Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
The modern versions of VB will let you do it. In the bad old days you'd need a batch script or two and a specially written exe or two to get it done, (don't ask how I know that, I might give some details). graywolf wrote: I it were unix/linux a simple script would do it, in windblows I have never found a simple way to do it. Maybe someone will come up with one, so I will watch this thread. I have a program (freeware, I think) called winmerge that can do some interesting things like compare files and merge in the ones that are missing. That I think can do what you want, but he interface is not what I would call easy to figure out. Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Thibouille wrote: I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my Lightroom library. The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg. I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only available in Jpeg. I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist in Dng format. Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program that myself with mighty Delphi ? Thanks ! -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
I've just tested it from the command line (therefore using % instead of %%) and it works. It only finds files in the current directory, although it can easily be changed to search other directories. If there are no .jpg files, or no matching .dng files then it won't do anything. In other words, if you have a file called waters.jpg and a copy of the picture in a file called roger.dng it won't recognise that they are the same. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: 31 December 2007 23:50 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?) I replaced del with echo and all i got was Is there any body out there, que Pink Floyd Dave On Dec 31, 2007 2:03 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've accepted the challenge I set you, and come up with an answer: for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%~nf.dng del %%~nf.jpg I haven't tested this as written, so it's at your own risk. You could try replacing 'del' with 'echo' to see what will be deleted. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: 31 December 2007 18:11 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Lightroom question (Godfrey?) I have had a dig around in Lightroom but nothing leaps out as an easy way to do it. However, I don't think you need to use Delphi to do what you want - it should be quite straightforward to do with a batch script in Windows. I'd need to refresh my knowledge of this quite a bit to come up with a working script, but your starter for 10 is something like this: for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%f.dng del %%f.jpg Your challenge is to split the extension off the variable and replace it with .dng -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: 31 December 2007 17:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?) I it were unix/linux a simple script would do it, in windblows I have never found a simple way to do it. Maybe someone will come up with one, so I will watch this thread. I have a program (freeware, I think) called winmerge that can do some interesting things like compare files and merge in the ones that are missing. That I think can do what you want, but he interface is not what I would call easy to figure out. Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ -- - Thibouille wrote: I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my Lightroom library. The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg. I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only available in Jpeg. I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist in Dng format. Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program that myself with mighty Delphi ? Thanks ! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
Thanks to all who responded to my problem. I will try and see what solution seems the best for me. I will let you know what I used. As usual I notice Godfrey knows about any bits from Lightroom. Godfrey, were you involved in the coding of it or something? ;) Cheers... and Happy New Year to you all !! -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
On Jan 1, 2008, at 3:44 AM, Thibouille wrote: ... As usual I notice Godfrey knows about any bits from Lightroom. Godfrey, were you involved in the coding of it or something? ;) No, but I use it all day, every day, and study it in order to exploit it to the max. :-) HNY! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
It would be possible to check for byte by byte comparisons, by using FC a dos utility available on all windows systems to delete duplicate files no matter what their name, I'm sure that linux/unix has such a utility but I can't remember it's name right now. There are several problems to overcome, none of which will solve the most important one. There must be a way for the computer to recognize a duplicate image, not a duplicate file. It's easy enough to write something that will delete files with the same name in the same or different directories. A bit more complicated to recognize and delete duplicate files with different names, (and this begins to become time consuming), but I know of no foolproof method to automate deletion of duplicate visual images, at least not with the computing power available in a PC or Mac. Bob W wrote: I've just tested it from the command line (therefore using % instead of %%) and it works. It only finds files in the current directory, although it can easily be changed to search other directories. If there are no .jpg files, or no matching .dng files then it won't do anything. In other words, if you have a file called waters.jpg and a copy of the picture in a file called roger.dng it won't recognise that they are the same. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: 31 December 2007 23:50 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?) I replaced del with echo and all i got was Is there any body out there, que Pink Floyd Dave On Dec 31, 2007 2:03 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've accepted the challenge I set you, and come up with an answer: for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%~nf.dng del %%~nf.jpg I haven't tested this as written, so it's at your own risk. You could try replacing 'del' with 'echo' to see what will be deleted. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: 31 December 2007 18:11 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Lightroom question (Godfrey?) I have had a dig around in Lightroom but nothing leaps out as an easy way to do it. However, I don't think you need to use Delphi to do what you want - it should be quite straightforward to do with a batch script in Windows. I'd need to refresh my knowledge of this quite a bit to come up with a working script, but your starter for 10 is something like this: for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%f.dng del %%f.jpg Your challenge is to split the extension off the variable and replace it with .dng -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: 31 December 2007 17:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?) I it were unix/linux a simple script would do it, in windblows I have never found a simple way to do it. Maybe someone will come up with one, so I will watch this thread. I have a program (freeware, I think) called winmerge that can do some interesting things like compare files and merge in the ones that are missing. That I think can do what you want, but he interface is not what I would call easy to figure out. Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ -- - Thibouille wrote: I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my Lightroom library. The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg. I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only available in Jpeg. I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist in Dng format. Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program that myself with mighty Delphi ? Thanks ! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net
Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
P. J. Alling wrote: It would be possible to check for byte by byte comparisons, by using FC a dos utility available on all windows systems to delete duplicate files no matter what their name, I'm sure that linux/unix has such a utility but I can't remember it's name right now. There are several problems to overcome, none of which will solve the most important one. There must be a way for the computer to recognize a duplicate image, not a duplicate file. If one is in JPEG format and the other is in a straight bitmapped format like TIFF/RAW/DNG they won't be the same image, technically. They certainly won't be the same byte-for-byte. Not even close. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
I was responding to someone who made the complaint that they couldn't delete the same image with different names. Just going through all the reasons it would be difficult or impossible. (I kind of thought your point was implied). Mark Roberts wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: It would be possible to check for byte by byte comparisons, by using FC a dos utility available on all windows systems to delete duplicate files no matter what their name, I'm sure that linux/unix has such a utility but I can't remember it's name right now. There are several problems to overcome, none of which will solve the most important one. There must be a way for the computer to recognize a duplicate image, not a duplicate file. If one is in JPEG format and the other is in a straight bitmapped format like TIFF/RAW/DNG they won't be the same image, technically. They certainly won't be the same byte-for-byte. Not even close. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
P. J. Alling wrote: I was responding to someone who made the complaint that they couldn't delete the same image with different names. Just going through all the reasons it would be difficult or impossible. (I kind of thought your point was implied). Ah, sorry. That's what I get for not reading the discussion from the beginning. I think there is software that will do this byte-for-byte comparison to find duplicate images, but I've never looked into it because *my* problem is having multiple copies of an image that are almost, but *not quite* identical ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my Lightroom library. The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg. I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only available in Jpeg. I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist in Dng format. Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program that myself with mighty Delphi ? Thanks ! -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
I it were unix/linux a simple script would do it, in windblows I have never found a simple way to do it. Maybe someone will come up with one, so I will watch this thread. I have a program (freeware, I think) called winmerge that can do some interesting things like compare files and merge in the ones that are missing. That I think can do what you want, but he interface is not what I would call easy to figure out. Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Thibouille wrote: I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my Lightroom library. The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg. I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only available in Jpeg. I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist in Dng format. Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program that myself with mighty Delphi ? Thanks ! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
I have had a dig around in Lightroom but nothing leaps out as an easy way to do it. However, I don't think you need to use Delphi to do what you want - it should be quite straightforward to do with a batch script in Windows. I'd need to refresh my knowledge of this quite a bit to come up with a working script, but your starter for 10 is something like this: for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%f.dng del %%f.jpg Your challenge is to split the extension off the variable and replace it with .dng -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: 31 December 2007 17:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?) I it were unix/linux a simple script would do it, in windblows I have never found a simple way to do it. Maybe someone will come up with one, so I will watch this thread. I have a program (freeware, I think) called winmerge that can do some interesting things like compare files and merge in the ones that are missing. That I think can do what you want, but he interface is not what I would call easy to figure out. Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ -- - Thibouille wrote: I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my Lightroom library. The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg. I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only available in Jpeg. I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist in Dng format. Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program that myself with mighty Delphi ? Thanks ! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
