Re: Choosing long telephoto lens
On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:39 , Theodore Beilby wrote: Most of my aircraft in flight shots were taken with my F 100 - 300 hand held. Those of you who know me know that I have very shaky hands. Sometimes, I hang my monopod under the camera. I do this with the head locks loose so the monopod is free to swing if I want to go to portrait orientation. I do not extend the leg, it is just there for mass to overcome the tendency for the camera to be moved. It seems to help me be more steady but does get some strange looks from other photographers. I don't know if anyone has ever used this technique before but I have used it this way many times. I've tried that, but the combination of weights tires one quickly. The lightest anti-shake trick I've used was something I read long ago in some photo magazine. Buy yourself a 1/4 20 eye bolt, the shortest thread length you can find (not important, just neater) and tie eight feet of most any kind of heavyweight string to the bolt. Put the string in your pocket Mount that bolt on your camera's tripod socket. When you are ready to shoot something that needs that steadying, pull the string out of your pocket and drop it on the ground. Hold the camera a bit lower of where you usually do. Step on the string, raise the camera so there is some, but not much, tension on the string, and shoot! That little bit of tug can overcome at least some of the photographer's unsteadiness. And it weighs nothing. There are a couple in my bag all the time. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 3, 2011, at 14:52 , Ken Waller wrote: Tamron 300/2.8s are going for less than those prices these days. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I have the Tamron 300 ƒ2.8 in AF form, and it is needing a tripod with a sandbag hanging, and a 5 x 7 bag full of lead shot draped over the top of the camera to guarantee sharpness, especially if you've got a 1.4x or 2.0 x tele-converter hung. Nonetheless, I have shot with it handheld on many occasions with from very fine to lousy imaging. Wide open is gives you a lot of CA. ƒ4.5 ~ 8.0 it is at it's best. If you are young and strong and steady, you'll get many more keepers than I can come up with. If you could look through my finder when I'm trying to shoot a static object handheld. Even the anti-shake can't overcome the movements that happen no matter how hard I relax and breath out half way before tripping the shutter. My 2 cents. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I had the M 300 4.0, i.e., no tripod mount on the lens. I just couldn't get much use out of it and sold it. At minimum, you would need to buy some kind of cradle to use a tripod for best results. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at 14:52 , Ken Waller wrote: Tamron 300/2.8s are going for less than those prices these days. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I have the Tamron 300 ƒ2.8 in AF form, and it is needing a tripod with a sandbag hanging, and a 5 x 7 bag full of lead shot draped over the top of the camera to guarantee sharpness, especially if you've got a 1.4x or 2.0 x tele-converter hung. Nonetheless, I have shot with it handheld on many occasions with from very fine to lousy imaging. Wide open is gives you a lot of CA. ƒ4.5 ~ 8.0 it is at it's best. If you are young and strong and steady, you'll get many more keepers than I can come up with. If you could look through my finder when I'm trying to shoot a static object handheld. Even the anti-shake can't overcome the movements that happen no matter how hard I relax and breath out half way before tripping the shutter. My 2 cents. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). Tamron 300/2.8s are going for less than those prices these days. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It all depends on what you consider decent. M*300 f4.0 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20gowithit.html A*300 f4.0 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20jamesmadison.html Actually I cheated on the A*300 shot I used a shoulder stock with a pistol grip. Sure they're not the best examples but I think they're acceptable. The statue by the way was a test of the newly repaired lens. On 4/4/2011 11:11 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). Tamron 300/2.8s are going for less than those prices these days. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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mike wilson wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 4, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: mike wilson wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) ann I agree. Handholding a 300mm is entirely possible, given enough shutter speed and a steady hand. I took these handheld with the A400/5.6, a lens I regularly use handheld: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12808354size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12166314size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10944323 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. These are all DA*300/4 hand-held. And I would consider myself handicapped a bit by shooting a K10D, which I like to keep at quite low ISO settings. 