Re: Lightroom 2.7 question: how to edit 2 pictures side by side
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: Sam - If the pix with the correct white balance were taken under the same lighting as the incorrect ones, try setting the the color temperature and tint on one of the bad ones to the same as the good ones. That should get you started in the ballpark. If that looks good the sync it up with the others. I uploaded some photos to my smugmug account so you can see what it looks like for me. Here is the set of photos in Lightroom's Library Module http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Photography/For-Photographys-Sake/Lightroom-screenshot-of-mixed/979104290_LXNCJ-M.jpg Here is a shot of a photo where the white balance was set correctly by the camera. It is in the Develop Module. Under basic, the color and tint sliders are set to 0. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Photography/For-Photographys-Sake/Lightroom-good-white-balance/979104415_7bEu7-M.jpg Here is a shot where the white balance was wrong in the camera. Develop Module. Again, color and tint sliders are set to 0. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Photography/For-Photographys-Sake/Lightroom-bad-white-balance/979104324_pvy9u-M.jpg Am I missing something or looking in the wrong place? I had some fun last night moving the sliders all over the place. My images got pretty trippy looking. Which was fun, but I was having a hell of a time trying to get them to look normal. Here's an example of where I ended up ... http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Photography/For-Photographys-Sake/Charlette-Overdeveloped/979120186_LL2Az-M.jpg Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.7 question: how to edit 2 pictures side by side
JPEG files don't have white balance information in them, so Lightroom sets the sliders to neutral. LR also doesn't have any WB presets for JPEG files, it's all manual control. On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: I uploaded some photos to my smugmug account so you can see what it looks like for me. Here is the set of photos in Lightroom's Library Module http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Photography/For-Photographys-Sake/Lightroom-screenshot-of-mixed/979104290_LXNCJ-M.jpg Here is a shot of a photo where the white balance was set correctly by the camera. It is in the Develop Module. Under basic, the color and tint sliders are set to 0. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Photography/For-Photographys-Sake/Lightroom-good-white-balance/979104415_7bEu7-M.jpg Here is a shot where the white balance was wrong in the camera. Develop Module. Again, color and tint sliders are set to 0. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Photography/For-Photographys-Sake/Lightroom-bad-white-balance/979104324_pvy9u-M.jpg Am I missing something or looking in the wrong place? I had some fun last night moving the sliders all over the place. My images got pretty trippy looking. Which was fun, but I was having a hell of a time trying to get them to look normal. Here's an example of where I ended up ... http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Photography/For-Photographys-Sake/Charlette-Overdeveloped/979120186_LL2Az-M.jpg Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.7 question: how to edit 2 pictures side by side
What I do in these situations is pick a spot on one photo that I can use as a white balance/density reference. Then walk through each exposure and adjust WB slider and exposure until they match. That gets in the ballpark pretty easily. In LR3, there's a new function called Match Total Exposure. Adjust one out of a set of varied exposures, then select the others and use this function, LR3 will try to produce an average exposure for all that is very close. It does an amazing job. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a set of photos I shot where the WB was set to Tungsten. Halfway through the shoot I chimped and fixed this. Pictures were all shot in jpg on my K-x. What I'd like to do is to copy the color settings from the good pictures over to the pictures that have tungsten white balance. I tried selecting the appropriate pictures and using the sync feature. No luck on that. How do you recommend I get the colors corrected and consistent? It seems like it would be very handy to be able to view 2 images (the good one and the bad one) simultaneously so that when I move the sliders around I can immediately know if I'm helping or hurting. I was able to view side-by-side images only in the library module, but not in the develop module. Am I missing something here? I've been lazy about digging out photos to share with the list. Here is my apology, in the form of a gallery of my new son, who is now 2 weeks old. Most of the photos were from a DA40, but the last 4 were shot with my Super Tak 85/1.9. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Family/2010-Introducing-Winston/13315386_Vk7vn#967866225_fXaL3 Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.7 question: how to edit 2 pictures side by side
