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Congratulations, Cotty. I have more modern version of this lens (M-mount, RF-coupled, and takes front filters) which I absolutely love on my Ricoh GXR-M. I am sure it will serve you well. On 9/28/2013 1:09 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: ...and I'm even wearing my PDML 'You can never have too many lenses' T shirt. Just purchased a Voigltander 15mm f/4.5 in M39 mount (along with an adaptor) in mint condition with a 15mm hotshoe viewfinder. Easing myself back in here, and feeling good! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
It's started again......
...and I'm even wearing my PDML 'You can never have too many lenses' T shirt. Just purchased a Voigltander 15mm f/4.5 in M39 mount (along with an adaptor) in mint condition with a 15mm hotshoe viewfinder. Easing myself back in here, and feeling good! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Why did I just start hearing the spooky music from Forbidden Planet play in my head? On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: ...and I'm even wearing my PDML 'You can never have too many lenses' T shirt. Just purchased a Voigltander 15mm f/4.5 in M39 mount (along with an adaptor) in mint condition with a 15mm hotshoe viewfinder. Easing myself back in here, and feeling good! Enjoy it! A very nice lens! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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For a moment, I thought you said: ist *D'ed ! Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 22. marts 2003 20:32 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: It's started! We know it wasn`t meant in any detrimental way Bill. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 4:12 AM Subject: Re: It's started! Thanks again, Bob. My apologies to those who took my original message as a political statement. It CERTAINLY was not sent as such, only an attempt to give a heads up. Bill - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 12:29 AM Subject: Re: It's started! Well, Ed, none of us were briefed on exactly when things would happen - except possibly you of course. Now, Ed, some of us have jobs (you know, that activity that some folks engage in so that they can eat, have roof over their head, etc.), and many of us with jobs work in places where media is not continuously available on premises. This means that (believe it or not) many would not have known that a major world event was taking place and broadcast live. Thanks to Bill, we were alerted as to what was happening and turned on a TV in our briefing/conference room to observe a little of what was happening. Thank you, Bill. I hope this helps, Ed. Regards, Bob... Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? -Martin Luther From: Ed Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] And whose head is so far in the sand that a 'heads up' is needed? Ed From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't get your knickers ripped. He's just giving a heads up as to a major world event taking place now. From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter which side of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of our threads and stick to the main subject that finds all of us inside this family. That would be photography and in particular, Pentax photography. At 08:19 PM 3/21/03 +0200, some fool wrote: piss off From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed.
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Hi, Friday, March 21, 2003, 10:55:45 PM, you wrote: Bob Walkden wrote: I'm happy to be a horse's ass Paul if that's what it means to ask for some consideration and sympathy towards the victims of war snip No, you just don't get it. Your opinions are insignificant. It's your refusal to refrain from political discourse that makes you the horse's ass. And you just dumped on the floor again. if you go back through the archives for a few months you're likely to find that I've been one of the least involved in political and other inflammatory threads. Indeed, you might like to tally up your own involvement in these threads and ask yourself who has wasted more of people's time, then think about the mote in your own eye. However, much as I dislike getting into these things nowadays some posts deserve a response. Using a word like 'creamed' to describe the bombing of Baghdad strikes me as insensitive and uncaring, whatever the rights and wrongs of the war itself, towards the people who are least able to do anything about their situation and who certainly haven't brought it upon themselves. Neutrality always favours the aggressor, and I'm not about to be neutral when people appear to relish the deaths of innocent people and treat their coverage like a Hollywood movie. Furthermore, when I do engage in these threads I at least have the decency to discuss the matters at hand, rather than insulting people. If your first resort is to call me a horse's ass it demonstrates nothing but your own ignorance and lack of civility. If you really want people to shut up about politics you could take lessons from Fred who is consistently polite but insistent about it. Tossing insults around is bound to generate further replies. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Here's an interresting proof that CNN is really an essential TV company with great knowledge about politics/geography: http://lestests.com/images/cnn.jpg (check where's Switzerland) Cyril www.pentaxiste.org -Message d'origine- De : Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : vendredi 21 mars 2003 19:06 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : It's started! Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed. Bill --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 17/03/2003 --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 17/03/2003
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Thanks again, Bob. My apologies to those who took my original message as a political statement. It CERTAINLY was not sent as such, only an attempt to give a heads up. Bill - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 12:29 AM Subject: Re: It's started! Well, Ed, none of us were briefed on exactly when things would happen - except possibly you of course. Now, Ed, some of us have jobs (you know, that activity that some folks engage in so that they can eat, have roof over their head, etc.), and many of us with jobs work in places where media is not continuously available on premises. This means that (believe it or not) many would not have known that a major world event was taking place and broadcast live. Thanks to Bill, we were alerted as to what was happening and turned on a TV in our briefing/conference room to observe a little of what was happening. Thank you, Bill. I hope this helps, Ed. Regards, Bob... Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? -Martin Luther From: Ed Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] And whose head is so far in the sand that a 'heads up' is needed? Ed From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't get your knickers ripped. He's just giving a heads up as to a major world event taking place now. From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter which side of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of our threads and stick to the main subject that finds all of us inside this family. That would be photography and in particular, Pentax photography. At 08:19 PM 3/21/03 +0200, some fool wrote: piss off From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed.