2 more stops would be a nice improvement in DOF and/or motion blur. http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2917327644/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2923337146/ (with Tamron 1.4x TC) http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2923372150/ (with Tamron 1.4x TC) http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2883706548/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/3707902187/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/3705394337/ (By incandescent bathroom lighting) Tamron 70-300 at 300mm: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2525886350/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Paul Stenquist wrote: On Apr 4, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: mike wilson wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) ann I agree. Handholding a 300mm is entirely possible, given enough shutter speed and a steady hand. I took these handheld with the A400/5.6, a lens I regularly use handheld: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12808354size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12166314size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10944323 Of course you have a steady hand Paul... so that's cheating :-) I hoped to be reassuring cause I could do it and I DONT have a steady hand ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 04/04/2011 18:57, Ann Sanfedele wrote: mike wilson wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) The exception (with others) that prove my rule. 8-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2011-04-04 12:25, mike wilson wrote: On 04/04/2011 18:57, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) The exception (with others) that prove my rule. 8-) 300mm is eminently hand-holdable, as long as your shutter speed is high enough. Shooting at 1/1000th it's easy-peasy, even on APS-C. Shooting at 1/250th on an APS-C sensor takes a little practice. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. I hand hold my Sigma 300 F4, and you have seen my pictures.:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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An important fact also is where you anticipate using it. Shooting from a parked car/nearby or in a sports arena is where the bulk/weight isn't as much an issue as using it in the bush where you might be hauling it around to follow the wildlife - like I did on numerous occasions with my 600mm kit in Denali. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On Apr 3, 2011, at 14:52 , Ken Waller wrote: Tamron 300/2.8s are going for less than those prices these days. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I have the Tamron 300 ƒ2.8 in AF form, and it is needing a tripod with a sandbag hanging, and a 5 x 7 bag full of lead shot draped over the top of the camera to guarantee sharpness, especially if you've got a 1.4x or 2.0 x tele-converter hung. Nonetheless, I have shot with it handheld on many occasions with from very fine to lousy imaging. Wide open is gives you a lot of CA. ƒ4.5 ~ 8.0 it is at it's best. If you are young and strong and steady, you'll get many more keepers than I can come up with. If you could look through my finder when I'm trying to shoot a static object handheld. Even the anti-shake can't overcome the movements that happen no matter how hard I relax and breath out half way before tripping the shutter. My 2 cents. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 2011-04-04 12:25, mike wilson wrote: On 04/04/2011 18:57, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) The exception (with others) that prove my rule. 8-) 300mm is eminently hand-holdable, as long as your shutter speed is high enough. Shooting at 1/1000th it's easy-peasy, even on APS-C. Shooting at 1/250th on an APS-C sensor takes a little practice. There's a fairly big difference in bulk weight between a 300 f2.8 a 300 f4.5. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). Tamron 300/2.8s are going for less than those prices these days. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. I think you'd loose that argument. While I agree mouinting a 300 f4.5 to a tripod is preferred, hand holding the same lens can give perfectly satisfactory results - check out the 300mm f4.5 FA section of the PPG sometime. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mike and Kenneth I did check out the FA 4.5 300mm at PentaxForums. And @ Photozone reveiw (IIRC). This lens is not realy a competition to niether the DA or the F vessions of a 300mm F4 or 4.5, which are better choises, I believe. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 4, 2011 20:21 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). Tamron 300/2.8s are going for less than those prices these days. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. I think you'd loose that argument. While I agree mouinting a 300 f4.5 to a tripod is preferred, hand holding the same lens can give perfectly satisfactory results - check out the 300mm f4.5 FA section of the PPG sometime. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for sharing these photographs... Regareds jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 4, 2011 19:06 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. These are all DA*300/4 hand-held. And I would consider myself handicapped a bit by shooting a K10D, which I like to keep at quite low ISO settings. 