Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-11 Thread Ken Waller
Should be ULH corner .


-Original Message-
>From: Ken Waller 
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>
>Makes a very nice abstract as posted.
>
>The draw for me is the progression of the foreground rocks leading you into 
>the image, across the top and then exiting in the URH corner with the wet 
>sand pools adjacent to the foreground rocks nicely filling the frame.
>
>Well done.
>
>Kenneth Waller
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>
>- Original Message ----- 
>From: "P. J. Alling" 
>Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO
>
>
>> It's a nice composition.  It's the kind of thing you might see printed big 
>> and hung in a boardroom.
>>
>>
>> On 7/10/2017 2:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one 
>>> that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses, 
>>> which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented 
>>> positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped 
>>> a lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in 
>>> re-composition.
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-11 Thread ann sanfedele
I think it is cropped too tight on the top... and since it is nearly 
colorless, a black and white version might make me like it a bit more..
The curve is nice, but the lack of contrast and the blandness of color 
keep me from loving it.


ann

On 7/11/2017 5:53 AM, Jostein wrote:

Larry,
Without the original frame it's hard to tell what compromises I would 
have made in the cropping if it was mine. So just a couple of 
observations... :-)
The arc of the stones works very well as a main motif in the 
composition. The way they are angled to the left make them look like a 
palisade. The sand and puddles in between makes me imagine that they 
obstinately try to resist the eroding forces of the waves or 
something. I like to imagine such things... :-)

The crop on the RH side seems just right to inforce the arc.

The space in the lower left and the puddles becomes part of the same 
narrative, and maybe (just maybe, right?) it would be even more 
effective if it was a bit larger, to make the stones look more lonely 
in their struggle, if that makes any sense.


The top edge is the only one that doesn't frame the narrative 
properly, in my opinion. There is an object at the edge almost in the 
upper RH corner that draws my attention. I would be strongly tempted 
to use the clone tool... :-)


There is also a colur echo of the rim of the puddles in the sliver of 
water up there that maybe could be incorporated into the composition. 
I also think that the arc of stones would benefit from being a little 
further from the edge in the upper LH corner.


But hey, it's your shot man, and it's pretty good as it is.

Jostein

Den 10.07.2017 08.42, skrev Larry Colen:
A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is 
one that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and 
weaknesses, which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend 
just commented positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give 
it a try. I cropped a lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot 
of latitude in re-composition.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/







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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-11 Thread Jostein

Larry,
Without the original frame it's hard to tell what compromises I would 
have made in the cropping if it was mine. So just a couple of 
observations... :-)
The arc of the stones works very well as a main motif in the 
composition. The way they are angled to the left make them look like a 
palisade. The sand and puddles in between makes me imagine that they 
obstinately try to resist the eroding forces of the waves or something. 
I like to imagine such things... :-)

The crop on the RH side seems just right to inforce the arc.

The space in the lower left and the puddles becomes part of the same 
narrative, and maybe (just maybe, right?) it would be even more 
effective if it was a bit larger, to make the stones look more lonely in 
their struggle, if that makes any sense.


The top edge is the only one that doesn't frame the narrative properly, 
in my opinion. There is an object at the edge almost in the upper RH 
corner that draws my attention. I would be strongly tempted to use the 
clone tool... :-)


There is also a colur echo of the rim of the puddles in the sliver of 
water up there that maybe could be incorporated into the composition. I 
also think that the arc of stones would benefit from being a little 
further from the edge in the upper LH corner.


But hey, it's your shot man, and it's pretty good as it is.

Jostein

Den 10.07.2017 08.42, skrev Larry Colen:
A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is 
one that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and 
weaknesses, which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend 
just commented positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a 
try.  I cropped a lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of 
latitude in re-composition.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/




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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-10 Thread Ken Waller

Makes a very nice abstract as posted.

The draw for me is the progression of the foreground rocks leading you into 
the image, across the top and then exiting in the URH corner with the wet 
sand pools adjacent to the foreground rocks nicely filling the frame.


Well done.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" 

Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO


It's a nice composition.  It's the kind of thing you might see printed big 
and hung in a boardroom.



On 7/10/2017 2:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one 
that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses, 
which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented 
positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped 
a lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in 
re-composition.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/




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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-10 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)

What he said.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

On 7/10/2017 6:40 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

It's a pleasant scene with interesting detail and an excellent composition.