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Hi all Unless you actally have pics from the war, please keep discussions about the war away from the list - I's bulky enough a sit is! REgards Jens (Denmark - now a participant in the war efforts) -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bob Walkden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 22. marts 2003 09:31 Til: Paul Stenquist Emne: Re: It's started! Hi, Friday, March 21, 2003, 10:55:45 PM, you wrote: Bob Walkden wrote: I'm happy to be a horse's ass Paul if that's what it means to ask for some consideration and sympathy towards the victims of war snip No, you just don't get it. Your opinions are insignificant. It's your refusal to refrain from political discourse that makes you the horse's ass. And you just dumped on the floor again. if you go back through the archives for a few months you're likely to find that I've been one of the least involved in political and other inflammatory threads. Indeed, you might like to tally up your own involvement in these threads and ask yourself who has wasted more of people's time, then think about the mote in your own eye. However, much as I dislike getting into these things nowadays some posts deserve a response. Using a word like 'creamed' to describe the bombing of Baghdad strikes me as insensitive and uncaring, whatever the rights and wrongs of the war itself, towards the people who are least able to do anything about their situation and who certainly haven't brought it upon themselves. Neutrality always favours the aggressor, and I'm not about to be neutral when people appear to relish the deaths of innocent people and treat their coverage like a Hollywood movie. Furthermore, when I do engage in these threads I at least have the decency to discuss the matters at hand, rather than insulting people. If your first resort is to call me a horse's ass it demonstrates nothing but your own ignorance and lack of civility. If you really want people to shut up about politics you could take lessons from Fred who is consistently polite but insistent about it. Tossing insults around is bound to generate further replies. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We know it wasn`t meant in any detrimental way Bill. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 4:12 AM Subject: Re: It's started! Thanks again, Bob. My apologies to those who took my original message as a political statement. It CERTAINLY was not sent as such, only an attempt to give a heads up. Bill - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 12:29 AM Subject: Re: It's started! Well, Ed, none of us were briefed on exactly when things would happen - except possibly you of course. Now, Ed, some of us have jobs (you know, that activity that some folks engage in so that they can eat, have roof over their head, etc.), and many of us with jobs work in places where media is not continuously available on premises. This means that (believe it or not) many would not have known that a major world event was taking place and broadcast live. Thanks to Bill, we were alerted as to what was happening and turned on a TV in our briefing/conference room to observe a little of what was happening. Thank you, Bill. I hope this helps, Ed. Regards, Bob... Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? -Martin Luther From: Ed Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] And whose head is so far in the sand that a 'heads up' is needed? Ed From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't get your knickers ripped. He's just giving a heads up as to a major world event taking place now. From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter which side of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of our threads and stick to the main subject that finds all of us inside this family. That would be photography and in particular, Pentax photography. At 08:19 PM 3/21/03 +0200, some fool wrote: piss off From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed.
