Re: Lenses again, again
On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jul 22, 2010, at 16:50, Eric Weir wrote: I've won an SMC A 28mm f2.8 on eBay for $90. Other sellers were asking a little to a lot more. Sweet! That's about what I paid for mine a few years ago. And it's less than half what some sellers who had only buy it now prices, i.e., who were not accepting bids, were asking. I'm finding a wide range of prices for the smc a 70-210mm macro lens as well, including among those who have only buy it now prices. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lenses again, again
I've won an SMC A 28mm f2.8 on eBay for $90. Other sellers were asking a little to a lot more. I'm also thinking about a telephoto lens. If it was between an SMC A 70-210mm F4 Macro and an SMC M 200mm f4, both about the same price. Assuming a limited budget, and limited set of lenses already in hand, what would you choose? [My camera's a *ist DS.] -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lenses again, again
It they are the same price go with the 70-210. From my own experience,
I have a number of 70=210 lenses, the SMC Pentax F f4.0~5.6 the vmc
Vivitar Series 1, f2.8~4.0, (the third version of that lens with the A
contracts), and the Vivitar Series 1 f3.5, (the second version, no A
contracts), and the M 200 f4.0. The latter two lenses don't see much
use. The inability to use open aperture metering makes them just two
inconvenient, dispute their wonderful optics.. I did some testing of
all of those lenses at 200mm and found the difference in quality to be
too small for me to notice. By all accounts the A 70-210 is very good
optically maybe better than the SMCP F 70-210 or either Vivitar. The
only reason to go with the M 200 is if you want to pair down the weight
you're carrying around. The A 70-210 is somewhat heavier..
On 7/22/2010 5:50 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
I've won an SMC A 28mm f2.8 on eBay for $90. Other sellers were asking a little
to a lot more.
I'm also thinking about a telephoto lens. If it was between an SMC A 70-210mm
F4 Macro and an SMC M 200mm f4, both about the same price. Assuming a limited
budget, and limited set of lenses already in hand, what would you choose? [My
camera's a *ist DS.]
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Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net
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Lenses again, again
I've won an SMC A 28mm f2.8 on eBay for $90. Other sellers were asking a little to a lot more. I'm also thinking about a telephoto lens. If it was between an SMC A 70-210mm F4 Macro and an SMC M 200mm f4, both about the same price. Assuming a limited budget, and limited set of lenses already in hand, what would you choose? [My camera's a *ist DS.] -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lenses again, again
On Jul 22, 2010, at 6:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It they are the same price go with the 70-210. From my own experience, I have a number of 70=210 lenses, the SMC Pentax F f4.0~5.6 the vmc Vivitar Series 1, f2.8~4.0, (the third version of that lens with the A contracts), and the Vivitar Series 1 f3.5, (the second version, no A contracts), and the M 200 f4.0. The latter two lenses don't see much use. The inability to use open aperture metering makes them just two inconvenient, dispute their wonderful optics.. I did some testing of all of those lenses at 200mm and found the difference in quality to be too small for me to notice. By all accounts the A 70-210 is very good optically maybe better than the SMCP F 70-210 or either Vivitar. The only reason to go with the M 200 is if you want to pair down the weight you're carrying around. The A 70-210 is somewhat heavier.. Thanks, PJ. I hear a preference for prime lenses, but the ability to control aperture from the camera body really appeals to me. The folks quoted about the a 70-210 on Stan Halpin's site spoke very highly of it. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The 70-210/4 if it's under $100, otherwise a used SMC-DA 50-200 f4-5.6 is a better choice. I've owned the M 200/4 (actually the XR Rikenon, which is optically identical and physically almost identical as well, as far as I can tell Pentax made the lens for Ricoh, the only way to tell the difference between it and the SMC-M version is by the lettering or the DoF marking cutout, which differs slightly), the A 70-210/4 and the DA 50-200. The latter is optically the best of the three, although the difference is small and all are good, its the smallest, the best handling and offers AF. The only reason not to buy it is if film use of the lens is important or you absolutely must have f4 at 200mm. A DA 50-200 should run a little over $100 on eBay. Payed $150CDN for mine. -Adam On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I've won an SMC A 28mm f2.8 on eBay for $90. Other sellers were asking a little to a lot more. I'm also thinking about a telephoto lens. If it was between an SMC A 70-210mm F4 Macro and an SMC M 200mm f4, both about the same price. Assuming a limited budget, and limited set of lenses already in hand, what would you choose? [My camera's a *ist DS.] -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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And don't forget, the SMC PENTAX-A 70-210mm covers full frame that may come in handy in the future if and when Pentax gets around to releasing a professonal FF digital SLR. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Eric Weir Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lenses again, again On Jul 22, 2010, at 6:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It they are the same price go with the 70-210. From my own experience, I have a number of 70=210 lenses, the SMC Pentax F f4.0~5.6 the vmc Vivitar Series 1, f2.8~4.0, (the third version of that lens with the A contracts), and the Vivitar Series 1 f3.5, (the second version, no A contracts), and the M 200 f4.0. The latter two lenses don't see much use. The inability to use open aperture metering makes them just two inconvenient, dispute their wonderful optics.. I did some testing of all of those lenses at 200mm and found the difference in quality to be too small for me to notice. By all accounts the A 70-210 is very good optically maybe better than the SMCP F 70-210 or either Vivitar. The only reason to go with the M 200 is if you want to pair down the weight you're carrying around. The A 70-210 is somewhat heavier.. Thanks, PJ. I hear a preference for prime lenses, but the ability to control aperture from the camera body really appeals to me. The folks quoted about the a 70-210 on Stan Halpin's site spoke very highly of it. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Eric, I have a very large collection of old Takumar glass. I love to use most all of it and I particularly enjoy focusing manually. A lot of my 'OLD GLASS' collection has M42 thread mounts. This is again easy to use with the adapter ring that fits within the K mount of my modern Pentax body, a K10D digital camera. However, when I want to shoot flowers, I will often use my DA 50-200 and take along a couple of achromatic close-up lenses. This turns my 50-200 kit lens into a very easy to use macro lens. The fidelity with either the 5T (62mm, 1.5 diopters), the 6T (3.0 diopter) Nikon, a Canon (58mm 2.0 diopter) 500T or a 52mm filter sized Sigma Achromatic Macro lens (1.6 diopter) I own make macro shooting a breeze. Of course the screw on Canon or Nikon achromatic close-up lenses can also be screwed onto my Takumar f1.9 85mm, my f2.5 135mm or my f4 200mm Takumar primes. I then take along a set of extension tubes to short focus the 200mm prime and I have a great field kit that can get really close. I also like to use an f4 100mm macro Takumar. The 1:2 close focusing can get even closer when I use step-up filter rings to use the close-up lenses on the front of the 42mm filter sized 100mm lens. My next lens will probably be a fast DFA macro, such as the latest 100mm macro. Richard Bush On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:16 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: And don't forget, the SMC PENTAX-A 70-210mm covers full frame that may come in handy in the future if and when Pentax gets around to releasing a professonal FF digital SLR. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Eric Weir Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lenses again, again On Jul 22, 2010, at 6:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It they are the same price go with the 70-210. From my own experience, I have a number of 70=210 lenses, the SMC Pentax F f4.0~5.6 the vmc Vivitar Series 1, f2.8~4.0, (the third version of that lens with the A contracts), and the Vivitar Series 1 f3.5, (the second version, no A contracts), and the M 200 f4.0. The latter two lenses don't see much use. The inability to use open aperture metering makes them just two inconvenient, dispute their wonderful optics.. I did some testing of all of those lenses at 200mm and found the difference in quality to be too small for me to notice. By all accounts the A 70-210 is very good optically maybe better than the SMCP F 70-210 or either Vivitar. The only reason to go with the M 200 is if you want to pair down the weight you're carrying around. The A 70-210 is somewhat heavier.. Thanks, PJ. I hear a preference for prime lenses, but the ability to control aperture from the camera body really appeals to me. The folks quoted about the a 70-210 on Stan Halpin's site spoke very highly of it. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lenses again, again
If you don't have a lot of glass, the zoom will be more useful. The M200 is probably a somewhat sharper lens. Had one at one time. It was very good. Paul On Jul 22, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I've won an SMC A 28mm f2.8 on eBay for $90. Other sellers were asking a little to a lot more. I'm also thinking about a telephoto lens. If it was between an SMC A 70-210mm F4 Macro and an SMC M 200mm f4, both about the same price. Assuming a limited budget, and limited set of lenses already in hand, what would you choose? [My camera's a *ist DS.] -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 22, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Adam Maas wrote: The 70-210/4 if it's under $100, otherwise a used SMC-DA 50-200 f4-5.6 is a better choice. I've owned the M 200/4 (actually the XR Rikenon, which is optically identical and physically almost identical as well, as far as I can tell Pentax made the lens for Ricoh, the only way to tell the difference between it and the SMC-M version is by the lettering or the DoF marking cutout, which differs slightly), the A 70-210/4 