Paul via phone


On Jul 10, 2017, at 8:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

There is a sense of tranquility.

It resembles a zen garden to some extent.


Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
re-composition.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/



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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-10 Thread Paul in MKE

Damn - forgot to hit Reply List...hope this gets it back on track.

I think it was better with the water included.  It needs the wider view 
to emphasize the line of the rocks leading to the water and loses 
something with just the rocks and sand.


-p


On 7/10/2017 6:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Paul in MKE wrote:

Larry,

I like this a lot, but agree with Rick that you should crop out some of
the sky.  I liked putting the horizon about 1/3 down from the top, but
you need to be content about losing the 3:2 aspect ratio - don't take
anything off the sides.


Thanks Paul.  After Rick's post I slightly tweaked a copy to trim the 
little bit of water (actually a creek, not the ocean) out of the top:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35840242545/in/album-72157685968095156/ 



full set:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157685968095156



-p


On 7/10/2017 11:00 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



Rick Womer wrote:

Larry, that's beautiful. The curving line on rocks and the quiet beach
are very tranquil;, the pools with the blue reflections are very
intriguing.

My only suggestion would be to trim a bit off the top; the thin strip
of ocean is distracting.


Thank you very much.  I struggled a lot with where to crop the top of
that one, because when I trimmed the top like that, particularly if I
kept the 3:2 aspect ratio, I lost a bit more of something else.



Cheers,

Rick
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This
is one
that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and 
weaknesses,
which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just 
commented

positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I
cropped a
lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
re-composition.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/


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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-10 Thread Larry Colen



P. J. Alling wrote:

It's a nice composition. It's the kind of thing you might see printed
big and hung in a boardroom.


Thanks




On 7/10/2017 2:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it. This is
one that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and
weaknesses, which is why I didn't post it earlier. However a friend
just commented positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it
a try. I cropped a lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of
latitude in re-composition.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/






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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-10 Thread P. J. Alling
It's a nice composition.  It's the kind of thing you might see printed 
big and hung in a boardroom.



On 7/10/2017 2:42 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is 
one that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and 
weaknesses, which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend 
just commented positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it 
a try.  I cropped a lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of 
latitude in re-composition.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/




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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-10 Thread Larry Colen

Thanks Dan, also Paul, and others who looked or will look.

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

There is a sense of tranquility.

It resembles a zen garden to some extent.


Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
re-composition.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/


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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-10 Thread Larry Colen



Rick Womer wrote:

Larry, that's beautiful. The curving line on rocks and the quiet beach
are very tranquil;, the pools with the blue reflections are very
intriguing.

My only suggestion would be to trim a bit off the top; the thin strip
of ocean is distracting.


Thank you very much.  I struggled a lot with where to crop the top of 
that one, because when I trimmed the top like that, particularly if I 
kept the 3:2 aspect ratio, I lost a bit more of something else.




Cheers,

Rick
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
re-composition.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/


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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-10 Thread Rick Womer
Larry, that's beautiful. The curving line on rocks and the quiet beach
are very tranquil;, the pools with the blue reflections are very
intriguing.

My only suggestion would be to trim a bit off the top; the thin strip
of ocean is distracting.

Cheers,

Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
> that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
> which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
> positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
> lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
> re-composition.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/
>
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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's a pleasant scene with interesting detail and an excellent composition.

Paul via phone

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 8:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> There is a sense of tranquility.
> 
> It resembles a zen garden to some extent.
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
>> that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
>> which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
>> positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
>> lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
>> re-composition.
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/
>> 
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Re: Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
There is a sense of tranquility.

It resembles a zen garden to some extent.


Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:42 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is one
> that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and weaknesses,
> which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend just commented
> positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a try.  I cropped a
> lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of latitude in
> re-composition.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/
>
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Looking for feedback on a PESO

2017-07-09 Thread Larry Colen
A lot of the time when I post a photo, I know why I like it.  This is 
one that I don't have a good understanding of its strengths and 
weaknesses, which is why I didn't post it earlier.  However a friend 
just commented positively about it on flickr, so I thought I'd give it a 
try.  I cropped a lot out of the original frame, so there's a lot of 
latitude in re-composition.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/35691250121/


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