Re: OT: eBay plagiarism
I told him that in a message, but made it clear that he was responsible because he posted the stolen text. However, 'Micro Optical' may not exist. I've done a couple of searches and found nothing. I've dealt with a lot of crooks over the last fifteen years or so. His reaction is what you would expect from a guilty person. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003 - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:15 AM Subject: Re: OT: eBay plagiarism It's possible that he is telling the truth and the thief is the guy he hired. :-\ - MCC , I hired a guy from Micro Optical to help me with the rest of the item's that I no nothing about (NOT THAT I OWE YOU ANY EXPLANATIONS, BUT NEXT TIME YOU BETTER GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU GO POINTING THAT UGLY FINGER OF YOURS.) - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI - Photography: http://www.markcassino.com
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
What do you know ... eBay have come back to me requesting more information and I gave it to them pronto! Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003 - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 4:54 AM Subject: Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: annsan posted Some may remember the guy who stole pictures from someone here (was it your listing, Chris?) a while back and the colorful way in which he was punished for same - For those of you who are more recent or were off list then, the ebay person just used hrefs to show our guy's photo of a pentax. I seem to recall that the person whose photos were stolen was Boz. At least twice. :-) If you're talking about the episode in which the owner of the photo then replaced it with an image of a partially-dressed female person, I am pretty sure that said owner was Boz. Thanks for telling a bit more of it - yes , it was Boz, now I remember (that is now you remember and remind me :) ) I' missed the saucy picture - I think later (or before) someone put a photo of a Canon in place of the lifted Pentax. But Don's thing sounds very creepy sigh annsan
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Probably do no good, but I it would be fun to send him and e-mail: Hi, I am the expert who wrote your ad for you. I will have my attorney contact you about my fee. Continuing to use the ad constitutes your agreement to pay my $500.00 fee in full. Be polite! Put a Thank you for your order! in there, too! :-) -tih -- Tom Ivar Helbekkmo, Senior System Administrator, EUnet Norway www.eunet.no T: +47-22092958 M: +47-93013940 F: +47-22092901
OT: eBay Plagiarism
I wrote a careful description for a Leitz Heine Phase Contrast condenser and put it on eBay with a couple of pictures. I gathered all the information I could find and did a good job of the text. But I withdrew the item very fast when I saw there was another listed. I had missed it somehow. I decided to wait a week or so and then put it on again. These things are worth a lot of money (maybe $600) and so I didn't want competition. However a third Heine condenser has suddenly appeared on eBay and the description the seller has put up has been taken -- word for word -- from mine. The SOB even had the cheek to write 'I don't no much about this so I had an expert write this for me [sic].' How does one deal with this? The bugger has a very good feedback rating and seems to be well known. And his starting bid was low, there is no reserve, and it seems to be in very good shape from the pictures. Argh! Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
Chris Brogden wrote: The internet encourages plagiarism, so the seller may not know or care that it was wrong to do so. I checked out the page, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2563924879 and he definitely claims that he had you describe it for him. I'd send him an email explaining why you want him to either credit you, rewrite the info himself, or end the auction. If he doesn't reply ASAP, file a complaint with eBay. Or... since he put in writing that you performed a service for him as a professional, send him a bill for your services, and let him know that you intend to pursue it in a court of law if he refuses to pay, since the evidence is right there on the auction page. :) chris Some may remember the guy who stole pictures from someone here (was it your listing, Chris?) a while back and the colorful way in which he was punished for same - For those of you who are more recent or were off list then, the ebay person just used hrefs to show our guy's photo of a pentax. Someone with more gray cells could retell the story - which I thought worth repeating for the entertainment value. Following that, I read an article in the NY times where a reporter who was writing about ebay actually boasted about how clever she was in borrowing a picture from another ebayer. The next week a letter to the editor appeared that pointed out the error of her ways. I've taken to signing my displays although the stuff I sell is not so often something that there are many of. It is definitely against the rules at ebay, though writing the guy before contatcting ebay seems like a good idea. annsan
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
Not at all different - join the masses :( ann Keith Whaley wrote: Then my experiences are NOT all that different! Thanks, keith Chris Brogden wrote: No, no... email would be too easy. Then people might actually be able to contact eBay without needing to book a day off work just to navigate their maze-like support pages. chris On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Keith Whaley wrote: eBay has an email address? I didn't know one existed! keith Robert Gonzalez wrote: Send a note to ebay. There are rules against this. Dr E D F Williams wrote: I wrote a careful description for a Leitz Heine Phase Contrast condenser and put it on eBay with a couple of pictures. I gathered all the information I could find and did a good job of the text. But I withdrew the item very fast when I saw there was another listed. I had missed it somehow. I decided to wait a week or so and then put it on again. These things are worth a lot of money (maybe $600) and so I didn't want competition. [. . .]
