Re: OT: iMac question
Actually, there is a choice in video cards with the iMac if you opt for the slightly slower cpu and are ok with the 320 gig HD, you can order the machine online with the upgraded video card from the top of the line model, and have the memory filled to capacity. You cannot do this thru the Apple Stores - they have boxed standard units they cannot open and change anything except memory upgrades. You have to order it from Apple's online store. It is then custom configured at the factory overseas and shipped to your home within a few days. Reason? The iMac guts are only reachable by sucking the lucite screen off the LCD panel with glass lifting suction cups. It's a press fit. Then you can remove the LCD and get at the drives, video, etc. The problem is that this should really be done in a clean room, else once reassembled, you may find particles between the lucite and the LCD that are distracting, especially for photo folks and artists. Personally, I found that after ordering the base middle of the road iMac with the super-fast high memory video card and 4 gigs of ram, I was within a couple of hundred dollars of the top of the line model, which has a faster cpu. Only if you order the top of the line with 4 gigs of Apple ram will you see a larger gap in the price difference. By the way, I had my car broken into wednesday night, and three medium camera bags stolen. I will be posting a list with serial numbers in a little bit. I'd appreciate it if you all would keep your eyes open for any of this stuff showing up. On Oct 2, 2008, at 10:47 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Womer wrote on Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:08:32 -0700 It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as my wife needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5. (I know, it's a terrible thing...) The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing? Will a faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better? We don't use our computer for games. The iMac comes with a built-in video card so you don't have any choices as to which card you use. However, as Godfrey says, the built-in cord in the 24 iMac is very good for photo processing work; I'm sure that you won't be disappointed if you get this model. However, the 20 iMac has a less capable LCD screen than the 24, so get the latter if you can. Regards, Jim Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: iMac question
It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as my wife needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5. (I know, it's a terrible thing...) The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing? Will a faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better? We don't use our computer for games. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: iMac question
The Video card affects UI responsiveness in OS X, but is only used for photo processing by Aperture and iPhoto. The only way a faster video card will affect Lightroom is by improving the responsiveness of the overall GUI. -Adam On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as my wife needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5. (I know, it's a terrible thing...) The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing? Will a faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better? We don't use our computer for games. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: iMac question
Adam Maas wrote: The Video card affects UI responsiveness in OS X, but is only used for photo processing by Aperture and iPhoto. ... until (if) you get Photoshop CS4. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: iMac question
Very little effect if any at all. The iMac 24 is an excellent photo workstation. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Oct 2, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as my wife needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5. (I know, it's a terrible thing...) The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing? Will a faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better? We don't use our computer for games. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: iMac question
Rick Womer wrote on Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:08:32 -0700 It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as my wife needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5. (I know, it's a terrible thing...) The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing? Will a faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better? We don't use our computer for games. The iMac comes with a built-in video card so you don't have any choices as to which card you use. However, as Godfrey says, the built-in cord in the 24 iMac is very good for photo processing work; I'm sure that you won't be disappointed if you get this model. However, the 20 iMac has a less capable LCD screen than the 24, so get the latter if you can. Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: iMac question
Let us know how you like it Rick. If and when i need to upgrade, the imac is what i'v been looking at. Good to know about the 20-24 screens Dave On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Jim King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Womer wrote on Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:08:32 -0700 It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as my wife needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5. (I know, it's a terrible thing...) The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing? Will a faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better? We don't use our computer for games. The iMac comes with a built-in video card so you don't have any choices as to which card you use. However, as Godfrey says, the built-in cord in the 24 iMac is very good for photo processing work; I'm sure that you won't be disappointed if you get this model. However, the 20 iMac has a less capable LCD screen than the 24, so get the latter if you can. Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT iMac question