Once I have tweaked my first image to satisfaction I can then apply the same adjustments to my other photos. The big hurdle is getting the first one adjusted to match the set where the white balance was set correctly. I'm such a n00b w LR that I am fumbling pretty blindly with the sliders and white balance dropper. Sent from my phone. On Aug 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Alastair Robertson kiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote: You can sync white settings in jpgs in Lightroom just fine. Get the white balance setting right in one photo and while still in the develop module, select the other pictures that you want to duplicate the white balance settings in. You should see your master has a whiter surround in the filmstrip than the other selected photos - this indicates that it is the master selection and any sync commands will use this photo's settings as the blueprint to apply to the others. Click the Sync button (this only appears when you have more than one photo selected) and a dialog box will come up. Check the settings you want to sync - in this case the white balance, and leave the others boxes unchecked and then hit 'Synchronise' and it's done! Easy and saves heaps of time. You can synch any develop settings this way Alastair On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations on the new family member. You'll just have to fool with the white balance. I came across 25-30 year old photos from the delivery room yesterday. You won't mind the odd colors in 25 years. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a set of photos I shot where the WB was set to Tungsten. Halfway through the shoot I chimped and fixed this. Pictures were all shot in jpg on my K-x. What I'd like to do is to copy the color settings from the good pictures over to the pictures that have tungsten white balance. I tried selecting the appropriate pictures and using the sync feature. No luck on that. How do you recommend I get the colors corrected and consistent? It seems like it would be very handy to be able to view 2 images (the good one and the bad one) simultaneously so that when I move the sliders around I can immediately know if I'm helping or hurting. I was able to view side-by-side images only in the library module, but not in the develop module. Am I missing something here? I've been lazy about digging out photos to share with the list. Here is my apology, in the form of a gallery of my new son, who is now 2 weeks old. Most of the photos were from a DA40, but the last 4 were shot with my Super Tak 85/1.9. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Family/2010-Introducing-Winston/13315386_Vk7vn#967866225_fXaL3 Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lightroom 2.7 question: how to edit 2 pictures side by side
LR should show you the colour temperature of the pictures you like. You can type that same colour temperature into the ones you want to change - you don't have to use the dropper or the sliders. Bob Once I have tweaked my first image to satisfaction I can then apply the same adjustments to my other photos. The big hurdle is getting the first one adjusted to match the set where the white balance was set correctly. I'm such a n00b w LR that I am fumbling pretty blindly with the sliders and white balance dropper. Sent from my phone. On Aug 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Alastair Robertson kiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote: You can sync white settings in jpgs in Lightroom just fine. Get the white balance setting right in one photo and while still in the develop module, select the other pictures that you want to duplicate the white balance settings in. You should see your master has a whiter surround in the filmstrip than the other selected photos - this indicates that it is the master selection and any sync commands will use this photo's settings as the blueprint to apply to the others. Click the Sync button (this only appears when you have more than one photo selected) and a dialog box will come up. Check the settings you want to sync - in this case the white balance, and leave the others boxes unchecked and then hit 'Synchronise' and it's done! Easy and saves heaps of time. You can synch any develop settings this way Alastair On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations on the new family member. You'll just have to fool with the white balance. I came across 25-30 year old photos from the delivery room yesterday. You won't mind the odd colors in 25 years. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a set of photos I shot where the WB was set to Tungsten. Halfway through the shoot I chimped and fixed this. Pictures were all shot in jpg on my K-x. What I'd like to do is to copy the color settings from the good pictures over to the pictures that have tungsten white balance. I tried selecting the appropriate pictures and using the sync feature. No luck on that. How do you recommend I get the colors corrected and consistent? It seems like it would be very handy to be able to view 2 images (the good one and the bad one) simultaneously so that when I move the sliders around I can immediately know if I'm helping or hurting. I was able to view side-by-side images only in the library module, but not in the develop module. Am I missing something here? I've been lazy about digging out photos to share with the list. Here is my apology, in the form of a gallery of my new son, who is now 2 weeks old. Most of the photos were from a DA40, but the last 4 were shot with my Super Tak 85/1.9. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Family/2010-Introducing- Winston/13315 386_Vk7vn#967866225_fXaL3 Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.7 question: how to edit 2 pictures side by side