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don. If you hosted the pix off eBay, the easiest way to do something is change the original pix to something a little different, and change your URL in the auction (possible as long as you have no bids currently). I thought it was just his text that was lifted, i.e., copied not pointed to. ann
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
Ann Sanfedele wrote: Some may remember the guy who stole pictures from someone here (was it your listing, Chris?) a while back and the colorful way in which he was punished for same - For those of you who are more recent or were off list then, the ebay person just used hrefs to show our guy's photo of a pentax. Someone with more gray cells could retell the story - which I thought worth repeating for the entertainment value. IIRC, it was Boz. When a seller embedded a link directly to his site, Boz replaced the target photo with something a bit saucy... Regards, Stephen
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
Ann. Yes, that's right. Ooops! Well, it might have worked. Cheers Peter
Re: OT: eBay plagiarism
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Dr E D F Williams wrote: Excuse me! I don't no who in the hell you are, but I did nothing of the kind so you go ahead and report me all you want. You have a lot of nerve buddy! accusing me of steeling anything from you, I hired a guy from Micro Optical to help me with the rest of the item's that I no nothing about (NOT THAT I OWE YOU ANY EXPLANATIONS, BUT NEXT TIME YOU BETTER GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU GO POINTING THAT UGLY FINGER OF YOURS.) Yup, he's the guilty one all right. Forward a link to your first auction and to his auction on to eBay so they can see that yours was posted first. Hopefully they'll take action against this guy. At the same time, it would be an interesting academic exercise... ok, fine, it would be a helluva lot of fun... to draw up something nice and official-looking threatening this guy with legal action if he doesn't end the auction. chris
OT: eBay Plagiarism
I wrote a careful description for a Leitz Heine Phase Contrast condenser and put it on eBay with a couple of pictures. I gathered all the information I could find and did a good job of the text. But I withdrew the item very fast when I saw there was another listed. I had missed it somehow. I decided to wait a week or so and then put it on again. These things are worth a lot of money (maybe $600) and so I didn't want competition. However a third Heine condenser has suddenly appeared on eBay and the description the seller has put up has been taken -- word for word -- from mine. The SOB even had the cheek to write 'I don't no much about this so I had an expert write this for me [sic].' How does one deal with this? The bugger has a very good feedback rating and seems to be well known. And his starting bid was low, there is no reserve, and it seems to be in very good shape from the pictures. Argh! Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
Send a note to ebay. There are rules against this. Dr E D F Williams wrote: I wrote a careful description for a Leitz Heine Phase Contrast condenser and put it on eBay with a couple of pictures. I gathered all the information I could find and did a good job of the text. But I withdrew the item very fast when I saw there was another listed. I had missed it somehow. I decided to wait a week or so and then put it on again. These things are worth a lot of money (maybe $600) and so I didn't want competition. However a third Heine condenser has suddenly appeared on eBay and the description the seller has put up has been taken -- word for word -- from mine. The SOB even had the cheek to write 'I don't no much about this so I had an expert write this for me [sic].' How does one deal with this? The bugger has a very good feedback rating and seems to be well known. And his starting bid was low, there is no reserve, and it seems to be in very good shape from the pictures. Argh! Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
The internet encourages plagiarism, so the seller may not know or care that it was wrong to do so. I checked out the page, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2563924879 and he definitely claims that he had you describe it for him. I'd send him an email explaining why you want him to either credit you, rewrite the info himself, or end the auction. If he doesn't reply ASAP, file a complaint with eBay. Or... since he put in writing that you performed a service for him as a professional, send him a bill for your services, and let him know that you intend to pursue it in a court of law if he refuses to pay, since the evidence is right there on the auction page. :) chris On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Dr E D F Williams wrote: However a third Heine condenser has suddenly appeared on eBay and the description the seller has put up has been taken -- word for word -- from mine. The SOB even had the cheek to write 'I don't no much about this so I had an expert write this for me [sic].' How does one deal with this? The bugger has a very good feedback rating and seems to be well known. And his starting bid was low, there is no reserve, and it seems to be in very good shape from the pictures.