Quoting Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have my office machine (a newish MacBook Pro) set up with Parallels since I have to use Windows software to access my email, our server, etc. It all works just fine. You can have Windows full screen, or Minimize, work on OS 10, then click back to Windows when needed. The virtual ethernet port on the virtual machine is clever enough that it shares the pipe with the Mac software, so that email updates are happening in Windows Outlook even while I am using Safari on the Mac.. Slicker than goose droppings on a wet sidewalk! Well, we have lots of geese around here, so thats good to know.LOL Ran this by the financial office last night. She is all in favor of getting the computer and sesk out of the dining room. I told her, with the imac, i could have a smaller desk in the basement and get rid of the upstairs desk. She is impressed with the cost to. About 1/2 of what i paid for the MDG PC in 2003. Now to stew over this for a while. New imac, or K10D or 18-200 VR for the D200 o, all three. g Dave Stan On Oct 12, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Perry Pellechia wrote: Dave, The better option to run Windows on the Mac might be setting it to run in a virtual session with Parallels Desktop ($90). I have my MBP set up so that all my work in Windows is saved directly to my Mac OSX drive. With both operating system running at the same time it is easier to share data between the two. If I was using Windows to run games I think Boot Camp would be the better option. However, when I am running Windows to work up either data or using CorelDraw I usually want access to my Mac OSX programs too (email, firefox etc.). YMMV, Perry. On 10/12/06, Dave Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi mac a doodles.:-) Am i to believe that the imac has all of its hardware in the screen, no tower to worry about kicking it with feet and knee's.?? Also the dual core 2 intel. Is there anything special you need to do/load to work between Mac and Winblows, or do you need to get boot camp or such. Dave David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, 6x7. Nikon D1 D2H D200 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, David J Brooks wrote: Maybe i'll just hang tight untill Leopard is released, unless it already is. Don't wait, join us! JOIN US! If/when they lump Boot Camp into the OS release, you'd still use it the same way, so waiting won't make that much of a difference from that aspect. See what the refurbed iMacs are going for at Apple, and make your choice there. I have a friend who has both an iMac G5 and a new Core Duo Mini. He told me that there's no comparision, speed wise, and the Mini stomps the iMac for video encoding. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT iMac question
Hi mac a doodles.:-) Am i to believe that the imac has all of its hardware in the screen, no tower to worry about kicking it with feet and knee's.?? Also the dual core 2 intel. Is there anything special you need to do/load to work between Mac and Winblows, or do you need to get boot camp or such. Dave David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, 6x7. Nikon D1 D2H D200 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
From what I have heard boot camp makes it pretty easy to get XP installed. In addition it gives you all the drivers and everything... its a really nice solution. Once it is set up its just a matter of selecting your which OS you want on boot, as with any bootloader. I'm going to be heading off to college next year and I'll most likely be getting a macbook and will have OSX, XP and Linux. Dave Brooks wrote: Hi mac a doodles.:-) Am i to believe that the imac has all of its hardware in the screen, no tower to worry about kicking it with feet and knee's.?? Also the dual core 2 intel. Is there anything special you need to do/load to work between Mac and Winblows, or do you need to get boot camp or such. Dave David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, 6x7. Nikon D1 D2H D200 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
Dave Brooks wrote: Hi mac a doodles.:-) Am i to believe that the imac has all of its hardware in the screen, no tower to worry about kicking it with feet and knee's.?? Correct, it's all behind the LCD Also the dual core 2 intel. Is there anything special you need to do/load to work between Mac and Winblows, or do you need to get boot camp or such. Dave You need BootCamp to install Windows, then it's just a matter of using a control panel to select which OS you want to boot. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
On 10/12/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am i to believe that the imac has all of its hardware in the screen, no tower to worry about kicking it with feet and knee's.?? Correct, it's all behind the LCD And as an added bonus, you can drive a second LCD or CRT display with it, if you don't have enough screen space on the built-in LCD. :-) Saving the pennies, -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
Dave, The better option to run Windows on the Mac might be setting it to run in a virtual session with Parallels Desktop ($90). I have my MBP set up so that all my work in Windows is saved directly to my Mac OSX drive. With both operating system running at the same time it is easier to share data between the two. If I was using Windows to run games I think Boot Camp would be the better option. However, when I am running Windows to work up either data or using CorelDraw I usually want access to my Mac OSX programs too (email, firefox etc.). YMMV, Perry. On 10/12/06, Dave Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi mac a doodles.:-) Am i to believe that the imac has all of its hardware in the screen, no tower to worry about kicking it with feet and knee's.?? Also the dual core 2 intel. Is there anything special you need to do/load to work between Mac and Winblows, or do you need to get boot camp or such. Dave David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, 6x7. Nikon D1 D2H D200 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
Quoting Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/12/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am i to believe that the imac has all of its hardware in the screen, no tower to worry about kicking it with feet and knee's.?? Correct, it's all behind the LCD And as an added bonus, you can drive a second LCD or CRT display with it, if you don't have enough screen space on the built-in LCD. :-) Humm, good to know. Thanks Mat. So what about virie, worms and such. Same problems with that on the intel/windows side. Install a anti virus package for the windows and hopefully nothing on the Mac OS, or am i being nieve. Dave Saving the pennies, -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
