Re: PESO: LeeAnn W. photo shoot
I got mine when frys did a price match of an adorama sale. Walt wrote: >On 5/21/2013 1:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> Does she have any friends still in the area? >> >> This is one of those cases where word of mouth really helps. >Unfortunately, she wasn't around long enough to develop a lot of >friendships with other young ladies in the area. For the most part, she > >hung around with her boyfriend and his friends and didn't get out much >otherwise. > >> Put the word out that you are looking for models to practice with, >> of any age, shape, size or plumbing. If you make it clear that your >> goal is to practice photography, then women will feel more >comfortable >> that you aren't just a creep (a Guy With a Camera) trying to get them >> out of their clothes. >> >> Also, offer to photograph them *with* their kids. A lot of pretty >> young mothers are more interested in photos of their kids, than of >> themselves. >I get a lot of requests from women who want photos of/with their kids. >They remind me every time I run into them, but they never seem to >follow >up on it. Most of them say, "I want to wait until I lose a little bit >of >weight first, though" when they initially ask me. I try to tell them, >"Oh, hell. You don't need to lose any weight," but it has zero effect. > >> I am very happy with my ASUS transformer TF800. With the keyboard >> it makes a very nice netbook. Also with the keyboard it has slots >> for both micro SD and full SD cards, so I can load it up with >something >> like 96GB of storage all told. >Where did you get yours? It definitely sounds interesting. > >-- Walt -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn W. photo shoot
On 5/21/2013 1:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Does she have any friends still in the area? This is one of those cases where word of mouth really helps. Unfortunately, she wasn't around long enough to develop a lot of friendships with other young ladies in the area. For the most part, she hung around with her boyfriend and his friends and didn't get out much otherwise. Put the word out that you are looking for models to practice with, of any age, shape, size or plumbing. If you make it clear that your goal is to practice photography, then women will feel more comfortable that you aren't just a creep (a Guy With a Camera) trying to get them out of their clothes. Also, offer to photograph them *with* their kids. A lot of pretty young mothers are more interested in photos of their kids, than of themselves. I get a lot of requests from women who want photos of/with their kids. They remind me every time I run into them, but they never seem to follow up on it. Most of them say, "I want to wait until I lose a little bit of weight first, though" when they initially ask me. I try to tell them, "Oh, hell. You don't need to lose any weight," but it has zero effect. I am very happy with my ASUS transformer TF800. With the keyboard it makes a very nice netbook. Also with the keyboard it has slots for both micro SD and full SD cards, so I can load it up with something like 96GB of storage all told. Where did you get yours? It definitely sounds interesting. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 01:07:25PM -0500, Walt wrote: > On 5/21/2013 11:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > >On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 02:27:35PM -0500, Walt wrote: > >>I thoroughly enjoy doing shoots like the one I did with LeeAnn -- as > >>most men would, I suppose. Unfortunately, my lack of experience > >>shows in too many of my shots, and I just flat-out don't know any of > >>the experienced photographers in my area in order to pick their > >>brains and steal their ideas. > > Thanks for the perspective, Larry. And, yes, LeeAnn said they were > the best photos she's ever had taken. > > There is one downside in all of it, though. She moved to Georgia > this past weekend. Though, she does have family in the area (her > mom) and is anxious to do more photo shoots when she's back in town. Does she have any friends still in the area? This is one of those cases where word of mouth really helps. Put the word out that you are looking for models to practice with, of any age, shape, size or plumbing. If you make it clear that your goal is to practice photography, then women will feel more comfortable that you aren't just a creep (a Guy With a Camera) trying to get them out of their clothes. Also, offer to photograph them *with* their kids. A lot of pretty young mothers are more interested in photos of their kids, than of themselves. > > So, I have that to look forward to. In the meantime, I have my eye > on another young lady who works at the little Burger Bar up the > street from me. Porcelain skin, dark hair and piercing blue eyes. > > I just have to catch her when she's working and approach her about > it. I'm thinking about getting a tablet so I can show some of my > work to potential models. I hear the Kindle Fire HD has a really > nice display. I am very happy with my ASUS transformer TF800. With the keyboard it makes a very nice netbook. Also with the keyboard it has slots for both micro SD and full SD cards, so I can load it up with something like 96GB of storage all told. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn W. photo shoot
On 5/21/2013 11:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 02:27:35PM -0500, Walt wrote: I thoroughly enjoy doing shoots like the one I did with LeeAnn -- as most men would, I suppose. Unfortunately, my lack of experience shows in too many of my shots, and I just flat-out don't know any of the experienced photographers in my area in order to pick their brains and steal their ideas. 1) Experience is how we keep from making mistakes. Mistakes are how we gain experience. 2) You got some great shots. Despite my reputation for profligate posting, you really only need one to, at most, six keepers from a photo shoot, and you definitely got those. 3) There is a good chance that these are some of the best pictures LeeAnn has of herself. 4) "These are good, but I got some advice on how to do even better" is a great reason to do another photo shoot with her. I don't see any downside here. Thanks for the perspective, Larry. And, yes, LeeAnn said they were the best photos she's ever had taken. There is one downside in all of it, though. She moved to Georgia this past weekend. Though, she does have family in the area (her mom) and is anxious to do more photo shoots when she's back in town. So, I have that to look forward to. In the meantime, I have my eye on another young lady who works at the little Burger Bar up the street from me. Porcelain skin, dark hair and piercing blue eyes. I just have to catch her when she's working and approach her about it. I'm thinking about getting a tablet so I can show some of my work to potential models. I hear the Kindle Fire HD has a really nice display. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 02:27:35PM -0500, Walt wrote: > > I thoroughly enjoy doing shoots like the one I did with LeeAnn -- as > most men would, I suppose. Unfortunately, my lack of experience > shows in too many of my shots, and I just flat-out don't know any of > the experienced photographers in my area in order to pick their > brains and steal their ideas. 1) Experience is how we keep from making mistakes. Mistakes are how we gain experience. 2) You got some great shots. Despite my reputation for profligate posting, you really only need one to, at most, six keepers from a photo shoot, and you definitely got those. 3) There is a good chance that these are some of the best pictures LeeAnn has of herself. 4) "These are good, but I got some advice on how to do even better" is a great reason to do another photo shoot with her. I don't see any downside here. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 03:08:55PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: > Walt, this is where some understanding and experience with light pays > off. Light coming from the same direction as your lens shows no > surface shadows. Angled or oblique light shows increasing amount of > surface detail. Light coming from 90 degrees to your lens will reveal > a lot of surface detail by casting lots of shadow. Worst of all (for > skin) is hard light -- a point source like the sun -- coming from > right angles. A classic example of this is your picture of David and Glenn. Note how the hard side lighting brings out every feature of their skin. This is why I hate to say something is good or bad for photography, I much prefer to say things like side lighting will show every detail in the skin, something most women dislike. Or, a 77mm lens will show less of the background than a 50mm lens, so that you need to shoot from further back. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Amazon has used copies of the latest edition of "Light Science & Magic" for less than $30. http://www.amazon.com/Light-Science-Magic-Introduction-Photographic/dp/0240812255/ref=dp_ob_title_bk From: Bruce Walker On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Walt wrote: I'm just so attuned to using available and ambient light that it's become a crutch for me, and not having a flash unit has become a bit of an excuse for me to not learn anything about it. Knowing about light applies to _all_ light, not just flash. Read these two tutorials on using ambient light for portraits: http://robertmccadden.tumblr.com/post/12550201802/molding-ambient-light-part-1 http://robertmccadden.tumblr.com/post/14155197952/molding-ambient-light-part-two Not a flash in sight there. Gorgeous results. So, over time, I guess I've developed a "close enough for government work" attitude when it comes to lighting. I thoroughly enjoy doing shoots like the one I did with LeeAnn -- as most men would, I suppose. Unfortunately, my lack of experience shows in too many of my shots, and I just flat-out don't know any of the experienced photographers in my area in order to pick their brains and steal their ideas. Online videos aren't as good as in-person, but they're still useful. I can highly recommend the Manfrotto School of Excellence vids: https://vimeo.com/manfrottomedia/videos and AdoramaTV has a huge number of good 10 minute videos as well. Eg: http://www.adorama.com/alc/0013614/article/Shooting-With-Available-Light-AdoramaTV -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Speaking of available light... Doug, are you going to peso that shot you posted? Bruce Walker wrote: >On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Walt wrote: >> >> I'm just so attuned to using >> available and ambient light that it's become a crutch for