Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Excellent choice!

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On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 6:09 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
> > On Aug 31, 2020, at 8:35 AM, John  wrote:
> >
> > On 8/27/2020 23:00:02, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> >> Hi All!
> >> Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots,
> including some great ones.
> >> I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And
> one of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and
> efficient viewing.
> >> I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those
> online, or even did any research on what is available out there.
> >> Igor
> >
> > You can upload something like this to Flickr:
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/9690539472/
>
> That’s very reminiscent of one of mine that I call Piper Club
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/46764798035/
>
> I let our hosts pick a couple of my prints as thank you gifts, and the
> 12x36 metal of this is the one the husband picked.
>
>
> >
> > There may be an upper limit to the size of a panorama you can upload,
> but as far as I can remember, the only reason I didn't upload the full size
> image (3,600 x 10,800) is because to make it so anyone on PDML could see it
> has to be "public" and I think that makes it so anyone can also download it
> [1], and I didn't want to be giving away the full size image.
> >
> > The full size image makes an awesome print.
> >
> > I used to be able to print it full size (12"x36") as a C-print at Costco
> for $5, but the guy who knew how to do that isn't there any more.
>
> It could be worse, my local costco no longer does prints.  The closest one
> that does is like 45 minutes away.
>
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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[Larry Colen]

> On Aug 31, 2020, at 8:35 AM, John  wrote:
> 
> On 8/27/2020 23:00:02, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>> Hi All!
>> Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including 
>> some great ones.
>> I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And one 
>> of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and efficient 
>> viewing.
>> I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those online, 
>> or even did any research on what is available out there.
>> Igor
> 
> You can upload something like this to Flickr:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/9690539472/

That’s very reminiscent of one of mine that I call Piper Club

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/46764798035/

I let our hosts pick a couple of my prints as thank you gifts, and the 12x36 
metal of this is the one the husband picked.


> 
> There may be an upper limit to the size of a panorama you can upload, but as 
> far as I can remember, the only reason I didn't upload the full size image 
> (3,600 x 10,800) is because to make it so anyone on PDML could see it has to 
> be "public" and I think that makes it so anyone can also download it [1], and 
> I didn't want to be giving away the full size image.
> 
> The full size image makes an awesome print.
> 
> I used to be able to print it full size (12"x36") as a C-print at Costco for 
> $5, but the guy who knew how to do that isn't there any more.

It could be worse, my local costco no longer does prints.  The closest one that 
does is like 45 minutes away.


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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[Toine]

Yes a suitable wall is the real problem.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 17:58, John  wrote:

> Any good pro-lab should be able to do the print.
>
> At 30cm wide, how long would it be? I'm guessing about 240cm (2.4m)
>
> I wouldn't try to frame it, just have it mounted on Gator-Board.
>
> https://www.gator-board.com/
>
> The real problem is finding a wall suitable for displaying it after you've
> printed it.
>
> On 8/28/2020 03:45:42, Toine wrote:
> >   > Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at
> least
> > 8" (20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).
> >
> > Yes! I still haven't solved how to print and frame this one:
> > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/panorama/content/no-title-55/lightbox/
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 09:24, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi All!
> >>>
> >>> Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots,
> including
> >> some great ones.
> >>> I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And
> >> one of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and
> >> efficient viewing.
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those
> >> online, or even did any research on what is available out there.
> >>
> >> My feeling is that there really is no good way to display panoramas
> >> online. One might argue that there is no good way to display any photo
> >> online, because you have no control over how it is viewed.  If someone
> is
> >> looking at your photo on a phone the technical quality doesn't really
> >> matter very much, and the artistic quality doesn't matter much more.
> >>
> >> Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at least
> 8"
> >> (20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Igor
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[John]

Any good pro-lab should be able to do the print.

At 30cm wide, how long would it be? I'm guessing about 240cm (2.4m)

I wouldn't try to frame it, just have it mounted on Gator-Board.

https://www.gator-board.com/

The real problem is finding a wall suitable for displaying it after you've 
printed it.


On 8/28/2020 03:45:42, Toine wrote:

  > Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at least
8" (20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).

Yes! I still haven't solved how to print and frame this one:
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/panorama/content/no-title-55/lightbox/

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 09:24, Larry Colen  wrote:





On Aug 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


Hi All!

Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including

some great ones.

I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And

one of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and
efficient viewing.


I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those

online, or even did any research on what is available out there.