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BBC to. --- Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed. Bill __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter which side of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of our threads and stick to the main subject that finds all of us inside this family. That would be photography and in particular, Pentax photography. DG At 08:19 PM 3/21/03 +0200, you wrote: piss off - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 8:06 PM Subject: It's started! Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed. Bill
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This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter which side of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of our threads and stick to the main subject that finds all of us inside this family. That would be photography and in particular, Pentax photography. Amen. Fred
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This should be OT and not even posted here. Not just OT, but OL (for off limits). Fred
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Let's not get carried away, folks. Black and white does not exist in the world, except on film. Let's be more forgiving and understanding. The world outside of cameras does exist, even if you don't like what's going on. keith whaley Fred wrote: This should be OT and not even posted here. Not just OT, but OL (for off limits). Fred
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There's no need for that kind of talk. He's just giving a heads up as to a major world event taking place now. Thanks for the heads up Bill. Sad it came to this. Regards, Bob... --- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED] piss off From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed.
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Don't get your knickers ripped. He's just giving a heads up as to a major world event taking place now. Regards, Bob... --- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter which side of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of our threads and stick to the main subject that finds all of us inside this family. That would be photography and in particular, Pentax photography. At 08:19 PM 3/21/03 +0200, some fool wrote: piss off From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed.
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Don't get your knickers ripped. He's just giving a heads up as to a major world event taking place now. Regards, Bob... --- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter which side of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of our threads and stick to the main subject that finds all of us inside this family. That would be photography and in particular, Pentax photography. Amen.
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Hi, Friday, March 21, 2003, 11:01:52 PM, you wrote: No editorializing, just the facts, plain and simple. I'm thinking we'd have all found out about it sooner or later, but I don't see the harm in it... well, an emotive word like 'creamed' sounds to me more like editorializing than plain, simple facts. In case anybody wonders what it means to get 'creamed', here's part of a report from Robert Fisk, in Baghdad: The first of the latter, a taxi driver, was blown to pieces in the first American raid on Baghdad yesterday morning. No one here doubted that the dead would include civilians. Tony Blair said just that in the Commons debate this week but I wondered, listening to this storm of fire across Baghdad last night, if he has any conception of what it looks like, what it feels like, or of the fear of those innocent Iraqis who are, as I write this, cowering in their homes and basements http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=389208 I just figure, since I spout off when things get political, I should be balanced in my harangues... g Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Keith, Maybe you were including me in the ostrich-mimickers, maybe not - it doesn't really matter to me, one way or the other. But, just because one doesn't wish to see politics, etc. discussed here (it is list policy, after all), doesn't mean that one's head is in the sand. I, for one, was until quite recently, very politically active. Now, if what you mean is that anyone whose political opinions differ from yours has their head in the sand, well, that's a different issue altogether... cheers, ostrich boy vbg Keith Whaley wrote: The people who, when a different subject is mentioned, and especially any subject containing the word gun, or perhaps violence, or especially politics gasp! get a huge shot of adrenaline, and quickly put their heads back in the sand again! Those are our resident ostrich-mimicking Pentax list persons. keith whaley -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus
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Yeah, you're right again, Frank. A heads-up is okay as long as people don't start editorializing. Paul frank theriault wrote: Hey, Bill, As the self-appointed, unofficial list haranguer, I just wanted to jump in and say I'm not offended by your post. No editorializing, just the facts, plain and simple. I'm thinking we'd have all found out about it sooner or later, but I don't see the harm in it... I just figure, since I spout off when things get political, I should be balanced in my harangues... g cheers, frank Bill Owens wrote: Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed. Bill -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus
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Bob Walkden wrote: more political crap. Congratulations Bob. Once again, you've proved to be the horse's ass.