I've accepted the challenge I set you, and come up with an answer: for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%~nf.dng del %%~nf.jpg I haven't tested this as written, so it's at your own risk. You could try replacing 'del' with 'echo' to see what will be deleted. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: 31 December 2007 18:11 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Lightroom question (Godfrey?) I have had a dig around in Lightroom but nothing leaps out as an easy way to do it. However, I don't think you need to use Delphi to do what you want - it should be quite straightforward to do with a batch script in Windows. I'd need to refresh my knowledge of this quite a bit to come up with a working script, but your starter for 10 is something like this: for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%f.dng del %%f.jpg Your challenge is to split the extension off the variable and replace it with .dng -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: 31 December 2007 17:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?) I it were unix/linux a simple script would do it, in windblows I have never found a simple way to do it. Maybe someone will come up with one, so I will watch this thread. I have a program (freeware, I think) called winmerge that can do some interesting things like compare files and merge in the ones that are missing. That I think can do what you want, but he interface is not what I would call easy to figure out. Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ -- - Thibouille wrote: I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my Lightroom library. The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg. I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only available in Jpeg. I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist in Dng format. Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program that myself with mighty Delphi ? Thanks ! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
On Dec 31, 2007, at 3:08 AM, Thibouille wrote: I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my Lightroom library. The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg. I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only available in Jpeg. I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist in Dng format. Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program that myself with mighty Delphi ? The problem can be simple or complex to solve depending on the following issues: - whether or not the file names are the same up to the extension (IMGP2002.jpg and IMGP2002.dng, for example, indicate a high likelihood that you have the same image in two different file representations; however, you might have 'birthday-2005.jpg' and IMGP2002.dng which are actually the same image). - whether or not you have edited and want to save a particular JPEG rendering in addition to a DNG rendering of the image at hand (you might have a JPEG rendering which is identical to what you have done to the current DNG, but then again you might have edited one or the other further). - whether the metadata is preserved in your JPEG files. I selected about 800 images drawn from several libraries that I needed to coalesce into the unique files. Try as I might, I could not think of a logical way to accommodate all three of the above issues via scripting alone. What I did was to use Lightroom's Library/Grid view and the metadata browser along with the various Pick and Quick Collection tools to winnow out the unique ones. The methodology I used was multiple passes like the following: - Select all - set the Pick flags to null - set the color labels to none - unselect all - set sort by capture time - use metadata browser to select all JPEGs - set JPEGs to red If the metadata is there in all the files, you can see which have duplicates pretty quickly. Walk through them fast and mark all the duplicates with a Pick flag or put them in the quick collection. Once you've got them in the quick collection, or with pick flags, filter the view to just those, select all. Turn off the filter (the selected ones will be highlighted), invert the selection (you've now got the uniques selected) and create a collection including all the unique ones. Now go to the Quick collection and walk through the duplicates, you should see which are JPEG and which are DNG (or whatever) pretty easily. Mark those which you want to delete from library or disk with a delete flag. When you're sure, use the filtering to get just those up, delete them, and scan through the whole set again to find any other duplications with variant names, etc. My path through this was complicated by the fact that I had not just DNG and JPEGs to sort out but other potential duplicates in TIFF and PSD format as well. It took me a day or so to get that 800 files edited down to the unique and best 460 or so, all in DNG or TIFF/PSD format with the edits I wanted. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?)
I replaced del with echo and all i got was Is there any body out there, que Pink Floyd Dave On Dec 31, 2007 2:03 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've accepted the challenge I set you, and come up with an answer: for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%~nf.dng del %%~nf.jpg I haven't tested this as written, so it's at your own risk. You could try replacing 'del' with 'echo' to see what will be deleted. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: 31 December 2007 18:11 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Lightroom question (Godfrey?) I have had a dig around in Lightroom but nothing leaps out as an easy way to do it. However, I don't think you need to use Delphi to do what you want - it should be quite straightforward to do with a batch script in Windows. I'd need to refresh my knowledge of this quite a bit to come up with a working script, but your starter for 10 is something like this: for %%f in (*.jpg) do if exist %%f.dng del %%f.jpg Your challenge is to split the extension off the variable and replace it with .dng -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: 31 December 2007 17:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom question (Godfrey?) I it were unix/linux a simple script would do it, in windblows I have never found a simple way to do it. Maybe someone will come up with one, so I will watch this thread. I have a program (freeware, I think) called winmerge that can do some interesting things like compare files and merge in the ones that are missing. That I think can do what you want, but he interface is not what I would call easy to figure out. Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ -- - Thibouille wrote: I discovered I have multiple copies of some pictures in my Lightroom library. The thing is one copy is Dng and the other is Jpeg. I don't want to kill all Jpegs since some pictures are only available in Jpeg. I would simply wanna kill all Jpeg copies which also exist in Dng format. Is there a way to do that in Lightroom or shall I program that myself with mighty Delphi ? Thanks ! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
