Re: PAW Before the fishermen
Hi! RS This PAW is the product of an experiment the focus of which was to preserve the RS colours of the sun rise and sky in the image without sacrificing all detail in RS its foreground. RS To form the image I selectively combined two shots from a +_1 stop bracket in RS Photoshop. I pasted the darker image over the brightest image, registered the RS images (set top layer opacity temporarily to 50%) and then set about RS selectively erasing the areas of the darker image (good sky) with a feathered RS brush at 25% opacity until I came up this: RS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2412599size=lg RS It's not perfect but it gives me a lot of ideas for future images along the RS same vein particularly given that it was only hand held. Indeed this is digital photography in it earnest, so to say. I am afraid personally I am too lazy to learn all the tools that I have... Rob, while you were at it, could you have removed the greenish kinda ghost just on the left bottom of the sun? The whole picture is almost black and white sans the sun and this greenish blob does not belong... It is really great stuff you share with us. Thanks. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
PAW Before the fishermen
This PAW is the product of an experiment the focus of which was to preserve the colours of the sun rise and sky in the image without sacrificing all detail in its foreground. To form the image I selectively combined two shots from a +_1 stop bracket in Photoshop. I pasted the darker image over the brightest image, registered the images (set top layer opacity temporarily to 50%) and then set about selectively erasing the areas of the darker image (good sky) with a feathered brush at 25% opacity until I came up this: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2412599size=lg It's not perfect but it gives me a lot of ideas for future images along the same vein particularly given that it was only hand held. Comments and criticisms welcome. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PAW Before the fishermen
Very nice. I think Miranda had an action that does this automatically. It appears that it is now a full blown plug-in: http://www.fredmiranda.com/DRI rg Rob Studdert wrote: This PAW is the product of an experiment the focus of which was to preserve the colours of the sun rise and sky in the image without sacrificing all detail in its foreground. To form the image I selectively combined two shots from a +_1 stop bracket in Photoshop. I pasted the darker image over the brightest image, registered the images (set top layer opacity temporarily to 50%) and then set about selectively erasing the areas of the darker image (good sky) with a feathered brush at 25% opacity until I came up this: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2412599size=lg It's not perfect but it gives me a lot of ideas for future images along the same vein particularly given that it was only hand held. Comments and criticisms welcome. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PAW Before the fishermen
on 03.06.04 9:42, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To form the image I selectively combined two shots from a +_1 stop bracket in Photoshop. I pasted the darker image over the brightest image, registered the images (set top layer opacity temporarily to 50%) and then set about selectively erasing the areas of the darker image (good sky) with a feathered brush at 25% opacity until I came up this: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2412599size=lg It's not perfect but it gives me a lot of ideas for future images along the same vein particularly given that it was only hand held. Comments and criticisms welcome. Excellent photo, excellent work Bruce! No ne can complain now about narrow latitude of digital media :-) -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: PAW Before the fishermen
On 3 Jun 2004 at 14:21, Dario Bonazza wrote: Rob, That's a truly excellent proof of what digital photography can bring us and how well you are making use of it. You write that picture is not perfect. Maybe in original format it isn't, but the published picture shows no flaws in how you managed that task. I take my hat off to you! (I do hope that's not a bloody insult in Aussie speech :-) G'day Dario :-) Many thanks for the kind words. I have found that as I have become more familiar with the camera I am becoming accustomed to shooting with less regard to frames spent and I can see more and more photographic possibilities opening up. The problem now is that as these new methods aren't normal embedded techniques in my mind as yet I really have to think about what new techniques might be appropriate. This is why I ask so many questions when I find other photographers who have invested the time to try new things and why I'm happy to share what I have discovered too. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PAW Before the fishermen
On 3 Jun 2004 at 8:36, Gonz wrote: Very nice. I think Miranda had an action that does this automatically. It appears that it is now a full blown plug-in: http://www.fredmiranda.com/DRI Thanks. I've been using some HDR tools but I've found them overly sensitive to movement in the image, the ones I've tried are entirely unsuitable for hand held shooting. I see with Freds action that there seems to be no option for manual registration, this would be a bit of a pain for me. In any case the Photoshop technique will provide a reasonable result if it's used wisely but I'm sure the dedicated action would do a far superior job under the right circumstances. Thanks for pointing it out. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: PAW Before the fishermen
