Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
On Jul 11, 2006, at 8:39 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: I'm not really satisfied with the sharpness - I guess I must try to use MF next time :-) BTW - they're all shot with Limited 77mm and FA 1.4 50mm. Take a look: http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html Any critics or advice is welcome, naturally ... For a glamour portrait, which I suppose is what you are after, the lighting ratio is usually set to be short. That is less difference between main light and fill light. The lighting ratio on these is all wrong. Not enough fill. This kind of lighting is more appropriate to an older male model, not the girl you were photographing. She is a professional model? She needs to relax her face more, since her smile looks very strained in some of these, very artificial. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Bob Shell wrote: lighting ratio is usually set to be short. That is less difference between main light and fill light. The lighting ratio on these is all wrong. Not enough fill. This kind of lighting is more Is this bad in that respect? http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-37321.jpg Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Model Night in the Camera Club
I like these best, myself: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594196654606/ Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jens Bladt Sendt: 12. juli 2006 02:39 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Model Night in the Camera Club Hello list Today was Model Night at the Camera Club. Great fun. A model from a local bureau was in the studio - an experienced club member showed us how to set the lights (I've been doing studio work for the last 14 years - but I still got some good advice). We all got the oportunity to take some shots (this was actually the second model night - since the studio is not big enough for all of us). I must say was difficult to concentrate . the studio was quite crowded. The model haas agrees to pose for me exclusivly some day soon ;-)) I'm not really satisfied with the sharpness - I guess I must try to use MF next time :-) BTW - they're all shot with Limited 77mm and FA 1.4 50mm. Take a look: http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html Any critics or advice is welcome, naturally ... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Model Night in the Camera Club
I think you ar right, Bob. The fill light was mostly a reflector screen, not properly set. I did the lighting myself for the shots where she's sitting the wrong way on a chair, myslef, though. She is semi professional model - a member of an amateur bureau. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Bob Shell Sendt: 12. juli 2006 12:49 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Model Night in the Camera Club On Jul 11, 2006, at 8:39 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: I'm not really satisfied with the sharpness - I guess I must try to use MF next time :-) BTW - they're all shot with Limited 77mm and FA 1.4 50mm. Take a look: http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html Any critics or advice is welcome, naturally ... For a glamour portrait, which I suppose is what you are after, the lighting ratio is usually set to be short. That is less difference between main light and fill light. The lighting ratio on these is all wrong. Not enough fill. This kind of lighting is more appropriate to an older male model, not the girl you were photographing. She is a professional model? She needs to relax her face more, since her smile looks very strained in some of these, very artificial. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Model Night in the Camera Club
Nope. I like shadows! BTW: I discovered that I must try to crop more in the actual recording. Some of the shots are cropped down to appr. 1/4 size. This means it's really 1.5 MP shots. Not more resolution than a decent cellphone camera ! Or I'll try to photograph her with my Pentacon 6x6 and a Schneider Kreutznach lens next time :-) It will provide 70 MP scans ! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Kostas Kavoussanakis Sendt: 12. juli 2006 13:03 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Model Night in the Camera Club On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Bob Shell wrote: lighting ratio is usually set to be short. That is less difference between main light and fill light. The lighting ratio on these is all wrong. Not enough fill. This kind of lighting is more Is this bad in that respect? http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-37321.jpg Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:02 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: lighting ratio is usually set to be short. That is less difference between main light and fill light. The lighting ratio on these is all wrong. Not enough fill. This kind of lighting is more Is this bad in that respect? http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-37321.jpg Kostas It's better than most of the others, but I'd still use a bit more fill. Her smile is terrible. She shows her gums and not her teeth! First thing I would do is tell her to shut her mouth and relax her face. She has what we used to call a coathanger in the mouth smile. Very strained. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
From: William Robb http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html Any critics or advice is welcome, naturally ... Shot from higher up. I like the lens axis to be somewhere around the same level as the nose. Bring your main light up a bit higher, and use more fill. And get a better looking model. Norm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Bob Shell wrote: On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:02 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: lighting ratio is usually set to be short. That is less difference between main light and fill light. The lighting ratio on these is all wrong. Not enough fill. This kind of lighting is more Is this bad in that respect? http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-37321.jpg It's better than most of the others, but I'd still use a bit more fill. Thanks Bob, much appreciated. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Model Night in the Camera Club
Bob, I like gums - it's very young and a bit naughty too, I think. But my fellow hobby photographera at the camera club would certainly agree with you ;-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Bob Shell Sendt: 12. juli 2006 14:42 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Model Night in the Camera Club On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:02 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: lighting ratio is usually set to be short. That is less difference between main light and fill light. The lighting ratio on these is all wrong. Not enough fill. This kind of lighting is more Is this bad in that respect? http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-37321.jpg Kostas It's better than most of the others, but I'd still use a bit more fill. Her smile is terrible. She shows her gums and not her teeth! First thing I would do is tell her to shut her mouth and relax her face. She has what we used to call a coathanger in the mouth smile. Very strained. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/385 - Release Date: 07/11/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
On 12/7/06, Norman Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: And get a better looking model. Why Norm I thought youm liked a bit of rough mate. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
On 7/12/06, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And get a better looking model. You're such a pig, Norm. I have to say, though, you're right... LOL cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
