Re: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?

2008-07-01 Thread Peter Loveday
 The short answer is that there is no way to trigger a flash at
 exposure times over the X sync speed unless you're using a dedicated
 Pentax flash unit and HSS mode. I'm certain that Pentax considers
 this a plus for most of their users.


Yeah, understood.  I'm sure it is... for most :)

I guess I'm really trying to pervert the purpose of the flash sync anyway; 
I'm using it to drive a second slave camera via a wireless link; such that 
any time I take a shot of my handheld K20D, my K10D takes a wide-angle shot 
from its static tripod also.

Works very nicely, so long as I'm careful to stay at or below 1/180th 
shutter speed.

Guess I'll just have to live with that.  Thanks all for the respones.

- Peter


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K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?

2008-06-28 Thread Peter Loveday
Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger the PC/hotshoe at 
shutter speeds about 1/180?

I'm not talking about HSS (or indeed dedicated flash at all), and I 
understand all the issues with flah sync; this is for a project where I 
still want a trigger at any shutter speed.  Hotshoe would be ideal, but PC 
sync would do.

I've been over all the settings, and can't find anything, but I thought I 
would ask here in case anyone knew any tricks.

Love, Light and Peace,
- Peter Loveday


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Re: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?

2008-06-28 Thread Thibouille
Maybe be going manual would be OK ?

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger the PC/hotshoe at
 shutter speeds about 1/180?

 I'm not talking about HSS (or indeed dedicated flash at all), and I
 understand all the issues with flah sync; this is for a project where I
 still want a trigger at any shutter speed.  Hotshoe would be ideal, but PC
 sync would do.

 I've been over all the settings, and can't find anything, but I thought I
 would ask here in case anyone knew any tricks.

 Love, Light and Peace,
 - Peter Loveday


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Re: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?

2008-06-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Loveday
Subject: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?


 Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger the PC/hotshoe at
 shutter speeds about 1/180?

It doesn't look like it. I hooked my Metz up to the PC terminal, and tried. The 
flash trigger 
appears to be turned off at speeds above 1/180 second.

William Robb 


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RE: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?

2008-06-28 Thread Bob W
 
  Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger 
 the PC/hotshoe at
  shutter speeds about 1/180?
 
 It doesn't look like it. I hooked my Metz up to the PC 
 terminal, and tried. The flash trigger 
 appears to be turned off at speeds above 1/180 second.
 
 William Robb 

Pentax have never really got to grips with flash. I remember always
being confused and disappointed in the way the LX handled it. I'm much
more impressed with the Olympus flash system, and I know Nikon are
very good at flash. With my Olympus you can use flash at any shutter
speed because of their 'Super FP' mode - which has been available
since the days of the OM system. Although I've never used flash much,
when I do use it I want it to be able to do what I want, and Pentax
have always been pretty poor in that area.

Bob


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Re: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?

2008-06-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bob W
Subject: RE: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?



  Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger
 the PC/hotshoe at
  shutter speeds about 1/180?

 It doesn't look like it. I hooked my Metz up to the PC
 terminal, and tried. The flash trigger
 appears to be turned off at speeds above 1/180 second.


 Pentax have never really got to grips with flash. I remember always
 being confused and disappointed in the way the LX handled it.

Same here. The first wedding I shot with my LX it buggered me up by refusing to 
trigger the 
flash in common fill flash situations. I didn't discover this little design 
flaw until I had a 
bridesmaid coming down the aisle towards me.
I ended up with a few K1000s that became my 35mm wedding cameras.
They did exactly what they were told to do.
I like that in a camera.

William Robb 


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Re: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?

2008-06-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 28, 2008, at 12:08 AM, Peter Loveday wrote:

 Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger the PC/ 
 hotshoe at
 shutter speeds about 1/180?

 I'm not talking about HSS (or indeed dedicated flash at all), and I
 understand all the issues with flah sync; this is for a project  
 where I
 still want a trigger at any shutter speed.  Hotshoe would be ideal,  
 but PC
 sync would do.