2 more stops would be a nice improvement in DOF and/or motion blur. http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2917327644/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2923337146/ (with Tamron 1.4x TC) http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2923372150/ (with Tamron 1.4x TC) http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2883706548/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/3707902187/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/3705394337/ (By incandescent bathroom lighting) Tamron 70-300 at 300mm: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2525886350/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Brilliant. Thanks for sharing, Ann. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 4, 2011 18:57 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: mike wilson wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critte rs/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Most of my aircraft in flight shots were taken with my F 100 - 300 hand held. Those of you who know me know that I have very shaky hands. Sometimes, I hang my monopod under the camera. I do this with the head locks loose so the monopod is free to swing if I want to go to portrait orientation. I do not extend the leg, it is just there for mass to overcome the tendency for the camera to be moved. It seems to help me be more steady but does get some strange looks from other photographers. I don't know if anyone has ever used this technique before but I have used it this way many times. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oddly, I could use my old 100-300 hand held. I was just never pleased with the results of the 300 f4. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Most of my aircraft in flight shots were taken with my F 100 - 300 hand held. Those of you who know me know that I have very shaky hands. Sometimes, I hang my monopod under the camera. I do this with the head locks loose so the monopod is free to swing if I want to go to portrait orientation. I do not extend the leg, it is just there for mass to overcome the tendency for the camera to be moved. It seems to help me be more steady but does get some strange looks from other photographers. I don't know if anyone has ever used this technique before but I have used it this way many times. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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[...] I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More- Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) ann I love stuff like that. One of my friends, right up until he was about 45 and I corrected him, thought it was a doggy-dog world. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 05:11:08PM +0200, mike wilson wrote: I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. A bit of an exaggeration. This wouldn't be good enough for a 30x20 print, but it does OK: http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0929 I gave up trying to use the monopod - it was hindering - and just shot hand-held instead. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:17:05PM -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 2011-04-04 12:25, mike wilson wrote: On 04/04/2011 18:57, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) The exception (with others) that prove my rule. 8-) 300mm is eminently hand-holdable, as long as your shutter speed is high enough. Shooting at 1/1000th it's easy-peasy, even on APS-C. Shooting at 1/250th on an APS-C sensor takes a little practice. There's a fairly big difference in bulk weight between a 300 f2.8 a 300 f4.5. I find the extra weight of a 300/2.8 helps to prevent some camera shake. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David J Brooks wrote: On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 03/04/2011 23:52, Ken Waller wrote: I would argue that there isn't a 300mm made that is hand holdable, if you want to take decent pictures. I hand hold my Sigma 300 F4, and you have seen my pictures.:-) Dave so you point was??? (ann ducks) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Glad you like it , Jens... It was one of the first I took with that lens... and I do have image stabilization, which sure helps I love that lens - highly recommend ann Jens wrote: Brilliant. Thanks for sharing, Ann. Regards Jens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've used a collapsed lightweight tripod that way ... using it as a grip or bracking one of the legs on my belt ,, does seem to help ann Theodore Beilby wrote: Most of my aircraft in flight shots were taken with my F 100 - 300 hand held. Those of you who know me know that I have very shaky hands. Sometimes, I hang my monopod under the camera. I do this with the head locks loose so the monopod is free to swing if I want to go to portrait orientation. I do not extend the leg, it is just there for mass to overcome the tendency for the camera to be moved. It seems to help me be more steady but does get some strange looks from other photographers. I don't know if anyone has ever used this technique before but I have used it this way many times. