated.

Bulent
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Re: PESO: harrier portrait

2020-11-21 Thread Bob Pdml
Superb!

> On 21 Nov 2020, at 09:26, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> all i've got to show for a saturday morning's birding:
> 
> http://something-feathered.in/2020/11/21/harrier-portrait/
> 
> montagu's harrier (female)...
> 
> k3ii and sigma 150-500 OS HSM @500 mm, handheld. cropped image.
> 
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PESO: harrier portrait

2020-11-21 Thread Subash Jeyan
all i've got to show for a saturday morning's birding:

http://something-feathered.in/2020/11/21/harrier-portrait/

montagu's harrier (female)...

k3ii and sigma 150-500 OS HSM @500 mm, handheld. cropped image.

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