me, and not >having >> a flash unit has become a bit of an excuse for me to not learn >anything >> about it. > >Knowing about light applies to _all_ light, not just flash. Read these >two tutorials on using ambient light for portraits: > >http://robertmccadden.tumblr.com/post/12550201802/molding-ambient-light-part-1 >http://robertmccadden.tumblr.com/post/14155197952/molding-ambient-light-part-two > >Not a flash in sight there. Gorgeous results. > > >> So, over time, I guess I've developed a "close enough for government >work" >> attitude when it comes to lighting. >> >> I thoroughly enjoy doing shoots like the one I did with LeeAnn -- as >most >> men would, I suppose. Unfortunately, my lack of experience shows in >too many >> of my shots, and I just flat-out don't know any of the experienced >> photographers in my area in order to pick their brains and steal >their >> ideas. > >Online videos aren't as good as in-person, but they're still useful. I >can highly recommend the Manfrotto School of Excellence vids: > >https://vimeo.com/manfrottomedia/videos > >and AdoramaTV has a huge number of good 10 minute videos as well. Eg: > >http://www.adorama.com/alc/0013614/article/Shooting-With-Available-Light-AdoramaTV > > >-- >-bmw -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Walt wrote: > > I'm just so attuned to using > available and ambient light that it's become a crutch for me, and not having > a flash unit has become a bit of an excuse for me to not learn anything > about it. Knowing about light applies to _all_ light, not just flash. Read these two tutorials on using ambient light for portraits: http://robertmccadden.tumblr.com/post/12550201802/molding-ambient-light-part-1 http://robertmccadden.tumblr.com/post/14155197952/molding-ambient-light-part-two Not a flash in sight there. Gorgeous results. > So, over time, I guess I've developed a "close enough for government work" > attitude when it comes to lighting. > > I thoroughly enjoy doing shoots like the one I did with LeeAnn -- as most > men would, I suppose. Unfortunately, my lack of experience shows in too many > of my shots, and I just flat-out don't know any of the experienced > photographers in my area in order to pick their brains and steal their > ideas. Online videos aren't as good as in-person, but they're still useful. I can highly recommend the Manfrotto School of Excellence vids: https://vimeo.com/manfrottomedia/videos and AdoramaTV has a huge number of good 10 minute videos as well. Eg: http://www.adorama.com/alc/0013614/article/Shooting-With-Available-Light-AdoramaTV -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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These are great, Walt, but I think you can have a tighter edit. On 16/05/2013 3:25 AM, Walt wrote: I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for the tips and links, Bruce. I did make an effort to try an minimize the shadows as best I could, but I was cursed with a very sunny, clear, blue sky that day. My biggest challenge was getting her as well lit as I could without pointing her face directly toward the sun so that she'd be squinting. Then, of course, came the harsh shadows when we ventured to the shady area where the graffiti was. Someone with a reflector would have really come in handy. I wish I'd had more time to prepare for the thing, though I admit that given all the time in the world, I probably wouldn't have thought to get someone to hold a reflector for me. I'm just so attuned to using available and ambient light that it's become a crutch for me, and not having a flash unit has become a bit of an excuse for me to not learn anything about it. So, over time, I guess I've developed a "close enough for government work" attitude when it comes to lighting. I thoroughly enjoy doing shoots like the one I did with LeeAnn -- as most men would, I suppose. Unfortunately, my lack of experience shows in too many of my shots, and I just flat-out don't know any of the experienced photographers in my area in order to pick their brains and steal their ideas. -- Walt On 5/18/2013 2:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Walt, this is where some understanding and experience with light pays off. Light coming from the same direction as your lens shows no surface shadows. Angled or oblique light shows increasing amount of surface detail. Light coming from 90 degrees to your lens will reveal a lot of surface detail by casting lots of shadow. Worst of all (for skin) is hard light -- a point source like the sun -- coming from right angles. It's a very bad plan to side-light a person's face with hard light, especially if they have imperfect skin. If they have great skin, they've had proper makeup and/or you intend to do retouching you can get away with it. It's generally best to illuminate women with soft or diffuse light. Light coming from a large number of angles fills in the shadows and hides skin imperfections. Open shade is better than glare sun. Flash through an umbrella is better than bare bulb. If your subject's legs have mottled skin then do what you can to either hide it or avoid angled light falling there. Have her cross one leg in front of the other, have her stretch her legs (eg pointing toes), block sunlight from falling on them, etc. Poses that tighten or stretch the problem skin can help. You'll find lots of posing tips in webinars and videos if you Google a bit. Look up Christa Meola. She shoots "ordinary" women and makes them look glamorous. http://christameola.com/ Her book is excellent. Also Jen Rozenbaum. http://www.jenerationsblog.com/ On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Walt wrote: Thanks, Marnie. It's strange, but when you (or I, at least) see the girl's thighs in person, there's not the slightest hint of cellulite. Of course, I suppose that's something I just overlooked. I did try fiddling with getting that out of a few shots using a "skin softening" brush in Lightroom. I just wasn't thrilled with the results I got and need to go back and learn how to use it more effectively. -- Walt On 5/18/2013 10:53 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I'd photoshop out the cellulite on the back of her thighs. Okay, I do not understand men's fascination with photographing women. Heh. And often the model is one I think isn't that great looking, even though the men usually do. Considering all that, nice gallery and I like the shot you like best too. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/15/2013 10:25:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn W. photo shoot
Walt, this is where some understanding and experience with light pays off. Light coming from the same direction as your lens shows no surface shadows. Angled or oblique light shows increasing amount of surface detail. Light coming from 90 degrees to your lens will reveal a lot of surface detail by casting lots of shadow. Worst of all (for skin) is hard light -- a point source like the sun -- coming from right angles. It's a very bad plan to side-light a person's face with hard light, especially if they have imperfect skin. If they have great skin, they've had proper makeup and/or you intend to do retouching you can get away with it. It's generally best to illuminate women with soft or diffuse light. Light coming from a large number of angles fills in the shadows and hides skin imperfections. Open shade is better than glare sun. Flash through an umbrella is better than bare bulb. If your subject's legs have mottled skin then do what you can to either hide it or avoid angled light falling there. Have her cross one leg in front of the other, have her stretch her legs (eg pointing toes), block sunlight from falling on them, etc. Poses that tighten or stretch the problem skin can help. You'll find lots of posing tips in webinars and videos if you Google a bit. Look up Christa Meola. She shoots "ordinary" women and makes them look glamorous. http://christameola.com/ Her book is excellent. Also Jen Rozenbaum. http://www.jenerationsblog.com/ On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Walt wrote: > Thanks, Marnie. > > It's strange, but when you (or I, at least) see the girl's thighs in person, > there's not the slightest hint of cellulite. Of course, I suppose that's > something I just overlooked. > > I did try fiddling with getting that out of a few shots using a "skin > softening" brush in Lightroom. I just wasn't thrilled with the results I got > and need to go back and learn how to use it more effectively. > > -- Walt > > > On 5/18/2013 10:53 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: >> >> I'd photoshop out the cellulite on the back of her thighs. Okay, I do not >> understand men's fascination with photographing women. Heh. And often the >> model is one I think isn't that great looking, even though the men >> usually >> do. >> >> Considering all that, nice gallery and I like the shot you like best too. >> >> Marnie aka Doe :-) >> >> In a message dated 5/15/2013 10:25:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> ldott...@gmail.com writes: >> I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo >> shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite >> shots: >> >> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ >> >> Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a >> look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, >> so it's a standard Flickr set. >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ >> >> -- Walt >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Marnie. It's strange, but when you (or I, at least) see the girl's thighs in person, there's not the slightest hint of cellulite. Of course, I suppose that's something I just overlooked. I did try fiddling with getting that out of a few shots using a "skin softening" brush in Lightroom. I just wasn't thrilled with the results I got and need to go back and learn how to use it more effectively. -- Walt On 5/18/2013 10:53 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I'd photoshop out the cellulite on the back of her thighs. Okay, I do not understand men's fascination with photographing women. Heh. And often the model is one I think isn't that great looking, even though the men usually do. Considering all that, nice gallery and I like the shot you like best too. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/15/2013 10:25:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I was sort of joking, you know. I don't find most men's shots of women all that engaging. Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 5/18/2013 9:25:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes: It's the eternal dance. It doesn't have to make sense. From: Eactivist > I'd photoshop out the cellulite on the back of her thighs. Okay, I do not > understand men's fascination with photographing women. Heh. And often the > model is one I think isn't that great looking, even though the men usually > do. > > Considering all that, nice gallery and I like the shot you like best too. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) > > In a message dated 5/15/2013 10:25:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > ldott...@gmail.com writes: > I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo > shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite > shots: > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ > > Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a > look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, > so it's a standard Flickr set. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It's the eternal dance. It doesn't have to make sense. From: Eactivist I'd photoshop out the cellulite on the back of her thighs. Okay, I do not understand men's fascination with photographing women. Heh. And often the model is one I think isn't that great looking, even though the men usually do. Considering all that, nice gallery and I like the shot you like best too. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/15/2013 10:25:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'd photoshop out the cellulite on the back of her thighs. Okay, I do not understand men's fascination with photographing women. Heh. And often the model is one I think isn't that great looking, even though the men usually do. Considering all that, nice gallery and I like the shot you like best too. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/15/2013 10:25:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Frank. She's a joy to work with. I really hope I get a few more opportunities soon. I have to say she played a big part in any of the shots that turned out well. I gave her the most basic ideas and she just took off from there. After that, it was just a matter of encouragement. -- Walt On 5/16/2013 5:49 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That's a fine set. She seems really comfortable and is obviously having fun. I'd say that's likely a compliment to your skills as a photographer since she's not a model. I can't imagine but that she'll be pleased with these. Great work! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: May 15, 2013 5/15/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: LeeAnn W. photo shoot I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/16/2013 6:01 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Standouts for me Walt: 1561 1686 1740 1761 1813 1893 1902 Bin everything else. These are fantastic. Thank you, Steve! I'll definitely put those on the print list. I still haven't quite got the hang of separating the wheat from the chaff, so I really appreciate any kind of input I can get on sets like this. I'd like to be able to put together a reasonably competitive portfolio at some point in the near future, and this kind of input helps a lot. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 15/5/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: >I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo >shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: > >http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ > >Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a >look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, >so it's a standard Flickr set. > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ Standouts for me Walt: 1561 1686 1740 1761 1813 1893 1902 Bin everything else. These are fantastic. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's a fine set. She seems really comfortable and is obviously having fun. I'd say that's likely a compliment to your skills as a photographer since she's not a model. I can't imagine but that she'll be pleased with these. Great work! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: May 15, 2013 5/15/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: LeeAnn W. photo shoot I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/15/2013 10:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 08:25:44PM -0500, Walt wrote: Where the hell are all these children coming from? If you don't know by now, that probably explains a lot about your romantic life. This "romantic life" of which you speak; tell me more. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 08:25:44PM -0500, Walt wrote: > Where the hell are all these children coming from? If you don't know by now, that probably explains a lot about your romantic life. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/15/2013 9:13 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 16 May 2013 03:25, Walt wrote: I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ Hey Walt, Glad she finally came to the party, you have some great images in that set, I'm sure that LeeAnn will be thrilled! Great work. Cheers, Thank you much, Rob! I was just going through some of the outtakes from the shoot yesterday and discovered a big part of the reason none of my shots from the railroad tracks came out. Seems I forgot to reset my ISO back to 160 after I finished shooting in the shadows where I took the graffiti shots. One of these days, I'm going to sit down a create a checklist, dammit. Ah, well -- it's an excuse to wrangle he back out there for another shot at it. Suits me. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 16 May 2013 03:25, Walt wrote: > I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo > shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ > > Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. > For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a > standard Flickr set. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ Hey Walt, Glad she finally came to the party, you have some great images in that set, I'm sure that LeeAnn will be thrilled! Great work. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/15/2013 8:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I certainly hope to, but I'm afraid she may be moving to Georgia soon. It's still kind of up in the air, so maybe she'll be around a little longer. If so, I'm sure to get more opportunities. Explain to her that moving to Georgia is a terrible mistake. She should move to Santa Cruz. Ha! She actually would love Santa Cruz. Of course, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't. I do need to get one of those shields, for sure, and would have loved to have had one yesterday. Unfortunately, it was so impromptu, I wouldn't have had a chance to recruit anyone to hold it. It went from setting time and place to execution within a matter of an hour. She's just finished her shift at Cracker Barrel, and the biggest issue she's had in doing shoots has been getting someone to watch her children. I could've gotten my niece to hold it, but she was the one who volunteered to watch the children. Dude! Get the children to hold the fill reflectors. duh! I could try that, I suppose. She was actually considering taking her daughter (5 years old) with her for the shoot, but my niece stepped up. Her son, on the other hand, is still a toddler. I have another niece who's into photography, so I may be able to get her to help with the reflectors in the future. Alas, she has a toddler of her own. Where the hell are all these children coming from? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 06:01:34PM -0500, Walt wrote: > >Seriously though, whatever glass you use, she has a lot of wonderful > >smiles in that series, and you should spend more time photographing them. > I certainly hope to, but I'm afraid she may be moving to Georgia > soon. It's still kind of up in the air, so maybe she'll be around a > little longer. If so, I'm sure to get more opportunities. Explain to her that moving to Georgia is a terrible mistake. She should move to Santa Cruz. > I do need to get one of those shields, for sure, and would have > loved to have had one yesterday. Unfortunately, it was so impromptu, > I wouldn't have had a chance to recruit anyone to hold it. It went > from setting time and place to execution within a matter of an hour. > She's just finished her shift at Cracker Barrel, and the biggest > issue she's had in doing shoots has been getting someone to watch > her children. I could've gotten my niece to hold it, but she was the > one who volunteered to watch the children. Dude! Get the children to hold the fill reflectors. duh! -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/15/2013 6:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Walt wrote: On 5/15/2013 1:23 PM, Larry Colen wrote: LeeAnn has a wonderful smile, and to truly show it off to it's best advantage, you really need to come in closer and shoot more portraits. Even if that means you need to invest in a 77/1.8. :-) Someday. If I have to move heaven and earth, I'll have one. You know, given that you have an APS-C body, you are better off with your fast 50mm for portraits than you would be with a 77mm. Classic portrait lenses are typically found around the 70-80mm range on 35mm film format and that 50mm is equivalent to 75mm on your APS-C body so it's nicely situated in that "portrait" range. You really don't want to be too far from your subject when you're shooting people. You need to interact with them: suggest poses, wave your arm to indicate "look over here", etc. Plus it helps make them less nervous if you aren't 15 or 20 feet away with a long lens. Save the dough, Walt. You'll find something more useful to blow a grand on. :) -- -bmw I am just so taken with the rendering of the 77/1.8. I got a shot (now lost to a drive crash some time ago) of a young lady in a red dress at a bar in Santa Cruz using Larry's copy that made me want to sell my soul for that lens. The shot wasn't that great -- terribly underexposed, in fact. But, there was something about the look of that shot that I just can't quantify. I was immediately smitten, though. And I think it would be perfect for my casual, unposed and environmental portraits -- just enough focal length to allow me a little stealth. My F 50/1.7 and FA 50/1.4 are no slouches by any means. In fact, I've shot with little else since owning them and have been very happy with them both. But that 77/1.8 is a bit of a holy grail for me. But, yeah -- there are more useful things to spend the money on -- and it's going to be a while before I sock away enough dough to get it. I'll focus on more practical things in the meantime -- like reflectors, lighting, etc. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Many thanks, Bruce. I really wish I'd had time to recruit a helper for the shoot. This thing was such a hurried affair that I was thinking of places to go while we were in the car leaving the previous location. Hopefully, I'll have a chance to do a little prep the next time I get out on a shoot, so I can recruit someone to hold the reflector. That would have definitely helped out in this situation. Sad to say, I had an opportunity to get a bunch of reflectors and some lights for an obscenely low price a few weeks ago, but the F 50/1.7 became available at the same time, and I couldn't pass that up. But, I've committed myself to buying NO MORE lenses until I can save up enough for a 77/1.8 (unless some crazy-ass deal comes up on something equally nice). So, I'm going to invest in reflectors and lighting equipment relatively soon. The hard part at that point will be finding a willing assistant. I suppose I could lie and tell some guy it's going to be a nude shoot. I'm fairly happy with the results, but I agree they could have been much better with a little planning. The whole thing, first shot to last, took place in a little over two hours, and I didn't know it was going to happen until an hour before the first shot. I should probably find a better way to do things. ;) Thanks for the input, Bruce! In fact, I'll run up to the dollar store and get some foam core this evening, just to make sure I have it handy next time something like this happens. -- Walt P/S -- as for the Flickriver feed, it finally caught up with Flickr about an hour later. I guess it takes a little time for it to update. On 5/15/2013 2:31 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: An excellent set of shots from your outing, Walt. I'm glad to see you tried lots of locations and poses. Good idea to include props and a story (like the spray paint). A lot of notable ones; 1758 has great light and a nice pose; I also like 1602. I really like everything about 1648 (pose, expression, framing all spot on) except the overexposure on her skin. (Here's where bounce fill camera-right would have made this shot perfect.) Light, as Larry mentioned, is an issue in a number of shots, but I think pretty darn good in general. You were coping with full sun in a whole bunch and you got quite reasonable shots. I would suggest a piece of white foam-core (eg: 2'x3'; from the craft or dollar store) for fill light in full sunshine situtaions. A silver auto-shade is excellent for lower light conditions, like open shade or cloudy sky, but you'll blind your subject and subject them to more harsh light in full outdoor sun. Even better: search for ``43" 5 in 1 reflector'' on Amazon or eBay. They collapse to 15", come in a bag and are as cheap as $12. http://www.amazon.com/LimoStudio-Photography-Lighting-Reflector-Translucent/dp/B005QR59IA BTW: I had no trouble viewing this as a Flickriver stream at this URL: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Walt wrote: I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Walt wrote: > On 5/15/2013 1:23 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> LeeAnn has a wonderful smile, and to truly show it off to it's >> best advantage, you really need to come in closer and shoot >> more portraits. Even if that means you need to invest in a 77/1.8. >> :-) > > Someday. If I have to move heaven and earth, I'll have one. You know, given that you have an APS-C body, you are better off with your fast 50mm for portraits than you would be with a 77mm. Classic portrait lenses are typically found around the 70-80mm range on 35mm film format and that 50mm is equivalent to 75mm on your APS-C body so it's nicely situated in that "portrait" range. You really don't want to be too far from your subject when you're shooting people. You need to interact with them: suggest poses, wave your arm to indicate "look over here", etc. Plus it helps make them less nervous if you aren't 15 or 20 feet away with a long lens. Save the dough, Walt. You'll find something more useful to blow a grand on. :) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/15/2013 1:23 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I think that my favorite is the "close up" followed by 1560. LeeAnn has a wonderful smile, and to truly show it off to it's best advantage, you really need to come in closer and shoot more portraits. Even if that means you need to invest in a 77/1.8. :-) Someday. If I have to move heaven and earth, I'll have one. Seriously though, whatever glass you use, she has a lot of wonderful smiles in that series, and you should spend more time photographing them. I certainly hope to, but I'm afraid she may be moving to Georgia soon. It's still kind of up in the air, so maybe she'll be around a little longer. If so, I'm sure to get more opportunities. My biggest complaint with the series is the lighting. You need to get some fill light on her. Rather than spending money on flashes, just pick up a reflective windshield shade, and get someone to stand just out of frame and aim the reflections for fill. I do need to get one of those shields, for sure, and would have loved to have had one yesterday. Unfortunately, it was so impromptu, I wouldn't have had a chance to recruit anyone to hold it. It went from setting time and place to execution within a matter of an hour. She's just finished her shift at Cracker Barrel, and the biggest issue she's had in doing shoots has been getting someone to watch her children. I could've gotten my niece to hold it, but she was the one who volunteered to watch the children. In the fields of yellow flowers, you did a great job with focus and depth of field. A shot that I'd love to see, would be like 1518, but shot with a long lens (so that the out of focus horse in the background is a bigger compositional element. Perhaps of her sitting or lying in the grass so you can have a portrait, with the flowers fading from in focus, to out of focus in the background. I actually took my K20D with the 70-300 attached, but never touched the thing once. I pretty much forgot all about it. I'll try your shot suggestion next time I get a chance -- hopefully, soon. All in all, that's a nice set (of photos) and I'm sure that she'll be very pleased. Thanks, Larry. I think she really liked the shots, and enjoyed the shoot. She loves having her picture taken. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Doug. I didn't get many keepers out of the railroad track set. I just couldn't come up with any good ideas for poses, and my composition just flat-out sucked when I did come up with them. I'm going to take another whack at that location sometime soon, to see if I can figure out how to properly use them as an element. -- Walt On 5/15/2013 1:20 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Good set. Cute girl. 1912 is my favorite of the bunch. On 5/15/13 2:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Well done. You captured a feeling of earthiness. Powerful images. I like 1761 quite a lot. Paul On May 15, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Walt wrote: I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Paul. That was among my favorites, too. And she really enjoyed posing with the graffiti. -- Walt On 5/15/2013 1:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Well done. You captured a feeling of earthiness. Powerful images. I like 1761 quite a lot. Paul On May 15, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Walt wrote: I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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An excellent set of shots from your outing, Walt. I'm glad to see you tried lots of locations and poses. Good idea to include props and a story (like the spray paint). A lot of notable ones; 1758 has great light and a nice pose; I also like 1602. I really like everything about 1648 (pose, expression, framing all spot on) except the overexposure on her skin. (Here's where bounce fill camera-right would have made this shot perfect.) Light, as Larry mentioned, is an issue in a number of shots, but I think pretty darn good in general. You were coping with full sun in a whole bunch and you got quite reasonable shots. I would suggest a piece of white foam-core (eg: 2'x3'; from the craft or dollar store) for fill light in full sunshine situtaions. A silver auto-shade is excellent for lower light conditions, like open shade or cloudy sky, but you'll blind your subject and subject them to more harsh light in full outdoor sun. Even better: search for ``43" 5 in 1 reflector'' on Amazon or eBay. They collapse to 15", come in a bag and are as cheap as $12. http://www.amazon.com/LimoStudio-Photography-Lighting-Reflector-Translucent/dp/B005QR59IA BTW: I had no trouble viewing this as a Flickriver stream at this URL: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Walt wrote: > I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo > shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ > > Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. > For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a > standard Flickr set. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:25:24PM -0500, Walt wrote: > I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a > photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my > favorite shots: > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ > > Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a > look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the > set, so it's a standard Flickr set. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ I think that my favorite is the "close up" followed by 1560. LeeAnn has a wonderful smile, and to truly show it off to it's best advantage, you really need to come in closer and shoot more portraits. Even if that means you need to invest in a 77/1.8. :-) Seriously though, whatever glass you use, she has a lot of wonderful smiles in that series, and you should spend more time photographing them. My biggest complaint with the series is the lighting. You need to get some fill light on her. Rather than spending money on flashes, just pick up a reflective windshield shade, and get someone to stand just out of frame and aim the reflections for fill. In the fields of yellow flowers, you did a great job with focus and depth of field. A shot that I'd love to see, would be like 1518, but shot with a long lens (so that the out of focus horse in the background is a bigger compositional element. Perhaps of her sitting or lying in the grass so you can have a portrait, with the flowers fading from in focus, to out of focus in the background. All in all, that's a nice set (of photos) and I'm sure that she'll be very pleased. > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Good set. Cute girl. 1912 is my favorite of the bunch. On 5/15/13 2:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Well done. You captured a feeling of earthiness. Powerful images. I like 1761 quite a lot. Paul On May 15, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Walt wrote: I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well done. You captured a feeling of earthiness. Powerful images. I like 1761 quite a lot. Paul On May 15, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Walt wrote: > I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot > to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ > > Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. > For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a > standard Flickr set. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I finally managed to get the young lady I've been pestering for a photo shoot to get out and take photos yesterday. Here's one of my favorite shots: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8741925218/ Here's the rest of the gallery should anyone take a notion to have a look. For some reason, Flickriver isn't showing any photos in the set, so it's a standard Flickr set. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157633486638871/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/12/2013 2:36 PM, Bob W wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt I have to admit that a good part of the resistance I have to taking up flash photography is pure laziness. Aside from the fact that I don't have an inkling as to what the photo is going to look like when I decide to use it, I do find the technical aspects of it a little intimidating. I used to find it intimidating and I didn't learn to use manual flash until after I had TTL flash on automated cameras. But when I found I wanted to use flash on my M3 and only had an automated flash for a Pentax I bit the bullet and discovered that manual flash is really surprisingly easy, to the extent that now, on the rare occasions I use flash, always just use manual. The best way to do it subtly is to use a tilt/swivel head and bounce it off the corner of the ceiling, so it gets a good diffuse spread, and set it to about 1 or 2 stops below the indicated reading. The only mildly difficult thing about this is that you have to calcuguess the distance from flash to subject taking into account the bounce. But in general it's going to be about 2.5 times the camera-to-subject distance as the crow flies, and your focus scale will tell you what that is. Alternatively just get double the distance from the camera to the point where the flash bounces. You set the shutter speed to the flash-sync speed, set the aperture to match the flash-to-subject distance - you read this off the table on the back of the flash; it varies with the ISO - adjust by -1 stop if you want, then focus and shoot. In the good old days, paparazzi used to set things up so that they always shot their subjects from the same distance - typically a full-length, so they never had to adjust their camera settings and were guaranteed to get a shot in focus, properly exposed. B Thanks for the tips, Bob! I think I approach photography with too great a sense of urgency sometimes. I don't like to spend a great deal of time fiddling and figuring, and that's what flash photography has always represented to me. I guess I'm a kind of Philistine/Luddite in that regard. "You fancy-pants photographers with your flashes and your gels and your fongdongs and your softboxes. Get off my lawn!" -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Frank! She's a very photogenic young lady. I can see the Julia Roberts resemblance you're referring to, but have to agree with P.J. -- I think she's actually prettier. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 8:20 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That's an excellent photo. She has a "young Julia Roberts" look about her. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: February 11, 2013 2/11/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt > > I have to admit that a good part of the resistance I have to taking up > flash photography is pure laziness. Aside from the fact that I don't > have an inkling as to what the photo is going to look like when I > decide to use it, I do find the technical aspects of it a little > intimidating. I used to find it intimidating and I didn't learn to use manual flash until after I had TTL flash on automated cameras. But when I found I wanted to use flash on my M3 and only had an automated flash for a Pentax I bit the bullet and discovered that manual flash is really surprisingly easy, to the extent that now, on the rare occasions I use flash, always just use manual. The best way to do it subtly is to use a tilt/swivel head and bounce it off the corner of the ceiling, so it gets a good diffuse spread, and set it to about 1 or 2 stops below the indicated reading. The only mildly difficult thing about this is that you have to calcuguess the distance from flash to subject taking into account the bounce. But in general it's going to be about 2.5 times the camera-to-subject distance as the crow flies, and your focus scale will tell you what that is. Alternatively just get double the distance from the camera to the point where the flash bounces. You set the shutter speed to the flash-sync speed, set the aperture to match the flash-to-subject distance - you read this off the table on the back of the flash; it varies with the ISO - adjust by -1 stop if you want, then focus and shoot. In the good old days, paparazzi used to set things up so that they always shot their subjects from the same distance - typically a full-length, so they never had to adjust their camera settings and were guaranteed to get a shot in focus, properly exposed. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/11/2013 7:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote: You don't need to invest a lot to get a strobe well worth learning with. I'd suggest a dumb manual strobe. You can find them used for under $50. You can pick up a cheap radio trigger pair for $20, or a hongkong strobe extension cable for about the same. ephotoinc has a strobe that screws into a lightbulb socket and will trigger with either a PC cable or optically for about $20. I think you'd be better off with a dumb speedlight with adjustable power, and ideally, optical trigger, though you can buy optical triggers for about $10. One of the biggest obstacles for me as it relates to using flash is my complete and utter ignorance. I'm like Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer; your world frightens and confuses me. My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts! I've lost track of the number of times that I've recommended light, science & magic, probably a few of them to you. That'll help with either ambient or artificial light. It will also help you understand the difference between how a diffuser works and a fongdong (or a light grenade as I call them, because they throw photons everywhere). One of the few things I have learned about flash photography is the absolute necessity of diffusers. Though, what makes a fongdong preferable in some situations as opposed to others, I couldn't begin to guess. All I know is that, when I use flash and the image doesn't have the lighting I was looking for, it's because I wasn't standing in the right place -- either too close, too far, or too far off to one side or the other. My entire experience with flash photography amounts to, "OK, well I don't have enough light, so I have use a flash." [Engage pop-up flash, take photo] "Well, that was certainly enough light, but I really didn't want it to look that way. Screw it." The problems with using a flash are that they can be really obnoxious/distracting and if you don't know what you're doing you are almost more likely to ruin a shot than get it right. Heretofore there are a whole bunch of shots that were just impossible to get without a flash. With a K-5 and occasionally being able to get shots with ISOs up to 25,600, that set has gotten orders of magnitude smaller than in the film era. That's just about word-for-word my view on the matter. When I go shooting, I want to carry as little gear as possible. If I can get away with it, I'll carry two cameras mounted with two lenses representing a fair focal range, and nothing else. Not even a tripod, as I find them cumbersome. And the beauty of the K-5 is that it goes a long way toward eliminating the need for flash in many situations -- though, admittedly, there's a great deal to be said for the creative use of flash to highlight certain elements of an image. I get that. It's just that I find it easier to wait for the scene to present itself to me in a pleasing manner than to force the scene to conform to my vision by introducing more light, or changing the nature of the lighting. For example, if I see a beautiful young lady who has striking eyes (or any other part of her anatomy), I find it easier to just keep an eye on her and wait until she's in a place where I can capture them, and then move in. It just strikes me as less awkward than telling her, "Stop right there! Don't move!" and then blasting light all over the place several times until I get it just right. There's a certain stylistic element beyond that, too. I love capturing unguarded moments and expressions more than I enjoy creating flawless exposures. Obviously, that's not an either/or proposition, but as a matter of creative priority, I tend to focus on a particular element that I find especially pleasing rather than trying to get the whole thing *just right*. I suppose that's a flaw -- maybe even a cop-out excuse for not learning one of the fundamentals of photography as well as I should. But, that's just the kind of half-assed photographer I've developed into. When I see someone who has features that cry out to be photographed, be it a classically beautiful facial structure, a winsome smile, or a front porch like the Taj Mahal, that's what I want to capture. The overall lighting only matters to me to the extent that it accentuates what I'm trying to capture. With available light, I know it when I see it. With flash, I don't know what the hell it's going to do. In other words, flash doesn't have to stupid expensive, and learning how to use it can make a huge difference in your photos. It'll also help you learn how to use available light better. Now, that is an interesting point and a good reason to take it up. Anything that will teach me how to better use available light is an unvarnished good thing. Whatever results in less time spent fiddling with the camera (or anything else) and more time pressing the shutter button can only be beneficial. There's nothing I hate more than seeing a great shot, asking someone to hold stil