and the DA 50-200. The latter is optically the best of the three, I agree. The DA 50-200 is a surprisingly good lens. Excellent for the money. Paul although the difference is small and all are good, its the smallest, the best handling and offers AF. The only reason not to buy it is if film use of the lens is important or you absolutely must have f4 at 200mm. A DA 50-200 should run a little over $100 on eBay. Payed $150CDN for mine. -Adam On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I've won an SMC A 28mm f2.8 on eBay for $90. Other sellers were asking a little to a lot more. I'm also thinking about a telephoto lens. If it was between an SMC A 70-210mm F4 Macro and an SMC M 200mm f4, both about the same price. Assuming a limited budget, and limited set of lenses already in hand, what would you choose? [My camera's a *ist DS.] -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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FWIW, I have your choice of two Pentax-F 70-210mm currently advertised on Pentax Forums Marketplace. It is too good a lens to be without, so I'm keeping whichever one doesn't sell (Buyer's choice). http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/105608-sale-pentax-f-70-210mm-f4-5-6-exc-worldwide.html Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Richard D Bush rbushidiog...@comcast.net wrote: Eric, I have a very large collection of old Takumar glass. I love to use most all of it and I particularly enjoy focusing manually. A lot of my 'OLD GLASS' collection has M42 thread mounts. This is again easy to use with the adapter ring that fits within the K mount of my modern Pentax body, a K10D digital camera. However, when I want to shoot flowers, I will often use my DA 50-200 and take along a couple of achromatic close-up lenses. This turns my 50-200 kit lens into a very easy to use macro lens. The fidelity with either the 5T (62mm, 1.5 diopters), the 6T (3.0 diopter) Nikon, a Canon (58mm 2.0 diopter) 500T or a 52mm filter sized Sigma Achromatic Macro lens (1.6 diopter) I own make macro shooting a breeze. Of course the screw on Canon or Nikon achromatic close-up lenses can also be screwed onto my Takumar f1.9 85mm, my f2.5 135mm or my f4 200mm Takumar primes. I then take along a set of extension tubes to short focus the 200mm prime and I have a great field kit that can get really close. I also like to use an f4 100mm macro Takumar. The 1:2 close focusing can get even closer when I use step-up filter rings to use the close-up lenses on the front of the 42mm filter sized 100mm lens. My next lens will probably be a fast DFA macro, such as the latest 100mm macro. Richard Bush On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:16 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: And don't forget, the SMC PENTAX-A 70-210mm covers full frame that may come in handy in the future if and when Pentax gets around to releasing a professonal FF digital SLR. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Eric Weir Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lenses again, again On Jul 22, 2010, at 6:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It they are the same price go with the 70-210. From my own experience, I have a number of 70=210 lenses, the SMC Pentax F f4.0~5.6 the vmc Vivitar Series 1, f2.8~4.0, (the third version of that lens with the A contracts), and the Vivitar Series 1 f3.5, (the second version, no A contracts), and the M 200 f4.0. The latter two lenses don't see much use. The inability to use open aperture metering makes them just two inconvenient, dispute their wonderful optics.. I did some testing of all of those lenses at 200mm and found the difference in quality to be too small for me to notice. By all accounts the A 70-210 is very good optically maybe better than the SMCP F 70-210 or either Vivitar. The only reason to go with the M 200 is if you want to pair down the weight you're carrying around. The A 70-210 is somewhat heavier.. Thanks, PJ. I hear a preference for prime lenses, but the ability to control aperture from the camera body really appeals to me. The folks quoted about the a 70-210 on Stan Halpin's site spoke very highly of it. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lenses again, again
I have lots of images shot with that zoom that are excellent. I have 2 copies of it because my oldest daughter fell in love with it. It is highly recommended in my book. I also have shot a fair bit with that particular 200 and it does not produce as contrasty of images. They tend to be a bit muted. Definitely the zoom in this case. I can show you a bunch of images shot with it if you like. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I've won an SMC A 28mm f2.8 on eBay for $90. Other sellers were asking a little to a lot more. I'm also thinking about a telephoto lens. If it was between an SMC A 70-210mm F4 Macro and an SMC M 200mm f4, both about the same price. Assuming a limited budget, and limited set of lenses already in hand, what would you choose? [My camera's a *ist DS.] -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lenses again, again
On Jul 22, 2010, at 16:50, Eric Weir wrote: I've won an SMC A 28mm f2.8 on eBay for $90. Other sellers were asking a little to a lot more. Sweet! That's about what I paid for mine a few years ago. Handy and relatively tiny. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
