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Often the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 4:17 PM Ken Waller wrote: > Just got word that a friend who was ailing and tested positive last week > is on the mend. He had all the usual symptoms - cough, fatigue, fever and > also loss of taste and smell - and is feeling much better today. He started > to feel ill about 9 days ago. He’s in his late fifties and is in otherwise > good health. > > Tunnel ? Light ? > > > -Original Message- > >From: Ken Waller >Subject: Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem! > > > >Good to hear Paul. > > > > > >-----Original Message- > >>From: Paul Stenquist > >>Subject: Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem! > >> > >>Thanks all. I do have ugly old, but I meant to say I have an ugly cold, > Much better today. > >> > >>Paul > >> > >>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Alan C wrote: > >>> > >>> Ditto > >>> > >>> Alan C > >>> > >>>> On 22-Mar-20 09:59 PM, Mark C wrote: > >>>> Glad to hear that, Paul. > >>>> > >>>>> On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > >>>>> Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem!
Just got word that a friend who was ailing and tested positive last week is on the mend. He had all the usual symptoms - cough, fatigue, fever and also loss of taste and smell - and is feeling much better today. He started to feel ill about 9 days ago. He’s in his late fifties and is in otherwise good health. Tunnel ? Light ? -Original Message- >From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem! > >Good to hear Paul. > > >-Original Message- >>From: Paul Stenquist >>Subject: Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem! >> >>Thanks all. I do have ugly old, but I meant to say I have an ugly cold, Much >>better today. >> >>Paul >> >>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Alan C wrote: >>> >>> Ditto >>> >>> Alan C >>> >>>> On 22-Mar-20 09:59 PM, Mark C wrote: >>>> Glad to hear that, Paul. >>>> >>>>> On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >>>>> Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Good to hear Paul. -Original Message- >From: Paul Stenquist >Subject: Re: OT Covid-19 - Ahem! > >Thanks all. I do have ugly old, but I meant to say I have an ugly cold, Much >better today. > >Paul > >> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Alan C wrote: >> >> Ditto >> >> Alan C >> >>> On 22-Mar-20 09:59 PM, Mark C wrote: >>> Glad to hear that, Paul. >>> >>>> On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >>>> Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks all. I do have ugly old, but I meant to say I have an ugly cold, Much better today. Paul > On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Alan C wrote: > > Ditto > > Alan C > >> On 22-Mar-20 09:59 PM, Mark C wrote: >> Glad to hear that, Paul. >> >>> On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >>> Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ditto Alan C On 22-Mar-20 09:59 PM, Mark C wrote: Glad to hear that, Paul. On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/22/2020 2:11 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: You had an ugly old for a long time... glad you only have an ugly COLD now.. xoxo ann HAR!!. Paul, keep getting better. bill On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I’ve been sick for 10 days now and was tested a week ago. Still no results but I did go through a few days of not really wanting to eat, although I didn’t have any stomach issues. The hospital has said I don’t have the flu. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You had an ugly old for a long time... glad you only have an ugly COLD now.. xoxo ann On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I’ve been sick for 10 days now and was tested a week ago. Still no results but I did go through a few days of not really wanting to eat, although I didn’t have any stomach issues. The hospital has said I don’t have the flu. Paul On Mar 22, 2020, at 12:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: Rick - What do you know about this: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-experts-say-new-symptoms-could-be-loss-taste-or-smell-11961439 I have two friends who are sick and experiencing the lack of sense of taste and smell - both reported to me in conversation without any prompting as it were from outside sources... then confirmed by a doc in once case. On 3/22/2020 10:10 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Mike, much of this information is wrong. Since most of my patients (children with cancer) are immunosuppressed, I’ve been following this closely, and our hospital is providing daily briefings. First, fibrosis is scarring, and that takes a long time. It is inflammation that causes the problems with COVID-19, or any other pneumonia. Inflammation usually clears without scarring. #3: Not true. Note that equatorial areas are seeing plenty of COVID-19; it’s just “bhind the curve” compared to China, Europe, and the US. #4: The fine droplets from a cough or sneeze take a half-hour to reach the floor, in still air. #5: Make that 2-3 days on metal. #7: No evidence that I have ever seen or heard of. #8: Hand washing with soap is the best preventive measure for almost any infectious disease. #9: I’ve never heard of this working for anything but temporary symptom relief. #10: Can’t hurt. The symptoms are highly variable, but most often start with nasal congestion, sometimes fever, and then a sore throat. The drowning sensation in #4 is something I’ve not heard of or read about. Rick On Mar 21, 2020, at 3:30 PM, mike wilson wrote: Advice from a virologist, allegedly. Makes sense to me. The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have a fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In a critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous. IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS 1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold 2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose. 3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. 4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne. 5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap. 6. On fabric, it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it. 7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice. 8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on. 9. You should also gargle as prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice. 10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water! SYMPTOMS 1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days 2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further. 3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing. 4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