Sam - If the pix with the correct white balance were taken under the same lighting as the incorrect ones, try setting the the color temperature and tint on one of the bad ones to the same as the good ones. That should get you started in the ballpark. If that looks good the sync it up with the others. -p On 8/21/2010 4:20 PM, Sam wrote: Once I have tweaked my first image to satisfaction I can then apply the same adjustments to my other photos. The big hurdle is getting the first one adjusted to match the set where the white balance was set correctly. I'm such a n00b w LR that I am fumbling pretty blindly with the sliders and white balance dropper. Sent from my phone. On Aug 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Alastair Robertsonkiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote: You can sync white settings in jpgs in Lightroom just fine. Get the white balance setting right in one photo and while still in the develop module, select the other pictures that you want to duplicate the white balance settings in. You should see your master has a whiter surround in the filmstrip than the other selected photos - this indicates that it is the master selection and any sync commands will use this photo's settings as the blueprint to apply to the others. Click the Sync button (this only appears when you have more than one photo selected) and a dialog box will come up. Check the settings you want to sync - in this case the white balance, and leave the others boxes unchecked and then hit 'Synchronise' and it's done! Easy and saves heaps of time. You can synch any develop settings this way Alastair On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations on the new family member. You'll just have to fool with the white balance. I came across 25-30 year old photos from the delivery room yesterday. You won't mind the odd colors in 25 years. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Sam Lsamthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a set of photos I shot where the WB was set to Tungsten. Halfway through the shoot I chimped and fixed this. Pictures were all shot in jpg on my K-x. What I'd like to do is to copy the color settings from the good pictures over to the pictures that have tungsten white balance. I tried selecting the appropriate pictures and using the sync feature. No luck on that. How do you recommend I get the colors corrected and consistent? It seems like it would be very handy to be able to view 2 images (the good one and the bad one) simultaneously so that when I move the sliders around I can immediately know if I'm helping or hurting. I was able to view side-by-side images only in the library module, but not in the develop module. Am I missing something here? I've been lazy about digging out photos to share with the list. Here is my apology, in the form of a gallery of my new son, who is now 2 weeks old. Most of the photos were from a DA40, but the last 4 were shot with my Super Tak 85/1.9. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Family/2010-Introducing-Winston/13315386_Vk7vn#967866225_fXaL3 Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3085 - Release Date: 08/21/10 01:35:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lightroom 2.7 question: how to edit 2 pictures side by side
Hi all, I have a set of photos I shot where the WB was set to Tungsten. Halfway through the shoot I chimped and fixed this. Pictures were all shot in jpg on my K-x. What I'd like to do is to copy the color settings from the good pictures over to the pictures that have tungsten white balance. I tried selecting the appropriate pictures and using the sync feature. No luck on that. How do you recommend I get the colors corrected and consistent? It seems like it would be very handy to be able to view 2 images (the good one and the bad one) simultaneously so that when I move the sliders around I can immediately know if I'm helping or hurting. I was able to view side-by-side images only in the library module, but not in the develop module. Am I missing something here? I've been lazy about digging out photos to share with the list. Here is my apology, in the form of a gallery of my new son, who is now 2 weeks old. Most of the photos were from a DA40, but the last 4 were shot with my Super Tak 85/1.9. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Family/2010-Introducing-Winston/13315386_Vk7vn#967866225_fXaL3 Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lightroom 2.7 question: how to edit 2 pictures side by side
Hi all, I have a set of photos I shot where the WB was set to Tungsten. Halfway through the shoot I chimped and fixed this. Pictures were all shot in jpg on my K-x. What I'd like to do is to copy the color settings from the good pictures over to the pictures that have tungsten white balance. I tried selecting the appropriate pictures and using the sync feature. No luck on that. sync settings only synchronises the settings that you have applied using Lightroom. You ought to shoot raw rather than jpeg - raw does not commit you to anything in-camera. How do you recommend I get the colors corrected and consistent? I would recommend you use the white balance pipette thing to find the colour value of one of the whites in the photo you like, then apply the setting manually to the corresponding area of the photo you don't like. Because you've shot in jpeg you've lost a lot of room to manoeuvre though, depending on how different the values are right now. It seems like it would be very handy to be able to view 2 images (the good one and the bad one) simultaneously so that when I move the sliders around I can immediately know if I'm helping or hurting. I was able to view side-by-side images only in the library module, but not in the develop module. Am I missing something here? In the Develop module you can use the Before / After view to see the effect of your editing on the current picture. I've been lazy about digging out photos to share with the list. Here is my apology, in the form of a gallery of my new son, who is now 2 weeks old. Most of the photos were from a DA40, but the last 4 were shot with my Super Tak 85/1.9. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Family/2010-Introducing- Winston/13315386_Vk7vn#967866225_fXaL3 Congratulations! They all look like Winston Churchill when they're born - he'll grow out of it, don't you worry. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.7 question: how to edit 2 pictures side by side