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My very favorite of that sort is from a friend of mine whose friend said to her Why do they call in public hair when it's so private? ann Bob W wrote: [...] I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More- Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) ann I love stuff like that. One of my friends, right up until he was about 45 and I corrected him, thought it was a doggy-dog world. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Francis jo...@panix.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:17:05PM -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 2011-04-04 12:25, mike wilson wrote: On 04/04/2011 18:57, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) The exception (with others) that prove my rule. 8-) 300mm is eminently hand-holdable, as long as your shutter speed is high enough. Shooting at 1/1000th it's easy-peasy, even on APS-C. Shooting at 1/250th on an APS-C sensor takes a little practice. There's a fairly big difference in bulk weight between a 300 f2.8 a 300 f4.5. I find the extra weight of a 300/2.8 helps to prevent some camera shake. A good point I wouldn't challange, but what about after a few hours use ? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 04:05:26PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Francis jo...@panix.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:17:05PM -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 2011-04-04 12:25, mike wilson wrote: On 04/04/2011 18:57, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I took this hand held ... with the DA 55-300... the 55-300 is very light weight ... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_6QmYN/1/1187950299_FDCdG/Large I think it passes muster or, as I said as a child (pass the mustard) The exception (with others) that prove my rule. 8-) 300mm is eminently hand-holdable, as long as your shutter speed is high enough. Shooting at 1/1000th it's easy-peasy, even on APS-C. Shooting at 1/250th on an APS-C sensor takes a little practice. There's a fairly big difference in bulk weight between a 300 f2.8 a 300 f4.5. I find the extra weight of a 300/2.8 helps to prevent some camera shake. A good point I wouldn't challange, but what about after a few hours use ? No argument here - just making an observation. I'll hand-hold the 300/2.8 occasionally, but most of the time I'll have it on a monopod (I don't actually have a tripod that will do it justice). I've used my 80-200 with a 1.4 adapter (and maybe even with the 1.7x) when I wanted something a bit lighter, and more amenable to hand-holding. Mind you, it's stretching things to call that a light-weight setup :-) There was one guy I used to see at the track who regularly shot using a hand-held 400/2.8! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11-04-04 2:39 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote: Most of my aircraft in flight shots were taken with my F 100 - 300 hand held. Those of you who know me know that I have very shaky hands. Sometimes, I hang my monopod under the camera. I do this with the head locks loose so the monopod is free to swing if I want to go to portrait orientation. I do not extend the leg, it is just there for mass to overcome the tendency for the camera to be moved. It seems to help me be more steady but does get some strange looks from other photographers. I don't know if anyone has ever used this technique before but I have used it this way many times. Now *every* swinging monopod is going to be doing that. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). Thanks Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). Tamron 300/2.8s are going for less than those prices these days. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? I don't have any experience with the others, but the DA*300/4 is an astonishingly good lens, right from f/4. I have literally found nothing to complain about, optically, and I'm good at complaining. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Back in 2009 I developed the same itch and eventually bought a Tokina SL-400 F5.6 on eBay. It's a total pain in the butt to work with but there are a few things you can't photograph any other way.. A few samples at http://www.google.com/search?as_q=tokinaas_sitesearch=tbray.org, none of them really excellent, so either it wasn't a good choice or I just haven't tried hard enough. -Tim On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). Thanks Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 03/04/2011 10:04 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Back in 2009 I developed the same itch and eventually bought a Tokina SL-400 F5.6 on eBay. It's a total pain in the butt to work with but there are a few things you can't photograph any other way.. A few samples at http://www.google.com/search?as_q=tokinaas_sitesearch=tbray.org, none of them really excellent, so either it wasn't a good choice or I just haven't tried hard enough. -Tim I think I had one of those at one time. It was incredible on film, but for some reason this didn't translate to good on digital, so I bought a Pentax A400/5.6 and sold the Tokina. As an aside, the guy who commented that Hoya owns Tokina is most likely wrong about it. The best I've ever been able to come up with regarding the Hoya/Tokina relationship is that they share a few board members, and that they were distributed by the same company at one time. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 4/3/2011 5:32 AM, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). I don't think there is a F 300mm 4.0. The F version of the FA 300mm 4.5 however shares the same optical design and has a built in tripod mount that the FA lacks. I've never used one but there was much love for that lens in either iteration on the list a few years back, BD. You might also look for a SMC A* or M* f4.0. They're almost affordable when compared to their auto-focus brethren. The A* is particularly nice paired with a AF 1.7x adapter. The M is almost as good as you'll probably be shooting wide open a lot and lack of automation won't matter too much. Thanks Jens -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The cosmetics on that Tokina look amazingly like my TX interchangeable mount Vivitar 400mm f5.6. Not a bad lens though I doubt that they share much in the way of optics. Tokina made a lot of internal changes during the years it was produced. On 4/3/2011 12:04 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Back in 2009 I developed the same itch and eventually bought a Tokina SL-400 F5.6 on eBay. It's a total pain in the butt to work with but there are a few things you can't photograph any other way.. A few samples at http://www.google.com/search?as_q=tokinaas_sitesearch=tbray.org, none of them really excellent, so either it wasn't a good choice or I just haven't tried hard enough. -Tim On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Jensp...@planfoto.dk wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). Thanks Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks PJ. I alreay got the M* 300 F4. It's a wonderful lens. But I want AF :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Apr 3, 2011 19:22 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/3/2011 5:32 AM, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). I don't think there is a F 300mm 4.0. The F version of the FA 300mm 4.5 however shares the same optical design and has a built in tripod mount that the FA lacks. I've never used one but there was much love for that lens in either iteration on the list a few years back, BD. You might also look for a SMC A* or M* f4.0. They're almost affordable when compared to their auto-focus brethren. The A* is particularly nice paired with a AF 1.7x adapter. The M is almost as good as you'll probably be shooting wide open a lot and lack of automation won't matter too much. Thanks Jens -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Choosing long telephoto lens
2011/4/3 Jens p...@planfoto.dk: Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). It really is a full frame lens though, without aperture ring it serverly limits its use. Depends the bodies you own.. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Choosing long telephoto lens
Jens - I have had the 300mm f4.5 FA for the last 13 years IIRC, and I highly recommend it. The major rap against it is the lack of tripod collar, but I've found it to be a non issue. Its easy to hand hold IMO. I've used it in all sorts of weather, from below freezing to around 100 Degrees F with absolutely no issues at all. It has no clearance access in the hood for adjusting a polarizer filter and the hood is stored in reverse orientation on the body. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk Subject: Choosing long telephoto lens Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). Thanks Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Choosing long telephoto lens
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: Choosing long telephoto lens On 03/04/2011 11:32, Jens wrote: Hi list Opinions wanted. I have been wanting a long telphoto lens for some time. For supplementing my FA 2.8 80-200mm. Looking at ebay I can chose from two excellent lenses: Sigma EX 100-300mm F4 ( perhaps 600-800 Euros)- not DG but for full frame (still got many film SLR's). Pentax DA 300mm F4 (offered to me for 750 Euros) - digital only (APS-C). I am leaning towards the Sigma lens because of the zoom, I guess I'll use this one more often. Is the Pentax DA lens so much better, that I should forget about the zooming options? Actually there's a FA 300mm F4.5 too - but I dont know anything about this lens. Does anyone know anything about the FA? I guess the price will be almost the same - apr. 1000 USD. And there's (always) the SMC F 300mm F4 too - but currently one is for sale (BIN) for 1200 Euros (close to 1800 USD, which is too steep for me). Tamron 300/2.8s are going for less than those prices these days. Thats good news but you should be prepared for the extra bulk and weight of it over say a 300 f4.5FA. I haven't shot with the Tamron but it is defimitely not as hand-holdable as the 4.5. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Choosing long telephoto lens
On 2011-04-03 17:47, Ken Waller wrote: Jens - I have had the 300mm f4.5 FA for the last 13 years IIRC, and I highly recommend it. The major rap against it is the lack of tripod collar, but I've found it to be a non issue. Its easy to hand hold IMO. I got the F version specifically for the tripod collar. I don't use it on a tripod very often, but find it useful to hold the lens by the tripod collar and put my elbow on my beer belly to steady things when shooting at the auto races. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
