Re: Jumbo Spotmatic
I don't have any old screwmount stuff, but I do have and older Tak 105 6x7 and the new 45 6x7. While there is a big difference in build quality, I'm not sure the trade off is so bad re: weight factor... Norm Bob Rapp wrote: > JCO lamented on the optical and build quality of the Takumars and feels that > they reached their peak in 1971. He also noted that the build quality > deteriorated as Pentax moved from the K through the M and A series. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumbo Spotmatic
JCO lamented on the optical and build quality of the Takumars and feels that they reached their peak in 1971. He also noted that the build quality deteriorated as Pentax moved from the K through the M and A series. The Ms in particular were a dissapointment as they knocked the better Ks off the shelf. This was for economic and compactness reasons. The As, in some focal lengths improved somewhat optically, but the build quality did not. Pentax, with the Limited series, has proven that they can build high quality lenses to match the Takumars. It is sad to say that they are too late as they have given up their pro market potential to Cannon and Nikon. That being said, Mike, what other camera manufacturer enjoys the same level of interest on the internet as Pentak with AOHC, Boz's, Stan's and Yoshikiko's marvelous sites? Bob rapp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Jumbo Spotmatic
> > At least they had the decency to use a > > "Super-Multi-Coated" Takumar and not the piece > > of crap "SMC" version they came out with later > > > > This may be controversial but I think Pentax quality > > peaked with the SPII of 1971 ( Thirty years ago ). > > Yeah the SPF had open aperture metering but the finder > > wasnt as good and the lenses took a step back when > > the started using rubber and later plastic... > > > > "Super-Multi-Coated" Takumars ( all metal and glass) > > were the ultimate quality, "SMC" Tersions were lower quality, > > "K" lower again, M lower again , A even lower, you get the picture... > > > > I couldn't agree more! The older lenses are the most valued (not the most > value) in my collection. I actually use my old SPs more than I do my SPIIs > because on the smoother body due to no flash shoe. > > Bob Rapp > I've been using a SP (black) with no battery installed (even though the meter works)lately. I like the black bodies. And i use the "Super-Multi-Coated" (not "SMC") 50mm F1.4 of course. JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumbo Spotmatic
Say, why not get an old Tessar large format lens and insert the optical unit into the beast? M, I can see a pet project coming up 8-) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumbo Spotmatic
> At least they had the decency to use a > "Super-Multi-Coated" Takumar and not the piece > of crap "SMC" version they came out with later > > This may be controversial but I think Pentax quality > peaked with the SPII of 1971 ( Thirty years ago ). > Yeah the SPF had open aperture metering but the finder > wasnt as good and the lenses took a step back when > the started using rubber and later plastic... > > "Super-Multi-Coated" Takumars ( all metal and glass) > were the ultimate quality, "SMC" Tersions were lower quality, > "K" lower again, M lower again , A even lower, you get the picture... > I couldn't agree more! The older lenses are the most valued (not the most value) in my collection. I actually use my old SPs more than I do my SPIIs because on the smoother body due to no flash shoe. Bob Rapp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Jumbo Spotmatic
So, JC, I hear you're getting into "really large format" photography? CRB * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Edith Keiler must die." -- Spock, 1930 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumbo Spotmatic
Nope, I remember this from a bit back. Someone on ebay was selling the large one, which was meant as a display for photo stores. I forgot what it went for, but this is the exact same picture they had posted. Illinois Bill "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: > Perhaps the large one is real and the smaller one is a model. > > "J. C. O'Connell" wrote: > > > Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous. > > Mines bigger than yours!!! > > http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg > > > > If it was operational the film size would be > > 5" by 7" ! > > JCO > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > -- > Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com > Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Jumbo Spotmatic
At least they had the decency to use a "Super-Multi-Coated" Takumar and not the piece of crap "SMC" version they came out with later This may be controversial but I think Pentax quality peaked with the SPII of 1971 ( Thirty years ago ). Yeah the SPF had open aperture metering but the finder wasnt as good and the lenses took a step back when the started using rubber and later plastic... "Super-Multi-Coated" Takumars ( all metal and glass) were the ultimate quality, "SMC" Tersions were lower quality, "K" lower again, M lower again , A even lower, you get the picture... JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Jumbo Spotmatic
Yeah, it would have been a real nice touch if they had installed a real piece of glass for the lens... JCO > > John, > > I know you're a pretty good trader, but you got taken on this > one! It looks like the lens has a real bad case of fogging. > > Regards, Bob S. > > > Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous. > > Mines bigger than yours!!! > > http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg > > > > If it was operational the film size would be > > 5" by 7" ! > > JCO > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumbo Spotmatic
On Wednesday, December 5, 2001, at 04:46 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous. > Mines bigger than yours!!! > http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg Super Multi-Coated...with grey paint! -Aaron p.s. where'd you get it?? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumbo Spotmatic
On Wednesday, December 5, 2001, at 04:46 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg > Oh oh oh! That would make a KILLER fishbowl! -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumbo Spotmatic
Perhaps the large one is real and the smaller one is a model. "J. C. O'Connell" wrote: > Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous. > Mines bigger than yours!!! > http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg > > If it was operational the film size would be > 5" by 7" ! > JCO > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Jumbo Spotmatic
of course the opaque lens makes shooting in low (or any!) light a nightmare Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous. > Mines bigger than yours!!! > http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg > > If it was operational the film size would be > 5" by 7" ! > JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Jumbo Spotmatic
Now all you screwmount fans can get jealous. Mines bigger than yours!!! http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/jumbospot.jpg If it was operational the film size would be 5" by 7" ! JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
