Re: For MZ-S Owners

[Zos Xavius]

Eric might be able to help you with that. Yeah judging from your
picture I'm a little surprised it even loads film to be honest.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> I put a few rolls through the camera and have figured out what that extra
> roller does - apparently it helps with loading the film.
>
> So far I have experienced one roll would not load at all - it would start to
> get engaged with the sprockets on the take up spool but would pop loose.
> Tried several times but the camera would pull out about an inch of film and
> then lose its grip on the leader. All of the other rolls have the end of the
> film folded back, so there is about 1/4th of an inch at the very end of the
> roll where the emulsion side is facing out, not in like it should.  Not sure
> that is a problem but I did have one roll unexpectedly rewind halfway done.
> These were all canisters that I hand rolled from bulk film, and I am not too
> meticulous about cutting the notch at the end of the film. I have had the
> unexpected rewind a could times in the past with bulk roll. Its rare but
> possibly not related to the loading issue.  I experimented with some
> commercial rolls and found that if the film leader is placed in just the
> right location it loads just fine -  but if it is put in just a little to
> far it also folds over.
>
> So I either need to figure out how to get the roller back on or look for a
> repair shop.
>
> Mark
>
> On 8/23/2016 7:56 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>
>> i'm guessing that isn't 100% necessary. your film flatness might
>> suffer a little though, but the backing plate should help with that.
>>
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Re: For MZ-S Owners

[Mark C]

I put a few rolls through the camera and have figured out what that 
extra roller does - apparently it helps with loading the film.


So far I have experienced one roll would not load at all - it would 
start to get engaged with the sprockets on the take up spool but would 
pop loose. Tried several times but the camera would pull out about an 
inch of film and then lose its grip on the leader. All of the other 
rolls have the end of the film folded back, so there is about 1/4th of 
an inch at the very end of the roll where the emulsion side is facing 
out, not in like it should.  Not sure that is a problem but I did have 
one roll unexpectedly rewind halfway done. These were all canisters that 
I hand rolled from bulk film, and I am not too meticulous about cutting 
the notch at the end of the film. I have had the unexpected rewind a 
could times in the past with bulk roll. Its rare but possibly not 
related to the loading issue.  I experimented with some commercial rolls 
and found that if the film leader is placed in just the right location 
it loads just fine -  but if it is put in just a little to far it also 
folds over.


So I either need to figure out how to get the roller back on or look for 
a repair shop.


Mark

On 8/23/2016 7:56 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:

i'm guessing that isn't 100% necessary. your film flatness might
suffer a little though, but the backing plate should help with that.




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Re: For MZ-S Owners

[Zos Xavius]

i'm guessing that isn't 100% necessary. your film flatness might
suffer a little though, but the backing plate should help with that.


On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I totally forgot! I will try to remember today. Glad its working though!!
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:
>> Thanks, Zos. I tested the camera with the one remaining roller and it seems
>> to work just fine. I'm not sure if I even need to try and repair it, but it
>> may be as simple as just snapping the loose part back into place.
>>
>> Here are photos of the roller as it is now and the part that broke off:
>>
>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/mz-s-film-roller?blog=9
>>
>> IIRC the broken off piece wraps around the first roller, so both press of
>> the film. I haven't figured out how it snaps on though - maybe another part
>> got lost when I opened the camera.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On 8/22/2016 10:19 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>>
>>> i can do this when i get home if it helps. sorry i didn't see this
>>> earlier.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That would be great - I want to test it without the missing part and see
>>>> if
>>>> it makes a difference anyhow. Many thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/19/2016 7:38 PM, John Coyle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with
>>>>> film: expect to clear it
>>>>> soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same
>>>>> frame!).
>>>>>
>>>>> John in Brisbane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14
>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>>> Subject: For MZ-S Owners
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up
>>>>> picture of the pressure
>>>>> roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller -
>>>>> some how today when I
>>>>> inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free.
>>>>>
>>>>> The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened
>>>>> the
>>>>> camera to see what was
>>>>> going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film.
>>>>> I'm not sure if that roller
>>>>> is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if
>>>>> possible. I am not even sure
>>>>> I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it
>>>>> seems to be working fine, but
>>>>> I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm
>>>>> thinking the film might not
>>>>> lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: For MZ-S Owners

[Zos Xavius]

I totally forgot! I will try to remember today. Glad its working though!!