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> > What I really need is to take a course in practical flash photography > with a very rudimentary focus on the science and technical aspects -- > just enough to lend a little predictability. As it stands, the only > thing I can predict when using flash is that the flash will go off. If I > can just learn the very basics of herding photons, I'd be a lot more > comfortable using it. As it is, I'm completely mystified by it and > wonder how anyone ever manages to get predictable results -- especially > when using multiple remote flash units. (E.g., http://is.gd/7z3psm ) A suggestion: If you don't already have any, buy a stuffed animal or two. Place them in chairs in various places around your house, and photograph them with a flash. Try it with the flash aiming at different parts of the room. Make a diffuser out of an old plastic jug that'll work like a fongdong. It won't take too much and you'll start getting a feel for where the photons go and why, and stuffed animals don't complain about holding the pose for too long. Also, if Lee Ann show up for a photo shoot not only will you have a stand in for while you are setting up lights, having stuffed animals will show her that you have a tender sensitive side that doesn't come through with your brusk bartender persona at work. Note also, that you could do about the same practice with a couple of clamp lights and a teddy bear in a relatively dark room. The trick comes from balancing flash with ambient lighting, a little amber gel over the flash goes a long way to helping with that. Also remember when mixing the two, aperture controls how much light you get from the flash, shutter speed controls how much light you get from ambient. -- l...@red4est.com via squirrelmail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for all the advice, Bruce. I have to admit that a good part of the resistance I have to taking up flash photography is pure laziness. Aside from the fact that I don't have an inkling as to what the photo is going to look like when I decide to use it, I do find the technical aspects of it a little intimidating. In my mind, in introduces a degree of unpredictability into the shot, and when the results are bad, I'm utterly clueless as to what I need to do to make it right. It really is an almost binary problem for me: It either worked, or it didn't work. So it's kind of an exercise in flying blind, and more often than not, hitting the mountainside. A continuous light source would be a much better option for me, simply because I have absolutely no idea what a shot using flash will look like when I trip the shutter. I guess the only way to remedy that would be to spend a lot of time shooting exclusively with flash, just to familiarize myself with it. But, know that intellectually is a different thing from putting it into practice, as my default inclination is always to try and get the shot with available light and I'm just in the habit of forgoing anything that would require flash. In fact, it's almost as though shots that require flash don't even register with me. That is, unless the subject itself is so compelling (like LeeAnn's figure, for example) that I want to get a shot of it even if it means I'm going to have to use the pop-up flash in order to get it. And even then, I'm going to try several times to see if I can get it without using flash. What I really need is to take a course in practical flash photography with a very rudimentary focus on the science and technical aspects -- just enough to lend a little predictability. As it stands, the only thing I can predict when using flash is that the flash will go off. If I can just learn the very basics of herding photons, I'd be a lot more comfortable using it. As it is, I'm completely mystified by it and wonder how anyone ever manages to get predictable results -- especially when using multiple remote flash units. (E.g., http://is.gd/7z3psm ) But, I am surprised at how cheap the LED panels and other continuous light sources are. If I start getting more models willing to pose for me, I'll certainly look into that. Thanks again! -- Walt On 2/11/2013 5:58 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Walt, points to consider: Like shooting from a tripod, adding in some artificial light can force you to slow down and consider your shots -- not actually a bad thing. Flash is not the only way to get extra light onto human subjects. There are: light bounced from reflectors, incandescent or halogen bulbs, LED panels, fluorescents, etc. If flash is intimidating because of its transient nature, then continuous light is very easy to work with and very familiar to you. They can be used with modifiers too. Eg: I put LED panels into softboxes and umbrellas. A 160-LED panel and a lightstand will cost you $50 these days at eBay or Amazon. A little bit of extra light added to a scene can lift your image from "it's okay" to "oh wow". If your scene is lit by uniform flat light, you can get a perfectly okay shot. But your eyes are drawn to lighter areas or more contrasty areas, so if you take that flat shot and light your subject's face by a half stop or more, you'll see how much better it can become. Light becomes a part of the composition that you get to control. In the past I considered flash to be either unnecessary, too complex, too expensive, or just annoying -- until I actually tried it, first with one hotshoe flash then two and three. The very first time I tried working in a studio, despite stumbling around like a complete noob, I absolutely loved it. I took to it right away and saw how it opened up a world of new possibilities. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Walt wrote: Thank you, Ann. :) One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in shooting when flash is required. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out
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That's a shame. I purchased all three of my 285HVs second hand and they're all the old made-by-Vivitar version. I still keep a look-out for older 285HVs whenever I wander into camera shops. From: Bruce Walker Beware of the new reissue 285HV's though: Vivitar in name only, apparently. http://strobist.blogspot.ca/2007/02/return-of-classic.html Check out the Yongnuo flashes instead. A YN-460 is $78 at Amazon. The YN-560 II is $130 and is equiv to a Pentax AF-540 (a photon bomb) or Nikon SB800 for power. All manual-only, like the 285HV. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Look for a Vivitar 285HV. New ones are about $90 from B&H and the trigger voltage is low enough they're even safe to use on a (you should pardon the expression) Canon DSLR hotshoe. It's pretty easy to figure out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think she's much prettier than Julia Roberts even when she was young. On 2/11/2013 9:20 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That's an excellent photo. She has a "young Julia Roberts" look about her. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: February 11, 2013 2/11/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's an excellent photo. She has a "young Julia Roberts" look about her. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: February 11, 2013 2/11/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Beware of the new reissue 285HV's though: Vivitar in name only, apparently. http://strobist.blogspot.ca/2007/02/return-of-classic.html Check out the Yongnuo flashes instead. A YN-460 is $78 at Amazon. The YN-560 II is $130 and is equiv to a Pentax AF-540 (a photon bomb) or Nikon SB800 for power. All manual-only, like the 285HV. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > Look for a Vivitar 285HV. New ones are about $90 from B&H and the trigger > voltage is low enough they're even safe to use on a (you should pardon the > expression) Canon DSLR hotshoe. > > It's pretty easy to figure out. > > From: Ann Sanfedele > >> On 2/11/2013 15:58, Walt wrote: >>> >>> Thank you, Ann. :) >>> >>> One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a >>> hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. >> >> >> I got one mainly to use as bounce flash and really only for photoing >> stuff for ebay. >>> >>> >>> It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've >>> always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest >>> in shooting when flash is required. >>> >>> -- Walt >> >> I don't lose interest in the subject, I just get annoyed I don't yet >> >> have a camera with higher ISO :-) >> >> ann >> >> >>> >>> On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: > > So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked > her > about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in > some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing > the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. > > I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. > Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the > results: > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ > K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 > > I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out > remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. > > I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). > > -- Walt > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> Thank you, Ann. :) > > One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a > hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. You don't need to invest a lot to get a strobe well worth learning with. I'd suggest a dumb manual strobe. You can find them used for under $50. You can pick up a cheap radio trigger pair for $20, or a hongkong strobe extension cable for about the same. ephotoinc has a strobe that screws into a lightbulb socket and will trigger with either a PC cable or optically for about $20. I think you'd be better off with a dumb speedlight with adjustable power, and ideally, optical trigger, though you can buy optical triggers for about $10. > > It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've > always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest > in shooting when flash is required. I was very much in that frame of mind. There was so much to learn that it was daunting. I eventually picked up the strobist dvd set (with some friends to share the cost) and he made a good point, that it was the difference between taking a photo and making a photo. I've lost track of the number of times that I've recommended light, science & magic, probably a few of them to you. That'll help with either ambient or artificial light. It will also help you understand the difference between how a diffuser works and a fongdong (or a light grenade as I call them, because they throw photons everywhere). The problems with using a flash are that they can be really obnoxious/distracting and if you don't know what you're doing you are almost more likely to ruin a shot than get it right. Heretofore there are a whole bunch of shots that were just impossible to get without a flash. With a K-5 and occasionally being able to get shots with ISOs up to 25,600, that set has gotten orders of magnitude smaller than in the film era. I have found, however, that when I do manage to use a flash properly, often just as supplemental lighting, it can improve the photos I get tremendously. The most important thing that I've learned is to not put light any place that I don't want it to be. A simple snoot on a speedlight, that just puts the light on a musician on stage, and doesn't illuminate the crap in the background can really help. Particularly if you can balance the light on the musician with the light of the neon signs or suchlike. In other words, flash doesn't have to stupid expensive, and learning how to use it can make a huge difference in your photos. It'll also help you learn how to use available light better. -- l...