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
I just sent this question to the seller. Should be interesting to see what he says. Will this Heine condenser work with *any* phase objective? I need to know specifically if it will work with a Weitznel Schlong objective circa 1976. I realize that you won't know the answer yourself, so please ask your professional and let me know what he says. I may be willing to pay a lot of money for this condenser ($700+ US), so I thank you for your prompt reply in this matter. Thanks, Chris On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Dr E D F Williams wrote: However a third Heine condenser has suddenly appeared on eBay and the description the seller has put up has been taken -- word for word -- from mine. The SOB even had the cheek to write 'I don't no much about this so I had an expert write this for me [sic].' How does one deal with this? The bugger has a very good feedback rating and seems to be well known. And his starting bid was low, there is no reserve, and it seems to be in very good shape from the pictures.
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
eBay has an email address? I didn't know one existed! keith Robert Gonzalez wrote: Send a note to ebay. There are rules against this. Dr E D F Williams wrote: I wrote a careful description for a Leitz Heine Phase Contrast condenser and put it on eBay with a couple of pictures. I gathered all the information I could find and did a good job of the text. But I withdrew the item very fast when I saw there was another listed. I had missed it somehow. I decided to wait a week or so and then put it on again. These things are worth a lot of money (maybe $600) and so I didn't want competition. [. . .]
eBay buyer fraud attempt (was OT: eBay Plagiarism)
Very simple. You send eBay an email with the 2 URLs and this guys story. Describe the issue and seriousness of the problem fully. Send the other seller a copy as well. The truth scares people and they often correct themselves quickly. I had a facinating eBay sale issue a couple of months ago. A guy bid won my Vivitar 285 flash. But he never paid for it. After a month or so he sent a threatening email and said he was going to turn me in if I didn't send the unit to him immediately. So I told eBay. They got on his case right away. He was really apologetic, but still hasn't paid. Has this happened to anyone else? Collin KC8TKA Domino PCLP
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
Don. If you hosted the pix off eBay, the easiest way to do something is change the original pix to something a little different, and change your URL in the auction (possible as long as you have no bids currently). Personally I don't think complaining to eBay is any good; by complaining to the perp you are just tipping him off to your little ruse. When you relocate the URL of your pix, make sure you overtype picture author in a strategic place. I don't generally bother overtyping on used items unless they are considered unusual; used is rarely homogenous and the perp will simply be running the risk of shooting themselves in the foot. Cheers Peter
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
Chris wrote: I just sent this question to the seller. Should be interesting to see what he says. so please ask your professional and let me know what he says. ... You wicked dude!!! ERN rofl
Re: OT: eBay Plagiarism
Probably do no good, but I it would be fun to send him and e-mail: Hi, I am the expert who wrote your ad for you. I will have my attorney contact you about my fee. Continuing to use the ad constitutes your agreement to pay my $500.00 fee in full. Dr E D F Williams wrote: I wrote a careful description for a Leitz Heine Phase Contrast condenser and put it on eBay with a couple of pictures. I gathered all the information I could find and did a good job of the text. But I withdrew the item very fast when I saw there was another listed. I had missed it somehow. I decided to wait a week or so and then put it on again. These things are worth a lot of money (maybe $600) and so I didn't want competition. However a third Heine condenser has suddenly appeared on eBay and the description the seller has put up has been taken -- word for word -- from mine. The SOB even had the cheek to write 'I don't no much about this so I had an expert write this for me [sic].' How does one deal with this? The bugger has a very good feedback rating and seems to be well known. And his starting bid was low, there is no reserve, and it seems to be in very good shape from the pictures. Argh! Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003 -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