Good shot, great technique. Don't you just love photoshop? Of course some may say pictures are becoming hyper-real. They sure are pretty though. -- Of course maybe with photoshop, our pictures are becoming more about what WE perceive, than what the camera perceives... Thanks, Jeff Jonsson Marriott Library, University of Utah 801.585.5587 -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 1:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW Before the fishermen This PAW is the product of an experiment the focus of which was to preserve the colours of the sun rise and sky in the image without sacrificing all detail in its foreground. To form the image I selectively combined two shots from a +_1 stop bracket in Photoshop. I pasted the darker image over the brightest image, registered the images (set top layer opacity temporarily to 50%) and then set about selectively erasing the areas of the darker image (good sky) with a feathered brush at 25% opacity until I came up this: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2412599size=lg It's not perfect but it gives me a lot of ideas for future images along the same vein particularly given that it was only hand held. Comments and criticisms welcome. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: PAW Before the fishermen
Hi Rob ... That's a nice piece of work. I like that you're experimenting with the possibilities that the digital workflow has to offer. Of course, much of what you're doing is translatable to film, as well. What I like about this photo is that the manipulations aren't heavy handed. The boat and sky look to be in pretty good relationship to one another. Having visited Miranda's site, the photos used for example have been treated with a heavy-handed approach. The subtlety of shadows in the evening have been translated to what the foreground might look like during the day instead of how they'd appear in the evening. It's a good tool, but needs judicious application and careful thought and planning - as do most tools. Shel Belinkoff [Original Message] From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] This PAW is the product of an experiment the focus of which was to preserve the colours of the sun rise and sky in the image without sacrificing all detail in its foreground. To form the image I selectively combined two shots from a +_1 stop bracket in Photoshop. I pasted the darker image over the brightest image, registered the images (set top layer opacity temporarily to 50%) and then set about selectively erasing the areas of the darker image (good sky) with a feathered brush at 25% opacity until I came up this: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2412599size=lg It's not perfect but it gives me a lot of ideas for future images along the same vein particularly given that it was only hand held. Comments and criticisms welcome.
RE: PAW Before the fishermen
Very nice work,Rob. I can see a use for this in my photography to. I have experimented with adding a layer and raising or lowering the brightness,then painting in the change.This bracketing may be just the ticket in helping reduce the really bright whites in the jumps. I really like the sun/sky behind the boat.Makes me want to be there. Dave Brooks -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 1:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW Before the fishermen This PAW is the product of an experiment the focus of which was to preserve the colours of the sun rise and sky in the image without sacrificing all detail in its foreground. To form the image I selectively combined two shots from a +_1 stop bracket in Photoshop. I pasted the darker image over the brightest image, registered the images (set top layer opacity temporarily to 50%) and then set about selectively erasing the areas of the darker image (good sky) with a feathered brush at 25% opacity until I came up this: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2412599size=lg It's not perfect but it gives me a lot of ideas for future images along the same vein particularly given that it was only hand held. Comments and criticisms welcome. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PAW Before the fishermen
i use the Reindeer Graphics Photoshop plugins. they supply a nudge tool that works in subpixel amounts. they don't have a rotate tool to correct skew. i assume that they feel the Photoshop tool is satisfactory. Herb - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:13 AM Subject: Re: PAW Before the fishermen Thanks. I've been using some HDR tools but I've found them overly sensitive to movement in the image, the ones I've tried are entirely unsuitable for hand held shooting. I see with Freds action that there seems to be no option for manual registration, this would be a bit of a pain for me. In any case the Photoshop technique will provide a reasonable result if it's used wisely but I'm sure the dedicated action would do a far superior job under the right circumstances. Thanks for pointing it out.