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: sync settings only synchronises the settings that you have applied using Lightroom. You ought to shoot raw rather than jpeg - raw does not commit you to anything in-camera. That's what I was figuring, but couldn't find the right words to express my suspicion. How do you recommend I get the colors corrected and consistent? I would recommend you use the white balance pipette thing to find the colour value of one of the whites in the photo you like, then apply the setting manually to the corresponding area of the photo you don't like. Because you've shot in jpeg you've lost a lot of room to manoeuvre though, depending on how different the values are right now. Bummer. This is what I was trying to do and it was painfully tedious, and very hit or miss (almost exclusively miss). In the Develop module you can use the Before / After view to see the effect of your editing on the current picture. This helps a little, but I still feel like I'm stumbling around blindly hoping to pull some lever to make a positive change. Congratulations! They all look like Winston Churchill when they're born - he'll grow out of it, don't you worry. Thanks for the reassurance. We were very concerned!;-) --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.7 question: how to edit 2 pictures side by side
Congratulations on the new family member. You'll just have to fool with the white balance. I came across 25-30 year old photos from the delivery room yesterday. You won't mind the odd colors in 25 years. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a set of photos I shot where the WB was set to Tungsten. Halfway through the shoot I chimped and fixed this. Pictures were all shot in jpg on my K-x. What I'd like to do is to copy the color settings from the good pictures over to the pictures that have tungsten white balance. I tried selecting the appropriate pictures and using the sync feature. No luck on that. How do you recommend I get the colors corrected and consistent? It seems like it would be very handy to be able to view 2 images (the good one and the bad one) simultaneously so that when I move the sliders around I can immediately know if I'm helping or hurting. I was able to view side-by-side images only in the library module, but not in the develop module. Am I missing something here? I've been lazy about digging out photos to share with the list. Here is my apology, in the form of a gallery of my new son, who is now 2 weeks old. Most of the photos were from a DA40, but the last 4 were shot with my Super Tak 85/1.9. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Family/2010-Introducing-Winston/13315386_Vk7vn#967866225_fXaL3 Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 2.7 question: how to edit 2 pictures side by side
You can sync white settings in jpgs in Lightroom just fine. Get the white balance setting right in one photo and while still in the develop module, select the other pictures that you want to duplicate the white balance settings in. You should see your master has a whiter surround in the filmstrip than the other selected photos - this indicates that it is the master selection and any sync commands will use this photo's settings as the blueprint to apply to the others. Click the Sync button (this only appears when you have more than one photo selected) and a dialog box will come up. Check the settings you want to sync - in this case the white balance, and leave the others boxes unchecked and then hit 'Synchronise' and it's done! Easy and saves heaps of time. You can synch any develop settings this way Alastair On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations on the new family member. You'll just have to fool with the white balance. I came across 25-30 year old photos from the delivery room yesterday. You won't mind the odd colors in 25 years. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a set of photos I shot where the WB was set to Tungsten. Halfway through the shoot I chimped and fixed this. Pictures were all shot in jpg on my K-x. What I'd like to do is to copy the color settings from the good pictures over to the pictures that have tungsten white balance. I tried selecting the appropriate pictures and using the sync feature. No luck on that. How do you recommend I get the colors corrected and consistent? It seems like it would be very handy to be able to view 2 images (the good one and the bad one) simultaneously so that when I move the sliders around I can immediately know if I'm helping or hurting. I was able to view side-by-side images only in the library module, but not in the develop module. Am I missing something here? I've been lazy about digging out photos to share with the list. Here is my apology, in the form of a gallery of my new son, who is now 2 weeks old. Most of the photos were from a DA40, but the last 4 were shot with my Super Tak 85/1.9. http://samtheeagle.smugmug.com/Family/2010-Introducing-Winston/13315386_Vk7vn#967866225_fXaL3 Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
