Re: Filter questions - thx

2001-08-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Peter Lacus wrote:

 Shel, I think inner surface (surface 
 facing to the lens) doesn't have to
 be coated because of polarization, but 
 not coated front surface will IMHO 
 reflect much more light than multicoated one.

Well, I was only repeating what B+W had to say. And the front surface
of B+W filters are coated, just not multi-coated.  B+W specific -
~multi-coating~ is not needed.
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Vs: Filter questions - thx

2001-08-01 Thread Raimo Korhonen

I have Hoya HMC Skylight filter on my 3.5-4.5/24-90 and it seems to work very well 
indeed: no flare, no visible effect on sharpness.
All the best!
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Aihe: Re: Filter questions - thx


In a message dated 7/31/01 9:09:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sorry Hoya. I have never seen a Hoya filter, just the
 only opinion I had heard about them (from this list)
 was that they were junk. But then, I use COZO filters
 and are extremely happy with them, whereas most people
 have probably not heard of them. I have never seen
 them mentioned.
 
 Jody. 

HOYA filters are as much as 99.99% as effective as B+W filters and at 40-50% 
of the cost of a comparative B+W filter, particularly HOYA HMC filters. 

Mafud



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Re: Filter questions - thx

2001-07-31 Thread Peter Lacus

Alan Chan wrote:

 Funny you mention B+W. I remember I read somewhere mentioned B+W CIR-PL was
 coated, but I looked and looked, my B+W CIR-PL does not look like coated at
 all.

Excerpt from http://www.schneideroptics.com/filters/mc.htm

B+W polarizers are available with optional multi-coating: the nature of
polarization renders the single anti-reflection coating unnecessary.

I found very interesting second part of this statement. Strangely, top
of the line of B+W filters recommended by Schneider for professional use
(Kaesemann version) is without any coating at all.

Peter
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Re: Filter questions - thx

2001-07-31 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Peter Lacus wrote:
 
 Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
 
  No polaroid filter is coated.
 
 sorry, but my B+W top-pol filter is certainly multi-coated. 

Accordinmg to B+W, because of the way pol filters work, there is no
~need~ for them to be multi-coated, but they are offered that way.
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Re: Filter questions - thx

2001-07-31 Thread petit miam

Sorry Hoya. I have never seen a Hoya filter, just the
only opinion I had heard about them (from this list)
was that they were junk. But then, I use COZO filters
and are extremely happy with them, whereas most people
have probably not heard of them. I have never seen
them mentioned.

Jody.

--- Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I too don't think Pentax filters were made by Hoya
 (but not impossibe 
 because Hoya is the largest Japanese glass
 manufacturer), but Hoya filters 
 aren't crap either IMO. I have a B+W CIR-PL and I
 don't see it was so much 
 superior to HOYA. Okay, HOYA's HMC coating is poor
 alright, but their 
 glasses are fine.
 
 regards,
 Alan Chan
 
 I doubt they were Pentax and made by Hoya. That
 just
 doesn't make sense. Pentax don't make cheap and
 nasty
 crap.


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Re: Filter questions - thx

2001-07-31 Thread ZawadiMedia

In a message dated 7/31/01 9:09:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sorry Hoya. I have never seen a Hoya filter, just the
 only opinion I had heard about them (from this list)
 was that they were junk. But then, I use COZO filters
 and are extremely happy with them, whereas most people
 have probably not heard of them. I have never seen
 them mentioned.
 
 Jody. 

HOYA filters are as much as 99.99% as effective as B+W filters and at 40-50% 
of the cost of a comparative B+W filter, particularly HOYA HMC filters. 

Mafud

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Re: Filter questions - thx

2001-07-30 Thread Peter Lacus

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 I tried - and was quite impressed by - the Pentax SMC filters.  Even
 the photogs and sales people at the local camera shop were impressed.
 I'm now in the process of getting one of every Pentax filter in every
 size they make.

speaking of filters - what does SMC Pentax Cloudy filter with colors?
It's some kind of warming filter? Could someone compare effects of
Cloudy vs Skylight filters, please?

TIA,

Peter
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Re: Filter questions - thx

2001-07-30 Thread Alexander Krohe

--- Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
  I tried - and was quite impressed by - the Pentax
 SMC filters.  Even
  the photogs and sales people at the local camera
 shop were impressed.
  I'm now in the process of getting one of every
 Pentax filter in every
  size they make.

Yes, I agree. I have several SMC filters and their
flare resistance is outstanding. 
(btw they look very different from Hoya filters) 
 
 speaking of filters - what does SMC Pentax Cloudy
 filter with colors?
 It's some kind of warming filter? Could someone
 compare effects of
 Cloudy vs Skylight filters, please?
 
 TIA,
 
It's an 81A warming (brownish) filter. It is a tiny
bit denser than a 1A skylight.  
Enjoy, 
Alexander




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Re: Filter questions - thx

2001-07-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Alexander Krohe wrote:

 Yes, I agree. I have several SMC filters and their
 flare resistance is outstanding.
 (btw they look very different from Hoya filters)

Some people have surmised that Hoya makes the Pentax filters.  I do
not believe that this is true.  However, Hoya may well make the glass
for Pentax filters.  They make glass for many companies.  However,
this glass may be made to Pentax specs (optical companies often
provide specs for the glass they use), or Pentax may be buying it off
the shelf.  However, the coatings are definitely not typical of Hoya,
and the construction is different as well.
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Re: Filter questions - thx

2001-07-30 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

No polaroid filter is coated. The polarize light by be eched
with a myriad of very fine lines, coating would fill in those
lines and defeat the purpose of the filter.
--Tom


Dan Scott wrote:
 
 Shel wrote:
 
 I tried - and was quite impressed by - the Pentax SMC filters.  Even
 the photogs and sales people at the local camera shop were impressed.
 I'm now in the process of getting one of every Pentax filter in every
 size they make.
 
 Hi Shel,
 
 I've been meaning to ask you for a long(er) term review since you've had
 a chance to use them for awhile. I know you've said the HMC filters are a
 pain to clean, how durable and easy to clean have the Pentax filters been
 under regular use?
 
 Also, I've looked around on BH's website and a few others, but I haven't
 found out whether Pentax has SMC available on any of their polarized
 filters--have you come across any?
 
 Thanks,
 Dan Scott
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Re: Filter questions - thx

2001-07-29 Thread krytu

Thanks to everyone who replied.
I decided not to buy Pentax filters made by Hoya - think it`s better to 
get B+W or original ones.
Kryt


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