On 10/12/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about virie, worms and such. Same problems with that on the intel/windows side. Install a anti virus package for the windows and hopefully nothing on the Mac OS, or am i being nieve. There is a grand total of 1 (one) known virus for OSX. And even then, propagation is VERY limited. Thanks to the separation of admin functions from normal user functions, it is difficult for a virus to propagate itself, or to compromise your system to the point of failure. On the windows side, windows is windows. You'll still need your antivirus program running, and you'll need to stay on top of the windows updates. OSX has its own update mechanism as well, and it's much nicer than the Windows updates. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Dave Brooks wrote: Am i to believe that the imac has all of its hardware in the screen, no tower to worry about kicking it with feet and knee's.?? Well, there's a power cord between the wall and the computer. ;) I bought an iMac G5 the day they announced the Core Duo version because I wanted to own one a G5 before they disappeared. Its a fantastic design, although I've still managed to clutter my desk with crap. Also the dual core 2 intel. Is there anything special you need to do/load to work between Mac and Winblows, or do you need to get boot camp or such. Boot Camp is free, and should be rolled into the next MacOS X release. You'll have to download it, but I don't know if/how partitioning works with regards to it. There's also Parallels, which works differently, and lets you run Windows natively under MacOS X, not unlike Virtual PC, but again.. native. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
Quoting gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Dave Brooks wrote: Am i to believe that the imac has all of its hardware in the screen, no tower to worry about kicking it with feet and knee's.?? Well, there's a power cord between the wall and the computer. ;) Well, forget it then.:-) I bought an iMac G5 the day they announced the Core Duo version because I wanted to own one a G5 before they disappeared. Its a fantastic design, although I've still managed to clutter my desk with crap. I have aq desk i never use, and ITs cluttered.:-) Also the dual core 2 intel. Is there anything special you need to do/load to work between Mac and Winblows, or do you need to get boot camp or such. Boot Camp is free, and should be rolled into the next MacOS X release. You'll have to download it, but I don't know if/how partitioning works with regards to it. There's also Parallels, which works differently, and lets you run Windows natively under MacOS X, not unlike Virtual PC, but again.. native. Maybe i'll just hang tight untill Leopard is released, unless it already is. Dave -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Mat Maessen wrote: And as an added bonus, you can drive a second LCD or CRT display with it, if you don't have enough screen space on the built-in LCD. :-) You may want to double check, that might be available with an Open Firmware hack only. The consumer line usually only does display mirroring, not spanning. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
On 12/10/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: You need BootCamp to install Windows, then it's just a matter of using a control panel to select which OS you want to boot. Keep in mind that the next OS will allow booting into either Mac or Windows. Allegedly. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
gfen wrote: On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Mat Maessen wrote: And as an added bonus, you can drive a second LCD or CRT display with it, if you don't have enough screen space on the built-in LCD. :-) You may want to double check, that might be available with an Open Firmware hack only. The consumer line usually only does display mirroring, not spanning. Nope, the Intels got spanning, the G4/G5's are mirroring only without the hack. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yeah, but that is not available until next spring. And I haven't seen anything definitive yet whether it will allow the two-at-once functionality of Parallels or will require a re-boot to switch systems. Stan On Oct 12, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Cotty wrote: On 12/10/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: You need BootCamp to install Windows, then it's just a matter of using a control panel to select which OS you want to boot. Keep in mind that the next OS will allow booting into either Mac or Windows. Allegedly. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
I have my office machine (a newish MacBook Pro) set up with Parallels since I have to use Windows software to access my email, our server, etc. It all works just fine. You can have Windows full screen, or Minimize, work on OS 10, then click back to Windows when needed. The virtual ethernet port on the virtual machine is clever enough that it shares the pipe with the Mac software, so that email updates are happening in Windows Outlook even while I am using Safari on the Mac.. Slicker than goose droppings on a wet sidewalk! Stan On Oct 12, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Perry Pellechia wrote: Dave, The better option to run Windows on the Mac might be setting it to run in a virtual session with Parallels Desktop ($90). I have my MBP set up so that all my work in Windows is saved directly to my Mac OSX drive. With both operating system running at the same time it is easier to share data between the two. If I was using Windows to run games I think Boot Camp would be the better option. However, when I am running Windows to work up either data or using CorelDraw I usually want access to my Mac OSX programs too (email, firefox etc.). YMMV, Perry. On 10/12/06, Dave Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi mac a doodles.:-) Am i to believe that the imac has all of its hardware in the screen, no tower to worry about kicking it with feet and knee's.?? Also the dual core 2 intel. Is there anything special you need to do/load to work between Mac and Winblows, or do you need to get boot camp or such. Dave David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, 6x7. Nikon D1 D2H D200 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT iMac question
On 10/12/06, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have my office machine (a newish MacBook Pro) set up with Parallels since I have to use Windows software to access my email, our server, etc. It all works just fine. You can have Windows full screen, or Minimize, work on OS 10, then click back to Windows when needed. The virtual ethernet port on the virtual machine is clever enough that it shares the pipe with the Mac software, so that email updates are happening in Windows Outlook even while I am using Safari on the Mac.. Slicker than goose droppings on a wet sidewalk! Stan Hook a monitor/LCD onto that Macbook Pro and have OSX on one display and Windows full screen on the other and now your really talking! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