frank theriault wrote: On 7/12/06, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And get a better looking model. You're such a pig, Norm. I have to say, though, you're right... Norm, you should have phoned him up at 5: a.m. to tell him... -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
Spoken like a true slut?? Norm From: frank theriault On 7/12/06, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And get a better looking model. You're such a pig, Norm. I have to say, though, you're right... LOL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
-- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not ask the true slut? I have no opinion on this matter. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
On 7/12/06, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spoken like a true slut?? Why not ask the true slut? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
On 7/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no opinion on this matter. That's wise. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
Alright I give, who might that be? frank theriault wrote: On 7/12/06, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spoken like a true slut?? Why not ask the true slut? cheers, frank -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
On 7/12/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright I give, who might that be? Discretion prevents me from disclosing who it might be. I will tell you, however, that he lives in Panama City Florida, and his surname means killer of the moors, and his first name sounds a lot like a certain Roman Emperor who was killed by his best friend and then ended up in a Shakespeare play. I can say no more... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
Frank - make sure you don't mention the thing about the snakeskin LX... Norm From: frank theriault On 7/12/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright I give, who might that be? Discretion prevents me from disclosing who it might be. I will tell you, however, that he lives in Panama City Florida, and his surname means killer of the moors, and his first name sounds a lot like a certain Roman Emperor who was killed by his best friend and then ended up in a Shakespeare play. I can say no more... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
On 7/12/06, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank - make sure you don't mention the thing about the snakeskin LX... Aw, geez, now you've gone and given it away! Now we all know who it is. Way to go, Norm. Cesar must be really pissed at you now... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Model Night in the Camera Club
Hello list Today was Model Night at the Camera Club. Great fun. A model from a local bureau was in the studio - an experienced club member showed us how to set the lights (I've been doing studio work for the last 14 years - but I still got some good advice). We all got the oportunity to take some shots (this was actually the second model night - since the studio is not big enough for all of us). I must say was difficult to concentrate . the studio was quite crowded. The model haas agrees to pose for me exclusivly some day soon ;-)) I'm not really satisfied with the sharpness - I guess I must try to use MF next time :-) BTW - they're all shot with Limited 77mm and FA 1.4 50mm. Take a look: http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html Any critics or advice is welcome, naturally ... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Model Night in the Camera Club
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: Model Night in the Camera Club http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html Any critics or advice is welcome, naturally ... Shot from higher up. I like the lens axis to be somewhere around the same level as the nose. Bring your main light up a bit higher, and use more fill. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Model Night in the Camera Club
You're right Jens, it looks like the AF kept locking on her bangs. Nice job though, hard model to shoot. Deep set eyes and she needed some makeup to help the look of her complexion, it's rather shiny and not very smooth. I'm still patiently awaiting the DA 70, hope it's as nice as the 77! ;-) Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Model Night in the Camera Club Hello list Today was Model Night at the Camera Club. Great fun. A model from a local bureau was in the studio - an experienced club member showed us how to set the lights (I've been doing studio work for the last 14 years - but I still got some good advice). We all got the oportunity to take some shots (this was actually the second model night - since the studio is not big enough for all of us). I must say was difficult to concentrate . the studio was quite crowded. The model haas agrees to pose for me exclusivly some day soon ;-)) I'm not really satisfied with the sharpness - I guess I must try to use MF next time :-) BTW - they're all shot with Limited 77mm and FA 1.4 50mm. Take a look: http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html Any critics or advice is welcome, naturally ... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Model Night in the Camera Club
Thanks, you are right. Except the ceiling is quite low, so the lights won't go much higher ;-( Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af William Robb Sendt: 12. juli 2006 03:04 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Model Night in the Camera Club - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: Model Night in the Camera Club http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html Any critics or advice is welcome, naturally ... Shot from higher up. I like the lens axis to be somewhere around the same level as the nose. Bring your main light up a bit higher, and use more fill. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Model Night in the Camera Club
Thanks, Don. You are right. I'd make her use make up if I get the chance to shoot her again. I'm glad you noticed her deep set eyes - she is very beautiful IMO. I don't think focus is that far off - pehaps I hit her nose, not her eyes ;-( I'm looking foreard to hearing about the DA 70. You eill be psoting some shots, I suspect ;-)) Regards. Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Don Sanderson Sendt: 12. juli 2006 03:09 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: RE: Model Night in the Camera Club You're right Jens, it looks like the AF kept locking on her bangs. Nice job though, hard model to shoot. Deep set eyes and she needed some makeup to help the look of her complexion, it's rather shiny and not very smooth. I'm still patiently awaiting the DA 70, hope it's as nice as the 77! ;-) Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Model Night in the Camera Club Hello list Today was Model Night at the Camera Club. Great fun. A model from a local bureau was in the studio - an experienced club member showed us how to set the lights (I've been doing studio work for the last 14 years - but I still got some good advice). We all got the oportunity to take some shots (this was actually the second model night - since the studio is not big enough for all of us). I must say was difficult to concentrate . the studio was quite crowded. The model haas agrees to pose for me exclusivly some day soon ;-)) I'm not really satisfied with the sharpness - I guess I must try to use MF next time :-) BTW - they're all shot with Limited 77mm and FA 1.4 50mm. Take a look: http://www.jensbladt.dk/Modelnight/Pernille-site.html Any critics or advice is welcome, naturally ... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/384 - Release Date: 07/10/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
