Re: PESO: Knoppiesdoring

2016-09-16 Thread Gonz
Thats a serious flower profusion!  Wow!  Nice capture, I'd love to see
it right after sunset too!

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:
> A large Knoppiesdoring (Acacia nigrescens - our commonest Acacia) flowering
> profusely in a Phalaborwa garden. The English translation of the Afrikaans
> name (Knobthorn) is seldom used. The flowers can vary from almost white to
> gold. This year the Lowveld is clothed in yellow, about a month early,
> probably as a result of the drought. Some years ago, a parachutist landed in
> one of these trees & had a hell of a job getting out!
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/29643118156/
>
> Taken just before sunset with the K7 & HD 55-300. Scroll R for a closer
> view.
>
> Alan C
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Re: Knoppiesdoring

2016-09-15 Thread Alan C

Yes, you're right, but it does make sense.

http://safari-ecology.blogspot.co.za/2011/07/vachellia-tortilis-or-why-there-are-no.html

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Walters

Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:30 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Knoppiesdoring

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016, at 06:18 PM, Alan C wrote:

Thanks, Brian. I understand we will have to find a new name for our
Acacias
as a result of the on-going rationalisation of plant & animal names.
Apparently Acacia was first used in Aus so we can't have it. Many of our
bird species already have new names. I love to annoy the serious birders
by
using the old names! Yes, the wattles have taken over. They are becoming
a
problem in Kruger too as the seeds get carried down the rivers.



Actually my understanding of the issue is that Acacia was first used for
an African species but Australia has the vast majority so some muscle
has been exerted to allow Australian species to retain the name.  Not a
decision I'm comfortable with.  It all seems to be associated with
national pride - Acacia being Australia's floral emblem.



Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/






Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Walters

Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:38 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: Knoppiesdoring

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016, at 04:42 AM, Alan C wrote:
> A large Knoppiesdoring (Acacia nigrescens - our commonest Acacia)
> flowering
> profusely in a Phalaborwa garden. The English translation of the
> Afrikaans
> name (Knobthorn) is seldom used. The flowers can vary from almost white
> to
> gold. This year the Lowveld is clothed in yellow, about a month early,
> probably as a result of the drought. Some years ago, a parachutist 
> landed

> in
> one of these trees & had a hell of a job getting out!
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/29643118156/
>
> Taken just before sunset with the K7 & HD 55-300. Scroll R for a closer
> view.


Very spectacular.  Lots of our acacias are in flower now, too.

We don't seem to cultivate Africa acacias here much (we have plenty of
our own :-) ), which is probably just as well - several prickly species
have become serious weeds.  Unfortunately I think we have returned the
'favour' with some Australian acacias infesting parts of South Africa.


Cheers

Brian





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Re: Knoppiesdoring

2016-09-15 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016, at 06:18 PM, Alan C wrote:
> Thanks, Brian. I understand we will have to find a new name for our
> Acacias 
> as a result of the on-going rationalisation of plant & animal names. 
> Apparently Acacia was first used in Aus so we can't have it. Many of our 
> bird species already have new names. I love to annoy the serious birders
> by 
> using the old names! Yes, the wattles have taken over. They are becoming
> a 
> problem in Kruger too as the seeds get carried down the rivers.


Actually my understanding of the issue is that Acacia was first used for
an African species but Australia has the vast majority so some muscle
has been exerted to allow Australian species to retain the name.  Not a
decision I'm comfortable with.  It all seems to be associated with
national pride - Acacia being Australia's floral emblem.



Cheers

Brian

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Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/




> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Brian Walters
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:38 AM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: PESO: Knoppiesdoring
> 
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016, at 04:42 AM, Alan C wrote:
> > A large Knoppiesdoring (Acacia nigrescens - our commonest Acacia)
> > flowering
> > profusely in a Phalaborwa garden. The English translation of the
> > Afrikaans
> > name (Knobthorn) is seldom used. The flowers can vary from almost white
> > to
> > gold. This year the Lowveld is clothed in yellow, about a month early,
> > probably as a result of the drought. Some years ago, a parachutist landed
> > in
> > one of these trees & had a hell of a job getting out!
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/29643118156/
> >
> > Taken just before sunset with the K7 & HD 55-300. Scroll R for a closer
> > view.
> 
> 
> Very spectacular.  Lots of our acacias are in flower now, too.
> 
> We don't seem to cultivate Africa acacias here much (we have plenty of
> our own :-) ), which is probably just as well - several prickly species
> have become serious weeds.  Unfortunately I think we have returned the
> 'favour' with some Australian acacias infesting parts of South Africa.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 



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Re: Knoppiesdoring

2016-09-15 Thread Alan C
Thanks, Brian. I understand we will have to find a new name for our Acacias 
as a result of the on-going rationalisation of plant & animal names. 
Apparently Acacia was first used in Aus so we can't have it. Many of our 
bird species already have new names. I love to annoy the serious birders by 
using the old names! Yes, the wattles have taken over. They are becoming a 
problem in Kruger too as the seeds get carried down the rivers.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Walters

Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:38 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: Knoppiesdoring

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016, at 04:42 AM, Alan C wrote:

A large Knoppiesdoring (Acacia nigrescens - our commonest Acacia)
flowering
profusely in a Phalaborwa garden. The English translation of the
Afrikaans
name (Knobthorn) is seldom used. The flowers can vary from almost white
to
gold. This year the Lowveld is clothed in yellow, about a month early,
probably as a result of the drought. Some years ago, a parachutist landed
in
one of these trees & had a hell of a job getting out!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/29643118156/

Taken just before sunset with the K7 & HD 55-300. Scroll R for a closer
view.



Very spectacular.  Lots of our acacias are in flower now, too.

We don't seem to cultivate Africa acacias here much (we have plenty of
our own :-) ), which is probably just as well - several prickly species
have become serious weeds.  Unfortunately I think we have returned the
'favour' with some Australian acacias infesting parts of South Africa.


Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



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Re: PESO: Knoppiesdoring

2016-09-15 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016, at 04:42 AM, Alan C wrote:
> A large Knoppiesdoring (Acacia nigrescens - our commonest Acacia)
> flowering
> profusely in a Phalaborwa garden. The English translation of the
> Afrikaans
> name (Knobthorn) is seldom used. The flowers can vary from almost white
> to
> gold. This year the Lowveld is clothed in yellow, about a month early,
> probably as a result of the drought. Some years ago, a parachutist landed
> in
> one of these trees & had a hell of a job getting out!
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/29643118156/
> 
> Taken just before sunset with the K7 & HD 55-300. Scroll R for a closer
> view.


Very spectacular.  Lots of our acacias are in flower now, too.

We don't seem to cultivate Africa acacias here much (we have plenty of
our own :-) ), which is probably just as well - several prickly species
have become serious weeds.  Unfortunately I think we have returned the
'favour' with some Australian acacias infesting parts of South Africa.


Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



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PESO: Knoppiesdoring

2016-09-14 Thread Alan C

A large Knoppiesdoring (Acacia nigrescens - our commonest Acacia) flowering
profusely in a Phalaborwa garden. The English translation of the Afrikaans
name (Knobthorn) is seldom used. The flowers can vary from almost white to
gold. This year the Lowveld is clothed in yellow, about a month early,
probably as a result of the drought. Some years ago, a parachutist landed in
one of these trees & had a hell of a job getting out!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/29643118156/

Taken just before sunset with the K7 & HD 55-300. Scroll R for a closer
view.

Alan C 



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