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frank theriault wrote: Hi, Keith, Maybe you were including me in the ostrich-mimickers, maybe not - it doesn't really matter to me, one way or the other. Nah, they know who they are. And so do you. But, just because one doesn't wish to see politics, etc. discussed here (it is list policy, after all), doesn't mean that one's head is in the sand. Absolutely true, sir. I didn't bring the subject up. Those who blanch at merely seeing the WORD are the ones I am gunning for (got 'em twice in one email!) grin #1 I, for one, was until quite recently, very politically active. I'm now a-political. I have opinions, and some strong ones, but am not what you'd call partisan. Now, if what you mean is that anyone whose political opinions differ from yours has their head in the sand, well, that's a different issue altogether... Certainly not! No sir! Most of my best friends are of a different cut of political cloth. Doesn't bother me at all. My own daughter, bless her soul, is miles apart from me in terms of women's lib issues and Democrat vs. Republican issues. She's amazed when I tell her the RNC doesn't speak for me anymore. Hasn't for years and years. I'm one of the original hybrids... Still, she's a brilliant, successful kid (of 40!) and has a great business head on her shoulders... It simply doesn't matter to me WHO she votes for! We talk about many other things... Know what? She doesn't turn white-faced or get palpitations when I speak the word 'gun' in her presence... We lambaste many colors of politicians, quite freely, and gleefully! when we get together. No reason Ostrich Boy can't be the same way. big grin If I respect everything else about you, who _cares_ what your political beliefs are? You could even admit to a love for Pentax's and I'd still respect you in the morning! g#3 keith cheers, ostrich boy vbg Keith Whaley wrote: The people who, when a different subject is mentioned, and especially any subject containing the word gun, or perhaps violence, or especially politics gasp! get a huge shot of adrenaline, and quickly put their heads back in the sand again! Those are our resident ostrich-mimicking Pentax list persons. keith whaley -- Honour - that virtue of the unjust! -Albert Camus
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Folks who are working in offices for a living. Regards, Bob... --- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: Re: It's started! Ed Matthew wrote: And whose head is so far in the sand that a 'heads up' is needed? Ed The people who, when a different subject is mentioned, and especially any subject containing the word gun, or perhaps violence, or especially politics gasp! get a huge shot of adrenaline, and quickly put their heads back in the sand again! Those are our resident ostrich-mimicking Pentax list persons. keith whaley From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: It's started! Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:01:20 -0800 Don't get your knickers ripped. He's just giving a heads up as to a major world event taking place now. Regards, Bob... --- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter which side of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of our threads and stick to the main subject that finds all of us inside this family. That would be photography and in particular, Pentax photography. At 08:19 PM 3/21/03 +0200, some fool wrote: piss off From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm now a-political. I have opinions, and some strong ones, but am not what you'd call partisan. Death to all fanatics! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Hi, Friday, March 21, 2003, 6:54:22 PM, you wrote: Bob Walkden wrote: more political crap. Congratulations Bob. Once again, you've proved to be the horse's ass. Is this the best you can come up with? I'm happy to be a horse's ass Paul if that's what it means to ask for some consideration and sympathy towards the victims of war, and if it distinguishes me from people like you. Consider for a moment how you would have felt on the morning of September 11th 2001 if somebody had written New York is getting creamed. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, Friday, March 21, 2003, 6:54:22 PM, you wrote: Bob Walkden wrote: more political crap. Congratulations Bob. Once again, you've proved to be the horse's ass. Is this the best you can come up with? I'm happy to be a horse's ass Paul if that's what it means to ask for some consideration and sympathy towards the victims of war, and if it distinguishes me from people like you. Consider for a moment how you would have felt on the morning of September 11th 2001 if somebody had written New York is getting creamed. Would have been true, wouldn't it have, Bob... keith -- Cheers, Bob
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Let's be more forgiving and understanding. The world outside of cameras does exist, even if you don't like what's going on. hm, NO! If you want to talk about the world, I already offered to discuss... IN PRIVATE! L PS: Once I was on a mailing list that had an off topic side list. Anyone who is interested to debate off topic issues with fella' list members can take it there. Something like the war would pop up and all they had to say was, take it to the off-topic list and we did. It was a lot more civilized... I don't know who the boss is here but this might be something to consider...
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Doug, This might be a nice idea. Would the server cope with it ? cheers, caveman Levente -Levi- Littvay wrote: PS: Once I was on a mailing list that had an off topic side list. Anyone who is interested to debate off topic issues with fella' list members can take it there. Something like the war would pop up and all they had to say was, take it to the off-topic list and we did. It was a lot more civilized... I don't know who the boss is here but this might be something to consider...
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Thanks, Bob. Yes, I was just giving a heads up. Really didn't mean to start a flame war. Bill - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: Re: It's started! There's no need for that kind of talk. He's just giving a heads up as to a major world event taking place now. Thanks for the heads up Bill. Sad it came to this. Regards, Bob... --- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED] piss off From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed.
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This might be a nice idea. Would the server cope with it ? We are generating the unnessecary trafic anyway. It would only decrease the number of shut up-s... L
