Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD
Thanks to all who responded. The point of some computers not having an optical drive is a good one. In any case, - it looks like there course of action has changed anyway. So, in the end, I will not be distributing anything, except for a link to a password-protected website with HTML galleries. Igor PS. Larry, it looks like your messages didn't make it to the mail-archive-based web archive of the list: https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/ But it made it to the pdml.net own archive... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD
Still having occasional problems with SpamEatingMonkey & Earthlink's email servers. On 5/18/2017 01:33, Igor PDML-StR wrote: John Wed, 17 May 2017 16:12:19 -0700 wrote: Why does it need to be installed? Wouldn't just a CD with folders to organize the photos suffice? Not installed. I am considering that it would run a photo viewer or a web browser (unless autorun is disabled). That's for those who don't know what to do with Jpeg files.. Ok, the URL you included was about how to make cross platform *installation* CDs. My experience with Windoze, if you insert a CD with just image files & no autorun, it opens an AutoPlay Dialog, with options to import photos or to open the folder to view files using Windows Explorer. Windows default import setting copies the images into "My Pictures". In Explorer, you can double click the photo's icon and it will open in whatever photo program you have installed. If you don't already have a program installed for viewing photos, it opens with "Windows Photo Viewer. Probably the more important consideration though was Larry's point about so many of the newer computers no longer having CD/DVD drives. None of the MacBooks have them. I don't think even the iMacs have them anymore. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD
Hi Stan, On Thu, 18 May 2017 08:30:56 -0400 Stanley Halpin wrote: > >Thanks Jan! You're welcome! >> On May 18, 2017, at 5:54 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote: >> >> Actually, when preview is the one used (default unless changed by the user), >> it is quite easy to view a complete folder of JPG images. Just noticed you can even set it it to a 'slideshow' modus (after selecting all files). It is in the 'view' menu, just like the 'full screen'. Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com Flickr : jvw_pentax -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD
Thanks Jan! > On May 18, 2017, at 5:54 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote: > > > Actually, when preview is the one used (default unless changed by the user), > it is quite easy to view a complete folder of JPG images. > > > You use 'Finder' (the directory browser) to navigate to the folder, > double-click to open it. > > Once in the folder use 'cmd+A' to select all files, the double-click on any > of the selected ones to open all of them in preview. > > Preview has a sidebar with thumbnails, and you can use up/down arrow keys > to go through the set. You can also switch to full-screen mode, and the > arrow keys still work then (but the sidebar is gone :) > > To move to the next folder, close preview, and return to the 'finder' window. > > Regards, JvW > > -- > Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com > Flickr : jvw_pentax > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD
On Wed, 17 May 2017 21:01:25 -0400 Stanley Halpin wrote: > >>> But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a >>> set of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo >>> viewer (if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)? >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Igor >>> >> I believe it will totally depend on how the user preferences are set. On my >> iMac, a CD with folders of photos is just like any other set of folders. >> If/when I double-click on an actual image file (not a folder or sub-folder), then Something will rise up to digest that file and render it in all its glory. It might be Preview, it might be Photos, it might be Elements or it might be Lightroom. etc. All depends on Preferences. Most likely it will not be an app that will smoothly allow for right-arrow/left-arrow movement from image to image. A lot of open file, view, close file, and repeat Actually, when preview is the one used (default unless changed by the user), it is quite easy to view a complete folder of JPG images. You use 'Finder' (the directory browser) to navigate to the folder, double-click to open it. Once in the folder use 'cmd+A' to select all files, the double-click on any of the selected ones to open all of them in preview. Preview has a sidebar with thumbnails, and you can use up/down arrow keys to go through the set. You can also switch to full-screen mode, and the arrow keys still work then (but the sidebar is gone :) To move to the next folder, close preview, and return to the 'finder' window. Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com Flickr : jvw_pentax -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD
John Wed, 17 May 2017 16:12:19 -0700 wrote: Why does it need to be installed? Wouldn't just a CD with folders to organize the photos suffice? Not installed. I am considering that it would run a photo viewer or a web browser (unless autorun is disabled). That's for those who don't know what to do with Jpeg files.. Boris and Stan: Yes, I hear you, and I use a very similar way of passing photographs to people - via various *box cloud storage or my-own website. In this case, the format is chosen by the teachers. It's either because they are used to that, or because they want to give people something tangible (or both). I will try to talk to them, but I am not going to insist. (And I won't be burning all the CDs myself. ... probably ) Stan, thank you for offering to check the format.. Unfortunately, it will be happening all too quickly that I won't have time for that. Cheers, Igor On Wed, 17 May 2017, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Hi All! The end of the school year is a busy time... I've been a bit swamped, but I have an urgent and important question for which I hope some PDMLers might have some good suggestions. My kid's school teacher asked to put together photos (mine and teachers') so that they will given on a CD to each kid in the class. (I've been taking a lot of photos at various school events throughout the year.) So, I am thinking how to structure that CD. So, all your practical suggestions are welcome. Here is the way I am thinking about it right now: 1. The simplest thing would be just to have a bunch of folders that are titled as date+event name. Since it should be easy for the end-users (parents, and not all of them a computer-comfortable or even computer-literate), I am thinking if it would be better to build also simple HTML galleries (in addition to just photos). Personally, as a customer, I'd prefer just a simple set of folders with JPEGs to be viewed by a "standard" (or customer-installed) photo viewer, but I am a bit more computer-literate... What do you think? 2. I can set "autorun.inf" for Windows to start something... (e.g. the main index.htm file if I were to create web-galleries) While there are ways to do the same for Mac, e.g. by following this scenario: http://jordan.broughs.net/archives/2008/03/creating-cross-platform-windows-and-mac-installer-cds I don't have an easy access to a Mac, so, it is not an option for me... So, most likely, even if I were to do that for Windows, nothing special will be done for a Mac. 3. From what I understand, starting from OS-X, a joliet-format CD is not a problem for a Mac anymore (i.e. I don't need to worry about building a "hybrid"-format CD). But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a set of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo viewer (if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)? 4. I assume some of you may have provided your customers with a CD of photographs. What type of format did you do in that case? Anything beyond just a simple set of JPEGs? Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD
> On May 17, 2017, at 8:55 PM, Stanley Halpin > wrote: > > >> On May 17, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: >> >> >> Hi All!... >> But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a >> set of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo >> viewer (if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)? >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Igor >> > I believe it will totally depend on how the user preferences are set. On my > iMac, a CD with folders of photos is just like any other set of folders. > If/when I double-click on an actual image file (not a folder or sub-folder), > then Something will rise up to digest that file and render it in all its > glory. It might be Preview, it might be Photos, it might be Elements or it > might be Lightroom. etc. All depends on Preferences. Most likely it will not > be an app that will smoothly allow for right-arrow/left-arrow movement from > image to image. A lot of open file, view, close file, and repeat… > > If it were me, I would set up a gallery within my poorly organized overloaded > Zenfolio-based photo gallery. I do that with family reunion photos for > example. With a direct link to that specific gallery and easy navigation once > there it simplifies the access for less literate viewers. Set the parameters > to allow download of original images and tell the parents to go wild. (And > maybe provide an email address i anyone needs Help?) If there is concern > about “public” posting of kids’ photos, password access to that gallery. > > Many similar options but Zenfolio is the one I know. And a one-year > less-than-deluxe membership would probably be less than the cost of a bunch > of CDs. > > Another option is to build and export your gallery from Lightroom as an > HTML-coded website which you can then host wherever. > > If you do stick with the CD solution, however you structure the folders and > files (and any Mac-compatible .exe gadget), if you want to send me a link or > actual content (via dropbox for example) I can do a quick look at how it will > perform under OS-X. > > stan > — One other thought. Aren’t there free slide show viewers? For both Mac and Windows? Set up one of each with pointers to the root of your image folder structure, copy and include on the CD... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD
> On May 17, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > Hi All!... > But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a set > of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo viewer > (if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)? > > > Thank you, > > Igor > I believe it will totally depend on how the user preferences are set. On my iMac, a CD with folders of photos is just like any other set of folders. If/when I double-click on an actual image file (not a folder or sub-folder), then Something will rise up to digest that file and render it in all its glory. It might be Preview, it might be Photos, it might be Elements or it might be Lightroom. etc. All depends on Preferences. Most likely it will not be an app that will smoothly allow for right-arrow/left-arrow movement from image to image. A lot of open file, view, close file, and repeat… If it were me, I would set up a gallery within my poorly organized overloaded Zenfolio-based photo gallery. I do that with family reunion photos for example. With a direct link to that specific gallery and easy navigation once there it simplifies the access for less literate viewers. Set the parameters to allow download of original images and tell the parents to go wild. (And maybe provide an email address i anyone needs Help?) If there is concern about “public” posting of kids’ photos, password access to that gallery. Many similar options but Zenfolio is the one I know. And a one-year less-than-deluxe membership would probably be less than the cost of a bunch of CDs. Another option is to build and export your gallery from Lightroom as an HTML-coded website which you can then host wherever. If you do stick with the CD solution, however you structure the folders and files (and any Mac-compatible .exe gadget), if you want to send me a link or actual content (via dropbox for example) I can do a quick look at how it will perform under OS-X. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD
Why does it need to be installed? Wouldn't just a CD with folders to organize the photos suffice? Something like: Academics First Grade Ms Smith's Class Ms Jone's Class Second Grade Ms Tompkins' Class Mr Rogers' Class Athletics Baseball Football Soccer Track and Field Clubs and Organizations Art Club Drama Club Science Club Faculty and Staff Administration Custodians Food Service Teachers Yada, Yada, Yada On 5/17/2017 14:02, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Hi All! The end of the school year is a busy time... I've been a bit swamped, but I have an urgent and important question for which I hope some PDMLers might have some good suggestions. My kid's school teacher asked to put together photos (mine and teachers') so that they will given on a CD to each kid in the class. (I've been taking a lot of photos at various school events throughout the year.) So, I am thinking how to structure that CD. So, all your practical suggestions are welcome. Here is the way I am thinking about it right now: 1. The simplest thing would be just to have a bunch of folders that are titled as date+event name. Since it should be easy for the end-users (parents, and not all of them a computer-comfortable or even computer-literate), I am thinking if it would be better to build also simple HTML galleries (in addition to just photos). Personally, as a customer, I'd prefer just a simple set of folders with JPEGs to be viewed by a "standard" (or customer-installed) photo viewer, but I am a bit more computer-literate... What do you think? 2. I can set "autorun.inf" for Windows to start something... (e.g. the main index.htm file if I were to create web-galleries) While there are ways to do the same for Mac, e.g. by following this scenario: http://jordan.broughs.net/archives/2008/03/creating-cross-platform-windows-and-mac-installer-cds I don't have an easy access to a Mac, so, it is not an option for me... So, most likely, even if I were to do that for Windows, nothing special will be done for a Mac. 3. From what I understand, starting from OS-X, a joliet-format CD is not a problem for a Mac anymore (i.e. I don't need to worry about building a "hybrid"-format CD). But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a set of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo viewer (if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)? 4. I assume some of you may have provided your customers with a CD of photographs. What type of format did you do in that case? Anything beyond just a simple set of JPEGs? Thank you, Igor -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD
Igor, the last time I gave out CDs (it were actually DVDs) was gazillion years ago. It wasn't even the 6th grade of my older daughter, while she's finishing 10th grade now. I have started with DropBox account where I would put 20x30 cm printables and share the link to the folder of each event via e-mail. The problem with DropBox was that it had too small a size, so I went down the Google route. Nowadays, I'm uploading 20x30 cm printables to Google Drive (15 GB free out of the box, so to say, no pun here) and sharing the links from my cell phone to the WhatsApp group. This is for my younger daughter who's now finishing 3rd grade in school. This really works like a charm. I remember having most annoying problem with the DVDs/CDs - each parent wants specific sub-set of photos, where their own kid shows. So, I've spent lots of time doing all kinds of stuff. Say, there were few parents who asked me to please give them photos of just their kid for bat-mitzvah/bar-mitzvah albums. I obliged, but it was laborious. With things such as DropBox or Google Drive - each one just gets to easily page through all the pics and download whatever they want - no involvement from me. Boris On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > Hi All! > > The end of the school year is a busy time... I've been a bit swamped, but I > have an urgent and important question for which I hope some PDMLers might > have some good suggestions. > > My kid's school teacher asked to put together photos (mine and teachers') so > that they will given on a CD to each kid in the class. > (I've been taking a lot of photos at various school events throughout the > year.) > So, I am thinking how to structure that CD. So, all your practical > suggestions are welcome. > > Here is the way I am thinking about it right now: > 1. The simplest thing would be just to have a bunch of folders that are > titled as date+event name. > > Since it should be easy for the end-users (parents, and not all of them a > computer-comfortable or even computer-literate), I am thinking if it would > be better to build also simple HTML galleries (in addition to just photos). > Personally, as a customer, I'd prefer just a simple set of folders with > JPEGs to be viewed by a "standard" (or customer-installed) photo viewer, but > I am a bit more computer-literate... What do you think? > > 2. I can set "autorun.inf" for Windows to start something... (e.g. the main > index.htm file if I were to create web-galleries) > While there are ways to do the same for Mac, e.g. by following this > scenario: > http://jordan.broughs.net/archives/2008/03/creating-cross-platform-windows-and-mac-installer-cds > I don't have an easy access to a Mac, so, it is not an option for me... > So, most likely, even if I were to do that for Windows, nothing special will > be done for a Mac. > > > 3. From what I understand, starting from OS-X, a joliet-format CD is not a > problem for a Mac anymore (i.e. I don't need to worry about building a > "hybrid"-format CD). > But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a > set of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo > viewer (if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)? > > 4. I assume some of you may have provided your customers with a CD of > photographs. What type of format did you do in that case? Anything beyond > just a simple set of JPEGs? > > Thank you, > > Igor > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Need advice: Photo Collection on a CD
Hi All! The end of the school year is a busy time... I've been a bit swamped, but I have an urgent and important question for which I hope some PDMLers might have some good suggestions. My kid's school teacher asked to put together photos (mine and teachers') so that they will given on a CD to each kid in the class. (I've been taking a lot of photos at various school events throughout the year.) So, I am thinking how to structure that CD. So, all your practical suggestions are welcome. Here is the way I am thinking about it right now: 1. The simplest thing would be just to have a bunch of folders that are titled as date+event name. Since it should be easy for the end-users (parents, and not all of them a computer-comfortable or even computer-literate), I am thinking if it would be better to build also simple HTML galleries (in addition to just photos). Personally, as a customer, I'd prefer just a simple set of folders with JPEGs to be viewed by a "standard" (or customer-installed) photo viewer, but I am a bit more computer-literate... What do you think? 2. I can set "autorun.inf" for Windows to start something... (e.g. the main index.htm file if I were to create web-galleries) While there are ways to do the same for Mac, e.g. by following this scenario: http://jordan.broughs.net/archives/2008/03/creating-cross-platform-windows-and-mac-installer-cds I don't have an easy access to a Mac, so, it is not an option for me... So, most likely, even if I were to do that for Windows, nothing special will be done for a Mac. 3. From what I understand, starting from OS-X, a joliet-format CD is not a problem for a Mac anymore (i.e. I don't need to worry about building a "hybrid"-format CD). But I wonder, with a modern Mac, what happens when you insert a CD with a set of folders containing JPEGs into a Mac: will it offer to open a photo viewer (if nothing is configured to happen as discussed in #2 above)? 4. I assume some of you may have provided your customers with a CD of photographs. What type of format did you do in that case? Anything beyond just a simple set of JPEGs? Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.