My feeling is that there really is no good way to display panoramas
online. One might argue that there is no good way to display any photo
online, because you have no control over how it is viewed.  If someone is
looking at your photo on a phone the technical quality doesn't really
matter very much, and the artistic quality doesn't matter much more.

Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at least 8"
(20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).




Igor





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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

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On 8/27/2020 23:00:02, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Hi All!

Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including some 
great ones.
I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And one of 
the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and efficient viewing.


I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those online, or 
even did any research on what is available out there.



Igor




You can upload something like this to Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/9690539472/

There may be an upper limit to the size of a panorama you can upload, but as far 
as I can remember, the only reason I didn't upload the full size image (3,600 x 
10,800) is because to make it so anyone on PDML could see it has to be "public" 
and I think that makes it so anyone can also download it [1], and I didn't want 
to be giving away the full size image.


The full size image makes an awesome print.

I used to be able to print it full size (12"x36") as a C-print at Costco for $5, 
but the guy who knew how to do that isn't there any more.


[1]Maybe if you get a Pro account you can control that?

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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is quite effective, Alan.

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On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:47 AM Alan C  wrote:

> Igor
>
> I've had considerable success creating Panos in Elements (probably the
> same in the full Photoshop) - cylindrical mode. If displayed at full
> height on the screen, one can scroll L & R at will. I posted this one
> last year:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/49310801512/
> <
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/49310801512/in/datetaken-public/
> >
>
> I don't have Flickr Pro (therefore no control over display size) so you
> would need to download & increase the height to preserve the right
> angles of the road intersections. It is an 8 frame, 360° Pano of the
> intersection by my house.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Alan C
>
>
> On 28-Aug-20 05:00 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> >
> > Hi All!
> >
> > Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots,
> > including some great ones.
> > I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often.
> > And one of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective
> > and efficient viewing.
> >
> > I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those
> > online, or even did any research on what is available out there.
> >
> >
> > Igor
> >
> >
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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[Alan C]

Igor

I've had considerable success creating Panos in Elements (probably the 
same in the full Photoshop) - cylindrical mode. If displayed at full 
height on the screen, one can scroll L & R at will. I posted this one 
last year:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/49310801512/ 



I don't have Flickr Pro (therefore no control over display size) so you 
would need to download & increase the height to preserve the right 
angles of the road intersections. It is an 8 frame, 360° Pano of the 
intersection by my house.


Hope this helps.

Alan C


On 28-Aug-20 05:00 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Hi All!

Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, 
including some great ones.
I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. 
And one of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective 
and efficient viewing.


I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those 
online, or even did any research on what is available out there.



Igor




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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[Toine]

I'm not sure what you need. X3 has something like that (maps)
https://2488.ch/blog/20170403_Europa-Trip_2017/

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 16:28, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
> Thank you, Larry and Toine for your responses.
>
> I am not looking for 360-degrees panos, just the "classical" ones, - some
> 120-240 degrees.
>
> I was asking myself, how would I imagine the "ideal" online interface.
>
> I remember that a few years ago, I've found a software kit called "GMap
> image cutter", https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/casa/gmap-image-cutter ,
> based on the Google Maps API, which generates a bunch
> of tiles at different "zoom"/detail levels, so that you can zoom and pan
> like you do with Google Maps.
> I've done 1 photo that way. (Sorry it was a school photo, so for
> privacy reasons I cannot post it here.)
> Right now, it produces an error, similar to that with the examples from
> authors of that package:
> http://www.casa.ucl.ac.uk/googlemaps/house.html
> I suspect that Google has changed the API and it is not
> backward compatible.
> (I've found some other script(s) that also use Google Maps API, - with the
> same problem.)
>
> I hope there is some functionally similar solution that doesn't depend on
> the Google (or any other) API that might change without a warning.
>
> Igor
>
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi All!
> >
> > Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including
> some
> > great ones.
> > I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And
> one
> > of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and
> efficient
> > viewing.
> >
> > I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those
> online, or
> > even did any research on what is available out there.
> >
> >
> > Igor
> >
> >
>
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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you, Larry and Toine for your responses.

I am not looking for 360-degrees panos, just the "classical" ones, - some 
120-240 degrees.


I was asking myself, how would I imagine the "ideal" online interface.