@red4est.com via squirrelmail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Look for a Vivitar 285HV. New ones are about $90 from B&H and the trigger voltage is low enough they're even safe to use on a (you should pardon the expression) Canon DSLR hotshoe. It's pretty easy to figure out. From: Ann Sanfedele On 2/11/2013 15:58, Walt wrote: Thank you, Ann. :) One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. I got one mainly to use as bounce flash and really only for photoing stuff for ebay. It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in shooting when flash is required. -- Walt I don't lose interest in the subject, I just get annoyed I don't yet have a camera with higher ISO :-) ann On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Walt, points to consider: Like shooting from a tripod, adding in some artificial light can force you to slow down and consider your shots -- not actually a bad thing. Flash is not the only way to get extra light onto human subjects. There are: light bounced from reflectors, incandescent or halogen bulbs, LED panels, fluorescents, etc. If flash is intimidating because of its transient nature, then continuous light is very easy to work with and very familiar to you. They can be used with modifiers too. Eg: I put LED panels into softboxes and umbrellas. A 160-LED panel and a lightstand will cost you $50 these days at eBay or Amazon. A little bit of extra light added to a scene can lift your image from "it's okay" to "oh wow". If your scene is lit by uniform flat light, you can get a perfectly okay shot. But your eyes are drawn to lighter areas or more contrasty areas, so if you take that flat shot and light your subject's face by a half stop or more, you'll see how much better it can become. Light becomes a part of the composition that you get to control. In the past I considered flash to be either unnecessary, too complex, too expensive, or just annoying -- until I actually tried it, first with one hotshoe flash then two and three. The very first time I tried working in a studio, despite stumbling around like a complete noob, I absolutely loved it. I took to it right away and saw how it opened up a world of new possibilities. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Walt wrote: > Thank you, Ann. :) > > One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard > time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. > > It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always > preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in > shooting when flash is required. > > -- Walt > > > On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: >> >> The flash shot looks fine... >> >> steady on, Walt :-) >> ann >> >> >> On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: >>> >>> So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her >>> about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in >>> some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing >>> the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. >>> >>> I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. >>> Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the >>> results: >>> >>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ >>> K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 >>> >>> I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out >>> remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. >>> >>> I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). >>> >>> -- Walt >>> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/11/2013 15:58, Walt wrote: Thank you, Ann. :) One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. I got one mainly to use as bounce flash and really only for photoing stuff for ebay. It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in shooting when flash is required. -- Walt I don't lose interest in the subject, I just get annoyed I don't yet have a camera with higher ISO :-) ann On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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She can flash me any time she wants. I think that smile could light up the room, even without the assistance of a strobe. I haven't had a chance to talk to her much just yet, as she's been coming in during the busiest parts of my nights lately. But, from what I can tell, she's a lot of fun. And I'm pretty sure that vertical smile could light up a room, too! I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). Just a shot in the dark? Heh. If I get a shot with her in the dark, I'll likely be putting the camera down. -- Larry colen...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Ann. :) One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in shooting when flash is required. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Dave. I'm always skeptical about using flash, as I've gotten so used to shooting in available light and just don't know enough about flash photography to feel comfortable trying it. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 8:47 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I thionk this works well Dave On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Paul! I may ask her that the next time I see her -- likely tonight. And I'll buy her a drink or five. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 6:43 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Very nice, Walt. Reminds me of the following conversation... He - after noticing how tight her clothing is..."How does one get into a pair of jeans like that?" She - "We'll, you can start by buying me a drink." -p Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:59 AM, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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She can flash me any time she wants. I think that smile could light up the room, even without the assistance of a strobe. I haven't had a chance to talk to her much just yet, as she's been coming in during the busiest parts of my nights lately. But, from what I can tell, she's a lot of fun. And I'm pretty sure that vertical smile could light up a room, too! I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). Just a shot in the dark? Heh. If I get a shot with her in the dark, I'll likely be putting the camera down. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I thionk this works well Dave On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Walt wrote: > So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her > about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some > motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last > photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. > > I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. > Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ > K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 > > I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out > remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. > > I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very nice, Walt. Reminds me of the following conversation... He - after noticing how tight her clothing is..."How does one get into a pair of jeans like that?" She - "We'll, you can start by buying me a drink." -p Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:59 AM, Walt wrote: > So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her > about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some > motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last > photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. > > I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. > Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ > K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 > > I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out > remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. > > I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 11, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Walt wrote: > So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her > about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some > motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last > photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. > > I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. > Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ > K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 She can flash me any time she wants. I think that smile could light up the room, even without the assistance of a strobe. > > I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out > remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. > > I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). Just a shot in the dark? > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A ~very~ sexy photo, Walt!! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt Sent: February 9, 2013 2/9/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO: LeeAnn Thank you, Christine! -- Walt On 2/9/2013 9:31 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: > Lovely! Cheers, Christine > > > On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Walt wrote: > >> I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over >> the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her >> to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and >> the pool room. >> >> It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. >> >> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ >> K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 >> >> I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) >> >> -- Walt >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Christine! -- Walt On 2/9/2013 9:31 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Lovely! Cheers, Christine On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Walt wrote: I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/7/2013 9:46 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2013-02-04 14:15 Walt wrote It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 fascinating picture - yes, she's attractive, and her pose is surprisingly candid and open, but the composition and lighting really work; it's a picture of a moment at your bar Thanks, Steve! It's strange how the presence of a camera has a way of creating moments that wouldn't otherwise be noteworthy. It's one of the few instances I've ever experienced where the subject didn't completely ruin the moment upon discovering she was having her photo taken. She actually just rolled with it. Most of the time, they completely alter the shot by "posing" with a huge, toothy smile and some manner of gesticulation. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Lovely! Cheers, Christine On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Walt wrote: > I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the > weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to > notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the > pool room. > > It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ > K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 > > I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2013-02-04 14:15 Walt wrote It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 fascinating picture - yes, she's attractive, and her pose is surprisingly candid and open, but the composition and lighting really work; it's a picture of a moment at your bar -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:06 AM, Walt wrote: > On 2/6/2013 2:29 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >> If nothing else, while on the back of a Harley. > Good idea with a good possibility of happening. I have a cousin who's been > pestering me to shoot his Harley. > >> No, for me to*really* like it, she should be some place that*I* can >> photograph her. >> >> And no, she wouldn't need to be wearing leather, or anything else for that >> matter. > Maybe some paint. A smile would be enough for me. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/6/2013 2:29 AM, Larry Colen wrote: If nothing else, while on the back of a Harley. Good idea with a good possibility of happening. I have a cousin who's been pestering me to shoot his Harley. No, for me to*really* like it, she should be some place that*I* can photograph her. And no, she wouldn't need to be wearing leather, or anything else for that matter. Maybe some paint. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 5, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Walt wrote: > From what I can tell about her so far, that's not outside the realms of > possibility. If nothing else, while on the back of a Harley. > > -- Walt > > On 2/5/2013 3:58 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: >> For Larry to be really like it she should be wearing leather... No, for me to *really* like it, she should be some place that *I* can photograph her. And no, she wouldn't need to be wearing leather, or anything else for that matter. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From what I can tell about her so far, that's not outside the realms of possibility. -- Walt On 2/5/2013 3:58 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: For Larry to be really like it she should be wearing leather... On 2/4/2013 4:15 PM, Walt wrote: I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I actually gave her my card that night (I keep a stack at work at all times), and she saw the photo when she came back in on Monday night, when I showed it to her on Flickr. She quite liked it. ;) -- Walt On 2/5/2013 2:04 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Very nice shot Walt! Make a good 8x10 and give it to her, tape your photog business card to the back, let her know you are looking for models and business opportunities . . . This could be a good stepping stone. stan On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Walt wrote: I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/5/2013 2:26 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 5/2/13, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Very nice shot Walt! Make a good 8x10 and give it to her, tape your photog business card to the back, let her know you are looking for models and business opportunities . . . Sod that. Could be some good cardio-vascular opps ;-) Heh! Believe it or not, that occurred to me just before I took the photo. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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For Larry to be really like it she should be wearing leather... On 2/4/2013 4:15 PM, Walt wrote: I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/2/13, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: >Very nice shot Walt! Make a good 8x10 and give it to her, tape your >photog business card to the back, let her know you are looking for >models and business opportunities . . . Sod that. Could be some good cardio-vascular opps ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very nice shot Walt! Make a good 8x10 and give it to her, tape your photog business card to the back, let her know you are looking for models and business opportunities . . . This could be a good stepping stone. stan On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Walt wrote: > I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the > weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to > notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the > pool room. > > It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ > K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 > > I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Dan! -- Walt On 2/5/2013 10:44 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Interesting and unusual portrait, well captured. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Walt wrote: I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Interesting and unusual portrait, well captured. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Walt wrote: > I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over > the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her > to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and > the pool room. > > It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ > K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 > > I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Dave! I have to say I was pretty pleased when I pulled that shot up. It struck me right off as a keeper. -- Walt On 2/5/2013 4:09 AM, David Savage wrote: Mate, don't sweat the sharpness. That shot is full of awesome! Great work. Cheers, Dave On 5 February 2013 05:15, Walt wrote: I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/5/2013 4:07 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 4/2/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 That's great! Thanks again! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mate, don't sweat the sharpness. That shot is full of awesome! Great work. Cheers, Dave On 5 February 2013 05:15, Walt wrote: > I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over > the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her > to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and > the pool room. > > It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ > K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 > > I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 4/2/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: >I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work >over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to >get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between >the bar and the pool room. > >It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. > >http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ >K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 That's great! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/4/2013 11:50 PM, Bill wrote: On 04/02/2013 3:15 PM, Walt wrote: I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt That's gorgeous Walt. bill Thanks, Bill! I ran into her tonight, and she was pretty happy with the photo when I showed it to her on my Flickr page. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 04/02/2013 3:15 PM, Walt wrote: I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt That's gorgeous Walt. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Jack. B&W has just about become my default preference when photographing people. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't; but I invariably try at least one b&w rendering on photos with human subjects. -- Walt On 2/4/2013 4:02 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Nice strut. Well timed and rendered, Walt. Like the B&W. Jack - Original Message - From: Walt To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 1:15 PM Subject: PESO: LeeAnn I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice strut. Well timed and rendered, Walt. Like the B&W. Jack - Original Message - From: Walt To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 1:15 PM Subject: PESO: LeeAnn I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Bruce! She was fairly inebriated that night, but at one point, she told me she LOVED having her picture taken. So, there may be an opportunity there. -- Walt On 2/4/2013 3:22 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: I like it too, Walt. :-) On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Walt wrote: I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like it too, Walt. :-) On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Walt wrote: > I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over > the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her > to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and > the pool room. > > It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ > K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 > > I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and the pool room. It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800 I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