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Glad to hear that, Paul. On 3/22/2020 2:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Am 22.03.20 um 19:39 schrieb Paul Stenquist: Got my test results today. Negative. Phew... :-) Now get well soon. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Happy to hear that, Paul : ) Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun Bob Pdml , 22 Mar 2020 Paz, 22:01 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > Who’d have thought I would ever congratulate someone for having an ugly cold! > Congratulations! > > But - it doesn’t mean you’re immune so take care! > > > On 22 Mar 2020, at 18:40, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > > > Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. > > > > > >> On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Paul Stenquist > >> wrote: > >> > >> I’ve been sick for 10 days now and was tested a week ago. Still no results > >> but I did go through a few days of not really wanting to eat, although I > >> didn’t have any stomach issues. The hospital has said I don’t have the flu. > >> > >> Paul > >> > On Mar 22, 2020, at 12:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Rick - > >>> What do you know about this: > >>> > >>> https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-experts-say-new-symptoms-could-be-loss-taste-or-smell-11961439 > >>> > >>> I have two friends who are sick and experiencing the lack of sense of > >>> taste and smell - both reported to me in conversation without > >>> any prompting as it were from outside sources... then confirmed by a doc > >>> in once case. > >>> > On 3/22/2020 10:10 AM, Rick Womer wrote: > Mike, much of this information is wrong. Since most of my patients > (children with cancer) are immunosuppressed, I’ve been following this > closely, and our hospital is providing daily briefings. > > First, fibrosis is scarring, and that takes a long time. It is > inflammation that causes the problems with COVID-19, or any other > pneumonia. Inflammation usually clears without scarring. > > #3: Not true. Note that equatorial areas are seeing plenty of COVID-19; > it’s just “bhind the curve” compared to China, Europe, and the US. > > #4: The fine droplets from a cough or sneeze take a half-hour to reach > the floor, in still air. > > #5: Make that 2-3 days on metal. > > #7: No evidence that I have ever seen or heard of. > > #8: Hand washing with soap is the best preventive measure for almost any > infectious disease. > > #9: I’ve never heard of this working for anything but temporary symptom > relief. > > #10: Can’t hurt. > > The symptoms are highly variable, but most often start with nasal > congestion, sometimes fever, and then a sore throat. The drowning > sensation in #4 is something I’ve not heard of or read about. > > Rick > > > > >> On Mar 21, 2020, at 3:30 PM, mike wilson > >> wrote: > > > > Advice from a virologist, allegedly. Makes sense to me. > > > > The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How > > can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have a fever > > and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis > > and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we > > can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more > > than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, > > without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no > > Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In a critical > > time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. > > Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: > > Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a > > few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus > > gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them > > down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach > > acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more > > regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's > > very dangerous. > > > > IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS > > 1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold > > 2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose. > > 3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a > > temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. > > 4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops > > to the ground and is no longer airborne. > > 5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - > > so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as > > soon as you can with a bacterial soap. > > 6. On fabric, it can survive for 6-12
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Who’d have thought I would ever congratulate someone for having an ugly cold! Congratulations! But - it doesn’t mean you’re immune so take care! > On 22 Mar 2020, at 18:40, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. > > >> On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> I’ve been sick for 10 days now and was tested a week ago. Still no results >> but I did go through a few days of not really wanting to eat, although I >> didn’t have any stomach issues. The hospital has said I don’t have the flu. >> >> Paul >> On Mar 22, 2020, at 12:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: >>> >>> >>> Rick - >>> What do you know about this: >>> >>> https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-experts-say-new-symptoms-could-be-loss-taste-or-smell-11961439 >>> >>> I have two friends who are sick and experiencing the lack of sense of taste >>> and smell - both reported to me in conversation without >>> any prompting as it were from outside sources... then confirmed by a doc in >>> once case. >>> On 3/22/2020 10:10 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Mike, much of this information is wrong. Since most of my patients (children with cancer) are immunosuppressed, I’ve been following this closely, and our hospital is providing daily briefings. First, fibrosis is scarring, and that takes a long time. It is inflammation that causes the problems with COVID-19, or any other pneumonia. Inflammation usually clears without scarring. #3: Not true. Note that equatorial areas are seeing plenty of COVID-19; it’s just “bhind the curve” compared to China, Europe, and the US. #4: The fine droplets from a cough or sneeze take a half-hour to reach the floor, in still air. #5: Make that 2-3 days on metal. #7: No evidence that I have ever seen or heard of. #8: Hand washing with soap is the best preventive measure for almost any infectious disease. #9: I’ve never heard of this working for anything but temporary symptom relief. #10: Can’t hurt. The symptoms are highly variable, but most often start with nasal congestion, sometimes fever, and then a sore throat. The drowning sensation in #4 is something I’ve not heard of or read about. Rick >> On Mar 21, 2020, at 3:30 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > Advice from a virologist, allegedly. Makes sense to me. > > The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can > one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have