I remember that a few years ago, I've found a software kit called "GMap
image cutter", https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/casa/gmap-image-cutter ,
based on the Google Maps API, which generates a bunch
of tiles at different "zoom"/detail levels, so that you can zoom and pan
like you do with Google Maps.
I've done 1 photo that way. (Sorry it was a school photo, so for
privacy reasons I cannot post it here.)
Right now, it produces an error, similar to that with the examples from
authors of that package:
http://www.casa.ucl.ac.uk/googlemaps/house.html
I suspect that Google has changed the API and it is not
backward compatible.
(I've found some other script(s) that also use Google Maps API, - with the 
same problem.)


I hope there is some functionally similar solution that doesn't depend on 
the Google (or any other) API that might change without a warning.


Igor



On Thu, 27 Aug 2020, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Hi All!

Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including some 
great ones.
I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And one 
of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and efficient 
viewing.


I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those online, or 
even did any research on what is available out there.



Igor




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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 1:12 AM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> a metal print. never tried that. I want it to be at least 3-4 meter wide :)
> Cost could be a major factor.
> I planned it to be printed on my Epson R2400 for which I have a roll of 10
> meter long

The longest bay can do is 96”, about 2.4m. 25cm x 2.4m would be about $250.  

That should give you an idea of what it would cost to have it done in metal.


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[Toine]

a metal print. never tried that. I want it to be at least 3-4 meter wide :)
Cost could be a major factor.
I planned it to be printed on my Epson R2400 for which I have a roll of 10
meter long

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 10:00, Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
> > On Aug 28, 2020, at 12:45 AM, Toine  wrote:
> >
> >> Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at least
> > 8" (20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).
> >
> > Yes! I still haven't solved how to print and frame this one:
> > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/panorama/content/no-title-55/lightbox/
>
> The good news is that I bet Bay Photo could do it.
>
> The bad news is that they are here and you aren’t.
>
> I’d be willing to bet that almost any high end shop that does metal prints
> could do a print of that one.  There is a minor factor of cost.
>
> The good news about metal prints is they don’t really need to be framed.
>
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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 12:45 AM, Toine  wrote:
> 
>> Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at least
> 8" (20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).
> 
> Yes! I still haven't solved how to print and frame this one:
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/panorama/content/no-title-55/lightbox/

The good news is that I bet Bay Photo could do it.

The bad news is that they are here and you aren’t.

I’d be willing to bet that almost any high end shop that does metal prints 
could do a print of that one.  There is a minor factor of cost.  

The good news about metal prints is they don’t really need to be framed.



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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[Toine]

 > Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at least
8" (20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).

Yes! I still haven't solved how to print and frame this one:
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/panorama/content/no-title-55/lightbox/

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 09:24, Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
> > On Aug 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi All!
> >
> > Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including
> some great ones.
> > I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And
> one of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and
> efficient viewing.
> >
> > I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those
> online, or even did any research on what is available out there.
>
> My feeling is that there really is no good way to display panoramas
> online. One might argue that there is no good way to display any photo
> online, because you have no control over how it is viewed.  If someone is
> looking at your photo on a phone the technical quality doesn't really
> matter very much, and the artistic quality doesn't matter much more.
>
> Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at least 8"
> (20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).
>
> >
> >
> > Igor
> >
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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

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> On Aug 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All!
> 
> Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including some 
> great ones.
> I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And one 
> of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and efficient 
> viewing.
> 
> I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those online, or 
> even did any research on what is available out there.

My feeling is that there really is no good way to display panoramas online. One 
might argue that there is no good way to display any photo online, because you 
have no control over how it is viewed.  If someone is looking at your photo on 
a phone the technical quality doesn't really matter very much, and the artistic 
quality doesn't matter much more.

Good panoramas do seem to benefit from being printed on metal, at least 8" 
(20cm) tall and however wide, preferably 12' (30cm).  

> 
> 
> Igor
> 
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Re: How to present Panoramic photos?

[Toine]

For 360 degrees panos Pano2VR is the best option. Or use a webplayer /
plugin. X3 Pro from www.photo.gallery is one of many.
I had everything up and running in flash players which isn't working today.


On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 05:00, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
> Hi All!
>
> Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including
> some great ones.
> I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And
> one of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and
> efficient viewing.
>
> I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those
> online, or even did any research on what is available out there.
>
>
> Igor
>
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How to present Panoramic photos?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi All!

Some PDMLers have been shooting and producing panoramic shots, including 
some great ones.
I like panoramas, and I occasionally make them, but not very often. And 
one of the reasons is I don't know how to post them for effective and 
efficient viewing.


I was wondering if anybody has found any good way to display those 
online, or even did any research on what is available out there.



Igor


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