 I've been over all the settings, and can't find anything, but I  
 thought I
 would ask here in case anyone knew any tricks.

The short answer is that there is no way to trigger a flash at  
exposure times over the X sync speed unless you're using a dedicated  
Pentax flash unit and HSS mode. I'm certain that Pentax considers  
this a plus for most of their users.

Godfrey

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Re: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?

2008-06-28 Thread pnstenquist
I use high speed synch mode on a regular bases. it works very well. If one were 
able to trigger the flash above synch speed in normal mode, the result would be 
a frame that is exposed unevenly. We used to be able to do that with some 
cameras. The result is predictable.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Jun 28, 2008, at 12:08 AM, Peter Loveday wrote:
 
  Does anyone know if any way to force the K20D to trigger the PC/ 
  hotshoe at
  shutter speeds about 1/180?
 
  I'm not talking about HSS (or indeed dedicated flash at all), and I
  understand all the issues with flah sync; this is for a project  
  where I
  still want a trigger at any shutter speed.  Hotshoe would be ideal,  
  but PC
  sync would do.
 
  I've been over all the settings, and can't find anything, but I  
  thought I
  would ask here in case anyone knew any tricks.
 
 The short answer is that there is no way to trigger a flash at  
 exposure times over the X sync speed unless you're using a dedicated  
 Pentax flash unit and HSS mode. I'm certain that Pentax considers  
 this a plus for most of their users.
 
 Godfrey
 
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Re: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?

2008-06-28 Thread Carlos Royo

Bob W escribió:

 
 Pentax have never really got to grips with flash. I remember always
 being confused and disappointed in the way the LX handled it. I'm much
 more impressed with the Olympus flash system, and I know Nikon are
 very good at flash. With my Olympus you can use flash at any shutter
 speed because of their 'Super FP' mode - which has been available
 since the days of the OM system. Although I've never used flash much,
 when I do use it I want it to be able to do what I want, and Pentax
 have always been pretty poor in that area.
 

Pentax introduced HSS (flash syncro at any speed) in 2001 when the MZ-S 
appeared. The AF360FGZ and AF540FGZ are HSS-capable units.

Carlos

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RE: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?

2008-06-28 Thread Bob W
 Bob W escribió:
 
  
  Pentax have never really got to grips with flash. I remember
always
  being confused and disappointed in the way the LX handled 
 it. I'm much
  more impressed with the Olympus flash system, and I know Nikon are
  very good at flash. With my Olympus you can use flash at any
shutter
  speed because of their 'Super FP' mode - which has been available
  since the days of the OM system. Although I've never used 
 flash much,
  when I do use it I want it to be able to do what I want, and
Pentax
  have always been pretty poor in that area.
  
 
 Pentax introduced HSS (flash syncro at any speed) in 2001 
 when the MZ-S 
 appeared. The AF360FGZ and AF540FGZ are HSS-capable units.
 
 Carlos
 

Forgive my ignorance - I stand corrected!

Bob


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RE: K20D PC/hotshoe triggering above X-Sync speeds?

2008-06-28 Thread pnstenquist
I regularly use fill flash from my 540 at 1/2000 or 1/4000. Pentx HSS works 
well.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Bob W escribi�:
  
   
   Pentax have never really got to grips with flash. I remember
 always
   being confused and disappointed in the way the LX handled 
  it. I'm much
   more impressed with the Olympus flash system, and I know Nikon are
   very good at flash. With my Olympus you can use flash at any
 shutter
   speed because of their 'Super FP' mode - which has been available
   since the days of the OM system. Although I've never used 
  flash much,
   when I do use it I want it to be able to do what I want, and
 Pentax
   have always been pretty poor in that area.
   
  
  Pentax introduced HSS (flash syncro at any speed) in 2001 
  when the MZ-S 
  appeared. The AF360FGZ and AF540FGZ are HSS-capable units.
  
  Carlos
  
 
 Forgive my ignorance - I stand corrected!
 
 Bob
 
 
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