a fever and/or > cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's > too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every > morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 > seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without > discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis > in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In a critical time, > please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. Serious > excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone > should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips > of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your > mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your > throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all > the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can > enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous. > > IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS > 1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold > 2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose. > 3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a > temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. > 4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to > the ground and is no longer airborne. > 5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so > if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon > as you can with a bacterial soap. > 6. On fabric, it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent > will kill it. > 7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink > liquids with ice. > 8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands > for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub > your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on. > 9. You should also gargle as prevention. A simple solution of salt in > warm water will suffice. > 10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water! > SYMPTOMS > 1. It
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On 22/3/20, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. You've got an ugly old something!! Congrats and I bet that's one less worry ! You can go back to the matrimonial bed ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ UK Shoot / Edit || (O) | -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Got my test results today. Negative. I have an ugly old. > On Mar 22, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > I’ve been sick for 10 days now and was tested a week ago. Still no results > but I did go through a few days of not really wanting to eat, although I > didn’t have any stomach issues. The hospital has said I don’t have the flu. > > Paul > >> On Mar 22, 2020, at 12:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> >> >> Rick - >> What do you know about this: >> >> https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-experts-say-new-symptoms-could-be-loss-taste-or-smell-11961439 >> >> I have two friends who are sick and experiencing the lack of sense of taste >> and smell - both reported to me in conversation without >> any prompting as it were from outside sources... then confirmed by a doc in >> once case. >> >>> On 3/22/2020 10:10 AM, Rick Womer wrote: >>> Mike, much of this information is wrong. Since most of my patients >>> (children with cancer) are immunosuppressed, I’ve been following this >>> closely, and our hospital is providing daily briefings. >>> >>> First, fibrosis is scarring, and that takes a long time. It is inflammation >>> that causes the problems with COVID-19, or any other pneumonia. >>> Inflammation usually clears without scarring. >>> >>> #3: Not true. Note that equatorial areas are seeing plenty of COVID-19; >>> it’s just “bhind the curve” compared to China, Europe, and the US. >>> >>> #4: The fine droplets from a cough or sneeze take a half-hour to reach the >>> floor, in still air. >>> >>> #5: Make that 2-3 days on metal. >>> >>> #7: No evidence that I have ever seen or heard of. >>> >>> #8: Hand washing with soap is the best preventive measure for almost any >>> infectious disease. >>> >>> #9: I’ve never heard of this working for anything but temporary symptom >>> relief. >>> >>> #10: Can’t hurt. >>> >>> The symptoms are highly variable, but most often start with nasal >>> congestion, sometimes fever, and then a sore throat. The drowning sensation >>> in #4 is something I’ve not heard of or read about. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> > On Mar 21, 2020, at 3:30 PM, mike wilson wrote: Advice from a virologist, allegedly. Makes sense to me. The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have a fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In a critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous. IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS 1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold 2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose. 3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. 4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne. 5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap. 6. On fabric, it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it. 7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice. 8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on. 9. You should also gargle as prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice. 10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water! SYMPTOMS 1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days 2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further. 3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
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I’ve been sick for 10 days now and was tested a week ago. Still no results but I did go through a few days of not really wanting to eat, although I didn’t have any stomach issues. The hospital has said I don’t have the flu. Paul > On Mar 22, 2020, at 12:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > > Rick - > What do you know about this: > > https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-experts-say-new-symptoms-could-be-loss-taste-or-smell-11961439 > > I have two friends who are sick and experiencing the lack of sense of taste > and smell - both reported to me in conversation without > any prompting as it were from outside sources... then confirmed by a doc in > once case. > >> On 3/22/2020 10:10 AM, Rick Womer wrote: >> Mike, much of this information is wrong. Since most of my patients (children >> with cancer) are immunosuppressed, I’ve been following this closely, and our >> hospital is providing daily briefings. >> >> First, fibrosis is scarring, and that takes a long time. It is inflammation >> that causes the problems with COVID-19, or any other pneumonia. Inflammation >> usually clears without scarring. >> >> #3: Not true. Note that equatorial areas are seeing plenty of COVID-19; it’s >> just “bhind the curve” compared to China, Europe, and the US. >> >> #4: The fine droplets from a cough or sneeze take a half-hour to reach the >> floor, in still air. >> >> #5: Make that 2-3 days on metal. >> >> #7: No evidence that I have ever seen or heard of. >> >> #8: Hand washing with soap is the best preventive measure for almost any >> infectious disease. >> >> #9: I’ve never heard of this working for anything but temporary symptom >> relief. >> >> #10: Can’t hurt. >> >> The symptoms are highly variable, but most often start with nasal >> congestion, sometimes fever, and then a sore throat. The drowning sensation >> in #4 is something I’ve not heard of or read about. >> >> Rick >> >> >> On Mar 21, 2020, at 3:30 PM, mike wilson wrote: >>> >>> Advice from a virologist, allegedly. Makes sense to me. >>> >>> The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can >>> one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have a fever and/or cough >>> and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. >>> Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. >>> Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you >>> complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or >>> tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically >>> indicates no infection. In a critical time, please self-check every morning >>> in an environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice by Japanese >>> doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat >>> are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. >>> Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other >>> liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once >>> there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough >>> water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. >>> That's very dangerous. >>> >>> IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS >>> 1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold >>> 2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose. >>> 3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature >>> of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. >>> 4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to >>> the ground and is no longer airborne. >>> 5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so >>> if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon >>> as you can with a bacterial soap. >>> 6. On fabric, it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will >>> kill it. >>> 7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink >>> liquids with ice. >>> 8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for >>> 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your >>> eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on. >>> 9. You should also gargle as prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm >>> water will suffice. >>> 10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water! >>> SYMPTOMS >>> 1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting >>> 3/4 days >>> 2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and >>> then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further. >>> 3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing. >>> 4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're >>> drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>>
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I really must get my sarcasm meter checked. It's patently twaddle and I thought I was making that clear to those who know me, which is most here. Maybe another sign of infection is loss of communication skills. > On 22 March 2020 at 14:10 Rick Womer wrote: > > > Mike, much of this information is wrong. Since most of my patients (children > with cancer) are immunosuppressed, I’ve been following this closely, and our > hospital is providing daily briefings. > > First, fibrosis is scarring, and that takes a long time. It is inflammation > that causes the problems with COVID-19, or any other pneumonia. Inflammation > usually clears without scarring. > > #3: Not true. Note that equatorial areas are seeing plenty of COVID-19; it’s > just “bhind the curve” compared to China, Europe, and the US. > > #4: The fine droplets from a cough or sneeze take a half-hour to reach the > floor, in still air. > > #5: Make that 2-3 days on metal. > > #7: No evidence that I have ever seen or heard of. > > #8: Hand washing with soap is the best preventive measure for almost any > infectious disease. > > #9: I’ve never heard of this working for anything but temporary symptom > relief. > > #10: Can’t hurt. > > The symptoms are highly variable, but most often start with nasal congestion, > sometimes fever, and then a sore throat. The drowning sensation in #4 is > something I’ve not heard of or read about. > > Rick > > > > > On Mar 21, 2020, at 3:30 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > > > Advice from a virologist, allegedly. Makes sense to me. > > > > The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can > > one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have a fever and/or cough > > and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. > > Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. > > Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you > > complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or > > tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically > > indicates no infection. In a critical time, please self-check every morning > > in an environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice by Japanese > > doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat > > are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. > > Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other > > liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once > > there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough > > water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. > > That's very dangerous. > > > > IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS > > 1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold > > 2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose. > > 3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature > > of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. > > 4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to > > the ground and is no longer airborne. > > 5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so > > if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon > > as you can with a bacterial soap. > > 6. On fabric, it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will > > kill it. > > 7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink > > liquids with ice. > > 8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for > > 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your > > eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on. > > 9. You should also gargle as prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm > > water will suffice. > > 10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water! > > SYMPTOMS > > 1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting > > 3/4 days > > 2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and > > then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further. > > 3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing. > > 4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're > > drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit
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Rick - What do you know about this: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-experts-say-new-symptoms-could-be-loss-taste-or-smell-11961439 I have two friends who are sick and experiencing the lack of sense of taste and smell - both reported to me in conversation without any prompting as it were from outside sources... then confirmed by a doc in once case. On 3/22/2020 10:10 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Mike, much of this information is wrong. Since most of my patients (children with cancer) are immunosuppressed, I’ve been following this closely, and our hospital is providing daily briefings. First, fibrosis is scarring, and that takes a long time. It is inflammation that causes the problems with COVID-19, or any other pneumonia. Inflammation usually clears without scarring. #3: Not true. Note that equatorial areas are seeing plenty of COVID-19; it’s just “bhind the curve” compared to China, Europe, and the US. #4: The fine droplets from a cough or sneeze take a half-hour to reach the floor, in still air. #5: Make that 2-3 days on metal. #7: No evidence that I have ever seen or heard of. #8: Hand washing with soap is the best preventive measure for almost any infectious disease. #9: I’ve never heard of this working for anything but temporary symptom relief. #10: Can’t hurt. The symptoms are highly variable, but most often start with nasal congestion, sometimes fever, and then a sore throat. The drowning sensation in #4 is something I’ve not heard of or read about. Rick On Mar 21, 2020, at 3:30 PM, mike wilson wrote: Advice from a virologist, allegedly. Makes sense to me. The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have a fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection. In a critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous. IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS 1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold 2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose. 3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. 4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne. 5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap. 6. On fabric, it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it. 7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice. 8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on. 9. You should also gargle as prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice. 10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water! SYMPTOMS 1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days 2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further. 3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing. 4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mike, much of this information is wrong. Since most of my patients (children with cancer) are immunosuppressed, I’ve been following this closely, and our hospital is providing daily briefings. First, fibrosis is scarring, and that takes a long time. It is inflammation that causes the problems with COVID-19, or any other pneumonia. Inflammation usually clears without scarring. #3: Not true. Note that equatorial areas are seeing plenty of COVID-19; it’s just “bhind the curve” compared to China, Europe, and the US. #4: The fine droplets from a cough or sneeze take a half-hour to reach the floor, in still air. #5: Make that 2-3 days on metal. #7: No evidence that I have ever seen or heard of. #8: Hand washing with soap is the best preventive measure for almost any infectious disease. #9: I’ve never heard of this working for anything but temporary symptom relief. #10: Can’t hurt. The symptoms are highly variable, but most often start with nasal congestion, sometimes fever, and then a sore throat. The drowning sensation in #4 is something I’ve not heard of or read about. Rick > On Mar 21, 2020, at 3:30 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > Advice from a virologist, allegedly. Makes sense to me. > > The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one > know if he/she is infected? By the time they have a fever and/or cough and go > to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan > experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep > breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it > successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, > etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no > infection. In a critical time, please self-check every morning in an > environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors > treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are > moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? > Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will > wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your > stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more > regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very > dangerous. > > IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS > 1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold > 2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose. > 3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature > of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun. > 4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the > ground and is no longer airborne. > 5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if > you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you > can with a bacterial soap. > 6. On fabric, it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will > kill it. > 7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids > with ice. > 8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for > 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your > eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on. > 9. You should also gargle as prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm > water will suffice. > 10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water! > SYMPTOMS > 1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 > days > 2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then > the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further. > 3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing. > 4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're > drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
