Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread Thibouille
http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/Pentax%20Lens%20Tests/370-pentax-smc-da-200mm-f28-ed-if-sdm

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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread Carlos Royo
Roman Melihhov escribió:
 http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/Pentax%20Lens%20Tests/370-pentax-smc-da-200mm-f28-ed-if-sdm
 
 ^^^ CA is awful. For the lense I'd use for nature photography seeing 
 purple fringe around tree branches is a big NO.
 

AFAIK, that's not CA, it is purple fringing. Perhaps it has more to do 
with the sensor than with the lens.

Carlos

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re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/Pentax%20Lens%20Tests/370-pentax-smc-da-200mm-f28-ed-if-sdm

^^^ CA is awful. For the lense I'd use for nature photography seeing 
purple fringe around tree branches is a big NO.

Just my 2¢

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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
The lens shows great resolution and bokeh. In regard to the fringing,  
I'd like to see it compared to a lens that was designed for the  
smaller image circle, perhaps even the DA 50-200. While I haven't  
found a long lens that doesn't produce some fringe, it does seem to  
vary. I've noticed my A 400/5.6 is more prone to fringing than my DA  
50-200. Perhaps because it's longer? I don't know. However, I think  
I'm going to want this lens. If you look at the full hi-res version  
of the shot they used as an example for the fringing, it's somewhat  
minimal and easy to fix with a selection and a color switch.
Paul
On Feb 17, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Carlos Royo wrote:

 Roman Melihhov escribió:
 http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/Pentax%20Lens%20Tests/370-pentax- 
 smc-da-200mm-f28-ed-if-sdm

 ^^^ CA is awful. For the lense I'd use for nature photography seeing
 purple fringe around tree branches is a big NO.


 AFAIK, that's not CA, it is purple fringing. Perhaps it has more to do
 with the sensor than with the lens.

 Carlos

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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have yet to find a lens that won't produce purple fringe when tree  
branches are shot against a white sky. I think it's a sensor thing.
Paul
On Feb 17, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Carlos Royo wrote:

 Roman Melihhov escribió:
 http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/Pentax%20Lens%20Tests/370-pentax- 
 smc-da-200mm-f28-ed-if-sdm

 ^^^ CA is awful. For the lense I'd use for nature photography seeing
 purple fringe around tree branches is a big NO.


 AFAIK, that's not CA, it is purple fringing. Perhaps it has more to do
 with the sensor than with the lens.

 Carlos

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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8


The lens shows great resolution and bokeh. In regard to the fringing,
I'd like to see it compared to a lens that was designed for the
smaller image circle, perhaps even the DA 50-200. While I haven't
found a long lens that doesn't produce some fringe, it does seem to
vary. I've noticed my A 400/5.6 is more prone to fringing than my DA
50-200. Perhaps because it's longer? I don't know. However, I think
I'm going to want this lens. If you look at the full hi-res version
of the shot they used as an example for the fringing, it's somewhat
minimal and easy to fix with a selection and a color switch.

Thats a pretty extreme torture test of the system, not just the lens. It's not 
something one is 
likely to run into every picture. That sky is completely blown out, amd the 
branches are out of 
range as well.
It looks good overall, though how it compares to 200/2.8 lenses from the other 
guys, I haven't a 
clue.
That it is a full frame lens bodes well for those who dream in technicolour.

William Robb 


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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread Peter Fairweather
Interesting to see whether the DA*300 is better. As I'm thinking of
selling my FA300mm, I have a perverse interest in a poor review from
Klaus!!

Incidentally how many people use a telephoto for the pupose of
photographing tree branches against the sky. Secondly what do they
photograph instead when the leaves are out?

Peter

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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Fairweather 
Subject: Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8



 Incidentally how many people use a telephoto for the pupose of
 photographing tree branches against the sky. Secondly what do they
 photograph instead when the leaves are out?

What with the PDML and all keeping me busy, I don't take pictures any more.

William Robb

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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread Thibouille
What isnt't clear at all to me is if it is compatible with traditional
AF or only with SDM.

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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Since it appears to be a contrast thing, I would expect that a lens that 
manages to keep more contrast will have more fringing.  I'm not saying 
that's a good thing but the lens capable of  transmitting the higher 
contrast will appear sharper with certain subjects while the opposite 
will give less fringing in hight contrast situations.   Now my optical 
analysis could be all wet.  I only have anecdotal data...


Paul Stenquist wrote:
 The lens shows great resolution and bokeh. In regard to the fringing,  
 I'd like to see it compared to a lens that was designed for the  
 smaller image circle, perhaps even the DA 50-200. While I haven't  
 found a long lens that doesn't produce some fringe, it does seem to  
 vary. I've noticed my A 400/5.6 is more prone to fringing than my DA  
 50-200. Perhaps because it's longer? I don't know. However, I think  
 I'm going to want this lens. If you look at the full hi-res version  
 of the shot they used as an example for the fringing, it's somewhat  
 minimal and easy to fix with a selection and a color switch.
 Paul
 On Feb 17, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Carlos Royo wrote:

   
 Roman Melihhov escribió:
 
 http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/Pentax%20Lens%20Tests/370-pentax- 
 smc-da-200mm-f28-ed-if-sdm

 ^^^ CA is awful. For the lense I'd use for nature photography seeing
 purple fringe around tree branches is a big NO.

   
 AFAIK, that's not CA, it is purple fringing. Perhaps it has more to do
 with the sensor than with the lens.

 Carlos

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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread Mark Roberts
I notice that the Rending of Garments has already begun on the DP Review 
  Pentax forum...


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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread P. J. Alling
I take what Klaus says with a bolder of salt.  His reviews of lenses I 
have are often at odds with my experience.  He worships at the alter of 
newness while disparaging the old.  The FA 20-35mm f4 is a case in point 
his conclusions dismiss it due to it's old design and lack of zoom 
range.  He finds the SMC Pentax 135 f 2.5 to unworthy because it's not a 
new design, though by his own tests it gives superior results if you use 
it properly.  He even occasionally misidentifies sensor bloom as CA.  
True, he's better than Ken Rockwell but then who isn't?

Peter Fairweather wrote:
 Interesting to see whether the DA*300 is better. As I'm thinking of
 selling my FA300mm, I have a perverse interest in a poor review from
 Klaus!!

 Incidentally how many people use a telephoto for the pupose of
 photographing tree branches against the sky. Secondly what do they
 photograph instead when the leaves are out?

 Peter

   


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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread P. J. Alling
He probably couldn't test that since his K10D was upgraded.  For Klaus 
yesterday is dead there's only today and tomorrow...

Thibouille wrote:
 What isnt't clear at all to me is if it is compatible with traditional
 AF or only with SDM.

   


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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread Thibouille
Well I asked him and got the answer:
yes the traditional AF is still there and functional as confirmed by
Pentax Germany.

So we know... usable on a MZ-S/Z1-P :)
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Re: Photozone test of the DA*200/2.8

2008-02-17 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 08:55:16PM +0100, Thibouille wrote:
 Well I asked him and got the answer:
 yes the traditional AF is still there and functional as confirmed by
 Pentax Germany.
 
 So we know... usable on a MZ-S/Z1-P :)
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