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:
> Thanks, Zos. I tested the camera with the one remaining roller and it seems
> to work just fine. I'm not sure if I even need to try and repair it, but it
> may be as simple as just snapping the loose part back into place.
>
> Here are photos of the roller as it is now and the part that broke off:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/mz-s-film-roller?blog=9
>
> IIRC the broken off piece wraps around the first roller, so both press of
> the film. I haven't figured out how it snaps on though - maybe another part
> got lost when I opened the camera.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 8/22/2016 10:19 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>
>> i can do this when i get home if it helps. sorry i didn't see this
>> earlier.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> That would be great - I want to test it without the missing part and see
>>> if
>>> it makes a difference anyhow. Many thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/19/2016 7:38 PM, John Coyle wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with
>>>> film: expect to clear it
>>>> soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same
>>>> frame!).
>>>>
>>>> John in Brisbane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>> Subject: For MZ-S Owners
>>>>
>>>> If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up
>>>> picture of the pressure
>>>> roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller -
>>>> some how today when I
>>>> inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free.
>>>>
>>>> The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened
>>>> the
>>>> camera to see what was
>>>> going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film.
>>>> I'm not sure if that roller
>>>> is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if
>>>> possible. I am not even sure
>>>> I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it
>>>> seems to be working fine, but
>>>> I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm
>>>> thinking the film might not
>>>> lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: For MZ-S Owners

[Mark C]

Thanks, Zos. I tested the camera with the one remaining roller and it 
seems to work just fine. I'm not sure if I even need to try and repair 
it, but it may be as simple as just snapping the loose part back into place.


Here are photos of the roller as it is now and the part that broke off:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/mz-s-film-roller?blog=9

IIRC the broken off piece wraps around the first roller, so both press 
of the film. I haven't figured out how it snaps on though - maybe 
another part got lost when I opened the camera.


Thanks

Mark

On 8/22/2016 10:19 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:

i can do this when i get home if it helps. sorry i didn't see this earlier.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:

That would be great - I want to test it without the missing part and see if
it makes a difference anyhow. Many thanks!


On 8/19/2016 7:38 PM, John Coyle wrote:

Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with
film: expect to clear it
soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same
frame!).

John in Brisbane



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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C
Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: For MZ-S Owners

If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up
picture of the pressure
roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller -
some how today when I
inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free.

The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened the
camera to see what was
going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film.
I'm not sure if that roller
is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if
possible. I am not even sure
I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it
seems to be working fine, but
I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm
thinking the film might not
lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film.

Thanks!

Mark




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Re: For MZ-S Owners

[Zos Xavius]

i can do this when i get home if it helps. sorry i didn't see this earlier.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:
> That would be great - I want to test it without the missing part and see if
> it makes a difference anyhow. Many thanks!
>
>
> On 8/19/2016 7:38 PM, John Coyle wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with
>> film: expect to clear it
>> soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same
>> frame!).
>>
>> John in Brisbane
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C
>> Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>> Subject: For MZ-S Owners
>>
>> If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up
>> picture of the pressure
>> roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller -
>> some how today when I
>> inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free.
>>
>> The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened the
>> camera to see what was
>> going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film.
>> I'm not sure if that roller
>> is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if
>> possible. I am not even sure
>> I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it
>> seems to be working fine, but
>> I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm
>> thinking the film might not
>> lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
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Re: For MZ-S Owners

[Mark C]

That would be great - I want to test it without the missing part and see 
if it makes a difference anyhow. Many thanks!


On 8/19/2016 7:38 PM, John Coyle wrote:

Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with film: 
expect to clear it
soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same frame!).

John in Brisbane



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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C
Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: For MZ-S Owners

If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up picture 
of the pressure
roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller - some 
how today when I
inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free.

The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened the 
camera to see what was
going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film. I'm not 
sure if that roller
is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if 
possible. I am not even sure
I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it seems to 
be working fine, but
I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm thinking 
the film might not
lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film.

Thanks!

Mark




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RE: For MZ-S Owners

[John Coyle]

Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with film: 
expect to clear it
soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same frame!).

John in Brisbane



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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C
Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: For MZ-S Owners

If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up picture 
of the pressure
roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller - some 
how today when I
inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free.

The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened the 
camera to see what was
going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film. I'm not 
sure if that roller
is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if 
possible. I am not even sure
I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it seems to 
be working fine, but
I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm thinking 
the film might not
lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film.

Thanks!

Mark




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For MZ-S Owners

[Mark C]

If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up 
picture of the pressure roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It 
is a two part roller - some how today when I inserted a roll of film the 
outer roller broke free.


The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened 
the camera to see what was going on, the outer roller was just sitting 
on top of the roll of film. I'm not sure if that roller is even needed, 
but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if possible. I am 
not even sure I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera 
as is and it seems to be working fine, but I won't know till I shoot it 
out and develop if it is working OK. I'm thinking the film might not lie 
flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film.


Thanks!

Mark




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Bodies Roll Call for future MZ-S owners?

[Mark Erickson]

Albano,

Gonna add an entry to the Bodies Roll Call for those of us who are
definitely going to buy an MZ-S as soon as they become available?

:+)

--Mark

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